December 25, 2025 • 32 mins
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In this special episode of Mamamia, Jesse, Holly, and Amelia dive into their personal tarot readings with guest Evelyn. They explore their futures, hopes, and fears, and Evelyn shares her insights on their careers, relationships, and life paths. From Jesse's potential TV series to Holly's book and Amelia's baby on the way, the trio gets real about their desires and doubts. With Evelyn's guidance, they uncover hidden truths and gain a deeper understanding of their lives. This episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about tarot readings and personal growth.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, I'm Jesse Stevens. This summer, we've curated your out
Loud playlist and are bringing you some of our favorite
episodes so that your holiday listening is sorted. Today's episode
is a little treat for the festive season. We are
bringing you a very special subscriber episode where Holly, Amelia
(00:37):
and I sat down with Tarot card reader Evelyn for
our personal one on one sessions.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
This was one of the most talked.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
About episodes of the year. It turns out that she
had some pretty juicy things to say about babies, about books,
plus one of us drew the Devil card. We hope
you enjoy her predictions as much as we did, and
you may notice that some of them came true. Hello,
(01:06):
out Louders, had so much fun doing our taro session
with Evelyn.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
We got such good feedback from all of you.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
She had some amazing in science, but I have to
say some of it got pretty personal and that was
the point, so we wanted to save some of that
for more of a private conversation without subscribers. So, as
you heard on Friday's show, all three of us asked
some questions while we were in the room before we
did our one on ones, and so the others left
(01:35):
the room. There was just one producer and we got
to decide what stayed and what didn't. So first up,
here's a bit more of that group chat where Holly
and I both had questions about writing.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
This one is a professional question.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I write books.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Any of my books gonna get made into a TV
series or movie? So far they have not been, Evelyn,
they have not.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You won't really what Holly wants.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Let's see how my poker face is, shall we? Ok?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Did you concentrate? Oh? You picked very very strong cards
the chariot. It's like a war is going on here.
To get some connection going with these projects, yes, well
you will do it, but it's not on these shores.
Look at this, ah, the aid of Ones. This is
(02:29):
overseas and a departure. So Hollywood definitely not well, not Australia.
I don't know about Hollywood, but there's an there's another spot.
It's another country. It's another place.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Wow, that's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Oh I like those cards a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, and five of cups looks familiar to me. So
this is somewhere you've been before. So it's like a return.
Do you have a connection somewhere else?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I'm originally from England. You can probably tell them my accent, but.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I mean in you in terms of connections, professional connections.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Okay, I don't know, but that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I'm gonna ask just a really selfish one. Actually, that's
what I'm gonna do, Like how Holly asked about her book.
I have a book question, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But I'm gonna ask for your help, okay, because I
also write books, and I am contracted to write another
book and I don't have an idea okay. And my
word of the year is creativity. I've tried to be
really intentional about my creativity, but I would like some
guidance or direction about where I'm going to go, what
I should do with this project.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Oh, let's see what pops up.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
She's spreading, all right, here we go the world.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Wow, you are very confused. Ah the moon? Yes, yeah,
pick another two. Oh, okay, your cards are fantastic. It's
like you're bordering on two very different things that are
merging into one. One is all about the sentimental people's feelings,
how they feel about things. The other is social justice.
(04:02):
Are you going into Jesse. So there's a lot around that,
even politics. Are you thinking about politics?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, I think that everything that I've written, there's been
an element of like Holly's excited that I'm going into politic.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
There's an element of that.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I suppose that it's like everything that I write, it's like,
what good is it contributing to the world? Like I
don't just want to write? And this is the friction, right,
is that when you write fiction. I suppose you go
you want a good story, and you can write a good,
interesting story, but what's it trying to say?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's new?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And I'm finding a tension between both of those things.
Maybe so it's fiction.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, don't know yet.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Fiction?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh wow, No, I see this is a really hard
hitting issue and there's a lot around so, I mean,
it can be fiction, but it's definitely a hard hitting issue,
a lot on social justice with a very tight political angle.
That's what I'm asking you. You're going into pology.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
This makes sense, not that you're going into politics by
sense me, but you are increasingly wrestling with like what
does this all mean? What good are we doing? Like
lots of things in our life like you are increasingly
so that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I'm definitely thinking bigger, but the.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Moon you're still in your caterpillar phase. Oh yeah, give
it a little time. You've still got a few months
to kind of hash out this idea. But this is
where you're heading.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, all right, I like that a lot actually, So
one more shuffle from Jesse Stevens, Politician in the Maker.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
My final question is about my sister. We used to
work together and I'm wondering if we'll ever work together again.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, what that might look like. So, see, as she's
here on her own, she needs the space to do
something by herself. She needs the time to separate and
then come together later. But it's going to take a
long time by the time she does, and she's actually
going to do very very well. The card of Strength
is fantastic. So there's a lot going on for her.
(05:54):
But she really needs this self realization by herself at
this time. See this God, Yeah, yeah, say some independence, yes,
to kind of prove to herself that she can do
things on her own. Yeah right, yeah, that very very true.
But she will come back and the two of you
will do something together, maybe as a side thing. It's
not going to be working together in the way that
(06:16):
you've done before. But there is something that you'll collaborate on.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Okay, that's this that makes me.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I'm happy with that ask.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Your turn a MILLI out. What do you want to ask?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Okay, so my question is about Mark Zuckerberg. Me and
I have kind of like been intertwined. He doesn't know
we've been intertwined, but we have in various ways been
intertwined since the founding of Facebook back in two thousand
and four. What I'd like to know is am I
ever going to meet him again?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Okay? That question totally makes it sound like you hooked up,
but it's not. That's not the case. That's not the case.
