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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, it's the golf show on the ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Back in twenty nineteen, we made some major rule changes
to the rules of golf. One of those was that
golfers could leave the flagstick in when they put used
to be either had to take it out or have
it tended if you were on the green. If you
were barely off the green, you could leave it in.
I have never been one, and there was a time
for about two months that we thought that touching the
(00:26):
flagstick would give you COVID. I don't know why we
thought that, but we did, and so we had to
play with the flagstick in and I probably had fifty
seven parts around because it was just a mental block.
I don't want that flagstick anywhere near me if I
can see the hole, and I actually want people to
tend the flag if I can't see it, because I
want that hole to be as big as it possibly
(00:47):
can be.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
But we do have some golfers.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We're watching Charlie Hall here in the AIG Women's Open
and Matt Fitzpatrick is another example. They want it in
all the time. Yeah, how do you teach in or out?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, I think it it goes down to what you
were saying, but the ones that have it in like
the idea because they see the break better, they won't
see their eyes won't gander over to the left. So
like if you're let's say you're putting and you're gonna
put the right edge and the flags in the one
(01:24):
of the most important things is is keeping your eyes
on your target, not the end result, which is the
middle of the hole. And with the flag in the hole,
this is what the sich is. It makes it you
see that little piece, your eyes will stay over there.
And because you know the flag is basically cutting the
hole in half or whatever. But I tried it, I
(01:49):
feel like it's gonna ricochet off.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I feel like that's much smaller.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's just going to bounce right off the flagstick. So
I don't do it. But what I hear is the
ones that do, they claim they see the break better.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I was watching I think it was two years ago
at Hilton Head Matt Fitzpatrick was in a playoff.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I remember who. I think Speeth may have.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Been in the playoffs a couple others and Dottie Pepper
was talking about Fitzpatrick leaving it in even on like
four footers and Ian Baker Finch said something along the
lines of Dottie, are you a flag flagstick in or
flag stick out person?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And she said out every time, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And I'm like, I'm in the same boat right here,
So yeah, I do not want I want that flag stick.
And if I think I can make the chip flagstick out,
get it out of there. It's in the way, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Again.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Go back to Michael Bred for a second. He was
doing a segment and I think it was with Nelly
Kuorda and they were it was him and and Tiger
I mean it was Nelly Corda and Tiger Woods and
they were doing Tiger was asking Nelly how she drives
the golf ball and what her normal drive is and
what her cutshot looks like and what is her save
(03:06):
shot to get in the fairway. And she probably hit
four or five drivers in this video that I was watching,
and they had the track man numbers and I'm looking
at it, and her ball speed was like one forty
seven with the driver, and I think she got it
up to one fifty.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Two at the max.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And her carry distance was like depending on what shot
she was hitting and how high or low she was
hitting it was somewhere between two forty and two fifty two,
and I have saved from the last time that I
got fit. It's about a year or two ago for
the driver and they're the same numbers as me and
Mark and Kirk. When they do this show with Us
(03:48):
and Keith now over KM at MK Golf, they talk
about male amateur golfers, especially those over they say forty five.
If you will think about your numbers in terms of
what the top players on the LPGA Tour do and
get out of your mind that you're going to hit
it three twenty like Roy does, that you're going to
be a more consistent golfer. And it's an eerie how
(04:12):
you look at the averages of LPGA Tour golfers and
they tend to be similar to guys in their forties,
fifties and maybe even early sixties.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And in their twenties and thirties. True, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Think that except for the big the start, they're really
good players.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, so I think the when you look at the numbers,
and I did a deal for the Texas Coaches Convention
two weeks ago on track man numbers and what are
they really and when you see those numbers, Those numbers
aren't driving range numbers. Those numbers are play numbers, all right.
