April 9, 2025 • 23 mins
We are This Glorious Mess but this week we are also the Bluey Parent Appreciation Group (BPAG for short). We know it’s not just parents and little kids who love Bluey, early childhood educators are actually using episodes to teach. We explain why.
And, Libby and Tegan try to solve a dilemma that divided the Mamamia Family Facebook but end up adding to the conflict! While Libby has a habit that grinds Tegan’s gears.
Plus, Tegan recommends a read to celebrate Mum’s being the queen of the house (you’ll love it too)!
Listen to our conversation with ABC Early Childhood Producer, Laura Stone
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's Analyse.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Just dropping into your feed because I wanted to share
an episode from the archives. It's about Bluey, and obviously
our kids are obsessed and we're obsessed with Bluey, but
this episode actually talks about how experts are now using
it to teach actual kids, actual life lessons. And it's
just a really love note dedication to blue and why
(00:42):
we love Bluey so much. So enjoy.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm Libby Trickett and I'm taking a tolly. But you're
not just Libby Tricket. You have a plus one.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm also Alphi Tricket.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
This is a test the Mother's group in your ears,
where judgment is left at the door, and I have
a baby strap to me, so thank you for not
judging me. This is just where we're out at the
moment holidays, we're managing.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh my god, no judgment. I could stare at this
cute little face all day. Oh and your baby's cute too.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I like what you did there.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Oh my gosh, he's so cute.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Teagan, what have you nailed or failed in your week guarantee.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh my gosh, well, actually it's not this week, but
I remembered. I didn't mention it. It was towards the
end of last year and the twins had a bit
of a wrap up, you know, KINDI party, and I thought, oh,
I'll just pick Banjo up from daycare and I'll go
straight there. And of course the one time you're going
straight to anywhere from daycare, he walks out in girls
tights the year before graduation t shirt and like I
(01:52):
don't even know, but they'd done water play and whatever
he was walking in was like two sides is too small,
and I'm like, we're going somewhere now and we can't
go looking like that. So I ended up having to
put his wet clothes back on him like it was
a boiling hot day because I'm like, your air dry,
don't you'll air dry.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
So look, it was a fail, but we made it.
We made it work. We turned it into a nail.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm impressed my kids look like that twenty four to seven.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
That's how they turn up to school.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Like if they're not looking like, you know, completely discombobulated humans.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That is a miracle.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Day, it's a nail.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So what do you have to get off your chest
this week? What are we vibing teaging?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, look, we're vibing a bit of Bluey vibes right,
so for this final week of school holidays. I'm sure
over the last month or two you've watched you know,
a bit of Bluey. Surely it would almost be on
Australia not too write, And we're going to do a breakdown,
almost like a CSI analysis of what makes Bluey so good?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
What about you, Livvy, what would you like to chat
about today?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's not what I would like to talk about, tig,
and it's what the group would like to do about.
It's what the people people, the Mum and Mere family
group have been chatting and we are going to share
some listener dilemmas and have our own opinions about it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh my gosh, I love listener dilemmas and I know
our listeners do too, So let's get to it. Libby,
(03:34):
In case people have been living under a rock, can
you please give us a brief synopsis of Bluey.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Bluey is one of the best things to come out
of Australia, not only Australia, but out of Brisbane because
I'm a Brisbane girl.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So it is the most brilliant cartoon show.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It is a cartoon family of dogs, their sisters Bingo
and Bluey.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Obviously, yes, and a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Of people mistake Bluey for being a boy, but no,
we know that.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Are we stillirl? Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Chili and Bandit are the parents, and basically they are
the most beautiful stories you know of about seven minutes long,
and I am constantly blown away by the accuracy to
real life parenting. Yes, I don't know about you, Tiggan,
(04:26):
but it always makes me feel seen and validated.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Does Chili strap her puppies to her? That's what I
want to know.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
She would it? I feel like Chili would it?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think the parents enjoy watching Bluey as much as
the kids do, because I feel like the underlying storylines
between Chili and Bandit are just like typical you know,
mum and dad conversations. There's one episode where he goes
to buy Chinese for dinner and he gets the order
wrong or something, and I'm like, it's just so typical.
It's like exactly what happens in our household between mum
(05:01):
and Dad. However, I must say the beautiful thing about
it is it really does explore a lot of emotional intelligence,
I suppose for young kids. My older nieces were over
the other day and they put on some Simpsons, right, oh,
and I was, yeah, right, so for us, that's the
cartoons we used to watch when we were young. And
I'm sitting there going, this is not like educational at all, Like,
(05:26):
you know, you've got Marge's sister there, smoking darts, You've
got you know, like the creepy mister Burns and all
this stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Like there's so.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Many Like it's so creepy in a way that that
was our childhood shows, right, But then we're Bluey. You've
got these gorgeous little storylines, you know, and these underlying
tones of like learning emotional intelligence and empathy and resilience
and imaginative play. Like it's just a really great Yeah.