I'm telling that more for the out loud benefit of
the avelen's benefit.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Difficult, but you will have something to do with him
and his people, but not directly, so that's competition, competition
for his time, his energy. But there is connection, King
of wands, and it's something professional whether you make a
connection on some information that you need or something like that.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
And doesn't mean I could get a job.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It matter because I'm available. You could, but it just
means that you'd never really get too close to him. Okay, yeah,
I'm happy with they entourage, yes, but not here You've
got It's totally fine.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Last last what have you got?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I'm in media, which is an industry that's very fraught
and which my maybe becoming more fraught. And I do
a couple of different things in media, and I'm curious
to know whether or not I will ever find like
a single niche in media or am I destined to
(07:53):
always be juggling lots of things?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
She got the first card.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, you definitely will on your niche and it's very soon,
it won't be too far away. There's something here, So
there's something in somebody else's loss, or it's what they
don't want to do. It's like you fill in the
gaps and that has made it clear for you and
what you do like and what you don't like, and
(08:24):
so that will become clear on what it is you're
going to follow. And the world is fantastic. It actually
means a great opportunity that you will be offered three
of pentacles. It's actually something that you have been waiting
for for quite some time. But the aid of cups
means that you haven't really envisioned this for you, so
it will be quite a surprise. It's not something that
(08:45):
you will expect. If these cars had come out in
this way, it would be like, Yes, that was what
I was manifesting. It's what I thought, it's what I wanted.
But because it's come out like this, with the World,
the Aid of Cups and the Three of Pentacles, it
almost comes out out of the blue. It was always there,
but right staring at you in the face. But it's
(09:05):
like you haven't really wow, thought of it. Oh, I'm
so happy, Thank you the world?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Is that all right?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think it's time for our one on one sessions, Holly.
We're gonna head out now so that Amelia can get
her reading done with Evelyn.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
So, Evelyn, I'm the first up for a reading. I've
never done one of these before. You've asked me to
shuffle the cards, and you've asked me for my birthdate,
which I told you, So what happens now?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So now what we do is we'll do a general reading,
and so we pick ten cards. You'll pick ten cards.
We'll see what pops up in your general Usually it's
what you really need to know, and then if there's
anything else you'd like to know. Then we do specific questions.
That's how i'd usually go through a reading for someone.
You're very brave doing this in front of everyone, since
(09:50):
you've never done this before. This is great, Amelia.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I have one big, big quandary in my life which
is not really very personal, so that's why I'm happy
to do this. I'm hoping that you can shed some
light on that for me.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Let's have a look, so we'll just do you want
to spread the yeah, and just pick ten from anywhere
and I'll lay them out here. I'm just placing the
cards into position. So what we're doing is forming what's
called a Celtic cross for the general reading, and that's
ten cards, so almost there. Just one more there we go. Okay,
(10:24):
Five of Pentacles and the Night of Swords. So these
two cards show something more to do around finances. And
the Five of Pentacles is a fear. So it's a
fear of money going where you want it to go,
not that you won't have enough, but that you're directing
it in the right way and investing in the right
way or putting it to good use. And that might
even be enjoying your money. So whether it's travel that
(10:48):
sort of thing. The Night of Swords shows me someone
that is on the same page with their partner when
it comes to this, and there will be a renewed
sense of financial security in the next four to five months,
particularly on your partner's side. So there's going to be
something fantastic that comes through there.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
It's just so interesting because everyone this morning, I got
on the bus and thought I need a financial planner.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I literally thought that this one.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
It popped into my head.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
There you go. Yeah, so when you do go for
your financial planner, the Five of Pentacles shows me that
there's that fear is there, so make sure you really
research the right one. So the two of you might
need to go along for that one. Okay, Okay, so
let's see what pops up there. Okay, work is fantastic
for you. So there is great opportunities coming Aid of
(11:41):
Pentacles and the Queen of Pentacles. The Aid of Pentacles
shows me that the next few months for you are
going to be extremely busy, but very fruitful. There will
be connections with different people, people you haven't met before
that will come through with different information that will start
to put the pieces of the puzzle together for you.
In terms of what you want to do in the future,
and the Queen of Pentacles is all about balance, So
(12:04):
not only are you going to be focused on work,
but also the other areas of your life. There is
an increased interest in your health in particular, so this
will be around November. You're going to really start to
stick to a better regime around sleep rest, so it's
not so much about eating and exercising, it's more about
(12:24):
the switching off. Does that make sense? Okay, So in
this position, it's around November, which is where you'll start
to put things into place and that will carry through
for the next eighteen months. It's great when it comes
to finances. I do see things really taking off for
you for those next eighteen months. Okay. There is a
shift here to overseas and that will be at the
(12:47):
end of next year. The Nine of Cups and the
Seven of Swords shows an alignment between the two of you.
So this is your love see the Nine of Cups,
that's your other half and it shows opportunities for that
person also overseas. The Seven of Swords shows some uncomfortable
truths when it comes to logistics. Saw the way things
(13:08):
are done or if there's a little bit of a
time of separation where one goes at one time and
the other one joins two months later. But it's a
short window. It doesn't take a year, but you will
need that time apart. But it looks fantastic, So it's
very good at the moment. This is you in your
at your present. You are very strong, You're doing many
(13:29):
things at once, and you need to.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Look after your health.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Okay, are you feeling a little run down?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Not really?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay, So this is the Queen of Ones is an
extremely strong woman, very loyal, the rock that everybody depends on.
But sometimes when this card makes an appearance in the present,
she's the one that forgets herself because she's there for
everyone else. So in this position, it can be that
you really need to start to take care of yourself.
And that might be the catalyst of why I see
(13:56):
this in November of I need to rest, I need
to switch off, take a break at certain times. Am
I just mean going to bed a bit earlier for
your night?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Ol?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
A little bit?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, Okay, I do see here. A strong need to
be with family. Extended family is your family close by? Yeah? Yeah,
so there's going to be more times with them. Good.
Do we have questions?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah, I just want to know if I'll ever feel
like I'm at home, like I will have found my home.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So I'll just get you to sha follow a little
and we'll pick five. You are do you to go
somewhere else, but you will return here. This is your home, okay,
But you have a project that you must complete somewhere else.
That's these two very lucrative. It's fantastic. You will grow
so much professionally, and you will also be a guide
(14:48):
to others. That's the night of pentacles.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So there's a part of your career where you will learn,
but you're also imparting a lot of knowledge onto others,
and then you will return. Look at you here staying,
so I do see that this will be your spot.
You will feel like this is your spot after a while.
But there's still there's something in you that's itching because
you know inside that you need to do something else.
