September 8, 2023 • 49 mins
Naysayers be damned! Climate change is real and is sending most of us into an emotional whirlwind. Join Dr. Imani and Meg Scoop as they discuss how climate change affects our mental health, answer listener letters, and share their pop culture diagnosis of Jocelyn from the HBO show 'The Idol.'
If you'd like to submit a listener letter, please email us at hello@imanistateofmind.com.
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Hi, everybody, Welcome between Montystate of Mind. I'm doctor d Moni
and I make scoop. Hey girl, him just glowing and just looking beautiful.
You know what. Thank you.I'm a little tired today, but
you know it's nothing that over moisturizationcannot hear it. So hi everybody,
and welcome to my shiny forehead.And if you are listening, then you
can't see it. So that's that'sfine. Okay, So what's on everybody's
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mind? What is everybody talking about? So there was something that just happened
like a couple of months ago,and I want to get your thoughts on
it. And the state of Floridathey said that I guess the Board of
Education approved that they were going tosay that slaves learned useful skills that they
could like used to help themselves,you mean, like setting themselves free and
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like revolutionize, like revolutionizing. Yeah, no, girls, you know they're
talking about sweeping so their floors couldbe clean. They're talking about cooking so
they can make food, even thoughthe food that they made wasn't for them.
That's what they are approved to teachabout slavery, So turning trash into
something edible. Let's see being raped, having their children taken away from those
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are night. Those are great skillssets. Those are wonderful skills apparently from
the state of And here's what I'msaying this, you could tell that's the
state of old people. That's alwayslike, I'm not too worried about it
because how many I'm like, y'alldon't have that many kids in Florida compared
to other states. So the fewkids out are there, Hey, guys,
get out of there. Oh man, that's sad. That's really sad.
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And like I know that. Imean, look, I was about
to say this, but as somebodywho I mean, you live in the
South, you grew up in theSouth. I grew up in the South
a bit and I lived in theSouth too. But a lot of people
will say, like, well,I don't understand how black people can live
there, And I'm like, well, I mean, should be happening out
here in California. She happens everywhere, Like Zack, people be getting killed
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and shot at and dragged around andbasically tortured anywhere you are. So it's
kind of like, I mean,although Florida is well, not all of
Florida I'm I know there are nicepeople in Florida, like my family that
lives there, but you know,it's it's just like white people just man.
I'm like, these these white peoplein Florida, like Rhonda Santists,
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are going over time into making surethat like their feelings do not get hurt.
Right, these white tears are justlike, oh my gosh, the
fragility is just yeah. And usuallyI'm like, oh, white tears,
like, you know, keep myskin soft. But I don't want those
white tears. Those white tears seemto be like toxic and caustic. Yes,
girls, yeah, and they unseasonedtwo tears supposed to be salty.
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Okay, those tears are so it'sjust you know, so I'm like,
okay, and one on one hand, I'm like, this is ridiculous.
It's stupid. Why would anyone evenwant to live in Florida if they have
children. I get it, somepeople, you know, you have to
live there, whether it's family orwork or whatever. But this is just
a reminder as a parent, likeyou need it's your responsibility to teach your
children. So unfortunately, the otherlittle white kids ain't gonna learn the correct
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but hopefully you can teach your childthe truth and then maybe they can reach
a couple of other kids. Rightthe best we can hope for it at
this point for Florida, the childrenof Florida. What's interesting is Okay,
So I was driving down the streetnot that far from here, and there
was a billboard for the Ronald ReaganLibrary out in like I don't know,
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a thousand oaks or something, andit was for they have a exhibit on
Auschwitz. And the tagline said notnot that long ago, not that far
away, And I was like,oh, yeah, like that's like Nick
Savory, Yeah, yeah, likeperson, I mean much in the sense
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that like like I mean as aslike as we keep going through like more
and more just like political weird thingsthat keep happening, Like RFK Junior had
had recently said something about that COVIDwas COVID. I guess like COVID was
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caused or was propagated by or somethingby Chinese people and Jews, and so
it's it's like and so for me, I'm kind of like, yes,
I completely understand how when it comesto uh propaganda or when it comes to
like any type of controversy like atthe like at the end of it,
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like Jews always get like blamed forit. Yeah, but I guess I'm
kind of like, wow, isthere a situation. Is there ever a
situation where like we're not gonna somehowand I mean black folks, where we
collectively are not somehow going to bejust continue to be like dehumanized. Yeah,
I don't know. It's like thecentury Olds, but I brought up
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I brought up Auschwitz also because I'mjust like, listen, like Germany paid
reparations and they put in all ofthese like laws and orders in place to
make sure things wouldn't happen again.And I'm just like, damn. All
were asking for is for like thiscountry to be like you know what,
we like, we're sorry, andwe're sorry. I know. And also
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I would really like my money bigup to California and the uh the commission,
I believe it's a commission to studyreparations. They actually did assign a
number and and it was it wasreally like it was really it was.
It was obviously done very strategically,like they really did the research. But
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they were like, if you wereborn between these years and you're alive for
this long, then each year you'vebeen alive, then you lived in California,
you're allowed this much compensation for overpolicing or for unjust incarceration. I
wonder how they like come up witha nu miracle number for that, because
I mean, obviously gonna be likea billion dollars exactly. No, they
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like they had it in they haveit in the actual report. But even
still, like I calculated mine,and granted I'm not from California, but
like I've lived here for almost twentyyears, and if if it were ratified
today, then I would get liketwo hundred and forty thousand, which isn't
bad. That's not bad, butit isn't bad. But you know,
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but do you But okay, sois it enough? No, it's not
enough, it's not, but likeit's still something. And then when I
think about that, do you reallythink they're gonna pay all these black people?
This? So the idea is great, right, interparations and to hear
like this is how much I'm old, even though clearly it's doesn't. It's
like there's where's the punitive damages forthat? Right? But you know,
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I don't I don't see it staypaying that's billions trillions. But think about
how much money we got from thepandemic that was, but that was like
eighteen hundred dollars a person. Itwasn't that much, but it was,
but it was still billion, likethey they us billion like right, but
that number is small in comparison topeople that let's say they're lifelong residence residences
of California and now you're saying itwas what two forty for you and you've
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only been here twenty years, sosomebody else beginning like five hundred k.
Well, and they also said thatpeople like the older the person is like
they would be if this were enactedtoday, they would be paid first,
right. Yeah, I just I'mlike, oh, I would love for
that to really happen. It wouldmean so much because and it's it's that's
the way to make things right,right, right, It's it's one small
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way to make things right. Butyeah, I'm gonna just wait and see.
I'm just let me see if Ineed to move back around. I
guess I guess we're just gonna haveto keep hustling, hustling, like Rick
Ross said, and get our money, or we can all just moved to
Ghana. Yeah, you know,we gotta all go back to the mother.
I'm over going to Ghana because theirfood is very good. Yeah,
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it's very good. It's amazing.So let me tell you. So my
topic that I've noticed over the courseof this week, really, I mean
over the course of several weeks isso there's been really bad air quality in
the York East Chicago from the wildfiresthat have been oh yeah over the summer.
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Yeah had that have been occurring inCanada. And we all went,
meaning me, Peter, any Dreee, we all went to New York at
the beginning of June. And sowe left that Sunday and the next day
was when Ally and so granted outhere, we drive a lot, so
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like when there's fires, like there'swildfires. I'm I've gotten used to the
fact that there maybe ash like mycar because my cars parked outside. But
when I saw those photos of peoplewalking around outside with this like really thick
air and people were just like takinga train and like put little bandanas like
over their mouth, Like, Ihit my friends up and I was like,
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y'all do not need to be outside? Yeah, like y'all like I
know that, Like I'm from NewYork, whatever, like we're gonna be
here, we multiply all that,but I'm like, that is going to
like I don't know what's in thatair, and I don't want anything bad
to happen to y'all. So,I mean, so the air quality has
been really bad. It's gonna begoing on all summer, and that's really
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unfortunate. But it also brings upthe topic of climate change. Yeah,
and we're gonna be talking about thattoday. But specifically what we're gonna be
talking about is we're gonna be talkingabout climate emotions, which is something I
recently became aware of. Yeah,so if the goal is for us to
save the planet for the next generation, what is the right degree of concern
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or panic? I know that Iget on everybody my household about like,
you guys have to put the recyclingwe're supposed to go and you have to
compost and it's important, and somepeople like Peter Woods don't do what they're
supposed to do. And it maybeit's partially climate change and climate my issues
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with climate emotions, but it's alsopartially because he doesn't listen to me I
ask him to do things. Butanyways, but my point is that we're
gonna we're gonna talk about that today. We're gonna dive deep into that,
and we're going to talk about whatthese emotions have developed, what these emotions
have, what they're about, whatthey've developed into from the climate control issues.
So yeah, likecause because I alwaysthought, you know, like it's
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rainy, I'm a little more depressedand sunshiny, I'm happy. Yeah.
Yeah, there are people that reallyare freaking out, like it's affecting their
mood and their sleep and like allkinds of stuff. So we're gonna talk
about that today. And if youguys are loving the show, please don't
forget to rate and review us onyour favorite podcast. Yes, yeah,
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okay, So we have so muchto talk about, so let's start the
show. Yeah okay, so itis time for ask doctor Imani anything,
and we love hearing from you guys, so let's get to it. Yes,
So our first letter today is fromg and she writes, I have
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a huge dilemma. My husband doesn'thave a lot of friends and has major
trust issues when it comes to newfriends. He really doesn't talk to his
family either. I, on theother hand, am very social and have
a strong group of friends and family. I encouraged him to have a party
together for his birthday, and hewas really happy with the turnout and had
a good time well. At theparty, his only friend hit on me
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and tried to gives me. WhenI confronted him about it, he said
he had won too many drinks andthat my husband couldn't know about this because
it would crush him and he wouldnever trust anyone again. I think his
best friend is absolutely right, butI don't keep anything from my husband,
and I think the secret would eatme up inside. What would you do?
Would you keep the secret to keepthe peace or would you tell your
man? This is gonna be aquick answer. Okay, okay, like
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this, this was gonna say theopposite. This is why I'm laughing.
No, this, this is gonnabe a quick answer. You need to
tell ya man because yo yo,man's friend quote quote unquote is trash.
