November 19, 2025 • 28 mins
This week, Leigh Campbell is getting personal with Mamamia’s entertainment writer and fashion obsessive, Chelsea Hui. She's one of the new voices you’ll be hearing on the pod, and this episode is all about her personal style philosophy.
They’re talking trends, from the controversial return of distressed denim to the battle between quiet luxury and full-blown maximalism. Chelsea also shares her shopping strategy as a self-confessed "impulsive" but intuitive shopper, telling us how she uses Depop for big-ticket items and why she’s a proud "collector," not a hoarder.
EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Leigh's Boujie:
Tod’s Glove Gommino Driving Shoes in Suede, $1230
Senso Astro II $249
Chelsea's Boujie: Ksubi Ksuper Surge Trashed $259.95
Leigh's Budget: Uniqlo COMPTOIR DES COTONNIERS Linen Blend Barrel Leg Pants $59.90 (Out Mid Oct)
Chelsea's Budget: Zara TRF RIPPED WIDE-LEG MID-WAIST JEANS $69.95
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to a mom with mere podcast. Hey you
biz Lee here?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Now, I know you love Spendy Sabe it's the most
popular segment. But did you know over on Nothing to Wear,
we have the version for your clothes. It's called Bougie
and Budget and it's my favorite part of the Nothing
to Wear podcasts. To have a listen to this episode
and let me know what you think of my Bougie
and Budget.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturved
laurels for spraying groundbreaking?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh my god, you have to do it. You live
for fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
The podcast solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe.
I'm Lee Campbell and every week I sit down with
an expert who helps us work out how to get
more out of the clothes we already own and tells
us exactly what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Now,
as you know, I've been away for a few weeks
and part of that was a trip to Canada, and
I'm going to tell you a little bit about it
at the end of the episode. And that's why the
(01:08):
delightful Chelsea filled in for me a few weeks ago
with Lecinda.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
She's one of the new voices you're going to hear
a bit more on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Chelsea is one of the entertainment writers here at Mamma
Maya and has a true passion for fashion, sharing her
love and shopping hacks on Instagram. So today I wanted
to chat to Chelsea. She's got some amazing insights about
how being Chinese Australian has shaped her self expression, and
we're diving deep into her wardrobe almost literally, to find
out where she shops, how she shops, if she's organized,
(01:37):
if she's a hoarder, and the items that she owns
that holds the most sentimental value. So Chelsea, welcome back
technically to Nothing to Wear. You did an episode with
Lucinda which I absolutely loved listening to.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But today it's all about you. We're going to get
to know you.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So first of all, I get to ask new guests
two questions. Firstly, can you describe your style in three words?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
For me?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I can try. I would say comfortable, eclectic, and edgy.
I hate using that word. Well I'm so quirky, but
I feel like it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, you know, people, it describes what you're trying to say, yeah, yeah,
it's something a little bit different. Yes, yes, great, I
like that eclectic. I like to be eclectic, but I
think I'm really just an unorganized mess and I itic
So the theory that we think is pretty true for
a lot of women wardrobe of clothes, but there's ten
percent of that wardrobe that we just wear more than
(02:31):
the rest. What's in your ten percent?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I have this black tank top that I got years
ago on Deepop Damn yep, and probably six days of
the week. That's something that I'm throwing on because it
just goes with everything. And I think more recently the headband.
I know, it's like kind of come back.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I have one or two and I think I wear
it probably seven days a week.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I need to get into a headband because my hair
is at an awkward length through it's always annoying and
in my face. But it doesn't go back to on
a full pony, so it's functional it is, but looks
so cute.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's also one of those things where like I get
like my fringe or like the front of my head
gets a little bit oily. Same slick it back, throw
a heapin on you look.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh my god, you need to come on your beauty. Yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And now I want to know what that black tank
is if you can track it down and find new ones.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, I have it in a few colors, but the
black one is the one that.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Just goes with everything.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
All right. So, as I said today, the topic is
kind of you. We've done a few of these in
the past. They're more of an in conversation style episode
to get to know you. You're going to be joining
us more on this podcast, which is very exciting. So
I want to know who are you, what do you love,
what do you do in your spare time, what inspires you?
(03:41):
Give us the lowdown on who you are.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, so I'm the entertainment right to hear at Mamma Mia.
So I feel like it comes as no surprise that
the things I love really sort of live in that world.
I love to read, love to write, and I love
movies and TV and that's a lot of kind of
what inspires me as well fashion wise, but just in life,
I get a lot of inspiration from pop culture and
what I see on screen, and as far as fashion goes,
(04:04):
I feel like I actually draw a lot of inspiration
from the people my life. I have a lot of
very fashionable friends, my sister, my mom. I love looking
at all photos of my mom and my grandma home
and like pulling inspiration.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Now listen, you're a writer and an author, congratulations, and
you write so beautifully about your bicultural experiences. So how
has been a Chinese Australian shaped your identity and your
self expression beyond the words that you write, Because you've
written two beautiful books, you are an incredible poet. But
(04:39):
how has it shaped what you wear and your beauty approach,
your fashion, your wardrobe, how you show up in the world.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, that's such a lovely question. I mean, I feel
like growing up kind of straddling to cultures. You sort
of grew up with these two very different lenses, and
when you're younger, you spend a lot of time trying
to reconcile those two things and trying to be one
or the other.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I was going to ask if it test to feel
like one or the other.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think growing up it felt that way
for a very long time. But I think now as
an a adult, those sort of two cultures just feel
intertwined in you, and I feel like talking about fashion
or beauty it really trickles into to everything. So I
feel like I draw a lot of inspiration from Hong
Kong where that's where my family is from, and Aussie fashion,
(05:21):
so they're sort of both Eastern and Western influence, which
I think is actually really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well it's the best of both. Go it's really yeah.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So we're here to talk fashion and style. It's called
nothing to Wear. So what is your personal approach to
fashion and getting dressed?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I think for me, I'm quite an impulsive person, so
now in my twenty twenty five self, I try to
be quite intuitive with how I shop. I love going
on deep hop eBay, doing like vintage shopping, and I
feel like the bigger ticket items I try to secondhand shop,
and then yeah, for trends, I kind of go the
lower end, but I really shop like piece by piece
(05:59):
instead of having like an ideal look. I don't really
do mood boards and look books and things like that either.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I want to be that person, but it feels like
too much work.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I just see an item that I love, can I go, Oh,
it's cheap, I'll buy it, or oh it's expensive, I wish.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's me as well. I feel like if I see something,
I'm like, does this fuck joy? Does this piece of
clothing make me excited? Is it something I can afford about?
How I'm gonna style it with stuff that I own,
and then I'll go ahead and get it. I don't
really think about it in terms of like I want
this look the specific.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Life I say. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I also think like, unless you're a celebrity or someone
that's constantly on camera, I mean misort of on camera,
but it doesn't count. But I just don't think it
looks like, Oh I like that top, it'll go with
enough things.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And how much you said comfortable is one of your words,
So how much does practicality play into what you buy?
