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July 2, 2024 13 mins

PSA, this is how to actually accept your skin issues - and don't worry we're not going to tell you to love yourself. 

And, Kee has an update on the brow lamination that transformed her brows from basic to perfectly shaped, and shaved minutes off her busy morning routine. 

Plus, Lucy discovered a six-piece cream eyeshadow palette that's a total game-changer. Every time she wears it, the compliments roll in. Think creamy shades, wearable colours, and effortless application...

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Hosts: Kee Reece & Lucy Neville

Producer: Cassie Merritt

Audio Producer: Lu Hill

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
On Makeup is My Therapy.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I don't even feel.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Guilty of body.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hello, and welcome to you Beauty the daily podcast for
Your Face.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I am Kiri Sol and I'm Lucy Neville. And this
is Beauty Besties.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
This is a show where us two real life besties
and beauty creators go down a beauty rabbit hole talking
about everything and anything beauty and give you some picks
of the week.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Now that we're all Bessie Leslie friends, best friends, best
ESTI together.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Today on the show, We're going to talk about keys
brow elimination because I look amazing. But first I wanted
to talk about acne. So I have acne, and growing
up I had really clear skin. I remember friends making
comments me about it because typically we think teenagers acne,
hormones going wild, all that kind of stuff. But no

(01:13):
teen acne for me. Maybe a pimple every now and then.
Then in my early twenties, I started getting cistic, hormonal acne.
I had this iconic twelve week pimple stop fit. But anyway,
I'm twenty eight now and since my early twenties it's
been fairly consistent, so I get comments on it. Comments
don't really bother me because I feel like I'm out

(01:34):
a place of acceptance with my skin, like I really am.
I just kind of feel like skin is skin is skin,
and we're so used to seeing filters on skin and
edited photos and perfect skin, but perfect skin doesn't actually exist. Yeah,
and especially if you're up against hormonal challenges, medication, all
kinds of things that can play into acne. There have

(01:54):
been a few comments. TikTok mostly is the beast I
can't I had a viral video about nothing skin related.
It was just me speaking to the camera. The top
comment was I can't stop looking at her pimple, and
it had like thousands and thousands of likes. This video
went fully viral, so I just replied to it being like, Hey,
I have hormonal acne and there's not really anything I

(02:16):
could do about this pinpool, but I hope you have
a really beautiful day killing with kindness always. Yeah, Like,
I'm just like, I'm aware that I have a pimple.
That's also the funniest thing of people like you have
a pimple, and I'm like, I know, yeah, I can
feel it. I looked in the mirror, made to look
in the mirror. I can feel it. I think I
replied something along those lines and that person actually replied
being like I am so embarrassed. That's the first place

(02:37):
my mind went to and I'm really sorry, and I
was like, this was a good learning moment. I'm still
mad at them. For me, I was like, this is
a teachable moment. And my Instagram is kind of where
I show up the most authentically as myself and I'm
always on my stories. I never put filters, I never
edit my skin, and the feedback that I've had from
it has been really heartwarming, just people feeling seen and

(03:00):
trusting my recommendations because I've lived through it. While my
skin is kind of in a good place at the moment,
I just never know when it's going to change. And
there have been things that have helped manage my acme
Retinol really helps my acne the best. Yeah, skin needling.
I did a course of skin needling I've talked about
it before and that I found really effective. Also led,

(03:23):
but the number one thing is self acceptance, like, truly
you can do all of those things. I always joke
that I feel like on my wedding day, if I
get married, I'm going to have the most unbelievable cystic semple,
because that is just what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Because totally.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah. I had a really good chat on in her
bag with Maggie's out about skin neutrality.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I am someone who really, really really tries to embrace
body and skin neutrality throughout my life. And for those
who might not have heard the concept, it's just about
treating your body and your skin as something that serves you.
It's more about putting less emphasis on the value that

(04:03):
our appearances have on us and more looking at the
function I guess that our body has.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
We're so hyper aware of. But I now am so
neutral about it. I'm quite detached from it. It does
get me down every now and then. You can't avoid that,
But I think really helpful things go and point it
out in other people. Sometimes you think you're being helpful
or like offering advice, I promise you they already know
and they're already looking for that advice. Pimple patches are

(04:31):
helpful if it's got a head on it. And in
terms of actually managing your acne, I find that if
I've got a head on a pimple, put a pimple
patch on it, don't pop it. It's really frickin tempting
to pick out your skin. I do it all the time.
I just picked so bad, Yeah, but it just leaves
me with more scarring to deal with. I also like
the Laroche Peze Efficla range, which is designed for blemish's blackheads.

