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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listenlive at Tasmania Talks dot com dot a.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It is Tasmania Talks with Alan on our Friday. We've
made it through to the end of the week. I
won't speak too soon. Stop it, stop it, stop it,
stop it. We're talking yesterday around around the place about Russia, Ukraine,
all that sort of stuff. And I mentioned to Matt
Kellingsworth yesterday about reparations and whether or not we were
ever likely to see money coming out of Russia, and

(00:25):
he sort of said there would be sort of money
coming out of Russia, but it wouldn't be in the
form of reparations. But it became apparent yesterday that love
him or hate him, Australian billionaire Andrew Tuggy Forest is
said to give nearly seven hundred and fifty million dollars
to Ukraine to kickstart the war torn country's rebuild and
replace what he says, get this, replace all the Russian rubbish.

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You got to like that. Anyway, that came about yesterday,
which is good news. Something else that came about yesterday.
This is according to nine News, extreme weather strike in
Australia is set to happen decades earlier than expected. They
say that climate change is likely to change Eastern Pacific
weather patterns within a decade, a new study has found,
meaning Australia needs to start preparing for extreme flooding and

(01:11):
drought events sooner than anticipated. I wonder if I've got
windows do you reckon? Maybe I've not looked out the
window recently. According to Dr wen Ju Kai at Climate
Scientists with the CSA OR, Australia is one of the
most effective countries in the world when it comes to
extreme weather. We're going to get more frequent, longer and
more intense drought, more frequent and longer La Nina's when

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it rains, it's going to rain a lot harder and
in dry conditions. During El Nino, we will enter drought
earlier and it'll last a lot longer, and it'll be
harder to get out of. It will be much more severe.
That's according to the CSIRO.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
List alive at Tasmania talks dot com dot au.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hey, Brian Great, Hello, Hello, I've just discovered something about
this apparat in here turning water into wine. That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Isn't it not a bad thing to do? I think
a blokes like two thousand years ago worked out pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well they worked out pretty well for him, sort of.
We won't go too far into that. This is to
do with the one hundred million dollars that Labor pledged
for water infrastructure before the election. You've come through with
the goods. Where's it going to go? What's it going
to achieve?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
So there's five schemes what we call our pipeline of prosperity.
So of course the man Irrigation has been with the
staff for the best part of a decade or or more,
and there's five year schames so that the don out
in the Northwest, Northern midlandscheme, the West Tamar, the Single
Valley and Sassafras. So this is the federal government's contribution.

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Then what farmers and the state government will make their
contribution as well. People will buy into it and basically
it provides water security out they can farmers can get
the water security they need and that gives them the
investment confidence to do things like essentially turned things up,
transformed the landscape from what used to be fairly rough

(03:07):
cattle and sheep pasture into things like cherry growing and
fruit growing, vineyards, all sorts of really top value added
the products.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
David Butler talked about this a long time ago before
it all began. Was it his brainstorm or was it
or where did it come about?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, David Dwellyn, who was a former labor State Primary
Industries minister, his brain child. He talks to farmers and
irrigators and the farming community and it was under David's sewardship,
which I think was under David Bartlett as Premier, that
this all came about. And we've been pleased to see

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that it's been continued by the current state government. And
of course it's being dependent on federal funding because of
the capital expenditure required. But it's just transforming Tasmania. There
are vast ways of Tasmania now that very different to
what they were more than a decade ago, and just
adding real value to the state's agriculture. The state government's

(04:07):
got a plan to get to having fifty billion of
agricultural output and the Tasmania sorry ten billion, and nationally
we wont one hundred billion by twenty thirty. We're on track, obviously, clod.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
What does that meant? Fifty billion output? Is that fifty
billion dollars or fifty.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Ten billion on this spoke there? So it was ten
ten billion to Tasmania, the agricultural value to the economy
of a billion, and nationally we've got one hundred billion
dollar plan which incorporates red meat and everything else, and
it just gives us a goal and we're on our
way to achieving and this sort of investment helps us

(04:46):
get there because it transforms what was fairly marginal land
into high value land.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I asked this question of Andrew Nieburn earlier in the
week when we talked about the scheme. At the beginning
there was sort of environmental concerns, but he says most
of those or all of those have pretty much been addressed.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, well, of course environmental concerns are always taken into
consideration when these proposers get up. It's not like his
decided to hand over money and to start digging pipes.
There's a lot of work that goes into them. Cultural
aspects obviously, and thinking the First Nations history, historical issues,
so that there's a lot of work that goes into
preparing where the sites are and how they go. And

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environmental considerations are a big one because when you change
the nature of where water flows and how it flows,
that can have ramification. So There's a lot of work
goes into these games, but at the end of the day,
they transform the landscape. They will high value output, but
also jobs. You know, they provide a lot of jobs

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in the regions.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
A lot of people working on them. Do you ever
have to acquire land to achieve it or are farmers
more I don't know. I guess they can understand what
you're trying to do.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Well.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Essentially these are set up as business modules under Tasmanian
irrigation and then the farmers will buy into them and
get the water.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Right.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
So if you went to mister farmer Brown and say
we want to lay a pipe across your land, are
are you happy about that? Or do you give them
money for it? Or do you give them discount water? Maybe?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I'm sure negotiations will take place.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, okay, all right, out of your domain. Now. This
is all new money, I'm guessing, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, we've promised this in the election, we're elected to
government and we've come through. I'm pleased to say that
all of the election commitments that we've made for Tasmania
have come through in this budget. They're either being delivered
now or they're on track to be delivered over the
forwards and this is one of them. So we're really
happy about that.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
It's one hundred million dollars. Which areas are going to
benefit from this in the short term? Can you name
a couple of areas for people right now?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I think being Gone I think is the most progressed
up there around Devenport, so that that's the most progressed.
But this gives certainty so that the others can start
moving forward as well. These plans take some years to
develop before they're fully in place, but this is a
good starting point.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Wow. All right, so we're going to start seeing things
moving on the ground, I suppose straight away. I guess
we're seeing it now already.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah. Well this is called Trump's what they call Trump three,
So it's like the third stage of this rollouse. And
so we've already got two stages through Tasmania that there's
a number of these schemes already in place, and they
really have transfort I'm not being hyperbolic. They really do
transform the place. So I live down in the southeast,

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which is a fairly dry region normally, and we've got
vineyards going in on the east coast. They've got vinyos
going to the east coast, really high value wine, and
of course all through the south now we've got cherries
and fruits, and they just give farmers that security they need.
They know the water is going to be there when
they need it, which of course is not always the case.

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So if they know they've got the water, then that
means they can make the investment decisions for the long term.
So it's a it's a terrific announcement.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
A farmer is generally happy with the price of the
water because I think the water sort of fluctuates, doesn't
It depends on the time every year.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I would always be hesitant to guess what makes farmers happy.
Farmers are happy when when the sun shining, and when
there's plenty of water but not too much water, and
when prices are up but not so much that they're
that they're they're they're paying too much. So that farmers
work really hard. They do a fantastic job for the state.
But I'd be a brave man if I said, you know,

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our farmers happy about this. But the farmers I've spoken to,
they are delighted that this gives them the security they need,
because you know, farmers know that seasonal issues and what
gets in the way they're making investment decisions. You know,
they might make a decision this week and then there's
a draft for three years and that just throws everything out.
Or as we've seen, they might plant some seeds and

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then a flood comes away and comes along and wash
them away. So those sorts of things that get in
the way of farmers and incomes and investments. What this
sort of security does. It just provides them security. They
know that the war is going to be there when
they need it, and that means they can go forward
with their investment decisions with more surety. So it's a

(09:17):
really good insurance policy for them.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's a lot of money, one hundred million dollars, and
I'm guessing that it probably came from somewhere. Are we
sure that there aren't any other infrastructures that we're about
to happen that are maybe not going to happen now
as a result of this, Can we be absolutely positive?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Well, look, that's a terrific question. But of course, whatever
we decide to put money into something, and particularly under
our government, we are always looking for what we call
a return on investment. So it's got to be a
good business case, and we are confident that this is
a good business case. We've seen that in the past
with the other two stages where you put money in

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and there's always a multiplier effect at the end of
us and that's good for and it's frankly good for
consumers as well. It gets more products on the shelves
which were exports. So we're confident that this is a
good not just a good social decision, but a good
business decision. And it supports our regions. It puts money
back into the regional economies and it supports the growth
of the region, so that that's a great outcome as well.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
We look there's a lot of infrastructure going in. Who
gets the fun part of maintaining all of that? Is
that tas water or who looks after that? And in
the in the in.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
The run Tasmanian irrigation, which is I think a g
DA of the state government. I think is the best
way to drive it. And they will take over to
sort of the operation and running of this. But it's
in concert with the pharmacy buy into the scheme.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
So's yeah, I see, So Andrew Kneebones Lot are the
ones that actually put it in and look after it
in the long run. Look, yeah you're still there.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yes, yeah, yeah, you're right. But that's pretty much the case.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's how it works out pretty well. Okay, you're going
out with a silver shovel or something. Is there any
sort of big a major photo opportunities and stuff cutting ribbons?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
We love the silver shovels. Look as I'm sure at
some stage we'll be announcing these things as they come together.
You'll see Polly's wandering around digging holes and.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
How many how many holes have you dug with a
silver shovel? Bright?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Not too many. We've only been in government for six months,
yeah a long the airport, but yeah, it's just one
of they See. It's good to be able to support initiatives,
support the community, support the economy going forward. The key
thing I guess, Allen is as a government, what we
are determined to do is make sure that we use
taxpayers funds wisely and we're not going to spend it recklessly.

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And we know we make decisions in a very considered, methodical,
calm collected way, and that's what we're done with this decision,
and that's what we'll do with future investment decisions that
the federal government has always been called on to support
various projects and we'll always consider them in a very cool, collected,
methodical way.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
How do you reckon the labor government's going now we're
into what are we into a few months down the track?
Is it going good? You're enjoying it?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Six months this week? Well, really really enjoying it. It's
nice to be able to do the things that you
say you want to do. As I say, we've met
all our promises today. Look and there's no doubt. We
know we're in tough times. Cost of living is a
big issue in the community, but we are determined to
address that. Our budget went some way to doing that.
We have five initiatives in the budget, but again they

(12:29):
weren't a big sugar hit giveaway, which I think people
have still of got used to over the last few years.
We're putting in place structural foundations for sustainable growth, so
cheaper childcare, cheaper medicines. These are things that will make
a real difference to the hip pocket, but they also
lay down the strong foundations for a stronger economy going forward.
So it's about making just getting back to the basics

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of good government and good governance. So we're really enjoying it,
but we also know we've got a really big responsibility
and we're determined to make it.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Are we getting any closer with the electricity prices that
are about to go up and the gas prices, what's
the story there?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, we are very cognizant of the impact of those
and I know our industry and energy ministers and finance
ministers are working day and night to try and find
it again, a long term solution on this. It's not
just to make a knee.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Jerk like I could have. We could have recorded that
answer and played it six months ago and it would
have been the same, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I know it sounds boring, but these things that they
are very complex and they do take time.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Why don't you just tell a gas company that you're
not going to pay on that much money anymore. You're
gonna have to give us this much, this much of
our gas for this much. That's just the way it is.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Take it leaves legal frameworks. There's regulatory frameworks. They've got
to be worked through. It's I wish it was as
simple as that, and I really do, but it's but
it's just not there. There there are very long standing
legal and regulatory frameworks that needs to be sorted out.
And kids, you're not industry, Energy and finance. This is
a working day and night on this because they know