Maybe it's you buy it and then it ends up
in your order when you don't wear it because it's
not comfy, versus wanting to you know, we work in
a semi glamorous industry, versus buying things because it feels aspirational.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You know, I've learned that lesson. It's like, oh, I
work in media, I'll buy this fancy thing and then
I just live in leggings. Yep, yeah, so have you
do you still struggle with that?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I do a lot. I think these days I try
to be a little bit more careful with that, because,
like you said, I end up having a wardrobe full
of things because they're not comfortable, I won't wear it.
That's like a number one thing for me.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Like they're pretty, but no one sees them.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, even if it's like it could be the most
beautiful thing in the world, but if I can't. Also,
because day to day I'm coming into the office, I'm
writing most of the day, so I'm sitting at my desk.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
If I really can't, no way get it.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, it has to be something that's kind of loose
fitting on the waist. I can sit in it, I
can eat and do all that. So I feel like
that's like probably a top priority for me. I'll see something,
if I like it, I'll have to think about, like
is this comfortable. Like practically, I've.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Learned that lesson at a good age. Trust me, I've
only just learnt it, and so I've still got all
the pretty things.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But I mean it's just it's like that sometimes, isn't it.
I have like tons of dresses and things that just
like even like corset type tops. Yeah, but I mean
I love it. I mean it's beautiful, but just like
practically day to day, just not something that I would wear.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I agree with you, Okay, I want to talk and
get your opinion about fashion versus style.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Are they different? What is your opinion on those two terms.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I mean, I haven't given that a whole lot of thought,
but in my opinion, fashion to me feels a little
bit more external, where a style feels more internal and
kind of personal in a way. I feel like fashion is
kind of informed by more external factors and sometimes it's
maybe what's trending, what's current, or maybe what was trending
(08:33):
at a particular period of time, whereas style feels deeply
personal and I think, you know, I might see something
I might not know if it's in fashion, but i'll
know if it's yeah style.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Your style.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, And they tend to be I think the things
that live in your wardrobe the longest and have the
longest longevity, regardless of if they're an investment piece or
the price, because you're kind of subconscious picked it rather
than going, oh, red shoes, I better get some red shoes.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's a good way to put it. Talk to about shopping.
Are we an in real life person? Are we an
online shop? But you mentioned being impulsive? How do you
control that?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Do you have some strategies? How do you go shopping?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
So I feel like a bit of both. I feel
like the gen Z and Me is very much like online.
Love to brows? Do you pop?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Love to getting at computers all day? Sometimes I just
accidentally go over to a website.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Agreed, It's just so much easier. Also, just for convenience sake,
I think, Yeah, that's kind of how I've shopped for
the last I mean several years. But I have recently
started kind of going back into stores and having that
and I love that so much. I think it also
can be like a bit of a social experience. So
I love to go shopping with my mom friends and
kind of make a day of it. And the experience
(09:43):
of just going in and trying things on. Yeah, I
think is actually a lot of fun. So I think
a little bit of both.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I shop online now more than ever before because life.
But when I look at what I wear the most,
it's oftentimes the things I've bought in real life because
I've seen the fabric, I've really tried it on. You know,
I've got you know, I do a lot of online returns.
I keep a lot of my online purchases. But the
things I really love, often times what I've touched physically
before I paid the money.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, that's so true. I think. Like also, nothing can
really replicate like being able to try something. Yeah, And
I feel like for so long I really took that
for granted.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, And also I think you have to think a
little bit more, like even if it's just to talk
to the register now on the internets, just press one button.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, you don't even have to enter your credit card.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's and also crazy, well, the shipping, it's you. Often
I find that I don't know if you're the same,
You tend to add more things to your basket, just like.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Say sixty dollars more.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I came out of the showering yesterday. My son likes
to research things on my laptop. He's in kindy. He
doesn't know what he's doing. He had gone onto Amazon
and bought these toys because it's just like a big
yellow button. He can't really read, but he goes, you know,
playing a video game Yellow, Great to the next step,
Yellow to the next step.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's that easy.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And you know, if you don't have any self control, Yeah, yeah,
yea like me. So trends, yes or no, you'd be
across them because obviously you're just across the zeitghost from
a new know entertainment perspective as well, So you're always
on social media, always seeing what you know, famous people are,
non famous people are doing.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Are you into trends? You are? I hopefully are, because
I am too.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I don't do everyone, but I feel like it you
meant to be embarrassed to say I like trend.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I know exactly, like literally exactly what you just said.
I think, Yes, I love a trend, but I don't
buy into every single trend. Yeah, I think for for instance,
like when animal print came back, lembit print not for you, No,
I love it great too. Now have like cow print shoes.
My bag is leftard pre like, I love it so much.
And I think it's because I've always kind of loved that,
(11:43):
Like there was a period of time when I was
younger that was sort of in as well, and I've
kind of kept all the things that I had, and
I was really sad when it went out of style. Yeah,
so I think it's more about picking a trend that
you genuinely were than not just because everyone's way.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I agree, And that's a great example. Like you've always
had an affinity for animal print, but you probably didn't
buy much up until recently because it just wasn't around.
But then when a trend comes back or is around,
you've just got more choice. Agree, Like, for example, peplums everywhere.
I don't love peplum. I did it the first time.
I'm not going back there. But if I was a
peplum lover.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Now I've got heaps to cheps wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So it's more just like you can dip in and
out when the tide comes with that trend, but don't
feel like you have to catch every wave.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yes, And I also think if you're buying it because
you really really love that trend, even when it's no
longer a trend, there's opportunities where you can kind of
style it a certain way.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I just wear it because it makes me happy.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Really agree.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
This is an interesting one because I feel like these
two trends, I mean they're not really trends, so they're
kind of movements are happening at the same time. First
we had Quiet Luxury, which is still kind of around,
and then now we're seeing maximalism.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Do you err on either side? Are you one or
the other?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And do you think they can exist in the same
wardrobe or I'm the same person?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I think personally speaking, I am like a maximalist girl,
like through and through. I love like bag charms, phone charms,
all charms. I love like I don't know if fun
prints colors and kind of matching. Yes, I'm a huge
fan of that and kind of adding a little bit
of character to an outfit. In saying that, though, I
do think they can co exist. I think, you know,
(13:17):
maybe taking some things from the quiet Luxury movement and
like getting really like higher quality foundational.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Pieces because maximalist doesn't have to mean a lot of things. No, yeah,
that's say sometimes people get confused.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, so I think they definitely can coexist. You can
kind of take little bits from each movement. But personally speaking,
I do. I do love that maximalism is kind of
having a little bit of a comeback.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
See I'm not either, I wish I was quite luxury,
but I'm just quite classic and boring. But my wardrobe
is maximalist just because I've got so much stuff, but
I don't put it on all together. Maybe that's how
I need to get more aware out of my things.
