March 2, 2025 • 29 mins
Drowning in family scheduling chaos? Finally—a solution that lightens the mental load of family management is only a click away!
Gether uses AI to transform your scattered reminders into one streamlined calendar. This clever app automatically organises everything, sends timely alerts, and allows sharing with partners and caregivers.
Gether co-founder Claire Waring is the award-winning is a passionate advocate for women and was quite frankly sick of all the to do lists - so she developed this innovative app for women like you.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on Hello, and welcome to this glorious mess.
We're embracing the chaos together. We're ditching the judgment. I'm
(00:32):
Annale's todch you are. I am a detester of all
things life admin, school and sport, WhatsApp, groups, emails and
any and all of the other. Oh and I am
teaking a totly mom of three, and I'm an overlooker
of emails, texts and all forms of communication in regards
to life admin, appointments, reminders.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And a bit of a forgetter. Oh, we're just Teagan.
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
After today and this episode, you will be a changed woman.
I'm really looking forward to this. We're going to bring
you into the twenty twenty five Yeah, and we're going
to make your life easier because we talk about mental load,
lots stories mess.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We don't need to go there.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Lots of us are leaning into using AI work, but
how the hell do you use.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It at home?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That is literally what we're going to uncover, deep dive
and unpacked today and we're going to change your life
and mostly tagans. So we're going to say you burn out.
We're going to learn how we can outsource to the
robots to make life easier. That's right. And joining us
today is a remarkable woman who is revolutionizing how we
manage the juggle of work and family life. I'm so excited.
(01:48):
Claire Wearing is a mum and co founder of Gether,
an AI powered productivity app, and she'll be telling us
how AI can lighten our family juggle and struggle. I
am here for this, that's all I have to say.
Same because I just want to stop complaining about it
and just make things easier. And I just want to
(02:12):
not have to keep writing in my notebook and give
my paper calendar that's in the paratry. Yes, well we're
going to change that for you.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But like for.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Five family members, I fill out this calendar and too
many children filling out the calendar is an annoying part
of my mental handwriting God for five people. Well, we're
going to rescue you, Teagan, and we're going to make
your life and everyone's life is easier after the end
of today. But first, here's what's happening in my group chat.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So Tig's. Recently, on Muma MIA's podcast Diary.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Of a Birth, we had an episode on surrogacy, which
I'm fascinated. I am too. I love We've had a
few guests on this glorious mess who have been a surrogate.
It's one of the most phenomenal things that I think
you can do. I think it's just an extraordinary thing
for everyone involved in surrogacy, like it would be such
(03:08):
a journey. I love hearing peoples stories. Anyway, I taking
I'm getting way too deep about this. Tell me what
your group chat.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, here's a little bit of the episode for you.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
We just had our failed journey for a sibling, and
so I went to one of the in person catch
ups through the Facebook community and we sat and we
chatted and drank margaritas all night, and I guess the
rest is history. We saw each other a lot after
that and caught up, and then she took me out
for coffee one day and I really fell off my
(03:38):
chair when she said, I want to be your surrogate.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So, Tigs, this is the thing.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I think that being a surrogate to a friend or
a sister or someone to help them out is the
most selfless thing in the universe. Yes, but this person
they met on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Are you? Are you across the historical historian rules of
surrogacy in Australia, Let me recap for yes, I am.
For those playing at home, they're insane. So in Australia
it has to be an altruistic act. That means sarrogate
has their expenses covered but can have no other payment
provided or personal profit made. So they are literally doing
(04:18):
this out of the goodness of their heart. Yes, they
can't be paid a financial sum. However, they can accept gifts,
which is a lovely loophole. Well, okay, that is a
loophole because you know, in America it's completely different and
that's why correct sarrogacy is so much more common there,
and you can absolutely get paid. And then I don't
(04:40):
know if you saw the backlash that Lily Collins received recently.
So she shared an Instagram post a picture of her
new daughter Tove in a little basket and then the
Emily in Paris actor expressed with a caption endless gratitude
for our incredible surrogate, and she received a lot of backlash.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Why, well, people are.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Really divided on this because some people feel that sarrogacy
is okay if you struggle with infertility, but if you're
choosing it, you know for your career, oh be because
pregnancy is hard that I'll tell you what this reminds
me of. If you're choosing to have a cesarean, like
you're too posh to push? Like how is it anyone's
(05:23):
business what anyone chooses to do. I totally agree, and
it is quite common like in Hollywood, Sarah, Jessica Parker,
Nicole Kidman, Paris Hilton, Chloe, and Kim Kardashian have all
reportedly used surrogates. But people don't share their reasons. Yes,
but people don't share their reasons behind it, which I
don't think they have to. No, this is what I'm saying, Like, oh,
(05:43):
but but will allow it if you're struggling with infertility,
It's like says who.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I think God, if you can afford to pay someone,
I would have totally done that. I hated being pregnant.
I've got no issue with it. I just it wasn't
really an option. No one put their hand up, so
I suffered twice for eighteen months combined. One thing though,
and this is one issue which is a great area
in place like the US, when they are being paid,
(06:13):
it's looking at like what are the moral floitation? Yeah,
ethical dilemmas of people that are struggling for money and
doing something. But it's just it does get a bit
ikey in that realm. I totally totally agree with you there.
And do you know what else I think is the
worst thing about our Australian laws is that the child
that is born is on the birth certificate. It's the
(06:36):
surrogates that are on the birth certificate. So even if
they are literally just their Airbnb for the baby and
it's not their embryo, it's not their egg, it's you know,
and if they change their mind then it gets really
then correct. And for surrogates that I know in both
cases it's taken up to twelve months for the child
(07:00):
to legally be in the parent's name.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wow, it's a minefield.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Anyway, lots of interesting fodder.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
For the group chat that really went on attentionent didn't
that we do like that though, But now Tigs, I
think we should dive into some AI and bringing teag
natolely into twenty twenty five. I'm excited for this. So
tig's currently in your life? Do you use AI in
your personal life? Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So that work? Oh in your other areas of your life?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
No? No, like, where where would I do it? What
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So the other day I asked Perplexity, which is the
Google of Google.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yep, I love Perplexity.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I asked it to tell me the best bank for
an interest term deposit what and it pulled up all
of the different rates and then told me which were
the best. Shut up, No, this is the thing, like
you can do things so you don't have to google that.