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not only the hip pocket consumers, but it's also having
a big impost on small and medium sized business.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, they're already closing the doors as a company in
South Australia that I think keeps closing the doors and
then coming back when the gas price goes down again.
People aren't happy with it. They're getting very nervous.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
There are real there are real impacts out there, but
it's got to be said. We've got to make sure
that we state this very clearly. Pupils are legal. War
in Ukraine is chief chiefly responsible for this because that's
had a cascading and effect or inflation and energy pricess worldwide.
We have a responsibility to deal with it domestically and
our ministers are talking to the energy providers saying, look,

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you know that the prices you set are having a
massive impact on users and your customers. You need to
do all you can.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Now they've had months, haven't done they haven't done.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
It, so they don't listen to please, I mean treaties.
Then we need to look at other measures, and it's
those measures that take time to bring into place.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I think most economists say you should just simply tax
them more simple as that put on a higher tax,
and that would just fix the problem.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's certainly a view that's put out there. I'm sure
we'll be taking into consideration. But we've made it clear
that this in this electoral cycle that we are you know,
we're looking at taxing multinationals a fair rate of tax
and we'll certainly stick by that commitment.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Now, this one's come around pretty quick. It's now turned
into a bit of an emergency, and six months seems
like a long time to ask them and be polite.
Maybe now it's the time not to be polite.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I think, you know, we think it's important to stick
by promises. I think for the last ten years, you know,
people really got cynical about politicians who said one thing
before an election then did another thing after an election.
And we are very aware of that, and we think
it's really important to get trust back into the electoral
system and we're determined to keep our promises.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Are we going to have the guests and elect tricity
price is fixed by the end of the year. We've
got a couple of weeks. Is that long enough?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Working on at night and day, worked on at night
and day.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
So by the end of the year we'll have it sorted.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
We're worked on at night to heal and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
You've got to put a timeline otherwise you're going to
be working on it night and day in twelve months
from now.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I'm not going to I make a point of never
making a promise that that I'm not sure I can't.
I made promises before the election that I knew I
could keep, and I've delivered on those. And I'm saying
to you now with all sincerity, we are working on
this night and day. We know energy prices are a
big issue in the community, not just for households but
for businesses as well, and our ministers are working on

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at night and day to get a resolution. And it
will take as long as it takes, but they're working
on it night and day.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
All right. You have to realize that the people are
probably turning the electricity off as we speak. Should the
liberals in the state, liberals here said that we should
not be part of the national energy We've gone right
off track. The Liberals here. They said we should not
be part of the national energy market ages ago, and
they promised to get out of it. But now they've
changed their mind. Should we actually be part of this

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mess or should we just say no, we don't want
anything to do with it.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well, I think what the real point there is that
the Liberals said one thing before an election and are
doing another thing after election. And I think that just
feeds into the semesism that people have. Don't say things
that you don't mean, and don't do things that you
said you weren't going to do I mean, And that's
why people are frankly fed up with politics and politicians,
because politicians will say one thing before an election and

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do another after an election. I've been determined over my
six years not to be that sort of politician. I
say what I mean and I do what I say.
And I'm pleased to see that our government is doing
the same thing. We went to an election with a plan,
we called it Power in Australia, and we're wiring the
nation and we are implementing that plan. People people know
exactly what we are doing because we said we were

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going to do it as.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
A Tasmanian though, Brian, would you actually like to see
the national energy market by Tasmania.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I want to see power prices as low as they
can be for all Australians and of course all Tasmanians.
And I also want to see energy security and I
want to see cleaner and cheaper and more available energy. Now,
the experts say that the best way to achieve that
is through a national grid and the Tasmania being tied
into that through Marinis. We've made a decision that we

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are backing Marinas. That will double the state's renewable energy capacity,
that will provide Tasmania with energy security going forward and
will promote investment in Tasmania's energy supply, but also make
sure that our renewable energy can be used on the
mainland and feed us into the national system. So that's
experts talking. I'm not an energy expert, Alan and I

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don't pretend to be one, but we do listen to
the experts and that it actually matches what we said
before the election. We went the election with a power
in Australia and we're wiring a national plan to modernize
our grid and to make it cleaner and cheap and
more dependable on renewables. And that's what we're implementing. We're
implementing the plan we talk to the election, so we

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should we.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Need to be part of the national energy market. And
that's that's from Federal Minister Brand Mitchell or from Tasmanian
Bran Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Well, it's from Labor Party member Brian Mitchell, who is
a member of a party that went to a relation
with a plan ended in government and we are inmenting
that plan. I don't know how to be more clear
and more plain.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
So prices will be lower for Tasmanians attached to the
grid on the mainland than what they would be before
we said leave it go away. We're not going to
be part of this. Violet's in such a mess.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Look, prices will be as low as they can be
under Labor and they will be lower under our plan.
And we know that under our plan because we know
own renewable energy is the cheapest form of energy you
can have. I mean the Liberals now we've got.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
That at the moment, but we're about to probably give
most of it away. That's the thing that people are
worried about.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
The Liberal the alternative government. They are talking now after
nine years in power, that they're talking about bringing out
nuclear power. They never talked about that when they're in government.
Suddenly six months after the election they think nuclear powers
the answer when nuclear is the most expensive power you
can have globally, you know, that's all the studies show that.

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We know that renewable energy is the future. We need
to be able to transition to it in an orderly way.
We've mapped out away we're going to do that, and
that's what we're doing. We're implementing the plan that we
gave a commitment to before the election. And I think
people expect I think it's a refreshing change after the
last nine years. But a government is actually implementing the

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planet took to the election after the election, and that's
what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Fair, that's fair. Should I mentioned COVID, the fact that
Albo never talks about COVID, None of the ministers mentioned
COVID and this year just gone Actually under Albo, more
people have died of COVID than previously in the whole
time that we've been stuck with this damn thing. Do
you think you're doing a good job with the COVID controls,
there is no COVID controls.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Is there being managed. It's being managed as best as
well can be expected. I mean, you know, it's what.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Are you doing to manage them.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Well, implementing all the policies that that that are in place.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
It's what policies are. We've We've got rid of most
of them.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Said, we've got rid of a lot of the mask
controls and those sorts of things. According to health advice,
and will always listen to health advice and take it
into account because that that's important.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
But if people are dying at a greater rate than
they've ever died before of it, that that should mean
that that health advice at least should be looked at, shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, Look, it's important that people are dying with COVID.
I mean that that COVID is one of the things
that they have when they die. I'm yet to see evidence,
and I'm happy to be proved wrong that it's COVID
that is actually causing their deaths, you know, And I
think that's an important distinction. You know, somebody, for example,
may have other code morbidities of which you know, and

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then they get COVID as well, and they die, so
that their counter is a COVID death because they had
COVID at the time of their death. But it doesn't
necessarily mean that COVID, you know, is what caused their death.
And and I don't pretend to know all the details
of that, and I'm me getting into the weeds of
that would be difficult. But that's one of the things
I think about.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
It sounds it sounds almost as that you're heading towards
the If they're old and they die, it doesn't matter much.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Not at all. But but I think it's an important distinction,
is that if if COVID is causing death, like if
you if you catch COVID and it is what kills you,
that is that is different to that you are ill
already and then you get COVID and then your Canada
is a COVID death, even though it's not what's necessarily
killed you. And again I'm not a doctor, so I'm

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hesitant to get into that.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Am a president, Steve Robson, I think about that, am
a president. Professor Steve Robson. Earlier in the week he said,
he said, this is a quite here's a prediction I'm
going to put my money behind if the major public
hospitals on the East Coast aren't overwhelmed with patients and
facing staff shortages over the holiday break, I'll donate one

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thousand dollars to charity. Okay, that's he's a doctor, does
that listening to just that's that's a bit of a
throwaway line, but it's from someone who knows what they're
talking about. Does that mean that we should be bringing
back in some sort of protections.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Well, I'm not the best person to ask Allan. I
mean asking a labor back then from Tasmania whether we
should bring your master to hospitals. Frankly, that is a
question for health experts and for people who are experts
in infection control and the health Minister and others who
deal with this daily. But they get the advice from

(23:54):
the experts, you know. I don't pretend to be an
expert in that. I've got my own personal unions as
a citizen, just like you and your listeners. My view
is I think my view is that people want to
just get on with on with life, and we want
to be cognizant that COVID still exists, and we want
to be careful and still maintain careful controls where we can,

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but people also want to get get on with life.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yep, that's fair. Look, I'll tell you what. We'll make
friends again. One minute for a one minute for a
free kick. How do you reckon how boy's going on
the national scene? How good is he looking for?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Well?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
He hasn't stopped the man. The man has not stop
in six months. He has not taken a breast. He's
just super busy. He's and he's implementing what he said
he would do. He's not wasting a day. He knows how,
he knows what government can do and how how government
can make a difference in people's lives, and he's he's
determined to do that. He's determined to make sure that

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we can do the best for the people who not
only elected us, but there's a lot of people who
didn't vote for us, and we're doing the best for
them as well.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Did he make good progress with China? What do you
reckon there?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I think it was a really useful first meeting. It
sort of breaks the ice and now we've got a
long way to go in terms of trying to repair
that relationship over time. But of course we'll always do
that in our national interest. We'll put our national interests
first and as as they will put their first. But
I thought it was a really good first sign, and
of course that's good news for our exporters if we
can get that relationship back on track. I think I

(25:23):
think it was hopeful that that the President g seems
to be dipping his toe in the water internationally again
and seems to be making those those outreaches, and I
think that's a positive step. So we've got a way
to go. We'll see the next step and the next
step after that is but again we'll just we'll do
it in an orderly, methodical, calm and collected way and

(25:46):
just put to put the Australian interest first, always state
our sovereign interests. And of course, well we raised the
issue of those Australians who are detained and other other matters.
But we want to get this relationship back on track
of a major training partner, and it's better to have
a relationship with them that is respectful and mutually respectful

(26:10):
than not to have a relationship at all.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
It's going, it's going good. A question I know you're
not going to know the answer too. So look, Richard
will be doing the show next year, and I'm sure
you'll be talking to Richard, so maybe you can tell
him the answer to this, because he's asked the question
how many ties does Elbow take when he goes on
these trips, because he's made the observation that he keeps
changing the tai color every day, every press conference, he's
got a different color. I realize you're not going to

(26:32):
know the answer to that. Maybe you do.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
I think you got that right the first time. He said,
I won't know the answer that. I'm not a what
is that habidata what.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
They call a tie person. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I don't know what they're called. But I'm not as
tie as tire fashion adviser. And when you see some
of my ties, that's probably good reason for that. I'm
not a tie for Scenardo myself, I've got to wear one. Oh,
in fact, we don't have to wear one in the parliament.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Now you can scrap it. Yeah, exactly good.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah. When I get around my lecture,
I try not to beware, and I'm tired to get
away with it.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Oh they're not healthy. You look at Barnaby Joyce with
his type. Goodness, you think his head's going to explode.
It's a horrible looking thing the way, Barnaby, it's horrible.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
We just say, I know because because Mike's something gone
now but with with his issues. But you know, thank
you for having me on and thanks to Mike for
his time and the mark over the over the past
years has just been terristic and I wish you all
the best.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, I know he's enjoyed talking to you. You'll get
Richard next year and and by then you'll know the
answer to the tie question. You have a good Christmas.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
All right.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
That is Brian Mitchell, of course, a Federal Labor member
for Lions.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Listen live at Tasmania talks dot com don Au well
a UK.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
They've actually been warned that there's a recession coming the UK.
Actually some are saying they're in recession at the moment
and people should prepare for the biggest drop in living
standards in living memory, which is all very scary here
in Australia. We're not sure where it's all going. But
on the phone right now, Heather Kent, she's the chief
executive officer of Saint Vincent de Paul get A Heather, Hi,

(28:09):
how are you. I'm well. Are you've seeing lots more
people come through your doors who are struggling?