(15:11):
It's not here, not yet. Very similar to what I
saw in Holly's cards when it came to her project
being overseas. But that's a project for you. It's physically overseas.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yeah, and that ties in with the cards that you
had about logistics, and.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So it'll be a time, but ultimately you come back
to Australia.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, the two of you together see the ten of cups.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Well, I ever buy a house in Sydney.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
A lot of swords there, No are you? Are you
looking at buying somewhere else?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
We own a house in the US.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And somewhere outside of Sydney because it is close to Sydney,
but not Sydney. Sydney. Oh interesting, Okay, so there might
be something there which later will turn out to be
a very good investment for you. So it might be
that Sydney's a little while off.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, and that's the same card that you said we're
closely aligned.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yes, yeah, so there's an investment happening within Sydney, it's
just not far. That's this card. You may end up
owning in city, but not right now. You will, however,
buy something just outside of Sydney or not far.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Nice. Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
That's okay, all right, Evelyn, I am ready for my turn.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, so we'll do your general Yeah, and this is
ten cards from anywhere, Okay, Okay, let's see what comes
up in the first two, Oh, this is great. Okay.
Two of penty calls ten of pentacalls the family dynamic.
I may have mentioned this before, but it's moved up
(16:44):
in its rotation. A baby. I'm hoping so very soon,
very very soon, there's a little one that will make
an appearance. Male vibes are coming there. He is look
page of cups the baby. So it's very very strong
here and it's showing me that there's also a departure.
(17:05):
So there's going to be a travel here. So there's
going to be some sort of are you going away? Yes,
very busy spot. Two of one's there's a lot of movements,
so it's not a relaxing is that for work? It's
not a relaxing spot.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I have one coming up that's for work, one trip
for work, and then I have one that's like a
family trip.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Okay, the family trip is it feels like you're going
to a buzzy city type of place because it's like
a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's I think we're spending one night somewhere that's a
bit buzzy and then somewhere a bit quiet.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Okay, yeah, so baby will come around, maybe there'll be
news a couple of months after that or a month
after that. Because of the way that these cards have
laid out here, there are three cards dedicated to addition
to the family. It's like the universe really wants you
to know that there's a baby coming.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And so you're getting boy vibes boy vibes. So not
only does a universe want you to know, but the
out louder is tonight there's a little one coming along.
The next two cards are to do with.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
The way that you're dealing with a lot of commotion
around you. So the nine of ones shows some really
hard things. So whether there's a lot of difficult issues
happening around your life at the moment, or the workplace,
sentimental things, things going on with coworkers maybe, or things
like that, and you being a voice of reason, the
(18:28):
hero fant and really helping people getting through things, but
also learning from that as well. A lot of that
will also feed into what you will put into your
projects moving forward and may even help with that project
that we talked about earlier.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, that definitely rings true. Definitely, I can be
very I can probably be very stubborn with certain things.
Speaking my mind a little bit more that Yeah, that
rings true. Oh, very good, but it's in an actually
it's a very healthy way. I see this as growth.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I see it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's going to be great for you and the people
around you. And then the way that you put that
into this new project is fantastic. Yes, it's going to
help others. That's the hero fan interesting. Hm, Okay, let's
look at these two. Okay, the final two cards are fantastic.
So this also shows me again that drive for the
(19:22):
social justice that's in you. It's like you're really needing
to get out there and do something to better the world,
or needing to find this peace or finding that society
needs to come together and find some sort of harmony.
Are you sure you're not going into some sort of
civic I mean maybe not politics, but some sort of
(19:42):
organization or a way that you're going to channel this
feeling that you have to really try to make the
world a better place, because it's very prominent in your cards.
Since having learn especially, it's like maybe a deeper search
for meaning. And I spoke to a career coach not
long ago about how you decide what you do because
(20:04):
I do this, but then I've got other projects and
it's like, how do I decide to do what to
do based on my values?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
What happens when my values conflict? What happens when my
time is finite? Like, all of that has just been recalibrated,
and I think Sin's having lunar Yeah, definitely faced with
harder decisions and doing more soul searching.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
The position these are in. You may find that you
have more information on that because there is action here,
but that's late next year.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Interesting. Okay, all right, I like those cards.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I guess my other question is what is the best
path forward? At the moment, I'm definitely at a crossroads with, like,
you know, lots of things going on and trying to
maybe control the uncontrollable and get my head around the
next few years. So I suppose it's a question about, yes,
what is.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
The best path forward? What would the cards recommend?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Okay, your path is definitely the one of love and family.
There's a lot of faith here, so you have a
very strong faith foundation to have cups based in love
and love of family, love of connection. So it's not
so much in terms of religion, but it is. You're
quite a spiritual person too, so holding on to that Yep,
(21:17):
that's the number one path. The baby comes through again,
page of cups. The little boy see the next two
cards shows me that to really feel safe in your power.
The Emperor shows someone who is powerful, very comfortable in
their skin when it comes to leadership and not shying
away from that. So taking that on and being happy
(21:41):
with the task that the world has given you, yep, yeah,
of being at natural leader, of charging forward. And I
mean you're still learning, but you're also imparting a lot
of your knowledge too. So it's actually a really good
card to have very positive ones.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Okay, good, good, That makes me very happy. All Right, Holly,
it's your turn.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
You have shuffled, So am I just spreading or am
I shuffling too?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Get you to shuffle so they have your energy and
then we just pick ten interesting. Okay, So your first
two cards are all about your energy at the moment.
And sometimes it feels like you're on a bit of
a hamster wheel. You're doing a lot and feeling like
you're not getting what you want out of things, particularly work.
It's like you're feeling like you're in a rut. And
(22:30):
so that's nine of one's. Nine of ones usually means
that you're very, very, very busy for no reason.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
However, the five of Pentacles.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I'm very busy for no reason reason, So it could
be she was very busy for no reason.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
So the five of Pentacles shows that there'll be a
lot being done, so you'll feel like, well, all of
this busyness that I have going on, I'm actually seeing
something come out of it. So for the last year
or the last few months, it may have been that
you're just being pulled every which way and you're left
with that sense of why, what's happened? Why am I
on the handster wheel? Or what have I produced?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So what I do see five appentacles is that in
the next three to four months, you will start to
see the fruits of your labor.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Okay, interesting, that's good to know.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Oh the devil, Oh shit, okay, the devil makes got
the devil? Yes, the devil sometimes in this position makes
an appearance when there are feelings of envy or jealousy
around things and need to be cleared out.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
We just talked about jealousy on the show, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Last week, So this can mean others being envious of youws.
