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May 11, 2025 • 15 mins

Ever dreamed of being a lady of leisure with an unlimited beauty budget? Kelly and Leigh certainly have... From daily hair styling and in-home masseurs to LED body beds and yearly "nips and tucks", they've got it all mapped out in preparation for their Lotto win.

Plus they've got all the answers for the change of season: how to switch up your products for winter; and genius hacks for combating cold-weather flakiness. 

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Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren

Producer: Mollie Harwood

Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Makeup is My Therapy.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it. Hello,
and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for Your Face.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
My name is Lee Campbell. I'm Kelly McCarron, and Lee
and I are both sitting here with a blue shirt on.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yours this blue and white stripe, and mine is a
baby blue and this is called an Oxford shirt.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
You know, both of them could have used denying.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I steamed mine this morning Sturday. I had annoying crinkly fabric.
That's like then you can't sit down anyway. Hey, this
is not nothing to where it's you, beauty. What do
we do every day?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
We do something different, but on Mondays we answer your
questions and you know what we are kicking things off
today with one of our favorite types of emergant's answer.
It is a pervy one. I couldn't help but wonder
asked me anything you ask any questions? So good?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So a lovely lady Rocky has DM d Reckon. It's
like Rochelle or like rock Sanne Rocks. Oh maybe her
name's just Rocky. This is so good. And when I
thought about it, I thought I didn't have an answer.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Now I've put a million.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
So the question is, if you were both ladies of
leisure with ample disposable income, what would your beauty treatment
schedule look like?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Hair, face, body, all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I play this game with my friends sometimes it is
so fun to dream. Omg okay, you.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Can kick Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, at first I was like, well, we're kind of
in the industry, like we do get a lot of
things for free if we want, you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
And then I was like, I really want anything.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
And then when I started thinking, boy, oh boy, I
need to become this version of Lee, which is win
fifty million dollars and obviously just quit all my jobs
because this is my full time job. Now, okay, I
want someone to come to my house to style my
hair every second day.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
They don't have to wash it.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I don't like getting my hair washed at the basin,
but I just want them to style a cool girl wave.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
What is the point of that? Yeah, you're not washing
your hair.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Wait, okay, So Adam Wintour has someone to come and
fix her bob and trim her fringe every morning at home.
I only want every second day. Then I want my
brow threader to come to my house. Basically everyone has
to come to me because I hate going places and
just when I need it, because sometimes my brows grow
fast and then slow, and then I just want to
be like, come now.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I'll turned into raw bossy bitch too.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I want a full at home LED body like the
Selarium type look vibe, but it's full LED with a
salon quality LED for face machine. Then I want a
fortnightly lymphatic drainage body massage, the really firm one where
they get in there and you just like what hurt me.

(02:51):
I want someone to come over or maybe because I'm
so rich they live somewhere in my house. They just
come and give me a fifteen minute neck massage before
I get into bed every night. I want to go
to a head spa once a month because I do
love like you know that Tokyo head spa. Yes. Birthday
back in March, three separate friends brought me a voucher
for their.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Can I have one?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, no, no, no, I want them, But my point
is getting your hair washed at the basin at the
headdress and that little massage is like a tease, like
I want a ninety yeah. So these they do like
a treatment like a scalp and neck massage and hair things.
So I'm having that once a month. Then I want
probably every three weeks a one hour, very firm facial massage.

(03:33):
But my money and petty at the same time, because
I hate going for money and petty, I would get
CO two laser, which is hectic laser. So I haven't
done it properly yet because of the cost and the
downtime in my real life because we're always filmed and
like it's thousands of dollars. But if I can just
hang out at home and drink wine while I'm healing, great,
if I'm going somewhere fancy. I want glam to come

(03:55):
to my house. But I want to lie down and
sleep like Kim Kardashian do dos I hate sitting in
the chair.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I'm not good enough sleeper.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, I just want to be raped. In this life
you are and last, but not least. I mean, all
of this is completely unrealistic. I want one of those
machines that were in the Jetsons, which was a cartoon
a little and they used to just walk through a
machine in their hair and makeup and outfit was done
in one second. That doesn't exist, But maybe I'm rich
enough to invent one.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah that's not much, No, not much at all. What's yours? Okay?
So I am the lady of leisure. I think I'd
been an excellent lady of leisure because I'm very good
at doing nothing. Oh so every morning I have a
very nice personal trainer. No that's not beauty, but okay, yeah,
me too. It is. It's like wellness, all right, yeah,

(04:39):
wellness lifestyle. Okay, So she meets me at a local park.
I have to walk like two minutes. In this life,
why can't she come to your backyard? Actually she can
because in this dream, man, I've got a big house
with a pool and such. Yeah, eight thirty am. So
I wake up at like eight fifteen. Okay, nice. Every
night before bed, I have a one hour massage and