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Yeah, yeah, we absolutely are. And this has been going
on for some time now. I'm sure that won't surprise you.
But the numbers continue to escalate, and that's what concerns
us most, especially because many of us in the community
are starting to think ahead to Christmas only a few
short weeks away, and we're excited about that, but for
too many in our community, it's a time of stress
and way, what are the some of.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
The stories you're hearing from people coming in? Are there
people already losing their houses or is that still to come?

Speaker 7 (28:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:42):
Look, there are people who are making significant changes in
any endeavor not to lose their house. They're making choices
that none of us should have to make. When we
launched this appeal only a couple of days ago, I.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Met with Kerry.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
She's a young mum, she's got four kids. She's recently
had her rental increase even further, it's now at nine
hundred and when she sat down with our Vini's members
and started to figure out budgeting and how she could service.
That and the cost of gas that she's got for
her accommodation, which is rising as well. She comes down
to about twenty three dollars a week to get by

(29:15):
on and when you've got four kids, that doesn't offer
a lot of joy or hope.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I would reckon it can't be done, can it can't
actually be done?

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Yeah. So our purpose is to
provide hope, to provide support, and to serve people in
our community who need this support.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Right now, I think it's going to get worse before
it gets better. When you said nine hundred dollars, you're
talking nine hundred dollars a month for the rent. No
one fortnight, oh fortnite Okay.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yep, yep. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
So for a young mum with four kids, that's a
hell of a lot of money. It's a two bedroom place.
She's really doing it tough. Her kids have been unwell.
We've had quite a cold snap and we had a
few lovely warm days last week tho've become unwell. And
so then there's the cost of medication, the fact that
they have to miss school, the role on effects, all

(30:06):
the riddles that go through. That's what our members are
seeing every day.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
You do other things too. You don't just raise money
for by selling things. You've also got financial counseling for
people that I guess, like the lady you're just talking
about Cary, I think you said, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
That's right. So we offer financial counseling, so supporting budgeting.
We provide connections. I guess that's probably a really powerful
thing that Vinnie does. It's a connector in helping people
to know where should they step to next for further support.
But we do provide emergency relief with food carts and
pure carts and even meals out of our pantry basic items.

(30:43):
We did a food bend drive at about two months
ago now, and the response to that was enormous. It
was people just putting a few staple items in the
shopping trolley when they head on off and bringing them
into to Vinnie. That went brilliantly. Well, But can I
say we need more?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
We need more?

Speaker 7 (31:00):
Poor for support is just enormal?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Gosh, Well, how many people a day would come through
your doors asking for help? Is that a question that
you can answer? I don't think you're probably.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Good so yes it could because we do keep records.
But I couldn't tell you off the top of my head.
What I can say is that we sat down and
did the sum the kind of support that we provided
over the course of the last year. We're about to
have our annual report released as many organizations suits, and
it ticked just sober a million dollars of support. So
that the hell of a lot of need that occurs in.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Acuity when things start to go pair shaped in an economy,
domestic violence always seems to raise its head. You're seeing
is that going up in there?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yep, yeap.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
So we have managers in each of our regents who
work with the Vinni's members and they provide me with
a report on what's occurring. I joined Vinni's two months
ago and it's been sobering, concerning and a reminder of
what is really appearing in corners of our community that

(32:03):
often goes unhurt, and what other members of the community
who might find themselves in a more fortunate position. We're
all experiencing the precious of cost of living, but it's
important to just pause and remind ourselves of what others
might be going through and how it can help.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Would you say that it's worse than you expected.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Yes, yes, it would, I think so. I've had quite
a lot to do with Vinnie's Ta Maine or over
many many years. I often work late in the Lonnie
office and it's about the time when the Vinnie's ban
volunteers come back in in the evening, and I love
to have a chat with our volunteers, and can I
say we need more of those folks as well to

(32:43):
understand more about their experience on the streets in the evenings.
They're telling me that they're meeting people who are sometimes employed,
sometimes they're working several jobs, they have kids, they have families,
and they're just finding that they can't cope. So we
know that our Vinnie's bands offer an important array of
service in a variety of way. So it provides food,

(33:05):
their food, they sandwiches, you knowed some folks take the
sandwiches so that their kids have got school lunches the
next day.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
They're just basic items, you know, even personal hygiene items,
small items of clothing. It's often where that connection is
made where we can begin to provide further support and
really scaffold and with all of the elements that they need.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
The homeless situation. At least I can talk in Tasmania.
It's probably the same across there's probably worse in some areas.
I'd reckon. But a lot of the people now that
are finding themselves homeless, and not the traditional homeless people
are they. These are people that, as you say, working,
they're going to school. I knew of one lady with
kids living in a car and somehow she was still
working and they were still going to UNI, and no

(33:49):
one would have known that they were living in a car,
but they were somehow living in a car. Do you
hear those stories a lot?

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (33:56):
We do, Yeah, and count firking if there are common
There's a growing cohort of older women as well. These
are often women who, let's say they're so relative when
I say older, but you know they might be about
sixty and the kids have grown up and become independent,
and you know, during that woman's life, she's probably had

(34:18):
some time out of work in order to raise those kids.
The superanuation hasn't been as well developed as perhaps others,
and suddenly she finds herself in a situation where with
rising demand, rent's gone up, coustous everything has gone up,
and suddenly at a point in life where she thought,
you know, things might be looking sweet. She doesn't want
to turn to her kids and say, you know, can

(34:39):
I come and stay with you? These are human dignity
elements where people that you would not accept as finding
themselves in extreme challenge.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
If you're on the pension now and you have no
super it's virtually impossible to pay rent.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Isn't it correct?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's just impossible. What should the government to be doing
the government to have to do more, and they have
to do something very short term. Whenever they talk about
housing us talking to Rogie Yensch the other day, and
whenever they start talking about the homeless problem, they always
start the sentence has to contain months at the least
and probably years, sometimes decades. They don't seem to understand

(35:15):
that this is actually happening right now.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
Yeah, and you are right, it's multi faceted. There's no
quick fix. I wish there was, and that's where organizations
like Venues do provide that immediate relief wherever we can.
A large part of our focus is, however, on advocacy.
I joined with each of the other Binny Society CEOs
up in Canberra a couple of weeks ago, and we

(35:39):
were working hard to increase the voice of those who
need to be heard in federal politics. But it's not
just a federal politics level. Obviously, we hear a great
deal about the homes Tasmania legislation that's come through, the
commitment to building ten thousand new homes in the next
ten years. But even at local government looking at planning.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Approvals, yeah, it's just taking too long. They need something
short term, even if it's just pods somewhere that are
just temporary. That's what they need. It's going to happen
straight away. But no one understands.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
I know.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, so you can say it now. You tell the
government exactly what they should be doing.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Go on, ye, well, yep, turn their mind to those
immediate solutions. Be novel, be innovative, look at what can
be done now. I would urge residents who might be
concerned about what's popping up next to them to avoid that.
Not in my backyard philosophy, we do find that that
is a resistor for many When things are set to go,

(36:38):
often that's where they get closed down. Been in conversation
with a container company only in the last few days
because we use some name them up roreal Wolf containers
for emergency crisis accommodation.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Somebody suggested that a couple of years ago, and no
one listened. No one listened.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
Yeah, there's a few who have so, yeah, we've got eighteen.
We're looking yeah, so and they are fully kitted out.
They've got a small bathroom, they've ventilated so that they
are offering dignified living and we're looking at expanding that concept.
That's the conversation that I've been having with Rob from
the last few days. And of course then we need
to say to state government, okay, here's a solution. Yes,

(37:18):
it's short term. We know it's not ideal, but we
know that our men who live at Bethlehem House in Hobart,
there are twenty five bits of them at our old
Bethlehem House and there are eighteen pods and buy in
large days you prefer to live in the pods. We've
managed to fit them out with support and we are
working with state government on this initiative. It's an area
that we'd like to see far more action.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
All right, you need money to do this. Let's get
into this appeal that's happening right now. How can people
be a part of that.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Yep, Okay, you're absolutely right. We do need everybody to
think about what they can do as sisters. We know
we're all doing it tough, but we're aiming to raise
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars between now and Christmas.
It's big target, but we've done it before and we
know that if everybody really thinks about it and does
what they can to help, that'll make a difference. So
our website, Benny's tes dot org dot au, or we've

(38:05):
got a phone hotline that we really hope is going
to be going crazy, and that's simply thirteen eighteen twelve.
I would add one final one. A partnership that we've
just established with IgA will start kicking on the first
of December and in their eighty six stores across Tasmania,
they'll have a little item there, a poster a little
bar code scam beside it every register. So consider popping

(38:27):
into your like I TA as.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well and doing what you can to support do everything
you can. Okay, what was that webpage again before I sagabye.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Yep, Vinny's Tess dot org dot au.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
That's an easy one, isn't it Heathercamp, chief executive officer,
two hundred and fifty grand needed before the before Christmas.
Good luck, hope it's all going to happen. Talk to
you very soon.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
Thanks again.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Take care.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
This is tas Talk.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Listen live at Tasmania Talks dot com dot au.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
This is Tasmania Talks. Big hour on the way. Says
about just around the corner. We'll talk to her about
all sorts of things, but right now talking about Danny Gibson.
Isn't this a strange situation. We're going to be talking
about somebody else and I don't even know we're doing it.
Jenny Finlay's on the line, Get a Janey, Hey, how
are you? I'm alright, we're here to talk about Danny.
What do you know about Danny? Got any gossip anything? Anything?

Speaker 4 (39:16):
You know what.

Speaker 9 (39:16):
I sat in on the council meeting yesterday. It was
the first meeting for the new council and I went
in because I, you know, I just love Danny and
I love the pathway that he's taken, and he's you know,
he's courage and he's excellency in being elected as mayor,
and I just wanted to see him settling into that
new role and just to check out the new council and.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
See how just see how it's going, see if Janey
Finlay approves. Just for people who are new to the
era or whatever. You were mayor here from about what
two thousand and what was it two thousand and one
or something?

Speaker 9 (39:44):
Is that right twenty years ago?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Crazy h And you were the youngest mayor in Australia
at twenty something seventh time?

Speaker 9 (39:53):
Yeah, I was early twenties. Actually, wasn't that young? I
think I was like twenty five, twenty six.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Does it mean that all mayors have to be really old?

Speaker 6 (40:00):
No?

Speaker 9 (40:01):
No, no, no, And now since then there's been far younger.
They's all across the country. But back then, you know,
local government was sometimes a place where older people remained.
But since then, you know, local government has just grown
extraordinarily and it's great.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
It does a lot more than it used to do,
isn't it? Before it was just you know, roads and
trees and stuff, and that was it wasn't.

