July 20, 2025 • 21 mins
Think you need to wash your hair less to keep it healthy? Leigh & Kelly are here to burst that bubble! They're tackling how often you should actually be washing fine, oily hair. Spoiler alert: wash it as much as you bloody want! From debunking the "hair training" myth to sharing their holy grail products, they're serving up real talk about why your hair doesn't need the same love as your skin.
Then they're diving into reverse eyeliner - that dramatic bottom lash line emphasis all over your Instagram feed. Kelly attempts it (and immediately regrets it), while Leigh explains why this runway trend might not be your everyday go-to.
LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
My Soda Australia Balanced Shampoo and Conditioner (for oily-prone hair) $10.00
John Frieda Profiller Thickening Shampoo $20.99
John Frieda Profiller Thickening Conditioner $20.99
Garnier Fructis Coconut Water Shampoo for Oily Roots and Dry Ends $16.99
Batiste Dry Shampoo $10.00
Makeup by Mario Master Pigment Pro Pencil - Super Black $47.00
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Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Makeup is my therapy in love.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel jailtyer body. Hello,
and welcome to Your Beauty, the Podcast for Your Face.
I'm Lee Camber, I'm Kelly McCarron, and I have very
dry scale legs today, but we're not going to look
at those because I'm wearing a T shirt that says
I love pastuff. No wa, what does it say? How
good is pasta?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Which you know?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
The best? The best? So no one look at my legs.
Everyone look at my T shirt and let's do some
beauty stuff. How are you? I'm good? But I do
have something funny to read you. Okay, we have a review.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh the vibes are off.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh this was left on Apple podcast for years. Do
you look at those sometimes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh god, lock of a punishment.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's the sess bit of people. No, I mean, except
unless you've given us a lovely review. But also, like
I just think that they're quite funny. I've got very
thick skins, so I can deal with it. Lee and
Kelly's dislike for each other is palpable. We get this
a lot, actually helpable. Well, I have a reason, but
let me finish this first. It's so awkward to listen
to used to love, but it's really awkward listening now.
(01:27):
Exclamation point palpable. My dislike for you apparently palpable. I
have a theory fabulous Lately, I think my thing is
the more I know someone and like them, the meaner
I am to them generally. Yeah, so I reckon if
it's a long time listener.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
When we were like overly.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Nice and place to each other colleagues, we didn't know
each other. But well, now you come over to my house,
you can put pat on, you clean my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We'll tell each other off for different things.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I give you clothes for Lenny. We just text each
other one random, random or rant about different But also,
what makes content good is not that we try to
it on purpose. But you won't have a bit of
tension because if you were both just like yeah, I
love that product too, that would be so boring.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, but yeah, so I'd just like to say on
the record, loll.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And we are very very good friends. We txt every
single day. I assure you my love for the woman
has never been more intense, if not less, maybe, which
is maybe why I'm mean to it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Maybe it was my friends.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I read a study recently that says, if you neg
your friends and super close, if you troll like I
troll you often when I get like teasing you about
your FRANZOI yes, that's life, and how old I am
that I can't work very That is love? Anyway, that's
a bit of a BTS. Don't forget about YouTube, So
now you can watch us. There's a whole Mum and
(02:51):
mea YouTube channel. But then there's a new beauty YouTube
channel that you can just go and see us straight up,
Like why wouldn't you want to? It's at you Beauty
podcast on YouTube, So go watch us. But of course
we're still in your ears now. Today we answer to questions.
We've got two really good ones. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was quite funny though, I was like, yeah, they
got short questions. Dane Ly's no, I've got big lists.
You love a list.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, I like to answer the question.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I just bought in one product, Oh good oath. I
couldn't help, but wonder.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Asked me anything. You ask many questions, so Lamb has
sent us a DM. Hi, girls, I'm so confused about
how often I should be washing my hair. I've got fine,
oily hair, and I feel like I need to wash
it every day, but everyone keeps telling me that's bad
for it. My hairdresser says every second day, my mom
says twice a week, and TikTok is telling me to
(03:39):
try hair training and go longer between washers. I'm so overwhelmed.
What's the actual answer and does it change with different
hair types?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
See? My answer for that is simply do whatever you please.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I love. I have very fine hair, believe it or not.
I just have so much of it. I often get
DMS saying, Wow, your hair's so thick and volumess. I'm like, no,
I've just got same buttloads of it. And guess what,
I'm forty three now in my twenties, I double this
amount of hair. It's all downhill, so every single strand
is fine. But I've got a lot of it, and
I'm an oily, oily mofo so lem. I've been on
(04:15):
this journey. I've tried hair training. I've told myself that
it worked, it doesn't work, or I just don't like
the feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, yuck.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I washed my hair five times a week, let's say,
and then maybe you know if it's a Friday night
and I'm not doing anything. Honest, I'm a morning hair washer.
