September 17, 2025 • 34 mins
In this weeks fashion drop Leigh & Lucinda Pikkat are dissecting all of the incredible street style we saw during Copenhagen Fashion Week. From sustainability requirements that put other fashion weeks to shame (18 mandatory criteria just to show!) to the Danish girls who made sneakers with dresses a thing, Copenhagen will always serve up fashion inspiration!
Lucinda breaks down the "Copenhagen C's"—from Scandi minimalism to full-blown maximalism—and explains why 50% influencer attendance means we're seeing the most creative, risk-taking looks on the streets. Think tartan mini skirts with giant bows, sequin dresses layered over jeans, and enough polka dots to make your head spin (in the best way).
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on Hey you bis, I'm Lee Campbell. You
probably know that I'm normally talking about lipstick and hairspray,
but I'm dropping a Nothing to Wear podcast here because
my guest is Lucinda Piquat and we are discussing some
(00:31):
incredible street star looks and some inspiration for the new season.
What I loved about Licinda's advice is that most of
these looks or combinations of are already hiding in your wardrobe.
So have a listen, get inspired, and let me know
what you think. Whoever said orange is a new pink
with seriously.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have
to do it. You live for fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear the podcast. It
solves fashion problems and levels of your wardrobe. It's that
time of year again, Copenhagen Fashion Week. I know you
all think we're obsessed here at Mamma Mia, and that's
because we are. This street style looks as well as
the runway looks at Copenhagen are refreshing and different and
really inspiring and a great way to go through your
(01:17):
own wardrobe and try something different. So joining me again
today is Licinda Pakat. She was on the show a
little while ago and you guys loved her insider tips
and insights. So she's going to help me dissect what
we saw last week at Copenhagen Fashion Week, both on
the runway but mostly what the people wearing on the
streets and how we can translate it to our own wardrobes.
(01:38):
Let's do it. Listender, welcome back. You were last on
and we talked about what makes a brand cool and
that was so phenomenal. So I'm excited to talk to
you about Copenhagen. Copenhagen. I don't want to get it
wrong fashion.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
We're having a debate here, I do. I'm going to
stick to Copenhagen.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I Copenhagen. That's the Australian twang of it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I think flavor it on the Aussie twang. Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But before we get into it, I ask returning guest
two questions. Do you have a style news and if so,
who and why?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
My style news would probably be my d today. Style
resonates mostly or I try and make it resonate with
Princess Diana. I'm obsessed with her style because I do
lean more towards like that sporty aesthetic. I naturally gravitate
to the looks that we've seen her wear with the
bike shorts and the big jersey, and that just suits
my lifestyle with dropping the kids at school and going
(02:29):
to the gym. So I do try and emulate Princess Die.
But right now, i'd say, looking at sort of trends
and what's happening, looking into spring and summer and the
trends that are coming up, I do love Sienna Miller
and that like boho vibe is sort of what I'm
getting into. Now, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
The Princess Die thing. As soon as you said it,
I was like, yes, you nail that. Every time I
look at you on Instagram and you were in cool,
like sporty lux vibes, I'm like, I just could not
do that, but I love that you pull that off. Now.
Second question is, tell me about a memorable purchase. It
might be a big impulse purchase that you could regret
(03:07):
or that you are glad you made something that you
saved up for, but a really memorable purchase or item
that you but that comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know, I don't really buy luxury designer handbags anymore.
I've sort of stopped doing that. And if I'm going
to invest in a piece, it'll be a piece of jewelry.
And I'm not talking You're Cartier bracelet or your Tiffany's.
I'd go and get a bespoke piece made. Recently, I
got one made with my daughter's birthstone, so that on
a necklace in some gold, so something like that that
(03:36):
has it's personal, it means something. It's custom.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, it's not gonna be ripped off all over Timo
in five minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And you're not paying a huge mark up for these
luxury brands.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's so true. And I think you know, custom jewelry
can be really expensive, but there's some affordable ways to
do it. When I say affordable, it's still a forever piece,
but it's you're right, you're not paying twelve grand for
a bangle that everyone's got or everyone's got the copy.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So true, Like you dictate the price, whatever your budget is,
you give to them and then they can go away
and make something.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, love it all right, We're here to talk about Copenhagen.
Their fashion week just happened last week, and I want
you to tell us first, why is Copenhagen Fashion Week
suddenly relatively suddenly on the radar when it used to
kind of be in New York City, London, Milan, Paris.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That's rightly like, it's strange that such a little old
Copenhagen has suddenly been up there with the Big four.