Speaker 9 (40:24):
Yes, that's right, Well we can still do more with trees, yes, yes,
but yes, yeah, no. The role of local government has
really opened up and has been demonstrated by this new council,
you know, a really diverse council has been elected by
the community, and the role and the care and the
engagement has really been broadened out, and it's wonderful and

(40:44):
it was great to be in the Chamber yesterday and
see the new council settle into their role.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Do you think they all know what's going on yet
or do they still have that sort of deal with
the headlights shone in their faces? Look?

Speaker 9 (40:55):
Oh well, I can tell you if my experience in
parliament's anything to.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
Do with it.

Speaker 9 (40:59):
I'm a year and a half in Parliament now and
I'm a bit here in the headlights sometimes. But you know,
what I can tell is from conversations that I've had
and people that I've spoken to that they've been on
a really great induction program over the last couple of weeks.
I did see a couple of people look a little
bit stunned around the table, but what I also saw
was beautiful from the re elected counselors. There were some

(41:21):
counselors asking questions and you know, just getting settled in,
and the counselors that have been there for a while
were really I thought, you know, gentle and kind in
the way that they were explaining things, and even the
way Danny chaired the meeting. He was really encouraging in
his feedback. There were a number of councilors yesterday that
students spoke for the first time on the first item
before council, and that's great because in my time there

(41:45):
were some people that never stood and spoke.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
It is daunting. I've stood in there and spoken, not
as a counselor obviously, but for various things, and it's
bloody terrifying. It's bizarre. There's not many people there, and
I mean I did it, and I was standing there
the microphone and all these people were gruping at me,
and I'm thinking, I'm used to public speaking. I don't
care who's this thing, But all of a sudden, I
feel absolutely terrified. I'm not sure whether it was the

(42:09):
room or the way it was set up or what.
I don't know. Everyone's looking at me and they're all smiling,
and you think, as soon as I stopped talking, you're
just going to ignore me and in vote this thing through.
And it was very weird. It was a horrible experience.

Speaker 9 (42:22):
But you know what I loved and what I loved
about Danny chairing the meeting in his role as mayor,
and he made it really clear and was very encouraging
to counsels. You know, the first time is the hardest time.
And you know, once you've done something once and we
all know that, isn't it. Once you do something once,
maybe it doesn't quite go to planned and then you
do it again, you do it again, it becomes more natural.
And that's been my approach in the Parliament as well.

(42:44):
Every time there's an opportunity, I stand and have a
go and you sort of learn by doing as much
as you can. Have things explained in induction, but once
you give.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
It a go.

Speaker 9 (42:54):
But I'm really comfortable and confident about this council. There's
some great people around the table and I know that
once they find their feet, they'll work really well together.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
It's interesting you mentioned some of the older people that
are still there, or the ones that are still there
they've got voted back in. We shouldn't call them old.
I suppose compulsory voting. Do you think do you think
the compulsory voting will mean that some of those people
that just kind of go in there vote and then
go away again and you never hear of me from
one election to the next, do you think they'll be

(43:23):
more inclined to get out and about and have their
faces seen and do stuff for people.

Speaker 9 (43:30):
Well, I think it's really clear that the people that
have been re elected are very heavily engaged in the
community and very well respected in the community. I mean,
you've got Danny and Andrea, and Alan and Hugh and Tim,
and they're great contributors, and they've been around and the
way that they contribute.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Is really they're all familiar faces, aren't they. I guess so.
I mean with compulsory voting, though, I mean, you can't
just have your supporters every time. You've really got to
get out there and do stuff. You've got to make
sure that people realize that you're working hard for them.

Speaker 9 (44:00):
And I mean that's that's democracy, isn't it. And that's
public life as well, which that should always be the
minimum standard for being able to represent your community. And
like you said, maybe this makes that more so. I
know that the returns were lifted significantly by this, but
not you know, not everybody participated. But it takes a

(44:20):
little while to figure that out that this one had
actually changed and it was compulsory, but I think the
mix of people that got elected are definitely a broad
representation of the you know, the mix of people in
our community. And that's wonderful to seat.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
That's what you want, isn't it. How did Danny actually go?
Was he what do you talk about in this speech?

Speaker 4 (44:42):
You know what I love?

Speaker 9 (44:44):
So so what I love is that the opening parts
of council are quite formalized in that first meeting. So
it was beautiful to have Auntie Sharon there provide a
welcome to country and Danny very respectfully and I could
tell was really appreciated, genuinely appreciated by Arnie Sharon. He
in reply offered an acknowledgment of country. So that was

(45:06):
a beautiful part. I think that's one of Danny's streets,
being very you know, embracing and genuinely loving of, you know,
people in our community.

Speaker 7 (45:16):
So that was good.

Speaker 9 (45:17):
And then it sort of rocks off pretty fast and
pretty hard, and you get public question time, public question
time to be questions just you know, you don't actually
know what's going to come at you.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
That's a really brutial because you're, yeah, it's.

Speaker 9 (45:30):
A real test of you're understanding what's actually going on
at the moment and your ability to respond. And he
did get some curly questions, and he got a number
of questions from a number of people, and he dealt
with it again really respectfully. I think it's really easy
to be defensive when you're being asked questions and perhaps
be a little bit negative, but you know, and I
think also, you know, cutting people off if they're a

(45:52):
little bit off track can sometimes be counter productive to
allowing people to have their say and then they feel
like they've been heard. So I was really impressed with
how he managed that at the beginning of the meeting,
and then also how he moved through into the planning
Authority and both encouraged but provided feedback to the councilors
on their contribution.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
It's interesting that the planning I was going to say,
it's interesting that the planning Authority was I believe I
think one of the first things that the induction classes covered,
which I sort of thought no, I thought that was
only a fairly minor part of what council did, but
they chose to make it almost the first thing that
was done. Am I right in that?

Speaker 9 (46:32):
And I think, yeah, I think legally there's a lot
of responsibility and technical responsibility when you sit as a
planning authority, and it's not often well understood in the
community and therefore not well understood by new members because
you might have feelings about something, but it's actually the
technical framework that you have to make the decision within.

(46:55):
And so I think it is really important and great
that they did do that induction right up. And it
will take time, you know, the planning, the planning scheme
is complex. Decisions are always quite varied. I know that
they made a change straight up where we used to
go on this thing called the bus strip and visit
the development sites, and it used to be on the
day of the meeting, and I brought that back a

(47:18):
whole week in advance. And that's a great improvement because
it means you get to go out on site, see
what people are talking about, are concerned about, see what
the development's about, and then consider that and ask questions
of the officers before it comes to the table. And
it is really important, you know, development's important for our
economic growth, for the liveability of the SAUL.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I could be awkward at this point and say if
you're if you're making decisions purely based on legal frameworks.
What's the point of the bus? Does it matter if
you go and look at something, because you're going to
have to go back and make that decision based on
I'm just being awkward now.

Speaker 9 (47:53):
But no, no, no, that's not awkward. It's a great question.
There are actually degrees of there's sort of provisioning the
scheme for reasonableness, so measures of reasonableness, So there are
areas of discretion where it might be that this is
a rule, but if it doesn't meet the rule, then
there's an allowable threshold of consideration. And it's pretty much

(48:17):
only those matters development applications.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
There's some degree of discretion or I've.

Speaker 9 (48:23):
Got discretions that go to the table. So something that
comes to the table comes to the table because it's tricky.
A lot of things happen under delegation in the organization,
and those tricky ones the councilors get to make the
decision within the parameters of those discretions. Reay, is it
reasonable that this discretion is applied?

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I'm cutting you off because there's a delay on the phone.
Is how often would you expect, based on your experience
for these new counselors to have to by law vote
in something that is absolutely horrible, just as a wanting to.
Then how often did it happen to you?

Speaker 9 (49:00):
It depends what the definition of absolutely horrible is.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
I guess, well, we know that some of the things
that council will prove is just bloody disgusting. Some of
it is just horrible.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
So I mean, I know in my time at council
there were times where counsel would make the decision to
refuse an application with the intention that it would go
back to the developer and for the community to negotiate
an outcome or maybe look and seeing if there were
a different approach that could be taken. It didn't happen
very often, but it might have happened once or twice

(49:33):
a year.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, and that would be bigger developments, I suppose something
that's going to change the look at the place.

Speaker 9 (49:39):
Often the tricky ones are this, you know, not always
big developments. There could be that there's a you know,
a small community or a small street scape or a
Harry streetscape that's having a small detail amended, and you know,
there's different ways of approaching it. It's not always a
big development.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Interesting do you think this new council just to finish
up is going to be unified or divisive? What do
you reckon? Are they a friendly lite?

Speaker 5 (50:04):
No?

Speaker 9 (50:04):
My, you know, one of the reasons why I went
yesterday I just wanted to see how it felt. And
my feeling is, and having spoken to a few of
the councilors I've seen them at a few different events
and functions around since the election, is that it's going
to be a unified council and I think Danny is
going to be really committed to working with each of
the individual counselors to bring out their strength, yep, to

(50:25):
help them understand responsibilities and things as they come up
at a new But you know, everyone at that table
clearly motivated, passionate about the city and motivated to do well.
So I think it's going to be a great council yep.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Excellent stuff. And Danny, of course is a good peacemaker,
isn't he. I think he's probably very good at negotiating
and settling people's opinions and settling people down. I suppose
absolutely we value your opinion. Jennie Dickinson, you're in there,
or Jenny Finlay, see look at that I'm calling you
your old name. Sorry, but I knew I was going
to slip out at some point. Just comes out. Jenny Finlay,

(50:58):
of course, member for Bass, Labor, member for bass. Thank
you for your opinion. It's interesting to see and probably
catch up again next year. You're doing anything for Christmas exciting?

Speaker 5 (51:09):
You know what?

Speaker 9 (51:09):
It's very much out of my nature to one hundred
percent switch off. But I have submitted my intention to
take a bit of leave over summer yep, so it's
not going to be exciting. I'm going to have a
very dull and boring and RESTful Christmas New Year, and
I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Sounds like pure bliss.

Speaker 9 (51:24):
Talk to you soon, Yeah, thank you bye.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
That's Jennie Finlay.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Listen live at Tasmania Talks dot com dot AU.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I was about to say on the line that we've
actually got a proper human being in the studio, Sez
Bauer get a sizz Hi, how you going? I'm very
well in there. Now you're here on a couple of fronts,
I guess. Firstly we're talking in regards to the Northern. Now,
first of all, we're talking about let's do the first one.
First show, to get you decigned the order, the countrywide

(51:55):
hydrogen and the loncessin airport. There's a connection there. It's
not immediately obvious tell us what the connection is.

Speaker 10 (52:01):
Yeah, So this is a fantastic opportunity that an MoU
was signed yesterday to actually conduct a feasibility study into
the airport producing putting in solar panels on their vacant
land to actually produce electricity to go into a hydrogen plant,
so that Countrywide can actually put a refueling station in
the industrial estate out there, mostly for heavy vehicles to

(52:25):
start with, but obviously it has as we move forward
and the technology gets you know, catches up with us,
it will be for cars.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
And that's an interesting thing. I mean, a lot of
people say that it's not a very efficient way of
using the power from the sun, but if it's excess power,
it's a terrific way to use it, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (52:45):
So it's actually something that can feed straight into produce.
You know, obviously when you're looking at a hydrogen To
produce hydrogen, you need two things well three, actually you
need water, you need electricity, and you need an electrolyizer
that it goes through and then you know, out pops
hydrogen and the byproduct is oxygen, so.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
That the electoralizer is at Belbay.

