October 7, 2025 • 14 mins
What exactly happened when Israel intercepted the Global Sumud Flotilla?
If you ask the families of the Australians on board, they've reported alleged abuse and torture.
Plus, we break down the luteal phase; why this final stretch of the menstrual cycle has become short-hand for feeling low, and what's actually happening in your body.
And in headlines today, Australian activists in Israeli detention for attempting to deliver aid to Gaza have been deported to Jordan; Zelda Williams is begging people to stop sending her AI videos of her late dad Robin Williams calling it "gross"; It’s International Plasma Week, the Mum of Australia’s only child with severe Factor V deficiency, urging Aussies to consider donating; Tennis ace Novak Djokovic has thrown up and passed out while playing in brutally hot conditions in China, but still went on to win his match
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily
news podcast, The Quikie. There's been reports Australians and other
activists on board the Global Samud Flotilla to Gaza have
been allegedly abused and mistreated after their vessels were intercepted
by Israeli authorities. We'll speak to one Australian activist, family
and friends about his experience, plus what is my loutial
(00:44):
face and why is everyone talking about it? Before we
get there, here's Clare Murphy with the latest from the
Quickie newsroom for Wednesday, October eighth.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Thanks Taylor. Australian activists in Israeli detention for attempting to
deliver a to Gaza have been deported to Jordan. The
Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade have confirmed that seven
Australians held by Israeli authorities since attempting to bring boatloads
of aid into Gaza on the Samud flotilla alongside activist
Greta Dunburg, have been freed. A spokesman for Foreign Minister
(01:13):
Penny Wong said the government was pleased they've been released
from detention. Their release follows Australian representations to Israeli authorities
over their welfare and treatment. Zelda Williams is begging people
to stop sending her AI videos of her late dad,
Robin Williams, the Hollywood legend, took his own life in
twenty fourteen at his California home his thirty six year
old daughter, saying people choosing to make artificial intelligence videos
(01:36):
of him is gross. She wrote in a post on
social media to watch the legacies of real people be
condensed down to this vaguely looks and sounds like them,
So that's enough, just so other people can churn out
horrible TikTok slop. Puppeteering them is maddening. She went on
to say, you're not making art. You're making disgusting, overprocessed
(01:56):
hot dogs out of the lives of human beings, out
of the history of art and music, and then shoving
them down someone else's throat, hoping they'll give you a
little thumbs up and like it. It's International Plasma Week.
The mum of Australia's only child with severe Factor V deficiency,
urging Aussies to consider donating. Australian Red Cross Lifeblood says
demand for plasma is soaring, with forty five thousand plasma
(02:19):
medications and transfusions needed every year. That means seventeen five
hundred bags of donations are required every week. While Australia
is one of the top three uses of plasma medications
per capita in the world, fewer than one percent of
Australians donate. Brisbane mum Alexandra Dray says her son Joey
was diagnosed with the rare severe Factor V condition at
(02:40):
just four months old and it's been a scary ride
for their family.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So he pretty much doesn't make plasma naturally and that
is the protein that clots your blood. So if he falls,
he's at risk of brain bleeds, muscle bleeds, joint bleeds
and any internal bleeding. So any kind of knock, particularly
to his head, we have to rushing straight to emergency
just as a precaution. He has been receiving plasma since
(03:06):
the beginning of January this year and with that plans
he can lead a completely normal life. He's a normal
little little toddler. It's a lifesaver, it's a life changer,
it's a life giver. It's everything, in absolutely everything.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
If you're keen to donate, you can reach out to
Lifeblood on thirteen, fourteen ninety five or head to their website.
Tennis Snovak Djokovic has thrown up and passed out while
playing in brutally hot conditions in China, but still went
on to win his match. After losing a long second set,
the thirty eight year old appeared to collapse, laying sprawled
out behind the baseline before being helped back to his
(03:43):
chair by a trainer. He'd already been treated for an
achilles issue, with many thinking he wouldn't be able to
recover from this point. After train has checked his vitals,
he went on to not only finish the two hour
and forty one minute match against spaniard U may Mina,
he won it, skipping the postmatch interview but posting online
that it was a tough day at the office, but
luckily he has the greatest support team in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Thanks Claire. Next, what happened when Israel intercepted this and
Mudflati well as peace talks continue to end the war
in Gaza. Humanitarian boats carrying international activists, including Australians, have
been stopped for trying to break Israel's naval blockade of Strip.
