September 28, 2025 • 19 mins
Prepare for your new obsession The Fix.
This brand new episode features your beauty agony aunts, Kelly & Amy, who don't shy away from solving the awkward, embarrassing, and absolutely essential dilemmas you're too embarrassed to ask anyone about. This episode covers the real, honest stuff: the unspoken rules around cosmetic injectables, a very hairy boyfriend situation, and the case of the office hand cream thief.
Plus, we're serving up our Beauty Edit with all the news you need to know from the beauty world this week.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Makeup is My therapy.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome to you Beauty, the podcast for your Face,
and welcome to The Fix. My name is Amy Clark,
and with me today Kelley McCarron.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And today we are here to solve.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Life's little beauty dilemmas, the kind of stuff that you're
too embarrassed to ask anyone else. Ask us.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
You have to ask us, because there is no team
I hear. We are your beauty agony aunts. If you will,
every now and then, sometimes when you least expect it,
we are going to pop into your eyes and ears
with one of these The Fixed episodes, ready to take
on the messiest, most awkward, and cringe worthy problems.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
In your makeup bag and beyond.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
This episode, we are tackling the unspoken rules of cosmetic injectables.
Do you owe people a full confession? We're also diving
into a very hairy situation with a listener's boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Plus we are solving the case of the office handy
hand crim geet was it you?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Probably? But first our beauty headlines. This is the Beauty Edit.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm Cass, Momma MIA's morning editor, and I'm here to
unpack all the biggest trends. Consider this, you'll weekly download
of everything you missed in the beauty world.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And I'm Sophie, the producer of You Beauty, and I'm
here to ask all the questions you're wondering on your behalf.
So let's get into it, Cass, what's the first big
trend we need to talk about?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So, Kim Kardashian is closing her skincare brand, Skin by
Kim Wait.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So Kim is shutting down her beauty line already? Didn't
that only launch a few years ago?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You're right?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So, so Skin launched in twenty twenty two as this
kind of glossy, luxury skincare brand. It was also a
rebrand of her previous labels, which you'll probably remember as
KKW Beauty and KKW Free Grants. So at the time,
Kim was kind of looking for something that was a
one brand beauty empire, and this was supposed to encompass skincare, makeup, fragrance, nails,
(02:19):
all that sort of stuff, and it was done in
partnership with Cody, which is a really big beauty giant
who owns a bunch of really amazing brands. And it
was designed as a nine product skincare line and later
expanded to makeup. But so if the reality was that
it never really landed. The nine products, which included cleanser,
tona exfoliator, herolonic acid, vitamin C, face cream, I cream oil,
(02:40):
dropped night oil. There's a reason that I'm taking a
breath there. There is so much there, and together it
cost six hundred and seventy three USD, which is around
one thousand dollars AUD. So even the fans that really
loved Kim couldn't justify that kind of price tag. So
in twenty twenty four she tried to turn things around.
She sort of didn't let it die, then added some makeup,
(03:01):
but even then it just didn't really take off.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, okay, I definitely wouldn't pay that.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
No, I know, I think it's quite excessive, especially because
if you consider so many celebrity luxury brand so kind
of in that middle range.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So this was a bit of a step at the time.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So what happened was it just too expensive.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
That was kind of a big part of it. And
the products were nice, but I feel like they weren't
that unique, especially for that kind of price range. So
Bethany Frankel, who is on the Real Housewives of New
York and makes lots of comments on social media about
various things, called it a rich person's game, and I
think that kind of sums this one up. And then
you've got Kim herself. So she's already juggling her four
(03:36):
billion dollar Skims empire, four kids, finishing a law program,
and now she's actually going to start in Ryan Murphy's
new series All Fair.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So she has a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Going on, and I think in this instance, a sluggish
beauty label just really wasn't worth her bandwidth.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Okay, So wasn't this in a partnership, Yes.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It was so behind the scenes. Coti, who originally partnered
with her, sold their stake at a loss earlier this year.