It's just do some more quirky combinations.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, have some fun with it, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So talk to me about getting dressed. Do you plan
your outfits the night before? Do you wake up and
just go with the vibes? Do you ever, like do
a Sunday night the whole week ahead? And how long
does it take you from picking the outfit to out
the door?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So, no, there's no planning involved whatsoever. I think I'm
a pretty chaotic person. So I just got to sleep,
wake up, I think. I mean it's weather dependent too.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do you check the weather?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I don't check it. I just look out the windows
kind of same.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
My husband always checks the weather.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Was mine, Oh it's going to be twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Seven today, and I'm like at seven am, I'm cold.
And then i get to three pm and I was like.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh, yeah, I'm exactly the same. So I'll just kind
of look out the window, check the vibe in the morning,
see how I'm feeling yes, in terms of throwing it together,
maybe I think picking it generally takes longest, so I'll
be like fifteen minutes maybe.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But it's the least amount of time for that, and
then I get frustrated.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Same same, and then I'll end up walking out of
the house and something that I hate. Same, I'll be
like I hate everything.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Is on the floor. And then when I get home
from work, I'm like, well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm exactly the same. But yeah, I don't leave too
much time to get ready. But I also just don't
think I'm so one who like would the night before
sit around and be like, oh, yeah, let's think about
what I'm gonna wear. Ye, yeah, it gotta be the
on the day kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Interesting I think about an item sometimes I'm like I
really want to wear those pants this week tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And then you style it on the day. Yeah, we'll
figure it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Out on Well, then you wake up and it's pouring rain,
You're like, well, I want to wear my sheep pants
all right? So, speaking of getting dressed in your wardrobe,
what's your approach there?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Are you a color? Are you a hoarder? Is it organized?
Is it messy?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
How do you store your things and do you have
any tips for wardrobe and organization.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I am like the worst person to ask for organizational tips.
Like ever, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I've met my kindred spirit. Thank god.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Everyone's sitting in that chair is so organized, and I'm
just like, why can't I beat.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It by I'm just not that I wish I was.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I'm just not.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, I think my wardrobe is very chaotic. I am
a hoarder. I just I mean, I'm a collector. Same.
I love that I'm gonna use that from now on.
I'm a collector, not a hoarder. Yes, but I find
it really hard to part with I do try to
every now and then, do it a little bit, do
some you know, to clear the space for new things. Yes,
(16:14):
but it is hard. So, I mean there's probably items
in my clothing that I've had since like early UNI high.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
School, which maybe that speaks to back to the style
thing that you're buying things in your style, so you
don't want to get rid of them because they're still useful.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, I think like even maybe i'd yes, exactly, I
think there are things that I've had for a long
time that maybe I haven't touched for a little while,
but then there will be an occasion. I know everyone's yeah,
like I'll find a time to wear it. But truly,
that feels very real for me. Where you find something, yeah,
I'll find something. I'll be like, oh, that still feels
my style. It feels like I could still pair it
with something. So I just find it hard to throw
(16:49):
things away.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I don't think you have to do it as long
as those things still bring you joy and you.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Okay, I'm glad you're.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Not organized like the rest of my will. Okay, this
is fun. Imagine you have an unlimited budget, but you
can only buy one color of clothing, use accessories for
the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
What color and why?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
This is going to be so boring and basic? But
it's got to be black.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, but you can go to Chanelle and buy all
the black Chanels.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, all the black pa exactly. You know, the world
is your oyster. When it comes to.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Black white, it would yeah, I think, oh, cream, like,
can we have can I have.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Very variations of the same color?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Okay, well you know off white maybe? I mean black
is very classic. It's a hard one, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It is hard? I think the only thing with white.
I think I spoke about this last time. I don't
have a lot of white.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I have mostly white. Yeah, I don't wear a lot
of black.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think it's my hair, especially when it's very dark
in a bob, and then when I wear a black
I feel like I look like a lego or a
floating head. Okay, but it's the unlimited budget that threw me,
because I think oftentimes what holds me back from experimenting
more with color is that I feel like you need
more combinations to put it with ye where you know.
(18:05):
That's why I try and keep things quite neutral. I
don't try, but that's generally how I get there. But
if I've got an unlimited budget, then I can buy
all the different color combos.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That's a very mean question, it is, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Okay, I'm going to take black and white off the table.
You have to choose a color, Okay, brown count.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, brown, I think brown two. Actually, if I'm not
allowed black or white.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think brown's also having quite a quite a moment.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Soft.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I just feel like it's still very neutral. But I
don't know something fun about it?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You know, I agree, and it just feels like rich. Yes,
and now we are rich, we can buy all the
extensive It's so true.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
What's the one item in your wardrobe that has the
most emotional or sentimental value?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
For me, it's jewelry in general. So with fashion, I'm
a little bit more. I don't know. I'm happy to,
you know, try a trend or try something different, Whereas
with jewelry, I'm very very intentional about what I buy.
And I think that really comes from my mom and
my grandma, and they've kind of passed down different pieces
to me, and I try to build a collection that
I wear all the time that I'm going to keep forever. Yes, pieces, Yeah,
(19:08):
it would probably be like a family piece. There's a
like a pearl necklace my grandma gave me that I
wore on my wedding day and that's just like so
so special to me. So probably like a family piece.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I had a necklace on my wedding day, but I
don't know what I've done with it. Thanks for minding me.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It wasn't obviously wasn't fancy. I think my husband like
went to Levisa the day before because someone told him
that you meant to like send something.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Oh my God, that's so cute though.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Okay, few more questions then we'll get into bougie and budget.
What's your favorite ever purchase that you've made.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I would say I think I wore this on the
pod last time. I will just leather jacket. It's kind
of a blazer style leather jacket. It's very old and
worn in black, yes.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But they wear in so well.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
But I actually got that in Japan at a vintage
store for like twenty dollars or something, and I've worn
it so much. I wear it almost every day and
it was worth all the hours I spent sifting through
those racks.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
See, I'm a huge thrifter and I've been to Japan,
but not since thrifting has blown up there.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I need like four days, two suitcases and go by myself.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You will love it. It's amazing there. Just like the kind
of variations of styles, and there's like also like higher
end obviously your designer like luxury.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, but I still like sifting through the cheap style.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh, it's amazing, And just the volume there because Australia
is getting great for thrifting, but we just don't have
the population to do the donation for the thrifting.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, those whole like areas where like that whole it's.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Like a whole street of shops for trench coasts.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I think nothing to needs to go on to it.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, last one, what do you think most people misunderstand
about style?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I think maybe just some of the rules around fashion
and style. So one of the ones I think of
is that you have to dress to flatter your body
type or what that means, like fluttering.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Which we're really saying slimming, yes, or hiding bits that
you don't like, which is very you know, a magazine
hangover and apologies they used to work at magazines. But
flattering can just I think flattering should mean what makes
you feel good? Yes, I might be an oversized T shirt.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, yeah, hundred percent. I think it's if you feel
good in it, then it works, you know, then it's stylish.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Flattering really, is you in a good mood? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Else eyes, yes, yes, yes, that's probably for me. Like
what I feel like is a little bit still outdated
when we hear.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Terms, and you know, we still use the term because
it kind of gets to the point and we know
what we mean but it feels outdated. Yeah, yeah, just
feel good fashion, flattering fashion.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, you're a wise woman. It's very expensive, how wonder.
