That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework! That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Episodes

October 14, 2025 137 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover a two-part episode,“Closure” (Part I & II) (Season 1, Episode 10 & Season 2, Episode 3), and discuss the crimes of two different horrific rapists - Isaac Jones (a.k.a. "The Bronx Rapist") and Ronnie Shelton (a.k.a. "The West Side Rapist").

SOURCES:
United Press International
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
New York Daily News
New York Post 1
New York Pos...

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Today, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Rotten” (Season 4, Episode 13), analyze the grisly crimes of serial killer Manuel Pardo, and interview the legendary Terry Serpico.

SOURCES:
New York Daily News 1
New York Daily News 2
Wikipedia - Assault of Abner Louima
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
CNN
NBC News
Wikipedia - Manuel Pardo (serial killer)
Ask Men
The Huffington Post

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September 30, 2025 108 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Prima Nocta” (Season 25, Episode 11), discuss the case involving Jennifer Wilbanks (a.k.a. "The Runaway Bride"), and interview the lovely Elizabeth Paige.

SOURCES:
People
NBC News
CBS News
Wikipedia - Runaway bride case

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Black and Missing Foundation

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September 23, 2025 127 mins

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “All Pain Is One Malady” (Season 24, Episode 22), discuss the wild Michelle Hadley “Rape Fantasy” case, and interview the wonderful Kadia Saraf (Dexter: Resurrection).

SOURCES:
Manhattan DA
NBC News 1
NBC News 2
United States Attorney’s Office: Eastern District of California
U.S. Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General

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September 16, 2025 104 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Wannabe” (Season 11, Episode 23) and discuss the insane behavior of fake cop Vincent Richardson. 

SOURCES:
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
CBS News 3
WTTW
Fox 32 Chicago
WGN TV
Chicago Tribune
ENews Park Forest

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Fathers’ UpLift

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September 9, 2025 89 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Dare” (Season 19, Episode 16), the tragic death of former SVU actor Isabella Grasso, and the heinous details of Dr. Michael Mastromarino’s human tissue-stealing scheme.

SOURCES:
ABC7 New York
Newsday
Patch
NPR

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OrganDonor.gov

Next week’s episode will be “Wannabe” (Season 11, Episode 23). 

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September 2, 2025 116 mins

This week, Kara and Liza recap “In Loco Parentis” (Season 19, Episode 15), discuss the Nikki Yovino case, and interview the actress Ryann Shane (Banshee, Lights Out).

SOURCES:
6ABC
ABC7 New York
AP News
The Washington Times
BET
News Channel 9
Justia
State of Connecticut Judicial Branch

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Campus Sexual Violence Resource List

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August 26, 2025 133 mins

In this week’s episode, Liza and Kara tackle “Conned” (Season 11, Episode 19), discuss the outrageous crimes of con artist Christian Karl Gerhartsreiter, and interview the fabulous Ally Walker.

SOURCES:
Vanity Fair
CNN 1
CNN 2
ABC News
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
Wikipedia - Christian Gerhartsreiter
The Boston Globe
Los Angeles Times
Empowerment Ave.
People
Wikiped...

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August 19, 2025 130 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Street Revenge” (Season 13, Episode 19), discuss the Rain City Superhero Movement, and interview the wonderful Michael Rispoli.

SOURCES:
The Week
KUOW
RLSH Wiki
Slate
Wikipedia - SlutWalk
SlutWalk Peoria
The Escapist
The Fall of Phoenix Jones
CNN

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Responding to the Incel Ideology

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August 12, 2025 124 mins

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Shock Collar” (Season 26, Episode 20), investigate the disturbing case involving the YouTube channel FamilyOFive, and interview the delightful JJ Pyle. 

SOURCES:
Fox 29
People 1
People 2
Daily Voice
New York Magazine
Wikipedia - DaddyOFive
WTOP News
Starcasm
OfficialFamilyOFive.com

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
American Humane Society

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August 5, 2025 144 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap the wild episode “Wet” (Season 12, Episode 5), discuss the 1986 "Jack the Snipper" case in Los Angeles, and interview the magnificent David Krumholtz.

SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
United Press International 1
United Press International 2
SFGATE
Wikipedia - Cordelia Botkin
Kings River Life Magazine

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Teacher Wishlists

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July 29, 2025 112 mins

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “Trick-Rolled at the Moulin” (Season 22, Episode 13) and discuss the outrageous crimes committed by a group of exotic dancers at the Scores strip club in New York.

SOURCES:
WSB-TV 1
WSB-TV 2
Athens Banner-Herald
Fox 23
Fox 5 Atlanta
Marietta Daily Journal
Herald Gazette
The Cut
Time
Vulture
Entertainment Weekly

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July 22, 2025 106 mins

This week, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Betrayal's Climax” (Season 15, Episode 13), discuss the rape conviction of a Virginian MS-13 gang member, and interview the wonderful actor and filmmaker Fiona Robert.

SOURCES:

Richmond Times-Dispatch

United States Attorney’s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 1

United States Attorney’s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 2

Wikipedia - MS-13

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July 15, 2025 106 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Anchor” (Season 11, Episode 10), the offensive concept of “Anchor Babies,” and the horrific, racially motivated murder of Vincent Chin.

SOURCES:
Oxygen
The New York Times
New York Post
The University of New Mexico - Asian American Pacific Islander Resource Center
Justia
CNN
NBC News
MIT
Detroit Free Press
The Guardian

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July 8, 2025 136 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Liberties” (Season 10, Episode 21), discuss the tragic life of Steven Stayner, and interview the wonderful Jon Patrick Walker.

SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
CBS News
Hi-Desert Star
Billings Gazette
K2 Radio
People
Wikipedia - Steven Stayner
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The Spokesman-Review
Captive Audience: A Real American Horror Story
Wikiped...

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July 1, 2025 115 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Manhunt” (Season 2, Episode 18) and discuss two unbelievably horrific cases - the serial killers Leonard Lake & Charles Ng and the murdering pastor Gary M. Heidnik. 

SOURCES:
A & E
6 ABC
CNN
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The New York Times 5
Justia
Oxygen 1
Oxygen 2
SFGAT...

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June 24, 2025 121 mins

This week, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Nocturne” (Season 1, Episode 21), dissect the sex crimes of a Brooklyn middle school music teacher, and interview the iconic Wilson Jermaine Heredia (Rent).

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The Awareness Center

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Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles

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June 17, 2025 133 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss two SVU episodes “Man Up” and “Man Down” (Season 20, Episodes 1 & 2). They also cover multiple school shootings and interview the legendary Philip Winchester, otherwise known as ADA Peter Stone.

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The United States Attorney’s Office
WPSD
WKMS
Expert Institute
KFVS
CBS 12
...

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June 10, 2025 108 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Delinquent” (Season 12, Episode 23), discuss the horrifying murders of Canadian serial killer Cody Legebokoff, and interview the incredible Marina Squerciati (Chicago P.D.).

SOURCES:
The New York Times
New York Post
CBC
National Post
Wikipedia - Cody Legebokoff

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Making A Serial Killer

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This week, Kara and Liza cover two SVU episodes: “And the Empire Strikes Back” and “Never Turn Your Back on Them” (Season 23, Episodes 1 & 2). They also investigate the disgusting deeds of disgraced former Congressman Matt Gaetz and interview the incredibly charming Ben Rappaport (The Good Wife, Grosse Pointe Garden Society).

SOURCES:
The 19th News
NPR
ABC News
Axios
BBC
Legistorm
PB...

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Kara Klenk

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Liza Treyger

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