You're usually a night hair washer. Oh, I usually do
it during the day when I'm working from Oh that's clever. Yeah,
I just I have to Otherwise you have to blow
dry it, because now I'm I'm officially a grown up,
and I don't just let my hair air dry anymore
(04:46):
because I know that it. Guess what I did last
night because we had an early start this morning, and
I needed to do my roots because it's a whole
other thing.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
She's just cheeryot trick and gray.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Correct. So I colored my roots, washed my hair. But
it was bedtime. I went to bed with wet hair,
which is naughnty, but I just went sent apart two
little pigtails so I could sleep like that because if
I slept with it, well, it's almost too short to
stay in a one thing. But if I slept with
it out, I wake up like a chicken, like a Yeah,
so two little pigtails, and then when I woke up
it was still a bit damn. But I could quickly
dry it and do it. Yeah, but normally anyway, normally
(05:17):
I'm a morning washer. I would do most mornings. Say
it's a Sunday, we're not leaving the house, so we're
just going to the park or whatever. I will just
whack it back or put a hat on. But I
wash my hair most mornings. You do you, I want
you to follow Abby Jung on Instagram. She's phenomenal. She's
a trichologist and she does a lot of really great
hair products, and she's very pro supermarket brands, which I
(05:38):
love because you know, the Aorbays of the world are fantastic.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But very but like, yeah, you need to mix it
up a little bit. You save your Aorbaysbay.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I don't know, Excas Cara Star's expensive, but it's fine.
I just think it matters about what the products are
you using, like ichop and change, because you've got to
realize that your hair product is asking your hair to
do something. So if you're using smoothing and moisturizing, it's
gonna do that every time you wash your hair, and
then your hair will be really smooth and moisturized. And
for us fine hair oily girls, that means it'll be
(06:11):
too limp and flat and oily, So you want to
use a volumizing product or like a there's products for
like oily roots, dry ends. And also it all comes
down to your scalp. So your scalp's like an extension
of your head, I mean your face, and you want
to make sure you're caring for your scalp because you
can kind of minimize the oil. But if you're an
(06:31):
oily person, you're an oily person. So here's products I
love and use. I didn't even mean to do this,
but a lot of them are from Woolies. So there's
a brand called my Soda Australia. It's Balance shampoo and
conditioner and it's for oily prone hair. It's really good
because what it does is obviously removes the oil from
the root and kind of if you use that over time,
the oil's like okay, okay, you want me to go away.
(06:52):
It's not going to change your scalp type or hair type.
But it's really good. One I love so much. I
just bought it. I think it was in a while ago.
Priceline had the everything ten dollars thing, like every shampoo
conditions ten dollars it's the John Freeder Pro Filler. It's
like a volumizing, oh sorry, thickening shampoo and conditioner for
fine hair. So while it's not for oily hair specifically
(07:14):
because we've got fine hair, it kind of just gets
more air in your hair and so your hair doesn't
feel so way down and start to feel greasy. I
always have that shampoo and condition in my bathroom or
a backup, but I'm chopping and changing all the time.
One more that I swear we used to have here,
but I don't know if we do anymore. But I
found it on Amazon. It's called the Gannia Frucktus Coconut
Water Shampoo for oily roots and dry ends. So like,
(07:37):
obviously the ends of your hair aren't oily, but a
product like that is fantastic. And then in terms of
dry shampoo, because you know you're allowed to wash your
hair every day, that's fine, but if you don't want
to remember a few weeks months ago now the Chloran
for oily hair, yeah, dry shampoo, because I was saying
I didn't really ever get the chloran dry shampoo thing.
(07:57):
And as a fine haired oily person, sometimes dry shampoo
just makes it feel dirty. In another way or really obvious.
So the chloran it's a green bottle, it's got net
or something for oily hair normal like really does mop
up the oil and make the star last longer without
feeling that kind of gritty dirty instead of greasy dirty. Yeah,
so you do, you wash it as much as you want.
(08:20):
Also for me, because I used to have long hair.
Now that it's short, it's so much easier to wash
every day in star whereas it used to be long,
and so now don't feel like you're damaging it as
bad because there's not as much hair to be damaging totally.
And like the joy of being long was when it
was really dirty, I would just do a slip back bun,
which I can't really do, but it's fine. Just make
sure you're not using something too hydrating or too stripping. Yeah, like,
(08:43):
don't use a clarifying shampoo every single no, but once
a week for us oily girls is fabulous because it's
gonna lift off the dry shampoo the oil.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I have very similar hair, like I should, And when
I say should, if I don't wash my hair every
day and didn't use dry shampoo, it would be very.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, like it's gross.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I wash my hair probably five times a fortnight, okay,
so twice a week roughly, but like then I'll chuck
in an extra on the weekends. But how do you
get away with it?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Because I use half a can of dry shampoo.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I got those friends and I'm like, your hair looks amazing,
and they're like, oh, thanks, had a blow draw like
four days ago. I'm like, oh no, no, no, yeah,
I just And it's simply because I don't hate the
feeling of dry shampoo like some of them I hate
and I have to wash out.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But a lot of them even if I don't love it,
Like I.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Shampoo this morning just to get a bit of volume
and juju, but not it wasn't to mop up oil.
It was just to go so it was a little bit. Yeah,
so I did it this morning to mop up a
lot of oil.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Because I don't wash it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It doesn't look oiler at all. But it also doesn't
look super gritty, right, Maybe that's no. It just looks
cool blonde hair that's quite damaged. Yeah, so chemical damage,
Well mean you probably want to wash it less so
you don't damage this stuff. And it also looks more
lived in textured anyway, because yes it is, yeah, but
you want to wash it less in general if you've
like lightened your hair or chemically treated it, because the
(10:09):
end don't need all that. And now that I am
a grown up and blow dry my hair because I've
realized that my hair needs it in order to look presentable,
I don't want to do that every single day. Oh god, no,
I'd have the time.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Or the energy for it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But I do think that that is one of those
things where, I mean, everything with beauty is just you
do you because it's just.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So personal and yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But also I think it's different for your hair. I mean,
obviously you've got a care for your scalp, but your
hair's dead, whereas your face is your skin is alive
and will react, whereas this is dead protein. Your hair
and your nails are dead protein that's literally growing out
of your body. So exactly do what you want. But TikTok,
don't listen to your hairdresser. Do like push your hair
whenever you yeah, And when a hair dress is like,
(10:51):
oh my god, I can't believe me. Color you hair
at home, I'm like, it's dead. I'll do it. I'll
be quiet. You just don't want me to do it
so that I have to pay you to do it. Like,
just as Lee said, think about what products are using.
