May 4, 2025 • 18 mins
In this week's Q&A episode, Leigh and Kelly tackle a beauty question on a topic they've never covered on the show before: hair extensions. They cover everything from tape-ins and weaves to clip-ins and halos, plus everything else you need to consider when looking at your options - think of this as your hair extensions 101 bible.
And for anyone feeling the pressure of nailing the perfect morning routine, Kelly has an 'anti-hack' about the crazy social media 'morning shed' trend that nobody actually needs. Thank us later.
LINKS TO PRODUCTS MENTIONED:
Extensions solutions:
Medusa clip-in extensions $120
Angel Hair Extensions from approx $110
Type Bea Overnight Boosting Peptide Hair Serum $80
Brow Products:
Benefit Precisely My Brow Detailer $42
Mecca Max Brow Guru Micromatic pencil $20
CoverGirl Clean Fresh Brow Nano Pencil $22
e.l.f Ultra Precise Brow Pencil $15
e.l.f Holy Strokes Microfine brow pen $18
Revolution Hair Stroke Brow Pen $12
Anastasia Beverly Hills Dipbrow Pomade $38
Maybelline Tattoo Brow Pomade Pot $24
Magnifying Mirrors:
Magnifying Makeup Mirror, Double Sided $33
Embellir Makeup Mirror LED Light Round $77
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
On Makeup is my Therapy.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Guilty a body.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for
Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran. Your face
it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Have you noticed, like we discussed last Monday, I've got
a nice plum blush on your hair?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Is your natural wave? Are we going to talk about that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Listen, I still had to tame it a fair bit
because otherwise it was a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I can't believe in seven years of doing this with you,
I've never seen it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You have, and every time I leave it natural, you go,
oh you never.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We're neutral.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You should because often enough enough yet for you to remember,
because you do have the memory of a goldfish. Well,
we don't have a question today about waves, but we
do have a good hair one. But what do we
do on Monday?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, exactly in case eyone else's a goldfish and forgets
what we do on Mondays? We answer your questions and
we've got two fantastic questions today. Later on in the episode,
we've got one about feeling an Eyebrowser's actually like, you know,
one of those questions that makes goo.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh yeah, just one of those things that we say
all the time. But yeah, I couldn't help. But wonder
ask me anything.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You ask many questions. But first up, we've got a
question about hair from Suzanne.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm seeking some urgent advice before I spend big hair extensions.
What is the feedback from the girls at you Beauty?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
No, Which are the best? I don't want them for length,
but I want them to thicken my hair up. I
have fine hair, and as I am getting older, it's
not getting any better. Before I cut it short, I
was thinking of extensions, but I don't know where to start.
Which ones are the best and most natural, which would
require the least amount of maintenance, or are they all
the same?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Please help?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I have no idea where to start, as there is
so much information online and they all conflict each other's
client sinks.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, Susan, we can both help. Kelly had extensions until recently,
and in my late twenties, I had a long period
of extensions. Back then. It was kind of like I
had tape in, so it's like literally a couple of
centimeters and they use like a really fancy hardcore glue
and like tape it in the back and around your crs.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Just straighten it to kind of like press it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Like heat it. H And then what's the other one
when it's that bond? So what did you have?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I had weaves, which we're going to get too, because
I do think it's the superior or well, well, Susan,
you say you have fine hair and you want it
for volume, I'm going to recommend just clip in.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I've got a few things to tell you about. But
any form of hair extension that's sort of permanently put
in your hair will make your hair fall out. Not
all of it, but it's tension on the scalp, tension
on the hair. Some are better than others. The maintenance
is you have to have them removed and moved up
or whatever, so it's expensive and time consuming. It's also
a massive ball ach to wash. I find. I had
(03:08):
tape ins, which I found okay, took a long time
to heat style. But then one summer I was dating
this news surfer and I was like, yeah, I was
like swimming all week in the ocean, didn't wash my hair.
I got such a madded mess that it took them
eight hours to try and get them out. Oh my.
So look, if I were to ever get hair extensions
in my hair again, I would get tape in. But
(03:28):
my recommendation for you is clip in. I've got a
friend my age so early ish forties. She's got fine hair,
not a huge amount of it, but it's fine for
like every day or whatever. And then she's on the
telly and she just does a row or they do,
and she puts them in herself. Now a roll or
two of clip in just at the back, so you
like do a half up, half down clip clip clip.