Let's do boogie and budget.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So it's just anything we've recently purchased or on our
wish lists. Are in a new season, so you know,
there's lots of thing to choose from. Do you want
to choose your boogie your budget first?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'll go with my budget first to both the things
I've chosen are kind of the same item but different
price for love, I think is good. So my budget
is the Zara ripped wide leg midwaist jeans. Okay, And
last time I was on the pod, we spoke about
how ripped, yes distressing is back, which I love. That's
(22:21):
like a trend that I'm very much for. I've been waiting,
like eagerly waiting for it to come back. So when
I saw it on the.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
One, I know I need to get my head around it.
It is yeah, like we're not doing that massive hole
in our knee.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I mean, who knows that may like that makes up.
But also these Aura jeans are kind of like a
little like just a small step where the elevated slightly
distressed here and maybe a little bit on the knee.
They're not too crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
They're not your Grandma's not going to go let me
buy some jean.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No. So I think these are kind of a little
taster of like a little bit of distressing that still
feels quite tasteful.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Cool. I love that. How much are they?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
They are sixty nine ninety five, so not too bad.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And if you don't want to buy brand new, go
thrifted because that's where all the old distressed ones are
have been donated, or just buy someone just yes.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I was gonna say, if you have old gins that
you never wear anymore, it's a nice trud just like
make some decisions for them a little bit. There's like
a million tatorials on you.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, my budget is also a pair of pants, so
they're a pair of Unigo pants, and I have last
year's version. They're doing an almost identical version this year,
but they're not launched until mid October. So what I
love about the Unuklear website is there's a coming soon.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Tab I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, it makes me excited because it also makes me
less impulsive because I go there and think, oh I
can't get them and then I think about them. But
I have these pants in kind of like a light
khaki olive, and I have worn them to death. And
that is not to say they're not good quality. I
just love them, and I get so many comments on them.
So this season's version is called the Linen Blend Barrel
leg Pants fifty nine ninety. When I say linen blend,
(23:55):
it's not that sort of Byron bay Lineny Lineny beach linen.
It's very kind of urban linen. You can wear them
in the city, you could wear them out to drinks.
They're so comfy, they're so good. Fifty nine fifty Oh good.
I love a barrel, yes, and it's also it's not
an extreme barrel, it's quite it's, you know, a cool
but tapered, wearable barrel. I'm literally gonna get a recolor
(24:17):
this season because I wish I did last year. They're
so can't fee they're breathable. Wow, I should be an ambassador.
What's your bougie So you've got a bougie version.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yes, So my bougie version is the SUBI Super Serge
Trashed again distress. These are a little bit more distressed,
maybe a bit too much for your taste for your taste.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You watch in three weeks, I'll be coming.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I love these, though there's a little bit more distressing
on the front, and I feel like, I don't know,
I just I think it's a part of me that
used to wear distress jeans. I still have all my
distress jeans. Like when people stopped wearing them, I was
really sad about it, and so I feel like I
still got that. Yeah, and I can pull them out
now and it's trendy again.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna work on that. Although why
in my mid forties do I.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Feel like I have to?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But I agree they can look very cool, like even
if you do a distress jean, but an oversized fitted
kind of blazer, like you don't have to look like
you're going to this game.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, I think you know.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's the same way I feel about. You know, we
talked about peplam before, how I hate that when it
was around back in the twenty tens and the way
it was styled. But I do think there's some really
chic and unique ways to style it now that we
weren't doing.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I agree, and it would agreed. So if there's a
trend that's coming back. Forget how you wore it and
look at it with fresh eyes before you write it off.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Agree, Okay, Well my bougie is inspired by I just
got back. Actually you filled in for me, Thank you.
I was in Canada for a workstrip. I was in Toronto,
which I'm moving to you. By the way, this is
my resignation only joking. I've been to Toronto a couple
of times, but it's just above New York City. It's
New York City without the madness of you know that
country at the moment. And also the dollars pretty much
(25:49):
on par and they were all going into autumn winter.
And what I love to see was because we're seeing
so much summer or spring summer suede here, they're all
all the chocolate and tan. Swedes are still everywhere in Zara,
in h and m in Mango, and they get cold, cold,
cold there. So if you are thinking about investing in
a Swede anything, do it now. Wear it through summer
(26:11):
obviously differently, not to like the beach, but we're seeing
a lot of swayed for the first time in a
hot season.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
But you're going to invest.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So I saw some really cool women walking around and
it was quite warm for the time of year, so
they were in their Swede loafers but with shorts and
a blazer or swayed loafers with a cool flowy maxi,
which we can do now and then you can wear
them with EU jeans and stuff later. So I've got
a very affordable pair from one hundred years ago that
I wore on that trip, but it made me realize
(26:40):
actually they fell apart on.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
The trip pretty much. I mean there's some slippery stairs.
This all fell off.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Anyway, I want a new pair of beautiful kind of
swayed I'm calling it a loafer, but they're not really
like a business loafer. It's kind of a moccasin hybrid.
My dream pair are the Todds driving shoes in Swaye
and how much of those they are one thousand, two
hundred and thirty dollars. I always love them, but I'm
(27:08):
still not going to buy them because they've got that
like classic Todd's tread that's like like a dry They
call it a driving shoe, so I know the base
is durable, yep.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But I ain't got a thousand dollars to spend on
sweet shoes.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Dollars are steep.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
It's crazy, and I'm tough on my shoes. I do
have some fancy pairs, but I often get them on
deep hop.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I'm not spending that much money on new shoes, so
in reality, I think I'm going to get the scent
so astro too. They are very similar, you know, like
I said, loafery but not business loaf, like casual loaf,
a bit of a moccasin two hundred and forty nine okay,
And there's a bunch of different colour swedes. I'm going
to get the kind of darker tan erring on the
side of brown, but.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Not chocolate brown. Yeah, yeah, yah, yeah, I just want
to wear them forever. I'm so excited. A loafer is
just I love a loafer.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And I think, you know, we all go oh summer
blah blah blah, but I still come to the office
and I've done you know.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, Sometimes you want to close to a shoe.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, agreed. Sometimes you don't want to wear sandals into this.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Sometimes you don't have a petty Sometimes the ac.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is blasting and you just need a kadi and a
pair of losses.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I have a Chelsea, thank you. So much. I love
getting to know you better.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
We're going to have you back on quite frequently, I think,
and thank you for filling in for me when I
went away.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Thank you, see you soon.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget
to sign up to the Nothing to Wear newsletter. There's
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You can watch us on YouTube and follow us on
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Speaker 1 (28:28):
We'll be back soon. Bye.
