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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a Mumma Mea podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma's twice daily news podcast,
The Quickie. While the US is concerned about pregnant women
and paracetamol this week, Australia has been locked in on
a different health issue, kids and melatonin, after a spiking
calls to the poison hotline and an online retailer suspending
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sales of melotonin gummy products to Australia. Just what are
the rules around dishing up melotonin products at bedtime? Plus
new research shows a very unexpected side effect of gen
z living at home for longer and it's not sexy.
Literally before we get there, here's Claire Murphy with the
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latest from the QUICKI newsroom for Friday, September twenty six.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Thanks Taylor, and Australian grandmother convicted of drug smuggling has
lost her appeal in a Japanese court despite arguing that
she was the victim of an elaborate romance scam. Fifty
nine year old Perth woman Donna Nelson appealed the six
year sentence handed down in December last year for bringing
two kilos of methan fhetamine into the country. In January
twenty twenty three, Nelson was arrested at Japan's Narita International
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Airport after customs officials found the drugs hidden under a
false bottom in a suitcase. The Aboriginal community leader had
told the court she was unaware of the drugs and
she was carrying the suitcase from a man she hoped
to marry. On Thursday, the Tokyo High Court dismissed Nelson's
defense lawyer's request for her acquittal and the argument that
she was a romance scam victim with no awareness or
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intent of drug trafficking for profit. The judge said Nelson
was fully capable and had time to think and realized
that something was wrong with the man's request. Sean Diddy
Combs's lawyer has urged a judge to set aside the
jury's verdict finding him guilty of prostitution charges. The fifty
five year old, who was present in court, faced up
to two twenty years in prison after he was convicted
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on July second, Duras finding he paid male escorts to
travel across state lines to have sex with his girlfriends
while he filmed and pleasured himself. He was cleared of
the more serious charges relating to sex trafficking and racketeering.
Colmbs's lawyer claims that his client's commercial voyeurism does not
qualify as prostitution, saying the law criminalizing transportation to engage
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in prostitution should only be applied to those who took
part in the sexual activity or to those who made
money off the prostitutes who were involved. The prosecution says
Comes didn't need to personally take part in the sex
acts to be convicted, since he helped arrange for the
mail escorts to travel. Combs is scheduled to be sentenced
on October three, should his conviction be upheld. In a
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court filing earlier this week, his lawyers suggested a fourteen
month sentence that would see him released soon, as he'd
be credited for the time already spent in jail. Prosecutors
are due to file their own sentencing recommendation on September
twenty nine. There are calls for migraine sufferers to receive attention,
with one in three Australian women living with the condition,
according to research from gen Howe's for Women's Health. Australian
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women are twice as likely as men to experience migraines,
with sufferers and researchers saying investment is needed to find
treatments that would help close the significant health blind spot.
