November 26, 2025 • 29 mins
Ever wondered who is behind the iconic "Fashion Critical" account? This week, Leigh's managed to sneak in Australia’s most mysterious fashion commentator to the Mamamia offices (in disguise... obviously) to spill all her red carpet secrets. They're the anonymous voice we all turn to for the real commentary on everything from the Brownlow to the Met Gala, and they're not holding back.
They're breaking down the biggest fashion crimes they see time and time again, from the dreaded "naked dress" to the accessories they'd ban forever. They're revealing how it all started, how their commentary has changed from "savage" to "satirical,". We’re getting the official glossary for all their iconic terms, from what "crotch whiskers" actually are, to why "should have caught the bus" is the ultimate insult. Plus, they spill on the celebrity DMs they've received—including the ones who weren't happy—and why the Oscars red carpet is actually the most boring one of the year.
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Fashion Critcal's Boujie: Rebecca Vallance Emma Mini Dress $699
Leigh's Budget: Chancery Lotus Maxi Dress $220
Fashion Critical's Budget: Pilgrim Nat Off Shoulder Mini Dress $169.95
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to I'm Mom with mea podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hello you bies, it's Lee here, and I wanted to
drop this special episode of Nothing to Wear into the
U Bidy feed because if you like makeup and skincare,
you might like fashion as well. And when I say fashion,
I don't mean blindly following trends or spending a fortune.
It's just some really great style advice. And I reckon
you're gonna like this one.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturved
laols for spraying groundbreaking, Oh my god, you have to
do it. You live for fashion.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hello, and welcome for Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee
Campbell and I have a gift for you today. Someone
came into the office incognito. I snuck them in before
anyone could pick up who it was. It's fashion and critical.
If you don't know who I'm talking about, well no
one really does, because they are a non They're an enigma.
(01:08):
They have three hundred and fifty thousand people in their
community on Facebook and about one hundred and twenty thousand
on Instagram, and they're basically Australia's fashion gossip girl Anonymous.
They commentate any red carpet from the logis Here in
Australia right through to the Oscars and recently Fashion Critical
also wrote a book about just that. And they're joining
(01:29):
me today incognito in disguise to talk all things fashion
and red carpet, the things that go on behind the scenes,
and the celebrities that get very cranky when she comments
on their outfits. Fashion Critical Welcome to Nothing to Wear.
I couldn't tell anyone in the office that you were
coming because you would have been attacked and that thing
would have been taken off your head and your true
(01:50):
identity revealed.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But it is so exciting to have you here. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Before we get into the topic, which is basically you,
I ask new guests the same few questions. Describe your
style Fashion Critical in three words.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Eclectic, unpredictable and unhinged. Yes at times, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I love it. I was going to say extravagant.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I'm not extravagant visually but not financially.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes. No, but like the lot, it can be a lot,
it can be a lot. I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, this is going to be interesting to hear, how
you answer this. Most people have a wardrobe, but they
wear ten percent of that wardrobe ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
The rest they love but don't really reach for.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
There's a core amount of items that they wear over
and over again.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Fashion critical. What do you wear over and over again?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I don't know if I should admit to this active
where lies not joking. I don't know if I should
say that. If I'm not seeing anyone, I'm all about
being comfy. But I would say in summer, it's very
much like little summer addresses. I love just having like
putting on one thing, not having to put bottom and top,
just the one thing, and it's all like loose and
(03:03):
floating and nice.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And so you've got your little floaty sum address on
what if you got covering faith, Well.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You'd be surprised to know that I am able to
walk around freely in public without my head covering because
nobody knows who I am.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Oh, yeah, you're like sea. It was it cea yes,
you're grug yes?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Or like blanket.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
When Michael Jackson used to put the blanket over his
face and then he could.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Go to pre school, it's called blanket.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
He was called blanket that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
He's your name.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
No, his name's Prince Michael.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh okay, yeah, fashion critical. Let's start with your backstory.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You started out as a street sweeper in Gunda, guys,
so tell me about that. Is the family business? How
did you get into street sweeping?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Look, I try not to talk too much about my
personal life because I don't want people, you know, turning
up when I'm on a council shift.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So I'm not going to divulge that.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
But that is my day job when I'm not, you know,
critiquing the fashions of the rich and fayment still street
see indeed?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes, yes, okay, So street sweeping is a far cry
from red carpets in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
You know, they're quite different. Well, I don't know, I've
never sweep.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Have you always loved fashion and how did your commentary
of celebrity outfits begin?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Firstly, I would say yes, I've loved fashion in a
way that is fun and not based in any particular knowledge.
So probably wasn't someone that would read Vogue magazine or
no which designer was witch, But really have always loved
clothes and the joy of picking outfits and being able
to have a different.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Look every day.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Y you just sometimes have a vergue on your coffee
tape so you look fancy correct.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yes, and they're like the big Vogue books. Oh on
my eyes. Yeah, it never opened it.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And how it started was really not a very exciting story.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I think.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I you know, when we were all on Facebook a
lot back in the day, those were the days they were,
they were heady days. I made an album I think
of the oscars and I just wrot this.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I keep saying twenty eleven because I think that's about right.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That feels about ran.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, something like that, and that would have been Facebook
prime time. Oh when you used to say you know
what you ate for?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Line? Yeah, God's humiliating. And anyway, so I made this album.
I really don't know why.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I was procrastinating, probably and it was kind of funny
and people laughed and commented, and then maybe I did
one more and then.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I had you started an account as fashion Crew.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Not at this point it was just on my personal.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Page and then gunder correct and then I thought, oh,
I'll make a page, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That was also like very exit to have a page.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
So I made a page and I called it fashion creticon.
Zero thought was put into the name of that, and
then I started putting them on the page because I thought,
I don't really want it to impact on me professionally
in my street sweeping career.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yees.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So I made a page and it got to the
point where I thought, I think I'm onto something here
because I had two hundred followers, and I promise you,
I thought this is really something like, I've got something here.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I just kept doing it, and you know, it was
a very slow burn when you consider that it's fourteen
years later.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Wow, and you're still on Facebook. You've got like three
hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Peace something like that. I think it's three hundred and
twenty five or something.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Sorry, at about one hundred and twenty on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
One hundred and thirty.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Oh actually a dare ye your book launch? We'll get there,
yeah wow. And so it just took off from there.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well yeah, I guess it just kind of grew every
time I'd post an album and people are very funny
in their comments as well.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
And I've never promoted it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It's always been something that you know, maybe someone would
tag a friend or I think what I wanted to
make sure is that anybody who was on there kind
of was there because they got the humor and they
found it funny.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I never did any of that. You know, Tiger Friend
or you know us A competition.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Wasn't really a thing back then.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
It became a thing. It did become a thing. And yeah,
and what.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's now, twenty twenty five, I think that interestingly, in
a world where we actually need a bit more lighthearted humor,
you can really cop it for using Jess, have you
found the tide has changed it all? With your Commentary's
always been very witty, I think, very innocent, really fun.