Speaker 10 (53:03):
No, so the elect they're looking at putting the electoralizer
in the heavy industrial estate, so that'll be part of
the feasibility studies.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
So this goes out out at Western Junction.

Speaker 11 (53:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (53:13):
So I guess from a bbam's ed point of view,
our responsibility is not just bel Bay when we talk
about hydrogen, it's actually around the whole state and it's
it's kind of really cool.

Speaker 11 (53:22):
The way that this came about was when I was
actually campaigning.

Speaker 10 (53:26):
I had a fair bit to do with Shane at
the airport and I got to know what his vision
was for the airport and.

Speaker 11 (53:31):
Around especially around green ambitions.

Speaker 10 (53:35):
I guess for the for a regional airport because you know,
they are the best regional airport in Australia for a reason,
and he wants to keep that title obviously.

Speaker 11 (53:44):
So he had these.

Speaker 10 (53:44):
Grand plans, and because I have my hydrogen connections, I
was able to hook the two up.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Together to get them together. I was looking at this
originally and thinking where does the connection come in? So
that's how it is. That's a connection So the idea
in the nutshell is you get the you get the
electricity for from vacant land at the airport, which must
have remained vacant obviously, because so and that. Then that
then I guess, or half of that ends up being
turned into hydrogen.

Speaker 11 (54:11):
From electricity it'll feed.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Into yeah, and then you take the hydrogen to bel Bay.

Speaker 10 (54:16):
No, no, no, So the hydrogen will actually stay in
the industrial estate as a refueling station so that your
heavy transport so trucks will be able to refuel there
and we'll be able to convert, you know, start getting
some hydrogen trucks on the road in Tazzi, which is
exactly what we want.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
What an amazing thing, Yeah, what an amazing thing. Apparently
you can run a petrol car on hydrogen somehow. I'm
not sure what has to happen to the hydrogen, but
if it can be done reasonably straightforwardly without too many
losses in the system, I guess is what it comes
down to.

Speaker 11 (54:49):
There are hydrogen vehicles around the market for.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
That would be absolutely huge because it would mean I mean,
it would probably still make your car more expensive to
run than an electric car. But if you don't do
a lot of miles in your car, you may still
be better off keeping your old car and running it
on some sort of weird hydrogen mixed I'm giving you ideas,
aren't they. And if you go away and do something

(55:12):
with these ideas, a lot of people will benefit.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (55:15):
Well, currently there are some hydrogen vehicles on the market.

Speaker 10 (55:19):
And to give you an idea, this so like at
the refueling station where the hydrogen will be produced by
the solar panels as the electricity source can actually produce
around two tons per day of hydrogen. Now to give
you an example of what that means for an everyday vehicle,
and every day vehicle takes about.

Speaker 11 (55:36):
Five and a half to six kilograms of hydrogen at all. Yeah,
that's all.

Speaker 10 (55:40):
And at the moment it's around fifteen dollars a kilogram,
so it's actually on par and a little bit, if
not a little bit cheaper than what we're paying right
now for petrol.

Speaker 11 (55:49):
And so that's what and you know, as we know,
when you now to the range, this is what I love.

Speaker 10 (55:56):
About hydrogen versus evs. At the moment, I'm sure EV's
will as a technology gets better.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
The range issue is and it's the range.

Speaker 10 (56:03):
Yeah, so for a full tank, you know, for that
six kilograms, that will actually get you between eight hundred
to one thousand kilometers in a car, So it's a
fair bit longer than a charge will for an even.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
The downfall, I guess is the fact that I think
if you use hydrogen it takes double the amount of
electricity to get you x amount of hydrogen. And then
if you just use the electricity, but then you've got
the range issue.

Speaker 10 (56:28):
So yeah, and that's why heavy transport in particular is
very interested in hydrogen because, as we know, the only
thing that it emits is a bit of water out
your exhaust pipes.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
So even if it costs double to run than an
electric truck, it's still a whole lot cheaper than petrol.

Speaker 10 (56:44):
Well, it's around the talk that as well, so an
electric vehicle will find it very difficult to tow you know,
you know, so a heavy load, where hydrogen doesn't have
that issue. So that's why hydrogen is being more looked
at in the heavy transport area because of that ability
to have heavy loads that it doesn't really affect it.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Goodness me, Okay, I've learned a whole lot here. This
is amazing stuff. I just want to keep my old
car and I don't want to buy in your car
too miserable had it for years. We're tooking resumes as well.
This is something else, so we're mixing up everything. I've
got something here. This is a letter. I presume it's real,
and I thought maybe what I would do is get
you to read it out. Read it out nice and

(57:24):
slowly so everyone can absorb it. It doesn't have anyone's
name on it, so over to you.

Speaker 10 (57:31):
So it says application for employment. I refer to the
recent death of the technical that's unfortunate technical manager at
your company, and hereby apply for the replacement of the
deceased manager. Each time I apply for a job, I
get a reply that there was no vacancy. But in
this case, I've caught you red handed and you have
no excuse because I even attended the funeral to be

(57:53):
sure that he was truly dead and buried before applying.
Attached to my letter is a copy of my CV
and his death certificate.

Speaker 11 (58:00):
Well that's a bit harsh, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
What do you think's wrong with that?

Speaker 11 (58:06):
Yeah, well, probably not the right approach.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Have you ever seen anything like that in your life.

Speaker 11 (58:12):
No I haven't. No, no, not quite.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
You'd see, you'd see a lot of people make mistakes
with resumes.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 10 (58:20):
But the thing we find with a lot of school
age people as well, though, is that they actually don't
know what their skill base is and what those transferable
skills are. So, you know, you'll talk to a fifteen
year old and you'll say what skills have you got?
And I'll go, oh, nothing, you know, I don't know anything. No,
I don't do anything. And then you start to dig
a little bit deeper and you go, well, I noticed

(58:42):
that do you play football? Oh yeah, no, no, I
play football. That's a team sport.

Speaker 11 (58:49):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. Oh, so you've got good
team skills, you know.

Speaker 10 (58:52):
And when you actually start pointing some of these things
out to young people, they go, oh, hang on, I've
got more skills than I thought of it. And that's
then what the basis that you can start with their resume.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I knew someone years ago that they didn't think they
knew anything, but I knew everything about computers, and people
would take their computers to them and say, what the
hell's going on with this? And he'd pull up bits
and fix it and it was done, and yeah, okay,
you could make money out of this.

Speaker 11 (59:14):
Ye, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 10 (59:15):
We had one guy that you kept telling us, No,
he didn't do anything, didn't do anything.

Speaker 11 (59:19):
I said, what do you do on weekends?

Speaker 6 (59:21):
You know?

Speaker 10 (59:21):
Oh? Well, Mum and dad had got this whole car
in the backyard, and I tinker with that, you know,
I take it apart, put it together. And what have
you ever thought you might want to look at it
being a car mechanic. No, I never really thought of that,
you know. So it's really opening up opportunities.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
It's paid to do something you like. Yeah, exactly, That's
all you have to do sometimes work out what should know?
I guess too. I was going to suggest here, because
things are changing. We don't know where things are going
with the economy at the moment. In theory, all all
the theory seems to tell us that unemployment should be
going up, but it's actually going down. Is it actually reversing?
Do employers actually have to try harder now to get workers?

(59:56):
Where before it was the workers who had to try
so hard to impress the employers, Now it seems to
be going the other way around.

Speaker 10 (01:00:04):
There are so many jobs out there at the moment,
which is fantastic, And that's what you know, nebub actually
does we work with the employers and young It's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
You say that because this is something I've prepared, I
have to read something here. Actually, I reckon, you've actually
seen this before. Okay, I reckon, you've seen this before,
but you have a read of that one. This is
from an employer.

Speaker 11 (01:00:28):
So do you want me to read this?

Speaker 10 (01:00:29):
Wanted for hazardous journey, small wages, bitter cold, long months
of complete darkness, constant danger, safe return, doubtful, honor and
recognition in case of success.

Speaker 11 (01:00:41):
Ernest Shackleton.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Yes, it's apparently a true ad that he put in
and people applied for the job. What would you, I mean,
what's wrong with that? I'm sure there's a bunch of
things wrong with that, Lisus. It's not false advertising, No
it's not.

Speaker 10 (01:00:55):
But I mean, we do have very truthful and open
and honest discussions with job seekers of what they're looking for,
and we also have it with our employers to what
they're looking for in a job seeker. Now, if we
went back to the employment rate that you were talking about,
even though unemployment has gone down and you know, It's
just gone down to three point four percent nationally.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Isn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:01:15):
However, when we start looking at youth unemployment, that is
still quite high. So even in Lonceston we have nearly
an eight percent youth unemployment rate. In Georgetown it's nearly
seventeen percent youth unemployment rate. So this is where we
need to and you know, to be concentrating some of
our time. And we have just received some funding from

(01:01:37):
Jobs Tasmania to actually put a youth specific position in
working in conjunction with why not to actually look at
why are young people not being able to engage and
being able to help them do that.

Speaker 11 (01:01:52):
We did have an interesting case, I must admit.

Speaker 10 (01:01:54):
With a young person saying that, look, I've got to
have constant social media breaks for really yes, so they
actually this person believed that that was an entitlement like
that that was something they're entitled to in a job.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Maybe it will be in the future, Okay, they might
be just looking into the future and seeing something we're not.

Speaker 10 (01:02:14):
And so it's having you know, look, some jobs you
can do that, you know with you can check your
social media every now and then or whatever in a
but some jobs you can't so it's really been quite
realistic about what those positions are that you can where
you can't. And again, we want to set people up
for success, not for failure. So if we know all
of this information, we can make sure we're doing the

(01:02:35):
matching properly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Looking at it in reverse, if an employer was to say, look,
you can have you know, fifteen minutes, you know, a
couple of times a day, they may get a good
applicant that that.

Speaker 11 (01:02:46):
Is exactly right.

Speaker 10 (01:02:47):
You don't want to rule anything out as well, and
so we do need to have those very frank conversations
with some of our businesses about things aren't like they
were twenty or thirty years ago.

Speaker 11 (01:02:58):
Sometimes there's got to be a bit of give and take.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeap, No, that's fair. Richard's just said here a surgeon
can't go onto sacial during surgery, probably noting just hold
this clamped, nurse. I'm going to just gone, yeah, look
at this.

Speaker 10 (01:03:13):
Well, there's certainly some areas in Bell Bay with highly
hazardous materials that are down there that you probably wouldn't
want someone checking their phone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
That's it. If I've worked in a brick factory once
and if you walked off bricks and go everywhere else.
That was the worst job I've ever done. Anyway, that's
another story, another story for another day. How do people
get involved? If you're an employer or an employee or
a employee.

Speaker 10 (01:03:37):
Especially this time of year, we know there'll be a
fair few young people leaving school and perhaps looking for
that first part time job. If they need help with
their resume, please come and see this. So we're at
one twenty three York Street, So just drop in between
ten and four anytime Monday to Friday and we'll be
able to help you out with your resume and get
something on paper for you so that you can go

(01:03:57):
out and start talking to some people and employ Otherwise,
if you actually can't because you might live in Campbelltown
or something like that, just give us a give us
a call, or get on Facebook or our website and
we'll actually come to you.

