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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listen live at Tasmania Talks dot com dot au. I
was about to say on the line that we've actually
got a proper human being in the studio, Czibauer, get a.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Cz Hi, how are you going?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm very well indeed, now you're here on a couple
of fronts. I guess. Firstly, we're talking in regards to
the northern First of all, we're talking about let's do
the first one first show. Okay, get you decided the order.
The Countrywide Hydrogen and the Loncessen Airport. There's a connection there,
it's not immediately obvious. Tell us what the connection is.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, So this is a fantastic opportunity that an MoU
was signed yesterday to actually conduct a feasibility study into
the airport producing putting in.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Solar panels on their vacant land.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
To actually produce electricity to go into a hydrogen plant,
so that Countrywide can actually put a refueling station in
the industrial estate out there. Mostly for heavy vehicles to
start with, but obviously it has as we move forward
and the technology gets, you know, catches up with us,
it will be for cars.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And that's an interesting thing. I mean a lot of
people say that it's not a very efficient way of
using the power from the sun, but if it's excess power,
it's a terrific way to use it, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, So it's actually something that can feed straight into produce.
You know, obviously when you're looking at a hydrogen To
produce hydrogen, you need two things, well three. Actually you
need water, you need electricity, and you need an electrolyzer
that it goes through and then you know, out pops
hydrogen and the byproduct is oxygen.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So that the electrolyzer is at bel Bay.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
No, So the they're looking at putting the electoralizer in
the heavy industrial estate, so that'll be part of the
feasibility study.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So this goes out at Western Junction.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So I guess from a bbam's ed point of view,
our responsibility is not just Belbay when we talk about hydrogen,
it's actually around the whole state.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And it's kind of really cool.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The way that this came about was when I was
actually campaigning. I had a fair bit to do with
Shane at the airport and I got to know what
his vision was for the airport and around especially around
green ambitions. I guess for for the for a regional airport,
because you know, they are the best regional airport in
Australia for a reason, and he wants to keep that
(02:14):
title obviously. So he had these grand plans, and and
because I have my hydrogen connections, I was able to
hook the two up to get them together.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I was looking at this originally and thinking where does
the connection coming in? So that's how it is.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's the connecttion.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So the idea in a nutshell is you get the
you get the electricity from vacant land at the airport,
which must have remained vacant obviously, because so and that
then that then I guess, or half of that ends
up being turned into hydrogen.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
From electric it'll feed into.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
The hydrogen to bel Bay.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, no, no, So the hydrogen will actually stay in
the industrial estate as a refueling station so that your
heavy transport so trucks will be able to refuel there
and we'll be able to convert, you know, start getting
some hydrogen trucks on the road in Tazzi, which is
exactly what we want.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
What an amazing thing, yeah, what an amazing thing. Apparently
you can run a petrol car on hydrogen somehow. I'm
not sure what has to happen to the hydrogen, but
if it can be done reasonably straightforwardly without too many
losses in the system, I guess is what it comes
down to.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
There are hydrogen vehicles around the market.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
For that would be absolutely huge because it would mean
I mean, it would probably still make your car more
expensive to run than an electric car. But if you
don't do a lot of miles in your car, you
may still be better off keeping your old car and
running it on some sort of weird hydrogen mixed I'm
giving you ideas, aren't I. And if you go away
and do something with these ideas, a lot of people
(03:44):
will benefit.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, currently there are some hydrogen vehicles on the market.