But have people changed from then to now that like
you can't say that?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I think actually I get less criticism now because I
think I'm better at being funny and satirical without being
super savage.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
In the beginning, it.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Was just savage out of my favorite day.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah it could be savage because like most of the
people on there are new and it was just like
kind of like the group chat with your best ears where.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You didn't really forward things on then and yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah so but at a time, but it was a
different time.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
One hundred percent the things that you could get away
with and I think the landscape of what's acceptable and
what's not has changed quite rapidly over time. Kerry Anne Kenney,
the Icon, attended my book launch in Sydney last week
and she got me to sign her book, and I wanted.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And she brought her book for you to say.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
She bought one on the night and she asked me
to sign it.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And I'm sorry your book. I thought she brought her
own book, like I wrote this book.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Now, actually I have written a book. So she she
got me to.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Sign my book and I wanted very much for her
to sign my boobs, but I chickened out.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
But she said to me, you.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Know, don't go too soft. You know, you've got to
be like Joan Rivers. You've got to very Jones. Well
she's away ever going to be Joone Rivers anyway. Oh yeah,
it has changed and I have changed with it. And
I think that's your responsibility as someone I don't think
of it myself as someone who's necessarily an expert on fashion.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I really median.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I like to make people laugh.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You're a chameleon, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
So I think that you have to be able to
be fluid with the times.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, I was incredibly disappointed that I had to message
you the morning of the book launch and I couldn't
come because I had been to Spotlight. I didn't use
m chnomi, but I'd bought four meters of red velvet
and I was going to put it over myself and
God as there.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
How are you going to do that?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I hasn't been worked out yet.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I was just gonna cut to the lialse literally.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Like a ghost.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I would have collapsed with joy and happiness. Maybe next time,
maybe that to be your Halloween costume.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Oh, it's a great idea. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So you use some colorful terms to illustrate your thoughts
and feelings, and I feel like most of your audience
no now what they are and what they mean and
how they started. But there's some people that might not
be across your fantastic colorful language. So I'm going to
name a few of them, and then you're gonna tell
me what they mean.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, should have caught the bus, So should.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Have caught the bus means you've got creasing on your garment,
usually in the sitting area, which is another term which I.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Photo was crotch whiskers.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, that was on the list.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, so these two are inextricably linked.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So if you have crotch whiskers, it is typically because
you arrived at the event sitting down in a cab
or a car or a limo or whatever, which is
typically how people would arrive at red carpets. And once
upon a time, I think it was twenty ten, Cape
Blanchette caught a public bus to the Actor Awards here
in Sydney because she was wearing a silk gown. Some
(09:52):
fabrics don't crease a lot, and some creased terribly. So
she was wearing a silk or a satin sort of
type gown and she just took a photo on her
Instagram of her literally standing up holding onto a pole
on a.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Sydney Metro bus.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
A boss, so boss.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Ever since then, I was like, if I saw someone
with the creased out that, I'd say it should have
caught the bus, you know, that would have solved that problem.
And now they do catch the bus. They go in
big tall van.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yes, like Kim Kardashian when she had that course that
she had to go in a standing van because they.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
All do it now, they all do it. They stand
up and they hold onto the pole. It's not very
safe because there's no seat belts on.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's America.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
They don't care, or they lie stitchers aboard on the
back seat.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I like to think I could get fashion critical vans.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
That I could make my next career, yes, my third career.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yes, yes, forget street sweeping, street moving people in dresses.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I could do both. The van could have street sweepers
on the bottom.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
This is genius. So crotch whiskers.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That explains when I first saw that, I thought it
mean like I remember those jeans we used to buy
that just had the fake wrinkles that it.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Was just like the mate they're coming back, have you seen?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yes, but we're not worry But you know Keith Urban,
I feel like he wears crotch whisker jeans.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That checks Okay, it checks out. Toes toes toes.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
By the way, there is a glossary of terms at
the front.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Of my book, So I'm about to get to your book.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You will not be lost and confused. So toes.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Everybody has them. I'm not here to toe shame anyone.
You know, you can't help it that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You've got ten little piggly wigglies down there.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But what I am looking for is if I am
noticing your toes, this is not good.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Them to be detracting attention from the overall look. So
there's a couple of ways that they will do this,
and sometimes despite your best efforts, it will happen. So
if you're wearing a very high heel and it's not
a really great fit, like it's a little bit big,
your toes are going to splay out the front like
it's not narrow enough.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Or hang over the edge.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, they can actually make contact with the carpet, which
we don't want that, or your shoes too small, and
then you see them all like folded up.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Can I ask what about genetically if someone doesn't have
big toe to little toe, what if they're just born
with like a long middle toe.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well that's something you have to reckon with as a person,
so correct you can just wear a closed toe shoe.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
So there's nothing wrong with toes, you know, I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Know if you've ever broken a toe, if you've ever
broken a pinky til you literally can't walk, you need
all ten of them. So I'm not here to shame toes.
But if you are an A list celebrity on the
red carpet. I don't want to be really noticing your toes,
So a closed toe shoe or just a shoe that
fits and paint your toeels.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Bob's youre, I am so glad I changed into these
shoes right before you got here, bog.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Best on ground Best on ground.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Now, that's a very Victorian term that they use in
the AFL, which I think every game somebody is awarded
best on ground, which I guess means the best player
of the match. Yeah, we don't care about fair, We
just care about who looks good. So best on ground
will be whoever I dm at that event to be
the best dressed person. And there's a few things that
will influence that. It's not the same criteria for every
(13:01):
red carpet. So what someone is wearing at the Grammys
or the VMA Awards obviously has a separate set of
criteria to someone It can't.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So the met Gala, like if they just go in
a boring dress, they haven't played correct.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
And on that note, you know, people get very very
excited about the Oscars red carpet and they say it's
it's fashion critical Christmas, it's actually very dull because people
are so perfectly put together and nobody takes risks at
the Oscars. It's very very formal, so you have a
lot more fun at the you know, it's something like
the Golden Globe.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yes, Grammys are good.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Grammy's are epic. Yeah, you know, anything goes, anything goes.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
What about Australia here with our football awards, That's all
I can think that we do.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, the brown Low, We've got the Logis. Of course.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Now, back in the day, fashion critical would have a
marvelous time at the Logis because people would wear all
kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And now everyone looks pretty good. So it is.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I did the Logans red carpet once when I was
at cost one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'm so glad you weren't there then.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was a zimmm and dress off a friend.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
But that's what people did, like.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
They did not have stylists, they didn't have whole style teams.
You see Australian celebrities or the wags and you know
the amount of people that they thank in their Instagram posts.