Speaker 11 (01:04:10):
And yeah, so we have a mobile service. We're place based,
so if.

Speaker 10 (01:04:15):
You're in even in Flinder's Island, so we cover Flinders Island,
the West tamer Lonceston, Georgetown, Meandervallei and Northern Midlands. So
if you're in any of those areas, please get in
touch and we can help you out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Jobs over Christmas? Do people get jobs over Christmas? Or
does it all just stop?

Speaker 10 (01:04:30):
No, there's well, certainly in the hospitality you know, so
it depends and retail in particular. There are a lot
of jobs happening, you know, needed between now and the
Christmas period and after the Christmas period, so there's a
lot of things around.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
How many hospitality jobs do you reckon? You've got all?
There's a lot.

Speaker 10 (01:04:49):
Look, there's a lot of to be quite honest, nearly
every industry you can think of, We've got jobs available
right now.

Speaker 11 (01:04:55):
So please come and have a chat to us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Goodness me and how do they contact you?

Speaker 11 (01:04:59):
So we are at one twenty three York Street if
you want to walk in.

Speaker 10 (01:05:03):
Otherwise, please get onto the website or our Facebook page
and contact.

Speaker 11 (01:05:07):
Us through there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Excellent stuff, Sasi bow I talk to you again next year.
Have a good Christmas.

Speaker 7 (01:05:10):
You two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
This is tas Mania Talk.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Listen live at Tasmania Talks dot com dot a you
as many a Talks Merril moments.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
On the line. It is Mary Knowles. Good a, Mary Knowles,
good morning.

Speaker 7 (01:05:25):
How are you. I must apologize for not being able
to be contacted the other day I had major communication
problems and was flooded in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Oh, well you were. I didn't realize you're off grid
where you are? You've been off grid for is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
Yes, thirty four years, no payer bills, Thank you very much. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Wow. People dream of being off grid now. People work
hard to be off grid and you've been doing it
for decades.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:05:48):
Absolutely, it's not that hard.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
It's not that hard. You must listen to this. It's
you know, power's going up by two hundred and fifty
six percent. You must listen to that and laugh.

Speaker 7 (01:05:56):
Well, not laugh for other people, but yes, thankful that
I'm in theation i'm in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
It's easier to be off grid now than it was
years ago, wasn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
Well, everything's so much more sophisticated now. It's a lot
easier to do. But it wasn't difficult when.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
We did it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yeah. I remember talking to Jackie French. We used to
talk to Jackie French every week about a million years ago.
And one of the meetings, because after the meeting, after
the chat on the phone, you'd say, all right, we'll
better go, but this time we just chatted a bit
too long, and she said nearly out of power. I
better go And we said, what do you mean you
nearly out of power? And she said, oh no, we
haven't been on the grid for years. And this was,
you know, twenty years ago. Probably we used to talk

(01:06:32):
to her.

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
I totally get that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
So there was a lot of people doing it back then.

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, and you don't need a huge system.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Yeah, yeah, amazing. Do you have to skimp on power
or no?

Speaker 7 (01:06:45):
No, no, just rune a normal household. Just turn everything up.
Don't waste power. When you go out of a room,
turn the light off. You go to the lou turn
the light off. The kids grew up out there. They've
become city slickers now, so when they come home, they
go out of the bedroom level. Ion have it. You
need to get into.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Around the power. You go around and well, we're all
going to have to do it soon if the power
goes up by two hundred and fifty six percent. You
didn't think you were going to be talking about this
this morning. How did the election go?

Speaker 7 (01:07:12):
There was a few issues I had we have yeah,
oh oh yeah, well a little bit, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
We lost some counselors and we've got some new counselors.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
On.

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
We've had our investiture. We have that that was on Monday.
We have an induction on next Monday, and then the
following Monday after that, on the twenty eighth, we'll have
our first meeting. So let's hope we have a good team.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Okay. And you've met them all so far obviously you have.

Speaker 7 (01:07:40):
Yes, Yes, that's them all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Now do you know them all?

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
No, there's some people there I don't know and some
that I know of and don't know particularly well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Okay. And the voting all went well at Northern Midlands
Council because it was the first Yes, oh yes.

Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
We had a high rate of I was well into
the eighty percent of you know, returns, so I think
they were quite pleased.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah, okay. Are they actually finding people who didn't vote
because this was the first time it was compulsory.

Speaker 7 (01:08:08):
Yes, I don't know. Yes, there was a suggestion that
that's what they're going to do, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
I sort of wondered whether they were going to let
people off because quite often when it's the first time
for something like that, they let you off on the
first one and then get you the next time. So
everythings possible they do it that way all right. Now,
things happening around the place. This is Meyrior moments. You're
the mayor Northern Midlands Council. You've got some stuff happening.
Festival's festival's garden show.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
What's that?

Speaker 7 (01:08:34):
Absolutely well without all the rain, this is actually a
wonderful time of year in Northern Tasmania and in particularly
in the Northern Midlands. So next this weekend is coming weekend,
we have the Longs of Blooms which is on both
days this weekend, so it's a matter of wandering through
the beautiful gardens in Longford. There is a ticket cost
that's fifteen dollars. Tension is ten dollars and you can

(01:08:57):
get a weekend past the twenty four dollars and children's five.
So they're raising funds for the Helping Hand Association and
also for Care for Africa foundations. So it's all going
to a good cause.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
And that's on this weekend this weekend, coming this weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:09:14):
Yes, and you can get your tickets through Facebook, Instagram
or you can purchase them at the Village Green Okay, yeah,
and also this weekend, same plate or same location. This
is in the town hall the Longford Garden Shower having
their annual Spring Festival flower Show, so yeah, that happens
each year. It's a fifty fourth annual flower show and

(01:09:35):
they'll have roses and irises and cup flowers and collections
collections of flowers are children's collections and that's a gold
coin donation at the Longford Town Hall.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Excellent and hay fevers free.

Speaker 7 (01:09:48):
Absolutely and again over the same weekend we have the
garden Tour of the Blenheim Garden, beautiful, beautiful garden at
seven point thirty three Cressy Road. That's got you get
a personalized tour of the garden and you can hear
all about the history and the history of the place
and the garden development over the last thirty years. But

(01:10:10):
also there's the very unique Carlton Cox Lino Cut exhibition there,
so you can enjoy a glass of Tasmania wine or
craft beer while you enjoy the exhibition and the gardens.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
What they used to do open gardens a lot, didn't
they years ago? What happened to those?

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
Yes, Oh that's happening again. Actually, that's what this weekend's
all about.

Speaker 12 (01:10:31):
They're coming back absolutely, yes, yes, And on the Sunday
we've got the Festival of Roses out at Wilmoth, which
is just stunning, thousands of roses in bloom in the
National Rose Garden.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
That rose is huge, how many, how many? It's like
about an acre or something.

Speaker 7 (01:10:47):
Oh, yes, we could even be more than that. It's
just massive. Yes, it's just lovely out there. So that's
on on the Sunday. And then next weekend we have
from the Veranda Music Festival. That's just a wonderful, wonderful
event at Evandale Quirky Music on Verandas all sorts of
performers we've got just only name a few, Nellie Jacob Booped,

(01:11:13):
the Bill Evans Trio, the Cus Brothers on the clatsure
how to pronounce that and that's what this is on
the Saturday, and they've got a harmonica workshop. You bring
your own harmonica along and I guess they teach how.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
To play it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
And on the Sunday. This is only a few of
the different events on different Verandas we've got the Roundabouts,
the Marvelous Hearts, Steve Cooper Trio, the Stranded Whalers, and
they have a ukulele workshop then you bring your own ukulele.
So there's some certainly plenty to do in Evandale.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
And of course the market on Sunday.

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
That's exactly right. You've got the market on the Sunday
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Sorry, that's just so, that's all right.

Speaker 7 (01:11:59):
We's got quite a few things on, yes, go for it.
On the twenty sixth in Longford, the Longford Jazz Club
have they're presenting Tony Pantano.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
He does els, doesn't he? Is he the Elvis in personal?

Speaker 7 (01:12:13):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:12:15):
I haven't actually heard him myself, but I do believe
that's right. And that's on at the Longford Town Hall
and the doors open at six thirty and it's the
tickets of fifty dollars, so I don't know if there's
tickets left. That's pretty popular, I think. And then on
the eleventh of December we've got the Shannon's Classic Car
Show in Campbelltown that's raising money for the Salvation Army.

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That's their their car charity show, all for the classic
vehicles from nineteen ten to nineteen ninety. And to get
any more information you contact Rod at zero four zero
eight three one four three nine ezy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Yes, yes, you got so much done.

Speaker 7 (01:12:59):
It's the perfect place to Yes, well not this, this
is for February. Don't forget that. The Vandalehill Village there
and Penny Farthing Championships will be back on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yes. Have you ever been talked into going for a
ride on one of those.

Speaker 7 (01:13:12):
Mary, No, I'm not that brave.

Speaker 6 (01:13:15):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
They tried to get me on one years ago and
I'm sure I'd be okay while I was running, but
after that it would all be very bad. Off to
the hospital life.

Speaker 7 (01:13:24):
Well, that's right, and we have several markets on in
lots of the different towns. Campbelltown has got a market
on the November the twenty seventh, Evandale markets on every Sunday,
and a voc has got a lovely Christmas market coming
up on Saturday the third of December.

Speaker 12 (01:13:39):
So yeah, there's lots and lots of places to explore
amazing stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
You're going to be busy. Mary Knowle's Northern Midlands Council
talk to you probably next year. Indeed, you have a
good run, see you know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Listenlive at Tasmania Talks dot com dot au Tasmania Talks
Weather on the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Phone to tell us all the good news. It's Brook today, Brook,
Good morning, Good morning, Am Am I preempting something here.
Good news right across the weekend, not right across.

Speaker 8 (01:14:14):
The weekend, but there is good news for today.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
I was being a politician. I was being a politician.
Politicians think that if they keep saying something over and over,
it will become true. You see.

Speaker 8 (01:14:25):
See, if you make leading statements, sometimes it works.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
It doesn't work with the weather, evidently.

Speaker 8 (01:14:31):
No, unfortunately not so it is going to remain mostly
fine today. There's been a little bit of cloud build
up during the morning, so to be partly cloudy for
the rest of today, but fine apart from possible light
showers along the east coast and about elevated areas in
the north. Unfortunately, the fine weather does not continue over
the weekend. We're expecting a rainband to sweep across the

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state from the northwest from Saturday afternoon through until Sunday morning,
and then following that rainband as own to be showery
for a number of days, particularly into the west of
the state, and then if we go in addition to that,
we're also going to see a return to very wintry
conditions on Monday, with the snow lowering to around four

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hundred or five hundred meters and even hail, small hail
and gusty winds.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
It doesn't get it much worse than that, does it.
I mean we could be in Forbes.

Speaker 8 (01:15:23):
We could Yes, we could be underwater, which would be
much worse. And speaking of flooding, there are still minor
flood warnings current for the Macquarie and Meander rivers. Those
are receding at the moment and it's an easing trend
for the next couple of days, but the rain over
the weekend is likely to lead to renewed minor and
possibly isolated moderate flooding for the northwest and the north

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of the state.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
It doesn't get much worse, and that doesn't No, there's.

Speaker 8 (01:15:50):
Been a lot of flooding over the last few weeks,
so it just seems to keep going on and on.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Okay, all right, you'll keep us up to date, of
course right through. Have we got any warnings for the
short term?