The chronic condition is more than just a headache, but
a complex neurological event. Gene hails Sarah White, saying for women,
it hits hardest in their thirties, right when they're building careers, families,
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and their futures. Addressing migraines would not only improve millions
of women's lives, but it would boost the global economy
by one hundred and twenty one billion dollars, according to
data from the twenty twenty five World Economic Forum in
sites report. Animated TV show South Park has aired its
first episode after Jimmy Kimmel was suspended for comments around
the murder of right wing activist Charlie Kirk. The show
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did not air a scheduled episode directly after the Kimmel
Show was taken off the air, the creators saying they'd
missed a deadline and that they'd left things a bit
too late, but it had that's some speculating they'd stopped
production for fear of also being canceled due to their
controversial takes on current world events. A recent storyline has
US President Donald Trump in a relationship with Satan, but
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that speculation has been put to rest with this later
show titled Conflict of Interest, continuing the storyline of Trump
impregnating Satan, but this time Trump is trying to end
the pregnancy, each attempt ending up with FCC chim and
Brendan Carr, who threatened to pull ABC's broadcasting license over
the Kimmel Show being hurt by the traps laid out
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by the President falling down the stairs, having explosive diarrhea
after being poisoned, and ending up in hospital where he
nearly loses his freedom of speech.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Thanks Claire. Next, Melatonin and your Kids. It's a scenario
that's playing out in homes across Australia. A tired parent
desperate for sleep gives melotonin gummings to their child, usually
procured from an online Rea Taylor, and while they may
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have consulted their gp about giving melatonin to their kid,
many people are unaware melatonin is actually a regulated substance
in Australia, something that should be prescribed to a patient
by a doctor educated on the risk factors of taking
a medicine. As a reminder, melatonin is a hormone produced
by your body to regulate your internal clock.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And sleep wake cycle.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It can also be taken as a medicine to help
with sleep issues, and can be prescribed by a doctor
for adults or for children with autism who have trouble
hitting the hay at bedtime. But an issue has come
to light with melatonin, there's growing concern over the use
of gummy forms of the product aimed specifically for use
in children. In addition to a spike in children in
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ingesting melatonin, poisons Hotline received a record surge of almost
fifteen hundred calls about kids under fourteen ingesting melatonin last year,
more than double the calls made in twenty nineteen. Most
exposures were accidental children mistaking gummies for lollies or increct dosages,
but the spike has experts sounding the alarm. While severe
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outcomes have been rare, Symptoms of overdose can include headaches,
excessive drowsiness, and sometimes nausea or vomiting. It's important to
note melatonin in a flavored gummy form is not readily
available for purchase in Australia. It is a regulated medicine
and must be prescribed by a doctor for use in
children and adults alike, but parents are sourcing these melatonin
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gummies online, where dosage can.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Be wildly inconsistent.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Earlier this month, online retailer i Herb that's a popular
store for everything from supplements to snack foods, announced it'll
suspend sales of melatonin in Australia in a statement citing
the health and wellbeing of their customers as first priority.
The company, however, has not confirmed whether the data from
Poison's hotline is influenced its decision. Selpus unpack exactly how
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worried parents should be and what you can do if
melotone is off the menu. We're joined by President of
the Australian Medical Association, doctor Daniel McMullen. Danielle, is it
safe to give our kids melatonin?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Obviously, all medicines come with potential risks and benefits, and
before starting any medication in your kids, it's really important
to talk to your doctor. And that's really the main
message at the moment around melatonin and children.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
While it's a.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Safe medication to use in many circumstances and can be
particularly useful to help kids with autism who have trouble
with sleeping, it's really important to talk to your doctor first.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
What is melatonin actually used for then, and who should
be using it, who should be prescribed to You've mentioned
their kids with autism. Potentially it's a way to help
them get to sleep, but in general, what's the difference
between this and say, popping a sleeping pill.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yes, so, melatonin is the hormone that our bodies naturally
make to tell us basically whether it's daytime or nighttime,
and to help us with that sleep cycle. It's natural
for us to have higher melatonin levels overnight when we
should be asleep, and it promotes that kind of RESTful state.
So it is different to other sleep aid tablets, and
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I guess the first thing to say is it's really
important to remember that no medicine is the first thing
that we do when people are having trouble sleeping.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
There's a lot of other strategies we like to try.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It first, but in certain people who have difficulty either.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Getting to sleep or staying asleep, the children.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Particularly those with audition more ANTHD or older adults who
often also have trouble with their sleep cycle. Melatonin can
be helpful medication to be prescribed.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
There's a lot of parents who are now concerned that
they used to be able to buy things like meloton
and gummies specifically for their children online or overseas, and
now sales for that are suspended at places like I herb.