That's trash. That's that's why,Like I mean, and I get it,
like you're trying to step outside ofyourself and say, okay, like
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I'm trying to consider the fact thatmy husband isn't as social and this is
like his one friend, but legit, that ain't his friend. That's not
because if he's doing that, there'sthere's no there's no other telling, Like
what else is because to me,uh, marriage, that's a sacred union.
That's something like you might have someshady friends, but one thing they're
not gonna do it is like messof your marriage. Maybe they're just a
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trash person in general. But likeyou hit on your friend's wife, you
try to kiss her at it like, ok, like we all in the
house. He don't have no kindof respect. We all in the house.
Yeah, me, my husband,his friends here, this nigga come
and what I'm sorry, Like,how does that? Like? How do
you like that? I mean,I'm not saying that that Sorry who wrote
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this letter? Jia? I'm notsaying that you did anything wrong. But
I'm just like in the minds,in the mindset of this man, like
your husband's friend, Like, I'mlike, what are you thinking? Like
did he like corner you in alike corner you? Did he like pull
you in the bathroom? Like I'mjust like, whatever it is, it
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is fucked up. Also, whatI'm wondering, Jia, is what your
reaction was, Like were you like, oh hell no, were you I
mean I'm not saying she was like, oh, oh my god, but
was she just like oh, andlike probably stunned. Yeah, so that's
your husband's astern. You know him, He's been around plenty of times,
I'm sure, so she probably waslike in shock, Like what you know
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what I'm saying, I don't know. I think she like, you definitely
need to tell your husband. That'syour number one, your numera, No,
nobody else matters, and it tome, it might you might also
want to question yourself as to whyyou don't want to tell him, because
to me, it sounds like thereason you don't want to tell him is
because now he's going to be completelyantisocial and now the onus of like hanging
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out with your husband is gonna fallon you. Like that to me is
a little bit of a selfish reason. So if that's the reason, then
you definitely need to tell your husband. But like just probably sit around,
sit down and think for a second, why do I think he needs this
one friend so bad? Right?And I get it he only has one
friend, but like that ain't hisfriends, That's what I'm saying, Like
the opposite would be so one friendversus zero friends, that ain't a big
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step anyway, but like if nofriends and away from all the drama of
the one friend, I think that'sa big, a big come up.
So yeah, I tell your husband, girl, And I'm hoping that I
know, like you wrote this lettersome time ago. Yeah, so I'm
hoping that you did tell your husband, right right, right right. I
didn't wait for us to tell youthat. Tell your man because he go
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Now, you don't wonder why youdidn't tell him. Yeah, that's trash.
Yeah yeah, And I hope youguys have the type of relationship where
he believes you and he doesn't,you know, because sometimes people are like,
whoa, that's my home, likethirty years Like, right, what
did you do? Right? Ididn't do anything? Yes, So thanks
j last our next letter comes froma listener by the name of Sherry.
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Hey Sherry. She says, Hey, ladies, I have major mom guilt.
I just started a new job thatis very demanding. I went from
cooking food for my family every nightto now I take out every night.
I'm working around the clock, andmy husband is on me about being present
for the family. I want todo it a good job at this new
job, but not at the costof my family in marriage. I'm really
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struggling emotionally about my work life balance, but don't know how to get this
problem under control. Please give meany advice on how you guys do the
work balance that would be extremely helpful. Okay, Hi Sherry, Hello,
Hi, So my first question is, so what's your husband doing? I
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mean, while that's true, imani, I know, I'm just saying like,
oh, like, well, how'sn'tit Even though you say that they're
I have come to realize in somefamilies there's just some roles that this is
what he does, this is whatI do. Sure, so maybe in
his in their family, her rolewas the cooking, the cleaning, like
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a traditional sense, right, andmaybe his stelf was like I take the
trash out, I do that,you know, whatever he does. Right.
So, on one hand, Iagree with you, like your partner
in life has taken on a demandingjob. I'm assuming more money family,
he got a step up in someways. But on the other hand,
did she have a conversation with himlike Okay, yeah, I'm not gonna
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be able to do what I didbefore. We need to reconfigure how we
run our household. Yes, butat the same time with this. What
this kind of reminds me of iswhen I was in med school and we
would like, did not me becauseI study differently, Like I couldn't sit
in class for eight hours a dayat that point in my life. But
there were people that would be,you know, in lecture at eight am
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and they would sit there until fivepm. And some of these people were
married, and so we would allbe in this huge study room that we
would use to like study quietly,and the people that were married, like
especially the women, their husbands wouldcome in and bring them like food,
that's so sweet, right, AndI'm just like, well, yeah,
And so that's why my first questionwas granted, she she, I understand
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traditional gender roles, but again I'mlike, well, nigga, if you
hungry, Like, so, whatyou're gonna do, Like you're gonna eat?
Are you gonna sit here and suck? You don't spit and get mad
at me about it? Like goeat? Like we got kids, like
go eat. So that being said, Sherry, here's what I'll said as
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somebody who and we're gonna talk aboutthis later on in the show, as
somebody who was kind of stepped backfrom hustle culture. I do have more
time to cook, but I don't. You don't want to I'm tired,
Like I don't. I don't feellike it's sometimes I'm chilling sometimes, you
know, like we eat a differentschedules in here sometimes like there's listen,
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there was a there was a billboardthat ran right before the pandemic, not
that far from here, and ithad me diet because it said it said
Postmates, just like mom used toorder. Now. I had a mom
and she worked like crazy, andsometimes you know, like she would sometimes
my mom would work so much thatshe would forget to pay, like the
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water bill, the light bill,and I mean it was fine. It
was I was like, oh mygod, I'm dead too. But I
would order ship from Dominos and wherever, Like like are you eating? Are
you healthy? Then? Like,girl, you better call Postmates and have
them deliver some food. But butbut bigger than that. I do understand
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you saying like have you had aconversation with your husband? But I kind
of also feel like this is likeyou and your husband are adults, Like
he should be able to like figureout very quickly, like wow, my
wife is very busy. She's takingon a demanding job which is going to
benefit me and our credit. Letme see what I can do to try
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to pick up the slack. SoI mean, yes, she could have
said something, but he also isthere t also could have been like,
you know what, a girl,let me like, let me work this
out, or let's create a scheduleor and I guess as as a woman,
one of the things that always irritatedthe shit out of me was when
I was younger and it was meand my cousin who basically grew up with
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me. There weren't any boys inmy generation, and it was always like,
you have to wait until you date, You have to wait until you
can like grow long nails, youhave to wait until And it was like,
and you know, as a woman, I remember my mom telling me
this a long time ago, andit never like sat well with me,
but she was She said, well, you know, when you're in a
relationship eventually with your husband and youguys are arguing, then you know,
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just and you guys are reach animpast just let him have it. And
I was like, no, becauseif I'm right, I mean, if
I feel that I'm right, I'mright, I'm willing to compromise, but
I'm not gonna be like, youknow, it is fine, you can
have it. Like no, it'slike if like we're gonna talk about this
until we reach an agreement. I'mjust very, very sensitive to gender roles
because even though like I'll tell myson like, yo, like you gotta
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do the dishes, he'll do it, but it's not something that yeah,
like I have I admittedly I haveissues with the kitchen and I'm like,
there shouldn't be any dishes in thesink overnight. But I've let that go.
And I guess when it comes toeven men who have the best intentions,
they still grew up a certain way, so they're not always used to
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doing you know what I'm saying liketo like, I just feel like with
women, it's more so instilled inus to like check on this, check
on do this? Did you dothat? So I just kind of feel
like, you know, excuse me, Sherry. With your husband, you
may need to be a little bitmore involved with getting him to think two
steps ahead. But once he's sayhe's a man, I'm like, look
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you, well, I don't thinkhurt. See here's the thing. There's
a lot of factors that we don'tknow. Hey, how long have y'all
been married? Be? How oldare you and him? Like? You
know what I'm saying, because ifyou're it's different. Are y'all newly married?
Have y'all been married twenty five years? Do you'll have little kids?
You have older kids? So Ithink I'm getting they're young because I'm guessing.
So we'll just say you're in yourlike mid thirties, you've got like
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middle school elementary age kid. Yeah, you know y'all have been married maybe
like five ten years, right,So we're just gonna generalize and say that
if that's the case, I wouldsay, it seems like you took the
job. Y'all needed the money.You like the position. It is very
demanding. Maybe you didn't know itwas going to be asked demanding. Right,
this is a good thing for yourfamily. But now everything's gonna have
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to change a little bit, andsometimes with change, if you don't change
the expectation, then you're gonna havethe problems. Right, So now,
the expectation has always been my wifecooks every night, you know, she
takes care of all the little housestuff. Now, all of a sudden,
overnight, it has changed, right, So now you do have to
have a conversation. Even if youyou know it's not your fault, you
do need to be dumb. Andhe can't even think about the fact like
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he needed to think ahead. Sorry, she said she it seems like she
doesn't have as much time with herfamily. But also you say you have
mom guilt. I can completely likeI've been there several times because I grew
up with a Korean mom, andKorean mothers do everything. They watch the
kids, they clean the clothes,like everything, and they work a job
like they don't. I've never heardmy mom complain. I'd be complaining all
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the time. I'd be like,oh, I got to feed y'all again
today. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I got to give y'all some dinner.
I just gave y'all dinner yesterday day. Like I'm the adult here,
and I never heard my mom complaining, but she did where she did all
this stuff, and so I justand even now, like when I go
places like I'm here and my momwill come and watch the kids and help
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my husband out with the kids,because she and then I come back,
my closet is organized, the kidshave been fed, meals, they're like,
I'm just like, yo, howdo you do this? I will
never be that mom. And so, because I knew up with that kind
of mother, I had a lotof guilt because I am a career woman,
you know what I mean. Ihad my kids later in life.
I focus on my career, andnow overnight it changed when I had children,
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and it was like, I mean, I want to be there,
and you know, I have thistraditional idea of a mother, but I'm
also not a traditional woman. Sohow do I reconcile the two? And
So I remember that first year ofthe pandemic in twenty twenty. That was
the first year that the first fullyear that me and my husband lived together,
and then his two oldest kids movedin with us and his mother.
So I had a household of peoplein in my head to everybody exactly because
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that's the kind of mother I had. So I was cooking three meals a
day. Mind you, I'm stillworking full time cooking three. I lost
it and went to and I waslike, I'm about to just leave and
never come back. Yeah, I'mgonna just pack my shit and never come.