(04:52):
Things like that, and I think as well, just curate
your Instagram feeds to be full of people that make
you feel good about yourself. So I love following like
Mattie Edwards, who we've had on in her bag before,
who posts about her acne and Xmira and her real
authentic skin.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Learning how to self validate changed my life. Growing up,
people called me pretty all the time, and then when
my skin started to break out, they stopped, and the silence,
mixed with hating what I saw in the mirror, destroyed
my self confidence. So I started making a conscious effort
to compliment myself, celebrate my winds and my strengths and
the things that I found beautiful about myself, even if
they were lies at the time, and after years of

(05:28):
practicing self validation, I took away the power of other
people's words and opinions of me. If you call me pretty, thanks,
I know. And if you call me ugly, it's like, okay, whatever,
I don't think so, of course I still like receiving compliments.
They're always going to be nice, but I don't need
them because nobody's opinion of me will ever hold more
weight than my own.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I think just making sure that you're seeing real skin
in your feed so that it becomes not a part
of your normal yeah, yeah, but yeah, I just wanted
to share at updown.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I love that. So I'm one hundred years late. But
I finally got my eyebrows eliminated.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
I was going to say, let's talk about these brows.
I was going in there right now.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Per finally did the damn thing, And it was actually
quite serendipitous because I was at your house and you
were like, oh, my brow, lady's got an appointment. There
is no room to back out of this. Yeah, she's
got it right now, she's got it right now. I'm
taking it, and my brows have never looked better. And
I'm so glad that I did this over getting feathering,
which was like pretty high up there really my consideration list. Yeah,

(06:31):
because I have a bunch of tattoos, I don't find
that process painful at all. So I was like, Oh,
I might go and just get my eyebrows tattooed. Basically,
the last time I had my eyebrows properly done, it
was so bad, Like I was in New York. The
holl LONG got was I went to go and get
my eyebrows threaded, speaking of taking eyebrows away, and this
chick gave me pencil thin eyebrows. I had just spent

(06:54):
four years reviving my eyebrows and they were in such
a good place. I just wanted them to be tidied up.
So after that, I swore off any brow related thing.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
The only thing I've had since then, which is like
almost a decade, is a tint. That is it. I
would just prefer to embrace my natural brow shape. But
when the brushing up kind of trend came in, I
was like, Oh, that's so beautiful. Looks so natural. But
I never thought that my eyebrows could really get that effect,

(07:22):
just because there are so many gaps and it's quite sparse.
But the thing about eyebrow lamination is it's the process
of straightening the brow. So imagine like a perm for
your brow, and it keeps them in the desired shape
in which they are brushed to during that process. So
for this we want it brushed up and really natural,
and it's perfect for people whose hair grows in different

(07:42):
directions or have gaps. And it lasts between six and
eight weeks, which is ideal.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
It lasts me that four eight weeks usually, and I
also get a soft lamination. It's the same thing as you.
Like I always go in and I say, I just
want a natural look. I don't want to have like
Burton Ernie situation.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Bert Ernie. I was thinking like John Howard, like sometimes
when I brushed them up. Now I'm like, whoa, yeah,
he's up on that dramatic.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
But it just means like I don't have to worry
about my brows wanting that it's done well.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
That's the thing, Like it really shaves off that ten
minutes off, just like sloweriness in the routine. Everything else
is quick. I can see it quick, base, quick, blush quick,
like even eyeshadow quick. You know you've got your thing
that you just do in two seconds, brows fortified. You
cannot rush the brows more often than not. I was
just messing it up. I looked back at my wedding
photos I posted some yesterday and like, fuck, what the

(08:32):
eyebrows are a bit caterpillar. I'm not gonna lie. But
it's because I've got used to this lamination look. And
I'm like, oh my god, why did I need to No, don't,
don't look at it. I'm really embarrassed. Now everyone's gonna
know what I'm saying it on a bloody national podcast.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
But what had you done to your brows and your
wedding day that you didn't I it.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Was like that Victoria Beckham like straight across look, which
was my preferred look, you know, and people.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Like they look, I'm looking right now.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
It's no way I'm ever gonna hate my dress. There's
no way I'm ever gonna hate my makeup. The brows
is something I can see myself being like whoa. That
was really a moment for me, you know. But anyway,
that's old news because I got these brows now. Baby.
After the thick brows came in, I was like, where'd
brows go from here. There's been so many evolutions of that,
like soap brow Now we've got lamination browse. For what
they are, there's a lot of stuff you can do