So you're not using the clarifying or really really nourishing
because that's just going to weigh it down. But you
do you. Yeah, So Jemima sent us a short and
(11:13):
sharper DM of which we have many thoughts. Well I do,
Kelly and Lee exclamation mark? What are your thoughts on
reverse eyeliner before you talk? Can I explain what it is?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay, So reverse eyeliner is essentially the emphasis and focus
on the bottom lash line or bottom like in a
rear or the under eye, as opposed to the top.
So more traditionally.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Think of an eyeliner, it's like a wing.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes. Well, traditionally we do the focus on the top
lash line, the top water line gauge. Yes, and so
reverse liner is the focus on the bottom.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Leaving the top quite bare.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So you might not just y it doesn't have bear,
but you might just put a you know, really neutral shade,
so the virtual like impact is on the bottom. Yeah,
and it can be really really pretty. I attempted to
do it this morning. I have done it a couple
of times before, and I do really like it. But
I was in a rush this morning and I attempted
to do it and old, my LRDI you've removed it. No,
(12:11):
I just like smudged it out and then tried to
blend it into the top of it. But what color black? Oh?
I can't even see anything? Well, I mean you smautiful? Yeah.
I smudged like there was no tomorrow because I didn't
have time to take everything off because also then my
foundation was separating, and I had five minutes to like
to leave, and I was like, oh, for goodness sake,
what are you holding the one product that I do
(12:32):
use when I do want to do this. I had
two products at home. One of them is a tart
product that no longer exists, and this is the makeup
by Mario Master Pigment pro Pencil super Black.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It needs to be for me something that is so creamy.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah right, And are you doing waterline or are you
doing like underneath like a wingy out but then winging
up and then smoodging it. It's just that I went
too low this morning and it was just too much
with everything else that was going on.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But it's also fun.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You could do it with a bold color as kind
of like a pop. But then I guess then it's
a little bit upstrake to wing it out. No, No,
it's well, look I'm for me, Like, the answer is
absolutely not. You wouldn't do it, Oh my lord. It's
like it's very editorial. You see a lot on runways,
you see it in photo shoots, and oftentimes it's like
a really kind of graphic stripe or smudgie, which is
(13:27):
more wearable.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And they might go inwardly.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, so it's like that, so it sort of goes
it's like in and then out. So I think it
looks cool, but I think for the everyday person, I mean,
it depends on your eye shape. If you've got almond
eyes or large eyes, you can pull it off to
varying degrees. If you've got sort of hooded eyelids, which
I do at my age, or smaller eyes. It's just
(13:52):
the visual. So because makeup sort of all about light
and shade and how you emphasize, it's kind of like
conjuring for your eyes. When you think about it, There's
no way I could make it look flattering for me.
It would just make my eyes look tired. Yeah, it
would bring everything down. It drags the whole face down.
I mean maybe if I was going to address up
party or a makeup artist.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Did just doing it for an editorial.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
But I do nothing on the lower lash line except
for like that beautiful inner rim creamy to make me
look wide awake. If I was, you know, getting my
hair and makeup done for something fancy, and a makeup
artist did emphasis on the top and the bottom and
kind of did me a smoky wingy, but I would
never focus mostly on the bottom, leaving the top almost bare.
It just I just think it doesn't suit most people. However,
(14:36):
if you want to try it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Have fun like I did, and then just shmood it off.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's what I was going to say, Like, get your
makeup out on a Sunday afternoon, have a plan, and
see what you think of it. I'm also now I
wear glasses. That's a whole other thing. By the way,
we have to do an episode on makeup and glasses,
because guess what, I can't see my makeup when well
I'm trying to do my eye makeup. I need those
flippy glasses. Oh, you just.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Need a magnifying mirror.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You told me that that's too scary.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, but I forgot about the whole glasses thing.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yes, but look like, don't do it right before you're
going to your friend's birthday party. Get your stuff out,
have a place see if you like it. But I'm
also eye rubber and I also have to fix my
concealer under my eyes. It does. It's more high maintenance.
It can look very cool, but for me, I mean
you've just said, what are your thoughts, I'm like, that's
great that it exists. I will never do it. I
will totally have fun and try it do I think
(15:24):
it is for everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Well, if you want to give it a go, give
it a go.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
However, it's one of those things that you probably want
to master at home before you venture out in public. Yeah,
with a giant black line. Yeah, you don't dry. Yeah,
it can be cute though. Yeah, I want to know
if any of the ubies do that reverse on my
rag as part of their everyday look. Yeah, we want
to seetly soften it. I could do like a softy smoky,
but I figure she's talking like liner time for beauty
(15:56):
bite Ah, oh my god, please don't.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
What is wrong with us.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah. No. Also, there's that yummy snack called beauty bites.