So it might be that you have something that others
will say, Oh, well, isn't that something that I would love?
Whether it's your sense of humor, the way that you
connect to people, your relationship, your job, that sort of thing.
That's something that's quite present in the first flour, and
(24:10):
it's energy that needs to be cleared. It's unhealthy. I'm
not sure if that's you feeling the envy or the jealousy,
but usually admits feelings that others.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Have towards you. It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, the hanged man is yes, why am my card
so sad? The hanged man is a call to your health?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So it could be a change in your routine. It
could be something that you need to cut out of
your diet or something that you're taking that needs to stop.
Oh okay, yes, so something a little drastic. It's not
a difficult thing. It's very simple. It's that immediacy that's
needed and it needs to stop. So, whether it's sugar,
whether it's wheat, whether it's I need to stop having coffee.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That's crazy because I literally I've just had a lot
of blood tests done and stuff because I've been having
all these gut problems and they're gonna tell me, I'm
gonna have to cut something fun out of my diet.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
They but the good thing is Holly, is that it's
nothing serious. It's a very simple fix. But you have
to cut this out now.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Okay, okay, interesting what is it that you like? I
don't know. I actually eat really healthily, but I'm having
all these gut problems lately.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It must be something that's causing one particular bit of irritation.
It's very easy. It's a simple thing. It's a simple solution.
But you're going to have to stick to this, all right,
lifestyle change. Yeah. I know, I said no bad news, but.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Shit, I was feeling so relaxed coming in here and blends.
You lulled me into a false security.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
But some good things happening. Okay, So the cards here
do show this is nice. So this does show a trip.
So I do see you going away. It's a lovely trip.
It's like somewhere new that you haven't been before. Oh okay, yeah,
so it's like the page of cups and the five
of cups. Here is you're going somewhere familiar and then
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jumping off to somewhere you.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Haven't been before. Woh, that's exciting.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Is that in the next six months, because the cards
here show me a six month timeline.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
There's a bit of travel plan for next year, hopefully
for good reasons. My family live overseas, so you know.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But yeah, hoanefully and then jumping off to somewhere you
haven't been while you're visiting family.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, work is going to be very, very very busy. Yes,
it sometimes feels.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Like get any busier, Evelynn, that's the question.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Look very very busy. It's like you're here twenty four
to seven Great Or of Pentacles. However, very good things.
Six of Swords means the turbulence is behind you, smooth
sailing ahead. So in the busyness you do find the
solutions you need to move forward in the projects that
you're working on. And the Six of Swords shows that
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the right people will make an appearance around March or
April next year. Oh okay, to push something that you
have that you've been sitting on for some time, maybe
two years, and push it forward and finally that's kind
of birthed at that time.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Oh, that's exciting.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Does that make sense to you.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
To do with the books?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
The books? Yeah, it's something you've done on your own. Yes, well,
something that you've sat on your own for many hours,
that's this here, and had to go through that process
by yourself. But even the lived experience was something that
could have been very lonely. Is that what your books
are about.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's not what they're about, but the process of them
is lonely. That's one of the things that makes them
hard to do is it requires a lot of separating
yourself and being alone. And sometimes that doesn't feel great. Okay,
you know, yeah, like you like it, but you don't
like it the process, yes, yeah, because it is a
very self focused process and also a lot of pressure
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on you, so a lot of time that you're taken
away from people. So yeah, maybe, But I love doing it,
and I love the outcome and I love the fulfillment.
But it is a lonely it's a lonely game.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well, I do see that that's going to be something
that is behind you, and it's quite quite a successful venture.
The last card, I'll just get you to pick one
more for me. Do you have a son?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Oh? Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And is he off on his adventures?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
He's only thirteen, Okay, he's always on an adventure up here.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
He's very Yeah, he will have many adventures. He's already
thinking about travel as well, and I see him traveling
quite a bit. Is he a water sign? Cancirian Pi?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Hold on, what is Billy? He is the third of
June Gemini.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But his cards show up like a very very much
watery sign. So very intuitive. M he really re people
very easily. He can see them coming a mile away.
So very very good at that. Very creative, oh, massively creative.
He'll do very very well in his life. So in
your general reading, that's something that the universe wanted you
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to know, is that your son will do very well.
But he will travel to many lens.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Oh that makes me so happy.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yes, Oh that's great boy. What's his name?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Billy?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Billy very nice, a horse, a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yes. So something I'd love to know is in the
last few years, made a lot of changes in our lives.
Like we've changed where we live, I've changed my pattern
of work, you know, lots of quite big changes, and
I kind of want to just know, like if we're
on the right track.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh, Holly, the sun you were always meant to be here.
Look at this you're definitely following your intuition and you're
on the right path one hundred percent. You've done the
right thing for your entire family, including your is it
your husband, yeah, thre three cup or partner yeap? So absolutely?
(30:17):
Oh good, three of cups. That's wonderful. It was a
great change for you. It might have been a little
difficult in the beginning, but things are really it's like
where you're meant to be, and you were always meant
to be here the sun, the lovers, it shows that
there are many options that were given to you, but
you picked the right options. So the lover's card is
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many boyfriend, he was the right fool. It just means
that there was a lot. So the lover is usually
in this context means that many doors would have been
open to you, but you walk through the one that
was the right one for you, your and your family.