So that kind of led to this official note on
the website saying that it closed down on June twenty
ninth of this year.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Okay, Cassid, does that mean that this is the end
of Kim Kardashian in beauty?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Look, it's a good question, but I think the answer
is not quite. The industry is already talking about Skims
beauty on the horizon, potentially for next year, in twenty
twenty six, and that actually makes a lot of sense
if you consider Skims as a cultural juggernaut. It's not
just shapewear anymore. It's loungewear, it's swim, it's men's wear,
and it's gone global. So it makes sense to put
(04:29):
her new beauty Forray, whatever that may be, under the
Skim's umbrella and tapping into her existing customer base. So
my thoughts, so that Skin by Kim may have flopped,
but this feels like less of a failure and a
bit more of a strategic pivot.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Okay, right, So it's Kimmy Kaye trimming the fat so
you can make a bigger comeback.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I'd say.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I think she's cut in the dead weight and then
she's gonna come back bigger and better than ever. Sophie,
I have some devastating news. The internet is saying that
MATCHA is messing with our hair.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Wait what hold on, don't come for my morning match A, cass.
What is going on here?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
MATCHA is everywhere right now? And all the hot girls
are drinking it on their walks. It's Oliver Pinterest and
even I have to say, it looks very chic and
you've got one in your hand. But a viral Instagram
reel had people spiraling, and it came from holistic beauty
expert Michelle Ranavat. So she said that her hair started
falling out because she was drinking too much of it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh my god, Okay, how much is too much? What
does that mean exactly?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I mean, the main ingredient in matcha that's causing a
fuss is something called a tannin, which is a naturally
occurring polyphonolic compound. They're saying that it could block iron absorption,
and low iron is correlated to thinning and shedding. But
as we know, there's quite a difference between correlation and causation.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So we're saying that my morning beloved green latte is
going to make me bald.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Well, not exactly, So Mamma Mia spoke to the experts
on this one to debunk it. We spoke with doctor
James Hook, who's really well known in the wellness and
health world, and he said that basically any food or
drink in excess could impact our health, so matcha isn't
directly causing our hair loss. However, if you already have
low iron, it might not be a bad idea to
(06:07):
drink a little less or time or intake better. For
those that are already low in iron, it could worseen
the deficiency or potentially trigger something called telligent effluvium, which
you may know is a type of temporary shedding and
hair loss, but it's actually not a new phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Sophie, So it's not just my match to them.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
No, So doctors have actually recommended keeping tea and coffee
at least one to two hours away from meals that
are iron rich or if you're taking iron supplements, and
they basically say to take the supplements on an empty stomach.
So if you're low in iron and you're trying to
eat a breakfast sausage in the morning, maybe have your
match out a little later in the day.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So basically, don't chug a marcher with your steak dinner.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's more of your iron deficient to just be mindful
making sure you're eating your iron rich foods on an
empty stomach and monitoring your levels and consulting a doctor
if you're a bit worried. So the bottom line is, no,
you don't need to break up with your March just yet,
but make sure to drink it smarter. That's your beauty
headlines for this week. Now let's get into your beauty
dilemmas with Kelly and Amy.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
This one has come from a listener named Jen.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So gendm Us, saying, I recently had a small cosmetic
enhancement to my lips and lines just to discreete touch up,
and I absolutely love it. The change is super subtle
and natural, but it still makes me feel like I'm
hiding something. I have a friend who's completely open about
her tweaks. If someone compliments her lips, she'll say straight away, thanks,
I got them done. I admire that honesty, but I'm
(07:30):
not sure I want to be that transparent. So do
I have to tell people? Do I owe them that information?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
What is the etiquette?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I feel like you are the perfect person to talk
about this, because yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
But I love that you were like I want to
answer first. Oh, like she's going to come in with
some opinions.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Oho.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I totally get why gen feels this way, because we
do expect transparency when it comes to injectibles and tweakments,
but it's from people that are profiting from the way
they look or that it's part of their brand. So
you know, like it's so different for someone who is
in the public eye versus the average person, Like I
(08:08):
don't expect the average person to tell me what treatments
they've had, do you know? I mean, if I ask
them point blank, what have you done?