So yeah, you've got the Big Four, but there's actually
like eighteen other fashion weeks going around the world that
people don't really know about. We've obviously got our Australian
Fashion Week, There's New Zealand Fashion Week in a couple
of weeks, there's Oslo. There's all these ones happening.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And suddenly I'm a bit about Dubai every now and then,
But maybe that's because I was researching a holiday thee
out of the Rhythm.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But it's funny that Copenhagen has really shot up and
is one to watch and it's got eyeballs on it
and I love it. I'm obsessed with Copenhagen every year.
I get excited pert spring summer in particular, and I
think it's two things that comes down to that make
it so special and interesting. Yes, one is they've got
this huge sustainability element. The CEO Cecilia ross Mark. She's
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been in the role for maybe six years.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But CEO of the fashion week, CEO of Copenhagen Fashion
I don't think people really realize that these things are
business in and of themselves all year round.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Right Yeah. I think Copenhagen started in two thousand and six,
which is relatively new.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That is quite new.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So a lot of the other big ones Milan, Paris, whatnot,
they sort of started in the eighties nineties, so it's
a fresh Copenhagen Fashion Week anyway, Cecilia has been working
on sustainability and how brands are required to bring x
amount of well they need to be sustainable in order
to show at fashion week. And this isn't just like oh,
let's hope you can do it and tick a box.
(05:48):
You have to hit a minimum of eighteen requirements in
order to show, no way, So it's amazing. So it's
things like it's the whole production line, so whether it
be the materials they're using, sixty percent need to be
of sustainable or recycled working conditions. And then also the
show within itself, so no paper invitation. How are you
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getting your garments to and from the show? There can't
be any plastic. There's zero waste at shows. So knowing
this and having this knowledge is quite interesting now watching
the shows. Yes, and I had no idea. Yeah, and
it's a really high bar, but Cecilia says it's not
meant to be high, that no one reaches it, that
change with sustainability comes from the top. It's her responsibility
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to bring these brands up and then they can move
forward together.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, and it's not like you say, just about slapping
a label on it, you know. I think there was
a fast fashion brand recently that was somehow be Corp
certified Fritz as poly Yeah, and you know, not everyone
can afford really high end things. But also there can
be affordability that's not at the cost of the environment
so much. And maybe we don't need super fast fashion
where things are six dollars and then therefore people are
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buying eight thousand of them. So I think she's right.
Leading by example should hopefully set a standard because we
see these fashion weeks trends trickle down to the high street.
If these standards for the environment and sustainability start up here.
Hopefully that will also trick down throughout the whole fashion industry.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's so true, So she's got a lot of eyeballs
on her. And brands also get brownie points or bonus
points for doing things like what's their cast diversity and
sizing diversity adaptive clothing, So what are they doing for
disabilities materials use? I know one brand's using seaweed and
turning it into a fiber, So hopefully other fashion weeks
can look at this.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Scany just always a miles ahead in everything like that
whole area just blows my mind and I want to
move there, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So that's one element of it. But then also what
makes Copenhagen Fashion Weeks so exciting and electric to watch
is obviously the street style.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's it for me. And it's funny because when I said,
you know, let's get you on to talk about Copenhagen
Fashion Week, I really meant street style. I mean, I
do like watching the runways and the designers and the shows,
but it's what the people are wearing outside that is
like a candy store for the eyes, and it feels
so different to all the other ones. Why do you
think we'd love looking at what people going to the
shows are wearing.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's so it's such an interesting point because who's going
to Copenhagen. It's actually fifty percent influencers compared to media
industry buyers, whereas usually it's around like seventy five percent
the industry. Right, So I think with so many more
influencers going who are there with the intention of getting photographed,
it's really interesting looks that are getting created that we're
(08:31):
now interested in.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, and I guess they're going and this is no
shaded influences and you and I both do content creation,
but they're going as that job, whereas I think, you know,
I've attended a bunch of overseas sashion weeks in Sydney
for many years, but I'm going less about what I'm
wearing and more functional to then run back and write
an article, you know, whether it's in the media pit
or I'm there to produce content for back when I
(08:54):
was at Cosmo. Now I'm Mum and Maya.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
But they're there.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
As them, and they are their content and they are
their channels. So I think the expression there is their work,
whereas when I've attended as media you know it will
come out in words on a website. So yeah, what
they wear is really important and therefore very different, very different.