I'm good for planning on leaving.I was really gonna have a nervous
breakdown because it was just like thatis not sustainable. So, yes,
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you have this new job, youhave this guilt, but you need to
a sit down with yourself reconcile whatis really most important versus what is the
ideal that I have? Because Ithink your kids are eating like that's the
number one goal. They're not everyday because you wanted them to eat.
Now is the food as nutritious asyou would like? Maybe not. Maybe
you need to rethink where you're orderingfood from right, or maybe you have
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to be more organize with your timeand say, okay, on Sundays,
I'm going to take like two threehours and I'm going to meal prep for
my family. So now instead ofme cooking every day, I just cooked
at a big block. Or yourhusband is going to meal prep for the
family. That's something, and that'sthat's the second part is okay. So
now that you've reconciled within yourself whatis really needed versus what your ideal was,
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now you go, okay, Nowlet me talk to my husband.
Now that I know what I canand cannot do in order to sustain my
mind and my family in a waythat is that just works for all of
us. Now, let me sitdown and talk to him and say,
okay, baby, I know Idid these things before, so now it's
gonna fall on you. And he'sa good husband, he'll do it so
a lot of times again, it'sjust resetting that expectation because he's like,
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you're cooking every day. You're notcooking now, like what happened? You
know? So I think maybe andmaybe he doesn't know how demanding because you
know, some people don't literally seewhat you do. And he's just like
you're working while you's okay, goodthough, you know what I mean.
So now it's like, no,let me explain. So hopefully he's a
good husband and he's like I gotyou, like, I'll tell stuff.
I just needed that conversation. Andif he's not, then write us in
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and tell us that he's not,because that might be a whole nother letter.
So I'm thinking about leaving my husband. Okay, we hope and that's
not the case, but if itis, hey let us know right exactly.
Well, thank you Jia, andthank you Sherry for submitting your questions,
and I hope that we were ableto help. You can first of
all, can we just take amoments and just shout out everybody who was
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wrote into this show. Thank you, Thank you everybody, Yes, thank
you for being honest sharing your dilemmaswith us. If you have anything else,
just keep it coming write us.You can send any of your problems
or your questions to Hello at Imanistate of mind dot com. That's an
email, Send it to us atHello at Imani, state of mind dot
com. YEA, all right now, doctor Romani, let's witch gears and
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get into our deep dive for today. As we all know, the world
is just there's a lot going on. Okay, there's unprecedented challenges, and
a lot of it is climate change. It's a crisis that transcends borders.
It affects everybody on this planet anddemands urgent actions from each one of us.
Climate change isn't just a buzzword likesome people would like to say.
It's really, you know, justthe reality of shaping our environment and for
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some of us, it's shaping ourmoods. So can you talk to us
about what climate change does and whatit does to climate emotions? Okay,
Before I do that, I justwant to shout out everybody up until this
point, who was doubting that globalwarming was a thing. So you said,
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was there some people who are whoare is still girl? Yes,
there's a whole party political party.Well what I'm saying is no, And
that was that was my point becauseI'm like, so I haven't heard them
talk about anything, like it's ahoax. I'm like, is it because
it's wild hot? When they yes, it's wild hot. So I like
bring up climate change. They dosay something like that's not that bad.
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Like you guys can tell right,it's we gonna fight. You know what
a good show is if you whaton Apple TV Plus called Extrapolations. Okay,
it's all about like climate change andit shows like the Store. Every
episode's like it intertwines, but likeit shows different people and how climate change
has affected them. And you wouldthink, like nobody want to watch that,
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But I'm telling y'all, it's likea trending show on Apple TV Plus
and it is really good. It'svery interesting and it was just like it's
set in the future. But you'llsee how like like the how political parties
play a part, like billionaires,tech billionaires, like regular people. Yeah,
you just see people who don't recyclewhen they supposed to. Understanding,
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I'm just kidding, just kidding,that's it. But yeah, if you
ever want to know all I wantto see, that's a good show.
Okay. So all right, solet's talk about what climate emotions are.
And again this is a new thisis something that I came across, like
in an article. This was relativelynew. Okay, what are climate emotions?
Climate emotions are more more or lessdescribed as thymia or like having like
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a depressed move what did you say, dysthymia. So this thymia is the
same thing as being like sad.Oh I was like, oh, I
was like, oh, you gotlittle thighs, yes, little thighs.
Gotta do what emotions? I gotthymia because my thighs, like don't look
at them, so like, oh, you in my thighs. So basically
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it's a state of depression about climatechange and or the real effects of climate
change. Because I'm remember back inthe eighties, like I was in fifth
grade, let's say, and theywere like, well, you know,
you guys, you gotta save water, we gotta do X y Z.
But there really wasn't anything like theywere like, yeah, the ice caps
are melting. We were like whatever, like it's fine, yeah, because
like it does it really affect methat much? No? But now it
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is because now there's you know,there are certain oh my god, I
forgot the name of the island nation. I think it was. I think
it in Micronesia. But they hadthis conference basically and they're seeking not reparations,
but they're actually seeking money from likethe the oh, I guess the
countries that are world let's say,superpowers, because they're like, you,
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guys, because of your actions,our island nation is about to flood,
like we're not going to be ableto live here, and y'all need to
give us some money so that wecan figure out what we're gonna do.
They're not gonna get you on money. They're not gonna get any money.
I'm like, you see us,Well, maybe we should start thinking about
climate chick. We are zero dollarsin reparations. So I hope, I
mean I do hope y'all get somemoney, but I don't think y'all gonna
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get nobody really in any kay.So So that's really what climate emotions are.
And it wasn't until I read thisarticle that I realized that they're actually
there are climate there's a Climate PsychiatryAlliance and a Climate psychology Alliance, Like
I didn't know that. So I'mabout to join the Climate Psychiatry Alliance,
So you know, get ready frommy mission zone. Now, here's just
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some basic facts about like how realthis is. The Earth has shifted thirty
one point five degrees as a resultof us pulling water out of the ground
thirty one percent. So what thatmeans is, I don't know if it's
this, I don't know if thiswill affect it. But so we all
use GPS, right, GPS theGlobal Positioning systems. They rely on satellites,
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and if we don't know where duenorth is or true north is and
it's thirty one degrees off the likethe directions that GPS gives us, it's
not going to be accurate. Soback to map quests, We go back
to the what is it the bigo you pull out the maps on your
trip, back to printing out yourdirections because you want to know exactly where
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you're going, and then getting stuckin traffic. So so yeah, that
was that was really shocking to mebecause when we pull water out of the
ground from what I From what Iread, it shifts the acts of the
Earth because that water eventually flows intothe ocean and that contributes to rising water
levels. And then like it,I mean, I'm not a I'm not
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a geologist, so don't you know, I can't really explain it as well
as I would like to. Butin any case, here's the thing.
There are people that are now goingthrough eco anxiety and eco guilt. Well
yes, so it's all based intothymia, but people are having like echoing
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like anxiety and guilt over climate change, and it comes from being responsible,
like the feeling of being responsible forcontributing to the environment's issues, which we
all collectively are. Yeah, right, so even thinking about like even though
I'm like really big on recycling,Okay, here's the thing. I'm really
big on, like all the trashgoing where it's supposed to go, because
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if you separate it properly, thenyou're their garbage doesn't smell. That's really
where I'm at. Okay, Butbut we all have collectively contributed to to
this planet's environmental issues, and sothere are definitely people that are like,
you know, having depressive episodes andnot sleeping and not and like having anxiety
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and having like feelings of grief andloss and so it's it's yeah, I
would I would say honestly, I'veseen it more so pronounced in millennials millennials,
and I think I've seen it morepronounced in uh generation z. Is
that what they're called? Gen z? Yeah? Yeah, because I mean
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affect them more than anybody else.They got another I don't know what planet,
I don't know what will happen.I do not know what. It
doesn't make me sad, you knowwhen I when I see because I'm one
of those people like I don't Idon't do as much as I could do,
but I definitely do more than Ithink the average person. Like I
make sure I have two recyclings.When I see somebody throwed away like no
that golden recycling, I'm like that, and I'm like, uh, you
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know, I prefer to have carsthat are hybrids, you know, electric
cars when I can. Yeah,I prefer you know. I try to
do green things, like the stuffthat I use, the products that I
use, trying not to have likecarsh chemicals that go back into the water
system. You know. I tryto do my part, but I also
have come across a few people whoI think have that. I actually met
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a girl years ago who she camefrom. I forgot which country was.
I think it was Jamaica, butit was like like in the like not
the forests, you say, forestsof Jamaica. Like she lived in life
in the mountains, the mountains,the mountains, right, and so she
was like, you know, Igrew really poor. She was like,
there was we don't really Sometimes wewould struggle for water. So when we
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lived here, she moved here toLa and she's just like people are just
so wasteful here. And I waslike, oh, yeah, it's America,
you know. One shooting a showand I think I had like maybe
like this much water left and Ileft the water bottle and she was like,
you left your water and I waslike, oh, they can just
throw that out. She was like, why would you waste water? I
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was like, girl, okay,I'll drink my spit water for you.
I'll drink my back wash for you. Girl. But she sure was a
lot. You know. I drankmy little I was like, I'm sorry,
right, you know, and shewas just like this, like I
like two days without drinking water.Because we didn't have water, and I
was like, yo, like,but she's right, right, right,
she's right. So I couldn't bemad at her and be like, hey,
chill out. So I just chillout. So I just drank my
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little little one sip of water.But then also you know, it affected
her because she would see like there'sso much waste, like we have to
you know, I knew. Idon't think it was as bad as like
keeping her up at night, butit obviously messed with her because of her
background, and she understood what scarcitywas. And I think a lot of
people, especially in America, don'tunderstand scarcity. No, they don't.
So if you don't understand it,you don't care about You're like, oh
that's somebody else. That's Micronesia's problem. Worry about being under water, you
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know, well really sad. Oneof the things that that makes that that
reminds me of is that even thoughlike we're like, okay, we're going
to recycle, and we do recycle, a lot of our recycling doesn't get
recycled, but it gets sent overseas, like overseas where like over like to
Africa, to China, So likethere are I've read this article a while
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ago that talked about how there arethere's all this like recycled trash that is
in the ocean off the coast ofI think it was like Ghana or Senegal,
because they just ship all that stuffover there, and so it's,
yeah, it's a mess. Iwas at the beach yesterday and there was
a dead sea lion on the beach, and my friend who lives here was
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just like, yeah, they've beenwashing up on shore a lot. And
I was like why. She waslike, girl, because we beat polluting
the ocean. And I was like, oh, my gosh, duh,
that's terrible. And you don't thinkabout the things if you don't see it.