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Well, if someone looks vastly different, of course it's none
of my business. But if I ask and you're not
transparent and I know you, well, then you're kind of
a little bit you're not.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
A girl's girl.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I just don't think however, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm saying, if I know you quite well, that's it.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's like like, am I going to tell someone that
I literally met today, like my entire cosmetic history. I'm
probably not.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, and they did, they wouldn't ask, and I, well,
this is what I've.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Had done exactly down to the mills literally, but where
like probably not the best litmus test for like how
the average person might talk about it. But in my
friendship circle, I think because it's like in the same
way that you share recommendations and information, you know, like
a great pair of boots that you've found, or like
have you been to this plate studio, this restaurant. It's
(09:08):
kind of like, I feel, I love sharing information in
that way with my friends, so I have no you know,
I'll be like, oh, yeah, I did this and this
and this, but it's also completely fine not to so, Jen,
you actually don't owe anybody that information.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
You don't owe anyone anything about your body, about what
you've had done, about anything. However, That's how I see
it on one hand. But on the other hand, my
comment about being a girl's girl is simply if someone
says to you, oh, my goodness, your lips look fantastic
and you have had filler, I just think it's a
little bit disingenuous personally to say, well, I mean, you
(09:48):
can just say thanks, true, you can just say thanks.
But if you're allowing that person to believe that it
was just.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
How you will mother nature, mother nature.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Or just a particular lip product that you're using, that's
what I think is a little bit disingenuous. However, it
also is still not that person's business, true, Like it
doesn't you don't owe anyone anything.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, it's always like as long as you're not like
causing harm, and also like, yeah, it all comes down
to like the who, the context, all of that kind
of stuff. If anything, I'd almost say to Jen, it's
probably worth just like she said that she loves how
it looks that she's so happy with the results. It's
more kind of like, oh, I wonder like why she
(10:35):
like feels a little bit uncomfy about like if she
would tell her friends or not, because it's kind of
like if it's from a place of like, oh I
feel like a bit shameful that I've had this thing done,
then like maybe that's worth interrogating. But if you're just
a super private person, then like power to you.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yeah, and you don't have to at all. And I'm
not saying that you're not a girl's girl at all.
Like it's so as you said, it's within context, Like yeah,
I think what bothers me is I always think about
it purely from it's when a public person promotes lip
bum Yeah, this makes my lips look like this, and
(11:13):
they've had three meals of filler and a lip flip
and potentially a few tweakments around their mouth. That's what
I just think is really deceiving and bad behavior and
poor form towards other women.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But yeah, if you just private, don't worry.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
About it, don't overthink things too much that don't affect
other people.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Now for our second question, we have an anonymous submission,
one from Melbourne. It's not me, by the way, because
I live in Melbourne.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
My partner has a beard and it's a total mess.
It looks unkempt and he just uses my standard champoon
it which makes it feel dry and wiry. I'm honestly
so put off by it. How do I convince him
to use a proper beard products without hurting his feelings
or making it a whole thing. I'm sorry to giggle,
but I just I'm honestly so put off by it.
That line is like it's giving me the eck.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, but honestly, but there's a whole bunch of ways.
I'm sure that you could say this with nuance and whatever,
but I would literally say, and I'm pretty sure I
have said this to my husband. I like kissing you
better when you've had.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
A fresh shave, don't give me a beard rush my
face or badge, Like like, I'm gonna throw that information
out there and then it's his you know, he can
do with that what he will do.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You want to kiss me more, then let's shave. Let's
look after the facial hair because like, and that's coming
from me, like or if you've ever like you get
easily irritated skin, like I need to not look like
Sharon Strzleki when I'm out and about with a massive
pass rush exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
That's just such a good way to look at it,
just really good advice.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
You don't have to hurt their feelings. Just say, hey,
your beard is really rough and it hurts my face.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Do you want to pass me? Yes or no? Except
then if he shaves it, You've really got to like passion.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh yes, And this listener has said that their partner
has a beard. It's a bit different but easy fix,
like to keep a beard maintained, and like, I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Know, it depends how sensitive happen and how bushy.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Most people surely are open to a little bit of
criticism about that. Like, hey, babe, I bought you some
bead oil. It's just you can do it really casually,
in a non confrontational way. Babe, I picked up this
beard oil for you because the last time you gave
me a schmooch, it kind of hurt me. Can you
just start using this? I think it'll like I read
an article it's really good something like that. Yeah, just
drop it into casual conversation. Doesn't have to be a
(13:35):
big thing.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It also doesn't have to be like a specific beard product, like,
for example, like the face oil that I love, Like
he can use that too on his facial hair. I'm
talking as someone who has like I'm always skit.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, I do have a beard and well, actually.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Funnily enough, yeah, my husband does like to comment on
how my little mustache glints in the sunlight sometimes, but
you know, it's very soft so it doesn't cause him
a shape. But another little hack that I use is
I'll just like send I don't know if you send
your partner like tiktoks or Instagram memes and things like that.
