June 15, 2025 • 16 mins
What's going on with IVF in Australia? From embryo mix ups to calls for nationalised regulation, we're looking at the latest developments.
Plus, has the winter weather hit you too? Before we spiral about cooler climates and the toll it'll take on our mental health, there's a new trend that could be the cure.
And in headlines today US President Donald Trump claims Iran and Israel will have peace soon as both countries launch fresh attacks on each other; Millions reportedly turned out to protest against the Trump administration as the President watched a military parade on his birthday; Police in Bali are still searching for the shooter who killed an Australian man in his vila; Victoria Beckham has praised her husband David who was knighted during the Kings birthday celebrations.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey, I'm table Strano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily
news podcast, The Quickie. After two shocking embryo mix ups,
the CEO of Monash IVF has resigned. IVF in Australia
has been in the spotlight for this and many other
reasons recently. So where to from here? Plus, if you've
(00:42):
been freezing inside your home, you're not imagining it. Australian
houses are amongst some of the coldest in the world.
But there's a new trend that might help Before we
get there. Hugh's Clare Murphy with the latest from the
Quickie News room for Monday, June sixteenth, Thanks Taylor.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
US President Donald Trump has posted to social media that
he ran in Israel will have peace soon, as both
countries launched fresh attacks on each other overnight. Trump's comments
contry predict those made by Israeli President Benjamin Netnyahu, who
said on Saturday that Israel's campaign against Iran will intensify.
Israeli rescue teams yesterday scoured through the rubble of buildings
(01:20):
destroyed by Iranian missiles, using sniffer dogs and heavy excavators
to search for survivors after at least ten people, including
many children, were killed, raising the two day death toll
in Israel to thirteen. Meanwhile, in Iran, images from the
capital Tehran show the night sky lit up by a
huge blaze at a fuel depot Israel's striking the country's
(01:40):
oil and gas sector. Iranian authorities have not reported an
official death toll, but it's believes seventy eight people are
killed on Friday, with many more having died since then,
including up to sixty people, half of those children who
were in a fourteen story apartment block in Tehran that
was hit by an air strike on Saturday. Israel launched
Operation Rising Line on Friday, targeting Iran's military command, also
(02:03):
damaging several nuclear sites and killing at least fourteen Iranian
nuclear scientists. The Israeli Militi has warned anyone living near
weapons facility to leave immediately. Israel claims the strikes are
preventative to address Iran's plan to construct a nuclear weapon. However,
there are reports there's no evidence to back this claim.
Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong said that the situation in
(02:25):
the region was a very perilous, risky one, but said
that Israel has a right to self defense. She said
that Iran's nuclear program poses a threat to international peace
and obviously to Israel. As US President Donald Trump celebrated
his birthday with a military parade, millions of Americans joined
No Kings demonstrations across the country. The various state governors
(02:46):
urged for calm as the people took to the streets.
Some vowed to take a no tolerance approach, mobilizing the
National Guard ahead of the gatherings. Confrontations appeared to remain minimal,
except for in La, where protests over recent federal immigration
enforcement raids erupted a week earlier. Tear gas and crowd
control munitions were again used to clear protesters. After the
(03:07):
formal event ended, the crowds march danced held up signs
saying things like my grandpa fought fascism, My turn now
as they walked across New York, Denver, Chicago, Austin, and LA.
While in Washington, where Trump was watching the military parade
marking the army's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, Around two
hundred protests assembled, chanting Trump must go now. In Minnesota,
(03:29):
Governor Tim Waltz encouraged people not to attend rallies following
the shooting death of one Democratic senator in their home
and the wounding of another. Still, tens of thousands of
people turned out, including groups that marched on the state's capital.
The shooter remains at large, with police saying they had
located his car, which contained no kings flyers and documents
including the names of the victims and other lawmakers and officials.
