That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework! That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Episodes

July 29, 2025 112 mins

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “Trick-Rolled at the Moulin” (Season 22, Episode 13) and discuss the outrageous crimes committed by a group of exotic dancers at the Scores strip club in New York.

SOURCES:
WSB-TV 1
WSB-TV 2
Athens Banner-Herald
Fox 23
Fox 5 Atlanta
Marietta Daily Journal
Herald Gazette
The Cut
Time
Vulture
Entertainment Weekly

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This week, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Betrayal's Climax” (Season 15, Episode 13), discuss the rape conviction of a Virginian MS-13 gang member, and interview the wonderful actor and filmmaker Fiona Robert.

SOURCES:

Richmond Times-Dispatch

United States Attorney’s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 1

United States Attorney’s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 2

Wikipedia - MS-13

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July 15, 2025 106 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Anchor” (Season 11, Episode 10), the offensive concept of “Anchor Babies,” and the horrific, racially motivated murder of Vincent Chin.

SOURCES:
Oxygen
The New York Times
New York Post
The University of New Mexico - Asian American Pacific Islander Resource Center
Justia
CNN
NBC News
MIT
Detroit Free Press
The Guardian

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July 8, 2025 136 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Liberties” (Season 10, Episode 21), discuss the tragic life of Steven Stayner, and interview the wonderful Jon Patrick Walker.

SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
CBS News
Hi-Desert Star
Billings Gazette
K2 Radio
People
Wikipedia - Steven Stayner
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The Spokesman-Review
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July 1, 2025 115 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Manhunt” (Season 2, Episode 18) and discuss two unbelievably horrific cases - the serial killers Leonard Lake & Charles Ng and the murdering pastor Gary M. Heidnik. 

SOURCES:
A & E
6 ABC
CNN
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The New York Times 5
Justia
Oxygen 1
Oxygen 2
SFGAT...

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June 24, 2025 121 mins

This week, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Nocturne” (Season 1, Episode 21), dissect the sex crimes of a Brooklyn middle school music teacher, and interview the iconic Wilson Jermaine Heredia (Rent).

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The Awareness Center

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Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles

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June 17, 2025 133 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss two SVU episodes “Man Up” and “Man Down” (Season 20, Episodes 1 & 2). They also cover multiple school shootings and interview the legendary Philip Winchester, otherwise known as ADA Peter Stone.

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The United States Attorney’s Office
WPSD
WKMS
Expert Institute
KFVS
CBS 12
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June 10, 2025 108 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Delinquent” (Season 12, Episode 23), discuss the horrifying murders of Canadian serial killer Cody Legebokoff, and interview the incredible Marina Squerciati (Chicago P.D.).

SOURCES:
The New York Times
New York Post
CBC
National Post
Wikipedia - Cody Legebokoff

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This week, Kara and Liza cover two SVU episodes: “And the Empire Strikes Back” and “Never Turn Your Back on Them” (Season 23, Episodes 1 & 2). They also investigate the disgusting deeds of disgraced former Congressman Matt Gaetz and interview the incredibly charming Ben Rappaport (The Good Wife, Grosse Pointe Garden Society).

SOURCES:
The 19th News
NPR
ABC News
Axios
BBC
Legistorm
PB...

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May 27, 2025 140 mins

On this week’s episode, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU “Consent” (Season 2, Episode 10), dissect the horrible Sara Klein rape case at Brown University, and interview the fabulous Tammy Blanchard (The Invitation, Life with Judy Garland).

SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
Time
Feminist Majority Foundation
United States Department of Justice
Wikipedia - Death of Samantha Reid
The New York Times
The Brown...

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May 20, 2025 157 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Pandora” (Season 4, Episode 15), the abduction of Alicia Kozakiewicz by an online predator, and interview the fascinating William McNamara (Stealing Home, Copycat).

SOURCES:
CBS News
Mass.gov
Boston Herald
Boston.com
Los Angeles Times
CNN
Nevada Appeal
People
BBC
The Lancet
The Guardian
New York Post
BBC
Wikipedia - Operation Cathedral

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May 13, 2025 130 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Risk” (Season 4, Episode 12), discuss the wild crimes of corrupt NYPD officer Michael Dowd, and interview the delightful Erica Tazel (Justified, Lovecraft Country).

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
New York Post
Wikipedia - Michael Dowd (police officer)
New York Magazine

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May 6, 2025 118 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Closet” (Season 9, Episode 16), discuss the tragic life of professional soccer player Justin Fashanu, and interview the talented Bailey Chase (Saving Grace, Longmire).

SOURCES:
Britannica
BBC 1
BBC 2
The Guardian
Daily Mail
The Pink News
These Football Times

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LGBT National Coming Out Support Hotline

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April 29, 2025 123 mins

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Terrorized” (Season 18, Episode 1), dissect the unspeakably horrific Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, and interview the wonderful Tarek Bishara (The Tale, FBI: International).

SOURCES:
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Omar Mateen
ABC News
CNN
Wikipedia - Apple–FBI encryption dispute
Los Angeles Times
U.S. Attorney's Office, Central District of Ca...

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April 22, 2025 110 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss “Underbelly” (Season 8, Episode 7), the crimes of 'Pimp Of The Year' Matthew Thompkins, and interview the delightful Charlotte Ray Rosenberg (Little Manhattan, Sneaky Pete).

SOURCES:
New York Post
News Channel 10
Department of Justice
NJ.com
KUSA
SHERLOC
NBC News
Washington Post
United States District Court For The District Of Columbia

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April 15, 2025 104 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Brief Interlude” (Season 14, Episode 23), discuss the tragic Sarai Sierra case, and interview the legendary Kerry Butler (Hairspray, Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life).

SOURCES:
ABC News
The New York Times
New York Post
BBC
amNewYork

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15 tips for traveling alone as a woman

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April 8, 2025 127 mins

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Exile” (Season 20, Episode 6), discuss the bizarre disappearances of Hannah Upp, and interview the wonderful Aimée Spring Fortier (FBI).

SOURCES:
The New Yorker
The Virgin Islands Daily News
The New York Times

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The National Alliance to End Homelessness

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April 1, 2025 107 mins

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the worst-rated episode of SVU on IMDB, “Truth Embargo” (Season 25, Episode 2). They also dissect the trend of flash robberies at retail stores in major American cities and interview the delightful Keeley Miller (Elsbeth, FBI: Most Wanted).

SOURCES:
Deadline
Los Angeles Daily News
Daily Breeze
Yahoo
ABC 7

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March 25, 2025 126 mins

Today, Kara and Liza discuss “Spellbound” (Season 18, Episode 18), the disturbing crimes of lawyer/ hypnotist Michael Fine, and interview the wonderful Kristen Hager (Suits LA, Being Human).

SOURCES:
The New Yorker
The Virgin Islands Daily News
The New York Times

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Can Neurolinguistic Programming Really Transform Your Life?

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March 18, 2025 95 mins

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Hooked” (Season 6, Episode 15) and discuss the mysterious murder of actor Bob Crane.

SOURCES:
Time
Snopes
Wikipedia - Gel bracelet
Los Angeles Times
Wikipedia - United States v. X-Citement Video, Inc.

The New York Times
Entertainment Weekly
Wikipedia - Bob Crane
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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