You're listening to a mom with mere podcast. Hey you
biz Lee here?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Now, I know you love Spendy Sabe it's the most
popular segment. But did you know over on Nothing to Wear,
we have the version for your clothes. It's called Bougie
and Budget and it's my favorite part of the Nothing
to Wear podcasts. To have a listen to this episode
and let me know what you think of my Bougie
and Budget.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturved
laurels for spraying groundbreaking?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh my god, you have to do it. You live
for fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
The podcast solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe.
I'm Lee Campbell and every week I sit down with
an expert who helps us work out how to get
more out of the clothes we already own and tells
us exactly what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Now,
as you know, I've been away for a few weeks
and part of that was a trip to Canada, and
I'm going to tell you a little bit about it
at the end of the episode. And that's why the
(01:08):
delightful Chelsea filled in for me a few weeks ago
with Lecinda.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
She's one of the new voices you're going to hear
a bit more on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Chelsea is one of the entertainment writers here at Mamma
Maya and has a true passion for fashion, sharing her
love and shopping hacks on Instagram. So today I wanted
to chat to Chelsea. She's got some amazing insights about
how being Chinese Australian has shaped her self expression, and
we're diving deep into her wardrobe almost literally, to find
out where she shops, how she shops, if she's organized,
(01:37):
if she's a hoarder, and the items that she owns
that holds the most sentimental value. So Chelsea, welcome back
technically to Nothing to Wear. You did an episode with
Lucinda which I absolutely loved listening to.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But today it's all about you. We're going to get
to know you.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So first of all, I get to ask new guests
two questions. Firstly, can you describe your style in three words?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
For me?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I can try. I would say comfortable, eclectic, and edgy.
I hate using that word. Well I'm so quirky, but
I feel like it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, you know, people, it describes what you're trying to say, yeah, yeah,
it's something a little bit different. Yes, yes, great, I
like that eclectic. I like to be eclectic, but I
think I'm really just an unorganized mess and I itic
So the theory that we think is pretty true for
a lot of women wardrobe of clothes, but there's ten
percent of that wardrobe that we just wear more than
(02:31):
the rest. What's in your ten percent?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I have this black tank top that I got years
ago on Deepop Damn yep, and probably six days of
the week. That's something that I'm throwing on because it
just goes with everything. And I think more recently the headband.
I know, it's like kind of come back.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I have one or two and I think I wear
it probably seven days a week.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I need to get into a headband because my hair
is at an awkward length through it's always annoying and
in my face. But it doesn't go back to on
a full pony, so it's functional it is, but looks
so cute.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's also one of those things where like I get
like my fringe or like the front of my head
gets a little bit oily. Same slick it back, throw
a heapin on you look.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh my god, you need to come on your beauty. Yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And now I want to know what that black tank
is if you can track it down and find new ones.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, I have it in a few colors, but the
black one is the one that.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Just goes with everything.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
All right. So, as I said today, the topic is
kind of you. We've done a few of these in
the past. They're more of an in conversation style episode
to get to know you. You're going to be joining
us more on this podcast, which is very exciting. So
I want to know who are you, what do you love,
what do you do in your spare time, what inspires you?
(03:41):
Give us the lowdown on who you are.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, so I'm the entertainment right to hear at Mamma Mia.
So I feel like it comes as no surprise that
the things I love really sort of live in that world.
I love to read, love to write, and I love
movies and TV and that's a lot of kind of
what inspires me as well fashion wise, but just in life,
I get a lot of inspiration from pop culture and
what I see on screen, and as far as fashion goes,
(04:04):
I feel like I actually draw a lot of inspiration
from the people my life. I have a lot of
very fashionable friends, my sister, my mom. I love looking
at all photos of my mom and my grandma home
and like pulling inspiration.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Now listen, you're a writer and an author, congratulations, and
you write so beautifully about your bicultural experiences. So how
has been a Chinese Australian shaped your identity and your
self expression beyond the words that you write, Because you've
written two beautiful books, you are an incredible poet. But
(04:39):
how has it shaped what you wear and your beauty approach,
your fashion, your wardrobe, how you show up in the world.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, that's such a lovely question. I mean, I feel
like growing up kind of straddling to cultures. You sort
of grew up with these two very different lenses, and
when you're younger, you spend a lot of time trying
to reconcile those two things and trying to be one
or the other.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I was going to ask if it test to feel
like one or the other.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think growing up it felt that way
for a very long time. But I think now as
an a adult, those sort of two cultures just feel
intertwined in you, and I feel like talking about fashion
or beauty it really trickles into to everything. So I
feel like I draw a lot of inspiration from Hong
Kong where that's where my family is from, and Aussie fashion,
(05:21):
so they're sort of both Eastern and Western influence, which
I think is actually really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well it's the best of both. Go it's really yeah.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So we're here to talk fashion and style. It's called
nothing to Wear. So what is your personal approach to
fashion and getting dressed?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I think for me, I'm quite an impulsive person, so
now in my twenty twenty five self, I try to
be quite intuitive with how I shop. I love going
on deep hop eBay, doing like vintage shopping, and I
feel like the bigger ticket items I try to secondhand shop,
and then yeah, for trends, I kind of go the
lower end, but I really shop like piece by piece
(05:59):
instead of having like an ideal look. I don't really
do mood boards and look books and things like that either.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I want to be that person, but it feels like
too much work.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I just see an item that I love, can I go, Oh,
it's cheap, I'll buy it, or oh it's expensive, I wish.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's me as well. I feel like if I see something,
I'm like, does this fuck joy? Does this piece of
clothing make me excited? Is it something I can afford about?
How I'm gonna style it with stuff that I own,
and then I'll go ahead and get it. I don't
really think about it in terms of like I want
this look the specific.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Life I say. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I also think like, unless you're a celebrity or someone
that's constantly on camera, I mean misort of on camera,
but it doesn't count. But I just don't think it
looks like, Oh I like that top, it'll go with
enough things.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And how much you said comfortable is one of your words,
So how much does practicality play into what you buy?
Maybe it's you buy it and then it ends up
in your order when you don't wear it because it's
not comfy, versus wanting to you know, we work in
a semi glamorous industry, versus buying things because it feels aspirational.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You know, I've learned that lesson. It's like, oh, I
work in media, I'll buy this fancy thing and then
I just live in leggings. Yep, yeah, so have you
do you still struggle with that?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I do a lot. I think these days I try
to be a little bit more careful with that, because,
like you said, I end up having a wardrobe full
of things because they're not comfortable, I won't wear it.