I think it's a really positive show for kids to watch.
(05:56):
I think it's a positive show for me to watch.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yes, I feel like I've learned so much about my
parenting journey. Yes through One of my favorite episodes of
Blue is the Baby Race, where Billy is talking to
Bluey and Bingo about Blue learning to walk, and how
Chili wanted to like compete against the other parents and
their babies and who's going to win this baby racer
(06:21):
who's walking first?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
And then that is going to make you the best parent?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Oh my gosh, it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
At the end of it, like you could see Chili
was getting really sad that Blue wasn't progressing as well,
and right at the end, like another dog comes along
and says.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You're doing great.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oh, Chili started crying, and like literally every time I
watch this episode, I start crying exactly what, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And that's like all that any mum ever wants to hear.
And it's like what you said about, you know, kids sleeping, like, oh,
have you got a good baby?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Are they sleeping through the night.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's like, what makes my baby a bad baby if
they're not sleeping through the night, you know, And very
rarely does someone just turn around and go.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
You know what, you've got this you're doing awesome? So yeah,
that is so good.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think it teaches people so much, not just kids,
but the adults as well. And like it's go on
game buses, like it's all around the world now it's winning. Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
So a little while back we interviewed Laura Stone, who
is the Early Childhood producer at the ABC, and it
was in reference to Bluey's Past the Parcel episode. Now,
if you haven't seen it, Basically there's some controversy about
how Past the Parcel should be rolled out. I suppose like,
as a parent, are you the person that puts a
(07:34):
little gift in every single unwrapping of the Past the
Parcel so that everyone ends up getting something? Or should
we be teaching our kids that there's one winner, one prize,
whoever gets it at the end. And it's so interesting
that the kids learn that, you know, not everyone's going
to get something at every party, and they go through
those motions of learning that as well. So, like I
(07:56):
think even just things like that is such a great
lesson of like resilience, of fair play, of being happy
for others when they receive something that you might not.
There's so many underlying things with Bluey. That's what makes
it so good, I think for adults and kids as well.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And I particularly love that episode taking it makes you
reflect on things that we kind of just take for granted. Yeah,
like all of a sudden we're all putting little presents
in every single rapping.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Of past the parcel.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And I'm like, we definitely didn't do that when I
was a kid, but all of a sudden, that's just
what was happening, and so you go, ah, yeah, I
don't have to do that, Like you can kind of
start to look at that, and yeah it does. It
creates a whole different dynamic between kids and.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
What their expectations are. One of my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And it's so random, but it always makes me feel
good anytime there's a shot in the car in the
back seats, just like there's crap everywhere, like there's rubbish,
there's you know, single almonds just in the middle of
the seats, Like it just makes me feel so normal
and like it's reality.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I'm so seen by a dog family. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, look if early childcare educators are like adding it
to their curriculum because it's assisting with learning.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Then I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's like the one TV show that you don't feel
bad about popping your.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Kids in front of one.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
There are other shows where parents and kids can both enjoy.
Like I said before going back and watching The Simpsons,
you're like, oh my god, this is actually funnier to
me now that I'm older rather than as a kid.
But as a kid we thought it was great as well.
But we'll talk about a few more of those a
bit later in the show.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So this is a dilemma from our Muma Mia facebook group.
If you haven't joined already, check out Mum and mea family.
But this dilemma had hundreds and hundreds of comments about
whether hundred thousands, thousands of comments.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
It sparks and emotions, this one didn't it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It really did about whether or not you should be
a shoe off or shoe off on household, especially if
you have kids crawling on the ground. So I'm going
to read the dilemma now, we are a shoes off
household because we have a baby who is crawling on
the ground, which means we also spend quite a lot
of time on the ground.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
We had a lot of pushback when we ask people
to take their shoes off, so we got one of
those signs at the front door to take away the
confrontation when people walk through our front door. But we
still have people who have an issue with it. We've
been told it's rude, to ask people to d shoe
to the point where said relatives have declined many an
invitation to come over. I mean that seems a lot.