(03:53):
Police in Bali are still searching for the gunmen who
shot and killed an Australian man in his villa north
of Koda on the weekend. Zivan Radmanovich, who was staying
in the villa with his wife and another couple, was
killed after being shot twice in the chest. A second
man was injured in the attack. Witnesses say they heard
the alleged gunman speaking with a strong Australian accent. Police
(04:13):
are now searching the island, a favorite holiday destination for
Australian tourists, for the perpetrators. Victoria Beckham has said she
couldn't be proud of her husband David after he was
knighted at the King's Birthday celebrations this weekend. The former
Spye girl turned fashion designer has been married to Beckham
since nineteen ninety nine, posting to social media saying that
he had always been her night in shining armor, but
(04:35):
now it's official. She explained that his dedication to the
things that matter most, his country, his passions, and most
of all, his family has never wavered. She said the
way he's touched so many lives over the years with
kindness and humility speaks volumes about the man he is
and continues to inspire them every day. The couple will
now be known as Sir David Beckham and Lady Victoria Beckham,
(04:56):
the man himself saying the experience was truly humbling.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Thanks Claire. Next the crisis facing Australia's IVF industry. Last week,
Monash IVF chief executive Michael Napp resigned following a second
embryo mix up in just two months now. The latest
incidents saw a patient receive their own embryo instead of
(05:21):
their partners, contrary to the treatment plan. It follows a
Brisbane case where a woman gave birth to a baby
with no genetic link to her after being implanted with
another patient's embryo. These incidents have sparked calls for tighter
regulation of the IVF industry, with some families now considering
DNA tests to confirm their children are actually biologically theirs.
(05:44):
To help us understand what's happening in the fertility sector,
we're joined by fertility commentator and host of the Secrets
We Keep By Any Means podcast, Amelia Oberhart. Amelia, can
you walk us through these two recent embryo mix ups
that Monash have seen happen.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
There's two couples in Brisbane. They do not know each other.
Couple A has an embryo transfer happened through Monash. They
put the baby in, they get pregnant, they give birth
to that child. That child's about six months old. They
ring Monash to say hey, move our remaining embryos out
of Monash to a different clinic. And when I say yes, no,
(06:19):
worries will transfer all nine And they say well no,
there should only be eight. And they say well no
there's nine. And they say well no there's eight because
I've just given birth to one. And that's what allegedly
alerted Monash to knowing, Hey, we've got a big mix
up here. These couples obviously haven't come out publicly. Monash,
because it's a publicly listed company, had to report this
(06:40):
to both its board and its shareholders. That's why this
came out and obviously was quite explosive. Couple B that's
their biological child, but Couple A have given birth to
their biological child. I mean, no one knows the circumstances.
They don't know whether those embryos from couple BEE were
planning on being used, whether they already had a family.
(07:00):
I mean, it's a lot of circumstance and things we
cannot know right now. But what we do know is
that the wrong embryo was transferred into the wrong woman
and that's a huge mistake. The one that happen in Melbourne,
just shy of two months later, is that a same
sex couple, the woman that was getting implanted was meant
to be implanted with her partner's embryo, but instead they've
(07:20):
implanted her with her own. It is still a monumental mistake,
and it's human life. That's happened twice in two months
by human error.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I think that when we hear these stories a merely
a people go how could this possibly happen? How are
they're not more checks and balances going on in these companies?
Can you clarify a little bit for us? How is
the IVF industry currently regulated? I know that each individual
company would have their own protocols and practices, but broadly,
is there much implac here? No?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And I mean that's a huge issue that we identified
very early on when we were doing the podcast, was
this absolute fundamental need for a federal governing body. Currently,
fertility it sits on a state by state basis under healthcare.
The states aren't speaking to each other. There's thirty different
pieces of legation, none of them were really inforced. It's
(08:12):
patchwork at best, and there's a lack of repercussions for
these companies when these mistakes happen. They're not being really
held to any account apart from their share price tumbling.