But literally, she's like, Icome out to the beach all the
time. She's like, I'm noticingthere's way more just way more dead sea
lions because the water's just filthy.You remember, we were doing all this
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like oil drilling and and if youwalk on the beach in California, you
will get like that black the taron your feet. Oh yeah no,
and that's like oil that comes outof the earth. That's like they've been
drilling for it, and so it'lljust you know. Yeah, it's like
when people walk around New York andflip flops, say, it's a different
kind of ground, but don't dothat. By the way, well because
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I moved there and I was like, how come I can't get this off
my feet? You know, becauseyou know what. Okay, So when
when nine to eleven happened, Iwas living in New York and they so
this is this isn't a side,but uh, the corner's office didn't have
enough room, and so they hadthese trailers outside on the street, and
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so they were, you know,picking up like remnants of bodies, let's
say, and some of the remnantsof bodies. Because very very shortly after
that, I ended up working atthe Morgue, and sometimes they would have
like little like my macroscopic, likelittle DNA samples and stuff. But my
point is is that I would seepeople walking around the flip flops and I
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was like, oh, you gotdead people on your feet because those people
got vaporized and stuff, some ofthem. I was like, oh,
I don't do that. That's gross. You guys have people like wow.
Yeah. But anyway, my pointis is that don't walk barefoot in La
on the beach beach. He wantsto walk barefoot on the sand I could
put on. I didn't know.I was literally by the water, like
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close to the water where you know, the sand's kind of like wet,
it's like kind of it. WhereI was the Mayhat beach. Oh yeah,
Mayhappy it's not even the dirty beachhere. Yeah. And I was
like, but you know what,I read this article recently that said that
most of the water, most ofthe beach water in LA has fecal contaminations.
Yes, I don't get in thewater out here. I mean you
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can if you want to, youknow, play like baywah, but you're
gonna end up with just doodle onyour body. Just wash yourself girl.
Okay. So anyway, climate changeand climate emotions, so it's it's very
real for a lot of people.It's very real for us. I don't
know how. I mean, it'sgonna be ridiculously hot. I always joked
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it like I live out here inthe valley in LA and I was like,
yeah, by the time I'm eighty, this is gonna be great beachfront
property. So but then I'll havesome eco guilt. I have eco guilt
now for actually saying that So I'msorry, guys, but I hope you
guys have a better understanding of climatechange and climate emotions. And I definitely
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know that we're gonna be seeing alot more people, especially if you're a
mental health practitioner, people expressing thesetypes of emotions. So that's all the
time we have for a deep divefor today. And now let's switch to
our favorite segment of the show,pop culture diagnosis. Okay, so let's
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get right into our pop culture diagnosisfor this week. Okay, Meg,
can you give listeners a quick synopsisof the HBO show The Idol? Yes?
And who were diagnosing from the showtoday? Okay? The Idol is
like a huge successful show right now? Its yeah, it is. It's
like one of the top rated shows. People watch it, a lot of
people watch. A lot of peoplecomplain about like, oh this show is
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still but they still watched it.True, so you still gave him a
view. I mean, I stillwatched Maury if it was on, and
it's terrible. So but for somereason it is a top one of the
top rated shows. If the singerof the weekend is in there and it
show, the show focus on Jocelyn, She's an aspiring pop idol, but
then has her nervous breakdown after amom dies and her tours canceled. So
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she's determined to reclaim her title asthe sexiest pop star with no booty.
I mean most of'em don't havea booty, girl, you know what
I mean? And so so sheshe builds this complex relationship with Ted Dross
is it Ted Dross? Of TedRos? I can't ever get his name
right, Tedda And that's who theweekend plays. And he's like the self
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help guru. He's ahead of acult, a self help guru. Yes,
girl, this show sounds okay,go ahead, I'm sorry, sorry,
go ahead. So you know,Joslyn's characters are really having for because
you think she's like this on popprincess, but she's dark, twisted,
manipulative. So that's what we're gonnadiagnose today. So what kind of diagnosis
would you give to Jocelyn? Okay, first of all, let me just
back up and say I like alot of HBO shows, but this is
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not one of them. I mean, now, granted I've only seen like
a little bit of it, butand I hate to be that person to
be like, oh well, Idecide not to watch it based upon other
people's like, you know, thoughtsand comments on it, but it just
wasn't for you. I'm like,I guess. I mean, like,
for example, I've heard that Euphoriais good. Yeah, but I think
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it's a little bit like I've agedout of caring about the issues. You
know, it doesn't mean that they'renot interesting. It doesn't mean that like
the actors and actors aren't good onthat show. But I'm just like,
I don't know. It's no lawit's no svs. Don't even get me
started, y'all. It is nolaw order SVU. It is not a
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procedural drama. Okay. But thatbeing said, I think I also had
a problem with this show because Ireally just don't like the weekend I never
have no either. Oh my gosh, we're like the only people on the
Facebook he likes and No, Idon't want to talk negatively about I will,
but I'm like, because he's he'sa black man, he's as well,
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he's you know, very popular.Tell you, okay, listen,
you know a lot there are alot of black men who do well,
but I don't agree with what theydo. I don't either, but I
at least want to applaud that he'sselling that. You know. No,
no, I'm gonna tell you whyI don't applaud it. I don't applaud
it because I don't like his voice. I don't either. I also don't
like I never dug him. Andlike when he first came out, I
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used to write for this music websiteand so we would do like reviews and
just like these are my opinions andthe songs that he first came out with.
But it was just like you,you're a model and we're on drugs
and we're on this boat and we'regetting fucking up the pop songs. But
not like like I was just like, like you scuzzy as hell, Like
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I don't like, I don't wantto like you could keep that. So
anyway, that being said, theweekend with an nd is Tedros It the
weekend and this wig. First ofall, on this show Girl, he
got the wig Ponies tail. Rememberthe wig Ponies tail? They Samil Jacks
ahead in Yeah Girl, Tedro's gotthat same wig. It is a mess,
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all right. So anyway, literallythe same wig. They just took
it off of that set and putit right on, slapped it on,
and then there was one point okay, sorry, there was one point where
I guess like things got messy,like his hair was all messed up,
and I was like, if youdon't switch that out for or a better
wig anyway. Joscelyn Jocelyn is playedby Lily Rose Depp, who is Johnny
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Depp's daughter. Big up to you, Lily Rose, who not having teeth
like your dad. So, becausehave you seen have you seen Johnny Depp's
teeth close up? Girl? Whatis that from? Like cigarettes? I
mean it's just from life. Girl. He looked like he got some pebbles
outside my driveway and stuck him inhis in his mouth. He never got
rid of the Pirates of the Caribbean. I'm like, you know they be
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having then you know you can getI know he first of all, this
this man owns islands, islands.He could go get himself a really nice
island girl. Anyway, So LilyRose Depp, she she plays Joscelyn.
Okay, so Joscelyn is this girlwho's like, yeah, I'm a pop
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star and whatever. And then herecomes t Dross in his wig. But
the thing, as you mentioned,is that Jocelyn recently with her mom's death,
which is, you know, nomatter how old you are, is
going to completely upend your life andit's not something you get over. So
that's a lot of loss. Yeah, that's a lot of you know,
just feeling like, oh my god, I don't belong, I don't have
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a parent. Like maybe she mightfeel orphaned in a way. Yeah,
I've never dealt with that. Shenever dealt with it. She's too busy,
like with her career, you know, she never had a moment to
just gree exactly. So there's likethis mom shaped hole in her life.
And then here comes T. Drossand his wig and you know, and
then she's like, oh, wellhe's cares about me. And essentially because
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her mom is gone, and there'sthis huge sense of loss. Her mom
essentially serves as an attachment figure inour lives, whether we like our moms
or not. And so when thisattachment figure leaves, here comes T.
Dross and then he becomes her attachmentfigure. But the messed up part is
that he's just a really just grossperson, and this leads to her being
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This leads to her seeking Tedros's approvaland I guess not I guess, but
the way that Tedros wants approve oror wants her to please him is to
objectify herself. Yeah, and soshe's like, sure, I'm a pop
star. Of course I'm going toobjectify myself and just be like overtly sexual.
And that's not bad in and ofitself. But when you objectify yourselves
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to that degree, then you endup with a sense of deep like you
do, like depersonalization, like you'rekind of like watching yourself doing these things,
and she's so at a loss thatit ends up also just making her
feel dehumanized. Then you throw likedrugs and substance abuse that she's actively engaged
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in, and I would say,you end up with someone who definitely has
issues with depression. So let's saymajor depressive disorder and also substance abuse disorder.
And that's what I would diagnose JohnOne with. Yeah. So I
mean, here's what I'm gonna say. If you like shows about do you
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know it's really salacious behavior, andapparently a lot of people do, this
is the show for you. LikeI said, I think I've just kind
of aged out of that. Iwhen I I guess was slightly younger liked
movies and shows like that, butnow I'm just kind of lying. I
don't I don't care, like,yeah, yeah, it's not my thing.
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But if it's your thing, thenI hope you enjoyed it, and
if not, then you know,it's just trash to me. So anyway,
that's it for Pop Cultures Diagnosis.We're gonna have a non fun character
to analyze next week. So ifyou have any suggestions for fictional characters,
or if there's anybody else that you'dlike for me to diagnose that's fictional,
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hit me up on Twitter at doctorUnderscore Emani and hit up Meg on Instagram
at Meg scoop, and you canalso email the show at Hello at doctor
Emani dot excuse me. You canalso email the show at Emani state of
mind dot com. And again ifyou're a hello at oh my bad,
let me just go right to theback to where I was. If you
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have suggestions for fictional characters out therethat you would like for me to diagnose,
please hit me up on Twitter atdoctor Underscore Money, hit up Meg
at Meg scoop on Instagram, andemail the show at Hello Animanti, State
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don't forget to rate and review uson your favorite podcast apps. So thank
you for listening to me Monty Stateof Mind, you guys, and thank
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you to Meg for co hosting,and we will see you again next week.
Bye bye, hey,
Hi, everybody, Welcome between Montystate of Mind. I'm doctor d Moni
and I make scoop. Hey girl, him just glowing and just looking beautiful.