It's like those collagen bars.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's a crumbled dude.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
They should sponsor us.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
They're yummy.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Mine is an Instagram ad that stalked me. Won the battle,
and I'm so glad. We both of us are suckers,
but this was a good one.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Not oh yeah, but both of us are suckers for.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Seeing something online and then shopping for it even though
we've never heard.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Of it before.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
This is it. It's called love Basics. So I host
a beauty podcast, as if you didn't know, and I,
you know, have been in the beauty industry testing makeup
for a long time. I also host a fashion podcast,
so this could go across both. Oh, and I also
love a white T shirt. How smart is this? Smudged it,
wipe it, wear it, sligh lifts makeup off your clothes
(16:44):
in seconds.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Stop stop stop, no, yes.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yes, yes, so good. So it's an Aussie brand. I
believe I'll give you some. So you know, we also
get changed a lot in the office, sometimes for different
various things. So you've got these little such cool packaging
you go, oh shit, got my foundational life. I'm a
cola and I don't have another top. I'm going to
ruin one just to show you.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
No, no, no, can we do a test?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, I'm not gonna have I already got makeup on
my top. Yeah, I know, but you if they work, Ah,
they work, I promise. So you've got like an ex
Foley eighty side, yeah, and then a smooth side, so
you just get the thing. I do know if he's
staying on my jeans, I realized, but I don't know
if I don't know if that's the design or did
I get that all real dirty?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
No, it's that's the denim.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So you literally go shit and then you wipe. I
mostly exclusively wear white T shirts. I should have my
own white te ship ran but it works kind of
on anything. So you've got makeup on something, or even toothpaste,
like you know, when you've got your full outfit on,
and then you clean your teeth and then you dribble
on yourself. No, I'm not three, I'm really clumsy.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
But do not close your mouth that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Sometimes it foams up too much. I can't fit it
all in.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do you have an electric toothbrush?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
No? But also I walk around the house as I
clean my teeth. So do why but how but then
you can't get to the basin by the time it's
all foaming at EMU. I can tell that Lee brushes
her teeth the way she applies mascara.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, vigorously correct.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Also, like basically the other day I was driving somewhere
and I had my protein shake and pulled it down myself.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That I can relate tank you.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
So you just keep a couple in your bag. You
can buy a one pack for twenty one dollars, or
you can get a two pack. It's a one pack
though like one bag and in the bag it's twenty
individual wipes go on on the website. The links are
in the show notes. It's just so clever, feel it. Yes,
I'm going to give you some because obviously you've got
wipes like normal wipes or whatever, but this is specifically
dying for makeup and fabric. Yeah, because you're chat it
(18:33):
on a leather But isn't it just so genius?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I love that?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That is so smart? You go, my friend, thank you,
well done to what's the brand called. It's called Love
Basic but with a que wipe it where it's slay
cute Love The branding. Love it well done? I know,
isn't that so smart? I wish I thought of it? Yeah,
what's your beauty bite?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Okay, it's a hack.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So this is something that I've been doing for twenty years,
but I've never talked about it. And it's so easy
if you want the most simple, like thirty second hairstyle.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So let's just say.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That this is your hair and you're like, oh, I
just want to pull it back. I want it to
look a little bit like that, So do a what's
that called? When it's a side sort of seapi a
deep side, but a messy one, A messy one. Wait,
take have long hair? No, you can have any hair length,
maybe not yours. Okay, so longer than mine, so like
shoulder length a longer okay, so messy, don't have it brushed.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So I just want you to get the top part.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So she means, like the front, what would be a
fringey bit, even if you don't have a fringe. All right,
you try to explain it while I'm doing she's got
a deep side part that's kind of messy. Then she's
pulling the majority of the what would be a fringe
to the side a bit and then I'm just gonna
start twisting it and grubbing the hair under. Oh yeah, okay,
so you've made like a headband of hair. Oh my god,
(19:48):
it looks like you've had your hair stiled bobby pin.
Oh my god, you found a bobby pin.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Well, I bought them my host Attack a few months ago.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Kelly, that's phenomenal. And you know what, that's why you
would need the dry shampoo. My hair's too shiny. It
would all slip out. But yeah, it works with dirty
like dirty but dry shampooed hair. Then just like, oh sorry,
am I so whimsical? Yes, it looks like you've had
your hair done. Also, it almost looks like a braid. Okay,
so you've done the twisty bit. Then you literally just
pulled it up and kind of twisted it at the
back of your head and stuck a bobby'vein in ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Looks like I've done a whimsical braid.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
If you will, you look like you're like out of
Little Women or something. It was actually so funny. I
was at Manly warf bar one day and I was
a bit pissed, and the girl at the bar was like,
oh my goodness, your hair, and I said, oh, show
you how to do it, sure, because she was complimenting
me on it, and she goes, oh my goodness, please, no,
don't take your hair and it looks so pretty, and
I said no, no, no, no, I took it out
and then yeah, thirty second. That wasn't even thirty seconds,
(20:41):
that's ten seconds. It's that fast.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Her mind was blown today.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't know why. This is the seventh year of
you beauty, and I just forgot that I do that
all the time. Maybe because it's something that I literally
just forgot that I do because I do it so easily,
and that is so good for our oily hair friend.
Try that, yes, love it. Well, that's it for today. Unfortunately,
what a great episode, though, I'm going to go home
and cry about how much Kelly hates me. I know,
(21:06):
I hate you so much because I've bought your passion
fruits from the tree that lent me hit. She picks
me passionate fruits. So that's it. Send us a DM
on Instagram. You know what your questions are or what
you want to see or hear about. Don't forget her.