(10:52):
So basically, there were so many different comments. A lot
of people were saying, you can't expect people to take
their shoes off, what if they are embarrassed, what if
they have medical condition and they don't want to people
sharing their own shoes on and off stories, and a
lot talking about the hygiene for the baby.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
The first thing I thought of when she said she
had a baby who's crawling, I'm like, the baby's people
lick tinier off the floor, Like don't you want these
people to keep their shoes on in the case that
you don't want them walking barefoot?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Wing your babies?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like oh god, it's like a snot all over again,
Like toes keep your shoes on? For me, I would
feel rude absolutely if people come to my house, and
you know what, to be honest, most people come. I
don't know, like you offer, you're like, oh, I take
my shoes off, or if I go to someone's house,
I naturally would do that anyway, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I just feel like it's very strong feelings both ways
that people have about this conversation. I mean it's gross
both ways, right, because you're like there's tinny, there's like athletes,
like there's so many grouse discussing things that feet bring
in bring out?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Can we do a sox like when when she asks
people to take socks, yes, yeah, or like can you
provide some nice slippers or something? If you want me
to take my shoes? I want the silk goods, thank you.
I had like the hotel ones, like the little hotel
like shuffle slippers that we can go around in.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But I think like for me, I err on the
side of a little bit weird because when I was
growing up, I didn't wear shoes around my house. And
I don't know if you ever do this thing Tigan
where you climb into bed and that we had wooden
floors and you climb into bed and before you put
your feet into bed you do a little rub together.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, it's like, yes, you do a foot rub as
in foot to foot, your own two feet and like clean,
it's like sweep your feet clean one hundred percent. So
for me in my house again, like you, I have
floorboards as soon as I wake up in the morning,
Like I put shoes on, whether it's like, yes, slippers
if it's winter, or like just some sandals if it's summer,
(13:03):
because I hate the feeling of stuff on my feet,
especially like dust, sand, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That's exactly me so because I doing that for so
long as a kid, and then we had a pug
for a really long time and he just used to
drop hair everywhere, so he just started wearing shoes all
the time. But my husband is like the opposite. He
never wears shoes, and he like pointed it out the
other day that it's weird that I wear shoes all
the time.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
We'd rather not feel the dust than have to clean
our floors with me. Let's be honest, We're just putting
the shoes on so we don't have to feel that
we're due to clean the floor.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
One.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
But apparently it is very good for your body and
for a you know, your strength and stuff, to walk
around barefoot. It's very important. So I am trying to
do that more often. But it's still weird.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
What weird with their feet?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, Like I understand why people might be embarrassed if
they have like a weird not a weird well they
might have smelly feet and that.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, that's worse, like as if you want that mean
your baby. I don't know. I don't think we've actually
solved anything with this dileve.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I no, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I don't even think we established if we agree or disagree.
We've just talked to our grossed feet.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Up and that we both have very strong opinions, and
we both do the.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Weird foot rub.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
We need to clean our floors, and we both do
the bragman's foot rub.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I mean it's been enlightening.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Okay, So the second dilemma I can relate to, so
our dilemma. Rah has said, I really resent picking up
my husband's clothes from the floor. We have had many
conversations about this. He agrees to pick them up and
then just doesn't.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That's gonna go real well?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He now, after I ask him, puts all his clothes
into the wash basket, whether they are dirty or not.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
What should I do? I don't want to make him angry.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I don't want to pick up his clothes, and I
don't want to wash clean clothes. I know this is
a tiny petty problem. It's really bothering me. Oh my god,
this is like, dolly, doctor, it's so great, but it's like, dilemma, doctor.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well, how do you feel about this? Tagan, it's like
a pet peeve?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Don't you reckon?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Like once someone does something like this, and you know,
like sometimes it takes you a bit to work up
to say, hey, can you not do that? Like, because
it's annoying and there's no nice way to say it,
and even probably bringing it up for the first time
is probably going to cause a little bit of the.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Okay, no worries.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I'll just pick everything up and put it in the
wash so you can do double the work. It probably
would have been easier for you just to pick up
my dirty washing.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well that's that learned helplessness, right. Like my husband does
that when we talk about cooking. He just does not cook,
and so when it comes to him cooking, he's like, oh, well,
what do I do?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Now? What do I do?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Now?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
What's the next step? And you know how to chop
a carrot?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And it's like, okay, I'll just do it because it's
quick and FASTA my.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Ex boyfriend used to pretend he didn't know how to
appeal prawl so that he would never have to peel prawns.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Which that's brilliant, I know, right, which.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Is absolute genius. So I wonder if her husband's like,
you know what, if I piss her off for long
enough by like screwing this up, like I can't pick
up my dirty clothes, I'm gonna put the clean clothes
in the wash as well, maybe.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
She'll just give up and just maybe she'll just do
it for me. Yeah, that's what you reckon.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Fine, But meanwhile I get it the resentment, Like my
husband leaves wet towels on the bed and it makes
me stew. There's a few things I'll let go, like
a dirty glass of water on the bedside table, I'll
let that go. But when you're wetting my bed that
I either want to lay later or if I didn't
remove the towel, would still be wet the whole day
(16:56):
for when I want to lay in later, grinds my gears.