And to give you an idea, this so like the
refueling station where the hydrogen will be produced by the
solar panels as the electricity source can actually produce around
tons per day of hydrogen. Now, to give you an
example what that means for an everyday vehicle, and every
day vehicle takes about.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Five and a half to six kilograms of hydrogen at all. Yeah,
that's all.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
And at the moment it's around fifteen dollars a kilogram,
so it's actually on par and a little bit, if
not a little bit cheaper than what we're paying right
now for petrol. And so that's what and you know,
as we know, when you now to the range, this
is what I love about hydrogen versus EVS at the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'm sure EV's will as a technology gets better. The
range issue is but it's the range. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So for a full tank, you know, for that six kilograms,
that will actually get you between eight hundred to one
thousand kilometers in a car. So it's a fair bit
longer than a charge will for an Even.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
The downfall, I guess is the fact that I think
if you use hydrogen it takes double the amount of
electricity to get you x amount of hydrogen. And then
if you just use the electricity, but then you've got
the range issues.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, And that's why heavy transport in particular is very
interested in hydrogen because, as we know, the only thing
that it emits is a bit of water out your
exhaust pipes.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So even if it costs double to run than an
electric truck, it's still a whole lot cheaper than petrol.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It's around the talk that as well, so an electric
vehicle will find it very difficult to tow you know,
you know, so a heavy load, where hydrogen doesn't have
that issue. So that's why hydrogen's being more looked at
in the heavy transport area because of that ability to
have heavy loads that it doesn't really affect it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Goodness me, okay, I've learned a whole lot here. This
is amazing stuff. I just want to keep my old
car and I don't want to buy a new car,
too miserable had it for years. We're talking resumes as well.
This is something else, so we're mixing up everything. I've
got something here. This is a letter. I presume it's real,
and I thought maybe what I would do is get
you to read it out, not read it out nice
(05:56):
and slowly so so everyone can absorb it. It doesn't
have anyone's name, so over to you.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So it says application for employment.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I refer to the recent death of the technical that's
unfortunate technical manager at your company, and hereby apply for
the replacement of the deceased manager. Each time I apply
for a job, I get a reply that there was
no vacancy. But in this case, I've caught you red handed.
And you have no excuse because I even attended the
funeral to be sure that he was truly.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Dead and buried before applying.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Attached to my letter is a copy of my CV
and his death certificate.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well that's a bit harsh, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
What do you think's wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Probably not the right approach.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Have you ever seen anything like that in your life?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I haven't, No, No, not quite.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You'd see you'd see a lot of people make mistakes
with resume.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
But the thing we find with a lot of school
age people as well, though, is that they actually don't
know what their skill base is and what those transferable
skills are. So, you know, you'll talk to a fifteen
year old and you'll say what skills have you got?
And I'll go, oh, nothing, you know, I don't know anything. No,
I don't do anything. And then you start to dig
a little bit deeper and you go, well, I noticed.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That do you play football?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, no, no, I play football. That's a team sport.
Yeah oh yeah, yeah yeah. Oh, so you've got good
team skills, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And when you actually start pointing some of these things
out to young people, they go, oh, hang on, I've
got more skills than I thought of it. And that's
then the basis that you can start with their resume.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I knew someone years ago that they didn't think they
knew anything, but I knew everything about computers, and people
would take their computers to them and say, what the
hell's going on with this? And he'd pull up bits
and fix it and it was dumb, and yeah, okay,
you could make money out of this year.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
We had one guy that you know, kept telling us, no,
he didn't do anything, didn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I said, what do you do on weekends? You know?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Oh, well, Mum and Dad got this whole car in
the backyard, and I tinker with that, you know, I
take it apart, put it together, and like, have you
ever thought you might want to look being a car mechanic. No,
I never really thought of that, you know. So it's
really opening up opportunities.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It's paid to do.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Something you like, Yeah, exactly, that's all you have.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
To do sometimes work out what should know. I guess too.
I was going to suggest here, because things are changing.
We don't know where things are going with the economy
at the moment. In theory, in all, all the theory
seems to tell us that unemployment should be going up,
but it's actually going down. Is it actually reversing? Do
employers actually have to try harder now to get workers?