(04:27):
Known as the Global Samud Flotilla, a group of over
forty civilian boats carrying around five hundred activists from around
the world set sail in late August. The flotilla included
well known activists Greta Tunberg and several Australians. Their aim
to deliver aid along the forty kilometre coastline of Gaza,
drawing attention to the situation on the ground, But before
(04:51):
they could reach Gaza, about seventy nautical miles off the coast,
the group were intercepted by Israeli forces in international waters
and detained at the Porterbash DoD. Inside detention, Australian activists
have reported harsh conditions, claiming physical abuse, beatings and intense interrogations.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Has reported that Syria has been physically and verbally abused
to what amounts to torture. He has been the subject
to threats of sexual abuse. He has had his head
slammed against the concrete. He has had his shoulder dislocated.
He has been the subject of sleep deprivation techniques and
has not slept since he has been arrested. This is
all reported to Justin to McEwen his mum through DEFAT.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's Jess. She's a close friend of Syria McEwen, one
of the Australians detained by Israel. Jess says the Department
of Foreign Affairs and Trade have been in contact Suria's
family visiting him in prison. Jess also said Syria and
other activists on board had clear intentions for the flotilla.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
They wanted to reiterate as well before they left that
they don't believe themselves to be heroes. They don't believe
themselves to be brave. They're incredibly scared, and yet they
fear of watching this genocide unfold that proved to be
more powerful than the fear for their own safety.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Surria's mum, Jacinta, says the last time she spoke to
her son was not long before the boat he was on,
the Mia Mia, was intercepted. Suria is now unable to
contact his family and is reportedly on a hunger strike,
but he has been able to pass this message onto
his mum via DEFAT officials.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
He did manage to say to the officialist send the
message to my mum that don't think of it as
a hunger strike, think of it as a fast because
I'm an health worker. Even from inside, he's trying to
reassure me and that's really sweet. But yeah, we're incredibly worried.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's believed seven Australians are on board the flotilla boats.
Jacinta says their families are deeply worried about how they've
been treated since Israel intercepted their vessels.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
The families feel a bit desperate. They're not being treated well.
They've been maltreated.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Some activists allege they had their hands tied. Others described
body checks, cold cells, lack of drinkable water, and even
having to dance in front of guards. Greta Tundberg had
this to say after arriving in Greece following her deportation
from Israel. What we came to do with the global
still levels to step up when our governments failed to.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Do with their legal obligation.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Israeli authorities insist all legal rights were fully upheld and
detainings have been given food, water, restrooms, and humane treatment.
This isn't the first time the freedom flotilla has attempted
to deliver aid to Gaza back in September, participants said
two of their boats were targeted by incendiary devices dropped
from drones off the coast of Tunisia. The Australian government
(07:49):
says it's providing consular support to those detained and has
called for humane treatment of all Australians on board. Deputy
Prime Minister Richard Miles told the ABC the Australian Government
has continued to provide consular assistance to the Australians detained.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
We had made it clear that Austrands should not be
in a position of trying to breach the blockade which exists.
That was very much a matter in terms of their
own safety. But in the circumstances that are now there,
we will continue to provide consona assistance to these people.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We will of course keep you updated on this story.
In the QUICKI News headlines A question for the group,
do you ever just feel like burning it all to
the ground. Look, it could mean a number of things,
maybe even what stage of your menstrual cycle you're in.
Say hello to the luteal phase from TikTok to your
(08:44):
group chats. The luteal phase has become shorthand for feeling low,
out of sorts, or as some may say, like burn
it all down. If I were a president, I would
literally make it a lie that women are not allowed
to look at themselves during their loutial fees.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
I am a completely different person a few days before
my period, But.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Why does it get such a bad rap. The menstrual
cycle has four phases, menstrual, follicular, ovulation, and louteal. The
lutial phase is the final stretch, about two weeks after ovulation,
when progesterone peaks the uterine lighting preps for pregnancy, and
then if there's no fertilization, it all drops, triggering menstruation.