On TikTok at you beauty pod, I went on to
TikTok the other day and uploaded some stuff. I'm trying
to do it. I'm trying to do I always get
like a burst of energy every couple of weeks and
then I'm like, Niah, come't be bothered. And so on
(21:28):
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Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'll do the reverse eyeliner if you'd like.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, we're gonna make her do that. And This episode
of You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood and Sophie Campbell,
with audio production by Tina Madeloff and video production by
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So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Makeup is my therapy in love.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel jailtyer body. Hello,
and welcome to Your Beauty, the Podcast for Your Face.
I'm Lee Camber, I'm Kelly McCarron, and I have very
dry scale legs today, but we're not going to look
at those because I'm wearing a T shirt that says
I love pastuff. No wa, what does it say? How
good is pasta?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Which you know?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
The best? The best? So no one look at my legs.
Everyone look at my T shirt and let's do some
beauty stuff. How are you? I'm good? But I do
have something funny to read you. Okay, we have a review.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh the vibes are off.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh this was left on Apple podcast for years. Do
you look at those sometimes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh god, lock of a punishment.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's the sess bit of people. No, I mean, except
unless you've given us a lovely review. But also, like
I just think that they're quite funny. I've got very
thick skins, so I can deal with it. Lee and
Kelly's dislike for each other is palpable. We get this
a lot, actually helpable. Well, I have a reason, but
let me finish this first. It's so awkward to listen
to used to love, but it's really awkward listening now.
(01:27):
Exclamation point palpable. My dislike for you apparently palpable. I
have a theory fabulous Lately, I think my thing is
the more I know someone and like them, the meaner
I am to them generally. Yeah, so I reckon if
it's a long time listener.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
When we were like overly.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Nice and place to each other colleagues, we didn't know
each other. But well, now you come over to my house,
you can put pat on, you clean my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We'll tell each other off for different things.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I give you clothes for Lenny. We just text each
other one random, random or rant about different But also,
what makes content good is not that we try to
it on purpose. But you won't have a bit of
tension because if you were both just like yeah, I
love that product too, that would be so boring.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, but yeah, so I'd just like to say on
the record, loll.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And we are very very good friends. We txt every
single day. I assure you my love for the woman
has never been more intense, if not less, maybe, which
is maybe why I'm mean to it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Maybe it was my friends.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I read a study recently that says, if you neg
your friends and super close, if you troll like I
troll you often when I get like teasing you about
your FRANZOI yes, that's life, and how old I am
that I can't work very That is love? Anyway, that's
a bit of a BTS. Don't forget about YouTube, So
now you can watch us. There's a whole Mum and
(02:51):
mea YouTube channel. But then there's a new beauty YouTube
channel that you can just go and see us straight up,
Like why wouldn't you want to? It's at you Beauty
podcast on YouTube, So go watch us. But of course
we're still in your ears now. Today we answer to questions.
We've got two really good ones. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was quite funny though, I was like, yeah, they
got short questions. Dane Ly's no, I've got big lists.
You love a list.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, I like to answer the question.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I just bought in one product, Oh good oath. I
couldn't help, but wonder.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Asked me anything. You ask many questions, so Lamb has
sent us a DM. Hi, girls, I'm so confused about
how often I should be washing my hair. I've got fine,
oily hair, and I feel like I need to wash
it every day, but everyone keeps telling me that's bad
for it. My hairdresser says every second day, my mom
says twice a week, and TikTok is telling me to
(03:39):
try hair training and go longer between washers. I'm so overwhelmed.
What's the actual answer and does it change with different
hair types?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
See? My answer for that is simply do whatever you please.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I love. I have very fine hair, believe it or not.
I just have so much of it. I often get
DMS saying, Wow, your hair's so thick and volumess. I'm like, no,
I've just got same buttloads of it. And guess what,
I'm forty three now in my twenties, I double this
amount of hair. It's all downhill, so every single strand
is fine. But I've got a lot of it, and
I'm an oily, oily mofo so lem. I've been on
(04:15):
this journey. I've tried hair training. I've told myself that
it worked, it doesn't work, or I just don't like
the feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, yuck.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I washed my hair five times a week, let's say,
and then maybe you know if it's a Friday night
and I'm not doing anything. Honest, I'm a morning hair washer.
You're usually a night hair washer. Oh, I usually do
it during the day when I'm working from Oh that's clever. Yeah,
I just I have to Otherwise you have to blow
dry it, because now I'm I'm officially a grown up,
and I don't just let my hair air dry anymore
(04:46):
because I know that it. Guess what I did last
night because we had an early start this morning, and
I needed to do my roots because it's a whole
other thing.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
She's just cheeryot trick and gray.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Correct. So I colored my roots, washed my hair. But
it was bedtime. I went to bed with wet hair,
which is naughnty, but I just went sent apart two
little pigtails so I could sleep like that because if
I slept with it, well, it's almost too short to
stay in a one thing. But if I slept with
it out, I wake up like a chicken, like a Yeah,
so two little pigtails, and then when I woke up
it was still a bit damn. But I could quickly
dry it and do it. Yeah, but normally anyway, normally
(05:17):
I'm a morning washer. I would do most mornings. Say
it's a Sunday, we're not leaving the house, so we're
just going to the park or whatever. I will just
whack it back or put a hat on. But I
wash my hair most mornings. You do you, I want
you to follow Abby Jung on Instagram. She's phenomenal. She's
a trichologist and she does a lot of really great
hair products, and she's very pro supermarket brands, which I
(05:38):
love because you know, the Aorbays of the world are fantastic.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But very but like, yeah, you need to mix it
up a little bit. You save your Aorbaysbay.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I don't know, Excas Cara Star's expensive, but it's fine.