You know, this is human life, and nobody really has
ever stopped to say, hey, who's looking after this and
who's actually going to put into place measures so that
(08:33):
huge mistakes cannot happen.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And that's echoed by the Fertility Society of Australia. They've
also called for a nationally consistent framework. If something like
that were to be introduced, what would it mean.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Particularly for don't conceived children who have a huge issue
with the fact that they don't have access to their
identifying information medical records fifty percent of their DNA I mean,
I can understand the use of anonymous sperm was hugely
used in the eighties and nineties, and it was used
helping couples have biological children. When the mail was sterile,
they thought no one would ever find out. I respect
(09:06):
that at the time. Everybody signed the agreement knowing what
was happening, but what they didn't see coming was DNA testing,
and that's what's really lifting the lid on sperm downers
and the use of anonymity. Second to that same work
would look like streamlining all of the clinics to all
have the same checks and balances, you know, introducing legislation
if things go wrong. Because Monash is a publicly listed company,
(09:28):
it had to report mishaps and misdemeanors and incidents, whereas
private companies don't because they're not really answering to anybody,
so therefore they can pay compensations sign NDAs and we
just don't know about it. So the fact that two
and two months have happened in a public li listic
company is pretty indicative that mistakes have happened in the past,
but probably being dealt with privately.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
We're also saying now that advocates calling for families to
get DNA tests done if they've conceived or used the
services of IVF. We've spoken to people here at Mamma
Mia who are currently going through that process and weighing
up whether or not to do DNA testing to confirm
that their children are biologically There's that mus be another
(10:10):
layer to what is already a really complex pathway to
parenthood and to growing your family that you probably didn't
consider when you initially signed up to use an IVF service.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
The prevalence of DNA testing is something nobody saw coming,
certainly not at the precedence it exploded. You know, for
fifty dollars, you can spit in a tube of Christmas
and sometimes you're finding out Dad's not Dad. Other times
you're finding out huge family secrets. That's just one part
of it. I can understand and completely sympathize with the
anxiety when somebody has spent not just the financial money,
(10:43):
but the emotional toll IVF takes from people. It's often
the last resort from an already very tumultuous, rocky and
painstaking road to then have a seat of doubt be
planted that hey, oh my god, maybe my child is
at my child. I can totally respect that need and
the availability of DNA testing to just run out and
say I just want reassurance, and everybody should probably be
(11:05):
offered that. But if you look at it, one hundred
thousand babies per year are IVF. These two things are
a complete tragedy and obvious huge mistakes. But I don't
think it's happened in tens of thousands or that you know,
there's a need to panic necessarily that I can also
sympathize with a hey I need to know, and that's
completely justified.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
So anyone who's currently going through IVF, what sort of
questions would you suggest that they bring to their clinic.
I mean, it must be quite terrifying to see these
stories flying around the news media. What would you suggest
they do if they're still going through the process and
are worried.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I spoke to someone this morning who suggested that there
should be two embryoologists on stuff. I think we largely
depend on software and these computers and robots and all
of this to do things for us. But both of
these times Monash have said it was human error, you know,
and humans do make mistakes, that's just who we are.
So is there a need to maybe have two people
(12:03):
checking it again? I think that'll come out of the
Federal hopefully inquiry of the conversations. What checks and balances
are place if you were going into the clinic to
ensure this isn't going to happen? And I can only
imagine these clinics have been in a day that their
phones would be bringing all day. What checks and balances
did you put into place retrospectively or going forward? How
do I know my embryos are safe? And that is
a valid question and one that I think even the
(12:25):
clinics will very much understand. But you're not physically ever there,
So you are really putting your faith in a system
and in a clinic, and the outcome is phenomenal. IVF
is the greatest invention we've ever had. But I mean,
you'll never be able to control it, so you just
need to. I guess decide whether you're comfortable trusting the system,
trusting your doctor, trusting the clinic that you're using. But
(12:45):
certainly I'd just be asking as many questions as I
could and just trying to ensure that all the checks
and balances are in place at the specific clinic that
you go through.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Okay, so quickie, friends, I need to share. Recently I
stepped off a plane returning from a glorious, warm, tropical
holiday in Indonesia. What I arrived back to can only
be described as an icy shock to the system. And
while I thought, what fresh hell is this? I've also
(13:17):
been thinking how on earth am I supposed to survive
this winter season. I've been thinking about is my housewarm enough?
Is it wrong to wear two pairs of socks to work?