I feel like it's the most varied street style that
I see.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think like the French Parisians have that how do
you say that gensiqua, The Danish girls have that it factor.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, it still feels effortless, but it's more fun, you know, joyful.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I think Scandinavian or Danish Copenhagen street style, whatever you
want to call it. I think a really good way
to sort of wrap your head around it is looking
at the Copenhagen Seas, which I was trying to tell
you earlier, but the Copenhagen Seas, So it starts with
that Scandinavian sleek cool level. So it's clean, crisp, chic,
it's mutual tones, it's base layers, just keeping it very like.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The silhouettes are quite simple or structured, like not fussy, right,
and not a lot of different clashing things. Ye, you
look at it and you absorb it all in one go.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Absolutely, and that's sort of what millennials know. I think
that's scandy cool, and that's even in interiors. Remember that
whole white walls gray. Everything's scandy cool.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You're so right, because it was all a bit minimal
and very chic and doesn't have to be expensive. But
it was clean, and that's what I would think of
as s candy style, both in fashion and in like
you say, home Weares. But that's definitely still around.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's still around, and we definitely see that at fashion Week,
but there is this other side where it's almost like
bulking and adding in different items that create this maximalism
or even quiet maximalism, which is almost like a gateway
into or experimenting with the maximalism trend.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, and maximalism, I mean, I love that term, but
sometimes for me it looks look Eclectic is definitely another
word that comes to mind. But sometimes it's just like
a big old mish mash of lots of things put
on somebody that I always think looks very cool.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Would I wear it?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
No? Would I even know where to start to layer
all those kind of unusual pairings. It's so different from
the scandy we first described, which was kind of clean silhouettes,
you know, really well made, structured or simple. Why do
you think it's gone so the other way? But both
still coexist.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think it's a more of a cultural shift in
people wanting to explore their unique individual style, so adding elements.
Maximalism's always been a style trend within itself, and like
you said, it is this mixed mass, chaotic harmony.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Really yeah, that's right, because they somehow get it right
most of the time.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And it kind of works. There's something about Copenhagen where
I find it doesn't feel as pretentious and this is me.
I've only been to Australian Fashion Week and this is
me just on the sidelines. In Australia, it doesn't feel
as pretentious. I watch every single fashion week and I
almost study it like it's a university degree. I feel
it's not as pretentious, and I think that's because people
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they are taking risks with their fashion, and if you're
in a room with other people taking risks, you're not
going to sort of judge them, as.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You feel more confident to wear something that's not, you know,
completely on trend or head to toe whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think they're just leaning into this is who we are.
We've sort of got a name for this maximalism style.
Let's do it, and let's do it well.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So now if people do it and are different that
it's not like whoa, what's that person wearing? Whereas I
think sometimes in Australia. I mean I think the last
fashion week that was in May, I did see a
lot more eclectic looks outside for Sydney street style than
I guess I have in previous years. But still there's
a wall factor, like I think you're looking and it's
a bit of eye candy, but it's also a lot
(12:37):
to take in because we don't see that much variety
or that much individuality here, whereas there it feels like
they're at ease with it because individuality is the signature
or is the aim. Ye, what's the other seas? So
did we miss a sea?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So it was the three seas that make it that
scandy cool, But then it goes into like cool girl
color kitch even though that's okay, but clash, yes, and clever.
So it's just always remembering the opposites and sort of
the different ends of the spectrum with Copenhagen style and
that they can blend. There is spectrum. It's either super
clean ultra maximalism, and then there's that like in between
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that we see on the streets.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm going to aim for the in between. I definitely
can't be the maximalist, and I guess I am generally
the clean, but that's probably because I'm just a bit
boring and basic and in a.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Rush difficult, Like if you're so used to it, I
think a lot of us are us as millennials used
to like capsule wardrobe ten pieces.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Exactly, and now I'm like, wait, I do have a
sparkly dress, but well I wear it overdre that's outrageous.
We are going to dissect some photos in a minute
that we've picked some looks from street style that will dissect,
But do you want to just to give us an
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overall vibe of this street style that we've seen last week,
or some takeaway trends that you just kept in your
mind that have a name or that you can describe.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Some key from the street style. There's like we've been discussed,
but layering different materials and the fabrications and different styles.
So it's like the masculine oversized blazer with the lace
skirt underneath, Layering on top of layering. When you think
you've done, do two more. Like there's a lot of layering.
Accessories have been a huge standout on the runways, but
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also with the street style, and it sort of moves
into these really eclectic So if like you were saying, ly,
if you sort of want to maybe try maximalism, but
it's a bit scary. You can start with a bit
more of a clean palette with your wardrobe, but have
an outrageous accessory.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, but maybe just one to start with, just people
like maybe me, because I having a look at some
of the street style. It is three huge necklaces, earrings,
a hat, a dog bag, bag charms. It's a lot,
but for somehow it works for them. I don't even
own all those things. But I think just having one
statement accessory that's not your black bag, or putting two
together you wouldn't normally, maybe start that way.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And it is probably worth noting that it is slightly performative.