There's a lot of people working to put that look
together and.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So Tuesday night. Let alone. The logi is there.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, and so the stylists might have been, you know,
putting that output together for a couple of weeks or
even longer. So they actually scrub up really well and
everyone looks good, good, but boring.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It is sad.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yes, it's limiting for me and my humorous whips.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You manage it, Okay, a few more do your hair?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Do your hair.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You'll be surprised to learn that that just means what
it says. It just looks like the person hasn't done their.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Hair, but because they're wearing such a fancy dress and
they just want that editorial bend.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, but that's fine, that's done. I'm talking about you'll
see in my book. You'll see what classifies as do
your hair.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's in there.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
There's section on hair and nails and accessories and all
the little extra touches.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So I'm talking about the wet look. It's not for me.
It's not for me. The wet look hair where you
look like you've just stepped out of the shower or
it's just like a hot mess.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Ever, what a wet looks slipped back high pony, Oh,
that's stunning.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Okay, but it we look out look like you did
your hair.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Okay, I like it.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Fraggle okay, so you know all the like, I guess
it's ostrich feathers that you see on dresses is very
very common on.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
The Red Carpet.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Correct, they look like deceased fraggles and so bad.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
People that are younger than us might not know what
fraggles are.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
They're like muppet cousins.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yes, and they're very fluffy, weird, fluffy little fellows. And
so when I see people wearing those feathers, I will
always call them out for fragle abuse or fraggle carnage.
Fraggles are ubiquitous with the Red Carpet, sadly so.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
That they are in peril. Their numbers are way down.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh, they're probably in dangered. Last one here, accessori has
gone wild. I'm assuming that's human accessories.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
How you style your outfit And for those playing at home,
probably people that listen to this podcast know things about fashion,
but the styling refers to how you put together. So
you've got a dress, and then how do you make
that whole? You know, how do you make the whole look?
So you know, your choice of accessories is definitely part
of that. And so, for example, at my book launch
(16:05):
last week, I wore a magnificent dress and I had
quite an elaborate piece of like millinery that was made
for me by an amazing millinaire who has a millinery
company called Somewhere Millinery.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
They make head pieces, make head pieces, and.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
There was a lot going on. I didn't wear a
single piece of jaw. So that was a choice I
made where I like, I tried it on earrings. I
tried on rings, and I tried a necklace, and then
I was like, I actually think it's beautiful just as
it is. But then there's other cases where you might
be wearing like quite a simple black dress and then
you can put a lot with it and it looks
really really cool.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And sometimes they haven't really thought about it all in
one or they're getting paid a million dollars by a
fancy so and so to be dropping in something correct.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
And if you want to pay me to wear a
thousand accessories, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Levisa, come out it all right. Have you ever had
a reply or any discourse from a celebrity or person
that you've commented on.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yes, so you know if it's positive, they'll often share it.
They'll often say thank you so much. Oh, I was
so nervous about what you would say. And I find that, Hilaire,
because literally, who am I but a lowly street sweeper.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
So if it's positive, they're very positive. And then I
have had people like David Kosh.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Who you know, is the finance guy I've often made
who used to be on TV. I will often make
a joke if someone looks very kind of business like
that you know that he was styled by David Kosh,
and I'll tag him and he loves it. He's got
such a good at sense in him. He'll always reshare it.
I invited him to my launch.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
He couldn't come.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
He said it was devastating, like he's such a good sport,
you know. So there's definitely people who get it. There's
people who've reached out to me and said, do your
worst with me. Here's me at the logos, here's me
at the aris, like you know, usually usually people who
are finding themselves, like Joel Creasy or m Russiano or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So that's good fun. Yes, So this is a fun story.
It was quite recent.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I think I did a little red carpet for a
play that I was invited to, and Todd McKinney was there.
We haven't seen him yea quite a while, and he
was just in a plain blue seat. And I said
that he had been styled by the David Kosh School
of Finance, and once again, David Kosh thought that was
funny and shared it. And Todd mc kenny DMed me
(18:17):
and he said, I had to go to a restaurant
and there was you know, requirement for a jacket and tie.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And I came straight from the restaurant and I.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Said, cool, Brah, it's all in good fun, like we're
all having a laugh. Anyway, I didn't hear back. You know,
if you've not seen it before, it does sound you know.
I think when you followed the page you get that
it's kind of funny and it's done in an affectionate way.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But he didn't care for it.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And as I have said before, if you were styled
by the David Kosh School of Finance, you're probably wearing
a really expensive suit.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's not a terrible thing. It's safe.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Boring.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It sounds like yeah, Graham from accounts, but it's not terrible.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It probably costs a lot of money, so.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It might be tailored to own that.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
What's the best red carpet event overall in terms of
attendees getting it right? I guess it's hard to answer
because you just said sometimes getting it right it's boring.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, Look, any of the major events I think are
always amazing. So the Emmys, the Golden Globes, the Oscars,
they're always which.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Is good but bad because it's not so much fun, right,
rageous and great to commentate, And there's a lot of
good and bad.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Well, I think if you go to a music awards,
as we talked about the Grammys the American Music Awards,
you get some people who have gone quite formal and
quite elegant, and then you get you know, artists who've
gone and won something absolutely bananas.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know, something.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Absolutely maybe bananas like actually.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Correct, So that is always super fun. Whereas if you
look at something like the MTV vs. Everybody kind of
looks a little bit wacky, but the Grammys you'll get
a mix. And then obviously something like the MAT Gala
is always just exceptional. And when we talk about the
criteria of what we're looking at, the met gala. There's
a theme, so it's very much about how have you
(19:57):
dressed for the theme? Interpret and I don't want to
see understated that the met gala.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I want you dressed as a.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Cat like Jared Alito did, or like carrying your you know,
he also came wearing his head in his hands.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And we need to get you to the met Gala.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I need somebody out there.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'll make it happen. So you wrote a book.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's pretty impressive considering the streets need sweeping and clothes
need talking about. Tell us about the book and if
anyone hasn't got it yet, already yet.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I mean it's a bit back to the Vogue thing.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Even if you don't read it, it's it's really chic,
read like you just want it to look fancy.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, but how did you write it? And what's in it?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
So I was contacted by the nice people at Murder Books.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Did you actually write it?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Of course, I mean my followers would know immediately they
I think they said to me, if you want to
work with someone, and I said, I don't think so,
no one could replicate this wit.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So they said, we think you could write a book
and actually I had been.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Approached by it to publishers previously at other times, and
I just I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I just it's a big thing to do.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Well that that's it.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's a lot of work, and I think I fashion
critical for me has always been such fun and something
that I do genuinely for my own entertainment that I
didn't like the idea of being like then it being
a job.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah. It also feels very permanent in a book, where
it's like just waking up a photo and saying it's sentence.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, although you know, the internet is forever these days.