There'll be many other things that will be opened. So
there'll be other things that three of ones that will
be given to you in terms of opportunities, information, things
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that you will grow with, so that three of on's
some will not be here and that's the ace of swords,
but you will return here. That's interesting Yeah, it may
be that it's a success overseas, but you were here
the sun, this is your place.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, out Louders, we loved having Evelyn in.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
It was such an interesting afternoon.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I cannot wait to hold on to this episode and
revisit it in the future and see whether her predictions
have come true.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I'd love to know.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Out Louders, please keep sharing your stories of Tarot card
readers and things that have come true. They have blown
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Speaker 3 (31:55):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, I'm Jesse Stevens. This summer, we've curated your out
Loud playlist and are bringing you some of our favorite
episodes so that your holiday listening is sorted. Today's episode
is a little treat for the festive season. We are
bringing you a very special subscriber episode where Holly, Amelia
(00:37):
and I sat down with Tarot card reader Evelyn for
our personal one on one sessions.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
This was one of the most talked.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
About episodes of the year. It turns out that she
had some pretty juicy things to say about babies, about books,
plus one of us drew the Devil card. We hope
you enjoy her predictions as much as we did, and
you may notice that some of them came true. Hello,
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out Louders, had so much fun doing our taro session
with Evelyn.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
We got such good feedback from all of you.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
She had some amazing in science, but I have to
say some of it got pretty personal and that was
the point, so we wanted to save some of that
for more of a private conversation without subscribers. So, as
you heard on Friday's show, all three of us asked
some questions while we were in the room before we
did our one on ones, and so the others left
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the room. There was just one producer and we got
to decide what stayed and what didn't. So first up,
here's a bit more of that group chat where Holly
and I both had questions about writing.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
This one is a professional question.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I write books.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Any of my books gonna get made into a TV
series or movie? So far they have not been, Evelyn,
they have not.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You won't really what Holly wants.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Let's see how my poker face is, shall we? Ok?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Did you concentrate? Oh? You picked very very strong cards
the chariot. It's like a war is going on here.
To get some connection going with these projects, yes, well
you will do it, but it's not on these shores.
Look at this, ah, the aid of Ones. This is
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overseas and a departure. So Hollywood definitely not well, not Australia.
I don't know about Hollywood, but there's an there's another spot.
It's another country. It's another place.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Wow, that's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Oh I like those cards a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, and five of cups looks familiar to me. So
this is somewhere you've been before. So it's like a return.
Do you have a connection somewhere else?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I'm originally from England. You can probably tell them my accent, but.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I mean in you in terms of connections, professional connections.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Okay, I don't know, but that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I'm gonna ask just a really selfish one. Actually, that's
what I'm gonna do, Like how Holly asked about her book.
I have a book question, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But I'm gonna ask for your help, okay, because I
also write books, and I am contracted to write another
book and I don't have an idea okay. And my
word of the year is creativity. I've tried to be
really intentional about my creativity, but I would like some
guidance or direction about where I'm going to go, what
I should do with this project.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Oh, let's see what pops up.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
She's spreading, all right, here we go the world.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Wow, you are very confused. Ah the moon? Yes, yeah,
pick another two. Oh, okay, your cards are fantastic. It's
like you're bordering on two very different things that are
merging into one. One is all about the sentimental people's feelings,
how they feel about things. The other is social justice.
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Are you going into Jesse. So there's a lot around that,
even politics. Are you thinking about politics?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, I think that everything that I've written, there's been
an element of like Holly's excited that I'm going into politic.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
There's an element of that.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I suppose that it's like everything that I write, it's like,
what good is it contributing to the world? Like I
don't just want to write? And this is the friction, right,
is that when you write fiction. I suppose you go
you want a good story, and you can write a good,
interesting story, but what's it trying to say?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's new?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And I'm finding a tension between both of those things.
Maybe so it's fiction.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, don't know yet.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Fiction?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh wow, No, I see this is a really hard
hitting issue and there's a lot around so, I mean,
it can be fiction, but it's definitely a hard hitting issue,
a lot on social justice with a very tight political angle.
That's what I'm asking you. You're going into pology.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
This makes sense, not that you're going into politics by
sense me, but you are increasingly wrestling with like what
does this all mean? What good are we doing? Like
lots of things in our life like you are increasingly
so that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I'm definitely thinking bigger, but the.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Moon you're still in your caterpillar phase. Oh yeah, give
it a little time. You've still got a few months
to kind of hash out this idea. But this is
where you're heading.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, all right, I like that a lot actually, So
one more shuffle from Jesse Stevens, Politician in the Maker.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
My final question is about my sister. We used to
work together and I'm wondering if we'll ever work together again.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, what that might look like. So, see, as she's
here on her own, she needs the space to do
something by herself. She needs the time to separate and
then come together later. But it's going to take a
long time by the time she does, and she's actually
going to do very very well. The card of Strength
is fantastic. So there's a lot going on for her.
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But she really needs this self realization by herself at
this time. See this God, Yeah, yeah, say some independence, yes,
to kind of prove to herself that she can do
things on her own. Yeah right, yeah, that very very true.
But she will come back and the two of you
will do something together, maybe as a side thing. It's
not going to be working together in the way that
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you've done before. But there is something that you'll collaborate on.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Okay, that's this that makes me.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I'm happy with that ask.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Your turn a MILLI out. What do you want to ask?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Okay, so my question is about Mark Zuckerberg. Me and
I have kind of like been intertwined. He doesn't know
we've been intertwined, but we have in various ways been
intertwined since the founding of Facebook back in two thousand
and four. What I'd like to know is am I
ever going to meet him again?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Okay? That question totally makes it sound like you hooked up,
but it's not. That's not the case. That's not the case.
I'm telling that more for the out loud benefit of
the avelen's benefit.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Difficult, but you will have something to do with him
and his people, but not directly, so that's competition, competition
for his time, his energy. But there is connection, King
of wands, and it's something professional whether you make a
connection on some information that you need or something like that.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
And doesn't mean I could get a job.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It matter because I'm available. You could, but it just
means that you'd never really get too close to him. Okay, yeah,
I'm happy with they entourage, yes, but not here You've
got It's totally fine.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Last last what have you got?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I'm in media, which is an industry that's very fraught
and which my maybe becoming more fraught. And I do
a couple of different things in media, and I'm curious
to know whether or not I will ever find like
a single niche in media or am I destined to
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always be juggling lots of things?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
She got the first card.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, you definitely will on your niche and it's very soon,
it won't be too far away. There's something here, So
there's something in somebody else's loss, or it's what they
don't want to do. It's like you fill in the
gaps and that has made it clear for you and
what you do like and what you don't like, and
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so that will become clear on what it is you're
going to follow. And the world is fantastic. It actually
means a great opportunity that you will be offered three
of pentacles. It's actually something that you have been waiting
for for quite some time. But the aid of cups
means that you haven't really envisioned this for you, so
it will be quite a surprise. It's not something that
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you will expect. If these cars had come out in
this way, it would be like, Yes, that was what
I was manifesting. It's what I thought, it's what I wanted.
