That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework! That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Star-Struck Victims” (Season 17, Episode 16). They discuss the dozens of horrific rape allegations against Bill Cosby. And to cleanse the palate, they chat with the wonderful Craig Bierko.
SOURCES:
CNN
Action News 5
Yahoo
The Hollywood Reporter
Wikipedia - Bill Cosby sexual assault cases
Philadelphia Magazine
The Daily Beast
USA Today
The New York Times
Today, Liza and Kara tackle the classic SVU episode “Savant” (Season 9, Episode 4) and discuss the bizarre crimes of wife-murderer Jonathan Nyce.
SOURCES:
The New York Times
NBC News
The Reporter
NBC Philadelphia
American Veterinary Medical Association
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
Forensic Files Now
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Help Nelson and Ariel Through ICE Detention Crisis
Next week’...
This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Murdered at a Bad Address” (Season 21, Episode 6) and discuss the scandal surrounding corrupt cop Louis N. Scarcella. Plus, they interview the wonderful Happy Anderson.
SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The New York Times 5
Wikipedia - Louis Scarcella
KTLA
ABC 7
CBS News
6ABC
...
Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Devastating Story” (Season 16, Episode 18), investigate the retracted "A Rape on Campus" article published in Rolling Stone magazine, and chat with the delightful Ally Ioannides.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - 2007 De Anza College rape investigation
The Guardian
ABC 7 News
Wikipedia - A Rape on Campus
Washington Post
BBC
NPR 1
NPR 2
Rolling Stone
WTVR
This week, Kara and Liza recap a two-part episode, “American Dream” & “Sanctuary” (Season 18, Episodes 2 & 21). They discuss the real-life racially motivated murder by Adam Purinton. And to cap off the episode, they interview the fabulous Poorna Jagannathan.
SOURCES:
PBS
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
AL.com
Center for Immigration Studies
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Sho...
Today, Liza and Kara tackle the disturbing episode “Angels” (Season 4, Episode 6), NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association), and the horrific real-life work of psychologist and sexologist Helmut Kentler.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Helmut Kentler
The New Yorker
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The German Experiment That Placed Foster Children with Pedophiles by Rachel Aviv
Next week’s episode will be “Ame...
This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Motherly Love” (Season 18, Episode 10) and discuss the upsetting crimes of pedophile teacher Pamela Joan Rogers. Plus, they interview the delightful Sarah Wynter.
SOURCES:
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
NBC New York
ABC 7 New York
Spectrum News New York 1
New York Daily News 1
New York Daily News 2
Tennessee Sex Offender Registry
The Court Of ...
Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Venom” (Season 7, Episode 18), investigate the historic Raymond Levi Cobb case, and chat with the legendary Joe Grifasi.
SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
Office of the Solicitor General - U.S. Department of Justice
Vanishing Act: The Hunt for Margaret and Cory Ray
Wikipedia - Texas v. Cobb
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
DSA-LA Voter Guide
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This week, Kara and Liza recap the episode “Bound” (Season 5, Episode 23) and discuss two different murderers - Dorothea Puente (a.k.a. "The Death House Landlady") and Charles Cullen (a.k.a. "The Killer Nurse")
SOURCES:
World’s Most Evil Killers
CNN
The New York Times
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Capturing the Killer Nurse
Next week’s episode will be “Venom" (Season 7, Episode 18).
Today, Liza and Kara tackle the episode “Constricted” (Season 26, Episode 4) and the real-life issue of increasing numbers of youth sexual non-fatal (and fatal) strangulation cases. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the amazing Zak Orth.
SOURCES:
BBC 1
BBC 2
Psychology Today 1
Psychology Today 2
News Medical
Alliance for HOPE International
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
How to talk to kids about porn
Ne...
This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Mea Culpa” (Season 20, Episode 9) and discuss the infamous murder of Stanford White by Harry Kendall Thaw following the rape of Evelyn Nesbit. Plus, they interview the wonderful George Newbern.
SOURCES:
BBC
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Evelyn Nesbit
Library of Congress
Avenue Magazine
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Tragic Life of Evelyn Nesbi...
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “Recall” (Season 8, Episode 3) and investigate the horrific crimes and lack of justice involved with the case of serial rapist Melvin Carter (a.k.a. "The College Terrace Rapist").
SOURCES:
CNN
Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Orlando Sentinel
WIS News 10
The Seattle Times
Long Beach Press-Telegram
The Mercury News
The New York Times
SFGATE
13WHAM ABC R...
This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Redemption in Her Corner” (Season 21, Episode 13) and discuss the case involving Jamill Jones fatally one-punching Sandor Szabo.
SOURCES:
The New York State Senate 1
The New York State Senate 2
True Crime News
PIX11 News
ESPN
People
The News & Observer
Los Angeles Times
The New York Times
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
YWCA USA
Next week’s ep...
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Deadly Ambition” (Season 14, Episode 15) and the confounding Tracy Roberson case. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the iconic Carolyn McCormick.
SOURCES:
NBC News
ABC News
ABC7 Amarillo
Court Of Appeals Second District Of Texas Fort Worth
Fort Worth Star-Telegram
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Mental Health Coalition
Next week’s episode will be “Red...
This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Father Dearest” (Season 13, Episode 20) and discuss the real-life story of prolific sperm donor Ben Seisler. Plus, they interview the delightful Eric Close.
SOURCES:
Daily Mail
Salon
Wikipedia - Genetic sexual attraction
Wikipedia - Westermarck effect
ABC7
Time
Center for Genetics and Society
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Families Rising
Next week...
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the hockey-related episode “Great Expectations” (Season 18, Episode 11) and investigate the case of Thomas Junta murdering another hockey Dad at a children’s pickup game. Plus, they chat with the wonderful Lincoln Melcher.
SOURCES:
The New York Times
CNN
NBC Sports
Telegram & Gazette
CBS News
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Hockey Diversity Alliance
Next week’s ep...
This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Reasonable Doubt” (Season 15, Episode 22) and discuss the predatory history of the infamous film director Woody Allen. Plus, they have a wonderful conversation with the magnificent Bradley Whitford.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Woody Allen sexual abuse allegation
Vanity Fair 1
Vanity Fair 2
Vanity Fair 3
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
mosesfarrow.blogsp...
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Hothouse” (Season 10, Episode 12) and the disturbing real-life murder of teenager Kirsten Costas. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the wonderful Aya Cash (The Boys, You're the Worst).
SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
The New York Times
Time
United Press International
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
SAMHSA’s National Helpline
Next week’s episode will be “Rea...
This week, Liza and Kara go way back to season one to cover the episode, “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6). They also discuss the date rape case of Katie Koestner and her ongoing legacy. Plus, they interview the talented Lothaire Bluteau.
SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Murder of Jeanne Clery
Wikipedia - Katie Koestner
Time 1
Time 2
katiekoestner.com
The Flat Hat
BBC
The Daily Item
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Cold” (Season 9, Episode 19) and investigate the case of Gerard Schaefer a.k.a. "The Killer Cop." Plus, they chat with the prolific writer of this very SVU episode, the amazing Judith McCreary.
SOURCES:
ABC 13
The New York Times
Tampa Bay Times
Vidocq Society
Police1
CBS News
MinnPost
KIRO 7
Medium
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Vidocq Society
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Hosts And Creators
Kara Klenk
Liza Treyger