That's like a number one thing for me.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Like they're pretty, but no one sees them.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, even if it's like it could be the most
beautiful thing in the world, but if I can't. Also,
because day to day I'm coming into the office, I'm
writing most of the day, so I'm sitting at my desk.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
If I really can't, no way get it.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, it has to be something that's kind of loose
fitting on the waist. I can sit in it, I
can eat and do all that. So I feel like
that's like probably a top priority for me. I'll see something,
if I like it, I'll have to think about, like
is this comfortable. Like practically, I've.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Learned that lesson at a good age. Trust me, I've
only just learnt it, and so I've still got all
the pretty things.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But I mean it's just it's like that sometimes, isn't it.
I have like tons of dresses and things that just
like even like corset type tops. Yeah, but I mean
I love it. I mean it's beautiful, but just like
practically day to day, just not something that I would wear.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I agree with you, Okay, I want to talk and
get your opinion about fashion versus style.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Are they different? What is your opinion on those two terms.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I mean, I haven't given that a whole lot of thought,
but in my opinion, fashion to me feels a little
bit more external, where a style feels more internal and
kind of personal in a way. I feel like fashion is
kind of informed by more external factors and sometimes it's
maybe what's trending, what's current, or maybe what was trending
(08:33):
at a particular period of time, whereas style feels deeply
personal and I think, you know, I might see something
I might not know if it's in fashion, but i'll
know if it's yeah style.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Your style.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, And they tend to be I think the things
that live in your wardrobe the longest and have the
longest longevity, regardless of if they're an investment piece or
the price, because you're kind of subconscious picked it rather
than going, oh, red shoes, I better get some red shoes.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's a good way to put it. Talk to about shopping.
Are we an in real life person? Are we an
online shop? But you mentioned being impulsive? How do you
control that?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Do you have some strategies? How do you go shopping?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
So I feel like a bit of both. I feel
like the gen Z and Me is very much like online.
Love to brows? Do you pop?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Love to getting at computers all day? Sometimes I just
accidentally go over to a website.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Agreed, It's just so much easier. Also, just for convenience sake,
I think, Yeah, that's kind of how I've shopped for
the last I mean several years. But I have recently
started kind of going back into stores and having that
and I love that so much. I think it also
can be like a bit of a social experience. So
I love to go shopping with my mom friends and
kind of make a day of it. And the experience
(09:43):
of just going in and trying things on. Yeah, I
think is actually a lot of fun. So I think
a little bit of both.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I shop online now more than ever before because life.
But when I look at what I wear the most,
it's oftentimes the things I've bought in real life because
I've seen the fabric, I've really tried it on. You know,
I've got you know, I do a lot of online returns.
I keep a lot of my online purchases. But the
things I really love, often times what I've touched physically
before I paid the money.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, that's so true. I think. Like also, nothing can
really replicate like being able to try something. Yeah, And
I feel like for so long I really took that
for granted.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, And also I think you have to think a
little bit more, like even if it's just to talk
to the register now on the internets, just press one button.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, you don't even have to enter your credit card.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's and also crazy, well, the shipping, it's you. Often
I find that I don't know if you're the same,
You tend to add more things to your basket, just like.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Say sixty dollars more.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I came out of the showering yesterday. My son likes
to research things on my laptop. He's in kindy. He
doesn't know what he's doing. He had gone onto Amazon
and bought these toys because it's just like a big
yellow button. He can't really read, but he goes, you know,
playing a video game Yellow, Great to the next step,
Yellow to the next step.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's that easy.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And you know, if you don't have any self control, Yeah, yeah,
yea like me. So trends, yes or no, you'd be
across them because obviously you're just across the zeitghost from
a new know entertainment perspective as well, So you're always
on social media, always seeing what you know, famous people are,
non famous people are doing.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Are you into trends? You are? I hopefully are, because
I am too.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I don't do everyone, but I feel like it you
meant to be embarrassed to say I like trend.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I know exactly, like literally exactly what you just said.
I think, Yes, I love a trend, but I don't
buy into every single trend. Yeah, I think for for instance,
like when animal print came back, lembit print not for you, No,
I love it great too. Now have like cow print shoes.
My bag is leftard pre like, I love it so much.
And I think it's because I've always kind of loved that,
(11:43):
Like there was a period of time when I was
younger that was sort of in as well, and I've
kind of kept all the things that I had, and
I was really sad when it went out of style. Yeah,
so I think it's more about picking a trend that
you genuinely were than not just because everyone's way.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I agree, And that's a great example. Like you've always
had an affinity for animal print, but you probably didn't
buy much up until recently because it just wasn't around.
But then when a trend comes back or is around,
you've just got more choice. Agree, Like, for example, peplums everywhere.
I don't love peplum. I did it the first time.
I'm not going back there. But if I was a
peplum lover.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Now I've got heaps to cheps wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So it's more just like you can dip in and
out when the tide comes with that trend, but don't
feel like you have to catch every wave.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yes, And I also think if you're buying it because
you really really love that trend, even when it's no
longer a trend, there's opportunities where you can kind of
style it a certain way.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I just wear it because it makes me happy.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Really agree.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
This is an interesting one because I feel like these
two trends, I mean they're not really trends, so they're
kind of movements are happening at the same time. First
we had Quiet Luxury, which is still kind of around,
and then now we're seeing maximalism.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Do you err on either side? Are you one or
the other?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And do you think they can exist in the same
wardrobe or I'm the same person?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I think personally speaking, I am like a maximalist girl,
like through and through. I love like bag charms, phone charms,
all charms. I love like I don't know if fun
prints colors and kind of matching. Yes, I'm a huge
fan of that and kind of adding a little bit
of character to an outfit. In saying that, though, I
do think they can co exist. I think, you know,
(13:17):
maybe taking some things from the quiet Luxury movement and
like getting really like higher quality foundational.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Pieces because maximalist doesn't have to mean a lot of things. No, yeah,
that's say sometimes people get confused.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, so I think they definitely can coexist. You can
kind of take little bits from each movement. But personally speaking,
I do. I do love that maximalism is kind of
having a little bit of a comeback.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
See I'm not either, I wish I was quite luxury,
but I'm just quite classic and boring. But my wardrobe
is maximalist just because I've got so much stuff, but
I don't put it on all together. Maybe that's how
I need to get more aware out of my things.
It's just do some more quirky combinations.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, have some fun with it, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So talk to me about getting dressed. Do you plan
your outfits the night before? Do you wake up and
just go with the vibes? Do you ever, like do
a Sunday night the whole week ahead? And how long
does it take you from picking the outfit to out
the door?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So, no, there's no planning involved whatsoever. I think I'm
a pretty chaotic person. So I just got to sleep,
wake up, I think. I mean it's weather dependent too.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do you check the weather?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I don't check it. I just look out the windows
kind of same.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
My husband always checks the weather.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Was mine, Oh it's going to be twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Seven today, and I'm like at seven am, I'm cold.