So anyway, they said, we think you could write a book,
and then I had to think about what the book
would be. So it is pretty much an overview of
red carpet celebrity fashion going back predominantly, I'd say ten
to fifteen years. You can't go too much further than
that because the pictures are not good and it's just
there's just too much content. So it's looking at everything,
(21:38):
you know, we go through the major events, we go through,
what are some of the red carpet trends. I distribute
my own awards. I've got my own awards that I've
given out to certain people. I look at some of
the behind the scenes things that we talked about. I
interviewed Alex Perry, who's followed a fashion critical for a
long time and was so generous to let me interview him,
to actually say, what's actually going on back there?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
How does it work?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
You know, if you're a designer, how do your dresses
end up on these people? Do you know that they're
going to appear or does it just suddenly.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Have a buy it? Do you pay them?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, so I got to got to ask all of
those questions that she was really cool, and then it
finishes with you know my favorite looks of all time,
the people that I think are the best dressed. And
it is lots of pictures, so if you don't want
to read too many words, you'd be very pleased. And
it kind of harks back to the glory days of magazines,
Like the design and layout of it is beautiful and yeah,
(22:28):
it's got a beautiful kind of faux red leather with
gold foil. So you can also just leave it sitting
on your coffee table. If you liked great Christmas.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Gift, great christmabulous, if you could dress one famous person
for the Red Carpet?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Who would it be?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Oh, that's a question I should have read beforehand. I'm
gonna come back to it. Yeah, hang on, hang on,
give me a minute, gimme a minute. Who would it be?
Who would it be? I think I'd like to dress Heidi.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Klum Oh, and why.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Because she is so beautiful but her she wins the
Box of Chocolates award in my book because you just
never know what you're going to get, and so I
think that's super fun with her, And I think she'd
kind of be what would you put her in? Well,
that's the thing. I think she'd be out for anything.
Like I think she's sometimes she wears really beautiful formal
things and sometimes she was really crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
So I think she'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So true, Who is your all time best on ground over?
How long you ever been doing this?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Male?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Female?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Like the person not look the person that just genuinely
almost always gets it right?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
There's well, I think there's a series of those MVPs
in the book and I don't have it in front
of me.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
But who first came to mind when I said that, Oh.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Kate Blinchette, you know, like, can you think of a
time where she didn't.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Look No, she always looks great. Her skin's beautiful, perfect.
I'm not bored.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I know, right, you're right, but I know, you know
Kate blind Sheet, Nicole Kidman. Yeah, there's you know, a
Mile Clooney, Oh never puts a foot wrong. Ever, there's
quite a few, actually, and then there's people who are
a little bit more edgy.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
What did you say, fair Man?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
But there are definitely some MVPs who for years and
years and years and years just keep churning out the
great looks. And they probably because they've got very very
good stylists, and I assume also they've just got really
excellent taste themselves and.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Lots of money. Yeah that helps. If you are invited
to the Oscars, what are you wearing?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Lord?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Look?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I would wear something very timeless. I think when you're
looking at the Oscars, you don't want anything trendy, you know.
I think anything that's kind of old Hollywood, you know,
the old Hollywood wave. I'm a big fan of yellow dresses.
I don't know if i'd go yellow at the Oscars,
but something a little bit of vintage, I think is
(24:44):
where I would go.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Before we get into bootie budget, I'm gonna ask you
some quick, rapid fire questions.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Who's your red carpet spirit animal?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Coleman Domingo.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
He's a man's but he's he's not a flamingo, but
he is the best dressed man on the red carpet
at the moment, and he's I'm obsessed, obsessed.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
If fashion had a smell, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Bubblegum?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
What's the one outfit you'd send straight to fashion.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Jail hosary with open toad sandals?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Three words to describe a true best on ground bog.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Look, timeless, flattering and perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
What's the biggest fashion crime of the decade.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I'm going to say the naked dress. Yeah, it's just
it's too much.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
We're getting more and more naked.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I want to see clothes. I don't want to see nudity.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Kanye West partner is actually naked naked. Yeah, okay. Last one.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
If you could ban one accessory forever, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
The choker? Easy? I don't care for it.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's very expensive. How m bougie and budget? So obviously
your fashion critical.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So we're kind of going red carpet inspired I mean,
you've been doing your own red carpet latly. I haven't
so minor make believe that I would wear. But let's
start with your bougie.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Well, I recently bought a Rebecca Valance cutie Patuti mini dress.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Is that what it's called?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It is absolutely not called that. Please don't google that.
You will not find it. People might be surprised to learn.
I don't spend a lot on myself. I'd rather buy
lots of things than expensive things.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So, but I you know, new.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Her dresses like are they're about like eight or nine
for that.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
This one was maybe seven hundred because it wasn't a gown.
It was a mini kind of day dress. But that
was a big spend for me.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
And I what colors.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It's black and white and it looks a little eighties,
almost like a little bit working women eighties, and it's glorious,
and I thought, I deserve this.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I've purchased it on the internet.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You have lots of things to do. She makes beautiful dresses. Well,
mine is absolutely in my dream. So I'm going somewhere phenomenal.
You can tell me where I'm going to wear this. Actually,
so I am buying and wearing. Actually no, they're going
to give it to me, that Albina Dialer embroidered corset dress.
It is two thousand, two hundred and sixty eight dollars
and ninety five cents. Because I'm a celebrity. So oh,
(27:26):
I mean it's half naked, but.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
That's not naked. Yeah, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Look at the waist, look at the boob. Obviously there'll
be a link in the show notes. Look, of course
it is how long dress beat it? Oh my gosh,
I mean I want to go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, that's stunning.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I approve, approve, approved, all right, what's your budget?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
It is a Pilgrim dress that I got on the
Iconic on sale and it was sixty nine dollars and
it looks vintage, beautiful perfection. And I wore it in
a photo shoot for a newspaper the other day. Color black,
black sequin, kind of off the shoulders.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It looks like Princess Diana's Revenge dress.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
A little bit sixty nine dollars, velvet, no no sequence,
black sequin and like little bit of rooshy thing here.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
When I was picking my budget, I could not pick
between Pilgrim and that Chancery is any say that brand? Yes, okay,
I think so, and I picked a Chancery dress. But Pilgrim,
you haven't looked at for years.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Obviously don't do many reot carpets or fancy things. But
when I was looking at Pilgrim on the Iconic, I
was like, wow, Wi, Yeah, we need to go to places.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, they've got They've got really beautiful dresses. And I've
never bought anything from them before.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I feel like fifteen years ago, it was not my vibe.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I mean I don't. Again, I'm not overly. I don't
really follow particular labels in great way. But I saw
it online and you know, when you order online you
kind of hidd and miss.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
You don't know how it's going to fit. Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, my budget for my imaginary red carpet that I'm
going on is from the Iconic as well. Chancery is
a brand. It's called the Lotus Maxi dress. It's two
hundred and twenty dollars because it's new.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Oh, pink and red. Chink and red is a favorite
colour cumbo of mine.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I'm blessed kind of that's leading, I know, and look
you like black and mite, it comes in black and white.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
That's late. That looks a lot like something I wanted.
The logo is actually, did you go to the logies?