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I didn't have to.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Look through ten different websites. I just used Perplexity and
it gave me all of the information and it doesn't
fit and it ranked it whoa whoa?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Will we right?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No? Okay, okay, once I've used it, I don't know
actually how I even got it on my computer. But
I got a program called Grammarly, which I think is
an AI program, and I stumbled upon how I and
I used it for work. But it was like write
an email proposal in this tone, and it really blew
(08:30):
my lead off. Okay, it was amazing. So here's another
like two hours of work in twenty seconds. Yes, this
is the whole reason. It's saving time. So I used
it this week to I use chat GBT to write
my kids teacher an email to remove tone and to
remove tone, yes, why because I wanted to. I need
(08:51):
it to be impartial, because I'm not a Karen and
I want to be a peaceful person. And I said,
create an email with this information and set an agenda
and create an email removing any emotion or time. Yes,
and it I need to do that, and it did it.
I need to do that because I always get in
trouble at work using too many exclamation books. So I'd
(09:13):
be like, Hi, I hope you're well, just wondering when
this delivery will be arriving, Like you're sounding chirvy, but
it could be read as yelly right as the divery going.
So I reached out to the Muma Meir Facebook community
and I confessed my CHATCHBT teacher email and I said,
(09:34):
what else, guys, what else are you using this for
in your personal life? And my favorite was someone responded,
can I tell you as a teacher, I also use
AI to make my emails to parents less emotional. Oh perfect,
So she's doing the same world take out tone, but
also teaming with the theme of today. We grabbed some
(09:55):
of your Facebook responses and we put them into an
AI voice program to stop read out some of the answers,
and this is what you told us that you use
AI for in your personal life, as read out by robot.
Oh my lord.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I send links to clothes I'm thinking of buying, tell
it my color palette and ask whether the item will
suit my coloring. It gives great advice and also tells
me what colors to wear with it. I have used
AI to come up with easy and cost effective dog
enrichment activities to keep my naughty dog entertained.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Math equations. I can't remember how to work out.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
When my twelve year old and I can't think of
the name of a song or quite remember how it goes.
We give chat GPT as much detail about the song
as possible. Ninety percent of the time it points us
in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Planning itineraries for holidays.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Meal planning recipes, and a shopping list to stick to
a budget. This is just mind blowing, Like I am
doing the hardest way of life. The paper caliber coming
up next after this short break tag in natotally be
prepared to blow your mind because we are chatting to
(11:08):
expert Claire Wearing about how to hack AI to be
a personal PA.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And yes that's a thing.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
A family PA. This is heaven.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I know that's coming up next.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Claire Wearing is co founder of Gether, an AI powered
productivity app which is specifically designed to help manage the
mental load of parenting and family life. Oh my gosh,
say no more. But what makes her perspective truly valuable?
She's also a mum of two who understands firsthand the
(11:45):
daily circus of balancing career ambitions with family life. She's
not just talking about solutions, she's living them. Welcome to
this glorious meth, Claire. Now we know the mental load
disproportionately affects women, mum and mere. Audiences have shared with
us that eighty six percent of them are the default parent.
(12:05):
That I don't think is a shocking or alarming stat anyone.
What other stats can you share with us, Clare, that
you've stumbled upon in your work that you can let
us know about.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Before we got into together, we ran a whole survey.
We had this overwhelming number of responses to this organic
survey that we put out just to see if anybody
would be interested. About eighty five percent of respondents, mostly women,
say that they wanted digital tools to help them manage
the mental load. That really spurred us on. I guess
some of the other ones that we have are they're
(12:40):
typically spending between six and ten hours a week on
mental load, and our recent reviews have also shown that
there's six to ten hours and that's just on the thinking, planning, organizing.
That's not executing anything.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That is just the planning and running of the emails,
the WhatsApp groups, the thing the sports appointments, the appointment.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Medical appointments, meal planning, all of those things that all,
it all adds up a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Of time in your week.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I reckon, I've been thinking about how I need to
book my kids in for the dentist for about six
months now. I've been thinking about it. I'm like, oh,
I got to book that appointment, you know.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
And the problem with that is that it builds up
in women's minds. All of these things that are in
the back of your mind actually detract from your ability
to really focus in and give your all to certain things,
so that mental load accumulates over time and it becomes
overwhelming because women are effectively doing a double job. They're
leading double lives. They've got a day job, which they
(13:39):
do and do it incredibly well, but then they've actually
got another full time job at home just in managing family.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And then for me, I find that when there's so
many things swimming around in my head, everything feels too hard,
so therefore I accomplish nothing.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Like it's just.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Absolutely why did you creategether?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
What inspired you to actually do it? You know, there's
a difference between having an idea that you know, lots
of us think, oh how good would it be if
we had something that did this or did this, but
you know you actually did it. Yeah, look across the
line for you.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Apart from dropping the ball all the time as apparent
what cross like? Look, I think for me, I always
thought that mental load was just me, that it was
just that I couldn't get on top of all of
these things. And look, we didn't even have a term
for it until twenty seventeen, which also blows my mind.