If you couldn't tell.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Guys, I don't think we could be married, Degan, because
I may be that person.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Oh my god, Libby, trigger you leave wet towels on
the bed, Maybe that that's because you were a swimmer
for so long that you had wet towels all the time.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But this particular dilemma is something that my husband and
I have argued about four years. Like from the very
beginning of our relationship. I've come from a really messy household.
My mum would clean everything, and like I talk about
it, it wasn't good for me to do all the things
that I should have been doing as a teenager.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
But I've come from that background where I just dropped clothes.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
On the ground and then all of a sudden they
were clean and folded and put away.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Oh my god, did your mom ever complain about it?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
No, but that was my mum as well. Like she
just did it. She loved it. Well, I don't know
if she loved me. She just did it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And so Luke and I moved in together like he
was the other end of the spectrum, like super clean,
like too much, like it was too intense, okay around
that For years, it's been a source of.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
What's the word conflicts?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, education we might have had. So, yeah, it's such
an interesting thing. I have to say, I am a
lot better, and I think partly because I see the girls,
my kids doing it and leaving wet towels everywhere and
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And you're like, hold on, now, I'm the cleaning fairy.
Pick it up, I must say. I said to my
mom the other day, I'm like, you know what I remember?
I used to like roll my eyes at you.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
You'd be like.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
All I ever do is pick up alfter you and
you just leave a trail of things behind you everywhere
you go. And like, literally every second day, I'm stopping
myself going, wow, I am saying to my kids exactly
what I used to roll my eyes at my mom
for saying to me. And it's a moment in life
where you're like, I am my mom, it's happening, and like,
(18:53):
who do you think's gonna pick this up? Or you know,
like I've been saying to my kids when you finish
with your crayons and your pencils, pick them up, like
who do you think is going to pick them up?
And they'll look at me and I'm like, oh my god,
I never thought of that either, like when it was
my mom. But then we're not talking about kids in
this still. We're actually talking grown ass adults.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So I think it's very acceptable that she's feeling annoyed.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
What do you reckon? We do from here.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't think it is a tiny petty problem. I
know she says it is, but I don't think it is,
because you know what, tiny petty problems turn into big fat,
resentful ones. Look, maybe do you spell it out or
leave it? Maybe you leave a clean basket a dirty basket,
like if you.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Can't really you know, it's communicate, communicate, communicator, And it's
really boring and it's so unsexy and unsatisfying.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But like say to your husband, like this.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Makes me feel like shit, Like it makes me feel
like you don't value my time or my energy in
what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Like we're a team.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah you're taking the piss.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Now be a teammate and like, yeah, at least look
after your own stuff because I'm trying to sort all
of this over here.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
A man's sister.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You made your mom crazy. I love all my children equally.
I wish I liked anything as whuch as my kids
like bubbles.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
That's sad.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So in the theme of this Blue Effect episode, I
actually got around Mother's Day the Bluey Book, and it's
called Queen's And can I just recommend I'm not going
to give away the whole storyline, but it's such a
cute book and I love reading it to my kids
because it's all about, you.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Know, the mum being the queen.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Anyway, without giving too much away, Bingo and Bluey are
fighting over who gets to be the butler love and
it's like every day the mom's are the butler and
you know, for one minute, good old Chili gets to
be the queen. So it's a really cute one, especially
you know around Mother's Day or things like that, or
a gift to a mom.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
It's really cute. So that's my recommendation. The blue book
called Queen's.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So I would love to recommend a movie or a
series of movies. It's called Zombies and there's zombies one, two,
and three.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Oh my gosh, is this like were they're singing ones? Yes,
my girls are as sessed with these.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, welcome back to Sebro Humans, zombies and were wolves
have learned to live together.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Let's the surname.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
That's the.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Seabrook was a part of our part forever everything.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We kind of started to listen to the soundtrack first
because zombies can be a little scary for my kids,
for any kids.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Really.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
There's like one part at the beginning when they sort
of talk about how the zombies came to be that
they didn't like for a while, but for the rest
of it, and a couple of moments where the zombie
zombie out. It's a term. You'll get to know it.