I got in on the SLY. I was not invited.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
So the black and white's down to one hundred and
thirty two dollars at the time of recording.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It need both of them.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Anyone has got.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Red carpet events or weddings or whatever chancery choice.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
What was your brand again?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It was Pilgrim.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Pilgrim on the Iconic.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, affordable, fabulous, love it fashion Critical. I know you
have streets to sweep and I don't know what else
you got.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
To places to be influence, probably.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Some air to get around and I would like that
very much. Thank you for joining me on it.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Thank you for having me. It was really fun, so fun.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Thank you so much for listening to Nothing to Air,
and don't forget you should head over to YouTube to
watch us to particularly this episode because you'll get to
see Fashion Critical in a very fancy outfit and disguise.
We also have a Nothing to Wear newsletter, there's a
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You're listening to I'm Mom with mea podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hello you bies, it's Lee here, and I wanted to
drop this special episode of Nothing to Wear into the
U Bidy feed because if you like makeup and skincare,
you might like fashion as well. And when I say fashion,
I don't mean blindly following trends or spending a fortune.
It's just some really great style advice. And I reckon
you're gonna like this one.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturved
laols for spraying groundbreaking, Oh my god, you have to
do it. You live for fashion.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hello, and welcome for Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee
Campbell and I have a gift for you today. Someone
came into the office incognito. I snuck them in before
anyone could pick up who it was. It's fashion and critical.
If you don't know who I'm talking about, well no
one really does, because they are a non They're an enigma.
(01:08):
They have three hundred and fifty thousand people in their
community on Facebook and about one hundred and twenty thousand
on Instagram, and they're basically Australia's fashion gossip girl Anonymous.
They commentate any red carpet from the logis Here in
Australia right through to the Oscars and recently Fashion Critical
also wrote a book about just that. And they're joining
(01:29):
me today incognito in disguise to talk all things fashion
and red carpet, the things that go on behind the scenes,
and the celebrities that get very cranky when she comments
on their outfits. Fashion Critical Welcome to Nothing to Wear.
I couldn't tell anyone in the office that you were
coming because you would have been attacked and that thing
would have been taken off your head and your true
(01:50):
identity revealed.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But it is so exciting to have you here. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Before we get into the topic, which is basically you,
I ask new guests the same few questions. Describe your
style Fashion Critical in three words.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Eclectic, unpredictable and unhinged. Yes at times, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I love it. I was going to say extravagant.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I'm not extravagant visually but not financially.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yes. No, but like the lot, it can be a lot,
it can be a lot. I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, this is going to be interesting to hear, how
you answer this. Most people have a wardrobe, but they
wear ten percent of that wardrobe ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
The rest they love but don't really reach for.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
There's a core amount of items that they wear over
and over again.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Fashion critical. What do you wear over and over again?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I don't know if I should admit to this active
where lies not joking. I don't know if I should
say that. If I'm not seeing anyone, I'm all about
being comfy. But I would say in summer, it's very
much like little summer addresses. I love just having like
putting on one thing, not having to put bottom and top,
just the one thing, and it's all like loose and
(03:03):
floating and nice.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And so you've got your little floaty sum address on
what if you got covering faith, Well.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You'd be surprised to know that I am able to
walk around freely in public without my head covering because
nobody knows who I am.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Oh, yeah, you're like sea. It was it cea yes,
you're grug yes?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Or like blanket.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
When Michael Jackson used to put the blanket over his
face and then he could.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Go to pre school, it's called blanket.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
He was called blanket that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
He's your name.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
No, his name's Prince Michael.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh okay, yeah, fashion critical. Let's start with your backstory.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You started out as a street sweeper in Gunda, guys,
so tell me about that. Is the family business? How
did you get into street sweeping?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Look, I try not to talk too much about my
personal life because I don't want people, you know, turning
up when I'm on a council shift.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So I'm not going to divulge that.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
But that is my day job when I'm not, you know,
critiquing the fashions of the rich and fayment still street
see indeed?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes, yes, okay, So street sweeping is a far cry
from red carpets in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
You know, they're quite different. Well, I don't know, I've
never sweep.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Have you always loved fashion and how did your commentary
of celebrity outfits begin?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Firstly, I would say yes, I've loved fashion in a
way that is fun and not based in any particular knowledge.
So probably wasn't someone that would read Vogue magazine or
no which designer was witch, But really have always loved
clothes and the joy of picking outfits and being able
to have a different.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Look every day.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Y you just sometimes have a vergue on your coffee
tape so you look fancy correct.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yes, and they're like the big Vogue books. Oh on
my eyes. Yeah, it never opened it.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And how it started was really not a very exciting story.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I think.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I you know, when we were all on Facebook a
lot back in the day, those were the days they were,
they were heady days. I made an album I think
of the oscars and I just wrot this.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I keep saying twenty eleven because I think that's about right.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That feels about ran.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, something like that, and that would have been Facebook
prime time. Oh when you used to say you know
what you ate for?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Line? Yeah, God's humiliating. And anyway, so I made this album.
I really don't know why.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I was procrastinating, probably and it was kind of funny
and people laughed and commented, and then maybe I did
one more and then.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I had you started an account as fashion Crew.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Not at this point it was just on my personal.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Page and then gunder correct and then I thought, oh,
I'll make a page, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That was also like very exit to have a page.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
So I made a page and I called it fashion creticon.
Zero thought was put into the name of that, and
then I started putting them on the page because I thought,
I don't really want it to impact on me professionally
in my street sweeping career.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yees.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So I made a page and it got to the
point where I thought, I think I'm onto something here
because I had two hundred followers, and I promise you,
I thought this is really something like, I've got something here.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I just kept doing it, and you know, it was
a very slow burn when you consider that it's fourteen
years later.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Wow, and you're still on Facebook. You've got like three
hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Peace something like that. I think it's three hundred and
twenty five or something.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Sorry, at about one hundred and twenty on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
One hundred and thirty.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Oh actually a dare ye your book launch? We'll get there,
yeah wow. And so it just took off from there.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well yeah, I guess it just kind of grew every
time I'd post an album and people are very funny
in their comments as well.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
And I've never promoted it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It's always been something that you know, maybe someone would
tag a friend or I think what I wanted to
make sure is that anybody who was on there kind
of was there because they got the humor and they
found it funny.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I never did any of that. You know, Tiger Friend
or you know us A competition.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Wasn't really a thing back then.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
It became a thing. It did become a thing. And yeah,
and what.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's now, twenty twenty five, I think that interestingly, in
a world where we actually need a bit more lighthearted humor,
you can really cop it for using Jess, have you
found the tide has changed it all? With your Commentary's
always been very witty, I think, very innocent, really fun.