You can go to the hair dress and get them
(03:49):
to cut it into your hair the length you want.
You buy the color of your hair, and she just
wears them if she's going out to dinner or going
to work or whatever, and then you can take them out,
wash them style and when they're not in your hair.
Medusa is a brand that does really good clip ins,
and also there's a brand that does pretty much everything,
Angel hair extensions. They do tapes, clipins, halos, wefts.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Halos is so easy.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I've never done a halo. Should I do a halo?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
It's just like the whole extension is then attached to
fishing wire.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Type kind of like a two pay, but not literally
it is.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's an opposite of a two paid because it goes
down your back instead of like on your forehead, and
you just lift up your hair and then you place
it on and then you sort of just comb the
rest of your hair over the top. Yes, and yes,
if you look closer, you can see the wire, but
you have to be looking so close.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's why I like the clip ins because they really
kind of get in and you clip it in like
and then snap it sharp like a hair clip. Surprisingly,
and they're pretty like. I used to wear them back
in the day as well, and you could go on
dance flor and whatever, and I just loved it that
I could take them out. You know, I would recommend
you go for human hair, ethically sourced human hair, because
there's plastic ones that you can get from like TMO,
(04:56):
but they look like plastic hair and then you can
care for it when it's not on your head. That's
my recommendation over to you. Firstly, I would say.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
To go back and listen to last Monday's episode, where
Lee had some fantast stick recommendations on actually like getting
your hair to thicken up and more hair so true
growth serums like the type B one that made me
have to get my fore head repreaded.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Because literally, because you're so hair grew so much hair.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Because the thing is is that, I mean, I don't
know how thin your hair is, but if it's really thin,
then you will struggle a little bit with extensions because
you'll actually be able to see them.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, especially if you want to put your hair up,
and yeah, it's tricky.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
So I will always be a huge fan and suggest weaves. However,
if your hair is super fine, you probably can't get
a weave because you would be able to sort of
see the bump.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yes, so can you talk us through a weave? Is
that where they stitch it to your head?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So what they'll do is they'll either put one, two,
or three, depending on your needs.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I would never do three.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's way too much, tiny tiny, tiny little corn rows
basically on your scalp. And then they get the hair,
they'll much it to like talk to you about the thickness,
and that means how many wats they're going to put
and they'll match the color, and then they actually stitch
that into the corn room, which feels at the time
like they're stitching it into your scalp. It is quite uncomfortable,
(06:18):
and it's very tight to the first time you get
it out.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It so is everything else because they want to get
it so close to the root as they can so
that you get maximum growth before you need to have
them moved back up.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
The reason I'm such a fan of a weave over
other forms of hair extensions is that it's more affordable.
I know that that other types of hair extensions can
be upwards of a thousand dollars easily. It doesn't take
much time at all. They can put it in in
under an hour, like it's thick. Yeah, And even when
(06:47):
you have to get it tightened, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's half an hour.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's only damaging your hair in the two points where
the braid is actually sort of anchored. Great, it's not
damaging your.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Hair everywhere else. Because of that, it's really easy.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
It's not hard to wash, it's not hard to maintain
because it's just that one part of your scalp that's affected.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That sounds really good. Yeah, wish I'd tried those back
in the day. Yeah, so we eve if you want
permanent or clip in if you want, you know, come
and go vibe.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Or like asking the you beuty Facebook group because the
problem is is that I've got a lot of hair.
So if you do have that really fine hair, asking
the you beauty Facebook group because I know a lot
of people that do have more fine hair that found
the bonds or the.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Tapes yeaheah a lot more.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, maybe you could just start with clipping. See how
you feel like if you like the look, yeah, because
you know it does feel like there's something in your
hair on your scout. Make sure you don't hate the
feeling before, you know, commit to something that's permanently there
for six to eight weeks or whatever, and you have
to have it moved up exactly. Good luck. That was
a good question. We haven't had extensions for a long
time now. Coming up after the break a DM about brows.
(07:55):
So if you're not sure about the best brow practice,
stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Truna has sent us a DM, Ladies, I need to
ask a silly question, no such thing, no such what
exactly does feeling in my eyebrows mean? I currently use
a pencil and just color in the patches like a crayon.
