September 14, 2025 • 21 mins
Time to embrace Taylor Swift's showgirl era! In this week's Beauty Edit, we're diving into why orange is about to dominate your beauty routine, from matte orange lips to tonal eye looks, and breaking down the vanilla and caramel fragrance takeover that's got everyone smelling like dessert, plus why Gen Z are ditching their long layers for chic pixie cuts.
They're also solving the eternal working mum dilemma: should you invest in keratin treatments or that fancy Dyson straightener? The answer might surprise you.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Makeup is my therapy in love.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty of body. Hello,
and welcome to your beauty I'm Lee Campbell. I'm Kelly McCurry.
Before we get into the questions of the week, let's
catch up on what's happening in beauty land. Here are
the top beauty headlines.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything
you missed in the beauty world. I'm Cas Green, morning
editor at MoMA Maha and your biggest beauty nerd.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
And I'm Amy Clark, Mama MIA's lifestyle editor. And I
have a really big pimple on my chin this morning,
so I.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Love that for me.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Here's what's trending. Okay, So Taylor Swift showgull orange theme
is coming for your beauty routine. So, Amy, I need
to talk about my girl, Taylor Swift. She's been getting
engaged to her now fiance, Travis Kelsey. She's about to
release her twelfth studio album, The Life of a Show,
and she has a lot going on but what does
that have to do with beauty?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Actually, it has everything to do with beauty, because, as
we know, anything that Taylor Swift does seeps into the
cultural zeitgeist of trends, including the colors associated with her albums.
Case in point, Google searches and group chats immediately exploded
a few weeks back when Taylor appeared on Travis's New
Heights Sports podcast wearing a matt To orange lipstick. For
(01:35):
anyone wondering, there's a strong chance that it's the hard
to find Nars Morocco lipstick. However, I highly recommend the
Mac Powder Kiss Velvet Blur lipstick in All Star and
Ees if you're looking for an alternative available in Australia.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
So Amy, this tells us a lot about what we're
going to see across fashion, home and beauty, and the
answer is a whole lot of orange orange lipsticks, blushes,
eyeshadow looks, and maybe even manicures, which I'm excited for.
The specific bright orange shade associated with the life of
a show girl. I must admit it's not the easiest
shade to wear, but think of it more as a
color spectrum and inspiration. So we can go from warm
(02:10):
peach and punchy coral to deeper shades of burnt orange
and also caramel.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
My favorite way to wear color trends is to lean
all the way in with a tonal look. So pick
your shade of orange and wear it as a wash
of color over the eyes, the lips, and the cheeks.
Even an orange French tip or a feature nail is
another way that you could participate in the trend without
having to go full blown orange. Gen Z are just
(02:35):
discovering the pixie cut. So according to Pinterest's latest trend report,
gen z searches for chic pixie are up two thousand,
four hundred and thirty five percent, which is kind of wild.
And it's moving away from the long layers and the
curtain bangs and towards the ultra short styles made famous
by the likes of Audrey Hepburn, Michelle Williams, Emma Watson Cass.
(02:58):
Why do we think gen Z are getting the chop okay?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So, as a girl who once cut her hair and
majorly regretted it, I have some thoughts. Really, it's all
about no soldier for the nineties. A pixie cut has
that glos glamorous kind of editorial vibe. It shows off
your neckline and draws attention to the raw beauty of
your features.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Also, speaking as a millennial here, authenticity and embracing you
over what is deemed conventionally attractive does appear to be
what really speaks to gen Z when it comes to
their beauty esthetic. So, alongside other nineties trends like grunge,
ee makeup and deeper shades, it's kind of a rebellion
against the supermodel blowout or clean girl slick.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Why does everyone want to smell like vanilla and caramel
right now? If you feel like salted caramel and vanilla
scented body lotions, hammers and fragrances are popping up.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
All over your feed.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
That's because they are thanks to recent launchers from brands
like Fante Rare and the new to Mecca brand Flur
Smelling like a dessert is all over my TikTok feed.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
It kind of feels like we've gone back to the
early noughties and I'm spraying Britney Spears fantasy at my
locker at high school. But gormand fragrances that were traditionally
reserved for the home, like the infamous Glasshouse, Taha Candle
dominating new launchers in the bath, body care, and personal
fragrance categories. Even I've seen caramel scented skincare.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
So vanilla isn't just a vibe. There's actually a lot
of sales data that can back this up. Amy, So
within forty eight hours of launching Flour, sold out products
include the Vanilla skin DP and their heavy cream hair
and body mist. But these are not your mother's kind
of sickly sweet vanilla scents. We're seeing juxtaposition of rich
sweet notes with contrasting deeper sents like sandalwood, pink pepper,
(04:38):
and musk.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I think we're going to see even more of this
caramel and vanilla resurgence come holiday season because it's also
just a nice alternative to your standard Christmas sense and
fun fact, sugary, sweet gormand fragrance notes are known within
the beauty industry as catnip for men, So do with
that information what you will.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Now, let's get into all your beauty q and a's
with Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I couldn't help for wonder ask me anything. You ask
plenty questions.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So our first one is from Jessica Hilean Kelly loved
the podcast. Quick question, it's a spicy sunscreen question.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I don't only eat sunscreen, you don't want spice.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, can I layer a tinted mineral sunscreen on top
of a chemical sunscreen? I have a chemical sunscreen that
I absolutely adore, but I am looking at incorporating a
tinted SPF product for a more my skin, but better look.