(05:00):
messuse will come to the house. Lenny magically doesn't need
any assistance getting to bed, and I just have her
robbing me at least fIF Dean of that is a
head massage by itself, and foot too, focus on my feet, yep,
and then half an hour on my back and everything.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
What are you doing while she's doing that? Are you
listening to a podcast? Because I just find it so boring.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Well, because I'm a lady of leisure, I have a
lot more time to be zen. Oh okay, yeah, so
maybe I am meditating. Oh wow. When I'm in BALI
I can do nothing. Well, I have a massage every day,
So for me, I imagine that this me can just
do nothing. Oh great, I'm going to go to you know,
like the slow house like.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
That sort of also called a bath house, but like
a wellness Ye've got everything.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
So I go to one of those a couple of
times a week and do all of the magnesium pools
and the whole and the saunas and the spas and whatnot.
On Monday mornings, I get my hair washed and blowwaved
for the week. On Thursdays, I get my hair washed
and blow waved to the weekend, and I get a
tan yes that I don't have to marinate in. I

(06:03):
just magically am a bronzed goddess for the weekend.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Because you don't want to have to wash it off
and then you wear on your hair exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I have an elbody bet as well. And I also
get laser all over my body in winter, So the
lasers that people get on their face, I can afford
to get that all over my body. And I have
the skin of a porcelain doll. Ouch. Yeah, but like
it doesn't matter because I'm rich, I can afford to
good painkillers. I'm going to get my monthly needling, but

(06:29):
weekly facials, and I'm going to get six month injectibles,
but like really, you know, light touches because I'm going
to the best, the best, and then yeli nips and
tucks because I'm rich and fabulous, Like who knows what
I'm going to get whatever I need that year. I
forgot about my hair color.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
The person that comes in does my hair, just does
my roots whenever they notice.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yes, yes that's something that I do in my regular life.
And so I'm like, eh, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
But i still find it annoying to fit in and
stuff like I want. I'm a lady of leisure, but
I've got things to do, like I'm running a charity
and stuff things to still be efficient.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I don't have anything to do but always flawless. I'm
a lady of leisure that just is beautiful is donning?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Oh my god, I love it. That was the best
game I played. That game, like what would I do
if I win the lotto? And then when I've stopped daydreaming,
I get so sad because it's not real. Okay, coming
up after the break something much more realistic but.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Helpful, Hunt the Dream.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
A question about switching up your products between season and
how and why.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
We do that, so Joanna has asked killing Lee please
help with something that has always confused me. I know
we're supposed to switch products in winter and summer for
the different seasons, but why do you switch your products?
And if you do, which ones do you change? Excellent question, Joanna.

(07:48):
I mean you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's not a rule, and it depends on a lot
of things, like where you live, the temperature, the humidity,
your lifestyle. If you're inside a lot in winter and
you know there's a fire or heating, you know all
of that stuff. Generally, summer is hotter and more humid,
and so you might want more lightweight products. You might want,
you know, a foundation that's not as dewy whatever it is. Also,

(08:10):
Kelly and I are very different. She's dry skin. I'm
oily skin.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
You love winter because you get to play more with skincare.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I can do more layers in winter, but then my
body's dry and gross, and I still do bodycare, but
like it's annoying, but also you just wear jeans.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
So what do I switch up? I definitely use I
guess a bit more skincare in that I can do
another layer of serum or something in winter, whereas my
skin can really only take serum, a light way moisturizer
and sunscreen in the mornings in summer.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I never switch my hair care because of the seasons.
I don't think probably do more masks in winter, or
actually maybe more in summer.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I actually need to care for my hair more in
summer because of the swimming and all that sort of stuff.
I probably should. I mean, this is a lot of shoulds.
Exfoliate my body more and then do more juicy hydration
because if you are wearing you know, pants or stockings
and inside heating or fire or air coorn, you kind
of got a lot of dead skin to stick into
your legs. And I barely even shave my legs in

(09:05):
the winter. Very hairy right now, Yeah, I used to
switch my cleanses because I used to use it, you know,
more hardcore cleanser in summer. But now with my age
and just my skin liking it, I always just use
you know, I double cleans with like a balm and
then use my cellar water or a milky cleanser anyway,
so I don't need to change from summer to winter.
So no, I don't really. I probably just maybe use

(09:26):
a bit more dewy skin care and makeup in winter
when it's not as humid and fitzy.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
If you've nailed it, you don't have to. Like, it's
not a rule.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
And maybe if I, you know, I'm gradual tanning in summer,
I might have a different foundation shade. But I don't
really go out and always get two versions of my
favorite foundations. I might just use a bronzing drop or
warm it up with more bronzer. So I just maybe
little tweaks, not whole new products.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
What about you, Well, I think, as I'm a dry,
dehydrated girly, I don't change that much. But I do
notice that my skin definitely has more increased moisture needs
in winter. In winter because the cold air outside and
then the dry indoor heating, and when you're like swapping
between the two, it can really strip your skin. So