(14:13):
Just send some pictures of, like, you know, men with
facial hair that you think looks nice and soft. Yeah,
send them across. They'll get the hint.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Producer Soaf has just given us such an additional great tip.
When they're not near you just starts screaming into their
phone so that they listen and then start serving ads.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
I need a beard oil, I need a soft beard,
scratchy beard. Help please help me and you. That was
great advice. So the work borrower, all.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Right, So listener Julia has asked, there's a colleague at
my office who is constantly quote unquote borrowing my lip,
arm and hand cream. I'm sorry, but that person needs
to go to jail. I keep my desk stocked with
my favorite expensive products and she always asks to use them.
How do I get to stop without making it awkward
(15:11):
every time she asks?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Let us both say how we would approach this situation.
It's me being the person I am Oi Jaila jawls,
don't get your dirty mits off my things.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
What if I had a cold, saw your dirty bitch?
What if you have a cold, saw your dirty bitch.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, so I probably wouldn't do it quite like that,
but this reminded me so much of and also like
every office is different, Like you come to the mum
and mea office, Like people are picking stuff up of
other people's desks, like you know, I'm going over and
I'm spraying your perfume. Like it's just a different environment.
But I once I will never forget. Once in our
(15:54):
old office, I had my GHD glide straight in and
brush like plugged in at my desk so I could
do my hair before work. And one time I came
into the office one morning and it was like you
know when someone brows a heat tool and they like
they wrap the cord up around and it's like, so
they unplugged it, wrapped it up, put it on the desk.
It was covered in blonde hair. Obviously I'm a ranger,
(16:18):
I don't have blonde hair, but so it was like
someone's used this, they haven't asked me to use it,
and then they've left it on my desk with all
their hair in it, and I was like, like, you
could have just pulled the hair out.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I just said, hey, babe, do you mind if I So.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I really empathize with Julia, but I'd probably say, like
take your really fancy hank like expense I if we're
talking like a Birado hand cream or something like that's
for your nightstand. Probably like the easiest way to solve
this is to just like replace it with another really
beautiful looking, affordable hand cream, so you still get that
(16:57):
nice glimmer in your day. But then It's kind of
like if somebody is like and also when you're applying
to hand cream at work and it smells really beautiful,
like I'm probably going to turn around and be like,
oh that, oh that smell nice.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, I don't think that we can keep hand cream
in an office. Well, of course we can.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
You can have whatever boundaries you want, but I agree,
just get like a more affordable one, keep your nice
one for at home or your home office, and just yeah,
share the hand cream around the lip bum on the
other hand.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No way, yuck.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That is like, that's like, go to HR please.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I do not share lipbum with my sister.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yuck.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That is I agree straight to Joy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I think I'm in shock too just thinking about like
a colleague using my lip bum.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
I'm so intimate and really gross, like that's bad germs.
I think a more polite way of dealing with it
than just shouting at hers, I jokingly non jokingly said.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Just hate once again.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Like I said with the husband, think things don't have
to be confrontational. I think sometimes we build things up
in our head more than they need to be. Next
time she comes over and ask to borrow your things,
you just see, don't mind using my hand cream. Please
don't borrow my lip bumb I just find it really gross.