But because it's come out like this, with the World,
the Aid of Cups and the Three of Pentacles, it
almost comes out out of the blue. It was always there,
but right staring at you in the face. But it's
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like you haven't really wow, thought of it. Oh, I'm
so happy, Thank you the world?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Is that all right?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think it's time for our one on one sessions, Holly.
We're gonna head out now so that Amelia can get
her reading done with Evelyn.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
So, Evelyn, I'm the first up for a reading. I've
never done one of these before. You've asked me to
shuffle the cards, and you've asked me for my birthdate,
which I told you, So what happens now?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So now what we do is we'll do a general reading,
and so we pick ten cards. You'll pick ten cards.
We'll see what pops up in your general Usually it's
what you really need to know, and then if there's
anything else you'd like to know. Then we do specific questions.
That's how i'd usually go through a reading for someone.
You're very brave doing this in front of everyone, since
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you've never done this before. This is great, Amelia.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I have one big, big quandary in my life which
is not really very personal, so that's why I'm happy
to do this. I'm hoping that you can shed some
light on that for me.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Let's have a look, so we'll just do you want
to spread the yeah, and just pick ten from anywhere
and I'll lay them out here. I'm just placing the
cards into position. So what we're doing is forming what's
called a Celtic cross for the general reading, and that's
ten cards, so almost there. Just one more there we go. Okay,
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Five of Pentacles and the Night of Swords. So these
two cards show something more to do around finances. And
the Five of Pentacles is a fear. So it's a
fear of money going where you want it to go,
not that you won't have enough, but that you're directing
it in the right way and investing in the right
way or putting it to good use. And that might
even be enjoying your money. So whether it's travel that
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sort of thing. The Night of Swords shows me someone
that is on the same page with their partner when
it comes to this, and there will be a renewed
sense of financial security in the next four to five months,
particularly on your partner's side. So there's going to be
something fantastic that comes through there.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
It's just so interesting because everyone this morning, I got
on the bus and thought I need a financial planner.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I literally thought that this one.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
It popped into my head.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
There you go. Yeah, so when you do go for
your financial planner, the Five of Pentacles shows me that
there's that fear is there, so make sure you really
research the right one. So the two of you might
need to go along for that one. Okay, Okay, so
let's see what pops up there. Okay, work is fantastic
for you. So there is great opportunities coming Aid of
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Pentacles and the Queen of Pentacles. The Aid of Pentacles
shows me that the next few months for you are
going to be extremely busy, but very fruitful. There will
be connections with different people, people you haven't met before
that will come through with different information that will start
to put the pieces of the puzzle together for you.
In terms of what you want to do in the future,
and the Queen of Pentacles is all about balance, So
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not only are you going to be focused on work,
but also the other areas of your life. There is
an increased interest in your health in particular, so this
will be around November. You're going to really start to
stick to a better regime around sleep rest, so it's
not so much about eating and exercising, it's more about
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the switching off. Does that make sense? Okay, So in
this position, it's around November, which is where you'll start
to put things into place and that will carry through
for the next eighteen months. It's great when it comes
to finances. I do see things really taking off for
you for those next eighteen months. Okay. There is a
shift here to overseas and that will be at the
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end of next year. The Nine of Cups and the
Seven of Swords shows an alignment between the two of you.
So this is your love see the Nine of Cups,
that's your other half and it shows opportunities for that
person also overseas. The Seven of Swords shows some uncomfortable
truths when it comes to logistics. Saw the way things
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are done or if there's a little bit of a
time of separation where one goes at one time and
the other one joins two months later. But it's a
short window. It doesn't take a year, but you will
need that time apart. But it looks fantastic, So it's
very good at the moment. This is you in your
at your present. You are very strong, You're doing many
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things at once, and you need to.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Look after your health.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Okay, are you feeling a little run down?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Not really?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay, So this is the Queen of Ones is an
extremely strong woman, very loyal, the rock that everybody depends on.
But sometimes when this card makes an appearance in the present,
she's the one that forgets herself because she's there for
everyone else. So in this position, it can be that
you really need to start to take care of yourself.
And that might be the catalyst of why I see
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this in November of I need to rest, I need
to switch off, take a break at certain times. Am
I just mean going to bed a bit earlier for
your night?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Ol?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
A little bit?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, Okay, I do see here. A strong need to
be with family. Extended family is your family close by? Yeah? Yeah,
so there's going to be more times with them. Good.
Do we have questions?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah, I just want to know if I'll ever feel
like I'm at home, like I will have found my home.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So I'll just get you to sha follow a little
and we'll pick five. You are do you to go
somewhere else, but you will return here. This is your home, okay,
But you have a project that you must complete somewhere else.
That's these two very lucrative. It's fantastic. You will grow
so much professionally, and you will also be a guide
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to others. That's the night of pentacles.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So there's a part of your career where you will learn,
but you're also imparting a lot of knowledge onto others,
and then you will return. Look at you here staying,
so I do see that this will be your spot.
You will feel like this is your spot after a while.
But there's still there's something in you that's itching because
you know inside that you need to do something else.