I've read mixed opinions on layering the two types of sunscreens,
and I thought you may be able to provide clarification.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Thanks. We absolutely can, so just a caveat that, due
to the regulations in place by the Therapeutic Goods Administration,
we can't recommend specific products. The TDA does a lot
of good things, but please let us recommend specific sunscreen
because I've tried them all and women find it hard
to find a good one. Jessica, you absolutely can. This
is actually perfect. You can layer them in this order.
(05:59):
Let me explain so a quickerminder if you confused about
the different types of sunscreen. So mineral sunscreen is also
called a physical sunscreen or also called an inorganic sunscreen.
So if you see those terms all the same thing,
that essentially and I'm really like giving you top line here.
Sits on the surface of the skin, whereas a chemical
sunscreen another name for that is an organic sunscreen. They
(06:20):
contain like little organic molecules and chemical bonds and they
absorb energy from the UV radiation, so it feels a
bit more like skincare. So, yes, you've said you've got a.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Chemeneral sunscreens the ones that wall over the news last month,
they were because you know plot twist, they all actually
come from the same manufacturer.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And yet I mean generally speaking, they're harder to get
an elegant formula because they're creating a physical layer. They're
going to be thick and sticky, which is why when
you do find a good one, you're like, whoa, yeah,
yes you can layer, and that is the perfect way
to layer. So your chemical sunscreen first, So you put
your chemical sunscreen on that's absorbed into the skin to
be effective. So you just put it on your like
last step of your skin care. You know how they say,
(07:00):
wait twenty minutes, the jury's out on that, but they
get a little hand fan speed it up. Yeah, but
that's mostly for chemical sunscreens because they kind of go
in and sit down. They need to sit down, so
then you find their seats. Yeah, so you've and I
generally wait, anyway, do my skincare. Then I've done, let's say,
for example, my chemical sunscreen. Then you want to add
your tinted mineral wonderful. That is great. That is basically
(07:24):
like adding an added bonus. So that kind of sits
on the surface of the skin and reflects and deflects
the UV rays. It's like kneading iron.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So you eat a steak, but then have a supplement
just for funzies.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Sure, except for don't do that. Go to your doctor
and get tested for your iron first. Yeah, I mean,
I know, I know, I know. Yes, it's like packing
an overcoat when you've already got a jacket on. Oh,
a rain coach if you will. Yes, And so a
tinted version is really good because that generally will have
iron oxides in it, which is a form of sunscreen
like a SPF protection. So you're combining the two. So
(07:57):
if you let your chemical settle ideally ten to fifteen minutes,
do your hair, put your shoes on, I don't know,
and then you're topping up with your mineral. But you
can also layer two chemicals. I often do that. So
you can do chemical sunscreen and then another chemical sunscreen.
So I'll do like a chemical clear you know nothing,
and then I'll do a chemical tinted. Reason being is
you will never wear enough tinted sunscreen, whether it's chemical
(08:19):
or mineral, to get the full SBF protection. You just can't.
You would look like you've got sixteen layers a foundation on.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I have such good example of that, the cosmetics SBF fifty.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, it's so thick. Years ago, Hannah English did that
for Mama Mea. We'll link it in the show notes.
She used the half teaspoon, yes, and she it looked
like she was dripping in foundation. You can never do that,
but you can layer chemical and chemical. That's absolutely fine.
Just keep in mind, say you've got an SPF thirty
sunscreen and then you layer on an SBF twenty. The
(08:50):
numbers don't add up. It's not mass. So you've got
SPF thirty and sp fifty for example, that's not SPF eighty.
It doesn't work like that. Also, two chemicals might pill.
I know, one's the different ones that I can. You
know a chemical and a physical might pill. So just
learn what layers work together. Also, just if you want
more or you want to find the right infol on
that stuff, Doctor Michelle Wong had her on New Beauty
(09:10):
lad Muffins Science. She is phenomenal. She's got a whole
website and if you do want more information that is
factual and scientific and correct, head to doctor Michelle Mung's website.
So what I love firstly is she's a genius and
she missed us most like all skincare stuff at mostly sunscreen.
She also then does like a video version and a
written version, depending on how you like to consume your content.
(09:32):
Oh yes, But one thing that oftentimes when we're having
this chemical versus mineral debate is people think that chemical
sunscreens absorb the heat and will making malasma worse. And
that's really not true. She says. Chemical sunscreens do not
significantly cause malassama by heating the skin. Both chemical and
physical sunscreen work by absorbing UV and converting it to heat.
(09:52):
But the amount of heat generated is so small it's undetectable.
So just use what you like, Yeah, whatever you like,
and use enough of it, reapply frequently. Sunscreen is only
one form of sun protection. Hat sunglasses, up. If whatever close,
get out of the sun please.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I love that. Yeah, And you know what, the biggest
rule is your favorite son screen. We don't care what
it is as long as.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You're using it. Yeah. Like, for example, I did my
skincare this morning, I did my sun screen and then
I did I think I did my hair and everything.