(09:15):
to them anyway. I want to talk about the aftercare
because obviously six to eight weeks sometimes that may seem
like too quick of a turnover for some people. I
think that's actually pretty good considering.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
I think that's good.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
The thing is, the aftercare is so easy, right. All
you have to do is not get them work for
twenty four hours and then get that cast oil baby on,
a little spooil, a little spoolly, brush it on through when.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
You're going to bed.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
I do in the morning and night.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
I do too, Like I really lather it up before bed.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh yeah, I lather it up all the time. Look shining,
but I'm like, I don't care. My browth need to
be hydrated.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
YEA makes them it's a chemical process, so it makes
them dry exactly.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Just think about like if you ever knew someone who
got a perm in like the eighties, krusty Yeah, you
have to like cardrate it right anyway, I love it.
I really recommend it. It's an easy thing to try
that has low risks. If you hate it, it's going
to be gone in six day weeks.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
And my number one tip when getting any beauty thing
is take a reference photo because we all have different
ideas of what a natural lamination looks like.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yes, she said, do you want loose's brows? And I said, yes,
I do. I don't have that much hair, but yeah,
that's what I want the best product when I should
have saved my money budget.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Let's talk about our picks of the week. You know
I love Nudsticks brand, So the Nudesticks Nude Beach Eye Palette.
It's limited edition. I'm sorry but they will have variations
of this beyond this edition. But it's six crayons and
they're all inspired like earthy tones. And what I love
about Nude Sticks is that they're so easy to apply.

(10:49):
This is really begin a friendly makeup. So the tones
of these as like a champagne. There's a rich burgundy,
there's different shades of warm browns, and then a more
purlscent kind of one. And you can honestly just go
for your life. Draw onto your eyes like with a crayon.
Draw it on, use your finger to buffet out, use
a brush and I had been doing this on my

(11:10):
eyes and got so many compliments, and I was like,
I haven't even really been doing anything different, and then
I realized that I was using this palette. So you
can either use like one of the champagnee colors all
over the lid and then add like one of the
brown colors around the outer corner of your eye under
your eye smudge it out. But Nudsticks, what I love
most is the color payoff and the lasting power because

(11:31):
sometimes I find that cream I shadowed products, I have
to set them with a powder to really make them last.
But this is their whole thing is cream products and
cream products done really well. So it's one hundred and
twenty dollars six pencils, and you get a sharpener in
there as well. It's about twenty dollars a pencil. But
also if you look at this palette and you go
there are some shades in here, I know I won't use.
Nude Sticks has different variations where they have like three pencils.

(11:54):
You can buy individual pencils, so pick the colors that
you like and make your own palette. But I'm just
obsessed with this at the moment. I think it's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I launch.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I mean to try this now.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Sorry, tell me about your pick.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
So this is a bit random, but the smash Box
lip pencil, it's called smash Box b Legendary Line and
Prime pencil. What I love about it is I don't
know what they've done to this formulation, but it is
so yummy. And all I do is I put a
lip treatment on. I use the lineese one yeah, and
then I put this over the top. And the color
that I've been using is medium brown. It's just like

(12:27):
for my skin tone, is the perfect perfect color. And
what I like about it is that you can blur
it out, but the formulation is so good that it
feels like a lipstick, like you don't need anything else.
The colors, the pigment of formulation is so good. I'm
looking on mecha. They have ten shades. The medium brown
is out of stock because it's so bloody good, that

(12:48):
is why. But honestly, forty bucks, it's so good to
add dimension. You can build it up. It's enriched with
a smash Box primer oil complex, so that's why it
has that kind of comfy, sticky feeling. Yeah, lipsticky feeling,
but also really long wearing. It really lasts like I've
had it this morning. I've eaten a banana and apple,
I've had a thing of sparkling water and it's still there.

(13:09):
But I just love it because it's so easy to
apply and like move around and then you're dumb. Well
that seems like a pretty good note.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Dan and the show on.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Thank you so much Ubis for tuning in today.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
We've had the best time. We really have.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
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Speaker 4 (13:32):
For you, obviously. The producer of You Beauty is Cassie Merrow,
with audio editing by Lou Hill. I'm going to see
you tomorrow. Well actually i'm not. You're going to hear
me tomorrow and in her bag.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Well in my ears.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Where I interview someone in the beauty space. Is it
makeup back? I can't tell you.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Listen, yes, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
All right, I'll see you then.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Bye bye.
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