You know what. Thank you.I'm a little tired today, but
you know it's nothing that over moisturizationcannot hear it. So hi everybody,
and welcome to my shiny forehead.And if you are listening, then you
can't see it. So that's that'sfine. Okay, So what's on everybody's
(00:37):
mind? What is everybody talking about? So there was something that just happened
like a couple of months ago,and I want to get your thoughts on
it. And the state of Floridathey said that I guess the Board of
Education approved that they were going tosay that slaves learned useful skills that they
could like used to help themselves,you mean, like setting themselves free and
(00:59):
like revolutionize, like revolutionizing. Yeah, no, girls, you know they're
talking about sweeping so their floors couldbe clean. They're talking about cooking so
they can make food, even thoughthe food that they made wasn't for them.
That's what they are approved to teachabout slavery, So turning trash into
something edible. Let's see being raped, having their children taken away from those
(01:23):
are night. Those are great skillssets. Those are wonderful skills apparently from
the state of And here's what I'msaying this, you could tell that's the
state of old people. That's alwayslike, I'm not too worried about it
because how many I'm like, y'alldon't have that many kids in Florida compared
to other states. So the fewkids out are there, Hey, guys,
get out of there. Oh man, that's sad. That's really sad.
(01:44):
And like I know that. Imean, look, I was about
to say this, but as somebodywho I mean, you live in the
South, you grew up in theSouth. I grew up in the South
a bit and I lived in theSouth too. But a lot of people
will say, like, well,I don't understand how black people can live
there, And I'm like, well, I mean, should be happening out
here in California. She happens everywhere, Like Zack, people be getting killed
(02:06):
and shot at and dragged around andbasically tortured anywhere you are. So it's
kind of like, I mean,although Florida is well, not all of
Florida I'm I know there are nicepeople in Florida, like my family that
lives there, but you know,it's it's just like white people just man.
I'm like, these these white peoplein Florida, like Rhonda Santists,
(02:29):
are going over time into making surethat like their feelings do not get hurt.
Right, these white tears are justlike, oh my gosh, the
fragility is just yeah. And usuallyI'm like, oh, white tears,
like, you know, keep myskin soft. But I don't want those
white tears. Those white tears seemto be like toxic and caustic. Yes,
girls, yeah, and they unseasonedtwo tears supposed to be salty.
(02:50):
Okay, those tears are so it'sjust you know, so I'm like,
okay, and one on one hand, I'm like, this is ridiculous.
It's stupid. Why would anyone evenwant to live in Florida if they have
children. I get it, somepeople, you know, you have to
live there, whether it's family orwork or whatever. But this is just
a reminder as a parent, likeyou need it's your responsibility to teach your
children. So unfortunately, the otherlittle white kids ain't gonna learn the correct
(03:14):
but hopefully you can teach your childthe truth and then maybe they can reach
a couple of other kids. Rightthe best we can hope for it at
this point for Florida, the childrenof Florida. What's interesting is Okay,
So I was driving down the streetnot that far from here, and there
was a billboard for the Ronald ReaganLibrary out in like I don't know,
(03:38):
a thousand oaks or something, andit was for they have a exhibit on
Auschwitz. And the tagline said notnot that long ago, not that far
away, And I was like,oh, yeah, like that's like Nick
Savory, Yeah, yeah, likeperson, I mean much in the sense
(03:59):
that like like I mean as aslike as we keep going through like more
and more just like political weird thingsthat keep happening, Like RFK Junior had
had recently said something about that COVIDwas COVID. I guess like COVID was
(04:20):
caused or was propagated by or somethingby Chinese people and Jews, and so
it's it's like and so for me, I'm kind of like, yes,
I completely understand how when it comesto uh propaganda or when it comes to
like any type of controversy like atthe like at the end of it,
(04:42):
like Jews always get like blamed forit. Yeah, but I guess I'm
kind of like, wow, isthere a situation. Is there ever a
situation where like we're not gonna somehowand I mean black folks, where we
collectively are not somehow going to bejust continue to be like dehumanized. Yeah,
I don't know. It's like thecentury Olds, but I brought up
(05:06):
I brought up Auschwitz also because I'mjust like, listen, like Germany paid
reparations and they put in all ofthese like laws and orders in place to
make sure things wouldn't happen again.And I'm just like, damn. All
were asking for is for like thiscountry to be like you know what,
we like, we're sorry, andwe're sorry. I know. And also
(05:29):
I would really like my money bigup to California and the uh the commission,
I believe it's a commission to studyreparations. They actually did assign a
number and and it was it wasreally like it was really it was.
It was obviously done very strategically,like they really did the research. But
(05:50):
they were like, if you wereborn between these years and you're alive for
this long, then each year you'vebeen alive, then you lived in California,
you're allowed this much compensation for overpolicing or for unjust incarceration. I
wonder how they like come up witha nu miracle number for that, because
I mean, obviously gonna be likea billion dollars exactly. No, they
(06:14):
like they had it in they haveit in the actual report. But even
still, like I calculated mine,and granted I'm not from California, but
like I've lived here for almost twentyyears, and if if it were ratified
today, then I would get liketwo hundred and forty thousand, which isn't
bad. That's not bad, butit isn't bad. But you know,
(06:36):
but do you But okay, sois it enough? No, it's not
enough, it's not, but likeit's still something. And then when I
think about that, do you reallythink they're gonna pay all these black people?
This? So the idea is great, right, interparations and to hear
like this is how much I'm old, even though clearly it's doesn't. It's
like there's where's the punitive damages forthat? Right? But you know,
(06:59):
I don't I don't see it staypaying that's billions trillions. But think about
how much money we got from thepandemic that was, but that was like
eighteen hundred dollars a person. Itwasn't that much, but it was,
but it was still billion, likethey they us billion like right, but
that number is small in comparison topeople that let's say they're lifelong residence residences
of California and now you're saying itwas what two forty for you and you've
(07:24):
only been here twenty years, sosomebody else beginning like five hundred k.
Well, and they also said thatpeople like the older the person is like
they would be if this were enactedtoday, they would be paid first,
right. Yeah, I just I'mlike, oh, I would love for
that to really happen. It wouldmean so much because and it's it's that's
the way to make things right,right, right, It's it's one small
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way to make things right. Butyeah, I'm gonna just wait and see.
I'm just let me see if Ineed to move back around. I
guess I guess we're just gonna haveto keep hustling, hustling, like Rick
Ross said, and get our money, or we can all just moved to
Ghana. Yeah, you know,we gotta all go back to the mother.
I'm over going to Ghana because theirfood is very good. Yeah,
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it's very good. It's amazing.So let me tell you. So my
topic that I've noticed over the courseof this week, really, I mean
over the course of several weeks isso there's been really bad air quality in
the York East Chicago from the wildfiresthat have been oh yeah over the summer.
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Yeah had that have been occurring inCanada. And we all went,
meaning me, Peter, any Dreee, we all went to New York at
the beginning of June. And sowe left that Sunday and the next day
was when Ally and so granted outhere, we drive a lot, so
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like when there's fires, like there'swildfires. I'm I've gotten used to the
fact that there maybe ash like mycar because my cars parked outside. But
when I saw those photos of peoplewalking around outside with this like really thick
air and people were just like takinga train and like put little bandanas like
over their mouth, Like, Ihit my friends up and I was like,
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y'all do not need to be outside? Yeah, like y'all like I
know that, Like I'm from NewYork, whatever, like we're gonna be
here, we multiply all that,but I'm like, that is going to
like I don't know what's in thatair, and I don't want anything bad
to happen to y'all. So,I mean, so the air quality has
been really bad. It's gonna begoing on all summer, and that's really
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unfortunate. But it also brings upthe topic of climate change. Yeah,
and we're gonna be talking about thattoday. But specifically what we're gonna be
talking about is we're gonna be talkingabout climate emotions, which is something I
recently became aware of. Yeah,so if the goal is for us to
save the planet for the next generation, what is the right degree of concern
(09:56):
or panic? I know that Iget on everybody my household about like,
you guys have to put the recyclingwe're supposed to go and you have to
compost and it's important, and somepeople like Peter Woods don't do what they're
supposed to do. And it maybeit's partially climate change and climate my issues
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with climate emotions, but it's alsopartially because he doesn't listen to me I
ask him to do things. Butanyways, but my point is that we're
gonna we're gonna talk about that today. We're gonna dive deep into that,
and we're going to talk about whatthese emotions have developed, what these emotions
have, what they're about, whatthey've developed into from the climate control issues.
So yeah, likecause because I alwaysthought, you know, like it's
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rainy, I'm a little more depressedand sunshiny, I'm happy. Yeah.
Yeah, there are people that reallyare freaking out, like it's affecting their
mood and their sleep and like allkinds of stuff. So we're gonna talk
about that today. And if youguys are loving the show, please don't
forget to rate and review us onyour favorite podcast. Yes, yeah,
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okay, So we have so muchto talk about, so let's start the
show. Yeah okay, so itis time for ask doctor Imani anything,
and we love hearing from you guys, so let's get to it. Yes,
So our first letter today is fromg and she writes, I have
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a huge dilemma. My husband doesn'thave a lot of friends and has major
trust issues when it comes to newfriends. He really doesn't talk to his
family either. I, on theother hand, am very social and have
a strong group of friends and family. I encouraged him to have a party
together for his birthday, and hewas really happy with the turnout and had
a good time well. At theparty, his only friend hit on me
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and tried to gives me. WhenI confronted him about it, he said
he had won too many drinks andthat my husband couldn't know about this because
it would crush him and he wouldnever trust anyone again. I think his
best friend is absolutely right, butI don't keep anything from my husband,
and I think the secret would eatme up inside. What would you do?
Would you keep the secret to keepthe peace or would you tell your
man? This is gonna be aquick answer. Okay, okay, like
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this, this was gonna say theopposite. This is why I'm laughing.
No, this, this is gonnabe a quick answer. You need to
tell ya man because yo yo,man's friend quote quote unquote is trash.
That's trash. That's that's why,Like I mean, and I get it,
like you're trying to step outside ofyourself and say, okay, like
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I'm trying to consider the fact thatmy husband isn't as social and this is
like his one friend, but legit, that ain't his friend. That's not
because if he's doing that, there'sthere's no there's no other telling, Like
what else is because to me,uh, marriage, that's a sacred union.
