July 9, 2025 • 25 mins
In this fashion drop, Leigh Campbell quizzes Mamamia's head of content (and secret style genius) Eliza on how she nails that "did-she-just-step-off-a-Copenhagen-runway?" look. This former Vogue Scandinavia editor treats her morning wardrobe session like meditation to avoid all the chaos.
Her style secrets? Scandinavian-inspired layering, tailoring of budget finds, and those game-changing bodysuits that work with everything from weekend shorts to boardroom suits. Forget trend-chasing as we find the perfect balance between high-end items and your go to Uniqlo or Kmart shirt.
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EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Eliza's Budget: Kmart Long Sleeve Oxford Shirt in White
Leigh's Budget: Billini Hazel Handle Bag
Eliza's Boujee: Nagnata’s RYDELL SHORT 3.0 in Honeydew, Carla Denim Jean
Leigh's Boujee: Motto Navy Faux Leather Pocket Pant Motto
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Host: Leigh Campbell
Guest: Eliza Sorman Nilsson
Producer: Mollie Harwood
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and Waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hey you biz Lee here. Now,
I know you love Spendy Savie. It's the most popular segment.
But did you know over on Nothing to Wear, we
have the version.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
For your clothes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's called Bougie and Budget and it's my favorite part
of the Nothing to Wear podcasts. So have a listened
to this episode and let me know what you think
of my Bougie and Budget.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disserved
laurels spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to do it.
You live for fashion.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Levels up your wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm Lee Campbell, and every week I talk to an
expert who helps us work out how to get more
out of the clothes we already own and tells us
exactly what is and what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today,
I'm joined by someone who's usually behind the scenes, but
I've admired her career and style four years. Her name
is Eliza Sorman Nilsen. She's kind of my boss. She's
(01:20):
currently the head of content here at Mamma Mia, but
her fashion credentials stretch far beyond our office walls.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
With over fifteen.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Years in the industry, Eliza's CV is pretty impressive. She's
worked at influential style publications both here in Australia and Scandinavia.
She was the digital editor at Vogue Scandinavia you Know
No Biggie, and before that she was at Australia's Shop
You Drop magazine, which I also worked at Cleo and
Madison Magazine. Now, the reason I'm excited and I forced
(01:50):
her onto the podcast is is because I think she
is the definition of personal style. She always looks great,
She looks like she's thrown it together and you wouldn't
think it works. She's not a huge trend follower from
what I can see, but she always looks very stylish
and to me, that's personal style. So I'm going to
pick her brain all about her un global perspective on
(02:11):
everything from micro trends to sustainable fashion and where she
thinks the fashion media landscape is going next.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Eliza, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me.
You're kind of my boss. Yeah, and you're very behind
the scenes, yes, which is where I normally like to be.
But you're very fashionable and styla shit.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We'll get into in a moment, but before we do,
I always ask first time guests the same two questions. So, firstly,
can you describe your style in three words?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And what are they? I actually hate this question. It's
because you just sound very up yourself. But I think
I would say maybe like non ego as one word,
playing that please in that I don't really care that
much about brands. I just like a look, and I'm
(02:57):
happy to play with high end loss.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's why you're on the topic that we're about to
talk about, because that's exactly what you do.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, what else? I think I would also say classic.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Hmm, but not Chanelle Ballet flat classic, You're more like
with a bit of a twist. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And then my third word would be potentially daring love it,
which feels a bit, but thatsition married the classic and
the daring opposites attract and that's how you get your
unique style. Yeah, that's nice, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Most people wear a small portion of their wardrobe a lot,
so ten percent of their wardrobe ninety percent of the
time is their rough staff. So what's in your ten
percent that you reach four more than the other stuff?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, So I think this is really interesting because I
actually do think I probably wear about thirty percent of
my wardrobe. You wear a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, not that I've been to your wardrobe, but I
feel like you don't just wear things once, but I
see you mixing and matching items in different ways, So
I think you must wear more than ten percent.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah. I think it's also because our workplace, you can
really express yourself here, and I will have lots of
client meetings. So don't really ever want to wear the
same thing all the time as in the whole same
outfit exactly exactly. So I would say, if it's weekend,
oversized tea with little kind of rugby or boxer shorts
(04:12):
with socks and like sambos samos kind of socks, like
slightly long. Okay, you're cool, you can see them. Always
have a chunky gold necklace, Always have chunky gold hoops.
Always wear body suits like me. I'm not Beyonce like
march around in Aliatard, but I love a body suit,
(04:35):
like as a foundation. Like I'm wearing one right now.
What I love about a bodysuit. I think everyone should
own them. I find them very comfortable to wear, but
they just give you such a good line. I think
it elevates looks and then you don't have to really
worry about the tucking in because it's tucked in under
your beer and it's tucked in nicely. Yes, so I
often wear body suits. I'll have quite a few. So
(04:56):
then you can wear them with jeans, you can wear
them with like I'm wearing a suit today. I honestly
believe they really elevate you look. Skims are great because
they're just also fit your body. They're so comfortable, and
k might also have a really good range of blos.
They're still them with David Jones if you want to
go try it. Yeah, So anyway, I love skims. What
is suits? But also like I will wear suits and
(05:17):
lots of jeans and lots of blazers.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, the reason you're here is kind of to talk
about how you do mix it up. So you've had
many past lives career wise, they're all kind of related
in a way. Editor at Vogue Scandinavia, no big deal.
Before that, you're in magazines like Madison and shopped you Drop.