Is that right? Is a pencil best? Or are there
methods I should try? I feel like it looks like
a big block, not like real eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
This question is so good.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Isn't it funny how you say things when we're in
this industry, Like a mechanic might be like, oh, something
about the cars, or when people that watch sport watch sport,
they go, oh to love and from that mean forward
pass and you're like what and oh, did you feel
any brows like that? Or oh, make sure you put
that in your crease, that'd be nice, Like we say
(08:46):
something lingo, things that would make no sense. So true,
and it's not a silly question. It's so true.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And for a long time it was sort of just
like whack it on. I mean sometimes I still do that.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So well.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I've said here in the notes, but I haven't looked
at Kelly's notes that you're probably gonna rave about benefit
of course, all right, well will you do that first?
And I've brought non benefit products because you're a bushy bitch.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm so bushy.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I've got very patchy eyebrows getting patchier as I ate,
So I think that she's probably more on my level.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
When I think of filling in my brows, as I'm
very bushy, but there are some areas of my brows
where perhaps it's more sparse the hairs than other areas,
and it also just makes it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
All look a lot more uniform.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Benefit has a whole bunch like they've got super super
super fine pencil that's like you know, that kind of
waxy pencil, or they've even got like the textory ones.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They've got so many.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And the three prong kind of microblading copy type vibe.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But my all time favorite is the precisely my brow detailer.
So I have first up, which is what people It's
like a little tiny tiny pencil, not even like a needle. Yeah,
it's not even a pencil though. It's like a gel pencil.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Hybrid yes, and it's so fine yes.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And then the other end has a spoolly so fully.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Is like one of those tiny, tiny, tiny mascara brushes
with no scar on exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
So I'll brush up my brows and just make sure
that they're all all of the hairs because I'm bushy.
Go in the same direction, and then I have a
look where I need a little bit more depth, like
if there's some areas that don't have as much hair,
and I'll run it through there lightly like a council,
like just like using fine little feathery motions as if
(10:31):
i'm coloring in, basically literally as if I'm coloring in, okay,
and then really lightly I'll sort of define some of
the edges a little bit so that it looks more
of a shape of a shape rather than just like
a hairy blob or sitting on my face. And then
I use the brush again just to make sure that
there's no harsh lines.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I do the same with that bit before I recommend
some products. I am okay filling in my brows. They
look good. But when I was recently away, one of
my best friends is a makeup art of She lives
in Paris. When I go there, I make her do
makeup every night. She filled in my brows because I've
got you know, decent brow and then really patchy, so
she's like a really really dark round on the patchy
bits on the outside and where it needed a little
(11:15):
bit of filly in closer to the inner corner of
the eye. She used like a medium brown because visually,
if it's too dark, your eyes will look closer together
and you look angry.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And no one's natural eyebrow would be the exact same
color the whole way.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But I remember back in the day when we did
that really angular first bit. It was just not good.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I never did that at the Kardashian brow.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Oh my god, I've got to show you photos. I
look like a lego. It was so bad. So if
you want to get that advance, you can use different colors.
I don't bother doing it at home, but some that
I love and I do the same as cal And
if I were you, I'd practice on the back of
your hand, just like stroke stroke like like pretend you're
drawing carestroke coloring in. But I think coloring in like
maybe because I've got a five year old coloring in
(11:54):
like em like, just.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Like coloring in neatly a tiny little area.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But you also maybe want to leave the tiniest cap,
you know, not a block color. Anyway, you're gonna have
to play around. Try it on the back of hand
before you do any brows. My recommendations are the Mecha
Max Brow Guru, Micromatic, pencil. This has got one of
the finest points I've ever seen. Twenty dollars. If you
can go in store and get shade matched, unless you're
(12:19):
pretty confident what you are, because there's you know, warm brown,
cool brown, and often brunettes like a light brown, not
a b in anyway, it's hard. The Cover Girl Clean
Fresh Brow nanopencil again, that is super fine. You get
that a price lign It's about twenty bucks. One I've
been using a lot I have with me today because
I often rub my face and have to touch up
my brows is the Elf Ultra Precise brow pencil. They're
(12:41):
fifteen dollars. You could also try, which I've had quite
a lot of luck with, is like a felt like
a it's a brow pen like think of a liquid
eye liner, but it's for your brows. I love the
Holy Strokes Microfine browpen by Elf Cosmetics. That's eighteen dollars.
Another good one, particularly if you want to practice, is
from Chemist to our House. You know that brand W
(13:02):
seven Sharp brow It's called it's like a feltpen in brunette.