That's something like you might have someshady friends, but one thing they're
not gonna do it is like messof your marriage. Maybe they're just a
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trash person in general. But likeyou hit on your friend's wife, you
try to kiss her at it like, ok, like we all in the
house. He don't have no kindof respect. We all in the house.
Yeah, me, my husband,his friends here, this nigga come
and what I'm sorry, Like,how does that? Like? How do
you like that? I mean,I'm not saying that that Sorry who wrote
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this letter? Jia? I'm notsaying that you did anything wrong. But
I'm just like in the minds,in the mindset of this man, like
your husband's friend, Like, I'mlike, what are you thinking? Like
did he like corner you in alike corner you? Did he like pull
you in the bathroom? Like I'mjust like, whatever it is, it
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is fucked up. Also, whatI'm wondering, Jia, is what your
reaction was, Like were you like, oh hell no, were you I
mean I'm not saying she was like, oh, oh my god, but
was she just like oh, andlike probably stunned. Yeah, so that's
your husband's astern. You know him, He's been around plenty of times,
I'm sure, so she probably waslike in shock, Like what you know
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what I'm saying, I don't know. I think she like, you definitely
need to tell your husband. That'syour number one, your numera, No,
nobody else matters, and it tome, it might you might also
want to question yourself as to whyyou don't want to tell him, because
to me, it sounds like thereason you don't want to tell him is
because now he's going to be completelyantisocial and now the onus of like hanging
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out with your husband is gonna fallon you. Like that to me is
a little bit of a selfish reason. So if that's the reason, then
you definitely need to tell your husband. But like just probably sit around,
sit down and think for a second, why do I think he needs this
one friend so bad? Right?And I get it he only has one
friend, but like that ain't hisfriends, That's what I'm saying, Like
the opposite would be so one friendversus zero friends, that ain't a big
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step anyway, but like if nofriends and away from all the drama of
the one friend, I think that'sa big, a big come up.
So yeah, I tell your husband, girl, And I'm hoping that I
know, like you wrote this lettersome time ago. Yeah, so I'm
hoping that you did tell your husband, right right, right right. I
didn't wait for us to tell youthat. Tell your man because he go
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Now, you don't wonder why youdidn't tell him. Yeah, that's trash.
Yeah yeah, And I hope youguys have the type of relationship where
he believes you and he doesn't,you know, because sometimes people are like,
whoa, that's my home, likethirty years Like, right, what
did you do? Right? Ididn't do anything? Yes, So thanks
j last our next letter comes froma listener by the name of Sherry.
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Hey Sherry. She says, Hey, ladies, I have major mom guilt.
I just started a new job thatis very demanding. I went from
cooking food for my family every nightto now I take out every night.
I'm working around the clock, andmy husband is on me about being present
for the family. I want todo it a good job at this new
job, but not at the costof my family in marriage. I'm really
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struggling emotionally about my work life balance, but don't know how to get this
problem under control. Please give meany advice on how you guys do the
work balance that would be extremely helpful. Okay, Hi Sherry, Hello,
Hi, So my first question is, so what's your husband doing? I
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mean, while that's true, imani, I know, I'm just saying like,
oh, like, well, how'sn'tit Even though you say that they're
I have come to realize in somefamilies there's just some roles that this is
what he does, this is whatI do. Sure, so maybe in
his in their family, her rolewas the cooking, the cleaning, like
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a traditional sense, right, andmaybe his stelf was like I take the
trash out, I do that,you know, whatever he does. Right.
So, on one hand, Iagree with you, like your partner
in life has taken on a demandingjob. I'm assuming more money family,
he got a step up in someways. But on the other hand,
did she have a conversation with himlike Okay, yeah, I'm not gonna
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be able to do what I didbefore. We need to reconfigure how we
run our household. Yes, butat the same time with this. What
this kind of reminds me of iswhen I was in med school and we
would like, did not me becauseI study differently, Like I couldn't sit
in class for eight hours a dayat that point in my life. But
there were people that would be,you know, in lecture at eight am
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and they would sit there until fivepm. And some of these people were
married, and so we would allbe in this huge study room that we
would use to like study quietly,and the people that were married, like
especially the women, their husbands wouldcome in and bring them like food,
that's so sweet, right, AndI'm just like, well, yeah,
And so that's why my first questionwas granted, she she, I understand
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traditional gender roles, but again I'mlike, well, nigga, if you
hungry, Like, so, whatyou're gonna do, Like you're gonna eat?
Are you gonna sit here and suck? You don't spit and get mad
at me about it? Like goeat? Like we got kids, like
go eat. So that being said, Sherry, here's what I'll said as
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somebody who and we're gonna talk aboutthis later on in the show, as
somebody who was kind of stepped backfrom hustle culture. I do have more
time to cook, but I don't. You don't want to I'm tired,
Like I don't. I don't feellike it's sometimes I'm chilling sometimes, you
know, like we eat a differentschedules in here sometimes like there's listen,
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there was a there was a billboardthat ran right before the pandemic, not
that far from here, and ithad me diet because it said it said
Postmates, just like mom used toorder. Now. I had a mom
and she worked like crazy, andsometimes you know, like she would sometimes
my mom would work so much thatshe would forget to pay, like the
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water bill, the light bill,and I mean it was fine. It
was I was like, oh mygod, I'm dead too. But I
would order ship from Dominos and wherever, Like like are you eating? Are
you healthy? Then? Like,girl, you better call Postmates and have
them deliver some food. But butbut bigger than that. I do understand
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you saying like have you had aconversation with your husband? But I kind
of also feel like this is likeyou and your husband are adults, Like
he should be able to like figureout very quickly, like wow, my
wife is very busy. She's takingon a demanding job which is going to
benefit me and our credit. Letme see what I can do to try
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to pick up the slack. SoI mean, yes, she could have
said something, but he also isthere t also could have been like,
you know what, a girl,let me like, let me work this
out, or let's create a scheduleor and I guess as as a woman,
one of the things that always irritatedthe shit out of me was when
I was younger and it was meand my cousin who basically grew up with
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me. There weren't any boys inmy generation, and it was always like,
you have to wait until you date, You have to wait until you
can like grow long nails, youhave to wait until And it was like,
and you know, as a woman, I remember my mom telling me
this a long time ago, andit never like sat well with me,
but she was She said, well, you know, when you're in a
relationship eventually with your husband and youguys are arguing, then you know,
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just and you guys are reach animpast just let him have it. And
I was like, no, becauseif I'm right, I mean, if
I feel that I'm right, I'mright, I'm willing to compromise, but
I'm not gonna be like, youknow, it is fine, you can
have it. Like no, it'slike if like we're gonna talk about this
until we reach an agreement. I'mjust very, very sensitive to gender roles
because even though like I'll tell myson like, yo, like you gotta
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do the dishes, he'll do it, but it's not something that yeah,
like I have I admittedly I haveissues with the kitchen and I'm like,
there shouldn't be any dishes in thesink overnight. But I've let that go.
And I guess when it comes toeven men who have the best intentions,
they still grew up a certain way, so they're not always used to
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doing you know what I'm saying liketo like, I just feel like with
women, it's more so instilled inus to like check on this, check
on do this? Did you dothat? So I just kind of feel
like, you know, excuse me, Sherry. With your husband, you
may need to be a little bitmore involved with getting him to think two
steps ahead. But once he's sayhe's a man, I'm like, look
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you, well, I don't thinkhurt. See here's the thing. There's
a lot of factors that we don'tknow. Hey, how long have y'all
been married? Be? How oldare you and him? Like? You
know what I'm saying, because ifyou're it's different. Are y'all newly married?
Have y'all been married twenty five years? Do you'll have little kids?
You have older kids? So Ithink I'm getting they're young because I'm guessing.
So we'll just say you're in yourlike mid thirties, you've got like
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middle school elementary age kid. Yeah, you know y'all have been married maybe
like five ten years, right,So we're just gonna generalize and say that
if that's the case, I wouldsay, it seems like you took the
job. Y'all needed the money.You like the position. It is very
demanding. Maybe you didn't know itwas going to be asked demanding. Right,
this is a good thing for yourfamily. But now everything's gonna have
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to change a little bit, andsometimes with change, if you don't change
the expectation, then you're gonna havethe problems. Right, So now,
the expectation has always been my wifecooks every night, you know, she
takes care of all the little housestuff. Now, all of a sudden,
overnight, it has changed, right, So now you do have to
have a conversation. Even if youyou know it's not your fault, you
do need to be dumb. Andhe can't even think about the fact like
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he needed to think ahead. Sorry, she said she it seems like she
doesn't have as much time with herfamily. But also you say you have
mom guilt. I can completely likeI've been there several times because I grew
up with a Korean mom, andKorean mothers do everything. They watch the
kids, they clean the clothes,like everything, and they work a job
like they don't. I've never heardmy mom complain. I'd be complaining all
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the time. I'd be like,oh, I got to feed y'all again
today. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I got to give y'all some dinner.
I just gave y'all dinner yesterday day. Like I'm the adult here,
and I never heard my mom complaining, but she did where she did all
this stuff, and so I justand even now, like when I go
places like I'm here and my momwill come and watch the kids and help
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my husband out with the kids,because she and then I come back,
my closet is organized, the kidshave been fed, meals, they're like,
I'm just like, yo, howdo you do this? I will
never be that mom. And so, because I knew up with that kind
of mother, I had a lotof guilt because I am a career woman,
you know what I mean. Ihad my kids later in life.
I focus on my career, andnow overnight it changed when I had children,
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and it was like, I mean, I want to be there,
and you know, I have thistraditional idea of a mother, but I'm
also not a traditional woman. Sohow do I reconcile the two? And
So I remember that first year ofthe pandemic in twenty twenty. That was
the first year that the first fullyear that me and my husband lived together,
and then his two oldest kids movedin with us and his mother.
So I had a household of peoplein in my head to everybody exactly because
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that's the kind of mother I had. So I was cooking three meals a
day. Mind you, I'm stillworking full time cooking three. I lost
it and went to and I waslike, I'm about to just leave and
never come back. Yeah, I'mgonna just pack my shit and never come.
I'm good for planning on leaving.I was really gonna have a nervous
breakdown because it was just like thatis not sustainable. So, yes,
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you have this new job, youhave this guilt, but you need to
a sit down with yourself reconcile whatis really most important versus what is the
ideal that I have? Because Ithink your kids are eating like that's the
number one goal. They're not everyday because you wanted them to eat.