But have people changed from then to now that like
you can't say that?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I think actually I get less criticism now because I
think I'm better at being funny and satirical without being
super savage.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
In the beginning, it.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Was just savage out of my favorite day.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah it could be savage because like most of the
people on there are new and it was just like
kind of like the group chat with your best ears where.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You didn't really forward things on then and yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah so but at a time, but it was a
different time.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
One hundred percent the things that you could get away
with and I think the landscape of what's acceptable and
what's not has changed quite rapidly over time. Kerry Anne Kenney,
the Icon, attended my book launch in Sydney last week
and she got me to sign her book, and I wanted.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And she brought her book for you to say.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
She bought one on the night and she asked me
to sign it.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And I'm sorry your book. I thought she brought her
own book, like I wrote this book.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Now, actually I have written a book. So she she
got me to.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Sign my book and I wanted very much for her
to sign my boobs, but I chickened out.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
But she said to me, you.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Know, don't go too soft. You know, you've got to
be like Joan Rivers. You've got to very Jones. Well
she's away ever going to be Joone Rivers anyway. Oh yeah,
it has changed and I have changed with it. And
I think that's your responsibility as someone I don't think
of it myself as someone who's necessarily an expert on fashion.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I really median.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I like to make people laugh.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
You're a chameleon, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
So I think that you have to be able to
be fluid with the times.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, I was incredibly disappointed that I had to message
you the morning of the book launch and I couldn't
come because I had been to Spotlight. I didn't use
m chnomi, but I'd bought four meters of red velvet
and I was going to put it over myself and
God as there.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
How are you going to do that?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I hasn't been worked out yet.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I was just gonna cut to the lialse literally.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Like a ghost.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I would have collapsed with joy and happiness. Maybe next time,
maybe that to be your Halloween costume.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Oh, it's a great idea. Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So you use some colorful terms to illustrate your thoughts
and feelings, and I feel like most of your audience
no now what they are and what they mean and
how they started. But there's some people that might not
be across your fantastic colorful language. So I'm going to
name a few of them, and then you're gonna tell
me what they mean.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, should have caught the bus, So should.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Have caught the bus means you've got creasing on your garment,
usually in the sitting area, which is another term which I.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Photo was crotch whiskers.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, that was on the list.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, so these two are inextricably linked.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So if you have crotch whiskers, it is typically because
you arrived at the event sitting down in a cab
or a car or a limo or whatever, which is
typically how people would arrive at red carpets. And once
upon a time, I think it was twenty ten, Cape
Blanchette caught a public bus to the Actor Awards here
in Sydney because she was wearing a silk gown. Some
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fabrics don't crease a lot, and some creased terribly. So
she was wearing a silk or a satin sort of
type gown and she just took a photo on her
Instagram of her literally standing up holding onto a pole
on a.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Sydney Metro bus.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
A boss, so boss.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Ever since then, I was like, if I saw someone
with the creased out that, I'd say it should have
caught the bus, you know, that would have solved that problem.
And now they do catch the bus. They go in
big tall van.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yes, like Kim Kardashian when she had that course that
she had to go in a standing van because they.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
All do it now, they all do it. They stand
up and they hold onto the pole. It's not very
safe because there's no seat belts on.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's America.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
They don't care, or they lie stitchers aboard on the
back seat.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I like to think I could get fashion critical vans.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
That I could make my next career, yes, my third career.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yes, yes, forget street sweeping, street moving people in dresses.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I could do both. The van could have street sweepers
on the bottom.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
This is genius. So crotch whiskers.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That explains when I first saw that, I thought it
mean like I remember those jeans we used to buy
that just had the fake wrinkles that it.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Was just like the mate they're coming back, have you seen?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yes, but we're not worry But you know Keith Urban,
I feel like he wears crotch whisker jeans.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That checks Okay, it checks out. Toes toes toes.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
By the way, there is a glossary of terms at
the front.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Of my book, So I'm about to get to your book.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You will not be lost and confused. So toes.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Everybody has them. I'm not here to toe shame anyone.
You know, you can't help it that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You've got ten little piggly wigglies down there.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But what I am looking for is if I am
noticing your toes, this is not good.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Them to be detracting attention from the overall look. So
there's a couple of ways that they will do this,
and sometimes despite your best efforts, it will happen. So
if you're wearing a very high heel and it's not
a really great fit, like it's a little bit big,
your toes are going to splay out the front like
it's not narrow enough.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Or hang over the edge.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, they can actually make contact with the carpet, which
we don't want that, or your shoes too small, and
then you see them all like folded up.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Can I ask what about genetically if someone doesn't have
big toe to little toe, what if they're just born
with like a long middle toe.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well that's something you have to reckon with as a person,
so correct you can just wear a closed toe shoe.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
So there's nothing wrong with toes, you know, I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Know if you've ever broken a toe, if you've ever
broken a pinky til you literally can't walk, you need
all ten of them. So I'm not here to shame toes.
But if you are an A list celebrity on the
red carpet. I don't want to be really noticing your toes,
So a closed toe shoe or just a shoe that
fits and paint your toeels.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Bob's youre, I am so glad I changed into these
shoes right before you got here, bog.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Best on ground Best on ground.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Now, that's a very Victorian term that they use in
the AFL, which I think every game somebody is awarded
best on ground, which I guess means the best player
of the match. Yeah, we don't care about fair, We
just care about who looks good. So best on ground
will be whoever I dm at that event to be
the best dressed person. And there's a few things that
will influence that. It's not the same criteria for every
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red carpet. So what someone is wearing at the Grammys
or the VMA Awards obviously has a separate set of
criteria to someone It can't.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So the met Gala, like if they just go in
a boring dress, they haven't played correct.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
And on that note, you know, people get very very
excited about the Oscars red carpet and they say it's
it's fashion critical Christmas, it's actually very dull because people
are so perfectly put together and nobody takes risks at
the Oscars. It's very very formal, so you have a
lot more fun at the you know, it's something like
the Golden Globe.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yes, Grammys are good.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Grammy's are epic. Yeah, you know, anything goes, anything goes.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
What about Australia here with our football awards, That's all
I can think that we do.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, the brown Low, We've got the Logis. Of course.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Now, back in the day, fashion critical would have a
marvelous time at the Logis because people would wear all
kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And now everyone looks pretty good. So it is.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I did the Logans red carpet once when I was
at cost one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'm so glad you weren't there then.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was a zimmm and dress off a friend.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
But that's what people did, like.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
They did not have stylists, they didn't have whole style teams.
You see Australian celebrities or the wags and you know
the amount of people that they thank in their Instagram posts.
There's a lot of people working to put that look
together and.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So Tuesday night. Let alone. The logi is there.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, and so the stylists might have been, you know,
putting that output together for a couple of weeks or
even longer. So they actually scrub up really well and
everyone looks good, good, but boring.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
It is sad.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yes, it's limiting for me and my humorous whips.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You manage it, Okay, a few more do your hair?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Do your hair.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You'll be surprised to learn that that just means what
it says. It just looks like the person hasn't done their.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Hair, but because they're wearing such a fancy dress and
they just want that editorial bend.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, but that's fine, that's done. I'm talking about you'll
see in my book. You'll see what classifies as do
your hair.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's in there.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
There's section on hair and nails and accessories and all
the little extra touches.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So I'm talking about the wet look. It's not for me.