We were both at Shop to you Drop their different times,
work in the same building. And now you're head of
content and Mamma Mia like massive. So with all of that,
(05:42):
you obviously have a passion which is women and telling
stories and what content they want to know about.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Why does that interest you? And as it always interests you. Yeah,
I think I always loved telling stories, Like I would
sit down my sisters and my brothers and I would
tell them stories. I'd also style them, like from a
very young age, it was always about storytelling and dress
and dress ups. But I think I started off as
a sub editor at Madison Magazine. So my first job
(06:09):
job was writing the copy for all the fashion pages.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So that you explain what a sub editor does for
those that don't know, because now I know.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So the sub editor used to well they still do.
They still exist. But a sub editor would read all
of the stories, make sure the grammar was all correct,
make sure it was written well, would edit copy.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And have to take out like if there's a word out,
it's too big and it's got to fit on a page.
I used to fight with my subs all the time,
and they're like, you're waffling on this is.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That red pen. I was the red pen, and we'd
come up with headlines, we come up with captions. But
what I loved about the job was I would work
really closely with the fashion team and a lot of
the stylists. They're not necessarily trained writers, so I get
to write all their pages, so I would get to
write about trends. I worked with some of the best
fashion stylists in Australia and so I would sit with them.
(07:02):
They would say, this is what's happening on the runway.
This is a trend. Now you go write about it
to like fill the beautiful pages. So that's where I
started really learning about fashion because I would sit with
those really good editors and they would then teach me
how to shop, how to shop the runways, what trends
to buy, what trends are not to buy, you know,
ones that would stay around, and so I just I
(07:24):
loved that. But I also just love that women are
so multifaceted, Like fashion is also such an important part
of culture. It's such an important part of history, and
what you wear really really can like send messages like
I feel at Taylor Swift, there's easter eggs in her clothes.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You look at like Malania Trump, what she wears, like
literally what she says on her jacket exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So I think that tie with fashion and culture has
always really interested me and it's really powerful.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It is, and I think we don't judge a book
by its cover, but what you wear does present you
to the world in a certain way. And that's not
about spending a lot of money or you know, having
to have a particular style. I love that everyone's unique,
and that's why I wanted to have you here because
I think, whether you meant it or not, you've really
nailed personal style. When I think of you, you have
a personal style that it's not like anyone else I know,
(08:14):
but not in a weird, wacky art teacher way or
like you could be like you know, you had just
have the most unique personal style in your career that
we just discussed. You've witnessed the evolution of fashion and
content from print we were both at magazines, to digital yeah,
and then social media.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Wow. We've been through a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So how has this transformation changed what women wear?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Do you think and what you wear personally? I do
really think you've seen through the years fashion's gone from
really aspirational too about personal style. I think, you know,
back in the day you just did have the magazines,
but the Internet and especially TikTok, and I think YouTube
as well now and Instagram and Instagram of course, but
(08:57):
I'm thinking more video, like you know, the led platforms.
Anyone can be a fashion editor. Now anyone can put
out their own style. And it's also what I think
has happened is now you can see people styling brands
that you don't necessarily associate with fashion, you know, the
high street, but even just like more budget brands, and
(09:18):
you can see people doing amazing things. So it's become
a lot more accessible. I think fashion has become a
lot more accessible. It's kind of lost that polish and
it's more about the individual rather than this is the trend,
we all must follow that now.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, it's so true, and I think also, yeah, I
mean social media is a double edged sword in terms
of sort of consumerism and thinking everyone's got heaps of
stuff and you don't. But what I love about it
is you can discover new brands or underground brands or
small brands, or you can get ideas of how to
put things together. And that's how you wear more of
your wardrobe than the ten percent, which I feel like
you absolutely nail. Where does your style inspo come from.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I'm on the internet a lot. It's where I work,
but also really inspired by the people around me as well.
I love people watching. I loved street style, like street
style back in the day when it first started, like
the cterialists, Oh my god, remember that. Yeah, like style.
I loved street style life. That was my thing. I
just could scroll for hours. I also get really inspired
(10:16):
by newsletters. I sign up to a lot of brand's newsletters.
That's interesting. If there's a brand I like, I will
sign up to the newsletters straight away. And I just
love going through my inbox I've had. It's so relaxing
and you're just like, that's the new outfit. Okay, so
that's kind of the look that they're going for this season.
Oh it's a little bit more laid back and effortless,
(10:36):
and so you kind of know what everyone's doing that season,
and then you can kind of start seeing it in
street style and understand the pieces and you can see also,
like you know, a trend if one brand's doing this skirt,
oh that skirts in every brand. Okay, so that's the
skirt of the season. You kind of follow the story. Yeah,
and I love the newsletter because it just comes to me.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I save my adms my newsletters for Sunday mornings, so
you know, back in the day, I used to go
get the Sunday paper or read it a cafe, And
now I read my favorite newsletters in my inbox on
a Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
It's so relaxing and fun. Interestingly, this career and over
your life, you've lived in Sweden. Yeah, and then you
kind of recently came back to Australia what two years
ago now, yeah, nearly two years. Two years. So what
did you take from Scandinavian style because I feel like
I don't know. Well, you tell me how does it
differ or how is it similar to Australian women and
their style. Well, so Scandinavians are a lot more dressed
(11:28):
up then, yeah, I think Australians are a lot more
easy going and laid back. It's more active wear in Australia, yes,
And in Sweden I would wear my tights and get looks.
So many other cultures do not wear active wear unless
you're going to the gym, unless you're going to the gym,
and even then you're wearing your jeans and you're changing
(11:50):
at the gym and you're changing back into your jeans.
I was very like too Inarest when I would wear
my active wear and then my friends would come and
visit and I'm like, do you not wear your active
where you're embarrassing? But it was like clean lines, tailoring.