We just didn't even know what it was. But I
think the thing that really made me cross over that
line is that I started looking for tools when I
(14:36):
was going into a really big role in advertising executive
creative director. I knew it was going to be really
full on, and I started looking for digital tools that
were going to help me manage that load, and there
was nothing. And I was outrage because I have a
background in digital and technology, and so I know that
technology can help do this. It's not a problem of
that technology isn't capable, it's just that nobody was actually
(14:59):
solving that problem. And when I read into that further,
I got further in rage because the reason it's not
being solved is that it's not a problem for men.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It's just not something that is our but in their world.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
And so if you think about all of the startups
in Silicon Valley and the technology that comes out, they're
not people who are dealing with mental load on a
daily basis. And so I had this moment with my
sister actually, who's my co founder, where we and she's
got a background in technology as well, we thought, well,
we're going to do it ourselves. If nobody else is
going to build it, we're going to jump in and
(15:31):
we're going to give it a go. And build it ourselves.
And so that's exactly what we've been doing.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Good on you, So pretend that Teag and I are
five years old? Can you explain what the app is
and how it works?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Absolutely we did with lots of five year olds on there.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
There you go absolutely well, look.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Together as a family assistant that takes care of the
kid admin. It's an AI powered app that sorts auto
schedules and sands daily SMS reminders to free parents from
mental loads. So it's really designed to basically be like
a personal assistant that you would have at work. So
I've been lucky enough in my career that I've had
personal assistance and I've had it exposure to lots of
(16:08):
technology and tools. So this was also modeled on some
of the experiences I've had where a great personal assistant
will say, here's what you've got on tomorrow. There's this
and this, and we have to make sure that this
goes out and there are these two other things, and
it just frees you up so that you can focus
on other stuff. You can do a great job in
other eras.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And I like to be creue, but this is like
mum Pawn like it is literally like I'm sitting here like,
oh my gosh. But the other thing is and I
was reading that you can like send pd it so
because obviously there's the mental load of adding tasks into it,
like we've all got a calendar, yeah, and we've all
got like I've got reminder lists because I cannot remember anything.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But how does it work?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Like you magically can just send party invitations and it
sure can decodes it and creates it into.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
An So let's take that party invitation exam example, if
I had a party invitation for my son, I would
just forward it on together. It might be from WhatsApp,
or it might be from email. I just forward that
on to my family email address at gather. And what
the AI does is it extracts all the information out
of that image, so the date, the time, the place,
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which will be linked to Google Maps so you can
navigate your way to it. It will put an RSVP
reminder into your reminders as well, and it will also
remind you to buy a birthday present, because we all
know that you can't show up without a birthday present.
But a little about YouTube, But once or twice it's
been a close moment where we've forgotten.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
A birthday Amazon Amazon same day delivery, thank god cash
is king in my case, and a handmade cars.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
You can send a PDF, you can send an image,
you can send a document. You can send a school newsletter,
which is my favorite because I always miss that thing
about swimming on page fifteen of the school newsletter. A newsletter,
it will pick out all of those events and it
will put it into your calendar, the relevant ones for
your family, for your.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Children, because I actually missed meet the teacher because I
did read the newsletter, but as a non robot missed
that in the fine right and I didn't meet the teaching.
Make them work harder for you, make the ais work
harder for you. This is just I'm spinning. So is
this so two people can be admins? Obviously because we
(18:20):
don't st the default parent. Yeah, so two people can
import and so this could work in like also co
parenting situations when there's custody sharing.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Absolutely. Look, the way that gether is set up is
that you can have parents and caregivers. So you can
have two parents or you can have three parents on
there if you like, and they have access to view
and edit and change everything. That is within together, and
then we also have cares, so that might be a
grandparent or a nanny or an O pair who has
they can add things in, but they can't get in
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and mess around with your account or delete the other
things that you have in there. So we really position
together as something that is there to lift but also
to share the mental load. And for us, what you
need to be able to do that is one central platform,
one central place where everything exists. So going back to
that day party invitation, Let's say my husband was going
to take my son to the party. He has everything
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he needs in gether to be able.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
To get there.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
He has he does not have to call me.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Oh that's another thing, isn't it Because even if it's
in the parent yeah, yeah exactly, even if it's in
the calendar, you still then have to relay all the
associated information yourself.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Exactly exactly, and even worry about whether the person has
the information or not. I think that's something as mums
that we need to be able to hand things off,
but we also need a little bit of reassurance that
that person has it under control and they have what
they need, so that a we don't get the phone
calls but b we're not thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's such a good point. Earlier in the show, we
were talking about I use chat GBT to write to
my son's teacher an email to remove emotion and tone,
and we went through some of the Mum and Mere
family community and what they're using it for. And I'm
just fascinated, like, what else are we using a I
four in our lives? You look?
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Sometimes I use it for meal planning, so I will
ask chat JPT, you know, come up with a meal list.
We like this, this and this or this is in season,
and it will come back and give.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Me Megan's jaws on the floor.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, because I am doing just trodging through life. Like
what I'm just doing, I'm taking the hardest road.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
The wrong We're going to be a change woman after today.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Already, this is unbelievable. That's genius.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And what else?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
What else? Share it with us your AI hat?
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Look, I think like you, I use it for drafting things.
I think the thing to remember about AI is it's
never going to be the perfect end email that you
want to send or meal plan or recipe, but it
just is a springboard to get you much further along,
you know, when you look at a blank page or
you're like, you're just stuck in that what are we
going to have this week? For It just helps get
(21:05):
you a little maybe fifty or sixty percent of the
way there, and then you're like, oh, we won't have that,
we could have this, and then you're off.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And someone else in the muma mea Facebook community said
that they use it to plan travel itineraries like I
just feel I know your face taking and Tolly's Jori
is also on the floor for the second time today.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
There's just so much.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I might get my pen and paper out and my notebook, na,
and I've got my notebook of pages and pages, which
actually gives me more anxiety, Like I have my notebook
to be organized, but it actually gives me more anxiety
because I've just got pages of like information all over
the place in no system. You need to get in
twenty twenty five, Girlfriends, Dear am.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
I searching is going to help you with that. I'm
with you. I'm not a super organized contrary to belief,
because we're in Getheredgether was created because I would.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Like, you're organized, but.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Because I had these moments of hot mess right, I
forget things for my kids. I once forgot my child's
high school interview and got a phone call from the
assistant principal to say was I joining the cour which
I quite of course I am. I'm there, I'm right there,
We're on zoom. It's amazing, it's all going to be amazing.