(09:23):
Hormones fluctuate wildly here with rising progesterone and changing estrogen ratios. Basically,
it can take your body on a wild ride, saw breasts, floating, acne,
all the good stuff. But wait, there's more. Mentally, it
can also hit harder think mood swings, irritability, tearfulness, anxiety,
(09:43):
even social withdrawal. For some, this is the heart of
PMS or pre menstrual syndrome country. So while the chatter
lately as people get more in tune with their cycles.
There's a wider acceptance of self care strategies, whether that's
taking quiet days, practicing radical compassion for yourself, or even
pre planning social events to match energetic phases in your cycle.
(10:06):
To tell us more, we're joined by gynecologist doctor Pavna Kara.
Doctor have what are the four phases of a menstrual cycle.
So we start with the menstrual phase, which is when
you get your period, and typically that's about three to
five days and that starts your menstrual cycle. The second
phase is the follicular phase, so this is when your
(10:27):
body is getting ready to release an egg, so your
estrogen levels start to rise and during this phase you
might start to notice things like more energy. And then
the ovulatory phase is when your body releases an egg,
so that's when your estrogen levels peak. And the last
stage is the luteal phase, so this is where your
progesterone levels slowly start to rise in preparation for a
(10:49):
pregnancy up until your next menstrual phase again, which is
where if an egg isn't fertilized, you'll go through another
menstrual phase and have a period. So beyond trying to
conceive or maybe trying not to conceive. Why is it
important to know what phase you're in?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
So previously a lot of people would put down things
like mood changes or irritability. Into the lead up to
a period is something like PMS. But nowadays where there's
more of a push to recognizing what phase of the
cycle you're in and sort of sinking your lifestyle around
your cycle, so making it work for you rather than
letting it lead your life.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Okay, so the luteal phase is blowing up online at
the moment people say it's the time before their period
arrives when they feel like they just need to burn
everything down, maybe scream into the void. We've also heard
of things like it being described as the cave phase.
What's actually happening in your body during the luteal phase?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
So the lyteal phase happens after that egg has been
released and is usually where progesterone levels are starting to
rise in preparation for a pregnancy. About a week before
your period, those progesterone levels will suddenly start to fall,
and that's when you can start to experience things like
mood changes, fatigue, irritability, bloating. You can start to feel
(12:06):
really tired, and so for some people that's a really
disabling thing and it can mean that they can't really
function to their full potential. But for other people, it's
more of a time to kind of zone out. They
get intense focused, they can calm down a little bit.
They might focus on things like movement and gentle exercise
rather than sort of the gung ho activities.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You mentioned before about there's now more of a movement
and mindfulness in syncing up our lifestyles and activities that
were maybe doing. Depending on what part of our cycle
we're in, what are some of those other mental or
physical impacts during the other phases of a menstrual cycle.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
So often during the menstrual phase, because you are bleeding,
you might feel a little bit more tired, want to
keep to yourself, you know. That's another sort of cave
period of the phases. During the follicular phase, as your
estudent levels are rising, you might have a lot more energy.
You know, when we talk about syncing with things like workouts,
that might be when you're doing more of your strength
training and your heavier workouts, or if you're doing your
(13:04):
work that might be when you have a lot of
really great ideas and fantastic projects and things like that.
The ovulatory phase, that's when your eastern levels are really rising,
so you might get a big surge in wanting to
do a little bit more around men. You're also that's
your most fertile window, and then that luteal phase is
really about sort of winding down at that point.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So when people talk about that idea of hacking your
cycle for your own well being, it really can be done.
You just need to know sort of where you're at
in it.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Absolutely, it's all about sort of using your cycle in
your favor, so using it as a tool for wisdom
rather than letting it run your life.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Doctor pav do women who don't bleed or have a
period still experience these different phases?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
They can, so for some people, their cycles are a
little bit more irregular, so they don't necessarily run along
to that twenty eight day cycle. For some people that
are on the pill, you know, where they're getting a
constant level of hormone, they may not experience those symptoms
to that degree. And certainly the period that you have
in those people that take their sugar pills is more
of a withdrawal bleed rather than a true period, so
(14:05):
the symptoms often far less pronounced. But anyone that is
off mbulating, we'll tend to experience those sort of phases.