They mastered that art of that oversize just that like
hair oversized everything, so the shirts, the tailoring, and I
(12:12):
think when you look at I know you talk about
like Copenhagen style a lot like the street style, and
what comes out of the fashion weeks is really colorful,
but the everyday person it is more your blacks and
your mutuols, a bit more toned down, a bit more
toned down. They are so good at layering. So he's
at the weather because yeah, exactly because of the weather.
(12:32):
But like wearing a trench coat, it's so considered, like
in Australia, there's actually no need to wear a trench no. Yeah,
but all you've got under it is a tea. But
the public they've got they've got a great nit, but
they know how to use the right fibers. To layer
so that you're not bulky. What they wear, it's so
intentional and effortless. That's a lot lots of tailoring. And
(12:55):
I feel like you brought that home with you because
you do that very well. Yeah, I love like. I
definitely would never have worn a suit before I went
to Sweden, and now I like, Oh, I love a suit.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm sure you've gathered some information and favorites from over there,
So can you tell us a bit about your favorite
scandy brands or designers.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yep, so obviously love Acne. I thought Acne was American. No, yeah,
they're Swedish, very very Swedish. So Acne is your genes
that really cool street vibes. But one of the creators
of Acne has also started Eighties, which is great. Look
it up. It's e yt Ys. Please hold I google
everything in these shows. Yes, yt Ys really cool. The
(13:44):
website is actually down at the moment, which is sad,
but you can see their stuff on you and you
can get it on far fettion ss sense I don't
even know. Yeah, they do really cool jeans, really cool boots,
really cool. I love Rugby Jersey. I was wearing one yesterday.
They did cool rugby jerseys, cool bomber jackets, like just
that street style iconic. Oh is it amazing? I didn't
(14:06):
even know that. Love Stand Studios. Love is stan Stand
Studio and Studio s T A. N D and Studios.
They do leather, really really good leather, so like great
leather skirts, great leather jackets. So it's an investment price point. Yeah,
investment price point. Incredible out of web. So I have
some really good fake for coats, but it's so funny.
(14:29):
I wear them to the office and everyone's like, oh,
there's Miranda Priestley. Yeah, and you're like, excuse me, I've
got individual style. I'm from Scandinavia. Yeah, so really incredible.
Obviously a Nina being obviously Ganny. It's so fun Ganny
is also really good to buy secondhand because it lasts.
Look up Jade Cropper. That's the brand that all the
(14:51):
cool girls are wearing. Celebrities, Yeah, like Flight, the Kardashians.
It's also all that kind of draping high high here,
the rounded shoulders, the asymmetrical bunching.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean like it's yes, look a middriff is four
hundred and sixty nine dollars, but it's good too, yes,
se Yeah, and sign up to the adms and the
newsletters or just have a look. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I think it's just also seeing the different styles because
then you go and you see, oh, what's a dupe version?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And some of these brands you can get here. I
mean obviously with the internet mostly can get everything. Yeah.
I want to talk about not just those brands, but
sort of globally and in Australia. Fashion trends Yep, you've
talked about how you kind of research them.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
What are your thoughts on them.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
As a topic. Do you find they're moving too fast?
Do you find we're calling everything a trend when it's
a color?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, I think it's moving pretty fast. It is really
hard to keep up, and I just think sometimes it's
just not worth keeping up. But I also think we
label things that's just an item as a trend.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's great that there's a name, but it kind of
makes it feel like then it goes in and out
when really it's just a lovely red item that didn't
need that lad.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, that's new and fresh or a different take on something. Yes,
So that's why I love knowing what everyone's wearing right now.
But I will have fully tap out. So you work
in the internet, as I say, yeah, and you're almost
always in the office when I get here.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You basically live here. So do you mostly shop online?
Do you shop iral in real life and either or
what are your go to sites or stores? I definitely
always shop online. I'll have my brands that I love
from newsletters. I love a big scroll on Dish. I
just I love seeing what Dish is doing. Love the iconic.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
The Iconic's great for when you have that specific piece
and you want to know different price points, so you
use the filters to be like black black jeans size. Also,
I just think the algorithm on the Iconic's grade in
the sense that you find one piece and then you
can see all the different versions of it in different prices.
I always love to invest in swimwear because I just
(16:57):
feel like you, I show you you're often wearing it,
and I love a bodysuit, so I can then use it.
So like BONDI, I love their suit. It's like hons
of g am I saying it probably and then Epemera
so like they're my threes e Feme, you've had to
call on the show. Yeah, I love a one piece,
so I always invest there, but also I do that
online because it's like I know, I know the brands
(17:19):
love going to Venice. I love it. Yeah, I love it.
I think you've said it before in the podcast. I
find it relaxing. I find it like real. Yes, it's
such a challenge, it's so enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's generally more affordable, and also then you're saving something
from land film exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I also look out for warehouse sales. If you want
to build out a classic like quality quality wardrobe, look
out for the warehouse sales. They're actually really worth it.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
And thankfully a lot of brands now because you know
people are rural or not always in Sydney or Melbourne,
are doing them online.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Archive sales online. You really know what. I don't want
to have to go on line up or I can't,
or it's in Melbourne. Pop it online, we will buy it.