But I could because I realized that I wasn't the
only one and that everybody could do with some help
(22:19):
in this. And so AI is able to go and
find things for you and pull them back. So if
you've got notes everywhere, searching that is powered by AS
also a really great way of sorting through those things.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So in terms of privacy and security, because if we're
handing over a lot of information to the robots, like
the location of our children and all of those sorts
of things, what sort of security measures are in place?
And should we be careful with certain apps and certain
websites and imparting personal information.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
You absolutely should. So there's a feature across chutch apt
and a lot of the other AIS where you can
declare that you want your data to remain private and
you don't want AIS trained on your data. And so
that's something that we have in place for all of
everything that goes through together. There is no AI that's
being trained on it. It stays private in our system.
It doesn't get farmed out. But that's something that i'd
(23:11):
encourage everybody to have a look at. If you're putting
things into GPT, great, but make sure you've got the
privacy settings in there so that it's not going off
beyond the conversation that you're having right there and there.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think we're going to put a link to instructions
in the show notes, which I will then follow.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Yeah, just be aware of the privacy. And then there's
a number of different ones as well. PERPLEXITYI is great.
We use that so much for research and other things.
It really is brilliant.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I really see. I don't even know where to get
the AI from fatigue. Even as you mentioned before, you
can have a couple of different parents or admins or whatnot.
But like for someone like me, which my husband would
usually say, you know what's on the sav or what
times soccer, I'm like the same time it is every
single week. But this will notify him absolutely.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
He will get a text message the night before to say,
here's what's coming up tomorrow soccer. Let's just say you
have a dance class, or you know something else is
going on at school if it's crazy. Sock Day is
one of the ones we love to pick up because
we'll forget.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
About Harmony Day. Harmony Day.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Never wear orange or purple.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's twenty first of March.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
People just a head to Harmony Day at sports all
of those things, so many photo.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And it's always the colors.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You never have any right, green and orange.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Purple as well. I mean, as a mum of boys,
purple is.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I've got purple things I can send them in. Just
logging on now to sign on up. And so everyone
is on a different stage of the journey. Teagan's just
starting to come to twenty twenty five. I'm pretty good
with a twenty twenty five. Yeah, because you've literally just
used paper. Oh yeah, well look I've got to get
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into the World Wide Web. So you're at the very
beginning of your journey. I do use AI quite a
lot in my personal life. Some people are obviously very
savvy what's coming up next? Like where do you think
we'll be in six twelve months time at the stage
of AI and how it's going to integrated in our lives.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Look I think you hit the nail on the head
when you said integrated. It's being integrated into everything. So
even now you'll notice when you do a Google search,
there's actually AI in the background that's giving you an
answer rather than just giving you a series of links,
which is what would have happened previously.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You're going to.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
See all of the existing tools that you have start
to get an uplift thanks to AI, as well as
some other AI things started to come in, like AI agents.
So AI agents are starting to come in as whole
employees that are replacing people for some of the more
basic tasks that might be carried out. That's something that
we're going to see a lot more of in the
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next six to twelve months as well. But so that
permeating the things that you already use. And also they're
starting to deal with AI agents as opposed to people.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
All the time.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
We've already seen that with chatbots a little bit, but
this is on another level.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
My husband's not going into the pantry looking at my
handwritten paper calendar. He doesn't. He doesn't. It's more for myself.
This app like you know, when it's almost like it
it makes him be able to see account. It is no, no, no, no,
but like to actually see the stuff that women or
mums and some dads are dealing with in terms of
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mental load, because it's like it's called mental load because
it's often in your brain. You know, it doesn't it
doesn't get out of there a lot. But when it's
you know, calendarized and shared, you're like, man, this is
what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
That it's visible, right, And that's the thing about invisible
load and mental loads. Making it visible for lots of
families is the first step. But yet a lot of
dads who are like.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Oh wow, I hadn't realized. Yes, that's what I was
trying to get at.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Relinquished control. Let go as queen else.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Give it to the bots. Well, thank you so much
for coming in and sharing your wisdom, and Teagan, I'm
a new woman. I am also evolved after this conversation
and I'm going to be using so much more and yeah,
making life easy.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So thank you so.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Much for sure. So tigs, wow, you have learnt. You've
come on a big journey today. This is just mind blowing.
Faper Kelly very excited. Yes, yeah, yes, what are the
main things that you're going to incorporate into your daily life. Well,
(27:27):
I love the idea with this app, specifically that you
can just email on PDFs. And the school newsletter is
really what got it over the line. Oh, the school newsletter.
I'll tell you what. This is my first year with
three kids in three separate classes because the twins have
been in the same class for the last two years.
So even the birthday invites like do you know what
I mean, like WhatsApp groups, then everyone creates a new
(27:51):
WhatsApp group for every yes, exactly. So, like I think
the fact that I can just go forward and then
it's in there amazing because like we said, it's the
thinking and the pudding in the calendar that is just
an additional mental load, correct activity.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Right, correct?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I think I'd like to also lean on more to
take out my terrible ballache of life, which is the
mental load of thinking about food and shopping lists. Like
I think I'm going to experiment with a bit more
of doing those kind of tasks in my world. Well,
thank you so much for listening to this glorious mess.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
We hope that, like.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Teaking it to Tollely, we have changed your life in
some way and that we can all just lean into
the robots a little bit more to make life easier,
because that's what we want. More free time, more Netflix
on the couch time. Yes, we definitely do and share
with us. So what do you yes AI for? We
love hearing your hacks because usually they're much better than
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our and much more advance we learn from you. You're
all actually just helping us, yes better literally, so please
keep sharing on the Muma Mere Family Facebook page and
Mumma mea Family Instagram or leave us a message. All
of the details are in the show notes. This episode
was produced by a Tomline with audio production by Jacob Brown.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Bye,
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on Hello, and welcome to this glorious mess.