It's four dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I know, four dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I know. Another one I love because I love Revolution
Beauty is the Revolution hairstroke browpen. Again similar really fine
pigmented pen like a liquid eyeliner, but you just do hairstrokes.
Then another option, if you're worried about depth or you know,
want it to really stay, it's got a super super
super fine angled brush and use a pomard. So the
(13:31):
Anastasia Beverly Hills dip brow pomarde is great and does
not go anywhere, and it kind of gives you more
opaqueness than the others. And then also a cheaper version
is the Mabe Lene Tattoo brow pomarde. Pot same vibe
and yeah, pop it in and then brush your brows
up and out again, just to kind of unify the
color of the product you've used and your own brow
(13:52):
so it looks kind of a bit more uniform. That's
what I do anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
It was such a good question, though very hard to
We need to talk mis to a video today straight
because I.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Was like, I just good Bubba bu, But then I
was like, what is bubba interesting? Huh?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
After the break host Tax Host Tax and Lee, Oh gosh,
I hate her hack.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Excuse me, it's life changing in a good and bad way.
What you makeup hacks. Okay, so mine is it's not
for your pause and I.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Know, but I just don't ever want to see myself.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
That close, Kelly. So it's to get a magnifying mirror.
Not groundbreaking, I know, not quite as groundbreaking as getting
a bobby pin. But those magnifying mirrors you can get
absolutely everywhere. It's on a stand, you flip it over.
One side's normal, the other sides like ten times magnified aggressive.
You get them from Mayer, you get them from Amazon,
you get them everywhere. So recently someone I love has
(14:52):
been in hospital. I've been there every day and they
had one with them. Hilariously.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's what day, yeah, to take to the hospital the
ambulance package. She said, I need my big magnifying mirror
to get a chin hairs. Oh a fear fair fair. Yeah.
So I started using a beautiful natural light in the
afternoon in the hospital and I was just smoking around,
you know, wasting hours, and I was plucking, plucking, and
then I was like, I want to do my makeup.
I was so precise with my makeup, maybe because my
(15:19):
eyesight's going a bit. When I then when I looked
in the regular mirror. It looked like I'd been airbrushed
because I could see every little like it was fun
to do.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Really, I just feel like looking at myself that closely
would not be good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It will look at the start, I was like, oh
my god, that poor Oh my god, that hair, Oh
my god. That But you know, to do your makeup
more so obviously for plucking and whatever, but don't get
picking in those things because you're going to pick it
a microscopic thing because you think it's massive. But to
do your makeup or even just to finish your makeup,
I literally just loved it. Now I do it at
home all the time, natural light and magnifying mirror, just
(15:54):
to really make sure your preciseness is on point. Okay,
I haven't done it today. Can you tell I just
love it? What about you?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I've got an anti hack.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I love these ones an.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Anti hack, so I don't about uli, but my algorithm
is full of join me from my morning shed it
is what the hell?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I just I don't even watch them. Can you tell
me what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
So, just if you've never seen this type of content before,
lucky you. It's just so silly, so It's basically someone
comes on camera and they say, do my morning shed,
and they're literally shedding layers. So they'll have the curling
things in their hair with then a bonnet over the
top their face. They do the face taping everywhere, and
(16:42):
then there's this.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Overnight thick sheet masky things you can do.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, yeah, then they'll put the overnight thick sheet mask
on their face, or they tape their.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Mouth as well.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I feel suffocated, yes, then they do like chest ones,
they wrap their tummy. Yes, they put all of these
different devices like rap no crap. Basically I feel really chastrophobic.
And then what's it meant to do nothing at the
end of the day. The actual difference would be so insignificant,
(17:12):
and no scientist has actually came out with any sort
of reputable dart.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Why don't they just throw serumon moisturize at a.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Bit literally okay, because that doesn't make good content.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So it is stupid and unnecessary and you do not
need to do it. Please don't think that any regular
person needs to do a shed.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Who has time to do that at night and in
the morning? And how would you sleep with gun coin?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And I love it?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
People ask these questions and then they go, well, I
do have time. I make the time because I aprioritize it.
And it's like you're a full time content creator, so
this was part of your workday making that video. Average
people do not have forty minutes to apply shed.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I feel too suffocated if I've got too much things,
ye stuff on my face.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And also I don't actually think I reckon. Ninety percent
of the people aren't actually doing.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It right the way they're putting it on in the morning,
and they're filming.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Because it is good for shock value on social media.
You have to do those sorts of things to get views.