One thing that I really do with clothes is I
don't actually look that much at sizes. I actually I
got a lot of my clothes altered. Do you Yes, No,
it's not so, I think it's not. It depends on
(18:17):
if there's something you really like, it's good quality, you know,
if it fits better you're going to wear it more,
so that ten dollars or that twenty dollars is actually
worth it. So that's why I can shop online because
I often will go, Okay, I'm going to get a
bigger size, and I will get it to tailored. You're
quite tall. Do you have problems with pants? Yeah? Definitely,
(18:41):
pants online is hard.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I agree tailoring's worth it, particularly, like you say, if
you go to a warehouse sale, it's a good quality
brand and you know, maybe you've got it seventy percent off. Yes,
you might have to pay a little bit to get
it tweaked, but then it's fits you perfectly and you'll
have it forever.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
One really good example of this is I bought in
a Marks and Spencer sale this beautiful tweed black dress
that it looks like it's a Chanel dress. I didn't
even look at this size. I got it. I got
it perfectly tailored for me. Now it does look.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Like shite, yes, and it probably fits you better than
the way it would have fit if you brought it
in your size, because you've had it made like perfectly
to you. Also, I think on that point as well,
just generally forget the tailoring part. But just I mean,
you've got to look at the size. But if you're
shopping in real life, I always will take in three
different sizes. Yeah, I might want it oversized some brands.
I know my size, but then if it's mid rise
(19:31):
or high rise. You know, you just if you look
at something and go, oh, that's not my size, just
think of it as a garment, an item, take a
few to try on. Or if there's a good returns
policy online, yeah, I always know the returns policy, always
know the returns policy. But just yeah, don't let that
dictate or make you feel bad.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know, I like literally have fifteen different types of
sizes in my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Oh yeah, and all brands are so different.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So it's getting chilly now, and you lived somewhere that
got quite chili yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Minus twenty three degrees chili.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yes, very cold, So talk to me about winter dressing,
what you learn from over there or your vibes for now.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, it's definitely looking at the fabrics. It's getting those
natural fibers so that then they're thinner not bulky, so
that you can layer. But my trick is to stick
to the like one silhouette rule. So like either an
oversized top with a thin slimmer bottle slimmer bottoms or
the reverse, because otherwise it can just get quite chunky.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Because I'm not used to going to cold cold. If
I ever travel to cold cold, I look like that
marshmallow and blow up man because I'm just like, must
stay warm.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, okay, so proportions. Proportions is definitely one thing, and
I just also think everyone should invest in a knitted
sleeveless vest. Oh what do you mean? You know those
like waistcoat style. I don't have one. I'm going to
show you can we do some good wine because they
are perfect to put over a shirt, or you can
(20:58):
just wear it by itself and it's still warm because
it's that knitted thought of item. Okay, yeah, so I
think about layering smart not bulky, and really look at
the fabric. It's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
How wud are these.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
All? Right?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
My friends on tabouji and budget okay, hibougie, I think
I'm actually going to go with Nagnates Rydell short.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I know that we're going into winter and they'll be
extremely not appropriate. It's not really inappropriate, but I love
a good little mini short. Okay for the gym. Know
they're made of wool. Yeah, have you seen Nagnata?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I've got a pair of They're active wear shorts, which
I love. Yeah, when I'm active and when it's summer,
which hasn't been ether recently.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It's more lounge wary. Looks really really good with a shirt,
so I would team it with a shirt, a gold chain,
or it looks really good with an oversized tea and
then your socks in your sneakers, so it'd be part
of my weekend. How much two sixty for a pair
for a pair of woolen undies for a pair of
woolen undies. But you said I was allowed to do boogie.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You are an Aussie brand, good quality, natural fibers approved approved. Okay,
so my bougie isn't that bougie? They are a pair
of pants from an Aussie label called Moto Fashion.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I love these.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Okay, Well, I'm gonna have to recommend the Navy because
at the time of recording, the burgundy is sold out.
They're called the Navy Faux Leather pocket Pants. I have
the wine color.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yes, and I've seen you wear them and they are incredible.
I love them.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
They're very comfortable, high waisted fly button pockets at the front,
but not that you put anything in them straight to whitish. Yeah,
I'm not doing the tight leather or faux leather at
the moment, not that there's anything wrong with that, but
they just are so comfortable. They're not cropped on me.
They might be too short on you, they might be
a bit.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I am a bit worried about that for me, but
they look so good on honestly. I mean they're one
fifty nine ninety five, so not crazy, but you can
get cheaper. But they're an assie.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
The Navy's beautiful, like imagine the Navy with the gray mark.
But I just love the Burgundy. And they have a
really good size range of eight to twenty.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, that's incredible. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So check them out online and see if they do
restock the burgundy. I have message to them, so fingers crossed.
All right, budget, my friend.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So for my budget, I'm going with a kmart piece.
Oh yeah, it is their long sleeve Oxford shirt. It
is incredible. It comes in a few different colors. How
many people do you think in the office has that.
I think it's mandatory, But the quality of It is
so good. It comes in a pink, it comes in
a white.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I wore that and someone said to me, it's that
Luova and I was like, oh no, but it's very
similar alone.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Twenty five thirty five I think it's twenty five, Yeah,
twenty five dollars. It would be go perfectly over the
Nagnita shorts, the wool aunties. Yeah, perfect over wool ants.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And even though it's sound of kind of a medium
weight and got that kind of Oxford.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Shirt vibe, you could wear that over swimmers in summer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, shorts, leather pants. I'm obsessed. I love how I'm
selling you on your own yep. My budget is a
bag from Bellini called the Hazel Handle Bag. Full price
at seventy nine ninety five. At the time of recording,
it's forty seven bucks. Wow, that worst casey spending eighty dollars.
So it's a Mulberry kind of ready BURGUNDYEP patent.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh that's incredible. Now can I tell you why I
brought that?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Because you have unique, cool bags that I always ask
you about, and this felt very Eliza.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, I have a Ganny bag that looks very similar.