I don't want to share lip bums or turn it
around onto yourself, say I wouldn't I've got a cold,
(18:19):
saw or I'm getting a flu. Yeah, just make yourself
out to be the gross one. Why would she want
to use your things?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah? Fall on the sword like and send her this episode.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, so have you heard this great podcast? It's called
You Beauty. Now.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I just I don't see a problem with borrowing hand cream,
although I completely agree why it would bother you when
it's an expensive one?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
So let's just swap that out. But they're blip bomb.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah yeah, not okay, And that brings us to the
end of the fix. So we've basically solved everyone's problems
and if yeah, well, we can't do everything.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
But if you've got a dilemma that you want us
to fix, please send them in.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You can email us at you Beauty at momamea dot com.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Are you We'll see you next tie bye e
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Makeup is My therapy.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome to you Beauty, the podcast for your Face,
and welcome to The Fix. My name is Amy Clark,
and with me today Kelley McCarron.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And today we are here to solve.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Life's little beauty dilemmas, the kind of stuff that you're
too embarrassed to ask anyone else. Ask us.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
You have to ask us, because there is no team
I hear. We are your beauty agony aunts. If you will,
every now and then, sometimes when you least expect it,
we are going to pop into your eyes and ears
with one of these The Fixed episodes, ready to take
on the messiest, most awkward, and cringe worthy problems.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
In your makeup bag and beyond.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
This episode, we are tackling the unspoken rules of cosmetic injectables.
Do you owe people a full confession? We're also diving
into a very hairy situation with a listener's boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Plus we are solving the case of the office handy
hand crim geet was it you?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Probably? But first our beauty headlines. This is the Beauty Edit.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm Cass, Momma MIA's morning editor, and I'm here to
unpack all the biggest trends. Consider this, you'll weekly download
of everything you missed in the beauty world.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And I'm Sophie, the producer of You Beauty, and I'm
here to ask all the questions you're wondering on your behalf.
So let's get into it, Cass, what's the first big
trend we need to talk about?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So, Kim Kardashian is closing her skincare brand, Skin by
Kim Wait.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So Kim is shutting down her beauty line already? Didn't
that only launch a few years ago?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You're right?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So, so Skin launched in twenty twenty two as this
kind of glossy, luxury skincare brand. It was also a
rebrand of her previous labels, which you'll probably remember as
KKW Beauty and KKW Free Grants. So at the time,
Kim was kind of looking for something that was a
one brand beauty empire, and this was supposed to encompass skincare, makeup, fragrance, nails,
(02:19):
all that sort of stuff, and it was done in
partnership with Cody, which is a really big beauty giant
who owns a bunch of really amazing brands. And it
was designed as a nine product skincare line and later
expanded to makeup. But so if the reality was that
it never really landed. The nine products, which included cleanser,
tona exfoliator, herolonic acid, vitamin C, face cream, I cream oil,
(02:40):
dropped night oil. There's a reason that I'm taking a
breath there. There is so much there, and together it
cost six hundred and seventy three USD, which is around
one thousand dollars AUD. So even the fans that really
loved Kim couldn't justify that kind of price tag. So
in twenty twenty four she tried to turn things around.
She sort of didn't let it die, then added some makeup,
(03:01):
but even then it just didn't really take off.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, okay, I definitely wouldn't pay that.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
No, I know, I think it's quite excessive, especially because
if you consider so many celebrity luxury brand so kind
of in that middle range.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So this was a bit of a step at the time.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So what happened was it just too expensive.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
That was kind of a big part of it. And
the products were nice, but I feel like they weren't
that unique, especially for that kind of price range. So
Bethany Frankel, who is on the Real Housewives of New
York and makes lots of comments on social media about
various things, called it a rich person's game, and I
think that kind of sums this one up. And then
you've got Kim herself. So she's already juggling her four
(03:36):
billion dollar Skims empire, four kids, finishing a law program,
and now she's actually going to start in Ryan Murphy's
new series All Fair.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So she has a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Going on, and I think in this instance, a sluggish
beauty label just really wasn't worth her bandwidth.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Okay, So wasn't this in a partnership, Yes.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It was so behind the scenes. Coti, who originally partnered
with her, sold their stake at a loss earlier this year.