We're embracing the chaos together. We're ditching the judgment. I'm
(00:32):
Annale's todch you are. I am a detester of all
things life admin, school and sport, WhatsApp, groups, emails and
any and all of the other. Oh and I am
teaking a totly mom of three, and I'm an overlooker
of emails, texts and all forms of communication in regards
to life admin, appointments, reminders.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And a bit of a forgetter. Oh, we're just Teagan.
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
After today and this episode, you will be a changed woman.
I'm really looking forward to this. We're going to bring
you into the twenty twenty five Yeah, and we're going
to make your life easier because we talk about mental load,
lots stories mess.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We don't need to go there.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Lots of us are leaning into using AI work, but
how the hell do you use.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It at home?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That is literally what we're going to uncover, deep dive
and unpacked today and we're going to change your life
and mostly tagans. So we're going to say you burn out.
We're going to learn how we can outsource to the
robots to make life easier. That's right. And joining us
today is a remarkable woman who is revolutionizing how we
manage the juggle of work and family life. I'm so excited.
(01:48):
Claire Wearing is a mum and co founder of Gether,
an AI powered productivity app, and she'll be telling us
how AI can lighten our family juggle and struggle. I
am here for this, that's all I have to say.
Same because I just want to stop complaining about it
and just make things easier. And I just want to
(02:12):
not have to keep writing in my notebook and give
my paper calendar that's in the paratry. Yes, well we're
going to change that for you.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But like for.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Five family members, I fill out this calendar and too
many children filling out the calendar is an annoying part
of my mental handwriting God for five people. Well, we're
going to rescue you, Teagan, and we're going to make
your life and everyone's life is easier after the end
of today. But first, here's what's happening in my group chat.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So Tig's. Recently, on Muma MIA's podcast Diary.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Of a Birth, we had an episode on surrogacy, which
I'm fascinated. I am too. I love We've had a
few guests on this glorious mess who have been a surrogate.
It's one of the most phenomenal things that I think
you can do. I think it's just an extraordinary thing
for everyone involved in surrogacy, like it would be such
(03:08):
a journey. I love hearing peoples stories. Anyway, I taking
I'm getting way too deep about this. Tell me what
your group chat.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, here's a little bit of the episode for you.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
We just had our failed journey for a sibling, and
so I went to one of the in person catch
ups through the Facebook community and we sat and we
chatted and drank margaritas all night, and I guess the
rest is history. We saw each other a lot after
that and caught up, and then she took me out
for coffee one day and I really fell off my
(03:38):
chair when she said, I want to be your surrogate.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So, Tigs, this is the thing.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I think that being a surrogate to a friend or
a sister or someone to help them out is the
most selfless thing in the universe. Yes, but this person
they met on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Are you? Are you across the historical historian rules of
surrogacy in Australia, Let me recap for yes, I am.
For those playing at home, they're insane. So in Australia
it has to be an altruistic act. That means sarrogate
has their expenses covered but can have no other payment
provided or personal profit made. So they are literally doing
(04:18):
this out of the goodness of their heart. Yes, they
can't be paid a financial sum. However, they can accept gifts,
which is a lovely loophole. Well, okay, that is a
loophole because you know, in America it's completely different and
that's why correct sarrogacy is so much more common there,
and you can absolutely get paid. And then I don't
(04:40):
know if you saw the backlash that Lily Collins received recently.
So she shared an Instagram post a picture of her
new daughter Tove in a little basket and then the
Emily in Paris actor expressed with a caption endless gratitude
for our incredible surrogate, and she received a lot of backlash.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Why, well, people are.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Really divided on this because some people feel that sarrogacy
is okay if you struggle with infertility, but if you're
choosing it, you know for your career, oh be because
pregnancy is hard that I'll tell you what this reminds
me of. If you're choosing to have a cesarean, like
you're too posh to push? Like how is it anyone's
(05:23):
business what anyone chooses to do. I totally agree, and
it is quite common like in Hollywood, Sarah, Jessica Parker,
Nicole Kidman, Paris Hilton, Chloe, and Kim Kardashian have all
reportedly used surrogates. But people don't share their reasons. Yes,
but people don't share their reasons behind it, which I
don't think they have to. No, this is what I'm saying, Like, oh,
(05:43):
but but will allow it if you're struggling with infertility,
It's like says who.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I think God, if you can afford to pay someone,
I would have totally done that. I hated being pregnant.
I've got no issue with it. I just it wasn't
really an option. No one put their hand up, so
I suffered twice for eighteen months combined. One thing though,
and this is one issue which is a great area
in place like the US, when they are being paid,
(06:13):
it's looking at like what are the moral floitation? Yeah,
ethical dilemmas of people that are struggling for money and
doing something. But it's just it does get a bit
ikey in that realm. I totally totally agree with you there.
And do you know what else I think is the
worst thing about our Australian laws is that the child
that is born is on the birth certificate. It's the
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surrogates that are on the birth certificate. So even if
they are literally just their Airbnb for the baby and
it's not their embryo, it's not their egg, it's you know,
and if they change their mind then it gets really
then correct. And for surrogates that I know in both
cases it's taken up to twelve months for the child
(07:00):
to legally be in the parent's name.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wow, it's a minefield.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Anyway, lots of interesting fodder.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
For the group chat that really went on attentionent didn't
that we do like that though, But now Tigs, I
think we should dive into some AI and bringing teag
natolely into twenty twenty five. I'm excited for this. So
tig's currently in your life? Do you use AI in
your personal life? Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So that work? Oh in your other areas of your life?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
No? No, like, where where would I do it? What
do you mean?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So the other day I asked Perplexity, which is the
Google of Google.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yep, I love Perplexity.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I asked it to tell me the best bank for
an interest term deposit what and it pulled up all
of the different rates and then told me which were
the best. Shut up, No, this is the thing, like
you can do things so you don't have to google that.