Okay that Yeah, we had Osmosis. It's just like shiny Patent,
which I find where it's quite well. If it's an
affordable brand, sometimes better than those cheap fake leathers. Bucket bag,
cool buckle like that looks designer. I love the gold
accent and I love how it's cinched in and it's
(24:49):
got little gold feet.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, with gold feats, maybe that will become the k
maut shirt bag of the office. Yeah, Eliza, I love you.
Thanks for being the best boss. Thanks for always inspiring
me with your style. And I hope you come back
and join us against him.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Oh, thank you. This was so fun. Thank you Lee.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. And if
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Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's free. See you next week.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
This episode was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production
by Lew Hill.
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and Waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hey you biz Lee here. Now,
I know you love Spendy Savie. It's the most popular segment.
But did you know over on Nothing to Wear, we
have the version.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
For your clothes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's called Bougie and Budget and it's my favorite part
of the Nothing to Wear podcasts. So have a listened
to this episode and let me know what you think
of my Bougie and Budget.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disserved
laurels spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to do it.
You live for fashion.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Levels up your wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm Lee Campbell, and every week I talk to an
expert who helps us work out how to get more
out of the clothes we already own and tells us
exactly what is and what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today,
I'm joined by someone who's usually behind the scenes, but
I've admired her career and style four years. Her name
is Eliza Sorman Nilsen. She's kind of my boss. She's
(01:20):
currently the head of content here at Mamma Mia, but
her fashion credentials stretch far beyond our office walls.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
With over fifteen.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Years in the industry, Eliza's CV is pretty impressive. She's
worked at influential style publications both here in Australia and Scandinavia.
She was the digital editor at Vogue Scandinavia you Know
No Biggie, and before that she was at Australia's Shop
You Drop magazine, which I also worked at Cleo and
Madison Magazine. Now, the reason I'm excited and I forced
(01:50):
her onto the podcast is is because I think she
is the definition of personal style. She always looks great,
She looks like she's thrown it together and you wouldn't
think it works. She's not a huge trend follower from
what I can see, but she always looks very stylish
and to me, that's personal style. So I'm going to
pick her brain all about her un global perspective on
(02:11):
everything from micro trends to sustainable fashion and where she
thinks the fashion media landscape is going next.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Eliza, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me.
You're kind of my boss. Yeah, and you're very behind
the scenes, yes, which is where I normally like to be.
But you're very fashionable and styla shit.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We'll get into in a moment, but before we do,
I always ask first time guests the same two questions. So, firstly,
can you describe your style in three words?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And what are they? I actually hate this question. It's
because you just sound very up yourself. But I think
I would say maybe like non ego as one word,
playing that please in that I don't really care that
much about brands. I just like a look, and I'm
(02:57):
happy to play with high end loss.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's why you're on the topic that we're about to
talk about, because that's exactly what you do.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, what else? I think I would also say classic.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Hmm, but not Chanelle Ballet flat classic, You're more like
with a bit of a twist. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And then my third word would be potentially daring love it,
which feels a bit, but thatsition married the classic and
the daring opposites attract and that's how you get your
unique style. Yeah, that's nice, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Most people wear a small portion of their wardrobe a lot,
so ten percent of their wardrobe ninety percent of the
time is their rough staff. So what's in your ten
percent that you reach four more than the other stuff?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, So I think this is really interesting because I
actually do think I probably wear about thirty percent of
my wardrobe. You wear a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, not that I've been to your wardrobe, but I
feel like you don't just wear things once, but I
see you mixing and matching items in different ways, So
I think you must wear more than ten percent.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah. I think it's also because our workplace, you can
really express yourself here, and I will have lots of
client meetings. So don't really ever want to wear the
same thing all the time as in the whole same
outfit exactly exactly. So I would say, if it's weekend,
oversized tea with little kind of rugby or boxer shorts
(04:12):
with socks and like sambos samos kind of socks, like
slightly long. Okay, you're cool, you can see them. Always
have a chunky gold necklace, Always have chunky gold hoops.
Always wear body suits like me. I'm not Beyonce like
march around in Aliatard, but I love a body suit,
(04:35):
like as a foundation. Like I'm wearing one right now.
What I love about a bodysuit. I think everyone should
own them. I find them very comfortable to wear, but
they just give you such a good line. I think
it elevates looks and then you don't have to really
worry about the tucking in because it's tucked in under
your beer and it's tucked in nicely. Yes, so I
often wear body suits. I'll have quite a few. So
(04:56):
then you can wear them with jeans, you can wear
them with like I'm wearing a suit today. I honestly
believe they really elevate you look. Skims are great because
they're just also fit your body. They're so comfortable, and
k might also have a really good range of blos.
They're still them with David Jones if you want to
go try it. Yeah, So anyway, I love skims. What
is suits? But also like I will wear suits and
(05:17):
lots of jeans and lots of blazers.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, the reason you're here is kind of to talk
about how you do mix it up. So you've had
many past lives career wise, they're all kind of related
in a way. Editor at Vogue Scandinavia, no big deal.
Before that, you're in magazines like Madison and shopped you Drop.
We were both at Shop to you Drop their different times,
work in the same building. And now you're head of
content and Mamma Mia like massive. So with all of that,
(05:42):
you obviously have a passion which is women and telling
stories and what content they want to know about.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Why does that interest you? And as it always interests you. Yeah,
I think I always loved telling stories, Like I would
sit down my sisters and my brothers and I would
tell them stories. I'd also style them, like from a
very young age, it was always about storytelling and dress
and dress ups. But I think I started off as
a sub editor at Madison Magazine. So my first job
(06:09):
job was writing the copy for all the fashion pages.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So that you explain what a sub editor does for
those that don't know, because now I know.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So the sub editor used to well they still do.