I was like foundation while west today and I ended
up wearing an SBA fifty tinted sunscreen. But just because
I liked the finish as a foundation exactly. You'd already
actually put watching for something and I'm like, oh, I
like the way this sits on it. Yeah, all right.
Question two Becky asked, Hi, Kelly and Lee, O wef
(10:39):
listener OnlyFans? Do you think? She means?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh, g I first time Lee's actually got a secret
toe channel.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm like, you are on the wrong place. Come over
to my toe. Don't showed it up world. It was
a great idea. Oh my god, you could note. I
saw a girl the other day she partially chooses food
and puts it in a bag and posts it people.
She's making thousands of dollars. We're in the wrong job.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You could do something with your weird toes.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
To Becka says, I'm a fellow lazy girl and I
need your opinion. I have dark brown, wavy, fine hair
and not heap so it thanks to postpardon and I'm
a morning shower person. Firstly, I love this detail. This
helps us so as much detail.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Now. Sometimes we read a question, we're like, we need
to know this, this, this, Yeah, so thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You are a good girl, Becka. She says, I'm heading
back to full time work with two kids, and I
want to know should I invest in nanoplasty or hair
keratin or the wet to dry dice and straightener. I
usually just air dry or do a quick blow dry.
Thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks girls.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I would like you to look at my hair Lee
as a exhibit a of y.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Are you Becca but blonde?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No you're not. Your hair looks great today?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Nope, I look like a bin chicken. Look at the
fried flyaways. Which is why I'm like, I reckon the
treatments over just a blow dry, because a blow dry
your hair is still gonna look not right.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Every morning, even if it's you won't want to.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
If you've got the keratin or the nane o, whatever
it's called. I always think of like a nose Me too.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think nanoplasty like getting your nose done.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, but that's right PLASTI But anyway, I just think
that do that one because then it's just worth the
investment and then you literally can just let it air dry.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I agree, it saves you time. I could not agree more. Oh,
let me explain the difference between those two things. So
because you've tried both of them, right, I not. Well,
I get a version of it. So, I mean, it's
essentially all the same thing, but they like to market
each other off each other, to say ones where it's
like having gel or buyer, Like, it's just all shit
on your nails. It's gonna make some look good, but
it'll do some damage. So firstly, I would definitely get
(12:40):
the smoothing slash straightening treatment because every morning you wake
up you will love yourself sick. Yes, it's an outlayer
of around let's just say, roughly five hundred dollars, but
it will last as long as your hair grows. So
your hair will grow out from your head, that part
will be natural texture, but where they started at the
root that will continue to be the beautiful smooth texture. Yes,
(13:01):
so I probably get I mean I need it, minds
to you, but ideally every five months. And because your
hair grows fast though fast, and particularly where it's short,
I can't really do this back when it's gross because
I've always had really straight, quite nice hair, but postpart
in mine just went a totally different texture. Rude. I've
got lions main heads, not a nice postpartum. I have
less time and someone at my ankles, and you're giving
(13:22):
me worse hair. Yeah, rude, rude. So there's like, let's
just say keratin and nanoplasty just to give you the
two sort of categories. Keratin is aimed at straightening and
smoothing frizz. They use keratin. They used to use formaldehyde.
That's why nanoplasty loves saying keratin's bad. You can get
that really sort of smooth, glossy finish. It reduces frizz,
(13:44):
add shine and smoothness. Brands don't use for maldehyde anymore.
They've got a replacement chemical. If you wanted like dead
pins straight, like straight straight straight, you'd go for keratin.
And that would be for someone that maybe has like
raily curly or coily hair that wants straight.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
That also is quite frizzy, and then they want it
straight because if you had like our hair, it would
look awful.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, you can also do different levels once you've so
nanoplasty is more about treatment and nourishing your hair, while
alsot straightening it. So they use what's called nanotechnology he's
the word, and amino acids, so you'll get like a
naturally looking smoothness, but not ultra sleek. Do whatever you want.
I personally get karasilk, so it's keratin treatment from kerras silk.
(14:29):
Karasilk's name is because they used to this technology, used
to use real silk. Now they leave the little wormies
alone and they use a vegan version of silk. So
when I go and get mine done, they say, do
you want like there's names for it, let's say like
light or heavy, and I've had both. And it's so
that like you say, you've got wavy hair, a nice wave,
you probably just want no frize, but steal some texture
(14:49):
and body. Yeah. Gone are the days where it looks
like you've like helmeted. Yes, And for me they literally
just blow dry your hair, put the solution on, straighten
your hair, wash it out. I'm done in an hour.
Oh put my hair up. I don't have to wear
it home for three days. I need to try it.
Oh it's life changing, Kelly, I know life change. Need
to try it. So these are all similar versions. Just
(15:09):
research what your place does or what friends have done,
or jump in the ubidy Facebook group or your community
group on Facebook. You know, if you're in like your
Suburbs group. I love my Suburbs group, and say hey,
I'm thinking of this. Has anyone got one or has
anyone got to sell them? You will love yourself sick.
Then of course you can still heat stylle if you
want to, but I just then use an air dry barm.
Most days, like today, I did an air dry barm
and then because we're a bit later than normal, I
(15:31):
just did a few little tongs and it looks so pretty.