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I didn't have to.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Look through ten different websites. I just used Perplexity and
it gave me all of the information and it doesn't
fit and it ranked it whoa whoa?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Will we right?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No? Okay, okay, once I've used it, I don't know
actually how I even got it on my computer. But
I got a program called Grammarly, which I think is
an AI program, and I stumbled upon how I and
I used it for work. But it was like write
an email proposal in this tone, and it really blew
(08:30):
my lead off. Okay, it was amazing. So here's another
like two hours of work in twenty seconds. Yes, this
is the whole reason. It's saving time. So I used
it this week to I use chat GBT to write
my kids teacher an email to remove tone and to
remove tone, yes, why because I wanted to. I need
(08:51):
it to be impartial, because I'm not a Karen and
I want to be a peaceful person. And I said,
create an email with this information and set an agenda
and create an email removing any emotion or time. Yes,
and it I need to do that, and it did it.
I need to do that because I always get in
trouble at work using too many exclamation books. So I'd
(09:13):
be like, Hi, I hope you're well, just wondering when
this delivery will be arriving, Like you're sounding chirvy, but
it could be read as yelly right as the divery going.
So I reached out to the Muma Meir Facebook community
and I confessed my CHATCHBT teacher email and I said,
(09:34):
what else, guys, what else are you using this for
in your personal life? And my favorite was someone responded,
can I tell you as a teacher, I also use
AI to make my emails to parents less emotional. Oh perfect,
So she's doing the same world take out tone, but
also teaming with the theme of today. We grabbed some
(09:55):
of your Facebook responses and we put them into an
AI voice program to stop read out some of the answers,
and this is what you told us that you use
AI for in your personal life, as read out by robot.
Oh my lord.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I send links to clothes I'm thinking of buying, tell
it my color palette and ask whether the item will
suit my coloring. It gives great advice and also tells
me what colors to wear with it. I have used
AI to come up with easy and cost effective dog
enrichment activities to keep my naughty dog entertained.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Math equations. I can't remember how to work out.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
When my twelve year old and I can't think of
the name of a song or quite remember how it goes.
We give chat GPT as much detail about the song
as possible. Ninety percent of the time it points us
in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Planning itineraries for holidays.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Meal planning recipes, and a shopping list to stick to
a budget. This is just mind blowing, Like I am
doing the hardest way of life. The paper caliber coming
up next after this short break tag in natotally be
prepared to blow your mind because we are chatting to
(11:08):
expert Claire Wearing about how to hack AI to be
a personal PA.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And yes that's a thing.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
A family PA. This is heaven.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I know that's coming up next.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Claire Wearing is co founder of Gether, an AI powered
productivity app which is specifically designed to help manage the
mental load of parenting and family life. Oh my gosh,
say no more. But what makes her perspective truly valuable?
She's also a mum of two who understands firsthand the
(11:45):
daily circus of balancing career ambitions with family life. She's
not just talking about solutions, she's living them. Welcome to
this glorious meth, Claire. Now we know the mental load
disproportionately affects women, mum and mere. Audiences have shared with
us that eighty six percent of them are the default parent.
(12:05):
That I don't think is a shocking or alarming stat anyone.
What other stats can you share with us, Clare, that
you've stumbled upon in your work that you can let
us know about.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Before we got into together, we ran a whole survey.
We had this overwhelming number of responses to this organic
survey that we put out just to see if anybody
would be interested. About eighty five percent of respondents, mostly women,
say that they wanted digital tools to help them manage
the mental load. That really spurred us on. I guess
some of the other ones that we have are they're
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typically spending between six and ten hours a week on
mental load, and our recent reviews have also shown that
there's six to ten hours and that's just on the thinking, planning, organizing.
That's not executing anything.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That is just the planning and running of the emails,
the WhatsApp groups, the thing the sports appointments, the appointment.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Medical appointments, meal planning, all of those things that all,
it all adds up a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Of time in your week.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I reckon, I've been thinking about how I need to
book my kids in for the dentist for about six
months now. I've been thinking about it. I'm like, oh,
I got to book that appointment, you know.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
And the problem with that is that it builds up
in women's minds. All of these things that are in
the back of your mind actually detract from your ability
to really focus in and give your all to certain things,
so that mental load accumulates over time and it becomes
overwhelming because women are effectively doing a double job. They're
leading double lives. They've got a day job, which they
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do and do it incredibly well, but then they've actually
got another full time job at home just in managing family.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And then for me, I find that when there's so
many things swimming around in my head, everything feels too hard,
so therefore I accomplish nothing.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Like it's just.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Absolutely why did you creategether?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
What inspired you to actually do it? You know, there's
a difference between having an idea that you know, lots
of us think, oh how good would it be if
we had something that did this or did this, but
you know you actually did it. Yeah, look across the
line for you.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Apart from dropping the ball all the time as apparent
what cross like? Look, I think for me, I always
thought that mental load was just me, that it was
just that I couldn't get on top of all of
these things. And look, we didn't even have a term
for it until twenty seventeen, which also blows my mind.
We just didn't even know what it was. But I
think the thing that really made me cross over that
line is that I started looking for tools when I
(14:36):
was going into a really big role in advertising executive
creative director. I knew it was going to be really
full on, and I started looking for digital tools that
were going to help me manage that load, and there
was nothing. And I was outrage because I have a
background in digital and technology, and so I know that
technology can help do this. It's not a problem of
that technology isn't capable, it's just that nobody was actually
(14:59):
solving that problem. And when I read into that further,
I got further in rage because the reason it's not
being solved is that it's not a problem for men.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It's just not something that is our but in their world.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
And so if you think about all of the startups
in Silicon Valley and the technology that comes out, they're
not people who are dealing with mental load on a
daily basis. And so I had this moment with my
sister actually, who's my co founder, where we and she's
got a background in technology as well, we thought, well,
we're going to do it ourselves. If nobody else is
going to build it, we're going to jump in and
(15:31):
we're going to give it a go. And build it ourselves.