Will my coworkers judged me? But of course, before I
spiraled anymore, I've been doing my research, obviously, starting with TikTok,
a viral video from a Canadian living in Victoria has
(13:40):
confirmed what many of us have long suspected Australian homes well,
they're exceptionally cold.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
The most master up part about living in Australia is
that people genuinely say to me, oh, you're a Canadian,
so you shouldn't be able to feel the cold, when
I can confidently tell you that the callus that I
have ever been is living in a Melbourne sharehouse in
the middle of July and lying in my own bed
trying to fall asleep, being able to see my own
breath well, only being able to warm myself with a
tiny space heater and an electric blanket. Like, I don't
(14:08):
know why Australia was like, let's not inflate our houses.
Let's all just put on a CapMan do jacket and
call it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
A day now. Of course, I back this up with
some confirmed data. According to the World Health Organization, eighty
one percent of Australian homes don't make the minimum standard
for not cult which is eighteen degrees inside. In Tasmania,
houses average just eleven degrees during winter, while in Victoria
(14:36):
more than a quarter of homes don't get above fourteen.
This isn't just about comfort, experts say these low temperatures
have significant implications for both physical and mental health. But
there's a new trend helping people combat the winter blues.
It's called cozymaxing. As the name suggests, The practice involves
creating the ultimate cozy environment to decompress and reach out.
(15:01):
It starts with the basics a warm shower, fresh sheets,
comfortable pajamas, and fluffy socks. Adds soft lighting from lamps
AK eight, no harsh overhead lights, flickering candles, and a
warm drink within reach. The key is to create a
(15:23):
sanctuary where you can properly slow down and re energize.
Psychologists say it's not just about comfort, it's about self soothing.
In a world of constant stimulation, when we're stressed at
work or overwhelmed with life's demands, a soothing, cozy environment
can help us feel better. Just remember to use it
(15:43):
in moderation. There's a difference between taking time to reset
and avoiding important responsibilities. The goal is to recharge, not retreat.
So I guess there goes my plans of double bagging
my feet and hiding under the bed covers till the
very last moment before work starts. Nevertheless, maybe cozy maxing
(16:05):
is the way through the upcoming wintery season. Thanks for
taking some time to feed your mind with us today.
The Quikie is produced by me Taylor Strano and Clare Murphy.
With audio production by Lou Hill. MoMA Mea Studios are
styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton. Visit Fenton and
Fenton dot com, dot au
You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey, I'm table Strano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily
news podcast, The Quickie. After two shocking embryo mix ups,
the CEO of Monash IVF has resigned. IVF in Australia
has been in the spotlight for this and many other
reasons recently. So where to from here? Plus, if you've
(00:42):
been freezing inside your home, you're not imagining it. Australian
houses are amongst some of the coldest in the world.
But there's a new trend that might help Before we
get there. Hugh's Clare Murphy with the latest from the
Quickie News room for Monday, June sixteenth, Thanks Taylor.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
US President Donald Trump has posted to social media that
he ran in Israel will have peace soon, as both
countries launched fresh attacks on each other overnight. Trump's comments
contry predict those made by Israeli President Benjamin Netnyahu, who
said on Saturday that Israel's campaign against Iran will intensify.
Israeli rescue teams yesterday scoured through the rubble of buildings
(01:20):
destroyed by Iranian missiles, using sniffer dogs and heavy excavators
to search for survivors after at least ten people, including
many children, were killed, raising the two day death toll
in Israel to thirteen. Meanwhile, in Iran, images from the
capital Tehran show the night sky lit up by a
huge blaze at a fuel depot Israel's striking the country's
(01:40):
oil and gas sector. Iranian authorities have not reported an
official death toll, but it's believes seventy eight people are
killed on Friday, with many more having died since then,
including up to sixty people, half of those children who
were in a fourteen story apartment block in Tehran that
was hit by an air strike on Saturday. Israel launched
Operation Rising Line on Friday, targeting Iran's military command, also
(02:03):
damaging several nuclear sites and killing at least fourteen Iranian
nuclear scientists. The Israeli Militi has warned anyone living near
weapons facility to leave immediately. Israel claims the strikes are
preventative to address Iran's plan to construct a nuclear weapon. However,
there are reports there's no evidence to back this claim.
Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong said that the situation in
(02:25):
the region was a very perilous, risky one, but said
that Israel has a right to self defense. She said
that Iran's nuclear program poses a threat to international peace
and obviously to Israel. As US President Donald Trump celebrated
his birthday with a military parade, millions of Americans joined
No Kings demonstrations across the country. The various state governors
(02:46):
urged for calm as the people took to the streets.
Some vowed to take a no tolerance approach, mobilizing the
National Guard ahead of the gatherings. Confrontations appeared to remain minimal,
except for in La, where protests over recent federal immigration
enforcement raids erupted a week earlier. Tear gas and crowd
control munitions were again used to clear protesters. After the
(03:07):
formal event ended, the crowds march danced held up signs
saying things like my grandpa fought fascism, My turn now
as they walked across New York, Denver, Chicago, Austin, and LA.
While in Washington, where Trump was watching the military parade
marking the army's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, Around two
hundred protests assembled, chanting Trump must go now. In Minnesota,
(03:29):
Governor Tim Waltz encouraged people not to attend rallies following
the shooting death of one Democratic senator in their home
and the wounding of another. Still, tens of thousands of
people turned out, including groups that marched on the state's capital.
The shooter remains at large, with police saying they had
located his car, which contained no kings flyers and documents
including the names of the victims and other lawmakers and officials.
(03:53):
Police in Bali are still searching for the gunmen who
shot and killed an Australian man in his villa north
of Koda on the weekend. Zivan Radmanovich, who was staying
in the villa with his wife and another couple, was
killed after being shot twice in the chest. A second
man was injured in the attack. Witnesses say they heard
the alleged gunman speaking with a strong Australian accent. Police
(04:13):
are now searching the island, a favorite holiday destination for
Australian tourists, for the perpetrators. Victoria Beckham has said she
couldn't be proud of her husband David after he was
knighted at the King's Birthday celebrations this weekend. The former
Spye girl turned fashion designer has been married to Beckham
since nineteen ninety nine, posting to social media saying that
he had always been her night in shining armor, but
(04:35):
now it's official. She explained that his dedication to the
things that matter most, his country, his passions, and most
of all, his family has never wavered. She said the
way he's touched so many lives over the years with
kindness and humility speaks volumes about the man he is
and continues to inspire them every day. The couple will
now be known as Sir David Beckham and Lady Victoria Beckham,
(04:56):
the man himself saying the experience was truly humbling.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Thanks Claire. Next the crisis facing Australia's IVF industry. Last week,
Monash IVF chief executive Michael Napp resigned following a second
embryo mix up in just two months now. The latest
incidents saw a patient receive their own embryo instead of
(05:21):
their partners, contrary to the treatment plan. It follows a
Brisbane case where a woman gave birth to a baby
with no genetic link to her after being implanted with
another patient's embryo. These incidents have sparked calls for tighter
regulation of the IVF industry, with some families now considering
DNA tests to confirm their children are actually biologically theirs.
(05:44):
To help us understand what's happening in the fertility sector,
we're joined by fertility commentator and host of the Secrets
We Keep By Any Means podcast, Amelia Oberhart. Amelia, can
you walk us through these two recent embryo mix ups
that Monash have seen happen.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
There's two couples in Brisbane. They do not know each other.
Couple A has an embryo transfer happened through Monash. They
put the baby in, they get pregnant, they give birth
to that child. That child's about six months old. They
ring Monash to say hey, move our remaining embryos out
of Monash to a different clinic. And when I say yes, no,
(06:19):
worries will transfer all nine And they say well no,
there should only be eight. And they say well no
there's nine. And they say well no there's eight because
I've just given birth to one. And that's what allegedly
alerted Monash to knowing, Hey, we've got a big mix
up here. These couples obviously haven't come out publicly. Monash,
because it's a publicly listed company, had to report this
(06:40):
to both its board and its shareholders. That's why this
came out and obviously was quite explosive. Couple B that's
their biological child, but Couple A have given birth to
their biological child. I mean, no one knows the circumstances.