(04:48):
Like the PGA tours to eighty six in the air,
all right, So if that's true, if it's two eighty
six in year, all right, and you see the ball
bouncing in another thirty forty fifty yards because PGA Tour
plays on very firm fairways. So you know, I when
you look at the women that play the game, especially
(05:10):
the ones that can really hit it like a Charlie
Hall or somebody. The average amateur men amateur that's forty over,
you might not get a pastor so in really reality
because you remember what was your smash factor?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, they're going to hit the ball in the center
of the club a lot more than you are.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
The smash factor is probably what I heard from Mark
one time was like, smash factor is the most important
thing here. I want to see. If you're a driver
one four nine one four eight one five zero, the
tour players are can be in that one five zero,
I believe with the driver.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, they're going to be one four nine five zero
almost every time because they hit them in the center.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
We're not that amateur players can be like one three eight,
one four four, it's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
They're playing the Women's Open Championship over in Wales. And
a little while ago we were watching the leader, Mea Yamashita,
warm up and she's in the league at eleven under,
and you were watching her swing and you said, man,
that's an awesome golf swing.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That was really good. It was really really good. See
it was like on playing club face dead square to
the plane. The fall through was dead on, I mean across.
It's just like, she looks good and that was a
really good, really good move.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, and I think you've you've experienced that when you
were when you took the junior golfers out to the
La Costa a few years ago. How fundamentally sound a
lot of the Asian golfers are.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, they're very fundamentally sound. There's no like, your grip
is your grip, figure out a swing to go around
that grip. All right, it doesn't work that way. And
it's like nowadays you can't do that and get away
with it if you're gonna have longevity. So it's like
the Asians kind of try to perfect, all right, the movement.
(07:05):
But I'll tell you what it was. It was really
really good.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So all right, let's we when when when we talk
about putting, what are some of the big tips that
you give golfers to be better putters? And the one
thing that I look at is grip pressure and how
sometimes when we get nervous or we get into a
tough situation, you tend to grip the golf club a
little bit tighter. And talk about grip pressure in terms
(07:31):
of putting, and what there are some of the tips
that you give to make average are are terrible putters better?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think the grip pressure nowadays you don't have to
worry about it as much as we used to when
we were younger, because now you have these grips that
are put on there right that that are bigger, softer,
so you're like you barely even you don't even know it,
and you're holding on to a very soft We're playing
(07:58):
around with that the other day and it's just like, wow,
I'm very holding on to it, and I thought I
was squeezing it. So the new grips that you can
put on there, you know, like the ones that like
I think it was called stroke super stroke, superstroke. Yeah,
those are great, you know, you can barely hold on
to it. They got different sizes.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, you used to have those little tiny grips like
tigers always pile with, and that would gets a lot,
You get a lot of wrist action.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And you squeeze it and you squeeze it. Yeah. Yeah,
So you see now that even at that, the superstroke
has a smaller grip, but it's still soft, right right,
it's not real hard. So if your grip, even if
you have a superstroke grip, if it's getting worn out,
it's getting firm, and you're gonna squeeze it. My most
there's two there's two tips. One extremely important. Every great
(08:49):
putter has done this. Your eye sockets straight down, not eyeballs,
but the sockets. You'll see Nicholas Tiger Cringshaw, Well, their
chin is into their neck and their eye sockets are
straight down. That way, when you rotate your head to
see your target, the putter will get online. And number
(09:11):
two is the great putters are two to one or
three to one ratio. When we're growing up, we thought
it was like one inch back four inches through as
an acceleration. Now we know it's the other way around.
It's two inches back one inch through or three inches
back one inch through. That's comes from Faxon. That comes
(09:32):
from Stricker. Who believe me, when you watch Stricker putt,
just give it to him if he's out inside of
fifteen feet.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Branda Shamblie made a comment the other day that's that's
what made Roy better the last couple of years is
working with Faxon.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So yeah, he went from one to fifty six and
strokes gating putting to fifth.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And take a look at his stroke. Take a look.
When he's not putting well, his eye sockets are up
and when he's putting good they're down. And stroke, if
you look at it, it's longer back, shorter through. All right.