(15:11):
It's not here, not yet. Very similar to what I
saw in Holly's cards when it came to her project
being overseas. But that's a project for you. It's physically overseas.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yeah, and that ties in with the cards that you
had about logistics, and.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So it'll be a time, but ultimately you come back
to Australia.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, the two of you together see the ten of cups.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Well, I ever buy a house in Sydney.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
A lot of swords there, No are you? Are you
looking at buying somewhere else?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
We own a house in the US.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And somewhere outside of Sydney because it is close to Sydney,
but not Sydney. Sydney. Oh interesting, Okay, so there might
be something there which later will turn out to be
a very good investment for you. So it might be
that Sydney's a little while off.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, and that's the same card that you said we're
closely aligned.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yes, yeah, so there's an investment happening within Sydney, it's
just not far. That's this card. You may end up
owning in city, but not right now. You will, however,
buy something just outside of Sydney or not far.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Nice. Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
That's okay, all right, Evelyn, I am ready for my turn.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, so we'll do your general Yeah, and this is
ten cards from anywhere, Okay, Okay, let's see what comes
up in the first two, Oh, this is great. Okay.
Two of penty calls ten of pentacalls the family dynamic.
I may have mentioned this before, but it's moved up
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in its rotation. A baby. I'm hoping so very soon,
very very soon, there's a little one that will make
an appearance. Male vibes are coming there. He is look
page of cups the baby. So it's very very strong
here and it's showing me that there's also a departure.
(17:05):
So there's going to be a travel here. So there's
going to be some sort of are you going away? Yes,
very busy spot. Two of one's there's a lot of movements,
so it's not a relaxing is that for work? It's
not a relaxing spot.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I have one coming up that's for work, one trip
for work, and then I have one that's like a
family trip.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Okay, the family trip is it feels like you're going
to a buzzy city type of place because it's like
a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's I think we're spending one night somewhere that's a
bit buzzy and then somewhere a bit quiet.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Okay, yeah, so baby will come around, maybe there'll be
news a couple of months after that or a month
after that. Because of the way that these cards have
laid out here, there are three cards dedicated to addition
to the family. It's like the universe really wants you
to know that there's a baby coming.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And so you're getting boy vibes boy vibes. So not
only does a universe want you to know, but the
out louder is tonight there's a little one coming along.
The next two cards are to do with.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
The way that you're dealing with a lot of commotion
around you. So the nine of ones shows some really
hard things. So whether there's a lot of difficult issues
happening around your life at the moment, or the workplace,
sentimental things, things going on with coworkers maybe, or things
like that, and you being a voice of reason, the
(18:28):
hero fant and really helping people getting through things, but
also learning from that as well. A lot of that
will also feed into what you will put into your
projects moving forward and may even help with that project
that we talked about earlier.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah, that definitely rings true. Definitely, I can be
very I can probably be very stubborn with certain things.
Speaking my mind a little bit more that Yeah, that
rings true. Oh, very good, but it's in an actually
it's a very healthy way. I see this as growth.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I see it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's going to be great for you and the people
around you. And then the way that you put that
into this new project is fantastic. Yes, it's going to
help others. That's the hero fan interesting. Hm, Okay, let's
look at these two. Okay, the final two cards are fantastic.
So this also shows me again that drive for the
(19:22):
social justice that's in you. It's like you're really needing
to get out there and do something to better the world,
or needing to find this peace or finding that society
needs to come together and find some sort of harmony.
Are you sure you're not going into some sort of
civic I mean maybe not politics, but some sort of
(19:42):
organization or a way that you're going to channel this
feeling that you have to really try to make the
world a better place, because it's very prominent in your cards.
Since having learn especially, it's like maybe a deeper search
for meaning. And I spoke to a career coach not
long ago about how you decide what you do because
(20:04):
I do this, but then I've got other projects and
it's like, how do I decide to do what to
do based on my values?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
What happens when my values conflict? What happens when my
time is finite? Like, all of that has just been recalibrated,
and I think Sin's having lunar Yeah, definitely faced with
harder decisions and doing more soul searching.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
The position these are in. You may find that you
have more information on that because there is action here,
but that's late next year.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Interesting. Okay, all right, I like those cards.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I guess my other question is what is the best
path forward? At the moment, I'm definitely at a crossroads with, like,
you know, lots of things going on and trying to
maybe control the uncontrollable and get my head around the
next few years. So I suppose it's a question about, yes,
what is.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
The best path forward? What would the cards recommend?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Okay, your path is definitely the one of love and family.
There's a lot of faith here, so you have a
very strong faith foundation to have cups based in love
and love of family, love of connection. So it's not
so much in terms of religion, but it is. You're
quite a spiritual person too, so holding on to that Yep,
(21:17):
that's the number one path. The baby comes through again,
page of cups. The little boy see the next two
cards shows me that to really feel safe in your power.
The Emperor shows someone who is powerful, very comfortable in
their skin when it comes to leadership and not shying
away from that. So taking that on and being happy
(21:41):
with the task that the world has given you, yep, yeah,
of being at natural leader, of charging forward. And I
mean you're still learning, but you're also imparting a lot
of your knowledge too. So it's actually a really good
card to have very positive ones.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Okay, good, good, That makes me very happy. All Right, Holly,
it's your turn.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
You have shuffled, So am I just spreading or am
I shuffling too?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Get you to shuffle so they have your energy and
then we just pick ten interesting. Okay, So your first
two cards are all about your energy at the moment.
And sometimes it feels like you're on a bit of
a hamster wheel. You're doing a lot and feeling like
you're not getting what you want out of things, particularly work.
It's like you're feeling like you're in a rut. And
(22:30):
so that's nine of one's. Nine of ones usually means
that you're very, very, very busy for no reason.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
However, the five of Pentacles.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I'm very busy for no reason reason, So it could
be she was very busy for no reason.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
So the five of Pentacles shows that there'll be a
lot being done, so you'll feel like, well, all of
this busyness that I have going on, I'm actually seeing
something come out of it. So for the last year
or the last few months, it may have been that
you're just being pulled every which way and you're left
with that sense of why, what's happened? Why am I
on the handster wheel? Or what have I produced?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So what I do see five appentacles is that in
the next three to four months, you will start to
see the fruits of your labor.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Okay, interesting, that's good to know.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Oh the devil, Oh shit, okay, the devil makes got
the devil? Yes, the devil sometimes in this position makes
an appearance when there are feelings of envy or jealousy
around things and need to be cleared out.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
We just talked about jealousy on the show, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Last week, So this can mean others being envious of youws.
So it might be that you have something that others
will say, Oh, well, isn't that something that I would love?