If they were sleeping it, they would be smashing the
zannies because absolutely sleep.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
No way could anyone sleep like so I.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Get the night sweats speaking of all those players. But look,
if you do it, good luck to you. But if
you feel the pressure of waste forty minutes either side
of your day and night, don't don't begred. We're not
doing it.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Because it's really not going to make that big of
a difference at the end of the day, and it's
encouraging over consumption and it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Totally on that note, Thank you for listening. Don't forget
we love receiving your questions. Our Instagram account is at
you Beauty Podcast. You can hit us up with a
DM a voice note there if you want, and we
will include in the show.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
This episode of You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood
with audio production by Teagan Sadler.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Bye Bye,
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
On Makeup is my Therapy.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Guilty a body.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for
Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran. Your face
it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Have you noticed, like we discussed last Monday, I've got
a nice plum blush on your hair?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Is your natural wave? Are we going to talk about that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Listen, I still had to tame it a fair bit
because otherwise it was a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I can't believe in seven years of doing this with you,
I've never seen it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You have, and every time I leave it natural, you go,
oh you never.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We're neutral.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You should because often enough enough yet for you to remember,
because you do have the memory of a goldfish. Well,
we don't have a question today about waves, but we
do have a good hair one. But what do we
do on Monday?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, exactly in case eyone else's a goldfish and forgets
what we do on Mondays? We answer your questions and
we've got two fantastic questions today. Later on in the episode,
we've got one about feeling an Eyebrowser's actually like, you know,
one of those questions that makes goo.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh yeah, just one of those things that we say
all the time. But yeah, I couldn't help. But wonder
ask me anything.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You ask many questions. But first up, we've got a
question about hair from Suzanne.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm seeking some urgent advice before I spend big hair extensions.
What is the feedback from the girls at you Beauty?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
No, Which are the best? I don't want them for length,
but I want them to thicken my hair up. I
have fine hair, and as I am getting older, it's
not getting any better. Before I cut it short, I
was thinking of extensions, but I don't know where to start.
Which ones are the best and most natural, which would
require the least amount of maintenance, or are they all
the same?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Please help?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I have no idea where to start, as there is
so much information online and they all conflict each other's
client sinks.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, Susan, we can both help. Kelly had extensions until recently,
and in my late twenties, I had a long period
of extensions. Back then. It was kind of like I
had tape in, so it's like literally a couple of
centimeters and they use like a really fancy hardcore glue
and like tape it in the back and around your crs.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Just straighten it to kind of like press it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Like heat it. H And then what's the other one
when it's that bond? So what did you have?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I had weaves, which we're going to get too, because
I do think it's the superior or well, well, Susan,
you say you have fine hair and you want it
for volume, I'm going to recommend just clip in.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I've got a few things to tell you about. But
any form of hair extension that's sort of permanently put
in your hair will make your hair fall out. Not
all of it, but it's tension on the scalp, tension
on the hair. Some are better than others. The maintenance
is you have to have them removed and moved up
or whatever, so it's expensive and time consuming. It's also
a massive ball ach to wash. I find. I had
(03:08):
tape ins, which I found okay, took a long time
to heat style. But then one summer I was dating
this news surfer and I was like, yeah, I was
like swimming all week in the ocean, didn't wash my hair.
I got such a madded mess that it took them
eight hours to try and get them out. Oh my.
So look, if I were to ever get hair extensions
in my hair again, I would get tape in. But
(03:28):
my recommendation for you is clip in. I've got a
friend my age so early ish forties. She's got fine hair,
not a huge amount of it, but it's fine for
like every day or whatever. And then she's on the
telly and she just does a row or they do,
and she puts them in herself. Now a roll or
two of clip in just at the back, so you
like do a half up, half down clip clip clip.
You can go to the hair dress and get them
(03:49):
to cut it into your hair the length you want.
You buy the color of your hair, and she just
wears them if she's going out to dinner or going
to work or whatever, and then you can take them out,
wash them style and when they're not in your hair.