But if your kids are kind of between the ages
of sort of I don't know, like maybe five to twelve,
(21:57):
I reckon, they would love this.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
The songs are so cool, like I reckon.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
One of the songs called Ain't No Doubt About It
is one of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I can sing every song word for words. So in the.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Jet one, yes, oh my god, you like.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Dancing is awesome. The singing is awesome. Yeah, I just
I highly recommend it. And that's along the theme of
something that you can watch together you both enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I absolutely agree with you there, like I love watching
those shows and listening to the tracks as well. So
that's a great recommendation because my girls are obsessed. They're
like Zombie two, No One, No three, There's quite a
few of them. So it's good you can burn some
of those school holiday hours while we still have some.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Movie marathon and to the Jama Day movie marathon. Thank
you so much for listening to this glorious mess. Get
in touch with us at TGM, at mammamea dot com
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Mamma MEA Family. This episode was produced by Grace Rubrey
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's Analyse.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Just dropping into your feed because I wanted to share
an episode from the archives. It's about Bluey, and obviously
our kids are obsessed and we're obsessed with Bluey, but
this episode actually talks about how experts are now using
it to teach actual kids, actual life lessons. And it's
just a really love note dedication to blue and why
(00:42):
we love Bluey so much. So enjoy.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm Libby Trickett and I'm taking a tolly. But you're
not just Libby Tricket. You have a plus one.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm also Alphi Tricket.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
This is a test the Mother's group in your ears,
where judgment is left at the door, and I have
a baby strap to me, so thank you for not
judging me. This is just where we're out at the
moment holidays, we're managing.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh my god, no judgment. I could stare at this
cute little face all day. Oh and your baby's cute too.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I like what you did there.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Oh my gosh, he's so cute.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Teagan, what have you nailed or failed in your week guarantee.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh my gosh, well, actually it's not this week, but
I remembered. I didn't mention it. It was towards the
end of last year and the twins had a bit
of a wrap up, you know, KINDI party, and I thought, oh,
I'll just pick Banjo up from daycare and I'll go
straight there. And of course the one time you're going
straight to anywhere from daycare, he walks out in girls
tights the year before graduation t shirt and like I
(01:52):
don't even know, but they'd done water play and whatever
he was walking in was like two sides is too small,
and I'm like, we're going somewhere now and we can't
go looking like that. So I ended up having to
put his wet clothes back on him like it was
a boiling hot day because I'm like, your air dry,
don't you'll air dry.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
So look, it was a fail, but we made it.
We made it work. We turned it into a nail.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm impressed my kids look like that twenty four to seven.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
That's how they turn up to school.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Like if they're not looking like, you know, completely discombobulated humans.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That is a miracle.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Day, it's a nail.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So what do you have to get off your chest
this week? What are we vibing teaging?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, look, we're vibing a bit of Bluey vibes right,
so for this final week of school holidays. I'm sure
over the last month or two you've watched you know,
a bit of Bluey. Surely it would almost be on
Australia not too write, And we're going to do a breakdown,
almost like a CSI analysis of what makes Bluey so good?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
What about you, Livvy, what would you like to chat
about today?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's not what I would like to talk about, tig,
and it's what the group would like to do about.
It's what the people people, the Mum and Mere family
group have been chatting and we are going to share
some listener dilemmas and have our own opinions about it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh my gosh, I love listener dilemmas and I know
our listeners do too, So let's get to it. Libby,
(03:34):
In case people have been living under a rock, can
you please give us a brief synopsis of Bluey.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Bluey is one of the best things to come out
of Australia, not only Australia, but out of Brisbane because
I'm a Brisbane girl.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So it is the most brilliant cartoon show.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It is a cartoon family of dogs, their sisters Bingo
and Bluey.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Obviously, yes, and a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Of people mistake Bluey for being a boy, but no,
we know that.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Are we stillirl? Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Chili and Bandit are the parents, and basically they are
the most beautiful stories you know of about seven minutes long,
and I am constantly blown away by the accuracy to
real life parenting. Yes, I don't know about you, Tiggan,
(04:26):
but it always makes me feel seen and validated.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Does Chili strap her puppies to her? That's what I
want to know.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
She would it? I feel like Chili would it?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think the parents enjoy watching Bluey as much as
the kids do, because I feel like the underlying storylines
between Chili and Bandit are just like typical you know,
mum and dad conversations. There's one episode where he goes
to buy Chinese for dinner and he gets the order
wrong or something, and I'm like, it's just so typical.
It's like exactly what happens in our household between mum
(05:01):
and Dad. However, I must say the beautiful thing about
it is it really does explore a lot of emotional intelligence,
I suppose for young kids. My older nieces were over
the other day and they put on some Simpsons, right, oh,
and I was, yeah, right, so for us, that's the
cartoons we used to watch when we were young. And
I'm sitting there going, this is not like educational at all, Like,
(05:26):
you know, you've got Marge's sister there, smoking darts, You've
got you know, like the creepy mister Burns and all
this stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Like there's so.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Many Like it's so creepy in a way that that
was our childhood shows, right, But then we're Bluey. You've
got these gorgeous little storylines, you know, and these underlying
tones of like learning emotional intelligence and empathy and resilience
and imaginative play. Like it's just a really great Yeah.
I think it's a really positive show for kids to watch.