It's just the timing maybe a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with
us today. The quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano,
and Claire Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill.
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily
news podcast, The Quikie. There's been reports Australians and other
activists on board the Global Samud Flotilla to Gaza have
been allegedly abused and mistreated after their vessels were intercepted
by Israeli authorities. We'll speak to one Australian activist, family
and friends about his experience, plus what is my loutial
(00:44):
face and why is everyone talking about it? Before we
get there, here's Clare Murphy with the latest from the
Quickie newsroom for Wednesday, October eighth.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Thanks Taylor. Australian activists in Israeli detention for attempting to
deliver a to Gaza have been deported to Jordan. The
Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade have confirmed that seven
Australians held by Israeli authorities since attempting to bring boatloads
of aid into Gaza on the Samud flotilla alongside activist
Greta Dunburg, have been freed. A spokesman for Foreign Minister
(01:13):
Penny Wong said the government was pleased they've been released
from detention. Their release follows Australian representations to Israeli authorities
over their welfare and treatment. Zelda Williams is begging people
to stop sending her AI videos of her late dad,
Robin Williams, the Hollywood legend, took his own life in
twenty fourteen at his California home his thirty six year
old daughter, saying people choosing to make artificial intelligence videos
(01:36):
of him is gross. She wrote in a post on
social media to watch the legacies of real people be
condensed down to this vaguely looks and sounds like them,
So that's enough, just so other people can churn out
horrible TikTok slop. Puppeteering them is maddening. She went on
to say, you're not making art. You're making disgusting, overprocessed
(01:56):
hot dogs out of the lives of human beings, out
of the history of art and music, and then shoving
them down someone else's throat, hoping they'll give you a
little thumbs up and like it. It's International Plasma Week.
The mum of Australia's only child with severe Factor V deficiency,
urging Aussies to consider donating. Australian Red Cross Lifeblood says
demand for plasma is soaring, with forty five thousand plasma
(02:19):
medications and transfusions needed every year. That means seventeen five
hundred bags of donations are required every week. While Australia
is one of the top three uses of plasma medications
per capita in the world, fewer than one percent of
Australians donate. Brisbane mum Alexandra Dray says her son Joey
was diagnosed with the rare severe Factor V condition at
(02:40):
just four months old and it's been a scary ride
for their family.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So he pretty much doesn't make plasma naturally and that
is the protein that clots your blood. So if he falls,
he's at risk of brain bleeds, muscle bleeds, joint bleeds
and any internal bleeding. So any kind of knock, particularly
to his head, we have to rushing straight to emergency
just as a precaution. He has been receiving plasma since
(03:06):
the beginning of January this year and with that plans
he can lead a completely normal life. He's a normal
little little toddler. It's a lifesaver, it's a life changer,
it's a life giver. It's everything, in absolutely everything.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
If you're keen to donate, you can reach out to
Lifeblood on thirteen, fourteen ninety five or head to their website.
Tennis Snovak Djokovic has thrown up and passed out while
playing in brutally hot conditions in China, but still went
on to win his match. After losing a long second set,
the thirty eight year old appeared to collapse, laying sprawled
out behind the baseline before being helped back to his
(03:43):
chair by a trainer. He'd already been treated for an
achilles issue, with many thinking he wouldn't be able to
recover from this point. After train has checked his vitals,
he went on to not only finish the two hour
and forty one minute match against spaniard U may Mina,
he won it, skipping the postmatch interview but posting online
that it was a tough day at the office, but
luckily he has the greatest support team in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Thanks Claire. Next, what happened when Israel intercepted this and
Mudflati well as peace talks continue to end the war
in Gaza. Humanitarian boats carrying international activists, including Australians, have
been stopped for trying to break Israel's naval blockade of Strip.