Now is the food as nutritious asyou would like? Maybe not. Maybe
you need to rethink where you're orderingfood from right, or maybe you have
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to be more organize with your timeand say, okay, on Sundays,
I'm going to take like two threehours and I'm going to meal prep for
my family. So now instead ofme cooking every day, I just cooked
at a big block. Or yourhusband is going to meal prep for the
family. That's something, and that'sthat's the second part is okay. So
now that you've reconciled within yourself whatis really needed versus what your ideal was,
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now you go, okay, Nowlet me talk to my husband.
Now that I know what I canand cannot do in order to sustain my
mind and my family in a waythat is that just works for all of
us. Now, let me sitdown and talk to him and say,
okay, baby, I know Idid these things before, so now it's
gonna fall on you. And he'sa good husband, he'll do it so
a lot of times again, it'sjust resetting that expectation because he's like,
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you're cooking every day. You're notcooking now, like what happened? You
know? So I think maybe andmaybe he doesn't know how demanding because you
know, some people don't literally seewhat you do. And he's just like
you're working while you's okay, goodthough, you know what I mean.
So now it's like, no,let me explain. So hopefully he's a
good husband and he's like I gotyou, like, I'll tell stuff.
I just needed that conversation. Andif he's not, then write us in
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and tell us that he's not,because that might be a whole nother letter.
So I'm thinking about leaving my husband. Okay, we hope and that's
not the case, but if itis, hey let us know right exactly.
Well, thank you Jia, andthank you Sherry for submitting your questions,
and I hope that we were ableto help. You can first of
all, can we just take amoments and just shout out everybody who was
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wrote into this show. Thank you, Thank you everybody, Yes, thank
you for being honest sharing your dilemmaswith us. If you have anything else,
just keep it coming write us.You can send any of your problems
or your questions to Hello at Imanistate of mind dot com. That's an
email, Send it to us atHello at Imani, state of mind dot
com. YEA, all right now, doctor Romani, let's witch gears and
(26:51):
get into our deep dive for today. As we all know, the world
is just there's a lot going on. Okay, there's unprecedented challenges, and
a lot of it is climate change. It's a crisis that transcends borders.
It affects everybody on this planet anddemands urgent actions from each one of us.
Climate change isn't just a buzzword likesome people would like to say.
It's really, you know, justthe reality of shaping our environment and for
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some of us, it's shaping ourmoods. So can you talk to us
about what climate change does and whatit does to climate emotions? Okay,
Before I do that, I justwant to shout out everybody up until this
point, who was doubting that globalwarming was a thing. So you said,
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was there some people who are whoare is still girl? Yes,
there's a whole party political party.Well what I'm saying is no, And
that was that was my point becauseI'm like, so I haven't heard them
talk about anything, like it's ahoax. I'm like, is it because
it's wild hot? When they yes, it's wild hot. So I like
bring up climate change. They dosay something like that's not that bad.
(27:56):
Like you guys can tell right,it's we gonna fight. You know what
a good show is if you whaton Apple TV Plus called Extrapolations. Okay,
it's all about like climate change andit shows like the Store. Every
episode's like it intertwines, but likeit shows different people and how climate change
has affected them. And you wouldthink, like nobody want to watch that,
(28:18):
But I'm telling y'all, it's likea trending show on Apple TV Plus
and it is really good. It'svery interesting and it was just like it's
set in the future. But you'llsee how like like the how political parties
play a part, like billionaires,tech billionaires, like regular people. Yeah,
you just see people who don't recyclewhen they supposed to. Understanding,
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I'm just kidding, just kidding,that's it. But yeah, if you
ever want to know all I wantto see, that's a good show.
Okay. So all right, solet's talk about what climate emotions are.
And again this is a new thisis something that I came across, like
in an article. This was relativelynew. Okay, what are climate emotions?
Climate emotions are more more or lessdescribed as thymia or like having like
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a depressed move what did you say, dysthymia. So this thymia is the
same thing as being like sad.Oh I was like, oh, I
was like, oh, you gotlittle thighs, yes, little thighs.
Gotta do what emotions? I gotthymia because my thighs, like don't look
at them, so like, oh, you in my thighs. So basically
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it's a state of depression about climatechange and or the real effects of climate
change. Because I'm remember back inthe eighties, like I was in fifth
grade, let's say, and theywere like, well, you know,
you guys, you gotta save water, we gotta do X y Z.
But there really wasn't anything like theywere like, yeah, the ice caps
are melting. We were like whatever, like it's fine, yeah, because
like it does it really affect methat much? No? But now it
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is because now there's you know,there are certain oh my god, I
forgot the name of the island nation. I think it was. I think
it in Micronesia. But they hadthis conference basically and they're seeking not reparations,
but they're actually seeking money from likethe the oh, I guess the
countries that are world let's say,superpowers, because they're like, you,
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guys, because of your actions,our island nation is about to flood,
like we're not going to be ableto live here, and y'all need to
give us some money so that wecan figure out what we're gonna do.
They're not gonna get you on money. They're not gonna get any money.
I'm like, you see us,Well, maybe we should start thinking about
climate chick. We are zero dollarsin reparations. So I hope, I
mean I do hope y'all get somemoney, but I don't think y'all gonna
(30:41):
get nobody really in any kay.So So that's really what climate emotions are.
And it wasn't until I read thisarticle that I realized that they're actually
there are climate there's a Climate PsychiatryAlliance and a Climate psychology Alliance, Like
I didn't know that. So I'mabout to join the Climate Psychiatry Alliance,
So you know, get ready frommy mission zone. Now, here's just
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some basic facts about like how realthis is. The Earth has shifted thirty
one point five degrees as a resultof us pulling water out of the ground
thirty one percent. So what thatmeans is, I don't know if it's
this, I don't know if thiswill affect it. But so we all
use GPS, right, GPS theGlobal Positioning systems. They rely on satellites,
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and if we don't know where duenorth is or true north is and
it's thirty one degrees off the likethe directions that GPS gives us, it's
not going to be accurate. Soback to map quests, We go back
to the what is it the bigo you pull out the maps on your
trip, back to printing out yourdirections because you want to know exactly where
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you're going, and then getting stuckin traffic. So so yeah, that
was that was really shocking to mebecause when we pull water out of the
ground from what I From what Iread, it shifts the acts of the
Earth because that water eventually flows intothe ocean and that contributes to rising water
levels. And then like it,I mean, I'm not a I'm not
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a geologist, so don't you know, I can't really explain it as well
as I would like to. Butin any case, here's the thing.
There are people that are now goingthrough eco anxiety and eco guilt. Well
yes, so it's all based intothymia, but people are having like echoing
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like anxiety and guilt over climate change, and it comes from being responsible,
like the feeling of being responsible forcontributing to the environment's issues, which we
all collectively are. Yeah, right, so even thinking about like even though
I'm like really big on recycling,Okay, here's the thing. I'm really
big on, like all the trashgoing where it's supposed to go, because
(32:57):
if you separate it properly, thenyou're their garbage doesn't smell. That's really
where I'm at. Okay, Butbut we all have collectively contributed to to
this planet's environmental issues, and sothere are definitely people that are like,
you know, having depressive episodes andnot sleeping and not and like having anxiety
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and having like feelings of grief andloss and so it's it's yeah, I
would I would say honestly, I'veseen it more so pronounced in millennials millennials,
and I think I've seen it morepronounced in uh generation z. Is
that what they're called? Gen z? Yeah? Yeah, because I mean
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affect them more than anybody else.They got another I don't know what planet,
I don't know what will happen.I do not know what. It
doesn't make me sad, you knowwhen I when I see because I'm one
of those people like I don't Idon't do as much as I could do,
but I definitely do more than Ithink the average person. Like I
make sure I have two recyclings.When I see somebody throwed away like no
that golden recycling, I'm like that, and I'm like, uh, you
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know, I prefer to have carsthat are hybrids, you know, electric
cars when I can. Yeah,I prefer you know. I try to
do green things, like the stuffthat I use, the products that I
use, trying not to have likecarsh chemicals that go back into the water
system. You know. I tryto do my part, but I also
have come across a few people whoI think have that. I actually met
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a girl years ago who she camefrom. I forgot which country was.
I think it was Jamaica, butit was like like in the like not
the forests, you say, forestsof Jamaica. Like she lived in life
in the mountains, the mountains,the mountains, right, and so she
was like, you know, Igrew really poor. She was like,
there was we don't really Sometimes wewould struggle for water. So when we
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lived here, she moved here toLa and she's just like people are just
so wasteful here. And I waslike, oh, yeah, it's America,
you know. One shooting a showand I think I had like maybe
like this much water left and Ileft the water bottle and she was like,
you left your water and I waslike, oh, they can just
throw that out. She was like, why would you waste water? I
(35:12):
was like, girl, okay,I'll drink my spit water for you.
I'll drink my back wash for you. Girl. But she sure was a
lot. You know. I drankmy little I was like, I'm sorry,
right, you know, and shewas just like this, like I
like two days without drinking water.Because we didn't have water, and I
was like, yo, like,but she's right, right, right,
she's right. So I couldn't bemad at her and be like, hey,
chill out. So I just chillout. So I just drank my
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little little one sip of water.But then also you know, it affected
her because she would see like there'sso much waste, like we have to
you know, I knew. Idon't think it was as bad as like
keeping her up at night, butit obviously messed with her because of her
background, and she understood what scarcitywas. And I think a lot of
people, especially in America, don'tunderstand scarcity. No, they don't.
So if you don't understand it,you don't care about You're like, oh
that's somebody else. That's Micronesia's problem. Worry about being under water, you
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know, well really sad. Oneof the things that that makes that that
reminds me of is that even thoughlike we're like, okay, we're going
to recycle, and we do recycle, a lot of our recycling doesn't get
recycled, but it gets sent overseas, like overseas where like over like to
Africa, to China, So likethere are I've read this article a while
(36:20):
ago that talked about how there arethere's all this like recycled trash that is
in the ocean off the coast ofI think it was like Ghana or Senegal,
because they just ship all that stuffover there, and so it's,
yeah, it's a mess. Iwas at the beach yesterday and there was
a dead sea lion on the beach, and my friend who lives here was
(36:44):
just like, yeah, they've beenwashing up on shore a lot. And
I was like why. She waslike, girl, because we beat polluting
the ocean. And I was like, oh, my gosh, duh,
that's terrible. And you don't thinkabout the things if you don't see it.