I mean I wouldn't have that wave without the tongue,
but I wouldn't have any So this is not air dried.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
This is dicendu and no I did it. It doesn't
I look like a bitten chicken.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's awful. I just think, you know, a couple hundred
bucks five hundred, six hundred dollars is a lot of money,
but the costper where the convenience and the time is money. Yep,
I would do it. And look if you don't love it,
or you think it was too expensive or whatever, you
don't have to have a do.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's so funny how people have different priorities when it
comes to their routines as well. It's like Kelly has
got six different shades of pink on her eyelids.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh my god, but her hair is. And also for me,
anything that gives me time back, I will pay anything
because time is life. Like, can't buy time? Well you
can if you get caroten like, do you know what
I mean? That's the only way to buy hacks hacks
hack City. What's your beauty bite?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well, last week I had my little wise words that
were simplifying how we do skincare. Today I have a
little bit of a reminder and it's also coming off
the back of our chat about sunscreen at the start
of the app, So little reminder. Toxicity is in the dose.
(16:44):
Water is toxic if you have too much of it.
So that's why apps like I see people using that
stupid Yuka app or you know, they'll put and they'll
say it's got this in it, So it's a red
because it's toxic.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, it is if you swum in it, like if
you ate enough apple seeds, you die, like the little
things that little seeds in apple core.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The process that companies have to go through to be
able to sell products on the shelves in Australia is
so stringent. And I promise you no one's trying to
kill you because then you can't spend your money.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yes, so true.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Nothing is toxic in the amounts that you are ingesting
it if you want.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
A great account to a follow. I love her. Her name
is that Eco Well and she just mythbusts all of
these things with science. It's not her opinion, it's the truth,
which is what that just was. Yeah, but exactly, and
it's like, yes, everything is the poison makes it. It's like,
my mum's quite unwell, as you know. And the number
one thing they've told her she can only have like
six hundred meals of water a day. If she drinks
too much water she will die. Whereas before I went
(17:48):
to the cardiologist with her, I was like, Mum, drink
my water, be healthy, and they said no, tea, soup, coffee, everything,
all her fluids. Honest, she can only have six hundred meals,
and so it's like, well there you go. Wow, you
know a lot. I mean, everything had to come from somewhere.
So even if it's natural, it can be bad for you.
And if it's a quote unquote chemical, it could be
great for you exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And that's the thing. A lot of natural essential oils
and potentially.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Formulating a pregnancy beauty brand. There's so many essential oils
you can't use on pregnant people.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And also if you just put it pure on someone's skin,
it would literally burn it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So yeah, cut the crap. Toxicity is in the dose.
You've got. Show and tell again, I've got wise words,
You've got Show and tell.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You bought a lunch box.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's my system, a lunch bag. We'll reminder of who
I used to be and I'm gonna be here again.
So when Alexander was a baby and I was on
Matt leave and then we're going to the beach because
he was a winter baby, so he was like six
months over Christmas and it was just like I'm out
and about. I always carried a cooler bag for our
sunscreens because your car gets incredibly hot and going to
the beach gets incredibly hot. Yes, and obviously I'd have
(18:52):
drinks and stuff, but I had a separate one just
for our beauty, I mean my beauty. He had something
that is.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
The most Lee Campbell thing in the entire word, that
you had a separate bag for your beauty products at
the beach.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, in my car, it lived there because we were going,
like to a park or to the beach every single day. Like,
you know how you've got the pram in the car. Yeah,
you Like I had like a little kit but it
had sunscreen in it and everything, and your car Like
this is a bit morbid, but you know what happens
if you leave a person in a car. You cannot
keep sunscreen in a car in a hot day, throw
(19:21):
it out all of you. Imagine if you just left
your makeup overnight, Oh, Kelly's like, I do that. I
mean I've done heaps of times. But anything not in
the middle of summer, no, I guess. More so your skincare,
like your actives. You cannot use the vitamin and see
that it's been in the sun in Themagine a perfume. Eh. Yes.
So the reason I thought of this, I was scrolling
the other day and I came across this assie brand.
It's called cool Kool and they have made Australia's first
(19:42):
insulated beauty back. So it's essentially something like this way
more chap. It looks heaps better, but it reminded me
I used to do this, and I keep it like
a little car get. I've got like a mist to
conceal blah blah blah blah. If you keep them in there,
you don't have to put an ice back in it.
Just shut it and it's insulated at the temperatures pretty much.
You like, shut it, shut it out, unless you know,
(20:02):
you leave your car in the desert sixty five years,
but you can sometime if you want to put a
little cooler thing in it, if you are going to
the beach or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You know those imagine then if you did put ice
in it and you had like.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
A misted you know those crunchy things you get at
the pharmacy that you turn on the heat and you
get the cooling ones too. Yeah, you just check on
those in there. So check out Headach's cool ko Elder
brand and they make much more stylish runs. But this
is my little kid that I've well it's probably a
bit big, but I end up taking so much stuff
into the cast, seven hundred litmums, and then I see
up there's all my eyebroferensil. So this just lives in
(20:35):
my car now. But what's that coming summer? Great great recommendation.