So that kind of led to this official note on
the website saying that it closed down on June twenty
ninth of this year.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Okay, Cassid, does that mean that this is the end
of Kim Kardashian in beauty?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Look, it's a good question, but I think the answer
is not quite. The industry is already talking about Skims
beauty on the horizon, potentially for next year, in twenty
twenty six, and that actually makes a lot of sense
if you consider Skims as a cultural juggernaut. It's not
just shapewear anymore. It's loungewear, it's swim, it's men's wear,
and it's gone global. So it makes sense to put
(04:29):
her new beauty Forray, whatever that may be, under the
Skim's umbrella and tapping into her existing customer base. So
my thoughts, so that Skin by Kim may have flopped,
but this feels like less of a failure and a
bit more of a strategic pivot.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Okay, right, So it's Kimmy Kaye trimming the fat so
you can make a bigger comeback.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I'd say.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I think she's cut in the dead weight and then
she's gonna come back bigger and better than ever. Sophie,
I have some devastating news. The internet is saying that
MATCHA is messing with our hair.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Wait what hold on, don't come for my morning match A, cass.
What is going on here?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
MATCHA is everywhere right now? And all the hot girls
are drinking it on their walks. It's Oliver Pinterest and
even I have to say, it looks very chic and
you've got one in your hand. But a viral Instagram
reel had people spiraling, and it came from holistic beauty
expert Michelle Ranavat. So she said that her hair started
falling out because she was drinking too much of it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh my god, Okay, how much is too much? What
does that mean exactly?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I mean, the main ingredient in matcha that's causing a
fuss is something called a tannin, which is a naturally
occurring polyphonolic compound. They're saying that it could block iron absorption,
and low iron is correlated to thinning and shedding. But
as we know, there's quite a difference between correlation and causation.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So we're saying that my morning beloved green latte is
going to make me bald.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Well, not exactly, So Mamma Mia spoke to the experts
on this one to debunk it. We spoke with doctor
James Hook, who's really well known in the wellness and
health world, and he said that basically any food or
drink in excess could impact our health, so matcha isn't
directly causing our hair loss. However, if you already have
low iron, it might not be a bad idea to
(06:07):
drink a little less or time or intake better. For
those that are already low in iron, it could worseen
the deficiency or potentially trigger something called telligent effluvium, which
you may know is a type of temporary shedding and
hair loss, but it's actually not a new phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Sophie, So it's not just my match to them.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
No, So doctors have actually recommended keeping tea and coffee
at least one to two hours away from meals that
are iron rich or if you're taking iron supplements, and
they basically say to take the supplements on an empty stomach.
So if you're low in iron and you're trying to
eat a breakfast sausage in the morning, maybe have your
match out a little later in the day.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So basically, don't chug a marcher with your steak dinner.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's more of your iron deficient to just be mindful
making sure you're eating your iron rich foods on an
empty stomach and monitoring your levels and consulting a doctor
if you're a bit worried. So the bottom line is, no,
you don't need to break up with your March just yet,
but make sure to drink it smarter. That's your beauty
headlines for this week. Now let's get into your beauty
dilemmas with Kelly and Amy.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
This one has come from a listener named Jen.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So gendm Us, saying, I recently had a small cosmetic
enhancement to my lips and lines just to discreete touch up,
and I absolutely love it. The change is super subtle
and natural, but it still makes me feel like I'm
hiding something. I have a friend who's completely open about
her tweaks. If someone compliments her lips, she'll say straight away, thanks,
I got them done. I admire that honesty, but I'm
(07:30):
not sure I want to be that transparent. So do
I have to tell people? Do I owe them that information?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
What is the etiquette?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I feel like you are the perfect person to talk
about this, because yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
But I love that you were like I want to
answer first. Oh, like she's going to come in with
some opinions.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Oho.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I totally get why gen feels this way, because we
do expect transparency when it comes to injectibles and tweakments,
but it's from people that are profiting from the way
they look or that it's part of their brand. So
you know, like it's so different for someone who is
in the public eye versus the average person, Like I
(08:08):
don't expect the average person to tell me what treatments
they've had, do you know? I mean, if I ask
them point blank, what have you done?