You know, if I'm six inches back, I'm three to
four inches through. There's a huge difference on that acceleration.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
All right, one more segment to go. We'll get to
that next. It's the Golf show on the ticket
All right, it's the golf show on the ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Back in twenty nineteen, we made some major rule changes
to the rules of golf. One of those was that
golfers could leave the flagstick in when they put used
to be either had to take it out or have
it tended if you were on the green. If you
were barely off the green, you could leave it in.
I have never been one, and there was a time
for about two months that we thought that touching the
(00:26):
flagstick would give you COVID. I don't know why we
thought that, but we did, and so we had to
play with the flagstick in and I probably had fifty
seven parts around because it was just a mental block.
I don't want that flagstick anywhere near me if I
can see the hole, and I actually want people to
tend the flag if I can't see it, because I
want that hole to be as big as it possibly
(00:47):
can be.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
But we do have some golfers.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We're watching Charlie Hall here in the AIG Women's Open
and Matt Fitzpatrick is another example. They want it in
all the time. Yeah, how do you teach in or out?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, I think it it goes down to what you
were saying, but the ones that have it in like
the idea because they see the break better, they won't
see their eyes won't gander over to the left. So
like if you're let's say you're putting and you're gonna
put the right edge and the flags in the one
(01:24):
of the most important things is is keeping your eyes
on your target, not the end result, which is the
middle of the hole. And with the flag in the hole,
this is what the sich is. It makes it you
see that little piece, your eyes will stay over there.
And because you know the flag is basically cutting the
hole in half or whatever. But I tried it, I
(01:49):
feel like it's gonna ricochet off.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I feel like that's much smaller.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's just going to bounce right off the flagstick. So
I don't do it. But what I hear is the
ones that do, they claim they see the break better.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I was watching I think it was two years ago
at Hilton Head Matt Fitzpatrick was in a playoff.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I remember who. I think Speeth may have.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Been in the playoffs a couple others and Dottie Pepper
was talking about Fitzpatrick leaving it in even on like
four footers and Ian Baker Finch said something along the
lines of Dottie, are you a flag flagstick in or
flag stick out person?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And she said out every time, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And I'm like, I'm in the same boat right here,
So yeah, I do not want I want that flag stick.
And if I think I can make the chip flagstick out,
get it out of there. It's in the way, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Again.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Go back to Michael Bred for a second. He was
doing a segment and I think it was with Nelly
Kuorda and they were it was him and and Tiger
I mean it was Nelly Corda and Tiger Woods and
they were doing Tiger was asking Nelly how she drives
the golf ball and what her normal drive is and
what her cutshot looks like and what is her save
(03:06):
shot to get in the fairway. And she probably hit
four or five drivers in this video that I was watching,
and they had the track man numbers and I'm looking
at it, and her ball speed was like one forty
seven with the driver, and I think she got it
up to one fifty.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Two at the max.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And her carry distance was like depending on what shot
she was hitting and how high or low she was
hitting it was somewhere between two forty and two fifty two,
and I have saved from the last time that I
got fit. It's about a year or two ago for
the driver and they're the same numbers as me and
Mark and Kirk. When they do this show with Us
(03:48):
and Keith now over KM at MK Golf, they talk
about male amateur golfers, especially those over they say forty five.
If you will think about your numbers in terms of
what the top players on the LPGA Tour do and
get out of your mind that you're going to hit
it three twenty like Roy does, that you're going to
be a more consistent golfer. And it's an eerie how
(04:12):
you look at the averages of LPGA Tour golfers and
they tend to be similar to guys in their forties,
fifties and maybe even early sixties.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And in their twenties and thirties. True, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Think that except for the big the start, they're really
good players.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, so I think the when you look at the numbers,
and I did a deal for the Texas Coaches Convention
two weeks ago on track man numbers and what are
they really and when you see those numbers, Those numbers
aren't driving range numbers. Those numbers are play numbers, all right.