It's not for me. The wet look hair where you
look like you've just stepped out of the shower or
it's just like a hot mess.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Ever, what a wet looks slipped back high pony, Oh,
that's stunning.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Okay, but it we look out look like you did
your hair.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Okay, I like it.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Fraggle okay, so you know all the like, I guess
it's ostrich feathers that you see on dresses is very
very common on.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
The Red Carpet.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Correct, they look like deceased fraggles and so bad.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
People that are younger than us might not know what
fraggles are.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
They're like muppet cousins.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yes, and they're very fluffy, weird, fluffy little fellows. And
so when I see people wearing those feathers, I will
always call them out for fragle abuse or fraggle carnage.
Fraggles are ubiquitous with the Red Carpet, sadly so.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
That they are in peril. Their numbers are way down.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh, they're probably in dangered. Last one here, accessori has
gone wild. I'm assuming that's human accessories.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
How you style your outfit And for those playing at home,
probably people that listen to this podcast know things about fashion,
but the styling refers to how you put together. So
you've got a dress, and then how do you make
that whole? You know, how do you make the whole look?
So you know, your choice of accessories is definitely part
of that. And so, for example, at my book launch
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last week, I wore a magnificent dress and I had
quite an elaborate piece of like millinery that was made
for me by an amazing millinaire who has a millinery
company called Somewhere Millinery.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
They make head pieces, make head pieces, and.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
There was a lot going on. I didn't wear a
single piece of jaw. So that was a choice I
made where I like, I tried it on earrings. I
tried on rings, and I tried a necklace, and then
I was like, I actually think it's beautiful just as
it is. But then there's other cases where you might
be wearing like quite a simple black dress and then
you can put a lot with it and it looks
really really cool.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And sometimes they haven't really thought about it all in
one or they're getting paid a million dollars by a
fancy so and so to be dropping in something correct.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
And if you want to pay me to wear a
thousand accessories, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Levisa, come out it all right. Have you ever had
a reply or any discourse from a celebrity or person
that you've commented on.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yes, so you know if it's positive, they'll often share it.
They'll often say thank you so much. Oh, I was
so nervous about what you would say. And I find that, Hilaire,
because literally, who am I but a lowly street sweeper.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
So if it's positive, they're very positive. And then I
have had people like David Kosh.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Who you know, is the finance guy I've often made
who used to be on TV. I will often make
a joke if someone looks very kind of business like
that you know that he was styled by David Kosh,
and I'll tag him and he loves it. He's got
such a good at sense in him. He'll always reshare it.
I invited him to my launch.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
He couldn't come.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
He said it was devastating, like he's such a good sport,
you know. So there's definitely people who get it. There's
people who've reached out to me and said, do your
worst with me. Here's me at the logos, here's me
at the aris, like you know, usually usually people who
are finding themselves, like Joel Creasy or m Russiano or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So that's good fun. Yes, So this is a fun story.
It was quite recent.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I think I did a little red carpet for a
play that I was invited to, and Todd McKinney was there.
We haven't seen him yea quite a while, and he
was just in a plain blue seat. And I said
that he had been styled by the David Kosh School
of Finance, and once again, David Kosh thought that was
funny and shared it. And Todd mc kenny DMed me
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and he said, I had to go to a restaurant
and there was you know, requirement for a jacket and tie.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And I came straight from the restaurant and I.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Said, cool, Brah, it's all in good fun, like we're
all having a laugh. Anyway, I didn't hear back. You know,
if you've not seen it before, it does sound you know.
I think when you followed the page you get that
it's kind of funny and it's done in an affectionate way.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But he didn't care for it.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And as I have said before, if you were styled
by the David Kosh School of Finance, you're probably wearing
a really expensive suit.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's not a terrible thing. It's safe.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Boring.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It sounds like yeah, Graham from accounts, but it's not terrible.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It probably costs a lot of money, so.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It might be tailored to own that.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
What's the best red carpet event overall in terms of
attendees getting it right? I guess it's hard to answer
because you just said sometimes getting it right it's boring.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, Look, any of the major events I think are
always amazing. So the Emmys, the Golden Globes, the Oscars,
they're always which.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Is good but bad because it's not so much fun, right,
rageous and great to commentate, And there's a lot of
good and bad.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Well, I think if you go to a music awards,
as we talked about the Grammys the American Music Awards,
you get some people who have gone quite formal and
quite elegant, and then you get you know, artists who've
gone and won something absolutely bananas.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know, something.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Absolutely maybe bananas like actually.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Correct, So that is always super fun. Whereas if you
look at something like the MTV vs. Everybody kind of
looks a little bit wacky, but the Grammys you'll get
a mix. And then obviously something like the MAT Gala
is always just exceptional. And when we talk about the
criteria of what we're looking at, the met gala. There's
a theme, so it's very much about how have you
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dressed for the theme? Interpret and I don't want to
see understated that the met gala.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I want you dressed as a.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Cat like Jared Alito did, or like carrying your you know,
he also came wearing his head in his hands.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And we need to get you to the met Gala.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I need somebody out there.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'll make it happen. So you wrote a book.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's pretty impressive considering the streets need sweeping and clothes
need talking about. Tell us about the book and if
anyone hasn't got it yet, already yet.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I mean it's a bit back to the Vogue thing.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Even if you don't read it, it's it's really chic,
read like you just want it to look fancy.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, but how did you write it? And what's in it?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
So I was contacted by the nice people at Murder Books.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Did you actually write it?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Of course, I mean my followers would know immediately they
I think they said to me, if you want to
work with someone, and I said, I don't think so,
no one could replicate this wit.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So they said, we think you could write a book
and actually I had been.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Approached by it to publishers previously at other times, and
I just I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I just it's a big thing to do.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Well that that's it.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's a lot of work, and I think I fashion
critical for me has always been such fun and something
that I do genuinely for my own entertainment that I
didn't like the idea of being like then it being
a job.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah. It also feels very permanent in a book, where
it's like just waking up a photo and saying it's sentence.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, although you know, the internet is forever these days.
So anyway, they said, we think you could write a book,
and then I had to think about what the book
would be. So it is pretty much an overview of
red carpet celebrity fashion going back predominantly, I'd say ten
to fifteen years. You can't go too much further than
that because the pictures are not good and it's just
there's just too much content. So it's looking at everything,
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you know, we go through the major events, we go through,
what are some of the red carpet trends. I distribute
my own awards. I've got my own awards that I've
given out to certain people. I look at some of
the behind the scenes things that we talked about. I
interviewed Alex Perry, who's followed a fashion critical for a
long time and was so generous to let me interview him,
to actually say, what's actually going on back there?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
How does it work?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
You know, if you're a designer, how do your dresses
end up on these people? Do you know that they're
going to appear or does it just suddenly.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Have a buy it? Do you pay them?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, so I got to got to ask all of
those questions that she was really cool, and then it
finishes with you know my favorite looks of all time,
the people that I think are the best dressed. And
it is lots of pictures, so if you don't want
to read too many words, you'd be very pleased. And
it kind of harks back to the glory days of magazines,
Like the design and layout of it is beautiful and yeah,
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it's got a beautiful kind of faux red leather with
gold foil. So you can also just leave it sitting
on your coffee table. If you liked great Christmas.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Gift, great christmabulous, if you could dress one famous person
for the Red Carpet?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Who would it be?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Oh, that's a question I should have read beforehand. I'm
gonna come back to it. Yeah, hang on, hang on,
give me a minute, gimme a minute. Who would it be?