Really it's all floating around in my console. All right.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, on that note, we'll be back in your easin
eyes on Friday.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yes, if you want to ask us a question, you
can do that our email. Can I remember it after
seven a half years? Is you Beauty at mama mea
dot com dot Are you there? You go? Always want
to say you body podcast? Hit us up on Instagram
at You Beauty Podcast. Jump in the Facebook community, Give
Kelly a call and a mobile number which is ha
ha ha ha ha. I'd love that actually, Oh yes,
(21:11):
I can help season.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Mm hmmm mm hm
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Makeup is my therapy in love.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty of body. Hello,
and welcome to your beauty I'm Lee Campbell. I'm Kelly McCurry.
Before we get into the questions of the week, let's
catch up on what's happening in beauty land. Here are
the top beauty headlines.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything
you missed in the beauty world. I'm Cas Green, morning
editor at MoMA Maha and your biggest beauty nerd.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
And I'm Amy Clark, Mama MIA's lifestyle editor. And I
have a really big pimple on my chin this morning,
so I.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Love that for me.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Here's what's trending. Okay, So Taylor Swift showgull orange theme
is coming for your beauty routine. So, Amy, I need
to talk about my girl, Taylor Swift. She's been getting
engaged to her now fiance, Travis Kelsey. She's about to
release her twelfth studio album, The Life of a Show,
and she has a lot going on but what does
that have to do with beauty?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Actually, it has everything to do with beauty, because, as
we know, anything that Taylor Swift does seeps into the
cultural zeitgeist of trends, including the colors associated with her albums.
Case in point, Google searches and group chats immediately exploded
a few weeks back when Taylor appeared on Travis's New
Heights Sports podcast wearing a matt To orange lipstick. For
(01:35):
anyone wondering, there's a strong chance that it's the hard
to find Nars Morocco lipstick. However, I highly recommend the
Mac Powder Kiss Velvet Blur lipstick in All Star and
Ees if you're looking for an alternative available in Australia.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
So Amy, this tells us a lot about what we're
going to see across fashion, home and beauty, and the
answer is a whole lot of orange orange lipsticks, blushes,
eyeshadow looks, and maybe even manicures, which I'm excited for.
The specific bright orange shade associated with the life of
a show girl. I must admit it's not the easiest
shade to wear, but think of it more as a
color spectrum and inspiration. So we can go from warm
(02:10):
peach and punchy coral to deeper shades of burnt orange
and also caramel.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
My favorite way to wear color trends is to lean
all the way in with a tonal look. So pick
your shade of orange and wear it as a wash
of color over the eyes, the lips, and the cheeks.
Even an orange French tip or a feature nail is
another way that you could participate in the trend without
having to go full blown orange. Gen Z are just
(02:35):
discovering the pixie cut. So according to Pinterest's latest trend report,
gen z searches for chic pixie are up two thousand,
four hundred and thirty five percent, which is kind of wild.
And it's moving away from the long layers and the
curtain bangs and towards the ultra short styles made famous
by the likes of Audrey Hepburn, Michelle Williams, Emma Watson Cass.
(02:58):
Why do we think gen Z are getting the chop okay?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So, as a girl who once cut her hair and
majorly regretted it, I have some thoughts. Really, it's all
about no soldier for the nineties. A pixie cut has
that glos glamorous kind of editorial vibe. It shows off
your neckline and draws attention to the raw beauty of
your features.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Also, speaking as a millennial here, authenticity and embracing you
over what is deemed conventionally attractive does appear to be
what really speaks to gen Z when it comes to
their beauty esthetic. So, alongside other nineties trends like grunge,
ee makeup and deeper shades, it's kind of a rebellion
against the supermodel blowout or clean girl slick.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Why does everyone want to smell like vanilla and caramel
right now? If you feel like salted caramel and vanilla
scented body lotions, hammers and fragrances are popping up.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
All over your feed.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
That's because they are thanks to recent launchers from brands
like Fante Rare and the new to Mecca brand Flur
Smelling like a dessert is all over my TikTok feed.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
It kind of feels like we've gone back to the
early noughties and I'm spraying Britney Spears fantasy at my
locker at high school. But gormand fragrances that were traditionally
reserved for the home, like the infamous Glasshouse, Taha Candle
dominating new launchers in the bath, body care, and personal
fragrance categories. Even I've seen caramel scented skincare.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
So vanilla isn't just a vibe. There's actually a lot
of sales data that can back this up. Amy, So
within forty eight hours of launching Flour, sold out products
include the Vanilla skin DP and their heavy cream hair
and body mist. But these are not your mother's kind
of sickly sweet vanilla scents. We're seeing juxtaposition of rich
sweet notes with contrasting deeper sents like sandalwood, pink pepper,
(04:38):
and musk.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I think we're going to see even more of this
caramel and vanilla resurgence come holiday season because it's also
just a nice alternative to your standard Christmas sense and
fun fact, sugary, sweet gormand fragrance notes are known within
the beauty industry as catnip for men, So do with
that information what you will.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Now, let's get into all your beauty q and a's
with Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I couldn't help for wonder ask me anything. You ask
plenty questions.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So our first one is from Jessica Hilean Kelly loved
the podcast. Quick question, it's a spicy sunscreen question.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I don't only eat sunscreen, you don't want spice.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
No, can I layer a tinted mineral sunscreen on top
of a chemical sunscreen? I have a chemical sunscreen that
I absolutely adore, but I am looking at incorporating a
tinted SPF product for a more my skin, but better look.