They don't know whether those embryos from couple BEE were
planning on being used, whether they already had a family.
(07:00):
I mean, it's a lot of circumstance and things we
cannot know right now. But what we do know is
that the wrong embryo was transferred into the wrong woman
and that's a huge mistake. The one that happen in Melbourne,
just shy of two months later, is that a same
sex couple, the woman that was getting implanted was meant
to be implanted with her partner's embryo, but instead they've
(07:20):
implanted her with her own. It is still a monumental mistake,
and it's human life. That's happened twice in two months
by human error.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I think that when we hear these stories a merely
a people go how could this possibly happen? How are
they're not more checks and balances going on in these companies?
Can you clarify a little bit for us? How is
the IVF industry currently regulated? I know that each individual
company would have their own protocols and practices, but broadly,
is there much implac here? No?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And I mean that's a huge issue that we identified
very early on when we were doing the podcast, was
this absolute fundamental need for a federal governing body. Currently,
fertility it sits on a state by state basis under healthcare.
The states aren't speaking to each other. There's thirty different
pieces of legation, none of them were really inforced. It's
(08:12):
patchwork at best, and there's a lack of repercussions for
these companies when these mistakes happen. They're not being really
held to any account apart from their share price tumbling.
You know, this is human life, and nobody really has
ever stopped to say, hey, who's looking after this and
who's actually going to put into place measures so that
(08:33):
huge mistakes cannot happen.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And that's echoed by the Fertility Society of Australia. They've
also called for a nationally consistent framework. If something like
that were to be introduced, what would it mean.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Particularly for don't conceived children who have a huge issue
with the fact that they don't have access to their
identifying information medical records fifty percent of their DNA I mean,
I can understand the use of anonymous sperm was hugely
used in the eighties and nineties, and it was used
helping couples have biological children. When the mail was sterile,
they thought no one would ever find out. I respect
(09:06):
that at the time. Everybody signed the agreement knowing what
was happening, but what they didn't see coming was DNA testing,
and that's what's really lifting the lid on sperm downers
and the use of anonymity. Second to that same work
would look like streamlining all of the clinics to all
have the same checks and balances, you know, introducing legislation
if things go wrong. Because Monash is a publicly listed company,
(09:28):
it had to report mishaps and misdemeanors and incidents, whereas
private companies don't because they're not really answering to anybody,
so therefore they can pay compensations sign NDAs and we
just don't know about it. So the fact that two
and two months have happened in a public li listic
company is pretty indicative that mistakes have happened in the past,
but probably being dealt with privately.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
We're also saying now that advocates calling for families to
get DNA tests done if they've conceived or used the
services of IVF. We've spoken to people here at Mamma
Mia who are currently going through that process and weighing
up whether or not to do DNA testing to confirm
that their children are biologically There's that mus be another
(10:10):
layer to what is already a really complex pathway to
parenthood and to growing your family that you probably didn't
consider when you initially signed up to use an IVF service.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
The prevalence of DNA testing is something nobody saw coming,
certainly not at the precedence it exploded. You know, for
fifty dollars, you can spit in a tube of Christmas
and sometimes you're finding out Dad's not Dad. Other times
you're finding out huge family secrets. That's just one part
of it. I can understand and completely sympathize with the
anxiety when somebody has spent not just the financial money,
(10:43):
but the emotional toll IVF takes from people. It's often
the last resort from an already very tumultuous, rocky and
painstaking road to then have a seat of doubt be
planted that hey, oh my god, maybe my child is
at my child. I can totally respect that need and
the availability of DNA testing to just run out and
say I just want reassurance, and everybody should probably be
(11:05):
offered that. But if you look at it, one hundred
thousand babies per year are IVF. These two things are
a complete tragedy and obvious huge mistakes. But I don't
think it's happened in tens of thousands or that you know,
there's a need to panic necessarily that I can also
sympathize with a hey I need to know, and that's
completely justified.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
So anyone who's currently going through IVF, what sort of
questions would you suggest that they bring to their clinic.