They still exist. But a sub editor would read all
of the stories, make sure the grammar was all correct,
make sure it was written well, would edit copy.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And have to take out like if there's a word out,
it's too big and it's got to fit on a page.
I used to fight with my subs all the time,
and they're like, you're waffling on this is.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That red pen. I was the red pen, and we'd
come up with headlines, we come up with captions. But
what I loved about the job was I would work
really closely with the fashion team and a lot of
the stylists. They're not necessarily trained writers, so I get
to write all their pages, so I would get to
write about trends. I worked with some of the best
fashion stylists in Australia and so I would sit with them.
(07:02):
They would say, this is what's happening on the runway.
This is a trend. Now you go write about it
to like fill the beautiful pages. So that's where I
started really learning about fashion because I would sit with
those really good editors and they would then teach me
how to shop, how to shop the runways, what trends
to buy, what trends are not to buy, you know,
ones that would stay around, and so I just I
(07:24):
loved that. But I also just love that women are
so multifaceted, Like fashion is also such an important part
of culture. It's such an important part of history, and
what you wear really really can like send messages like
I feel at Taylor Swift, there's easter eggs in her clothes.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You look at like Malania Trump, what she wears, like
literally what she says on her jacket exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So I think that tie with fashion and culture has
always really interested me and it's really powerful.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It is, and I think we don't judge a book
by its cover, but what you wear does present you
to the world in a certain way. And that's not
about spending a lot of money or you know, having
to have a particular style. I love that everyone's unique,
and that's why I wanted to have you here because
I think, whether you meant it or not, you've really
nailed personal style. When I think of you, you have
a personal style that it's not like anyone else I know,
(08:14):
but not in a weird, wacky art teacher way or
like you could be like you know, you had just
have the most unique personal style in your career that
we just discussed. You've witnessed the evolution of fashion and
content from print we were both at magazines, to digital yeah,
and then social media.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Wow. We've been through a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So how has this transformation changed what women wear?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Do you think and what you wear personally? I do
really think you've seen through the years fashion's gone from
really aspirational too about personal style. I think, you know,
back in the day you just did have the magazines,
but the Internet and especially TikTok, and I think YouTube
as well now and Instagram and Instagram of course, but
(08:57):
I'm thinking more video, like you know, the led platforms.
Anyone can be a fashion editor. Now anyone can put
out their own style. And it's also what I think
has happened is now you can see people styling brands
that you don't necessarily associate with fashion, you know, the
high street, but even just like more budget brands, and
(09:18):
you can see people doing amazing things. So it's become
a lot more accessible. I think fashion has become a
lot more accessible. It's kind of lost that polish and
it's more about the individual rather than this is the trend,
we all must follow that now.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, it's so true, and I think also, yeah, I
mean social media is a double edged sword in terms
of sort of consumerism and thinking everyone's got heaps of
stuff and you don't. But what I love about it
is you can discover new brands or underground brands or
small brands, or you can get ideas of how to
put things together. And that's how you wear more of
your wardrobe than the ten percent, which I feel like
you absolutely nail. Where does your style inspo come from.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I'm on the internet a lot. It's where I work,
but also really inspired by the people around me as well.
I love people watching. I loved street style, like street
style back in the day when it first started, like
the cterialists, Oh my god, remember that. Yeah, like style.
I loved street style life. That was my thing. I
just could scroll for hours. I also get really inspired
(10:16):
by newsletters. I sign up to a lot of brand's newsletters.
That's interesting. If there's a brand I like, I will
sign up to the newsletters straight away. And I just
love going through my inbox I've had. It's so relaxing
and you're just like, that's the new outfit. Okay, so
that's kind of the look that they're going for this season.
Oh it's a little bit more laid back and effortless,
(10:36):
and so you kind of know what everyone's doing that season,
and then you can kind of start seeing it in
street style and understand the pieces and you can see also,
like you know, a trend if one brand's doing this skirt,
oh that skirts in every brand. Okay, so that's the
skirt of the season. You kind of follow the story. Yeah,
and I love the newsletter because it just comes to me.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I save my adms my newsletters for Sunday mornings, so
you know, back in the day, I used to go
get the Sunday paper or read it a cafe, And
now I read my favorite newsletters in my inbox on
a Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
It's so relaxing and fun. Interestingly, this career and over
your life, you've lived in Sweden. Yeah, and then you
kind of recently came back to Australia what two years
ago now, yeah, nearly two years. Two years. So what
did you take from Scandinavian style because I feel like
I don't know. Well, you tell me how does it
differ or how is it similar to Australian women and
their style. Well, so Scandinavians are a lot more dressed
(11:28):
up then, yeah, I think Australians are a lot more
easy going and laid back. It's more active wear in Australia, yes,
And in Sweden I would wear my tights and get looks.
So many other cultures do not wear active wear unless
you're going to the gym, unless you're going to the gym,
and even then you're wearing your jeans and you're changing
(11:50):
at the gym and you're changing back into your jeans.
I was very like too Inarest when I would wear
my active wear and then my friends would come and
visit and I'm like, do you not wear your active
where you're embarrassing? But it was like clean lines, tailoring.
They mastered that art of that oversize just that like
hair oversized everything, so the shirts, the tailoring, and I
(12:12):
think when you look at I know you talk about
like Copenhagen style a lot like the street style, and
what comes out of the fashion weeks is really colorful,
but the everyday person it is more your blacks and
your mutuols, a bit more toned down, a bit more
toned down. They are so good at layering. So he's
at the weather because yeah, exactly because of the weather.