But literally, she's like, Icome out to the beach all the
time. She's like, I'm noticingthere's way more just way more dead sea
lions because the water's just filthy.You remember, we were doing all this
(37:04):
like oil drilling and and if youwalk on the beach in California, you
will get like that black the taron your feet. Oh yeah no,
and that's like oil that comes outof the earth. That's like they've been
drilling for it, and so it'lljust you know. Yeah, it's like
when people walk around New York andflip flops, say, it's a different
kind of ground, but don't dothat. By the way, well because
(37:25):
I moved there and I was like, how come I can't get this off
my feet? You know, becauseyou know what. Okay, So when
when nine to eleven happened, Iwas living in New York and they so
this is this isn't a side,but uh, the corner's office didn't have
enough room, and so they hadthese trailers outside on the street, and
(37:45):
so they were, you know,picking up like remnants of bodies, let's
say, and some of the remnantsof bodies. Because very very shortly after
that, I ended up working atthe Morgue, and sometimes they would have
like little like my macroscopic, likelittle DNA samples and stuff. But my
point is is that I would seepeople walking around the flip flops and I
(38:06):
was like, oh, you gotdead people on your feet because those people
got vaporized and stuff, some ofthem. I was like, oh,
I don't do that. That's gross. You guys have people like wow.
Yeah. But anyway, my pointis is that don't walk barefoot in La
on the beach beach. He wantsto walk barefoot on the sand I could
put on. I didn't know.I was literally by the water, like
(38:28):
close to the water where you know, the sand's kind of like wet,
it's like kind of it. WhereI was the Mayhat beach. Oh yeah,
Mayhappy it's not even the dirty beachhere. Yeah. And I was
like, but you know what,I read this article recently that said that
most of the water, most ofthe beach water in LA has fecal contaminations.
Yes, I don't get in thewater out here. I mean you
(38:51):
can if you want to, youknow, play like baywah, but you're
gonna end up with just doodle onyour body. Just wash yourself girl.
Okay. So anyway, climate changeand climate emotions, so it's it's very
real for a lot of people.It's very real for us. I don't
know how. I mean, it'sgonna be ridiculously hot. I always joked
(39:12):
it like I live out here inthe valley in LA and I was like,
yeah, by the time I'm eighty, this is gonna be great beachfront
property. So but then I'll havesome eco guilt. I have eco guilt
now for actually saying that So I'msorry, guys, but I hope you
guys have a better understanding of climatechange and climate emotions. And I definitely
(39:36):
know that we're gonna be seeing alot more people, especially if you're a
mental health practitioner, people expressing thesetypes of emotions. So that's all the
time we have for a deep divefor today. And now let's switch to
our favorite segment of the show,pop culture diagnosis. Okay, so let's
(39:57):
get right into our pop culture diagnosisfor this week. Okay, Meg,
can you give listeners a quick synopsisof the HBO show The Idol? Yes?
And who were diagnosing from the showtoday? Okay? The Idol is
like a huge successful show right now? Its yeah, it is. It's
like one of the top rated shows. People watch it, a lot of
people watch. A lot of peoplecomplain about like, oh this show is
(40:19):
still but they still watched it.True, so you still gave him a
view. I mean, I stillwatched Maury if it was on, and
it's terrible. So but for somereason it is a top one of the
top rated shows. If the singerof the weekend is in there and it
show, the show focus on Jocelyn, She's an aspiring pop idol, but
then has her nervous breakdown after amom dies and her tours canceled. So
(40:42):
she's determined to reclaim her title asthe sexiest pop star with no booty.
I mean most of'em don't havea booty, girl, you know what
I mean? And so so sheshe builds this complex relationship with Ted Dross
is it Ted Dross? Of TedRos? I can't ever get his name
right, Tedda And that's who theweekend plays. And he's like the self
(41:05):
help guru. He's ahead of acult, a self help guru. Yes,
girl, this show sounds okay,go ahead, I'm sorry, sorry,
go ahead. So you know,Joslyn's characters are really having for because
you think she's like this on popprincess, but she's dark, twisted,
manipulative. So that's what we're gonnadiagnose today. So what kind of diagnosis
would you give to Jocelyn? Okay, first of all, let me just
back up and say I like alot of HBO shows, but this is
(41:30):
not one of them. I mean, now, granted I've only seen like
a little bit of it, butand I hate to be that person to
be like, oh well, Idecide not to watch it based upon other
people's like, you know, thoughtsand comments on it, but it just
wasn't for you. I'm like,I guess. I mean, like,
for example, I've heard that Euphoriais good. Yeah, but I think
(41:53):
it's a little bit like I've agedout of caring about the issues. You
know, it doesn't mean that they'renot interesting. It doesn't mean that like
the actors and actors aren't good onthat show. But I'm just like,
I don't know. It's no lawit's no svs. Don't even get me
started, y'all. It is nolaw order SVU. It is not a
(42:13):
procedural drama. Okay. But thatbeing said, I think I also had
a problem with this show because Ireally just don't like the weekend I never
have no either. Oh my gosh, we're like the only people on the
Facebook he likes and No, Idon't want to talk negatively about I will,
but I'm like, because he's he'sa black man, he's as well,
(42:36):
he's you know, very popular.Tell you, okay, listen,
you know a lot there are alot of black men who do well,
but I don't agree with what theydo. I don't either, but I
at least want to applaud that he'sselling that. You know. No,
no, I'm gonna tell you whyI don't applaud it. I don't applaud
it because I don't like his voice. I don't either. I also don't
like I never dug him. Andlike when he first came out, I
(42:58):
used to write for this music websiteand so we would do like reviews and
just like these are my opinions andthe songs that he first came out with.
But it was just like you,you're a model and we're on drugs
and we're on this boat and we'regetting fucking up the pop songs. But
not like like I was just like, like you scuzzy as hell, Like
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I don't like, I don't wantto like you could keep that. So
anyway, that being said, theweekend with an nd is Tedros It the
weekend and this wig. First ofall, on this show Girl, he
got the wig Ponies tail. Rememberthe wig Ponies tail? They Samil Jacks
ahead in Yeah Girl, Tedro's gotthat same wig. It is a mess,
(43:45):
all right. So anyway, literallythe same wig. They just took
it off of that set and putit right on, slapped it on,
and then there was one point okay, sorry, there was one point where
I guess like things got messy,like his hair was all messed up,
and I was like, if youdon't switch that out for or a better
wig anyway. Joscelyn Jocelyn is playedby Lily Rose Depp, who is Johnny
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Depp's daughter. Big up to you, Lily Rose, who not having teeth
like your dad. So, becausehave you seen have you seen Johnny Depp's
teeth close up? Girl? Whatis that from? Like cigarettes? I
mean it's just from life. Girl. He looked like he got some pebbles
outside my driveway and stuck him inhis in his mouth. He never got
rid of the Pirates of the Caribbean. I'm like, you know they be
(44:30):
having then you know you can getI know he first of all, this
this man owns islands, islands.He could go get himself a really nice
island girl. Anyway, So LilyRose Depp, she she plays Joscelyn.
Okay, so Joscelyn is this girlwho's like, yeah, I'm a pop
(44:52):
star and whatever. And then herecomes t Dross in his wig. But
the thing, as you mentioned,is that Jocelyn recently with her mom's death,
which is, you know, nomatter how old you are, is
going to completely upend your life andit's not something you get over. So
that's a lot of loss. Yeah, that's a lot of you know,
just feeling like, oh my god, I don't belong, I don't have
(45:13):
a parent. Like maybe she mightfeel orphaned in a way. Yeah,
I've never dealt with that. Shenever dealt with it. She's too busy,
like with her career, you know, she never had a moment to
just gree exactly. So there's likethis mom shaped hole in her life.
And then here comes T. Drossand his wig and you know, and
then she's like, oh, wellhe's cares about me. And essentially because
(45:36):
her mom is gone, and there'sthis huge sense of loss. Her mom
essentially serves as an attachment figure inour lives, whether we like our moms
or not. And so when thisattachment figure leaves, here comes T.
Dross and then he becomes her attachmentfigure. But the messed up part is
that he's just a really just grossperson, and this leads to her being
(45:59):
This leads to her seeking Tedros's approvaland I guess not I guess, but
the way that Tedros wants approve oror wants her to please him is to
objectify herself. Yeah, and soshe's like, sure, I'm a pop
star. Of course I'm going toobjectify myself and just be like overtly sexual.
And that's not bad in and ofitself. But when you objectify yourselves
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to that degree, then you endup with a sense of deep like you
do, like depersonalization, like you'rekind of like watching yourself doing these things,
and she's so at a loss thatit ends up also just making her
feel dehumanized. Then you throw likedrugs and substance abuse that she's actively engaged
(46:43):
in, and I would say,you end up with someone who definitely has
issues with depression. So let's saymajor depressive disorder and also substance abuse disorder.
And that's what I would diagnose JohnOne with. Yeah. So I
mean, here's what I'm gonna say. If you like shows about do you
(47:08):
know it's really salacious behavior, andapparently a lot of people do, this
is the show for you. LikeI said, I think I've just kind
of aged out of that. Iwhen I I guess was slightly younger liked
movies and shows like that, butnow I'm just kind of lying. I
don't I don't care, like,yeah, yeah, it's not my thing.
(47:30):
But if it's your thing, thenI hope you enjoyed it, and
if not, then you know,it's just trash to me. So anyway,
that's it for Pop Cultures Diagnosis.We're gonna have a non fun character
to analyze next week. So ifyou have any suggestions for fictional characters,
or if there's anybody else that you'dlike for me to diagnose that's fictional,
(47:51):
hit me up on Twitter at doctorUnderscore Emani and hit up Meg on Instagram
at Meg scoop, and you canalso email the show at Hello at doctor
Emani dot excuse me. You canalso email the show at Emani state of
mind dot com. And again ifyou're a hello at oh my bad,
let me just go right to theback to where I was. If you
(48:12):
have suggestions for fictional characters out therethat you would like for me to diagnose,
please hit me up on Twitter atdoctor Underscore Money, hit up Meg
at Meg scoop on Instagram, andemail the show at Hello Animanti, State
of Mind dot com. So andagain. If you're enjoying the show,
don't forget to rate and review uson your favorite podcast apps. So thank
you for listening to me Monty Stateof Mind, you guys, and thank
(48:35):
you to Meg for co hosting,and we will see you again next week.
Bye bye, hey,
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