I've read mixed opinions on layering the two types of sunscreens,
and I thought you may be able to provide clarification.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Thanks. We absolutely can, so just a caveat that, due
to the regulations in place by the Therapeutic Goods Administration,
we can't recommend specific products. The TDA does a lot
of good things, but please let us recommend specific sunscreen
because I've tried them all and women find it hard
to find a good one. Jessica, you absolutely can. This
is actually perfect. You can layer them in this order.
(05:59):
Let me explain so a quickerminder if you confused about
the different types of sunscreen. So mineral sunscreen is also
called a physical sunscreen or also called an inorganic sunscreen.
So if you see those terms all the same thing,
that essentially and I'm really like giving you top line here.
Sits on the surface of the skin, whereas a chemical
sunscreen another name for that is an organic sunscreen. They
(06:20):
contain like little organic molecules and chemical bonds and they
absorb energy from the UV radiation, so it feels a
bit more like skincare. So, yes, you've said you've got a.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Chemeneral sunscreens the ones that wall over the news last month,
they were because you know plot twist, they all actually
come from the same manufacturer.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And yet I mean generally speaking, they're harder to get
an elegant formula because they're creating a physical layer. They're
going to be thick and sticky, which is why when
you do find a good one, you're like, whoa, yeah,
yes you can layer, and that is the perfect way
to layer. So your chemical sunscreen first, So you put
your chemical sunscreen on that's absorbed into the skin to
be effective. So you just put it on your like
last step of your skin care. You know how they say,
(07:00):
wait twenty minutes, the jury's out on that, but they
get a little hand fan speed it up. Yeah, but
that's mostly for chemical sunscreens because they kind of go
in and sit down. They need to sit down, so
then you find their seats. Yeah, so you've and I
generally wait, anyway, do my skincare. Then I've done, let's say,
for example, my chemical sunscreen. Then you want to add
your tinted mineral wonderful. That is great. That is basically
(07:24):
like adding an added bonus. So that kind of sits
on the surface of the skin and reflects and deflects
the UV rays. It's like kneading iron.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So you eat a steak, but then have a supplement
just for funzies.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Sure, except for don't do that. Go to your doctor
and get tested for your iron first. Yeah, I mean,
I know, I know, I know. Yes, it's like packing
an overcoat when you've already got a jacket on. Oh,
a rain coach if you will. Yes, And so a
tinted version is really good because that generally will have
iron oxides in it, which is a form of sunscreen
like a SPF protection. So you're combining the two. So
(07:57):
if you let your chemical settle ideally ten to fifteen minutes,
do your hair, put your shoes on, I don't know,
and then you're topping up with your mineral. But you
can also layer two chemicals. I often do that. So
you can do chemical sunscreen and then another chemical sunscreen.
So I'll do like a chemical clear you know nothing,
and then I'll do a chemical tinted. Reason being is
you will never wear enough tinted sunscreen, whether it's chemical
(08:19):
or mineral, to get the full SBF protection. You just can't.
You would look like you've got sixteen layers a foundation on.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I have such good example of that, the cosmetics SBF fifty.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, it's so thick. Years ago, Hannah English did that
for Mama Mea. We'll link it in the show notes.
She used the half teaspoon, yes, and she it looked
like she was dripping in foundation. You can never do that,
but you can layer chemical and chemical. That's absolutely fine.
Just keep in mind, say you've got an SPF thirty
sunscreen and then you layer on an SBF twenty. The
(08:50):
numbers don't add up. It's not mass. So you've got
SPF thirty and sp fifty for example, that's not SPF eighty.
It doesn't work like that. Also, two chemicals might pill.
I know, one's the different ones that I can. You
know a chemical and a physical might pill. So just
learn what layers work together. Also, just if you want
more or you want to find the right infol on
that stuff, Doctor Michelle Wong had her on New Beauty
(09:10):
lad Muffins Science. She is phenomenal. She's got a whole
website and if you do want more information that is
factual and scientific and correct, head to doctor Michelle Mung's website.
So what I love firstly is she's a genius and
she missed us most like all skincare stuff at mostly sunscreen.
She also then does like a video version and a
written version, depending on how you like to consume your content.
(09:32):
Oh yes, But one thing that oftentimes when we're having
this chemical versus mineral debate is people think that chemical
sunscreens absorb the heat and will making malasma worse. And
that's really not true. She says. Chemical sunscreens do not
significantly cause malassama by heating the skin. Both chemical and
physical sunscreen work by absorbing UV and converting it to heat.
(09:52):
But the amount of heat generated is so small it's undetectable.
So just use what you like, Yeah, whatever you like,
and use enough of it, reapply frequently. Sunscreen is only
one form of sun protection. Hat sunglasses, up. If whatever close,
get out of the sun please.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I love that. Yeah, And you know what, the biggest
rule is your favorite son screen. We don't care what
it is as long as.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You're using it. Yeah. Like, for example, I did my
skincare this morning, I did my sun screen and then
I did I think I did my hair and everything.
I was like foundation while west today and I ended
up wearing an SBA fifty tinted sunscreen. But just because
I liked the finish as a foundation exactly. You'd already
actually put watching for something and I'm like, oh, I
like the way this sits on it. Yeah, all right.