(08:28):
Where before it was the workers who had to try
so hard to impress the employers, Now it seems to
be going the other way around.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
There are so many jobs out there at the moment,
which is fantastic. And that's what you know, neb pub
actually does we work with the employers and young It's.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Funny you say that, because I've got this, this is
something I've prepared.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I have to read something here.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You've actually I reckon, you've actually seen this before. Okay,
I reckon, you've seen this before, but you have a
read of that one. This is from an employer.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So do you want me to read this? So Ben
wanted for hazardous journey.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Small wages, bitter cold, long months of complete darkness, constant danger,
safe return, doubtful honor and recognition in case of success,
Heernest Shackleton.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yes, it's apparently a true ad that he put in. Really,
and people applied for the job. What would I mean,
what's wrong with that? I'm sure there's a bunch of
things wrong with that. At LISUS, it's not false advertising.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
No it's not.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But I mean we do have very truthful and open
and honest discussions with our job seekers of what they're
looking for, and we also have it with our employers
to what they're looking for in a job seeker. Now,
if we went back to the employment rate that you
were talking about, even though unemployment has gone down and
you know, it's just gone down to three point four
percent nationally.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Nuts, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
However, when we start looking at youth unemployment that is
still quite high. So even in Lonceston we have nearly
an eight percent youth unemployment rate. In Georgetown it's nearly
seventeen percent youth unemployed rate. So this is where we
need to and you know, to be concentrating some of
our time. And we have just received some funding from
(10:09):
Jobs Tasmania to actually put a youth specific position in
working in conjunction with why not to actually look at
why are young people not being able to engage and
being able to help them do that? We did have
an interesting case, I must admit, with a young person
saying that, look, I've got to have constant social media
(10:30):
breaks for any Yes, so they actually this person believed
that was an entitlement like that that was something they're
entitled to in a job.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Maybe it will be in the future, Okay, they might
be just looking into the future and seeing something we're not.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And so it's having you know, look, some jobs you
can do that, you know, with you can check your
social media every now and then or whatever in a
but some jobs you can't.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So it's really been quite.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Realistic about what those positions are that you can where
you aren't. And again, we want to set people up
for success, not for failure. So if we know all
of this information, we can make sure we're doing the
matching properly.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Looking at it in reverse, if an employer was to say, look,
you can have you know, fifteen minutes you know, a
couple of times a day, they may get a good
applicant that that is exactly right.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
You don't want to rule anything out as well, and
so we do need to have those very frank conversations
with some of our businesses about things aren't like they
were twenty or thirty years ago. Sometimes there's got to
be a bit of give and take.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, no, that's fair Richard's just said here a surgeon
can't go onto sacial during surgery. No, probably not a thing.
Just hold this clamped, nurse. I'm going to just gone, yeah,
look at this.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, there's certainly some areas in Bell Bay with highly
hazardous materials that are down there that you probably wouldn't
want someone checking their phone.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's it. If I've worked in a brick factory once,
and if you if you walked off bricks and go
everywhere else, that was the worst job I've ever done. Anyway,
that's another story, another story for another day. How do
people get involved? If you're an employer or an employee
or a FIT ten employee.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Especially this time of year, we know there'll be a
fair few young people leaving school and perhaps looking for
that first part time job. If they need help with
their resume, please come and see this. So we're at
one twenty three York Street. So just drop in between
ten and four anytime Monday to Friday, and we'll be
able to help you out with your resume and get
something on paper for you so that you can go
(12:28):
out and start talking to some people and employers. Otherwise,
if you actually can't because you might live in Campbelltown
or something like that. Just give us a give us
a call or get on Facebook or a website and
we'll actually come to you. And yeah, so we have
a mobile service. We're place based, so if you're in
even in Flinder's Island, so we cover Flinder's Island with
(12:50):
the West tamer Lonceston, Georgetown, Meandervalley and Northern Midlands.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So if you're in any.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Of those areas, please get in touch and we can
help you out.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Job's over Christmas? To people get jobs over Christmas? Or
does it all just stop?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, there's well, certainly in the hospitality you know, and
so it depends and retail in particular. There are a
lot of jobs happening, you know, be needed between now
and the Christmas period and after the Christmas period, so
there's a lot of things around.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
How many hospitality jobs you reckon you've got all?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
There's a lot, Look, there's a lot of to be
quite honest, nearly every industry you can think of, we've
got jobs available right now, so please come and have
a chat to us.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Goodness me and how do they contact you?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
So we are at one twenty three York Street if
you want to walk in. Otherwise, please get onto the
website or our Facebook page and contact us through there.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Excellent stuff. Sasibou. Talk to you again next year. Have
a good Christmas, you two. This is Tasmania Talk. This
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