Speaker 13 (01:16:01):
At least I suppose for today there aren't any strong
wind warnings, but for tomorrow there are strong wind warnings
for all coastal waters except the Central North Coast and
Bank Straight and Franklin Sound, and also a strong wind
warning for Storm Bay and that's with increasing northeasterly winds
during the day, So tomorrow is going to become windier,
and it'll.

Speaker 8 (01:16:21):
Also be warm before we get that shock to the
system on Monday, when we'll see maximum temperatures up to
ten degrees below average.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Okay, so there we go. So tomorrow morning's looking all right,
then after that it's just horrible by the sounds of things.
Anything else we need to add, Brook.

Speaker 8 (01:16:39):
No, I think that's that's about off. I will do
the coastal water's overview for those mariners there looking to
head out this afternoon. We've got southeast to northeasterly winds
at five to fifteen knots. They will tends northeasterly ten
to twenty knots during the evening and reach up to
twenty five knots about the northwest. The swells in the
west and south are southwesterly of two to three meters,

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and the wave rider boy at Cape Sorell is currently
reading three meters in the north or westerly below one meter,
and in the east the south to southeasterly of one
to one and a half meters, although southwesterly two meters
offshore in the south and the wave rider boy at
Mariah Island is currently reading one point two meters.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
All right, what's the currents book?

Speaker 8 (01:17:23):
The current temperatures round the state? Hobart sitting on sixteen degrees,
Lon Sestern slightly warmer with seventeen along the northwest coast,
Devenport's fifteen, Winyard fourteen for the bas Straight Islands, King
Island seventeen, Flinders Island sixteen and the warmest part of
the state is over in the west was strawn already
at eighteen degrees.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
It's looking good for today. We'll we'll just concentrate on that,
won't we We'll just hope.

Speaker 8 (01:17:47):
That we have Groundhog Day instead of what's actually going
to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Okay, you've cast a bit of a gloom over the room,
I tell you all right, Brook, you have a good weekend. Okay,
took to you soon you two.

Speaker 8 (01:17:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Listenlive at as many A Talks dot com dot us.
Get out and get social with golf balls and croquet
at Devonport Country Class has Mania Talks. It's time for
bike soapbox. It's your station, it's your saying. Call now
on one three hundred double o ten twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
And on the soapbox we have Ron. Gooday, Ron, how
are you today?

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Thanks?

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
Halling yourself mate?

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Pretty good, pretty good. You wanted to talk about hydrogen
because we were talking about that just a little while
ago in regards to making hydrogen at the airport. Sounds
like a pretty good plan, doesn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Yeah, that's all. That's all, well and good.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Now the solar, the solar business.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
Yes, I read an article on a news site the
other day where I was going to introduce a some tax.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Yeah, I have heard something about this. I guess the
government just do that, don't they. If there's something that's free,
they have to text it. I don't know how they're
going to tax the sun tax? Do they work care?
How much? How much power are you generating?

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
Or something?

Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
I don't know. I just read the article and PAS
Network was one of the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
Companies trying to get it in. Yeah, And I just
wondering if you'd heard anything about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
I've heard it mentioned. But how it's supposed to work?
I have no idea. The government find a way of
taxing stuff that normally is free. I suppose, but I
would gosh, how would you do it? I mean, they
already give you miserable amounts for any power that you
generate and sell back to them, and maybe they're maybe

(01:19:37):
their incomes dropping so much because people have got solar
on their roof that they need to claw back more money.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Well, I'm I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
Liveout mistakes or so, so I rely on my solar
and I don't see why I should have to pay
a sun tax for my power.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
If you're not. Are you on the grid, No, you're
not on the grid. I don't know if they can,
if there's any way of actually doing it. If you're
off the grid, do you have to pay AURRA anything
or has networks or whatever it is? Yeah, okay, and
that doesn't matter whether you've got a wire going past
your property or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
Oh well we've done across IDT. I gonna put the
hydro into my property years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Yeah. Yeah, because you've got to pay for your own
poles and things, don't you, poles and line and everything. Yeah,
just too much. I look said, I would reckon. I
don't know. I'm just talking off the top of my
head that I would suspect that if there's such a
thing as a sun tax, if it comes into being.
It will probably be only for people that are attached
to the network. I reckon, because they're not going to

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be able to send bills to people if they're not
even connected to the network. No one will pay that.
You're just going to say, look, sorry, you're charging me
for no service. I don't I don't even have your product.
I'm not giving you any money. That'd have to tax
you some other way, through some other means. I would reckon.
If they were going to do that, it would be
it would be easy to tax people who are selling

(01:21:01):
power to the network. I suppose you could just add
it to their bill.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
Yeah, but then they drop their price on their on
their on their rebate.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Well, the rebate is not that much now anyway, what
is about eight cents to killer?

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
I think it's not It's not very much. Yeah, well
it's not even eight cents. I think. I don't know.
I should look, I try not to give any back
to them because you get deadly squad for it. So
you try and use it all. You see, you've got
I've got timers and things all set up around the
place so everything comes on during the day when the
sun's out, and that's that sort of means that your
usage ends up when there's when the sun. But you

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don't have to bother with that, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
But well, I've still got to use a certain amount
of power to make my system work properly.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Yeah. Yeah, but you would put all your usage, if
you've got a battery, you'd put all your usage during
the day that you can during the day.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Oh, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Yeah. You wouldn't have a hot water service charging up your.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
Power cash mate.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Yeah, oh, okay, you're going to do it. You're going
to put it. Okay, should get rid of that. That's expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
I've looked at a solar cylinder.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Which one a solar cylinder? A solar cylinder? What's a
solar cylinder? What's that doing? Oh you mean a solo
a solo hot water system? You mean, yeah, mate, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you should get that. Get rid of the gas one. Gosh,
that's expensive. How can you afford to run that? That's
a shocker. Whatever you're saving an electricity, you're probably spending
in gas.

Speaker 5 (01:22:32):
Or watch it play at some of those big gas
companies and you can go to a barbecue shop and
launch them buy gas at half the price.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Yeah, it's a guess, is the most expensive thing unless
you've got a barbecue that you're going somewhere in a
car or something. You don't. You don't want to use
gas for anything anymore, do you?

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
No, I try and get away from it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Yeah, don't get yourself a solo hot water tank and
you'll you'll barely have to use any backup at all.
That anyway, that's that. Yeah, run, you're in a good position.
You're in a good position there. But if they if
they tax you, I reckon, they'd have to tax you
some other way. You'd have to. It would have to
be some sneaky tax called something else. Same.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
I just thought i'd give you a ring and just
say if you knew anything.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
About it, yeah, h no, maybe somebody else doesn't know
if they do. If they if you know something about
this sun tax one three hundred double ten twelve, and
we might be able to feel running. Talk to you soon. Run.
You have a good one. Bye bye. Now let's go
to Daryl in the troad. Maybe he's got the answer
to the question.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Get a Daryl, Hey gone, Ellen, Yeah, I was just
listening to the conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
I was, Yeah, what do you know about sun tax?
Have you heard about it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Well, no, I haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
I have heard it mentioned, but I haven't. I haven't
gone into it in any depth. But I was just
going to say, like years ago, I was on a
property and I had I was on tank order, yes,
and the council for feeling me out. I guess they
said we're going to put a meter on me tank.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
I've heard people say that it's just ridiculous, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
Yeah, well we had a we had a pretty in
depth discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
That's a diplomatic way putting it, okay, Yeah, yeah, he.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Said, oh, well, you know, like I was interfering with
the with the natural system with the water that landed
on my roof was going into a tank and were
also on septic tank. And I said, well, no, I said,
we're not stopping the water from going into the catchment

(01:24:39):
area at all, and he said, yes, you are. He said,
it goes into your tank and I said, yeah, but
when we do our washing and everything else that goes
into the septic tank, I said, then it goes out
and eventually so it's its way down through the soil
fills it naturally and it goes into the catchment. Yes,
in the vine.

Speaker 9 (01:24:59):
He was.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
It was just kind of bulling me into having this
thing installed. Or said, listen, mate, you just keep your
bloody water off me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Root.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
That's a good point. I would have said, look, you can,
you're welcome to the water instead of the septic tank.
I'll give you back that water. You can have it.
I'll deliver it to your counsel office and then you
can deal with it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
No, no, no, I didn't know I was going to
go to those extremes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
I just started to keep the water off me root.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Yeah, that's it, stop it from falling onto me.

Speaker 6 (01:25:28):
Root.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
And I guess we can do the same thing with
the sun takes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Yeah, it's yep.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
We've got to solar panel on there, and they got
to charge it the sun takes. Yeah, then well you
just keep your son out of my solar panel.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
That's the point. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's a weird they
try and make money. I guess they have to make
money somehow. I suppose if you're going to put a tank,
you can I don't know, grow creepers over it or something,
so no one knows it's there. But it's a bit
harder to cover up a solar panel, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Well mine was in the ground and I had a
guard and on top of it. Oh right, yeah, but
they knew that we weren't hooked up the water that
had to be going somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Okay. I wonder how many people are paying this now
that we're bullied into it. Who are listening now thinking
why have I been paying that for all those years?
I bet you there's people that are paying.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
It for nothing. Here's another question, and I guess you've
heard it, but where have they put a filthy, toxic
chemical water called fluoride?

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
And they charge us for it?

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Yeah. Fluoride is a weird one, isn't it. There's a
lot of people that say it does bad things to
your system.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
But oh yeah, I can send you through some information
or made if you'd like it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
There's actually no reason why you'd have to swallow it
to get the benefits from it. If you put it
in your mouth and switch it around and touch it
on your teeth and spit it out, it does just
as good as if you're just swallowing it. It's no difference. Yeah,
if you.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
It's like but ellen, we share in it too, And
they tell you that it washes off your body.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
No, you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
You actually consume it through your skin.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
What does it do to you? I've never worked out
what it actually does to you physically.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Well, they've connected probably about twenty odd different types of
cancer to it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Really.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Yeah, and it's supposed to fog up your brain. What
happened ye, yeah, dementia to it. So the the the
Nazis used that there dumb down the Jews during the
during the you know, the war.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Yeah, I've done a lot of research in the stuff,
and you know, they use it to get some fields,
some stuff out of the ground with it. And it's
been mixed with sulfuric acid and oh, god knows what.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
You for a lot of things. I didn't realize it,
but they coat lenses in it because it improves the color. Yeah,
improves the color that you get through the lens. You
get a better contrast through the lens. So there you go. No,
the government anyway, the government will tax whatever they can text,
I'm sure. And if they lose out on a tax,
the same thing's going to happen. You know about the
electricity business here in Tasmania. As soon as everyone's got

(01:28:22):
EV's they're going to have to find a way to
fund the roads, you know, I don't know how they're
going to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Oh, don't get me started on the EV. You know,
they talk about saving the environment and mining. It is
going to have to increase. Yeah, probably fifty percent or
two after two hundred percent. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
That's if we replaced, if we could replace every petrol
car right now with an EV that it would just
cause so much damage. I don't think it's actually possible.
I don't reckon there's enough. The way we're making batteries now,
I don't think we could make that many batteries anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
So no, no, and a lot of I guess it's
a way of getting people out of vehicles in the
public transport as well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yeah, maybe that's the option.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
Yeah, well, you know they'll just gently forced people and
saying they're trying to look after look after their environment.
And but yeah, it's a no brainer, you know, if
you want to. I mean today and I'm like that.
You know all about these micro breweries, yes, yeah, well

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there's people a lot of people are setting up now
micro diesel discilleries.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Well only someone that did that years ago and they
didn't buy it. They used fish and chip oil that
they used to scab around the place, and they didn't
buy diesel for their car for years. And then of
course everyone everyone caught on and everyone wanted the fish
and chip oil, and then it became harder to do.
But he didn't buy diesel for his car for younks.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
No, well you can get you can get it. Actually,
get oil out of an alga. You can get oil
out of anything. You can get out of you know, seeds,
yea sat player oil and another canal or oil which
is not real good for human consumption. So what they
do is that they they purified down and they add

(01:30:18):
an alcohol to it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Okay, and that's how it is. I should quiz him
on how he did it. Well, I should probably run away, Darryl.
And you need to go and buy yourself with gas
an electric. No, yeah, that's a stole the hot water
panel thing for your water. That's what you need to do.
Running out of time, better go all right?