Question two Becky asked, Hi, Kelly and Lee, O wef
(10:39):
listener OnlyFans? Do you think? She means?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Oh, g I first time Lee's actually got a secret
toe channel.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm like, you are on the wrong place. Come over
to my toe. Don't showed it up world. It was
a great idea. Oh my god, you could note. I
saw a girl the other day she partially chooses food
and puts it in a bag and posts it people.
She's making thousands of dollars. We're in the wrong job.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You could do something with your weird toes.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
To Becka says, I'm a fellow lazy girl and I
need your opinion. I have dark brown, wavy, fine hair
and not heap so it thanks to postpardon and I'm
a morning shower person. Firstly, I love this detail. This
helps us so as much detail.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Now. Sometimes we read a question, we're like, we need
to know this, this, this, Yeah, so thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You are a good girl, Becka. She says, I'm heading
back to full time work with two kids, and I
want to know should I invest in nanoplasty or hair
keratin or the wet to dry dice and straightener. I
usually just air dry or do a quick blow dry.
Thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks girls.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I would like you to look at my hair Lee
as a exhibit a of y.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Are you Becca but blonde?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No you're not. Your hair looks great today?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Nope, I look like a bin chicken. Look at the
fried flyaways. Which is why I'm like, I reckon the
treatments over just a blow dry, because a blow dry
your hair is still gonna look not right.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Every morning, even if it's you won't want to.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
If you've got the keratin or the nane o, whatever
it's called. I always think of like a nose Me too.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think nanoplasty like getting your nose done.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, but that's right PLASTI But anyway, I just think
that do that one because then it's just worth the
investment and then you literally can just let it air dry.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I agree, it saves you time. I could not agree more. Oh,
let me explain the difference between those two things. So
because you've tried both of them, right, I not. Well,
I get a version of it. So, I mean, it's
essentially all the same thing, but they like to market
each other off each other, to say ones where it's
like having gel or buyer, Like, it's just all shit
on your nails. It's gonna make some look good, but
it'll do some damage. So firstly, I would definitely get
(12:40):
the smoothing slash straightening treatment because every morning you wake
up you will love yourself sick. Yes, it's an outlayer
of around let's just say, roughly five hundred dollars, but
it will last as long as your hair grows. So
your hair will grow out from your head, that part
will be natural texture, but where they started at the
root that will continue to be the beautiful smooth texture. Yes,
(13:01):
so I probably get I mean I need it, minds
to you, but ideally every five months. And because your
hair grows fast though fast, and particularly where it's short,
I can't really do this back when it's gross because
I've always had really straight, quite nice hair, but postpart
in mine just went a totally different texture. Rude. I've
got lions main heads, not a nice postpartum. I have
less time and someone at my ankles, and you're giving
(13:22):
me worse hair. Yeah, rude, rude. So there's like, let's
just say keratin and nanoplasty just to give you the
two sort of categories. Keratin is aimed at straightening and
smoothing frizz. They use keratin. They used to use formaldehyde.
That's why nanoplasty loves saying keratin's bad. You can get
that really sort of smooth, glossy finish. It reduces frizz,
(13:44):
add shine and smoothness. Brands don't use for maldehyde anymore.
They've got a replacement chemical. If you wanted like dead
pins straight, like straight straight straight, you'd go for keratin.
And that would be for someone that maybe has like
raily curly or coily hair that wants straight.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
That also is quite frizzy, and then they want it
straight because if you had like our hair, it would
look awful.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, you can also do different levels once you've so
nanoplasty is more about treatment and nourishing your hair, while
alsot straightening it. So they use what's called nanotechnology he's
the word, and amino acids, so you'll get like a
naturally looking smoothness, but not ultra sleek. Do whatever you want.
I personally get karasilk, so it's keratin treatment from kerras silk.
(14:29):
Karasilk's name is because they used to this technology, used
to use real silk. Now they leave the little wormies
alone and they use a vegan version of silk. So
when I go and get mine done, they say, do
you want like there's names for it, let's say like
light or heavy, and I've had both. And it's so
that like you say, you've got wavy hair, a nice wave,
you probably just want no frize, but steal some texture
(14:49):
and body. Yeah. Gone are the days where it looks
like you've like helmeted. Yes, And for me they literally
just blow dry your hair, put the solution on, straighten
your hair, wash it out. I'm done in an hour.
Oh put my hair up. I don't have to wear
it home for three days. I need to try it.
Oh it's life changing, Kelly, I know life change. Need
to try it. So these are all similar versions. Just
(15:09):
research what your place does or what friends have done,
or jump in the ubidy Facebook group or your community
group on Facebook. You know, if you're in like your
Suburbs group. I love my Suburbs group, and say hey,
I'm thinking of this. Has anyone got one or has
anyone got to sell them? You will love yourself sick.
Then of course you can still heat stylle if you
want to, but I just then use an air dry barm.
Most days, like today, I did an air dry barm
and then because we're a bit later than normal, I
(15:31):
just did a few little tongs and it looks so pretty.
