November 22, 2024 • 6 mins
With the government tabling to have social media banned for under 16s, Moyra and Big Trev asked if you think it would work on your kids?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well as it's happening right now in Parliament. There are
rules being made about kids using different apps social media
apps under the age of sixteen. As of late next year,
you will not be able to use TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram
x or Reddit, so you're not allowed to use any
(00:21):
of those until you are sixteen in Australia. These are
new laws going through Parliament at the moment, so they
will come into force. As I mentioned in late twenty
twenty five. It also means that if you're a thirteen
year old kid now and you have TikTok, you have
to delete it and you can't use it until you're sixteen.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So how do they follow that? Like you know how
kids go? Yeah, I'll just put in a different date.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's what I want to know. How are they actually
going to keep this? How are they going to monitor this?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, they can't monitor stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And also the big one as well, Snapchat. It's set
like so many kids I use Snapchat. Apparently I'm too
old to use Snapchat. I've been told I don't use it.
So you're still allowed to use YouTube of course, Google
as well and WhatsApp, So you can use WhatsApp but
(01:15):
you won't be able to use the big ones TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram,
X and reddits.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, I just don't know how they're going to monitor that.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I would love to know how they possibly think this
is gonna happen. I mean, I think it's a great thing.
I think my watching my kids on their phone sometimes neither.
I think Jackson now has a sin card, but Elos
only on Wi Fi. So it's not like they make
calls or anything like that. But the calls are the
least of the worries. It's the stuff that you hear,
particularly when you're driving and they're watching something and you
(01:45):
hear something pop up and just be like, did I
just hear what?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I think?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I just even though it's on restricted notes, there is
so much stuff that we're having conversations we don't need
to be having.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know how even if you've got the filter on,
filters through with some of the stuff that they're watching.
Like Koreans, he's fourteen almost fourteen, and he he loves
getting on TikTok and making videos and stuff. Say that'll
be upsetting for him because he actually really enjoys doing
that and watching some of the stuff. I know, he
(02:17):
can go off and get lost in YouTube stuff, but
the Snapchat I don't mind if they get taken off
of that because I find that weird when they I
say to contact his mates and he goes, oh, they're
not replying on Snapchat, and I go, can you just
call him? Like calling him? No, no, he won't pick
up and said pretty sure, I think you're the number. No, no,
(02:38):
this is how we do it now. I said, well,
it's just that's just silly. Yeah, it just it boggles
my mind.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Well, apparently there's going to be penalties of up to
fifty million dollars for companies that breach the legislation's off
as also they're asking them to take reasonable steps to
prevent young people under the age of sixteen from having
an account.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't know, Yeah, how are they.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Going to do this? And also we want to know
do you think this will work with your kids as well?
Lee from Bogan? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I sincerely hope it works because you know, and do
I think it's really important?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I do.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Almost on a weekly basis. You read and his stories
about how twelventh inn in year old boys and girls
are committing suicide and that's that's hugely alarming for somebody
that's twelve and thirteen year old girl sort of thing.
So I sincerely hope that it works and I pray that.
(03:36):
I think it'll be a great thing because if it
saves a couple of lives and happy days, I think, yeah,
there's more to it than just you know, some tiktoks
and stuff like that. You know, they're all good and fun,
but yeah, it's that other seed side of it, but
it makes me shiver.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's the online bullying and them not telling you about
it and then trying to deal with themselves, but it just
gets worse.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, correct. Yeah, so then and the sad thing is
that you hear about the tragic thing, but also you
don't hear about what's happened about the police as well.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, very much so.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And there's a Holy Predators as well, and there's that's
just a completely different other thing as well. Finger Parent
scares the absolute pajessus out of you.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Thank you, Lee Veronica from Kumra. What do you think
about their social media band? Do you think it'll work?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I mean, I can understand where the government's trying to
come from. With a lot online bullying. But for a
lot of kids, I mean, especially like low sociog and
of examilies, they might have like a data or an
old phone but no, actually sorry, an iPad or an
old phone, but they may not have any data to
actually use things just like a normal text message, so
they kind of rely on the Wi Fi and these
social media apps to stay in touch. That's how my
(04:48):
two communicate with their fronts.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, I didn't even think about that, like the fact
that that is actually social socializing for so many kids.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, and it's like we're moving into a world where
this is literally how a lot of people do communicate.
I mean they do so. I mean I think while
it is absolutely horrible that the government's kind of been
put into a position to try and protect children, there
really needs to be more education with parents on building
these safe relationships with kids so they can come to
them if this is happening, And again with kids themselves,
(05:21):
if this is happening, you need to tell somebody and
maybe just take yourself offline yourself for a while until
it gets results. I mean, while it's not ideal, I
don't think it's going to work, and if it does,
it's going to end up potentially isolating children who have
no other way of communicating with their friends outside of
school and coming into a six week Christmas holiday not
(05:42):
being able to organize to go hang out with their
friends or anything like that without having to go through
our mum. Can you message this person? I mean, I
don't know half my friends, half my kids friends' parents
organize it themselves, So I like why. I can't understand
why the government's and done it. But I don't think
(06:02):
I've really taken into account that some kids desperately need
this lifeline to stay in touch with our friends.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
David from Rabina, what do you think will it work?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Oh my god, for one hundred and sixteen year olds,
it's the end of the world. But on the flip flide,
on the government side of the world, we're going to
be the richest country in the world with.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
The amount of fines, with the amount of fines, so
Australia will come out of curvilus in no time at all.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, there's always an upside there.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
David negatively.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Time with MOI right and on Monday two nine, Tomato
Well as it's happening right now in Parliament. There are
rules being made about kids using different apps social media
apps under the age of sixteen. As of late next year,
you will not be able to use TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram
x or Reddit, so you're not allowed to use any
(00:21):
of those until you are sixteen in Australia. These are
new laws going through Parliament at the moment, so they
will come into force. As I mentioned in late twenty
twenty five. It also means that if you're a thirteen
year old kid now and you have TikTok, you have
to delete it and you can't use it until you're sixteen.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So how do they follow that? Like you know how
kids go? Yeah, I'll just put in a different date.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's what I want to know. How are they actually
going to keep this? How are they going to monitor this?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, they can't monitor stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And also the big one as well, Snapchat. It's set
like so many kids I use Snapchat. Apparently I'm too
old to use Snapchat. I've been told I don't use it.