Who would it be? I think I'd like to dress Heidi.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Klum Oh, and why.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Because she is so beautiful but her she wins the
Box of Chocolates award in my book because you just
never know what you're going to get, and so I
think that's super fun with her, And I think she'd
kind of be what would you put her in? Well,
that's the thing. I think she'd be out for anything.
Like I think she's sometimes she wears really beautiful formal
things and sometimes she was really crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
So I think she'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So true, Who is your all time best on ground over?
How long you ever been doing this?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Male?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Female?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Like the person not look the person that just genuinely
almost always gets it right?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
There's well, I think there's a series of those MVPs
in the book and I don't have it in front
of me.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
But who first came to mind when I said that, Oh.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Kate Blinchette, you know, like, can you think of a
time where she didn't.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Look No, she always looks great. Her skin's beautiful, perfect.
I'm not bored.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I know, right, you're right, but I know, you know
Kate blind Sheet, Nicole Kidman. Yeah, there's you know, a
Mile Clooney, Oh never puts a foot wrong. Ever, there's
quite a few, actually, and then there's people who are
a little bit more edgy.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
What did you say, fair Man?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
But there are definitely some MVPs who for years and
years and years and years just keep churning out the
great looks. And they probably because they've got very very
good stylists, and I assume also they've just got really
excellent taste themselves and.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Lots of money. Yeah that helps. If you are invited
to the Oscars, what are you wearing?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Lord?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Look?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I would wear something very timeless. I think when you're
looking at the Oscars, you don't want anything trendy, you know.
I think anything that's kind of old Hollywood, you know,
the old Hollywood wave. I'm a big fan of yellow dresses.
I don't know if i'd go yellow at the Oscars,
but something a little bit of vintage, I think is
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where I would go.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Before we get into bootie budget, I'm gonna ask you
some quick, rapid fire questions.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Who's your red carpet spirit animal?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Coleman Domingo.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
He's a man's but he's he's not a flamingo, but
he is the best dressed man on the red carpet
at the moment, and he's I'm obsessed, obsessed.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
If fashion had a smell, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Bubblegum?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
What's the one outfit you'd send straight to fashion.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Jail hosary with open toad sandals?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Three words to describe a true best on ground bog.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Look, timeless, flattering and perfect.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
What's the biggest fashion crime of the decade.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I'm going to say the naked dress. Yeah, it's just
it's too much.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
We're getting more and more naked.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I want to see clothes. I don't want to see nudity.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Kanye West partner is actually naked naked. Yeah, okay. Last one.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
If you could ban one accessory forever, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
The choker? Easy? I don't care for it.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's very expensive. How m bougie and budget? So obviously
your fashion critical.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So we're kind of going red carpet inspired I mean,
you've been doing your own red carpet latly. I haven't
so minor make believe that I would wear. But let's
start with your bougie.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Well, I recently bought a Rebecca Valance cutie Patuti mini dress.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Is that what it's called?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It is absolutely not called that. Please don't google that.
You will not find it. People might be surprised to learn.
I don't spend a lot on myself. I'd rather buy
lots of things than expensive things.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So, but I you know, new.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Her dresses like are they're about like eight or nine
for that.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
This one was maybe seven hundred because it wasn't a gown.
It was a mini kind of day dress. But that
was a big spend for me.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
And I what colors.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It's black and white and it looks a little eighties,
almost like a little bit working women eighties, and it's glorious,
and I thought, I deserve this.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I've purchased it on the internet.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You have lots of things to do. She makes beautiful dresses. Well,
mine is absolutely in my dream. So I'm going somewhere phenomenal.
You can tell me where I'm going to wear this. Actually,
so I am buying and wearing. Actually no, they're going
to give it to me, that Albina Dialer embroidered corset dress.
It is two thousand, two hundred and sixty eight dollars
and ninety five cents. Because I'm a celebrity. So oh,
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I mean it's half naked, but.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
That's not naked. Yeah, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Look at the waist, look at the boob. Obviously there'll
be a link in the show notes. Look, of course
it is how long dress beat it? Oh my gosh,
I mean I want to go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, that's stunning.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I approve, approve, approved, all right, what's your budget?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
It is a Pilgrim dress that I got on the
Iconic on sale and it was sixty nine dollars and
it looks vintage, beautiful perfection. And I wore it in
a photo shoot for a newspaper the other day. Color black,
black sequin, kind of off the shoulders.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It looks like Princess Diana's Revenge dress.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
A little bit sixty nine dollars, velvet, no no sequence,
black sequin and like little bit of rooshy thing here.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
When I was picking my budget, I could not pick
between Pilgrim and that Chancery is any say that brand? Yes, okay,
I think so, and I picked a Chancery dress. But Pilgrim,
you haven't looked at for years.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Obviously don't do many reot carpets or fancy things. But
when I was looking at Pilgrim on the Iconic, I
was like, wow, Wi, Yeah, we need to go to places.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, they've got They've got really beautiful dresses. And I've
never bought anything from them before.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I feel like fifteen years ago, it was not my vibe.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I mean I don't. Again, I'm not overly. I don't
really follow particular labels in great way. But I saw
it online and you know, when you order online you
kind of hidd and miss.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
You don't know how it's going to fit. Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, my budget for my imaginary red carpet that I'm
going on is from the Iconic as well. Chancery is
a brand. It's called the Lotus Maxi dress. It's two
hundred and twenty dollars because it's new.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Oh, pink and red. Chink and red is a favorite
colour cumbo of mine.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I'm blessed kind of that's leading, I know, and look
you like black and mite, it comes in black and white.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
That's late. That looks a lot like something I wanted.
The logo is actually, did you go to the logies?
I got in on the SLY. I was not invited.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
So the black and white's down to one hundred and
thirty two dollars at the time of recording.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It need both of them.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Anyone has got.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Red carpet events or weddings or whatever chancery choice.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
What was your brand again?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It was Pilgrim.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Pilgrim on the Iconic.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, affordable, fabulous, love it fashion Critical. I know you
have streets to sweep and I don't know what else
you got.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
To places to be influence, probably.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Some air to get around and I would like that
very much. Thank you for joining me on it.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Thank you for having me. It was really fun, so fun.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Thank you so much for listening to Nothing to Air,
and don't forget you should head over to YouTube to
watch us to particularly this episode because you'll get to
see Fashion Critical in a very fancy outfit and disguise.
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