(04:27):
Known as the Global Samud Flotilla, a group of over
forty civilian boats carrying around five hundred activists from around
the world set sail in late August. The flotilla included
well known activists Greta Tunberg and several Australians. Their aim
to deliver aid along the forty kilometre coastline of Gaza,
drawing attention to the situation on the ground, But before
(04:51):
they could reach Gaza, about seventy nautical miles off the coast,
the group were intercepted by Israeli forces in international waters
and detained at the Porterbash DoD. Inside detention, Australian activists
have reported harsh conditions, claiming physical abuse, beatings and intense interrogations.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Has reported that Syria has been physically and verbally abused
to what amounts to torture. He has been the subject
to threats of sexual abuse. He has had his head
slammed against the concrete. He has had his shoulder dislocated.
He has been the subject of sleep deprivation techniques and
has not slept since he has been arrested. This is
all reported to Justin to McEwen his mum through DEFAT.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's Jess. She's a close friend of Syria McEwen, one
of the Australians detained by Israel. Jess says the Department
of Foreign Affairs and Trade have been in contact Suria's
family visiting him in prison. Jess also said Syria and
other activists on board had clear intentions for the flotilla.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
They wanted to reiterate as well before they left that
they don't believe themselves to be heroes. They don't believe
themselves to be brave. They're incredibly scared, and yet they
fear of watching this genocide unfold that proved to be
more powerful than the fear for their own safety.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Surria's mum, Jacinta, says the last time she spoke to
her son was not long before the boat he was on,
the Mia Mia, was intercepted. Suria is now unable to
contact his family and is reportedly on a hunger strike,
but he has been able to pass this message onto
his mum via DEFAT officials.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
He did manage to say to the officialist send the
message to my mum that don't think of it as
a hunger strike, think of it as a fast because
I'm an health worker. Even from inside, he's trying to
reassure me and that's really sweet. But yeah, we're incredibly worried.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's believed seven Australians are on board the flotilla boats.
Jacinta says their families are deeply worried about how they've
been treated since Israel intercepted their vessels.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
The families feel a bit desperate. They're not being treated well.
They've been maltreated.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Some activists allege they had their hands tied. Others described
body checks, cold cells, lack of drinkable water, and even
having to dance in front of guards. Greta Tundberg had
this to say after arriving in Greece following her deportation
from Israel. What we came to do with the global
still levels to step up when our governments failed to.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Do with their legal obligation.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Israeli authorities insist all legal rights were fully upheld and
detainings have been given food, water, restrooms, and humane treatment.
This isn't the first time the freedom flotilla has attempted
to deliver aid to Gaza back in September, participants said
two of their boats were targeted by incendiary devices dropped
from drones off the coast of Tunisia. The Australian government
(07:49):
says it's providing consular support to those detained and has
called for humane treatment of all Australians on board. Deputy
Prime Minister Richard Miles told the ABC the Australian Government
has continued to provide consular assistance to the Australians detained.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
We had made it clear that Austrands should not be
in a position of trying to breach the blockade which exists.
That was very much a matter in terms of their
own safety. But in the circumstances that are now there,
we will continue to provide consona assistance to these people.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We will of course keep you updated on this story.
In the QUICKI News headlines A question for the group,
do you ever just feel like burning it all to
the ground. Look, it could mean a number of things,
maybe even what stage of your menstrual cycle you're in.
Say hello to the luteal phase from TikTok to your
(08:44):
group chats. The luteal phase has become shorthand for feeling low,
out of sorts, or as some may say, like burn
it all down. If I were a president, I would
literally make it a lie that women are not allowed
to look at themselves during their loutial fees.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
I am a completely different person a few days before
my period, But.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Why does it get such a bad rap. The menstrual
cycle has four phases, menstrual, follicular, ovulation, and louteal. The
lutial phase is the final stretch, about two weeks after ovulation,
when progesterone peaks the uterine lighting preps for pregnancy, and
then if there's no fertilization, it all drops, triggering menstruation.
