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August 14, 2024 5 mins

In light of the recent controversy facing our Gold Coast Mayor calling a fellow councillor a 'ranga', a name he thought was a term of endearment, Moyra and Big Trev wanted to know, is it offensive?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Gladso Gold Coast.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
This Gid's Moira vitred On.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Before we start talking about the word ranger, I would
like to preempt this conversation with the fact that I
always wanted to have red hair. I've always found people
with red hair very attractive.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
I think there was one guy who I just was anyway,
that's a long story and quite a sad one.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
They all ended up the same, you know, he broke
up with me. Anyway, sod share one. I always do it.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Many years ago, I actually had a band called Tinge
of Ginge, which was all made up of redheads, because
I just think redheads are amazing.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
You had a band. I had a band called Tinge
of Ginge. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Tom Tait is in trouble at the moment, facing disciplinary
action because he called fellow counselor Joe Wilkinson a ranger. Now,
someone complained it wasn't Joe Wilkinson, who, may I just
mention has a very fine mop of red hair, a
very strong red hair.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
No I'm not no, I'm just saying he play an instrument.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Tom Tator said it was no idea that it was
offensive and it complaints been made to the office of
the Independent Assessor after his comments were made at a
media conference in April after the council elections. So he's
saying that this particular person has complained saying that ranger
is an offensive word.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Ah, how can someone else be outraged but not him?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I don't understand how you can make it a complain
about exactly the word being used.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
But you used to, are you? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
They could be the most wranger of rangers? Am I
in trouble now for saying that? You're just not saying.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I thought it was a term of endearment or it's
like me saying I'm a blonde.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
It's like a blonde. Is that okay?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I guess that could be used as ditsy blonde, blonde,
that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
If you are you are such a blonde. I could
see how that can be.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
It's the way you say it and what contexts you
put in.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
But we would know.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Do you think it's actually I thought it was a
term of endearment. I thought I thought it was just
an Australian word.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
But then you can't be careful these days, like when
you call I'm trying to do hands. Oh my god,
little people. No, No, you can't say that. That's what
you can't say. I'm just making a point. That's what
the stuff you can't say. Just call them by the
name like Greg. You really can't say that one.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Greg's fine.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
There was one of our bosses who had red hair,
and we had a complaint into the station because I
had said something about a ranger and this particular person
didn't like the fact that I'd use the word. And
our boss sent a message back to this person saying,
as a ranger, I don't find this word offensive. Oh okay,

(02:49):
My pale skin and my red hair have always been
a distinct difference to many of those I in fact,
use it as a term of endearment.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like when people stick up for you know, other people,
saying that whether you're not allowed to say yes, then
you sit. So where where do I stand in all this? Yes,
like a couple of seconds ago.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Let's discuss before Trevor puts his food in anymore and
we can do it to the void.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Farm. What do you think? Is it a term of
indimon Are you as shocked? Is this as silly as
what we think it is? As well and clear from
memo Waters is it offensive.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, it's not offensive. I'm a redhead and my whole
family of redheads, and yeah, I just think it's again
a term of in demon. We used to joke around
about it all the time.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Do other people get offended when someone calls you a ranger?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
And I actually think it's a generational thing to be honest.
So how old was this person that made the complaints?
Were they born after the Nike?

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Like honestly, I remember saying it about somebody else, you know,
calling someone else to ranger, and another person in now
group was like, hey, don't say that, And.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
I'm like, I am one. You are one. I mean like, yeah, son,
that's my father. All the rangers come in here, get
a photo, rang a photo?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You can't you're blonde.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Ari from Benogan do you find the word ranger offensive? Yes?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I do.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Okay, why it's never used as a term of endearment.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, Well we just had someone on saying it was
and they come from a family of redheads.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yes, all of my husband's family, Well, my husband and
his sister are both redheads, and it's never been used
a term of endearment their entire lives.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Oh okay, so you're what color head? Do you have?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Very brown hair?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Very boring brown.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
That funny though, that when we were talking about this earlier,
that other people think it's not a term of endearment
when they actually themselves are not redhead.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Does that makes sense?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, make any sense of this.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So you don't know where you sit, well, you know
where you sit.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I know where I sit, and I'll always defend him.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yes, yeah, as a term.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Of indium, and it's time it's been sort of said
towards him.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh okay, cool, because he obviously gets offended when people
call him a ringer.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, I feel like high school is probably really yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
You go och, Yes, each individual redhead to themselves.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yes, there you go.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
All right, Well there's a couple of insights for you.
We didn't get anywhere. We'll see what happens with Jim Tak.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
We will

Speaker 3 (05:39):
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