So you're still allowed to use YouTube of course, Google
as well and WhatsApp, So you can use WhatsApp but
(01:15):
you won't be able to use the big ones TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram,
X and reddits.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, I just don't know how they're going to monitor that.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I would love to know how they possibly think this
is gonna happen. I mean, I think it's a great thing.
I think my watching my kids on their phone sometimes neither.
I think Jackson now has a sin card, but Elos
only on Wi Fi. So it's not like they make
calls or anything like that. But the calls are the
least of the worries. It's the stuff that you hear,
particularly when you're driving and they're watching something and you
(01:45):
hear something pop up and just be like, did I
just hear what?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I think?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I just even though it's on restricted notes, there is
so much stuff that we're having conversations we don't need
to be having.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know how even if you've got the filter on,
filters through with some of the stuff that they're watching.
Like Koreans, he's fourteen almost fourteen, and he he loves
getting on TikTok and making videos and stuff. Say that'll
be upsetting for him because he actually really enjoys doing
that and watching some of the stuff. I know, he
(02:17):
can go off and get lost in YouTube stuff, but
the Snapchat I don't mind if they get taken off
of that because I find that weird when they I
say to contact his mates and he goes, oh, they're
not replying on Snapchat, and I go, can you just
call him? Like calling him? No, no, he won't pick
up and said pretty sure, I think you're the number. No, no,
(02:38):
this is how we do it now. I said, well,
it's just that's just silly. Yeah, it just it boggles
my mind.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Well, apparently there's going to be penalties of up to
fifty million dollars for companies that breach the legislation's off
as also they're asking them to take reasonable steps to
prevent young people under the age of sixteen from having
an account.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't know, Yeah, how are they.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Going to do this? And also we want to know
do you think this will work with your kids as well?
Lee from Bogan? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I sincerely hope it works because you know, and do
I think it's really important?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I do.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Almost on a weekly basis. You read and his stories
about how twelventh inn in year old boys and girls
are committing suicide and that's that's hugely alarming for somebody
that's twelve and thirteen year old girl sort of thing.
So I sincerely hope that it works and I pray that.
(03:36):
I think it'll be a great thing because if it
saves a couple of lives and happy days, I think, yeah,
there's more to it than just you know, some tiktoks
and stuff like that. You know, they're all good and fun,
but yeah, it's that other seed side of it, but
it makes me shiver.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's the online bullying and them not telling you about
it and then trying to deal with themselves, but it just
gets worse.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, correct. Yeah, so then and the sad thing is
that you hear about the tragic thing, but also you
don't hear about what's happened about the police as well.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, very much so.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And there's a Holy Predators as well, and there's that's
just a completely different other thing as well. Finger Parent
scares the absolute pajessus out of you.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Thank you, Lee Veronica from Kumra. What do you think
about their social media band? Do you think it'll work?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I mean, I can understand where the government's trying to
come from. With a lot online bullying. But for a
lot of kids, I mean, especially like low sociog and
of examilies, they might have like a data or an
old phone but no, actually sorry, an iPad or an
old phone, but they may not have any data to
actually use things just like a normal text message, so
they kind of rely on the Wi Fi and these
social media apps to stay in touch. That's how my
(04:48):
two communicate with their fronts.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, I didn't even think about that, like the fact
that that is actually social socializing for so many kids.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, and it's like we're moving into a world where
this is literally how a lot of people do communicate.
I mean they do so. I mean I think while
it is absolutely horrible that the government's kind of been
put into a position to try and protect children, there
really needs to be more education with parents on building
these safe relationships with kids so they can come to
them if this is happening, And again with kids themselves,
(05:21):
if this is happening, you need to tell somebody and
maybe just take yourself offline yourself for a while until
it gets results. I mean, while it's not ideal, I
don't think it's going to work, and if it does,
it's going to end up potentially isolating children who have
no other way of communicating with their friends outside of
school and coming into a six week Christmas holiday not
(05:42):
being able to organize to go hang out with their
friends or anything like that without having to go through
our mum. Can you message this person? I mean, I
don't know half my friends, half my kids friends' parents
organize it themselves, So I like why. I can't understand
why the government's and done it. But I don't think
(06:02):
I've really taken into account that some kids desperately need
this lifeline to stay in touch with our friends.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
David from Rabina, what do you think will it work?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Oh my god, for one hundred and sixteen year olds,
it's the end of the world. But on the flip flide,
on the government side of the world, we're going to
be the richest country in the world with.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
The amount of fines, with the amount of fines, so
Australia will come out of curvilus in no time at all.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, there's always an upside there.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
David negatively.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Time with MOI right and on Monday two nine, Tomato
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