(09:23):
Hormones fluctuate wildly here with rising progesterone and changing estrogen ratios. Basically,
it can take your body on a wild ride, saw breasts, floating, acne,
all the good stuff. But wait, there's more. Mentally, it
can also hit harder think mood swings, irritability, tearfulness, anxiety,
(09:43):
even social withdrawal. For some, this is the heart of
PMS or pre menstrual syndrome country. So while the chatter
lately as people get more in tune with their cycles.
There's a wider acceptance of self care strategies, whether that's
taking quiet days, practicing radical compassion for yourself, or even
pre planning social events to match energetic phases in your cycle.
(10:06):
To tell us more, we're joined by gynecologist doctor Pavna Kara.
Doctor have what are the four phases of a menstrual cycle.
So we start with the menstrual phase, which is when
you get your period, and typically that's about three to
five days and that starts your menstrual cycle. The second
phase is the follicular phase, so this is when your
(10:27):
body is getting ready to release an egg, so your
estrogen levels start to rise and during this phase you
might start to notice things like more energy. And then
the ovulatory phase is when your body releases an egg,
so that's when your estrogen levels peak. And the last
stage is the luteal phase, so this is where your
progesterone levels slowly start to rise in preparation for a
(10:49):
pregnancy up until your next menstrual phase again, which is
where if an egg isn't fertilized, you'll go through another
menstrual phase and have a period. So beyond trying to
conceive or maybe trying not to conceive. Why is it
important to know what phase you're in?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
So previously a lot of people would put down things
like mood changes or irritability. Into the lead up to
a period is something like PMS. But nowadays where there's
more of a push to recognizing what phase of the
cycle you're in and sort of sinking your lifestyle around
your cycle, so making it work for you rather than
letting it lead your life.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Okay, so the luteal phase is blowing up online at
the moment people say it's the time before their period
arrives when they feel like they just need to burn
everything down, maybe scream into the void. We've also heard
of things like it being described as the cave phase.
What's actually happening in your body during the luteal phase?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
So the lyteal phase happens after that egg has been
released and is usually where progesterone levels are starting to
rise in preparation for a pregnancy. About a week before
your period, those progesterone levels will suddenly start to fall,
and that's when you can start to experience things like
mood changes, fatigue, irritability, bloating. You can start to feel
(12:06):
really tired, and so for some people that's a really
disabling thing and it can mean that they can't really
function to their full potential. But for other people, it's
more of a time to kind of zone out. They
get intense focused, they can calm down a little bit.
They might focus on things like movement and gentle exercise
rather than sort of the gung ho activities.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You mentioned before about there's now more of a movement
and mindfulness in syncing up our lifestyles and activities that
were maybe doing. Depending on what part of our cycle
we're in, what are some of those other mental or
physical impacts during the other phases of a menstrual cycle.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
So often during the menstrual phase, because you are bleeding,
you might feel a little bit more tired, want to
keep to yourself, you know. That's another sort of cave
period of the phases. During the follicular phase, as your
estudent levels are rising, you might have a lot more energy.
You know, when we talk about syncing with things like workouts,
that might be when you're doing more of your strength
training and your heavier workouts, or if you're doing your
(13:04):
work that might be when you have a lot of
really great ideas and fantastic projects and things like that.
The ovulatory phase, that's when your eastern levels are really rising,
so you might get a big surge in wanting to
do a little bit more around men. You're also that's
your most fertile window, and then that luteal phase is
really about sort of winding down at that point.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So when people talk about that idea of hacking your
cycle for your own well being, it really can be done.
You just need to know sort of where you're at
in it.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Absolutely, it's all about sort of using your cycle in
your favor, so using it as a tool for wisdom
rather than letting it run your life.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Doctor pav do women who don't bleed or have a
period still experience these different phases?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
They can, so for some people, their cycles are a
little bit more irregular, so they don't necessarily run along
to that twenty eight day cycle. For some people that
are on the pill, you know, where they're getting a
constant level of hormone, they may not experience those symptoms
to that degree. And certainly the period that you have
in those people that take their sugar pills is more
of a withdrawal bleed rather than a true period, so
(14:05):
the symptoms often far less pronounced. But anyone that is
off mbulating, we'll tend to experience those sort of phases.
It's just the timing maybe a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with
us today. The quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano,
and Claire Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill.
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