(04:48):
Like the PGA tours to eighty six in the air,
all right, So if that's true, if it's two eighty
six in year, all right, and you see the ball
bouncing in another thirty forty fifty yards because PGA Tour
plays on very firm fairways. So you know, I when
you look at the women that play the game, especially
(05:10):
the ones that can really hit it like a Charlie
Hall or somebody. The average amateur men amateur that's forty over,
you might not get a pastor so in really reality
because you remember what was your smash factor?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, they're going to hit the ball in the center
of the club a lot more than you are.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
The smash factor is probably what I heard from Mark
one time was like, smash factor is the most important
thing here. I want to see. If you're a driver
one four nine one four eight one five zero, the
tour players are can be in that one five zero,
I believe with the driver.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, they're going to be one four nine five zero
almost every time because they hit them in the center.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
We're not that amateur players can be like one three eight,
one four four, it's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
They're playing the Women's Open Championship over in Wales. And
a little while ago we were watching the leader, Mea Yamashita,
warm up and she's in the league at eleven under,
and you were watching her swing and you said, man,
that's an awesome golf swing.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That was really good. It was really really good. See
it was like on playing club face dead square to
the plane. The fall through was dead on, I mean across.
It's just like, she looks good and that was a
really good, really good move.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, and I think you've you've experienced that when you
were when you took the junior golfers out to the
La Costa a few years ago. How fundamentally sound a
lot of the Asian golfers are.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, they're very fundamentally sound. There's no like, your grip
is your grip, figure out a swing to go around
that grip. All right, it doesn't work that way. And
it's like nowadays you can't do that and get away
with it if you're gonna have longevity. So it's like
the Asians kind of try to perfect, all right, the movement.
(07:05):
But I'll tell you what it was. It was really
really good.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So all right, let's we when when when we talk
about putting, what are some of the big tips that
you give golfers to be better putters? And the one
thing that I look at is grip pressure and how
sometimes when we get nervous or we get into a
tough situation, you tend to grip the golf club a
little bit tighter. And talk about grip pressure in terms
(07:31):
of putting, and what there are some of the tips
that you give to make average are are terrible putters better?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think the grip pressure nowadays you don't have to
worry about it as much as we used to when
we were younger, because now you have these grips that
are put on there right that that are bigger, softer,
so you're like you barely even you don't even know it,
and you're holding on to a very soft We're playing
(07:58):
around with that the other day and it's just like, wow,
I'm very holding on to it, and I thought I
was squeezing it. So the new grips that you can
put on there, you know, like the ones that like
I think it was called stroke super stroke, superstroke. Yeah,
those are great, you know, you can barely hold on
to it. They got different sizes.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, you used to have those little tiny grips like
tigers always pile with, and that would gets a lot,
You get a lot of wrist action.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And you squeeze it and you squeeze it. Yeah. Yeah,
So you see now that even at that, the superstroke
has a smaller grip, but it's still soft, right right,
it's not real hard. So if your grip, even if
you have a superstroke grip, if it's getting worn out,
it's getting firm, and you're gonna squeeze it. My most
there's two there's two tips. One extremely important. Every great
(08:49):
putter has done this. Your eye sockets straight down, not eyeballs,
but the sockets. You'll see Nicholas Tiger Cringshaw, Well, their
chin is into their neck and their eye sockets are
straight down. That way, when you rotate your head to
see your target, the putter will get online. And number
(09:11):
two is the great putters are two to one or
three to one ratio. When we're growing up, we thought
it was like one inch back four inches through as
an acceleration. Now we know it's the other way around.
It's two inches back one inch through or three inches
back one inch through. That's comes from Faxon. That comes
(09:32):
from Stricker. Who believe me, when you watch Stricker putt,
just give it to him if he's out inside of
fifteen feet.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Branda Shamblie made a comment the other day that's that's
what made Roy better the last couple of years is
working with Faxon.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So yeah, he went from one to fifty six and
strokes gating putting to fifth.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And take a look at his stroke. Take a look.
When he's not putting well, his eye sockets are up
and when he's putting good they're down. And stroke, if
you look at it, it's longer back, shorter through. All right.
You know, if I'm six inches back, I'm three to
four inches through. There's a huge difference on that acceleration.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
All right, one more segment to go. We'll get to
that next. It's the Golf show on the ticket
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