(12:32):
But like wearing a trench coat, it's so considered, like
in Australia, there's actually no need to wear a trench no. Yeah,
but all you've got under it is a tea. But
the public they've got they've got a great nit, but
they know how to use the right fibers. To layer
so that you're not bulky. What they wear, it's so
intentional and effortless. That's a lot lots of tailoring. And
(12:55):
I feel like you brought that home with you because
you do that very well. Yeah, I love like. I
definitely would never have worn a suit before I went
to Sweden, and now I like, Oh, I love a suit.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm sure you've gathered some information and favorites from over there,
So can you tell us a bit about your favorite
scandy brands or designers.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yep, so obviously love Acne. I thought Acne was American. No, yeah,
they're Swedish, very very Swedish. So Acne is your genes
that really cool street vibes. But one of the creators
of Acne has also started Eighties, which is great. Look
it up. It's e yt Ys. Please hold I google
everything in these shows. Yes, yt Ys really cool. The
(13:44):
website is actually down at the moment, which is sad,
but you can see their stuff on you and you
can get it on far fettion ss sense I don't
even know. Yeah, they do really cool jeans, really cool boots,
really cool. I love Rugby Jersey. I was wearing one yesterday.
They did cool rugby jerseys, cool bomber jackets, like just
that street style iconic. Oh is it amazing? I didn't
(14:06):
even know that. Love Stand Studios. Love is stan Stand
Studio and Studio s T A. N D and Studios.
They do leather, really really good leather, so like great
leather skirts, great leather jackets. So it's an investment price point. Yeah,
investment price point. Incredible out of web. So I have
some really good fake for coats, but it's so funny.
(14:29):
I wear them to the office and everyone's like, oh,
there's Miranda Priestley. Yeah, and you're like, excuse me, I've
got individual style. I'm from Scandinavia. Yeah, so really incredible.
Obviously a Nina being obviously Ganny. It's so fun Ganny
is also really good to buy secondhand because it lasts.
Look up Jade Cropper. That's the brand that all the
(14:51):
cool girls are wearing. Celebrities, Yeah, like Flight, the Kardashians.
It's also all that kind of draping high high here,
the rounded shoulders, the asymmetrical bunching.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean like it's yes, look a middriff is four
hundred and sixty nine dollars, but it's good too, yes,
se Yeah, and sign up to the adms and the
newsletters or just have a look. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I think it's just also seeing the different styles because
then you go and you see, oh, what's a dupe version?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And some of these brands you can get here. I
mean obviously with the internet mostly can get everything. Yeah.
I want to talk about not just those brands, but
sort of globally and in Australia. Fashion trends Yep, you've
talked about how you kind of research them.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
What are your thoughts on them.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
As a topic. Do you find they're moving too fast?
Do you find we're calling everything a trend when it's
a color?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, I think it's moving pretty fast. It is really
hard to keep up, and I just think sometimes it's
just not worth keeping up. But I also think we
label things that's just an item as a trend.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's great that there's a name, but it kind of
makes it feel like then it goes in and out
when really it's just a lovely red item that didn't
need that lad.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, that's new and fresh or a different take on something. Yes,
So that's why I love knowing what everyone's wearing right now.
But I will have fully tap out. So you work
in the internet, as I say, yeah, and you're almost
always in the office when I get here.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You basically live here. So do you mostly shop online?
Do you shop iral in real life and either or
what are your go to sites or stores? I definitely
always shop online. I'll have my brands that I love
from newsletters. I love a big scroll on Dish. I
just I love seeing what Dish is doing. Love the iconic.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
The Iconic's great for when you have that specific piece
and you want to know different price points, so you
use the filters to be like black black jeans size. Also,
I just think the algorithm on the Iconic's grade in
the sense that you find one piece and then you
can see all the different versions of it in different prices.
I always love to invest in swimwear because I just
(16:57):
feel like you, I show you you're often wearing it,
and I love a bodysuit, so I can then use it.
So like BONDI, I love their suit. It's like hons
of g am I saying it probably and then Epemera
so like they're my threes e Feme, you've had to
call on the show. Yeah, I love a one piece,
so I always invest there, but also I do that
online because it's like I know, I know the brands
(17:19):
love going to Venice. I love it. Yeah, I love it.
I think you've said it before in the podcast. I
find it relaxing. I find it like real. Yes, it's
such a challenge, it's so enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's generally more affordable, and also then you're saving something
from land film exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I also look out for warehouse sales. If you want
to build out a classic like quality quality wardrobe, look
out for the warehouse sales. They're actually really worth it.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
And thankfully a lot of brands now because you know
people are rural or not always in Sydney or Melbourne,
are doing them online.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Archive sales online. You really know what. I don't want
to have to go on line up or I can't,
or it's in Melbourne. Pop it online, we will buy it.
One thing that I really do with clothes is I
don't actually look that much at sizes. I actually I
got a lot of my clothes altered. Do you Yes, No,
it's not so, I think it's not. It depends on
(18:17):
if there's something you really like, it's good quality, you know,
if it fits better you're going to wear it more,
so that ten dollars or that twenty dollars is actually
worth it. So that's why I can shop online because
I often will go, Okay, I'm going to get a
bigger size, and I will get it to tailored. You're
quite tall. Do you have problems with pants? Yeah? Definitely,
(18:41):
pants online is hard.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I agree tailoring's worth it, particularly, like you say, if
you go to a warehouse sale, it's a good quality
brand and you know, maybe you've got it seventy percent off. Yes,
you might have to pay a little bit to get
it tweaked, but then it's fits you perfectly and you'll
have it forever.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
One really good example of this is I bought in
a Marks and Spencer sale this beautiful tweed black dress
that it looks like it's a Chanel dress. I didn't
even look at this size. I got it. I got
it perfectly tailored for me. Now it does look.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Like shite, yes, and it probably fits you better than
the way it would have fit if you brought it
in your size, because you've had it made like perfectly
to you. Also, I think on that point as well,
just generally forget the tailoring part. But just I mean,
you've got to look at the size. But if you're
shopping in real life, I always will take in three
different sizes. Yeah, I might want it oversized some brands.