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Well, if someone looks vastly different, of course it's none
of my business. But if I ask and you're not
transparent and I know you, well, then you're kind of
a little bit you're not.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
A girl's girl.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I just don't think however, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm saying, if I know you quite well, that's it.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's like like, am I going to tell someone that
I literally met today, like my entire cosmetic history. I'm
probably not.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, and they did, they wouldn't ask, and I, well,
this is what I've.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Had done exactly down to the mills literally, but where
like probably not the best litmus test for like how
the average person might talk about it. But in my
friendship circle, I think because it's like in the same
way that you share recommendations and information, you know, like
a great pair of boots that you've found, or like
have you been to this plate studio, this restaurant. It's
(09:08):
kind of like, I feel, I love sharing information in
that way with my friends, so I have no you know,
I'll be like, oh, yeah, I did this and this
and this, but it's also completely fine not to so, Jen,
you actually don't owe anybody that information.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
You don't owe anyone anything about your body, about what
you've had done, about anything. However, That's how I see
it on one hand. But on the other hand, my
comment about being a girl's girl is simply if someone
says to you, oh, my goodness, your lips look fantastic
and you have had filler, I just think it's a
little bit disingenuous personally to say, well, I mean, you
(09:48):
can just say thanks, true, you can just say thanks.
But if you're allowing that person to believe that it
was just.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
How you will mother nature, mother nature.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Or just a particular lip product that you're using, that's
what I think is a little bit disingenuous. However, it
also is still not that person's business, true, Like it
doesn't you don't owe anyone anything.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, it's always like as long as you're not like
causing harm, and also like, yeah, it all comes down
to like the who, the context, all of that kind
of stuff. If anything, I'd almost say to Jen, it's
probably worth just like she said that she loves how
it looks that she's so happy with the results. It's
more kind of like, oh, I wonder like why she
(10:35):
like feels a little bit uncomfy about like if she
would tell her friends or not, because it's kind of
like if it's from a place of like, oh I
feel like a bit shameful that I've had this thing done,
then like maybe that's worth interrogating. But if you're just
a super private person, then like power to you.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yeah, and you don't have to at all. And I'm
not saying that you're not a girl's girl at all.
Like it's so as you said, it's within context, Like yeah,
I think what bothers me is I always think about
it purely from it's when a public person promotes lip
bum Yeah, this makes my lips look like this, and
(11:13):
they've had three meals of filler and a lip flip
and potentially a few tweakments around their mouth. That's what
I just think is really deceiving and bad behavior and
poor form towards other women.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But yeah, if you just private, don't worry.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
About it, don't overthink things too much that don't affect
other people.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Now for our second question, we have an anonymous submission,
one from Melbourne. It's not me, by the way, because
I live in Melbourne.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
My partner has a beard and it's a total mess.
It looks unkempt and he just uses my standard champoon
it which makes it feel dry and wiry. I'm honestly
so put off by it. How do I convince him
to use a proper beard products without hurting his feelings
or making it a whole thing. I'm sorry to giggle,
but I just I'm honestly so put off by it.
That line is like it's giving me the eck.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, but honestly, but there's a whole bunch of ways.
I'm sure that you could say this with nuance and whatever,
but I would literally say, and I'm pretty sure I
have said this to my husband. I like kissing you
better when you've had.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
A fresh shave, don't give me a beard rush my
face or badge, Like like, I'm gonna throw that information
out there and then it's his you know, he can
do with that what he will do.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You want to kiss me more, then let's shave. Let's
look after the facial hair because like, and that's coming
from me, like or if you've ever like you get
easily irritated skin, like I need to not look like
Sharon Strzleki when I'm out and about with a massive
pass rush exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
That's just such a good way to look at it,
just really good advice.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
You don't have to hurt their feelings. Just say, hey,
your beard is really rough and it hurts my face.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Do you want to pass me? Yes or no? Except
then if he shaves it, You've really got to like passion.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh yes, And this listener has said that their partner
has a beard. It's a bit different but easy fix,
like to keep a beard maintained, and like, I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Know, it depends how sensitive happen and how bushy.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Most people surely are open to a little bit of
criticism about that. Like, hey, babe, I bought you some
bead oil. It's just you can do it really casually,
in a non confrontational way. Babe, I picked up this
beard oil for you because the last time you gave
me a schmooch, it kind of hurt me. Can you
just start using this? I think it'll like I read
an article it's really good something like that. Yeah, just
drop it into casual conversation. Doesn't have to be a
(13:35):
big thing.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It also doesn't have to be like a specific beard product, like,
for example, like the face oil that I love, Like
he can use that too on his facial hair. I'm
talking as someone who has like I'm always skit.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, I do have a beard and well, actually.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Funnily enough, yeah, my husband does like to comment on
how my little mustache glints in the sunlight sometimes, but
you know, it's very soft so it doesn't cause him
a shape. But another little hack that I use is
I'll just like send I don't know if you send
your partner like tiktoks or Instagram memes and things like that.