(05:56):
I think it's a positive show for me to watch.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yes, I feel like I've learned so much about my
parenting journey. Yes through One of my favorite episodes of
Blue is the Baby Race, where Billy is talking to
Bluey and Bingo about Blue learning to walk, and how
Chili wanted to like compete against the other parents and
their babies and who's going to win this baby racer
(06:21):
who's walking first?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
And then that is going to make you the best parent?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Oh my gosh, it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
At the end of it, like you could see Chili
was getting really sad that Blue wasn't progressing as well,
and right at the end, like another dog comes along
and says.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You're doing great.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oh, Chili started crying, and like literally every time I
watch this episode, I start crying exactly what, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And that's like all that any mum ever wants to hear.
And it's like what you said about, you know, kids sleeping, like, oh,
have you got a good baby?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Are they sleeping through the night.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's like, what makes my baby a bad baby if
they're not sleeping through the night, you know, And very
rarely does someone just turn around and go.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
You know what, you've got this you're doing awesome? So yeah,
that is so good.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think it teaches people so much, not just kids,
but the adults as well. And like it's go on
game buses, like it's all around the world now it's winning. Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
So a little while back we interviewed Laura Stone, who
is the Early Childhood producer at the ABC, and it
was in reference to Bluey's Past the Parcel episode. Now,
if you haven't seen it, Basically there's some controversy about
how Past the Parcel should be rolled out. I suppose like,
as a parent, are you the person that puts a
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little gift in every single unwrapping of the Past the
Parcel so that everyone ends up getting something? Or should
we be teaching our kids that there's one winner, one prize,
whoever gets it at the end. And it's so interesting
that the kids learn that, you know, not everyone's going
to get something at every party, and they go through
those motions of learning that as well. So, like I
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think even just things like that is such a great
lesson of like resilience, of fair play, of being happy
for others when they receive something that you might not.
There's so many underlying things with Bluey. That's what makes
it so good, I think for adults and kids as well.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And I particularly love that episode taking it makes you
reflect on things that we kind of just take for granted. Yeah,
like all of a sudden we're all putting little presents
in every single rapping.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Of past the parcel.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And I'm like, we definitely didn't do that when I
was a kid, but all of a sudden, that's just
what was happening, and so you go, ah, yeah, I
don't have to do that, Like you can kind of
start to look at that, and yeah it does. It
creates a whole different dynamic between kids and.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
What their expectations are. One of my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And it's so random, but it always makes me feel
good anytime there's a shot in the car in the
back seats, just like there's crap everywhere, like there's rubbish,
there's you know, single almonds just in the middle of
the seats, Like it just makes me feel so normal
and like it's reality.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I'm so seen by a dog family. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, look if early childcare educators are like adding it
to their curriculum because it's assisting with learning.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Then I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's like the one TV show that you don't feel
bad about popping your.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Kids in front of one.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
There are other shows where parents and kids can both enjoy.
Like I said before going back and watching The Simpsons,
you're like, oh my god, this is actually funnier to
me now that I'm older rather than as a kid.
But as a kid we thought it was great as well.
But we'll talk about a few more of those a
bit later in the show.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So this is a dilemma from our Muma Mia facebook group.
If you haven't joined already, check out Mum and mea family.
But this dilemma had hundreds and hundreds of comments about
whether hundred thousands, thousands of comments.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
It sparks and emotions, this one didn't it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It really did about whether or not you should be
a shoe off or shoe off on household, especially if
you have kids crawling on the ground. So I'm going
to read the dilemma now, we are a shoes off
household because we have a baby who is crawling on
the ground, which means we also spend quite a lot
of time on the ground.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
We had a lot of pushback when we ask people
to take their shoes off, so we got one of
those signs at the front door to take away the
confrontation when people walk through our front door. But we
still have people who have an issue with it. We've
been told it's rude, to ask people to d shoe
to the point where said relatives have declined many an
invitation to come over. I mean that seems a lot.
(10:52):
So basically, there were so many different comments. A lot
of people were saying, you can't expect people to take
their shoes off, what if they are embarrassed, what if
they have medical condition and they don't want to people
sharing their own shoes on and off stories, and a
lot talking about the hygiene for the baby.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
The first thing I thought of when she said she
had a baby who's crawling, I'm like, the baby's people
lick tinier off the floor, Like don't you want these
people to keep their shoes on in the case that
you don't want them walking barefoot?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Wing your babies?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like oh god, it's like a snot all over again,
Like toes keep your shoes on? For me, I would
feel rude absolutely if people come to my house, and
you know what, to be honest, most people come. I
don't know, like you offer, you're like, oh, I take
my shoes off, or if I go to someone's house,
I naturally would do that anyway, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I just feel like it's very strong feelings both ways
that people have about this conversation. I mean it's gross
both ways, right, because you're like there's tinny, there's like athletes,
like there's so many grouse discussing things that feet bring
in bring out?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Can we do a sox like when when she asks
people to take socks, yes, yeah, or like can you
provide some nice slippers or something? If you want me
to take my shoes? I want the silk goods, thank you.
