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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listen live at Tasmania Talks dot com dot au. Get
out and get social with golf balls and croquet at
Devonport Country Class has Mania Talks. It's time for Bike Soapbox.
It's your station, it's your same call now on one
three hundred double O ten twelve.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
And on the soapbox we have Ron today.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Ron.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
How are you today?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Good?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Thanks? All on yourself mate?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Pretty good, pretty good. You wanted to talk about hydrogen
because we were talking about that just a little while
ago in regards to making hydrogen at the airport. Sounds
like a pretty good plan, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, that's all. That's all well and good. Now the
solar the solar business. Yes, I read an article on
a news site the other day where I was going
to introduce for some text.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, I have heard something about this. I guess the
government just do that, don't they. If there's something that's free,
they have to tax that. I don't know how they're
going to tax the sun tax. Do they work out
how much how much power are you generating? Or something?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Well, I don't know. I just read the article and
has Network was one of the companies trying to get
it in. Yeah, and I just wondering if you'd heard
anything about it.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I've heard it mentioned, But how it's supposed to work.
I have no idea the government find a way of
taxing stuff that normally is free. I suppose, but I
would gosh, how would you do it? I mean, they
already give you miserable amounts for any power that you
generate and sell back to them. And maybe there maybe

(01:39):
their incomes dropping so much because people have got solar
on their roof that they need to claw back more money.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, I'm I'm live out MISTXU, so so I rely
on my solar and I don't see why I should
have to pay a sun tax.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
For my power if you're not. Are you on the grid, No,
you're not on the grid. I don't know if they can,
if there's any way of actually doing it. If you're
off the grid, do you have to pay auror anything
or as networks or whatever it is? Yeah, okay, and
that doesn't matter whether you've got a WY going past
your property or whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Oh well it was.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Done across IDT. I was and put the hydro into
my property years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah. Yeah, Because you've got to pay for your own
poles and things, don't.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
You poles and line and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, just too much, I look said, I would reckon.
I don't know. I'm just talking off the top of
my head that I would suspect that if there's such
a thing as a SUN tax, if it comes into being,
it will probably be only for people that are attached
to the network. I reckon, because they're not going to
be able to send bills to people if they're not
even connected to the network. No one will pay that.

(02:48):
You're just going to say, look, sorry, you're charging me
for no service. I don't even have your product. I'm
not giving you any money. I'd have to tax you
some other way, through some other means. I would reckon.
If they were going to do that, it would be
it would be easy to tax people who are selling
power to the network. I suppose you could just add
it to their bill.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, but then they drop.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Their price on the on the on their rebate.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, the rebates not that much now anyway, what is
about eight cents to killer? What? I think it's not
It's not very much. Yeah, well it's not even eight cents.
I think. I don't know. I should look. I try
not to give any back to them because you get
deadly squat for it, so you try and use it all.
You see, you've got I've got timers and things all
set up around the place, so everything comes on during
the day when the sun's out, and that's that sort

(03:35):
of means that your usage ends up when there's when
the sun. But you don't have to bother with that,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
But well, I've still got to use a certain amount
of power to make my system work properly.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah. Yeah, but you would put all your usage, if
you've got a battery, you'd put all your usage during
the day that you can during the day.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Oh definitely, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah. You wouldn't have a hot water service charging.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Up your powers mate.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, oh, okay, you're going to do it. You're going
to put it in, Okay, should get rid of that.
That's expensive.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, I know. I've looked at a solar cylinder.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Which one solar cylinder? A solar cylinder? What's a solar cylinder?
What's that doing? Oh you mean a a solo hot
water system?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
You mean, yeah, mate, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
You should get that. Get rid of the gas one. Gosh,
that's expensive. How can you afford to run that. That's
a shocker. Whatever you're saving an electricity, you're probably spending
in gas.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I'll watch it pay at some of those big gas companies,
and you can go to a barbecue shop and launch
them buy gas at half the price.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, it's a guess. It's the most expensive thing unless
you've got a barbecue that you're going somewhere in a
car or something. You don't. You don't want to use
gas for anything anymore, do you.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
No, I try and get away from it.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, don't get yourself a solo hot water tank and
you'll you'll barely have to use any backup at all.
But anyway, that's yeah, No, Ron, you're in a good position.
You're in a good position there. So but if they
if they tax you, I reckon, they'd have to tax
you some other way. You'd have to It would have
to be some sneaky tax called something else. Same.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, I just thought i'd give you a ring and
just say if you knew anything about it.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeaheah, No, maybe somebody else doesn't know. If they do.
If they if you know something about this sun tax
one three hundred double ten twelve, and we might be
able to fill running talk to you soon. Run you
have a good one. Bye bye. Now let's go to
Daryl in the Troy. Maybe he's got the answer to
the question, did I Daryl?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Hey gone, Ellen?

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I was just listening to the conversation.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was, yeah, what do you know about sun tax?
Have you heard of it?

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Well, no, I haven't. I have heard it mentioned, but
I haven't. I haven't gone into it in any depth.
But I was just going to say, like years ago,
I was on a property and I had I was
on tank order, yes, and the council were feeling me out.
I guess they said they were going to put a

(06:04):
meter on me tank.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
I've heard people say that it's just ridiculous, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, well we had a we had a pretty in
depth discussion.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
That's a diplomatic way put it.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, he said, oh, well, you know, like I.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Was interfering with the with the natural system, with the
water that landed on my roof was going into a tank,
and were also on septic tank. And I said, well, no,
I said, we're not stopping the water from going into
the catchment area at all, and he said, yes, you are.