(14:13):
Just send some pictures of, like, you know, men with
facial hair that you think looks nice and soft. Yeah,
send them across. They'll get the hint.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Producer Soaf has just given us such an additional great tip.
When they're not near you just starts screaming into their
phone so that they listen and then start serving ads.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
I need a beard oil, I need a soft beard,
scratchy beard. Help please help me and you. That was
great advice. So the work borrower, all.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Right, So listener Julia has asked, there's a colleague at
my office who is constantly quote unquote borrowing my lip,
arm and hand cream. I'm sorry, but that person needs
to go to jail. I keep my desk stocked with
my favorite expensive products and she always asks to use them.
How do I get to stop without making it awkward
(15:11):
every time she asks?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Let us both say how we would approach this situation.
It's me being the person I am Oi Jaila jawls,
don't get your dirty mits off my things.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
What if I had a cold, saw your dirty bitch?
What if you have a cold, saw your dirty bitch.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, so I probably wouldn't do it quite like that,
but this reminded me so much of and also like
every office is different, Like you come to the mum
and mea office, Like people are picking stuff up of
other people's desks, like you know, I'm going over and
I'm spraying your perfume. Like it's just a different environment.
But I once I will never forget. Once in our
(15:54):
old office, I had my GHD glide straight in and
brush like plugged in at my desk so I could
do my hair before work. And one time I came
into the office one morning and it was like you
know when someone brows a heat tool and they like
they wrap the cord up around and it's like, so
they unplugged it, wrapped it up, put it on the desk.
It was covered in blonde hair. Obviously I'm a ranger,
(16:18):
I don't have blonde hair, but so it was like
someone's used this, they haven't asked me to use it,
and then they've left it on my desk with all
their hair in it, and I was like, like, you
could have just pulled the hair out.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I just said, hey, babe, do you mind if I So.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I really empathize with Julia, but I'd probably say, like
take your really fancy hank like expense I if we're
talking like a Birado hand cream or something like that's
for your nightstand. Probably like the easiest way to solve
this is to just like replace it with another really
beautiful looking, affordable hand cream, so you still get that
(16:57):
nice glimmer in your day. But then It's kind of
like if somebody is like and also when you're applying
to hand cream at work and it smells really beautiful,
like I'm probably going to turn around and be like,
oh that, oh that smell nice.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, I don't think that we can keep hand cream
in an office. Well, of course we can.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
You can have whatever boundaries you want, but I agree,
just get like a more affordable one, keep your nice
one for at home or your home office, and just yeah,
share the hand cream around the lip bum on the
other hand.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No way, yuck.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That is like, that's like, go to HR please.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I do not share lipbum with my sister.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yuck.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That is I agree straight to Joy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I think I'm in shock too just thinking about like
a colleague using my lip bum.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
I'm so intimate and really gross, like that's bad germs.
I think a more polite way of dealing with it
than just shouting at hers, I jokingly non jokingly said.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Just hate once again.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Like I said with the husband, think things don't have
to be confrontational. I think sometimes we build things up
in our head more than they need to be. Next
time she comes over and ask to borrow your things,
you just see, don't mind using my hand cream. Please
don't borrow my lip bumb I just find it really gross.
I don't want to share lip bums or turn it
around onto yourself, say I wouldn't I've got a cold,
(18:19):
saw or I'm getting a flu. Yeah, just make yourself
out to be the gross one. Why would she want
to use your things?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah? Fall on the sword like and send her this episode.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, so have you heard this great podcast? It's called
You Beauty. Now.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I just I don't see a problem with borrowing hand cream,
although I completely agree why it would bother you when
it's an expensive one?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
So let's just swap that out. But they're blip bomb.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah yeah, not okay, And that brings us to the
end of the fix. So we've basically solved everyone's problems
and if yeah, well, we can't do everything.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
But if you've got a dilemma that you want us
to fix, please send them in.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You can email us at you Beauty at momamea dot com.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Are you We'll see you next tie bye e
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