I just think it matters about what the products are
you using, like ichop and change, because you've got to
realize that your hair product is asking your hair to
do something. So if you're using smoothing and moisturizing, it's
gonna do that every time you wash your hair, and
then your hair will be really smooth and moisturized. And
for us fine hair oily girls, that means it'll be
(06:11):
too limp and flat and oily, So you want to
use a volumizing product or like a there's products for
like oily roots, dry ends. And also it all comes
down to your scalp. So your scalp's like an extension
of your head, I mean your face, and you want
to make sure you're caring for your scalp because you
can kind of minimize the oil. But if you're an
(06:31):
oily person, you're an oily person. So here's products I
love and use. I didn't even mean to do this,
but a lot of them are from Woolies. So there's
a brand called my Soda Australia. It's Balance shampoo and
conditioner and it's for oily prone hair. It's really good
because what it does is obviously removes the oil from
the root and kind of if you use that over time,
the oil's like okay, okay, you want me to go away.
(06:52):
It's not going to change your scalp type or hair type.
But it's really good. One I love so much. I
just bought it. I think it was in a while ago.
Priceline had the everything ten dollars thing, like every shampoo
conditions ten dollars it's the John Freeder Pro Filler. It's
like a volumizing, oh sorry, thickening shampoo and conditioner for
fine hair. So while it's not for oily hair specifically
(07:14):
because we've got fine hair, it kind of just gets
more air in your hair and so your hair doesn't
feel so way down and start to feel greasy. I
always have that shampoo and condition in my bathroom or
a backup, but I'm chopping and changing all the time.
One more that I swear we used to have here,
but I don't know if we do anymore. But I
found it on Amazon. It's called the Gannia Frucktus Coconut
Water Shampoo for oily roots and dry ends. So like,
(07:37):
obviously the ends of your hair aren't oily, but a
product like that is fantastic. And then in terms of
dry shampoo, because you know you're allowed to wash your
hair every day, that's fine, but if you don't want
to remember a few weeks months ago now the Chloran
for oily hair, yeah, dry shampoo, because I was saying
I didn't really ever get the chloran dry shampoo thing.
(07:57):
And as a fine haired oily person, sometimes dry shampoo
just makes it feel dirty. In another way or really obvious.
So the chloran it's a green bottle, it's got net
or something for oily hair normal like really does mop
up the oil and make the star last longer without
feeling that kind of gritty dirty instead of greasy dirty. Yeah,
so you do, you wash it as much as you want.
(08:20):
Also for me, because I used to have long hair.
Now that it's short, it's so much easier to wash
every day in star whereas it used to be long,
and so now don't feel like you're damaging it as
bad because there's not as much hair to be damaging totally.
And like the joy of being long was when it
was really dirty, I would just do a slip back bun,
which I can't really do, but it's fine. Just make
sure you're not using something too hydrating or too stripping. Yeah, like,
(08:43):
don't use a clarifying shampoo every single no, but once
a week for us oily girls is fabulous because it's
gonna lift off the dry shampoo the oil.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I have very similar hair, like I should, And when
I say should, if I don't wash my hair every
day and didn't use dry shampoo, it would be very.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, like it's gross.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I wash my hair probably five times a fortnight, okay,
so twice a week roughly, but like then I'll chuck
in an extra on the weekends. But how do you
get away with it?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Because I use half a can of dry shampoo.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I got those friends and I'm like, your hair looks amazing,
and they're like, oh, thanks, had a blow draw like
four days ago. I'm like, oh no, no, no, yeah,
I just And it's simply because I don't hate the
feeling of dry shampoo like some of them I hate
and I have to wash out.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But a lot of them even if I don't love it,
Like I.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Shampoo this morning just to get a bit of volume
and juju, but not it wasn't to mop up oil.
It was just to go so it was a little bit. Yeah,
so I did it this morning to mop up a
lot of oil.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Because I don't wash it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It doesn't look oiler at all. But it also doesn't
look super gritty, right, Maybe that's no. It just looks
cool blonde hair that's quite damaged. Yeah, so chemical damage,
Well mean you probably want to wash it less so
you don't damage this stuff. And it also looks more
lived in textured anyway, because yes it is, yeah, but
you want to wash it less in general if you've
like lightened your hair or chemically treated it, because the
(10:09):
end don't need all that. And now that I am
a grown up and blow dry my hair because I've
realized that my hair needs it in order to look presentable,
I don't want to do that every single day. Oh god, no,
I'd have the time.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Or the energy for it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But I do think that that is one of those
things where, I mean, everything with beauty is just you
do you because it's just.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So personal and yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But also I think it's different for your hair. I mean,
obviously you've got a care for your scalp, but your
hair's dead, whereas your face is your skin is alive
and will react, whereas this is dead protein. Your hair
and your nails are dead protein that's literally growing out
of your body. So exactly do what you want. But TikTok,
don't listen to your hairdresser. Do like push your hair
whenever you yeah, And when a hair dress is like,
(10:51):
oh my god, I can't believe me. Color you hair
at home, I'm like, it's dead. I'll do it. I'll
be quiet. You just don't want me to do it
so that I have to pay you to do it. Like,
just as Lee said, think about what products are using.