And then i get to three pm and I was like.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh, yeah, I'm exactly the same. So I'll just kind
of look out the window, check the vibe in the morning,
see how I'm feeling yes, in terms of throwing it together,
maybe I think picking it generally takes longest, so I'll
be like fifteen minutes maybe.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But it's the least amount of time for that, and
then I get frustrated.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Same same, and then I'll end up walking out of
the house and something that I hate. Same, I'll be
like I hate everything.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Is on the floor. And then when I get home
from work, I'm like, well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm exactly the same. But yeah, I don't leave too
much time to get ready. But I also just don't
think I'm so one who like would the night before
sit around and be like, oh, yeah, let's think about
what I'm gonna wear. Ye, yeah, it gotta be the
on the day kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Interesting I think about an item sometimes I'm like I
really want to wear those pants this week tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And then you style it on the day. Yeah, we'll
figure it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Out on Well, then you wake up and it's pouring rain,
You're like, well, I want to wear my sheep pants
all right? So, speaking of getting dressed in your wardrobe,
what's your approach there?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Are you a color? Are you a hoarder? Is it organized?
Is it messy?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
How do you store your things and do you have
any tips for wardrobe and organization.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I am like the worst person to ask for organizational tips.
Like ever, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I've met my kindred spirit. Thank god.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Everyone's sitting in that chair is so organized, and I'm
just like, why can't I beat.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It by I'm just not that I wish I was.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I'm just not.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, I think my wardrobe is very chaotic. I am
a hoarder. I just I mean, I'm a collector. Same.
I love that I'm gonna use that from now on.
I'm a collector, not a hoarder. Yes, but I find
it really hard to part with I do try to
every now and then, do it a little bit, do
some you know, to clear the space for new things. Yes,
(16:14):
but it is hard. So, I mean there's probably items
in my clothing that I've had since like early UNI high.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
School, which maybe that speaks to back to the style
thing that you're buying things in your style, so you
don't want to get rid of them because they're still useful.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, I think like even maybe i'd yes, exactly, I
think there are things that I've had for a long
time that maybe I haven't touched for a little while,
but then there will be an occasion. I know everyone's yeah,
like I'll find a time to wear it. But truly,
that feels very real for me. Where you find something, yeah,
I'll find something. I'll be like, oh, that still feels
my style. It feels like I could still pair it
with something. So I just find it hard to throw
(16:49):
things away.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I don't think you have to do it as long
as those things still bring you joy and you.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Okay, I'm glad you're.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Not organized like the rest of my will. Okay, this
is fun. Imagine you have an unlimited budget, but you
can only buy one color of clothing, use accessories for
the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
What color and why?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
This is going to be so boring and basic? But
it's got to be black.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, but you can go to Chanelle and buy all
the black Chanels.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, all the black pa exactly. You know, the world
is your oyster. When it comes to.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Black white, it would yeah, I think, oh, cream, like,
can we have can I have.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Very variations of the same color?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Okay, well you know off white maybe? I mean black
is very classic. It's a hard one, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It is hard? I think the only thing with white.
I think I spoke about this last time. I don't
have a lot of white.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I have mostly white. Yeah, I don't wear a lot
of black.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think it's my hair, especially when it's very dark
in a bob, and then when I wear a black
I feel like I look like a lego or a
floating head. Okay, but it's the unlimited budget that threw me,
because I think oftentimes what holds me back from experimenting
more with color is that I feel like you need
more combinations to put it with ye where you know.
(18:05):
That's why I try and keep things quite neutral. I
don't try, but that's generally how I get there. But
if I've got an unlimited budget, then I can buy
all the different color combos.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That's a very mean question, it is, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Okay, I'm going to take black and white off the table.
You have to choose a color, Okay, brown count.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, brown, I think brown two. Actually, if I'm not
allowed black or white.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think brown's also having quite a quite a moment.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Soft.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I just feel like it's still very neutral. But I
don't know something fun about it?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You know, I agree, and it just feels like rich. Yes,
and now we are rich, we can buy all the
extensive It's so true.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
What's the one item in your wardrobe that has the
most emotional or sentimental value?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
For me, it's jewelry in general. So with fashion, I'm
a little bit more. I don't know. I'm happy to,
you know, try a trend or try something different, Whereas
with jewelry, I'm very very intentional about what I buy.
And I think that really comes from my mom and
my grandma, and they've kind of passed down different pieces
to me, and I try to build a collection that
I wear all the time that I'm going to keep forever. Yes, pieces, Yeah,
(19:08):
it would probably be like a family piece. There's a
like a pearl necklace my grandma gave me that I
wore on my wedding day and that's just like so
so special to me. So probably like a family piece.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I had a necklace on my wedding day, but I
don't know what I've done with it. Thanks for minding me.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It wasn't obviously wasn't fancy. I think my husband like
went to Levisa the day before because someone told him
that you meant to like send something.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Oh my God, that's so cute though.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Okay, few more questions then we'll get into bougie and budget.
What's your favorite ever purchase that you've made.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I would say I think I wore this on the
pod last time. I will just leather jacket. It's kind
of a blazer style leather jacket. It's very old and
worn in black, yes.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But they wear in so well.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
But I actually got that in Japan at a vintage
store for like twenty dollars or something, and I've worn
it so much. I wear it almost every day and
it was worth all the hours I spent sifting through
those racks.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
See, I'm a huge thrifter and I've been to Japan,
but not since thrifting has blown up there.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I need like four days, two suitcases and go by myself.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You will love it. It's amazing there. Just like the kind
of variations of styles, and there's like also like higher
end obviously your designer like luxury.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, but I still like sifting through the cheap style.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh, it's amazing, And just the volume there because Australia
is getting great for thrifting, but we just don't have
the population to do the donation for the thrifting.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, those whole like areas where like that whole it's.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Like a whole street of shops for trench coasts.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I think nothing to needs to go on to it.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, last one, what do you think most people misunderstand
about style?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I think maybe just some of the rules around fashion
and style. So one of the ones I think of
is that you have to dress to flatter your body
type or what that means, like fluttering.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Which we're really saying slimming, yes, or hiding bits that
you don't like, which is very you know, a magazine
hangover and apologies they used to work at magazines. But
flattering can just I think flattering should mean what makes
you feel good? Yes, I might be an oversized T shirt.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, yeah, hundred percent. I think it's if you feel
good in it, then it works, you know, then it's stylish.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Flattering really, is you in a good mood? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Else eyes, yes, yes, yes, that's probably for me. Like
what I feel like is a little bit still outdated
when we hear.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Terms, and you know, we still use the term because
it kind of gets to the point and we know
what we mean but it feels outdated. Yeah, yeah, just
feel good fashion, flattering fashion.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, you're a wise woman. It's very expensive, how wonder.