Can they still get these gummies through their doctors or
can they walk in to the shops and pick them up.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Off the shelf.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Melatonin actually, in Australia, of prescription medication at the doses
that are effective for helping sleep, being able to access
them online was always a bit of a loophole. We
don't have TGA approved gummy products for children. There is
a prescription product available for children in Australia and it's
just about going and talking to your doctor and making
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sure that it really is the right medication choice for
your kids.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And the benefit of using.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
A prescription product is that it's been through our TGA
safety checking, that there's quality assurance and you really know
what you're going to get, which you don't necessarily know online.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
There's been the spike in calls to the Poison Hotline
of children ingesting melotonin, whether accidentally or being given too
much of it. What does a melotonin overdose look like
and is that a concern if we're seeing young children
experiencing it.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
That really highlights that looking after all medicines at home
is really important. And even if something comes in a
gummy form, it doesn't make it a lllly and we've
got to look after these medicines the same way you
would any other tablets or liquids at home. Melotonin overdose
or taking extra melatonin usually causes not surprisingly sleepiness, drowsiness
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and can cause headaches, but can also cause nausea and vomiting,
and really isn't a safe thing to be doing. That's
part of the reason that the access to these products
has been tightened up, along with the fact that they
were never really supposed to be available in Australia without
a prescription.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Anyway, they're not supposed to be available in Australia without
prescription and sales have been suspended for some of these
outlets online. But how much of an onus is on
the companies here say if they are able to be
sold back in Australia parents are able to purchase these
fruits and vanilla flavored gummies to give their kids before
they go to bed. Is there an onus on the
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companies that they should maybe reconsidered, like the packaging or
the flavoring of these types of products, because that seems
to be one of the breakdowns here when people perceiving them,
especially children sometimes as well as something like Lolly like
you mentioned there.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So we can control for all of those things, product packaging, flavors,
how many are in a packet when products are regulated
through the TGA, and that's from vitamins on the shelf
in the supermarket right through the prescription products. But where
we can't control that is over the internet. And so
it's really important for people to remember that if they're
buying products on the internet, they haven't been through those
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same safety regulations, and so our strong advice actually is
to avoid buying health products through those channels and instead
stick to regulated products on the shelves here in Australia.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
All right, Daniel, final one for you. Then, if folks
are not able to get these melotonin gummies or prescriptions
to their children, but they still want to practice good
sleep hygiene, what are some of the alternatives to giving
your kid melotonin.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Then it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
In fact, there's many steps before reaching for medicines and pills.
Step one, go talk to your GP. We're full of
strategies to help. It's often about having a really stable
bedtime routine with wind down time away from screens in
that hour or so before bedtime to really encourage our
bodies to understand that it's nighttime. It's dim lighting quiet noises,
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maybe doing something gentle like reading a book or regularly
having that pathtime with kids before bed and encouraging that
routine is probably the best advice.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Cost of living pressures have led more Gen Z adults
to stay living at home longer than any previous generation,
and that's changing everything.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
With sky high.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Rents and home ownership further and further out of reach,
many young people in their late teens and early twenties
are delaying moving out, often sharing tight quarters with family.
Now that has led to many consequences, fighting it out
for the best spot in the morning bathroom schedule, someone
questioning you every coming and going, and some other consequences too,
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like how and when you, for lack of a better word,
get on for a growing number. Having parents or siblings
in the next room makes intimacy at home awkward or
just downright impossible. But Gen Z friends are crafty buggers
the unexpected results.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
More people are turning to public spaces like cars, public toilets,
or even workplaces for privacy when it comes to sex.
But these very, very public displays of affection are not
just a quirky trend. Interviews with young Assi's report that
living at home so long can impact identity, mental health,
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and overall well being, including those relationships. But despite the headlines,
the average Gen Z adult is having less sex than
older generations, which kind of makes sense if they're not
getting down to it in their childhood bedroom and feel
like the boardroom is probably not appropriate evil So just
how often are they having sex?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well about thirty six.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Times a year compared to more than seventy for millennials.
Researchers say it's not just about bedrooms. Stress, uncertainty, and
the struggle to see a path out of mum and
dad's house are having ripple effects across all areas of life,
even their sex life. Thanks for taking some time to
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feed your mind with us today, the Quickie is produced
by me Taylor Strano, and Claire Murphy, with audio production
by Lou Hill.