And so that's exactly what we've been doing.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Good on you, So pretend that Teag and I are
five years old? Can you explain what the app is
and how it works?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Absolutely we did with lots of five year olds on there.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
There you go absolutely well, look.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Together as a family assistant that takes care of the
kid admin. It's an AI powered app that sorts auto
schedules and sands daily SMS reminders to free parents from
mental loads. So it's really designed to basically be like
a personal assistant that you would have at work. So
I've been lucky enough in my career that I've had
personal assistance and I've had it exposure to lots of
(16:08):
technology and tools. So this was also modeled on some
of the experiences I've had where a great personal assistant
will say, here's what you've got on tomorrow. There's this
and this, and we have to make sure that this
goes out and there are these two other things, and
it just frees you up so that you can focus
on other stuff. You can do a great job in
other eras.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And I like to be creue, but this is like
mum Pawn like it is literally like I'm sitting here like,
oh my gosh. But the other thing is and I
was reading that you can like send pd it so
because obviously there's the mental load of adding tasks into it,
like we've all got a calendar, yeah, and we've all
got like I've got reminder lists because I cannot remember anything.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But how does it work?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Like you magically can just send party invitations and it
sure can decodes it and creates it into.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
An So let's take that party invitation exam example, if
I had a party invitation for my son, I would
just forward it on together. It might be from WhatsApp,
or it might be from email. I just forward that
on to my family email address at gather. And what
the AI does is it extracts all the information out
of that image, so the date, the time, the place,
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which will be linked to Google Maps so you can
navigate your way to it. It will put an RSVP
reminder into your reminders as well, and it will also
remind you to buy a birthday present, because we all
know that you can't show up without a birthday present.
But a little about YouTube, But once or twice it's
been a close moment where we've forgotten.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
A birthday Amazon Amazon same day delivery, thank god cash
is king in my case, and a handmade cars.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
You can send a PDF, you can send an image,
you can send a document. You can send a school newsletter,
which is my favorite because I always miss that thing
about swimming on page fifteen of the school newsletter. A newsletter,
it will pick out all of those events and it
will put it into your calendar, the relevant ones for
your family, for your.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Children, because I actually missed meet the teacher because I
did read the newsletter, but as a non robot missed
that in the fine right and I didn't meet the teaching.
Make them work harder for you, make the ais work
harder for you. This is just I'm spinning. So is
this so two people can be admins? Obviously because we
(18:20):
don't st the default parent. Yeah, so two people can
import and so this could work in like also co
parenting situations when there's custody sharing.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Absolutely. Look, the way that gether is set up is
that you can have parents and caregivers. So you can
have two parents or you can have three parents on
there if you like, and they have access to view
and edit and change everything. That is within together, and
then we also have cares, so that might be a
grandparent or a nanny or an O pair who has
they can add things in, but they can't get in
(18:52):
and mess around with your account or delete the other
things that you have in there. So we really position
together as something that is there to lift but also
to share the mental load. And for us, what you
need to be able to do that is one central platform,
one central place where everything exists. So going back to
that day party invitation, Let's say my husband was going
to take my son to the party. He has everything
(19:14):
he needs in gether to be able.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
To get there.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
He has he does not have to call me.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Oh that's another thing, isn't it Because even if it's
in the parent yeah, yeah exactly, even if it's in
the calendar, you still then have to relay all the
associated information yourself.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Exactly exactly, and even worry about whether the person has
the information or not. I think that's something as mums
that we need to be able to hand things off,
but we also need a little bit of reassurance that
that person has it under control and they have what
they need, so that a we don't get the phone
calls but b we're not thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's such a good point. Earlier in the show, we
were talking about I use chat GBT to write to
my son's teacher an email to remove emotion and tone,
and we went through some of the Mum and Mere
family community and what they're using it for. And I'm
just fascinated, like, what else are we using a I
four in our lives? You look?
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Sometimes I use it for meal planning, so I will
ask chat JPT, you know, come up with a meal list.
We like this, this and this or this is in season,
and it will come back and give.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Me Megan's jaws on the floor.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, because I am doing just trodging through life. Like
what I'm just doing, I'm taking the hardest road.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
The wrong We're going to be a change woman after today.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Already, this is unbelievable. That's genius.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And what else?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
What else? Share it with us your AI hat?
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Look, I think like you, I use it for drafting things.
I think the thing to remember about AI is it's
never going to be the perfect end email that you
want to send or meal plan or recipe, but it
just is a springboard to get you much further along,
you know, when you look at a blank page or
you're like, you're just stuck in that what are we
going to have this week? For It just helps get
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you a little maybe fifty or sixty percent of the
way there, and then you're like, oh, we won't have that,
we could have this, and then you're off.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And someone else in the muma mea Facebook community said
that they use it to plan travel itineraries like I
just feel I know your face taking and Tolly's Jori
is also on the floor for the second time today.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
There's just so much.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I might get my pen and paper out and my notebook, na,
and I've got my notebook of pages and pages, which
actually gives me more anxiety, Like I have my notebook
to be organized, but it actually gives me more anxiety
because I've just got pages of like information all over
the place in no system. You need to get in
twenty twenty five, Girlfriends, Dear am.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
I searching is going to help you with that. I'm
with you. I'm not a super organized contrary to belief,
because we're in Getheredgether was created because I would.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Like, you're organized, but.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Because I had these moments of hot mess right, I
forget things for my kids. I once forgot my child's
high school interview and got a phone call from the
assistant principal to say was I joining the cour which
I quite of course I am. I'm there, I'm right there,
We're on zoom. It's amazing, it's all going to be amazing.