I had like the hotel ones, like the little hotel
like shuffle slippers that we can go around in.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But I think like for me, I err on the
side of a little bit weird because when I was
growing up, I didn't wear shoes around my house. And
I don't know if you ever do this thing Tigan
where you climb into bed and that we had wooden
floors and you climb into bed and before you put
your feet into bed you do a little rub together.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, it's like, yes, you do a foot rub as
in foot to foot, your own two feet and like clean,
it's like sweep your feet clean one hundred percent. So
for me in my house again, like you, I have
floorboards as soon as I wake up in the morning,
Like I put shoes on, whether it's like, yes, slippers
if it's winter, or like just some sandals if it's summer,
(13:03):
because I hate the feeling of stuff on my feet,
especially like dust, sand, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That's exactly me so because I doing that for so
long as a kid, and then we had a pug
for a really long time and he just used to
drop hair everywhere, so he just started wearing shoes all
the time. But my husband is like the opposite. He
never wears shoes, and he like pointed it out the
other day that it's weird that I wear shoes all
the time.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
We'd rather not feel the dust than have to clean
our floors with me. Let's be honest, We're just putting
the shoes on so we don't have to feel that
we're due to clean the floor.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
One.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
But apparently it is very good for your body and
for a you know, your strength and stuff, to walk
around barefoot. It's very important. So I am trying to
do that more often. But it's still weird.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
What weird with their feet?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, Like I understand why people might be embarrassed if
they have like a weird not a weird well they
might have smelly feet and that.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, that's worse, like as if you want that mean
your baby. I don't know. I don't think we've actually
solved anything with this dileve.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I no, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I don't even think we established if we agree or disagree.
We've just talked to our grossed feet.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Up and that we both have very strong opinions, and
we both do the.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Weird foot rub.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
We need to clean our floors, and we both do
the bragman's foot rub.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I mean it's been enlightening.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Okay, So the second dilemma I can relate to, so
our dilemma. Rah has said, I really resent picking up
my husband's clothes from the floor. We have had many
conversations about this. He agrees to pick them up and
then just doesn't.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That's gonna go real well?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He now, after I ask him, puts all his clothes
into the wash basket, whether they are dirty or not.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
What should I do? I don't want to make him angry.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I don't want to pick up his clothes, and I
don't want to wash clean clothes. I know this is
a tiny petty problem. It's really bothering me. Oh my god,
this is like, dolly, doctor, it's so great, but it's like, dilemma, doctor.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well, how do you feel about this? Tagan, it's like
a pet peeve?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Don't you reckon?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Like once someone does something like this, and you know,
like sometimes it takes you a bit to work up
to say, hey, can you not do that? Like, because
it's annoying and there's no nice way to say it,
and even probably bringing it up for the first time
is probably going to cause a little bit of the.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Okay, no worries.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I'll just pick everything up and put it in the
wash so you can do double the work. It probably
would have been easier for you just to pick up
my dirty washing.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well that's that learned helplessness, right. Like my husband does
that when we talk about cooking. He just does not cook,
and so when it comes to him cooking, he's like, oh, well,
what do I do?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Now? What do I do?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Now?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
What's the next step? And you know how to chop
a carrot?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And it's like, okay, I'll just do it because it's
quick and FASTA my.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Ex boyfriend used to pretend he didn't know how to
appeal prawl so that he would never have to peel prawns.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Which that's brilliant, I know, right, which.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Is absolute genius. So I wonder if her husband's like,
you know what, if I piss her off for long
enough by like screwing this up, like I can't pick
up my dirty clothes, I'm gonna put the clean clothes
in the wash as well, maybe.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
She'll just give up and just maybe she'll just do
it for me. Yeah, that's what you reckon.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Fine, But meanwhile I get it the resentment, Like my
husband leaves wet towels on the bed and it makes
me stew. There's a few things I'll let go, like
a dirty glass of water on the bedside table, I'll
let that go. But when you're wetting my bed that
I either want to lay later or if I didn't
remove the towel, would still be wet the whole day
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for when I want to lay in later, grinds my gears.
If you couldn't tell.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Guys, I don't think we could be married, Degan, because
I may be that person.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Oh my god, Libby, trigger you leave wet towels on
the bed, Maybe that that's because you were a swimmer
for so long that you had wet towels all the time.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But this particular dilemma is something that my husband and
I have argued about four years. Like from the very
beginning of our relationship. I've come from a really messy household.