Whether it's your sense of humor, the way that you
connect to people, your relationship, your job, that sort of thing.
That's something that's quite present in the first flour, and
(24:10):
it's energy that needs to be cleared. It's unhealthy. I'm
not sure if that's you feeling the envy or the jealousy,
but usually admits feelings that others.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Have towards you. It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, the hanged man is yes, why am my card
so sad? The hanged man is a call to your health?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So it could be a change in your routine. It
could be something that you need to cut out of
your diet or something that you're taking that needs to stop.
Oh okay, yes, so something a little drastic. It's not
a difficult thing. It's very simple. It's that immediacy that's
needed and it needs to stop. So, whether it's sugar,
whether it's wheat, whether it's I need to stop having coffee.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That's crazy because I literally I've just had a lot
of blood tests done and stuff because I've been having
all these gut problems and they're gonna tell me, I'm
gonna have to cut something fun out of my diet.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
They but the good thing is Holly, is that it's
nothing serious. It's a very simple fix. But you have
to cut this out now.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Okay, okay, interesting what is it that you like? I
don't know. I actually eat really healthily, but I'm having
all these gut problems lately.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It must be something that's causing one particular bit of irritation.
It's very easy. It's a simple thing. It's a simple solution.
But you're going to have to stick to this, all right,
lifestyle change. Yeah. I know, I said no bad news, but.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Shit, I was feeling so relaxed coming in here and blends.
You lulled me into a false security.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
But some good things happening. Okay, So the cards here
do show this is nice. So this does show a trip.
So I do see you going away. It's a lovely trip.
It's like somewhere new that you haven't been before. Oh okay, yeah,
so it's like the page of cups and the five
of cups. Here is you're going somewhere familiar and then
(26:09):
jumping off to somewhere you.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Haven't been before. Woh, that's exciting.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Is that in the next six months, because the cards
here show me a six month timeline.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
There's a bit of travel plan for next year, hopefully
for good reasons. My family live overseas, so you know.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But yeah, hoanefully and then jumping off to somewhere you
haven't been while you're visiting family.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, work is going to be very, very very busy. Yes,
it sometimes feels.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Like get any busier, Evelynn, that's the question.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Look very very busy. It's like you're here twenty four
to seven Great Or of Pentacles. However, very good things.
Six of Swords means the turbulence is behind you, smooth
sailing ahead. So in the busyness you do find the
solutions you need to move forward in the projects that
you're working on. And the Six of Swords shows that
(27:05):
the right people will make an appearance around March or
April next year. Oh okay, to push something that you
have that you've been sitting on for some time, maybe
two years, and push it forward and finally that's kind
of birthed at that time.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Oh, that's exciting.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Does that make sense to you.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
To do with the books?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
The books? Yeah, it's something you've done on your own. Yes, well,
something that you've sat on your own for many hours,
that's this here, and had to go through that process
by yourself. But even the lived experience was something that
could have been very lonely. Is that what your books
are about.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's not what they're about, but the process of them
is lonely. That's one of the things that makes them
hard to do is it requires a lot of separating
yourself and being alone. And sometimes that doesn't feel great. Okay,
you know, yeah, like you like it, but you don't
like it the process, yes, yeah, because it is a
very self focused process and also a lot of pressure
(28:06):
on you, so a lot of time that you're taken
away from people. So yeah, maybe, But I love doing it,
and I love the outcome and I love the fulfillment.
But it is a lonely it's a lonely game.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well, I do see that that's going to be something
that is behind you, and it's quite quite a successful venture.
The last card, I'll just get you to pick one
more for me. Do you have a son?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Oh? Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And is he off on his adventures?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
He's only thirteen, Okay, he's always on an adventure up here.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
He's very Yeah, he will have many adventures. He's already
thinking about travel as well, and I see him traveling
quite a bit. Is he a water sign? Cancirian Pi?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Hold on, what is Billy? He is the third of
June Gemini.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But his cards show up like a very very much
watery sign. So very intuitive. M he really re people
very easily. He can see them coming a mile away.
So very very good at that. Very creative, oh, massively creative.
He'll do very very well in his life. So in
your general reading, that's something that the universe wanted you
(29:21):
to know, is that your son will do very well.
But he will travel to many lens.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Oh that makes me so happy.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yes, Oh that's great boy. What's his name?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Billy?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Billy very nice, a horse, a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yes. So something I'd love to know is in the
last few years, made a lot of changes in our lives.
Like we've changed where we live, I've changed my pattern
of work, you know, lots of quite big changes, and
I kind of want to just know, like if we're
on the right track.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh, Holly, the sun you were always meant to be here.
Look at this you're definitely following your intuition and you're
on the right path one hundred percent. You've done the
right thing for your entire family, including your is it
your husband, yeah, thre three cup or partner yeap? So absolutely?
(30:17):
Oh good, three of cups. That's wonderful. It was a
great change for you. It might have been a little
difficult in the beginning, but things are really it's like
where you're meant to be, and you were always meant
to be here the sun, the lovers, it shows that
there are many options that were given to you, but
you picked the right options. So the lover's card is
(30:38):
many boyfriend, he was the right fool. It just means
that there was a lot. So the lover is usually
in this context means that many doors would have been
open to you, but you walk through the one that
was the right one for you, your and your family.
There'll be many other things that will be opened. So
there'll be other things that three of ones that will
be given to you in terms of opportunities, information, things
(31:00):
that you will grow with, so that three of on's
some will not be here and that's the ace of swords,
but you will return here. That's interesting Yeah, it may
be that it's a success overseas, but you were here
the sun, this is your place.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, out Louders, we loved having Evelyn in.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
It was such an interesting afternoon.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I cannot wait to hold on to this episode and
revisit it in the future and see whether her predictions
have come true.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I'd love to know.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Out Louders, please keep sharing your stories of Tarot card
readers and things that have come true. They have blown
my mind. Let us know in the out Louders Facebook group.
And if you're looking for more to listen to, every
Muma Mia podcast is curating your summer listening right across
our network. From pop culture to beauty to powerful interviews,
(31:53):
there's something for everyone.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
There's a link in our show notes.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
We'll be back to regular programming on Monday twelfth of January.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on
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