Let's do boogie and budget.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So it's just anything we've recently purchased or on our
wish lists. Are in a new season, so you know,
there's lots of thing to choose from. Do you want
to choose your boogie your budget first?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'll go with my budget first to both the things
I've chosen are kind of the same item but different
price for love, I think is good. So my budget
is the Zara ripped wide leg midwaist jeans. Okay, And
last time I was on the pod, we spoke about
how ripped, yes distressing is back, which I love. That's
(22:21):
like a trend that I'm very much for. I've been waiting,
like eagerly waiting for it to come back. So when
I saw it on the.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
One, I know I need to get my head around it.
It is yeah, like we're not doing that massive hole
in our knee.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I mean, who knows that may like that makes up.
But also these Aura jeans are kind of like a
little like just a small step where the elevated slightly
distressed here and maybe a little bit on the knee.
They're not too crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
They're not your Grandma's not going to go let me
buy some jean.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No. So I think these are kind of a little
taster of like a little bit of distressing that still
feels quite tasteful.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Cool. I love that. How much are they?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
They are sixty nine ninety five, so not too bad.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And if you don't want to buy brand new, go
thrifted because that's where all the old distressed ones are
have been donated, or just buy someone just yes.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I was gonna say, if you have old gins that
you never wear anymore, it's a nice trud just like
make some decisions for them a little bit. There's like
a million tatorials on you.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, my budget is also a pair of pants, so
they're a pair of Unigo pants, and I have last
year's version. They're doing an almost identical version this year,
but they're not launched until mid October. So what I
love about the Unuklear website is there's a coming soon.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Tab I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, it makes me excited because it also makes me
less impulsive because I go there and think, oh I
can't get them and then I think about them. But
I have these pants in kind of like a light
khaki olive, and I have worn them to death. And
that is not to say they're not good quality. I
just love them, and I get so many comments on them.
So this season's version is called the Linen Blend Barrel
leg Pants fifty nine ninety. When I say linen blend,
(23:55):
it's not that sort of Byron bay Lineny Lineny beach linen.
It's very kind of urban linen. You can wear them
in the city, you could wear them out to drinks.
They're so comfy, they're so good. Fifty nine fifty Oh good.
I love a barrel, yes, and it's also it's not
an extreme barrel, it's quite it's, you know, a cool
but tapered, wearable barrel. I'm literally gonna get a recolor
(24:17):
this season because I wish I did last year. They're
so can't fee they're breathable. Wow, I should be an ambassador.
What's your bougie So you've got a bougie version.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yes, So my bougie version is the SUBI Super Serge
Trashed again distress. These are a little bit more distressed,
maybe a bit too much for your taste for your taste.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You watch in three weeks, I'll be coming.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I love these, though there's a little bit more distressing
on the front, and I feel like, I don't know,
I just I think it's a part of me that
used to wear distress jeans. I still have all my
distress jeans. Like when people stopped wearing them, I was
really sad about it, and so I feel like I
still got that. Yeah, and I can pull them out
now and it's trendy again.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna work on that. Although why
in my mid forties do I.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Feel like I have to?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But I agree they can look very cool, like even
if you do a distress jean, but an oversized fitted
kind of blazer, like you don't have to look like
you're going to this game.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, I think you know.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's the same way I feel about. You know, we
talked about peplam before, how I hate that when it
was around back in the twenty tens and the way
it was styled. But I do think there's some really
chic and unique ways to style it now that we
weren't doing.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I agree, and it would agreed. So if there's a
trend that's coming back. Forget how you wore it and
look at it with fresh eyes before you write it off.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Agree, Okay, Well my bougie is inspired by I just
got back. Actually you filled in for me, Thank you.
I was in Canada for a workstrip. I was in Toronto,
which I'm moving to you. By the way, this is
my resignation only joking. I've been to Toronto a couple
of times, but it's just above New York City. It's
New York City without the madness of you know that
country at the moment. And also the dollars pretty much
(25:49):
on par and they were all going into autumn winter.
And what I love to see was because we're seeing
so much summer or spring summer suede here, they're all
all the chocolate and tan. Swedes are still everywhere in Zara,
in h and m in Mango, and they get cold, cold,
cold there. So if you are thinking about investing in
a Swede anything, do it now. Wear it through summer
(26:11):
obviously differently, not to like the beach, but we're seeing
a lot of swayed for the first time in a
hot season.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
But you're going to invest.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So I saw some really cool women walking around and
it was quite warm for the time of year, so
they were in their Swede loafers but with shorts and
a blazer or swayed loafers with a cool flowy maxi,
which we can do now and then you can wear
them with EU jeans and stuff later. So I've got
a very affordable pair from one hundred years ago that
I wore on that trip, but it made me realize
(26:40):
actually they fell apart on.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
The trip pretty much. I mean there's some slippery stairs.
This all fell off.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Anyway, I want a new pair of beautiful kind of
swayed I'm calling it a loafer, but they're not really
like a business loafer. It's kind of a moccasin hybrid.
My dream pair are the Todds driving shoes in Swaye
and how much of those they are one thousand, two
hundred and thirty dollars. I always love them, but I'm
(27:08):
still not going to buy them because they've got that
like classic Todd's tread that's like like a dry They
call it a driving shoe, so I know the base
is durable, yep.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But I ain't got a thousand dollars to spend on
sweet shoes.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Dollars are steep.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
It's crazy, and I'm tough on my shoes. I do
have some fancy pairs, but I often get them on
deep hop.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I'm not spending that much money on new shoes, so
in reality, I think I'm going to get the scent
so astro too. They are very similar, you know, like
I said, loafery but not business loaf, like casual loaf,
a bit of a moccasin two hundred and forty nine okay,
And there's a bunch of different colour swedes. I'm going
to get the kind of darker tan erring on the
side of brown, but.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Not chocolate brown. Yeah, yeah, yah, yeah, I just want
to wear them forever. I'm so excited. A loafer is
just I love a loafer.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And I think, you know, we all go oh summer
blah blah blah, but I still come to the office
and I've done you know.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, Sometimes you want to close to a shoe.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, agreed. Sometimes you don't want to wear sandals into this.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Sometimes you don't have a petty Sometimes the ac.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is blasting and you just need a kadi and a
pair of losses.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I have a Chelsea, thank you. So much. I love
getting to know you better.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
We're going to have you back on quite frequently, I think,
and thank you for filling in for me when I
went away.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Thank you, see you soon.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget
to sign up to the Nothing to Wear newsletter. There's
a link in the show notes, and also don't forget.
You can watch us on YouTube and follow us on
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Speaker 1 (28:28):
We'll be back soon. Bye.
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