My mum would clean everything, and like I talk about
it, it wasn't good for me to do all the things
that I should have been doing as a teenager.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
But I've come from that background where I just dropped clothes.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
On the ground and then all of a sudden they
were clean and folded and put away.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Oh my god, did your mom ever complain about it?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
No, but that was my mum as well. Like she
just did it. She loved it. Well, I don't know
if she loved me. She just did it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And so Luke and I moved in together like he
was the other end of the spectrum, like super clean,
like too much, like it was too intense, okay around
that For years, it's been a source of.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
What's the word conflicts?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, education we might have had. So, yeah, it's such
an interesting thing. I have to say, I am a
lot better, and I think partly because I see the girls,
my kids doing it and leaving wet towels everywhere and
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And you're like, hold on, now, I'm the cleaning fairy.
Pick it up, I must say. I said to my
mom the other day, I'm like, you know what I remember?
I used to like roll my eyes at you.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
You'd be like.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
All I ever do is pick up alfter you and
you just leave a trail of things behind you everywhere
you go. And like, literally every second day, I'm stopping
myself going, wow, I am saying to my kids exactly
what I used to roll my eyes at my mom
for saying to me. And it's a moment in life
where you're like, I am my mom, it's happening, and like,
(18:53):
who do you think's gonna pick this up? Or you know,
like I've been saying to my kids when you finish
with your crayons and your pencils, pick them up, like
who do you think is going to pick them up?
And they'll look at me and I'm like, oh my god,
I never thought of that either, like when it was
my mom. But then we're not talking about kids in
this still. We're actually talking grown ass adults.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So I think it's very acceptable that she's feeling annoyed.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
What do you reckon? We do from here.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't think it is a tiny petty problem. I
know she says it is, but I don't think it is,
because you know what, tiny petty problems turn into big fat,
resentful ones. Look, maybe do you spell it out or
leave it? Maybe you leave a clean basket a dirty basket,
like if you.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Can't really you know, it's communicate, communicate, communicator, And it's
really boring and it's so unsexy and unsatisfying.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
But like say to your husband, like this.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Makes me feel like shit, Like it makes me feel
like you don't value my time or my energy in
what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Like we're a team.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah you're taking the piss.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Now be a teammate and like, yeah, at least look
after your own stuff because I'm trying to sort all
of this over here.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
A man's sister.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You made your mom crazy. I love all my children equally.
I wish I liked anything as whuch as my kids
like bubbles.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
That's sad.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So in the theme of this Blue Effect episode, I
actually got around Mother's Day the Bluey Book, and it's
called Queen's And can I just recommend I'm not going
to give away the whole storyline, but it's such a
cute book and I love reading it to my kids
because it's all about, you.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Know, the mum being the queen.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Anyway, without giving too much away, Bingo and Bluey are
fighting over who gets to be the butler love and
it's like every day the mom's are the butler and
you know, for one minute, good old Chili gets to
be the queen. So it's a really cute one, especially
you know around Mother's Day or things like that, or
a gift to a mom.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
It's really cute. So that's my recommendation. The blue book
called Queen's.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So I would love to recommend a movie or a
series of movies. It's called Zombies and there's zombies one, two,
and three.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Oh my gosh, is this like were they're singing ones? Yes,
my girls are as sessed with these.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, welcome back to Sebro Humans, zombies and were wolves
have learned to live together.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Let's the surname.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
That's the.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Seabrook was a part of our part forever everything.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We kind of started to listen to the soundtrack first
because zombies can be a little scary for my kids,
for any kids.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Really.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
There's like one part at the beginning when they sort
of talk about how the zombies came to be that
they didn't like for a while, but for the rest
of it, and a couple of moments where the zombie
zombie out. It's a term. You'll get to know it.
But if your kids are kind of between the ages
of sort of I don't know, like maybe five to twelve,
(21:57):
I reckon, they would love this.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
The songs are so cool, like I reckon.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
One of the songs called Ain't No Doubt About It
is one of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I can sing every song word for words. So in the.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Jet one, yes, oh my god, you like.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Dancing is awesome. The singing is awesome. Yeah, I just
I highly recommend it. And that's along the theme of
something that you can watch together you both enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I absolutely agree with you there, like I love watching
those shows and listening to the tracks as well. So
that's a great recommendation because my girls are obsessed. They're
like Zombie two, No One, No three, There's quite a
few of them. So it's good you can burn some
of those school holiday hours while we still have some.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Movie marathon and to the Jama Day movie marathon. Thank
you so much for listening to this glorious mess. Get
in touch with us at TGM, at mammamea dot com
dot a U, and don't forget to join our parenting group,
Mamma MEA Family. This episode was produced by Grace Rubrey
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