Medusa is a brand that does really good clip ins,
and also there's a brand that does pretty much everything,
Angel hair extensions. They do tapes, clipins, halos, wefts.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Halos is so easy.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I've never done a halo. Should I do a halo?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
It's just like the whole extension is then attached to
fishing wire.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Type kind of like a two pay, but not literally
it is.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's an opposite of a two paid because it goes
down your back instead of like on your forehead, and
you just lift up your hair and then you place
it on and then you sort of just comb the
rest of your hair over the top. Yes, and yes,
if you look closer, you can see the wire, but
you have to be looking so close.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's why I like the clip ins because they really
kind of get in and you clip it in like
and then snap it sharp like a hair clip. Surprisingly,
and they're pretty like. I used to wear them back
in the day as well, and you could go on
dance flor and whatever, and I just loved it that
I could take them out. You know, I would recommend
you go for human hair, ethically sourced human hair, because
there's plastic ones that you can get from like TMO,
(04:56):
but they look like plastic hair and then you can
care for it when it's not on your head. That's
my recommendation over to you. Firstly, I would say.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
To go back and listen to last Monday's episode, where
Lee had some fantast stick recommendations on actually like getting
your hair to thicken up and more hair so true
growth serums like the type B one that made me
have to get my fore head repreaded.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Because literally, because you're so hair grew so much hair.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Because the thing is is that, I mean, I don't
know how thin your hair is, but if it's really thin,
then you will struggle a little bit with extensions because
you'll actually be able to see them.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, especially if you want to put your hair up,
and yeah, it's tricky.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
So I will always be a huge fan and suggest weaves. However,
if your hair is super fine, you probably can't get
a weave because you would be able to sort of
see the bump.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yes, so can you talk us through a weave? Is
that where they stitch it to your head?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So what they'll do is they'll either put one, two,
or three, depending on your needs.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I would never do three.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's way too much, tiny tiny, tiny little corn rows
basically on your scalp. And then they get the hair,
they'll much it to like talk to you about the thickness,
and that means how many wats they're going to put
and they'll match the color, and then they actually stitch
that into the corn room, which feels at the time
like they're stitching it into your scalp. It is quite uncomfortable,
(06:18):
and it's very tight to the first time you get
it out.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It so is everything else because they want to get
it so close to the root as they can so
that you get maximum growth before you need to have
them moved back up.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
The reason I'm such a fan of a weave over
other forms of hair extensions is that it's more affordable.
I know that that other types of hair extensions can
be upwards of a thousand dollars easily. It doesn't take
much time at all. They can put it in in
under an hour, like it's thick. Yeah, And even when
(06:47):
you have to get it tightened, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's half an hour.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's only damaging your hair in the two points where
the braid is actually sort of anchored. Great, it's not
damaging your.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Hair everywhere else. Because of that, it's really easy.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
It's not hard to wash, it's not hard to maintain
because it's just that one part of your scalp that's affected.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That sounds really good. Yeah, wish I'd tried those back
in the day. Yeah, so we eve if you want
permanent or clip in if you want, you know, come
and go vibe.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Or like asking the you beuty Facebook group because the
problem is is that I've got a lot of hair.
So if you do have that really fine hair, asking
the you beauty Facebook group because I know a lot
of people that do have more fine hair that found
the bonds or the.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Tapes yeaheah a lot more.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, maybe you could just start with clipping. See how
you feel like if you like the look, yeah, because
you know it does feel like there's something in your
hair on your scout. Make sure you don't hate the
feeling before, you know, commit to something that's permanently there
for six to eight weeks or whatever, and you have
to have it moved up exactly. Good luck. That was
a good question. We haven't had extensions for a long
time now. Coming up after the break a DM about brows.
(07:55):
So if you're not sure about the best brow practice,
stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Truna has sent us a DM, Ladies, I need to
ask a silly question, no such thing, no such what
exactly does feeling in my eyebrows mean? I currently use
a pencil and just color in the patches like a crayon.
Is that right? Is a pencil best? Or are there
methods I should try? I feel like it looks like
a big block, not like real eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
This question is so good.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Isn't it funny how you say things when we're in
this industry, Like a mechanic might be like, oh, something
about the cars, or when people that watch sport watch sport,
they go, oh to love and from that mean forward
pass and you're like what and oh, did you feel
any brows like that? Or oh, make sure you put
that in your crease, that'd be nice, Like we say
(08:46):
something lingo, things that would make no sense. So true,
and it's not a silly question. It's so true.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And for a long time it was sort of just
like whack it on. I mean sometimes I still do that.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So well.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I've said here in the notes, but I haven't looked
at Kelly's notes that you're probably gonna rave about benefit
of course, all right, well will you do that first?