But I could because I realized that I wasn't the
only one and that everybody could do with some help
(22:19):
in this. And so AI is able to go and
find things for you and pull them back. So if
you've got notes everywhere, searching that is powered by AS
also a really great way of sorting through those things.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So in terms of privacy and security, because if we're
handing over a lot of information to the robots, like
the location of our children and all of those sorts
of things, what sort of security measures are in place?
And should we be careful with certain apps and certain
websites and imparting personal information.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
You absolutely should. So there's a feature across chutch apt
and a lot of the other AIS where you can
declare that you want your data to remain private and
you don't want AIS trained on your data. And so
that's something that we have in place for all of
everything that goes through together. There is no AI that's
being trained on it. It stays private in our system.
It doesn't get farmed out. But that's something that i'd
(23:11):
encourage everybody to have a look at. If you're putting
things into GPT, great, but make sure you've got the
privacy settings in there so that it's not going off
beyond the conversation that you're having right there and there.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think we're going to put a link to instructions
in the show notes, which I will then follow.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Yeah, just be aware of the privacy. And then there's
a number of different ones as well. PERPLEXITYI is great.
We use that so much for research and other things.
It really is brilliant.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I really see. I don't even know where to get
the AI from fatigue. Even as you mentioned before, you
can have a couple of different parents or admins or whatnot.
But like for someone like me, which my husband would
usually say, you know what's on the sav or what
times soccer, I'm like the same time it is every
single week. But this will notify him absolutely.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
He will get a text message the night before to say,
here's what's coming up tomorrow soccer. Let's just say you
have a dance class, or you know something else is
going on at school if it's crazy. Sock Day is
one of the ones we love to pick up because
we'll forget.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
About Harmony Day. Harmony Day.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Never wear orange or purple.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's twenty first of March.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
People just a head to Harmony Day at sports all
of those things, so many photo.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And it's always the colors.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You never have any right, green and orange.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Purple as well. I mean, as a mum of boys,
purple is.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I've got purple things I can send them in. Just
logging on now to sign on up. And so everyone
is on a different stage of the journey. Teagan's just
starting to come to twenty twenty five. I'm pretty good
with a twenty twenty five. Yeah, because you've literally just
used paper. Oh yeah, well look I've got to get
(24:52):
into the World Wide Web. So you're at the very
beginning of your journey. I do use AI quite a
lot in my personal life. Some people are obviously very
savvy what's coming up next? Like where do you think
we'll be in six twelve months time at the stage
of AI and how it's going to integrated in our lives.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Look I think you hit the nail on the head
when you said integrated. It's being integrated into everything. So
even now you'll notice when you do a Google search,
there's actually AI in the background that's giving you an
answer rather than just giving you a series of links,
which is what would have happened previously.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You're going to.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
See all of the existing tools that you have start
to get an uplift thanks to AI, as well as
some other AI things started to come in, like AI agents.
So AI agents are starting to come in as whole
employees that are replacing people for some of the more
basic tasks that might be carried out. That's something that
we're going to see a lot more of in the
(25:45):
next six to twelve months as well. But so that
permeating the things that you already use. And also they're
starting to deal with AI agents as opposed to people.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
All the time.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
We've already seen that with chatbots a little bit, but
this is on another level.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
My husband's not going into the pantry looking at my
handwritten paper calendar. He doesn't. He doesn't. It's more for myself.
This app like you know, when it's almost like it
it makes him be able to see account. It is no, no, no, no,
but like to actually see the stuff that women or
mums and some dads are dealing with in terms of
(26:22):
mental load, because it's like it's called mental load because
it's often in your brain. You know, it doesn't it
doesn't get out of there a lot. But when it's
you know, calendarized and shared, you're like, man, this is
what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
That it's visible, right, And that's the thing about invisible
load and mental loads. Making it visible for lots of
families is the first step. But yet a lot of
dads who are like.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Oh wow, I hadn't realized. Yes, that's what I was
trying to get at.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Relinquished control. Let go as queen else.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Give it to the bots. Well, thank you so much
for coming in and sharing your wisdom, and Teagan, I'm
a new woman. I am also evolved after this conversation
and I'm going to be using so much more and yeah,
making life easy.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So thank you so.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Much for sure. So tigs, wow, you have learnt. You've
come on a big journey today. This is just mind blowing.
Faper Kelly very excited. Yes, yeah, yes, what are the
main things that you're going to incorporate into your daily life. Well,
(27:27):
I love the idea with this app, specifically that you
can just email on PDFs. And the school newsletter is
really what got it over the line. Oh, the school newsletter.
I'll tell you what. This is my first year with
three kids in three separate classes because the twins have
been in the same class for the last two years.
So even the birthday invites like do you know what
I mean, like WhatsApp groups, then everyone creates a new
(27:51):
WhatsApp group for every yes, exactly. So, like I think
the fact that I can just go forward and then
it's in there amazing because like we said, it's the
thinking and the pudding in the calendar that is just
an additional mental load, correct activity.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Right, correct?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I think I'd like to also lean on more to
take out my terrible ballache of life, which is the
mental load of thinking about food and shopping lists. Like
I think I'm going to experiment with a bit more
of doing those kind of tasks in my world. Well,
thank you so much for listening to this glorious mess.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
We hope that, like.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Teaking it to Tollely, we have changed your life in
some way and that we can all just lean into
the robots a little bit more to make life easier,
because that's what we want. More free time, more Netflix
on the couch time. Yes, we definitely do and share
with us. So what do you yes AI for? We
love hearing your hacks because usually they're much better than
(28:52):
our and much more advance we learn from you. You're
all actually just helping us, yes better literally, so please
keep sharing on the Muma Mere Family Facebook page and
Mumma mea Family Instagram or leave us a message. All
of the details are in the show notes. This episode
was produced by a Tomline with audio production by Jacob Brown.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Bye,
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