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
Yeah, thanks London, So keeping up the good work, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Next time we speak, you tell me how much money
you're saving with your solar hot water panel thing?

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
All right? Yep, No, worry.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Yeah, he says, have a good Christmas, just saying that's Darryl.
It's twenty five past Oliver. This is taswany your talks listen.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Live at Tasmania Talks dot com dot a you tas
many a talk around a grounds, very nice and happy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
No, do you want to go first? Then I would
love to, okay, because.

Speaker 11 (01:31:07):
Then I can go do other things.

Speaker 14 (01:31:08):
Good to see you, Alan. There's lots happening around the
grounds for Lonnie over the weekend. First of all, the
lon Cesston Gem and Mineral Show is happening actually tomorrow
and Sunday. And that is happening at the elf And
Sports Center, Racecourse Crescent in Lonnie and nine to five
on Saturday, nine to three on Sunday, trade tables, rocks

(01:31:33):
and minerals, jewelry and gemstones, everything to get your rocks
off will be there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
I was waiting for it. Have they found a new
home because they were looking for a new home a
while ago.

Speaker 14 (01:31:42):
Would never clue, don't I know they didn't have a home.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
They were homeless there for a while at all.

Speaker 14 (01:31:49):
Well, they're going to be at least this weekend at
Elfin Sports Center until they're out, turfed out again, so.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
They get checked out again. Right, something else we have
to move, wouldn't it? Could you imagine how we're going
to do that.

Speaker 11 (01:32:00):
She's got heavy rocks.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
I had rocks in Hobart and somebody in the government
said we're going to move the Department of Rocks rocks
to Bernie, I think, And everyone said, right, you want
to move all this up there? And it just did
it happen? Well, there you go it stupid idea.

Speaker 14 (01:32:17):
Okay, Hey, Vinney's Christmas Market is happening tomorrow and that
is in Bowlin Street in Lonnie, and that is I'm
just seeing if I can find some tens. Sorry, yes,
if you wouldn't mind, there'll be lots there anyway. And
it is nine nine till five and the Vinie's van

(01:32:39):
will also be attending to provide information to the public
and sandwiches refreshments for a gold coin donation.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Sounds like a good deal.

Speaker 14 (01:32:48):
You can't have a market without having food and drinks
and things.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Can you have the stinky sausages on sticks? Yes?

Speaker 14 (01:32:54):
Something else is happening behind closed drawers. The pre Love
Clothing market is back eleven ntil tomorrow. That's an Albi's Hall,
free entry and it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
I'm told, look, what's wrong with what I'm wearing?

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Just seemed to be.

Speaker 14 (01:33:09):
Casting nothing you could sell that as pre love clothes.

Speaker 7 (01:33:13):
Are you right?

Speaker 14 (01:33:15):
And just a quick reminded to Sundays the Festival of
Roses at Walmers Estate in Longford between ten and three
and for most of that you can get all the
info if you want more at l A f M
dot com dot au.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Is that all there is? Nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
That's all there is?

Speaker 14 (01:33:30):
Alan back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
I enjoyed that immensely on me too, See you next week.
Bye bye, bye Joels. All right, let's let's I'm just
gonna move on to the next one. I'm going to
put that down and you take all you think you're right,
got your pen? Okay, everyone's done. Next time line we
have Cameron get our camera from the west coast. What's
happening your end of the state Hopes Jewels has gone

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You can say anything you want that.

Speaker 15 (01:33:55):
Yeah, all right, okay. First of all, the Lions Club
of Rosebury are holding their annual jumble sale this Saturday,
the nineteenth of November. It's actually being held for the
first time in two years. So it's back and the
Lions den in Hollywood Street, Rosebury. Can you believe there's
a Hollywood Street in Rosebury.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Yeah, it's up the top of the hill there somewhere.
It's gone.

Speaker 15 (01:34:17):
Hasn't got any Hollywood stuff on it or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Well, I should have a big name across it, shouldn't it.

Speaker 15 (01:34:22):
Like, Yeah, maybe I'll suggest that one day to them
down there. Anyway. The Jungle sale starts at nine a m.
Until two pm. There is no early visits that's been asked.
Please serve. We love our sausage sizzles down here. They're
serving a sausage sizzle and devonshy teas as well. No
FPOs available, so please bring cash to spend and if

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you have things that you'd like to donate, core Lee
on four nine seven eight four one eight two five
to pick up. All fundraising will be put back into
the community for the Christmas Parade in Rosebury on Sunday
the eleventh of December and the Faery House which is
coming up next year from the ninth to the sixteenth
of January. More on that later on, but please come

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along and support the Lions. Now this is not my
cup of tea, but silver Trail's History and Hauting's paranormal
investigations is on tonight at am z and the Pioneer
Cemetery Hinting Road in z In. On this one point
five hour investigation, you'll be provided with paranormal equipment and
suitable historical content on those who may be calling from

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beyond Silver trit Try. Yeah, that's what they're saying. I'm
just reading what they've told us. Silver Trail's paranormal investigation
will be limited to six patrons per event. All the
details are on the Silver Trail's History and Hauntings Facebook page.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Goodness, Okay, I say not my cup of tea, but
maybe I was going to say. Years ago, I remember
we drove up to a cemetery up near Gaula in
South Australia and it was pretty desolate. No one was
moving around and we sat there in the freezing cold
with a tape recorder on the roof of the carn.
We thought, let's let's see if there's anything on the tape. Afterwards,

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what do you reckon was on there?

Speaker 15 (01:36:05):
I have no idea, mate, what you kill me?

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Nothing? We sat there and froze for hours for nothing,
then listen to nothing. We just listened to tape for
about three hours. It's nothing there, Okay, all right, we're
young and silly.

Speaker 15 (01:36:21):
Yes, well we all do things when in our youth
that are rather silly.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Do you watch? You watch now? These people will go
out there with their proper equipment. Oh yeah, and they'll
probably there'll be amazing stuff. They'll probably find something will.

Speaker 15 (01:36:33):
Be Let's let's be fair that they know what they're doing.
So anybody who'd like to go along, but I'm sure
it's over to everybody wondering your jewels would like that
sort of thing. But anyway, we've also got karaoke at
Taylor Lakeside Lodge tomorrow night. Bring your best singing voice
down to the Taylor Lakeside Lodge for a fun field
evening dinner from six to eight pm and karaoke from

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eight thirty to eleven. You probably heard. I think I've
said this before. I'm a big karaoke fan and I
love to singing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
No, don't do it.

Speaker 15 (01:37:03):
I'm not going to sing on air for we today, mate,
that's all right, but you may see demming down there
because I love karaoke. Not sure what I'm doing yet
this weekend, but we'll certainly try and make it so.
That's what's happening on the West Coast this weekend. Alan,
it's a beautiful day down here. We're loving just the
one day because there are showers back tomorrow. Yes, when

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they can't win. One day of fine weather is happening
just for one day.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Live it up while let's here, Cameron. We've covered everything.
Talk to you soon. You have a good weekend, all right,
made all the best? All right? Catch you sayn Darren
is on the line from Devonport today.

Speaker 16 (01:37:37):
Darren, Hello, mate, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
I'm well, what's happening your end?

Speaker 16 (01:37:41):
Well, so I'm covering off seven vu as well. Morning.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Okay, you're covering everybody.

Speaker 16 (01:37:47):
Okay, I'll do a quick lap of the Northwest coast.
Let's start at wiven' Ho. Yes, Harness racing tonight. The
Trots are on twilight program starting at just after five o'clock.
Now get this, here's the story. Trainer Ben Yol, who
is from Launceston, Martin for our newsroom, tells me that

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he's going for an Australian record tonight of training three
hundred and forty winners in a season so far. He's
on three hundred and thirty four. He's got quite a
few horses running tonight, so chances are he'll get that
and break the Australian record at Wyve and ho tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
What does he do, just go and have words to
all the competition, No suggesting anything, no no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 16 (01:38:36):
He probably has half the field in every event, you
know what I mean, So chances are he'll get a
few winners tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
We're ruining, We're ruining his claim to fame.

Speaker 16 (01:38:47):
Here just up the road at Somerset, the circus continues
wrapping up this weekend. Excellent show tonight and then there's
three shows Saturday and the La shows at eleven o'clock
on Sunday. You can get your tickets at the box
office there at the Big Top at Somerset. I can

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recommend that. And further up in the beautiful circular Head area,
the Stanley and Tarkine Forage Festival is running. It's been
going all week and they've got the Forest Feast happening
Saturday on the banks of Tatlow Beach in Stanley and
they'll have a big feast obviously, they'll got some live
music and great entertainment and a license bar and that

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runs tomorrow from four to eleven thirty at Stanley. So
check out the website. If you search Stanley and Tarkine
Forage Festival on the Facebook page, you'll get all the
info there for that one. Let's talk four wheel driving.
The Northwest off Road Open Day is on its spray
and now this is on tomorrow, so if you're into

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four wheel driving, they've got some great prizes up for
grabs and that's on at Northwest off Road which is
at Kelsey Tier Road, Sprayden. So that's on tomorrow from
nine till two. And I've just been sending an email
this morning from the team at Vennie's. I heard Jewels
talk about Venice Market than before.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
I've got a big shindig going. I'm raising lots of money,
I think, so it's probably part of that. I suspect, no,
something different, Okay, however.

Speaker 16 (01:40:22):
It is a fundraiser. Of course, all Vennice do is
fundraising pretty much for their great charity. And so anyway,
this was sent through from Lauren Truan from Venice. Saturday,
all Vennie stores between Latrobe and Bernie have their Christmas

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Market Day to raise money to help support their community
during Christmas period. So all stores right through from Latrobe
to Bernie fifty percent off tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
There you go, right, you're going to go and get
some bargains.

Speaker 16 (01:40:56):
Well, I'm a big fan of op shopping. I do
like it, so maybe I will, yeah, go.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
And find some good stuff. Easy?

Speaker 8 (01:41:03):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Well, it sounds like you're going to be busy run
across the weekend. Of course it's going to rain, but
we won't talk about that.

Speaker 16 (01:41:08):
We'll put it out about late Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Apparently late Saturday, that's what they're telling you.

Speaker 16 (01:41:12):
The cricketer should be okay tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Cross fingers cool, Darren, you have a top weekend. Okay mate?
Catch you see that was around the grounds.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
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