And I've brought non benefit products because you're a bushy bitch.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm so bushy.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I've got very patchy eyebrows getting patchier as I ate,
So I think that she's probably more on my level.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
When I think of filling in my brows, as I'm
very bushy, but there are some areas of my brows
where perhaps it's more sparse the hairs than other areas,
and it also just makes it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
All look a lot more uniform.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Benefit has a whole bunch like they've got super super
super fine pencil that's like you know, that kind of
waxy pencil, or they've even got like the textory ones.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They've got so many.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And the three prong kind of microblading copy type vibe.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But my all time favorite is the precisely my brow detailer.
So I have first up, which is what people It's
like a little tiny tiny pencil, not even like a needle. Yeah,
it's not even a pencil though. It's like a gel pencil.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Hybrid yes, and it's so fine yes.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And then the other end has a spoolly so fully.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Is like one of those tiny, tiny, tiny mascara brushes
with no scar on exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
So I'll brush up my brows and just make sure
that they're all all of the hairs because I'm bushy.
Go in the same direction, and then I have a
look where I need a little bit more depth, like
if there's some areas that don't have as much hair,
and I'll run it through there lightly like a council,
like just like using fine little feathery motions as if
(10:31):
i'm coloring in, basically literally as if I'm coloring in, okay,
and then really lightly I'll sort of define some of
the edges a little bit so that it looks more
of a shape of a shape rather than just like
a hairy blob or sitting on my face. And then
I use the brush again just to make sure that
there's no harsh lines.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I do the same with that bit before I recommend
some products. I am okay filling in my brows. They
look good. But when I was recently away, one of
my best friends is a makeup art of She lives
in Paris. When I go there, I make her do
makeup every night. She filled in my brows because I've
got you know, decent brow and then really patchy, so
she's like a really really dark round on the patchy
bits on the outside and where it needed a little
(11:15):
bit of filly in closer to the inner corner of
the eye. She used like a medium brown because visually,
if it's too dark, your eyes will look closer together
and you look angry.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And no one's natural eyebrow would be the exact same
color the whole way.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But I remember back in the day when we did
that really angular first bit. It was just not good.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I never did that at the Kardashian brow.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Oh my god, I've got to show you photos. I
look like a lego. It was so bad. So if
you want to get that advance, you can use different colors.
I don't bother doing it at home, but some that
I love and I do the same as cal And
if I were you, I'd practice on the back of
your hand, just like stroke stroke like like pretend you're
drawing carestroke coloring in. But I think coloring in like
maybe because I've got a five year old coloring in
(11:54):
like em like, just.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Like coloring in neatly a tiny little area.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But you also maybe want to leave the tiniest cap,
you know, not a block color. Anyway, you're gonna have
to play around. Try it on the back of hand
before you do any brows. My recommendations are the Mecha
Max Brow Guru, Micromatic, pencil. This has got one of
the finest points I've ever seen. Twenty dollars. If you
can go in store and get shade matched, unless you're
(12:19):
pretty confident what you are, because there's you know, warm brown,
cool brown, and often brunettes like a light brown, not
a b in anyway, it's hard. The Cover Girl Clean
Fresh Brow nanopencil again, that is super fine. You get
that a price lign It's about twenty bucks. One I've
been using a lot I have with me today because
I often rub my face and have to touch up
my brows is the Elf Ultra Precise brow pencil. They're
(12:41):
fifteen dollars. You could also try, which I've had quite
a lot of luck with, is like a felt like
a it's a brow pen like think of a liquid
eye liner, but it's for your brows. I love the
Holy Strokes Microfine browpen by Elf Cosmetics. That's eighteen dollars.
Another good one, particularly if you want to practice, is
from Chemist to our House. You know that brand W
(13:02):
seven Sharp brow It's called it's like a feltpen in brunette.
It's four dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I know, four dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I know. Another one I love because I love Revolution
Beauty is the Revolution hairstroke browpen. Again similar really fine
pigmented pen like a liquid eyeliner, but you just do hairstrokes.
Then another option, if you're worried about depth or you know,
want it to really stay, it's got a super super
super fine angled brush and use a pomard. So the
(13:31):
Anastasia Beverly Hills dip brow pomarde is great and does
not go anywhere, and it kind of gives you more
opaqueness than the others. And then also a cheaper version
is the Mabe Lene Tattoo brow pomarde. Pot same vibe
and yeah, pop it in and then brush your brows
up and out again, just to kind of unify the
color of the product you've used and your own brow
(13:52):
so it looks kind of a bit more uniform. That's
what I do anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
It was such a good question, though very hard to
We need to talk mis to a video today straight
because I.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Was like, I just good Bubba bu, But then I
was like, what is bubba interesting? Huh?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
After the break host Tax Host Tax and Lee, Oh gosh,
I hate her hack.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Excuse me, it's life changing in a good and bad way.