(06:44):
He said it goes into your tank. And I said, yeah,
but when we do our washing and everything else, that
goes into the septic tank, I said, then it goes
out and eventually so it's its way down through the
soil fills it naturally and it goes into the catchment. Yes, son,
if he was just gonna he was just going to
bully me into having this thing installed, or said, listen, mate,

(07:10):
you just keep your bloody water off me root.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's a good point. I would have said, look, you can,
you're welcome to the water instead of the septic tank.
I'll give you back that water. You can have it.
I'll deliver it to your counsel office and then you
can deal with it.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
No, no, no, I didn't know I was going to
go to those extremes. I just started to keep the
water off me root. Yeah, that's it, stop it from
falling onto me root. And I guess that we can
do the same thing with the sun takes.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, it's yep.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
We've got a solar panel on there and I got
to charge it the sun takes. Yeah, then well you
just keep your son out of my solar panel.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
That's the point. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's it's a weird
they try and make money. I guess they have to
make money somehow. I suppose if you're going to put
a tank, you can I don't know, grow creepers over
it or something, so no one knows it's there. But
it's a bit harder to cover up a solar panel,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Well mine was in the ground and I had a
garden on top of it.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Oh right, yeah, but they knew that we weren't hooked
up the water that had to be going somewhere.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Jee Okay. I wonder how many people are paying this
now that we're bullied into it. Who are listening now
thinking why have I been paying that for all those years?
I bet you there's people that are paying it for nothing.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Here's another question, and I guess you've heard it, but
where have they put a filthy, toxic chemical water called fluoride? Yes,
they charge us for it.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, Fluoride's a weird one, isn't it. There's a lot
of people that say it does bad things to your system.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
But oh yeah, I can send you through some information
or that if you'd like them.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
There's actually no reason why you'd have to swallow it
to get the benefits from it. If you put it
in your mouth and swish it around and touch it
on your teeth and spit it out, it does just
as good it is if you're just swallowing, it makes
no difference. Yeah, if you it's.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Like but Alan, we share in it too. And they
tell you that it washes off your body. No, you don't.
You actually consume it through your skin.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
What does it do to you? I've never worked out
what it actually does to you physically.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Well, they've connected probably about twenty odd different types of
cancer to it. Really, yeah, and it's supposed to fog
up your brain. What happened yeah, yeah, dementia to it.
So the the the Nazis used that they're dumb down

(09:41):
the Jews during the during the you know, during the war.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, I've done a lot of research and the stuff,
and you know, they use it to get some fields,
some stuff out of the ground with it, and it's
been mixed with sulfuric ass of them. God knows what.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
It's used for a lot of things. I didn't realize it,
but they coat lenses in it because it improves the color, Yeah,
improves the color that you get through the lens. You
get a better contrast through the lens. So there you go. No,
the government anyway, the government will tax whatever they can text,
I'm sure, and if they lose out on a tax,
the same thing's going to happen, you know about the
electricity business here in Tasmania. As soon as everyone's got EV's,

(10:25):
they're going to have to find a way to fund
the roads. You know, I don't know how they're going
to do that.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Oh, don't get me started on the EV that's you know,
they talk about saving the environment, and mining is going
to have to increase probably fifty percent or two after
two hundred percent. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's if we replace if we could replace every petrol
car right now with an EV that it would just
cause so much damage. I don't think it's actually possible.
I don't reckon there's enough the way we make making
batteries now, I don't think we could make that many
batteries anyway.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
So no, no, and a lot of I guess it's
a way of getting people out of vehicles in the
public transport as well.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, maybe that's the option.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, Well, you know, they'll just gently forced people and
saying they're trying to look after look after their environment.
And yeah, but yeah, it's a no brainer, you know,
if you want to. I mean today and I'm like that,
you know all about these micro breweries. Yes, yeah, well

(11:34):
there's people a lot of people are setting up now
micro diesel distilleries.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well only someone that did that years ago, and they
didn't buy They used fish and chip oil that they
used to scab around the place, and they didn't buy
diesel for their car for years. And then of course
everyone everyone caught on and everyone wanted the fish and
chip oil and then it became harder to do. But
he didn't buy diesel for his car for youngks.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
No, well, you can get you can actually get oil
out of an alga. You can get oil out of anything.
You can get it out of you know, seed saft,
flaur oil and another canal of oil which is not
real good for human consumption. So what they do is
that they they purified down and they add an alcohol

(12:21):
to it.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Okay, and that's how it is. I should quiz him
on how he did it. Well, I should probably run away, Darryl.
And you need to go and buy yourself a gas
an electric No, yeah, that's a stole a hot water
panel thing for your water. That's what you need to do.
Running out of time, better go all right.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, thanks London, so keeping up the good work. All right.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Next time we speak, you tell me how much money
you're saving with your solar hot water panel thing.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
All right, yep, no worry.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, he says, have a good Christmas. That just saying.
That's Darryl. It's twenty five pass Oliver. This is tezwenty.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
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