I know my size, but then if it's mid rise
(19:31):
or high rise. You know, you just if you look
at something and go, oh, that's not my size, just
think of it as a garment, an item, take a
few to try on. Or if there's a good returns
policy online, yeah, I always know the returns policy, always
know the returns policy. But just yeah, don't let that
dictate or make you feel bad.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know, I like literally have fifteen different types of
sizes in my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Oh yeah, and all brands are so different.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So it's getting chilly now, and you lived somewhere that
got quite chili yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Minus twenty three degrees chili.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yes, very cold, So talk to me about winter dressing,
what you learn from over there or your vibes for now.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, it's definitely looking at the fabrics. It's getting those
natural fibers so that then they're thinner not bulky, so
that you can layer. But my trick is to stick
to the like one silhouette rule. So like either an
oversized top with a thin slimmer bottle slimmer bottoms or
the reverse, because otherwise it can just get quite chunky.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Because I'm not used to going to cold cold. If
I ever travel to cold cold, I look like that
marshmallow and blow up man because I'm just like, must
stay warm.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, okay, so proportions. Proportions is definitely one thing, and
I just also think everyone should invest in a knitted
sleeveless vest. Oh what do you mean? You know those
like waistcoat style. I don't have one. I'm going to
show you can we do some good wine because they
are perfect to put over a shirt, or you can
(20:58):
just wear it by itself and it's still warm because
it's that knitted thought of item. Okay, yeah, so I
think about layering smart not bulky, and really look at
the fabric. It's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
How wud are these.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
All? Right?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
My friends on tabouji and budget okay, hibougie, I think
I'm actually going to go with Nagnates Rydell short.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I know that we're going into winter and they'll be
extremely not appropriate. It's not really inappropriate, but I love
a good little mini short. Okay for the gym. Know
they're made of wool. Yeah, have you seen Nagnata?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I've got a pair of They're active wear shorts, which
I love. Yeah, when I'm active and when it's summer,
which hasn't been ether recently.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It's more lounge wary. Looks really really good with a shirt,
so I would team it with a shirt, a gold chain,
or it looks really good with an oversized tea and
then your socks in your sneakers, so it'd be part
of my weekend. How much two sixty for a pair
for a pair of woolen undies for a pair of
woolen undies. But you said I was allowed to do boogie.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You are an Aussie brand, good quality, natural fibers approved approved. Okay,
so my bougie isn't that bougie? They are a pair
of pants from an Aussie label called Moto Fashion.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I love these.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Okay, Well, I'm gonna have to recommend the Navy because
at the time of recording, the burgundy is sold out.
They're called the Navy Faux Leather pocket Pants. I have
the wine color.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yes, and I've seen you wear them and they are incredible.
I love them.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
They're very comfortable, high waisted fly button pockets at the front,
but not that you put anything in them straight to whitish. Yeah,
I'm not doing the tight leather or faux leather at
the moment, not that there's anything wrong with that, but
they just are so comfortable. They're not cropped on me.
They might be too short on you, they might be
a bit.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I am a bit worried about that for me, but
they look so good on honestly. I mean they're one
fifty nine ninety five, so not crazy, but you can
get cheaper. But they're an assie.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
The Navy's beautiful, like imagine the Navy with the gray mark.
But I just love the Burgundy. And they have a
really good size range of eight to twenty.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, that's incredible. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So check them out online and see if they do
restock the burgundy. I have message to them, so fingers crossed.
All right, budget, my friend.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So for my budget, I'm going with a kmart piece.
Oh yeah, it is their long sleeve Oxford shirt. It
is incredible. It comes in a few different colors. How
many people do you think in the office has that.
I think it's mandatory, But the quality of It is
so good. It comes in a pink, it comes in
a white.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I wore that and someone said to me, it's that
Luova and I was like, oh no, but it's very
similar alone.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Twenty five thirty five I think it's twenty five, Yeah,
twenty five dollars. It would be go perfectly over the
Nagnita shorts, the wool aunties. Yeah, perfect over wool ants.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And even though it's sound of kind of a medium
weight and got that kind of Oxford.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Shirt vibe, you could wear that over swimmers in summer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, shorts, leather pants. I'm obsessed. I love how I'm
selling you on your own yep. My budget is a
bag from Bellini called the Hazel Handle Bag. Full price
at seventy nine ninety five. At the time of recording,
it's forty seven bucks. Wow, that worst casey spending eighty dollars.
So it's a Mulberry kind of ready BURGUNDYEP patent.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh that's incredible. Now can I tell you why I
brought that?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Because you have unique, cool bags that I always ask
you about, and this felt very Eliza.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, I have a Ganny bag that looks very similar.
Okay that Yeah, we had Osmosis. It's just like shiny Patent,
which I find where it's quite well. If it's an
affordable brand, sometimes better than those cheap fake leathers. Bucket bag,
cool buckle like that looks designer. I love the gold
accent and I love how it's cinched in and it's
(24:49):
got little gold feet.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, with gold feats, maybe that will become the k
maut shirt bag of the office. Yeah, Eliza, I love you.
Thanks for being the best boss. Thanks for always inspiring
me with your style. And I hope you come back
and join us against him.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Oh, thank you. This was so fun. Thank you Lee.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. And if
you want the newsletter that goes with a show to
land in your in box, head to the show notes
and click the link.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's free. See you next week.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
This episode was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production
by Lew Hill.
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