So you're not using the clarifying or really really nourishing
because that's just going to weigh it down. But you
do you. Yeah, So Jemima sent us a short and
(11:13):
sharper DM of which we have many thoughts. Well I do,
Kelly and Lee exclamation mark? What are your thoughts on
reverse eyeliner before you talk? Can I explain what it is?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay, So reverse eyeliner is essentially the emphasis and focus
on the bottom lash line or bottom like in a
rear or the under eye, as opposed to the top.
So more traditionally.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Think of an eyeliner, it's like a wing.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes. Well, traditionally we do the focus on the top
lash line, the top water line gauge. Yes, and so
reverse liner is the focus on the bottom.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Leaving the top quite bare.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So you might not just y it doesn't have bear,
but you might just put a you know, really neutral shade,
so the virtual like impact is on the bottom. Yeah,
and it can be really really pretty. I attempted to
do it this morning. I have done it a couple
of times before, and I do really like it. But
I was in a rush this morning and I attempted
to do it and old, my LRDI you've removed it. No,
(12:11):
I just like smudged it out and then tried to
blend it into the top of it. But what color black? Oh?
I can't even see anything? Well, I mean you smautiful? Yeah.
I smudged like there was no tomorrow because I didn't
have time to take everything off because also then my
foundation was separating, and I had five minutes to like
to leave, and I was like, oh, for goodness sake,
what are you holding the one product that I do
(12:32):
use when I do want to do this. I had
two products at home. One of them is a tart
product that no longer exists, and this is the makeup
by Mario Master Pigment pro Pencil super Black.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It needs to be for me something that is so creamy.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah right, And are you doing waterline or are you
doing like underneath like a wingy out but then winging
up and then smoodging it. It's just that I went
too low this morning and it was just too much
with everything else that was going on.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But it's also fun.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You could do it with a bold color as kind
of like a pop. But then I guess then it's
a little bit upstrake to wing it out. No, No,
it's well, look I'm for me, Like, the answer is
absolutely not. You wouldn't do it, Oh my lord. It's
like it's very editorial. You see a lot on runways,
you see it in photo shoots, and oftentimes it's like
a really kind of graphic stripe or smudgie, which is
(13:27):
more wearable.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And they might go inwardly.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, so it's like that, so it sort of goes
it's like in and then out. So I think it
looks cool, but I think for the everyday person, I mean,
it depends on your eye shape. If you've got almond
eyes or large eyes, you can pull it off to
varying degrees. If you've got sort of hooded eyelids, which
I do at my age, or smaller eyes. It's just
(13:52):
the visual. So because makeup sort of all about light
and shade and how you emphasize, it's kind of like
conjuring for your eyes. When you think about it, There's
no way I could make it look flattering for me.
It would just make my eyes look tired. Yeah, it
would bring everything down. It drags the whole face down.
I mean maybe if I was going to address up
party or a makeup artist.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Did just doing it for an editorial.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
But I do nothing on the lower lash line except
for like that beautiful inner rim creamy to make me
look wide awake. If I was, you know, getting my
hair and makeup done for something fancy, and a makeup
artist did emphasis on the top and the bottom and
kind of did me a smoky wingy, but I would
never focus mostly on the bottom, leaving the top almost bare.
It just I just think it doesn't suit most people. However,
(14:36):
if you want to try it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Have fun like I did, and then just shmood it off.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's what I was going to say, Like, get your
makeup out on a Sunday afternoon, have a plan, and
see what you think of it. I'm also now I
wear glasses. That's a whole other thing. By the way,
we have to do an episode on makeup and glasses,
because guess what, I can't see my makeup when well
I'm trying to do my eye makeup. I need those
flippy glasses. Oh, you just.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Need a magnifying mirror.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You told me that that's too scary.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, but I forgot about the whole glasses thing.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yes, but look like, don't do it right before you're
going to your friend's birthday party. Get your stuff out,
have a place see if you like it. But I'm
also eye rubber and I also have to fix my
concealer under my eyes. It does. It's more high maintenance.
It can look very cool, but for me, I mean
you've just said, what are your thoughts, I'm like, that's
great that it exists. I will never do it. I
will totally have fun and try it do I think
(15:24):
it is for everyone.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Well, if you want to give it a go, give
it a go.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
However, it's one of those things that you probably want
to master at home before you venture out in public. Yeah,
with a giant black line. Yeah, you don't dry. Yeah,
it can be cute though. Yeah, I want to know
if any of the ubies do that reverse on my
rag as part of their everyday look. Yeah, we want
to seetly soften it. I could do like a softy smoky,
but I figure she's talking like liner time for beauty
(15:56):
bite Ah, oh my god, please don't.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
What is wrong with us.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah. No. Also, there's that yummy snack called beauty bites.