I mean I wouldn't have that wave without the tongue,
but I wouldn't have any So this is not air dried.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
This is dicendu and no I did it. It doesn't
I look like a bitten chicken.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's awful. I just think, you know, a couple hundred
bucks five hundred, six hundred dollars is a lot of money,
but the costper where the convenience and the time is money. Yep,
I would do it. And look if you don't love it,
or you think it was too expensive or whatever, you
don't have to have a do.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's so funny how people have different priorities when it
comes to their routines as well. It's like Kelly has
got six different shades of pink on her eyelids.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh my god, but her hair is. And also for me,
anything that gives me time back, I will pay anything
because time is life. Like, can't buy time? Well you
can if you get caroten like, do you know what
I mean? That's the only way to buy hacks hacks
hack City. What's your beauty bite?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well, last week I had my little wise words that
were simplifying how we do skincare. Today I have a
little bit of a reminder and it's also coming off
the back of our chat about sunscreen at the start
of the app, So little reminder. Toxicity is in the dose.
(16:44):
Water is toxic if you have too much of it.
So that's why apps like I see people using that
stupid Yuka app or you know, they'll put and they'll
say it's got this in it, So it's a red
because it's toxic.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, it is if you swum in it, like if
you ate enough apple seeds, you die, like the little
things that little seeds in apple core.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The process that companies have to go through to be
able to sell products on the shelves in Australia is
so stringent. And I promise you no one's trying to
kill you because then you can't spend your money.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yes, so true.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Nothing is toxic in the amounts that you are ingesting
it if you want.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
A great account to a follow. I love her. Her name
is that Eco Well and she just mythbusts all of
these things with science. It's not her opinion, it's the truth,
which is what that just was. Yeah, but exactly, and
it's like, yes, everything is the poison makes it. It's like,
my mum's quite unwell, as you know. And the number
one thing they've told her she can only have like
six hundred meals of water a day. If she drinks
too much water she will die. Whereas before I went
(17:48):
to the cardiologist with her, I was like, Mum, drink
my water, be healthy, and they said no, tea, soup, coffee, everything,
all her fluids. Honest, she can only have six hundred meals,
and so it's like, well there you go. Wow, you
know a lot. I mean, everything had to come from somewhere.
So even if it's natural, it can be bad for you.
And if it's a quote unquote chemical, it could be
great for you exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And that's the thing. A lot of natural essential oils
and potentially.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Formulating a pregnancy beauty brand. There's so many essential oils
you can't use on pregnant people.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And also if you just put it pure on someone's skin,
it would literally burn it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So yeah, cut the crap. Toxicity is in the dose.
You've got. Show and tell again, I've got wise words,
You've got Show and tell.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You bought a lunch box.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's my system, a lunch bag. We'll reminder of who
I used to be and I'm gonna be here again.
So when Alexander was a baby and I was on
Matt leave and then we're going to the beach because
he was a winter baby, so he was like six
months over Christmas and it was just like I'm out
and about. I always carried a cooler bag for our
sunscreens because your car gets incredibly hot and going to
the beach gets incredibly hot. Yes, and obviously I'd have
(18:52):
drinks and stuff, but I had a separate one just
for our beauty, I mean my beauty. He had something
that is.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
The most Lee Campbell thing in the entire word, that
you had a separate bag for your beauty products at
the beach.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, in my car, it lived there because we were going,
like to a park or to the beach every single day. Like,
you know how you've got the pram in the car. Yeah,
you Like I had like a little kit but it
had sunscreen in it and everything, and your car Like
this is a bit morbid, but you know what happens
if you leave a person in a car. You cannot
keep sunscreen in a car in a hot day, throw
(19:21):
it out all of you. Imagine if you just left
your makeup overnight, Oh, Kelly's like, I do that. I
mean I've done heaps of times. But anything not in
the middle of summer, no, I guess. More so your skincare,
like your actives. You cannot use the vitamin and see
that it's been in the sun in Themagine a perfume. Eh. Yes.
So the reason I thought of this, I was scrolling
the other day and I came across this assie brand.
It's called cool Kool and they have made Australia's first
(19:42):
insulated beauty back. So it's essentially something like this way
more chap. It looks heaps better, but it reminded me
I used to do this, and I keep it like
a little car get. I've got like a mist to
conceal blah blah blah blah. If you keep them in there,
you don't have to put an ice back in it.
Just shut it and it's insulated at the temperatures pretty much.
You like, shut it, shut it out, unless you know,
(20:02):
you leave your car in the desert sixty five years,
but you can sometime if you want to put a
little cooler thing in it, if you are going to
the beach or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You know those imagine then if you did put ice
in it and you had like.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
A misted you know those crunchy things you get at
the pharmacy that you turn on the heat and you
get the cooling ones too. Yeah, you just check on
those in there. So check out Headach's cool ko Elder
brand and they make much more stylish runs. But this
is my little kid that I've well it's probably a
bit big, but I end up taking so much stuff
into the cast, seven hundred litmums, and then I see
up there's all my eyebroferensil. So this just lives in
(20:35):
my car now. But what's that coming summer? Great great recommendation.
Really it's all floating around in my console. All right.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, on that note, we'll be back in your easin
eyes on Friday.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yes, if you want to ask us a question, you
can do that our email. Can I remember it after
seven a half years? Is you Beauty at mama mea
dot com dot Are you there? You go? Always want
to say you body podcast? Hit us up on Instagram
at You Beauty Podcast. Jump in the Facebook community, Give
Kelly a call and a mobile number which is ha
ha ha ha ha. I'd love that actually, Oh yes,
(21:11):
I can help season.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Mm hmmm mm hm
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