I mean, it must be quite terrifying to see these
stories flying around the news media. What would you suggest
they do if they're still going through the process and
are worried.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I spoke to someone this morning who suggested that there
should be two embryoologists on stuff. I think we largely
depend on software and these computers and robots and all
of this to do things for us. But both of
these times Monash have said it was human error, you know,
and humans do make mistakes, that's just who we are.
So is there a need to maybe have two people
(12:03):
checking it again? I think that'll come out of the
Federal hopefully inquiry of the conversations. What checks and balances
are place if you were going into the clinic to
ensure this isn't going to happen? And I can only
imagine these clinics have been in a day that their
phones would be bringing all day. What checks and balances
did you put into place retrospectively or going forward? How
do I know my embryos are safe? And that is
a valid question and one that I think even the
(12:25):
clinics will very much understand. But you're not physically ever there,
So you are really putting your faith in a system
and in a clinic, and the outcome is phenomenal. IVF
is the greatest invention we've ever had. But I mean,
you'll never be able to control it, so you just
need to. I guess decide whether you're comfortable trusting the system,
trusting your doctor, trusting the clinic that you're using. But
(12:45):
certainly I'd just be asking as many questions as I
could and just trying to ensure that all the checks
and balances are in place at the specific clinic that
you go through.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Okay, so quickie, friends, I need to share. Recently I
stepped off a plane returning from a glorious, warm, tropical
holiday in Indonesia. What I arrived back to can only
be described as an icy shock to the system. And
while I thought, what fresh hell is this? I've also
(13:17):
been thinking how on earth am I supposed to survive
this winter season. I've been thinking about is my housewarm enough?
Is it wrong to wear two pairs of socks to work?
Will my coworkers judged me? But of course, before I
spiraled anymore, I've been doing my research, obviously, starting with TikTok,
a viral video from a Canadian living in Victoria has
(13:40):
confirmed what many of us have long suspected Australian homes well,
they're exceptionally cold.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
The most master up part about living in Australia is
that people genuinely say to me, oh, you're a Canadian,
so you shouldn't be able to feel the cold, when
I can confidently tell you that the callus that I
have ever been is living in a Melbourne sharehouse in
the middle of July and lying in my own bed
trying to fall asleep, being able to see my own
breath well, only being able to warm myself with a
tiny space heater and an electric blanket. Like, I don't
(14:08):
know why Australia was like, let's not inflate our houses.
Let's all just put on a CapMan do jacket and
call it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
A day now. Of course, I back this up with
some confirmed data. According to the World Health Organization, eighty
one percent of Australian homes don't make the minimum standard
for not cult which is eighteen degrees inside. In Tasmania,
houses average just eleven degrees during winter, while in Victoria
(14:36):
more than a quarter of homes don't get above fourteen.
This isn't just about comfort, experts say these low temperatures
have significant implications for both physical and mental health. But
there's a new trend helping people combat the winter blues.
It's called cozymaxing. As the name suggests, The practice involves
creating the ultimate cozy environment to decompress and reach out.
(15:01):
It starts with the basics a warm shower, fresh sheets,
comfortable pajamas, and fluffy socks. Adds soft lighting from lamps
AK eight, no harsh overhead lights, flickering candles, and a
warm drink within reach. The key is to create a
(15:23):
sanctuary where you can properly slow down and re energize.
Psychologists say it's not just about comfort, it's about self soothing.
In a world of constant stimulation, when we're stressed at
work or overwhelmed with life's demands, a soothing, cozy environment
can help us feel better. Just remember to use it
(15:43):
in moderation. There's a difference between taking time to reset
and avoiding important responsibilities. The goal is to recharge, not retreat.
So I guess there goes my plans of double bagging
my feet and hiding under the bed covers till the
very last moment before work starts. Nevertheless, maybe cozy maxing
(16:05):
is the way through the upcoming wintery season. Thanks for
taking some time to feed your mind with us today.
The Quikie is produced by me Taylor Strano and Clare Murphy.
With audio production by Lou Hill. MoMA Mea Studios are
styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton. Visit Fenton and
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