It's like those collagen bars.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's a crumbled dude.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
They should sponsor us.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
They're yummy.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Mine is an Instagram ad that stalked me. Won the battle,
and I'm so glad. We both of us are suckers,
but this was a good one.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Not oh yeah, but both of us are suckers for.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Seeing something online and then shopping for it even though
we've never heard.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Of it before.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
This is it. It's called love Basics. So I host
a beauty podcast, as if you didn't know, and I,
you know, have been in the beauty industry testing makeup
for a long time. I also host a fashion podcast,
so this could go across both. Oh, and I also
love a white T shirt. How smart is this? Smudged it,
wipe it, wear it, sligh lifts makeup off your clothes
(16:44):
in seconds.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Stop stop stop, no, yes.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yes, yes, so good. So it's an Aussie brand. I
believe I'll give you some. So you know, we also
get changed a lot in the office, sometimes for different
various things. So you've got these little such cool packaging
you go, oh shit, got my foundational life. I'm a
cola and I don't have another top. I'm going to
ruin one just to show you.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
No, no, no, can we do a test?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, I'm not gonna have I already got makeup on
my top. Yeah, I know, but you if they work, Ah,
they work, I promise. So you've got like an ex
Foley eighty side, yeah, and then a smooth side, so
you just get the thing. I do know if he's
staying on my jeans, I realized, but I don't know
if I don't know if that's the design or did
I get that all real dirty?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
No, it's that's the denim.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So you literally go shit and then you wipe. I
mostly exclusively wear white T shirts. I should have my
own white te ship ran but it works kind of
on anything. So you've got makeup on something, or even toothpaste,
like you know, when you've got your full outfit on,
and then you clean your teeth and then you dribble
on yourself. No, I'm not three, I'm really clumsy.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
But do not close your mouth that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Sometimes it foams up too much. I can't fit it
all in.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do you have an electric toothbrush?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
No? But also I walk around the house as I
clean my teeth. So do why but how but then
you can't get to the basin by the time it's
all foaming at EMU. I can tell that Lee brushes
her teeth the way she applies mascara.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, vigorously correct.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Also, like basically the other day I was driving somewhere
and I had my protein shake and pulled it down myself.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That I can relate tank you.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
So you just keep a couple in your bag. You
can buy a one pack for twenty one dollars, or
you can get a two pack. It's a one pack
though like one bag and in the bag it's twenty
individual wipes go on on the website. The links are
in the show notes. It's just so clever, feel it. Yes,
I'm going to give you some because obviously you've got
wipes like normal wipes or whatever, but this is specifically
dying for makeup and fabric. Yeah, because you're chat it
(18:33):
on a leather But isn't it just so genius?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I love that?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That is so smart? You go, my friend, thank you,
well done to what's the brand called. It's called Love
Basic but with a que wipe it where it's slay
cute Love The branding. Love it well done? I know,
isn't that so smart? I wish I thought of it? Yeah,
what's your beauty bite?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Okay, it's a hack.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So this is something that I've been doing for twenty years,
but I've never talked about it. And it's so easy
if you want the most simple, like thirty second hairstyle.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So let's just say.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That this is your hair and you're like, oh, I
just want to pull it back. I want it to
look a little bit like that, So do a what's
that called? When it's a side sort of seapi a
deep side, but a messy one, A messy one. Wait,
take have long hair? No, you can have any hair length,
maybe not yours. Okay, so longer than mine, so like
shoulder length a longer okay, so messy, don't have it brushed.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So I just want you to get the top part.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So she means, like the front, what would be a
fringey bit, even if you don't have a fringe. All right,
you try to explain it while I'm doing she's got
a deep side part that's kind of messy. Then she's
pulling the majority of the what would be a fringe
to the side a bit and then I'm just gonna
start twisting it and grubbing the hair under. Oh yeah, okay,
so you've made like a headband of hair. Oh my god,
(19:48):
it looks like you've had your hair stiled bobby pin.
Oh my god, you found a bobby pin.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Well, I bought them my host Attack a few months ago.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Kelly, that's phenomenal. And you know what, that's why you
would need the dry shampoo. My hair's too shiny. It
would all slip out. But yeah, it works with dirty
like dirty but dry shampooed hair. Then just like, oh sorry,
am I so whimsical? Yes, it looks like you've had
your hair done. Also, it almost looks like a braid. Okay,
so you've done the twisty bit. Then you literally just
pulled it up and kind of twisted it at the
back of your head and stuck a bobby'vein in ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Looks like I've done a whimsical braid.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
If you will, you look like you're like out of
Little Women or something. It was actually so funny. I
was at Manly warf bar one day and I was
a bit pissed, and the girl at the bar was like,
oh my goodness, your hair, and I said, oh, show
you how to do it, sure, because she was complimenting
me on it, and she goes, oh my goodness, please, no,
don't take your hair and it looks so pretty, and
I said no, no, no, no, I took it out
and then yeah, thirty second. That wasn't even thirty seconds,
(20:41):
that's ten seconds. It's that fast.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Her mind was blown today.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't know why. This is the seventh year of
you beauty, and I just forgot that I do that
all the time. Maybe because it's something that I literally
just forgot that I do because I do it so easily,
and that is so good for our oily hair friend.
Try that, yes, love it. Well, that's it for today. Unfortunately,
what a great episode, though, I'm going to go home
and cry about how much Kelly hates me. I know,
(21:06):
I hate you so much because I've bought your passion
fruits from the tree that lent me hit. She picks
me passionate fruits. So that's it. Send us a DM
on Instagram. You know what your questions are or what
you want to see or hear about. Don't forget her.
On TikTok at you beauty pod, I went on to
TikTok the other day and uploaded some stuff. I'm trying
to do it. I'm trying to do I always get
like a burst of energy every couple of weeks and
then I'm like, Niah, come't be bothered. And so on
(21:28):
Instagram and YouTube, We're at you Beauty Podcast. Send us
your questions. Do you want us to review something? Do
you want to see Kelly do something else to her hair.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'll do the reverse eyeliner if you'd like.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, we're gonna make her do that. And This episode
of You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood and Sophie Campbell,
with audio production by Tina Madeloff and video production by
Marlena Bye Bye
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