What you makeup hacks. Okay, so mine is it's not
for your pause and I.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Know, but I just don't ever want to see myself.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
That close, Kelly. So it's to get a magnifying mirror.
Not groundbreaking, I know, not quite as groundbreaking as getting
a bobby pin. But those magnifying mirrors you can get
absolutely everywhere. It's on a stand, you flip it over.
One side's normal, the other sides like ten times magnified aggressive.
You get them from Mayer, you get them from Amazon,
you get them everywhere. So recently someone I love has
(14:52):
been in hospital. I've been there every day and they
had one with them. Hilariously.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's what day, yeah, to take to the hospital the
ambulance package. She said, I need my big magnifying mirror
to get a chin hairs. Oh a fear fair fair. Yeah.
So I started using a beautiful natural light in the
afternoon in the hospital and I was just smoking around,
you know, wasting hours, and I was plucking, plucking, and
then I was like, I want to do my makeup.
I was so precise with my makeup, maybe because my
(15:19):
eyesight's going a bit. When I then when I looked
in the regular mirror. It looked like I'd been airbrushed
because I could see every little like it was fun
to do.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Really, I just feel like looking at myself that closely
would not be good.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It will look at the start, I was like, oh
my god, that poor Oh my god, that hair, Oh
my god. That But you know, to do your makeup
more so obviously for plucking and whatever, but don't get
picking in those things because you're going to pick it
a microscopic thing because you think it's massive. But to
do your makeup or even just to finish your makeup,
I literally just loved it. Now I do it at
home all the time, natural light and magnifying mirror, just
(15:54):
to really make sure your preciseness is on point. Okay,
I haven't done it today. Can you tell I just
love it? What about you?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I've got an anti hack.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I love these ones an.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Anti hack, so I don't about uli, but my algorithm
is full of join me from my morning shed it
is what the hell?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I just I don't even watch them. Can you tell
me what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
So, just if you've never seen this type of content before,
lucky you. It's just so silly, so It's basically someone
comes on camera and they say, do my morning shed,
and they're literally shedding layers. So they'll have the curling
things in their hair with then a bonnet over the
top their face. They do the face taping everywhere, and
(16:42):
then there's this.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Overnight thick sheet masky things you can do.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, yeah, then they'll put the overnight thick sheet mask
on their face, or they tape their.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Mouth as well.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I feel suffocated, yes, then they do like chest ones,
they wrap their tummy. Yes, they put all of these
different devices like rap no crap. Basically I feel really chastrophobic.
And then what's it meant to do nothing at the
end of the day. The actual difference would be so insignificant,
(17:12):
and no scientist has actually came out with any sort
of reputable dart.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Why don't they just throw serumon moisturize at a.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Bit literally okay, because that doesn't make good content.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So it is stupid and unnecessary and you do not
need to do it. Please don't think that any regular
person needs to do a shed.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Who has time to do that at night and in
the morning? And how would you sleep with gun coin?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And I love it?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
People ask these questions and then they go, well, I
do have time. I make the time because I aprioritize it.
And it's like you're a full time content creator, so
this was part of your workday making that video. Average
people do not have forty minutes to apply shed.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I feel too suffocated if I've got too much things,
ye stuff on my face.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And also I don't actually think I reckon. Ninety percent
of the people aren't actually doing.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It right the way they're putting it on in the morning,
and they're filming.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Because it is good for shock value on social media.
You have to do those sorts of things to get views.
If they were sleeping it, they would be smashing the
zannies because absolutely sleep.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
No way could anyone sleep like so I.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Get the night sweats speaking of all those players. But look,
if you do it, good luck to you. But if
you feel the pressure of waste forty minutes either side
of your day and night, don't don't begred. We're not
doing it.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Because it's really not going to make that big of
a difference at the end of the day, and it's
encouraging over consumption and it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Totally on that note, Thank you for listening. Don't forget
we love receiving your questions. Our Instagram account is at
you Beauty Podcast. You can hit us up with a
DM a voice note there if you want, and we
will include in the show.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
This episode of You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood
with audio production by Teagan Sadler.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Bye Bye,
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