(10:13):
that's why I need thicker balms and creams and serums
to help and slugging lock everything in. I need a
lot more barrier protection because the harsh sort of climate
can weaken your skin and make it just flaky and yuck.
So I probably slug a lot more than usual, and
and I've got a recommendation in my host tag I

(10:34):
actually sometimes have to slug a little bit even in
the day. I definitely need a lot more lip care
in winter. That's such a good one. So whereas in summer,
I kind of just apply a lip bum before bed,
that's it, and then I'll just apply something during the day.
But I'll be wearing a lip in the winter. My lips.
If I crack the side of one, it's done for
the winter, and it's so painful, so I need to

(10:55):
be really careful. And that's pretty much it. I think
I probably just use a lot more thicker formulas.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, and layering, and you know generally, I mean, you
can get a cold in summer, but if you get
sick in winter and you your nose, you need you're.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Root off the red fleeting my goodness, dear nappy rush cream,
yeah that is yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Or you're sick of plass like anything that's kind of
really restorative and just like you've blown your nose, put
it on. You're gonna blow your nose again in five minutes,
but then just keep putting it on because it gets
red raw. I probably mostly notice this if I travel
from summer to a winter climate, because it's such an
you know, immediate change. You've been on a plane and
then your skin's like, ah, I'm so dry, but you're
usually you know, living where you live.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It happens gradually either way, so you can just make
little tweets.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Face mist always helps if you just need a bit
of an extra hydration, if you're a bit drier. I
can use more stuff like that in winter. So I
love winter, But.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Then dressing in winter is also more fun. Winter is
way better for everything. I know.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Ay, summer, well, I'm an ocean person. Oh I'm a
country person, but I.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Still swim in winter. But it's not as enjoyable as
it Oh that's awful, Okay, well it's anyway. Next up,
some clever uses for oil from Lea.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
What a.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
You macup packs? All right, well, I better go first.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Mine actually came from an ex Mamma Mer employee. She's
down in Melbourne and I've got a beauty brand that
has a body oil, and she's always buying the oil.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I love the smell how much.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I don't know why I said it like that, how
much you're going through the body oil. And she's like,
oh no, I use it as my makeup remover, as
my cleanser, and she uses it on a face, which
you absolutely can.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's just a lovely oil.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
But then I was listening to an episode with Erin
and m not long ago, and em was stuck in
a hotel and she'd forgotten her cleanser and she's like,
what do I do when she used the hand soap,
and Aeron was like, you use the moisturizer before you
use the hand soap, like a cold cream. Anyway, you
can use a body oil. You can even use your
kitchen olive oil. Yuck.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
You would smell like you're cooking something.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Listen as a makeup remover, like your first clean okay,
but if you're also stuck in the middle of a hotel,
I guess not in the middle of the desert.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
My point is a lot of oils are just oils,
you know.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, a lot of people I know have olive oil
or coconut oil in their bath or you know, this
is where all the oil.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Stuff originated from.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Probably you don't use like canol oil, but if you've
got an oil and you need to remove your makeup,
or I use good old body oil.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
When you were growing up, did your mom like fry
chips and then pour the oil back in the fit
to reuse it. I'm picturing that and like the stinkiness
of h.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
But yes, my mum literally used one of those bundles.
I talk about other ways to put it back into
like a big vinegar thing, and then when she'd fry
the chip.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, then reuse it. I'm talking about like my extra
virgin olive oil.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I use a body oil or any oil when I
shave my face as the slip.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
So get your oil out, Yeah, get oily, what's yours?
Because I'm so intrigued. I mean, it's not that interesting,
but because it has been getting colder, I've already noticed
we're not even in the cold cold parts, but I've
noticed that my skin it's around to my mouth, me too,
is getting yuck. And I'll put makeup on and immediately
doesn't matter how how I prep the skin just starts

(14:11):
going a little bit flaky around my nose, around my
mouth and in the crease on my chin. Me too. Actually,
So the doctor winds barrier protect Sarah made balm. I mean, listen,
you could probably use any barrier balm, but this one's clear,
which is quite most of them are really white. This
one is clear. So I get a little bit of
this after I've done my makeup and then just press
it into those bits that get yuck. Oh that's genius,

(14:34):
and it just sort of keeps it looking glowy. I
press so I don't move the makeup around, Yes, and
it kind of just locks it in and stops it
getting Flaky'll can.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
You try doing that before the makeup to make sure
that area is extra juicy.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, But then it's harder to get makeup on. So
I just find like to put it on afterwards your
makeup's on, it's locking it in and it's going to
stop the skin getting all flaky and gross. I love that.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, I've been finding that too, I think just because
maybe I'm forty three, so like my Combo.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Skin's like I'm still combo, but the drive it's just
I hate you. Like thanks anyway, you can pick it
up at your local pharmacy off I Go. It's really
really good. You can use it also at night times
for like, you know, locking everything in. It's incredible croaked
and I love that it's clear because it is great
over makeup as well delicious. Kelly, Well, thank you for listening. Youbies.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
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Speaker 1 (15:31):
This episode of You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood.
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