We see that Australian Fashion Week and here it's the
outrageous wardrobes that get photographed, yes, and that get spoken about. Yeah,
so yeah, I guess it's I wonder the intention isn't
there to wear that on the streets day to day?
Probably not, but yeah, we can get our own inspiration from.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, it's like that Koko Chanel quote like when you
look in the mirror and then take one thing off.
So I think it was her, but I think they're like,
look in the mirror and then add three more things
and then go, which I just think is fabulous. But
it's also about I think, giving yourself permission as a
regular person to wear what you want to wear and
not worrying if things like match or go you know,
or you know, if it's technically are pulled together out
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of fit, because somehow it just works.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, totally. So yeah, i'd say the layering, accessories, different fabrics,
so lots of Poko dots and I'm talking lots even
on the runway. There is so much like you think
a trend's gone, I've just.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Started, like because obviously Spring summer's dropping here and actually
I want you to join me for a Spring Summer
trend episode in a few weeks please, because I've started
to see poker everywhere here, so it's obviously started overseas
and still going.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, it's one of those things like we'd always say,
if it's sticks and sells, it stays. Yeah, so if
they're selling, they're going to.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Keep making it.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I literally just did a wardrobe clean out, and I'm
so glad because I've got a really cute poka dot dress,
but I was like, eh, so it's in the maybe pile.
It hasn't gone yet. And now after seeing all these picks,
I'm like, hang on, I'm going to get her out
and wear her with jeans and a dog bag or something.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I don't know. Speaking of dog bag, there was a
new Talent show on the second day. Her name was
Anne Sophie Matson, so new talent. Everyone was watching to
see what she'd come out with and produce, and a
lot of her looks were really beautiful and simple, classic silhouettes,
but she came up with these crazy metallic rat bags
and I quite like the play on words there rat
(16:56):
bag yeah yeah, but these huge rats, like they looked
like toy rats. Yeah, and everyone was walking down the
wrung way with them, and it's clever, it's crazy. I
think it was one of those things like to get
eyeballs being new talent, but also it signifies where we're
going with sort of sculptural accessors.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, and playfulness and I think and not taking everything
so seriously. I mean, I think the everyday person is
not going to invest in a handbag that's the shape
of an animal. But I think it just is nice
to see something that's a little bit not too serious,
so true, you know, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I mean I just started following an instag Democrat and
they have this really cool it's like metal but quite
large fish clutch and it looks like a fish and
you open it up and I was like, I love
that and it's so weird and I would never purchase
it because of cost perware, but we're getting some personality
back totally.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, Okay, Yes, Polka dots, Tartan, lots of checks, checks,
lots ofs and head pieces so again this sounds head scarves,
but hats as well.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And like like I've seen these like beanie like hand crochet.
There was a lot of when I say Grandma vibes,
but it feels like that kind of old school handmade
knitted and there was a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, so kettle Attilia. It was all like dresses made
out of essentially doilies. It was these beautiful summer dresses
that looked yeah, made out of doilies, but it was gorgeous.
It really elegant, yeah, and almost combined like vintage and
sex ofhel Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And like you say, that's a clash of like that
masculine and feminine all pretty. I love it. So, Lucinda,
we're gonna flick through some pictures now. We're gonna put
a carousel up on Instagram so you can have a
play at home and look at the images we're talking about.
We've picked out some street style looks and that stay
sect them, what the trends are, what we think of them,
would we wear them? So Tartan was huge, and lots
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of Tartan.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Lots of Tartan in different styles as well. So the
picture where looking at she's wearing a skirt like a
mini skirt, which has this massive bow dropping down right
to the ankle. I should do a side note. Bows
were everywhere as well, Yes, Carol, addition, she showed on
the first date. It's actually her husband and wife duo.
Bows on the bags.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I love the dress.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
They were gorgeous. Here a Tartan miniskirt with this huge
bow on the.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Front, which kind of does speak to what you were
saying before about like the masculine and feminine like Tartan
is quite you know, it's not a particular. I guess
it depends on the item, but the bow is quite feminine,
but tartan can be not particularly masculine. But it's a
bit of a juxtaposition for sure. Yeah, And that top
is like kind of one of those sheer mesh she's wearing,
like a sheer mesh long sleeve top that we've seen
everywhere this autumn winter here. Yeah, with you know, a
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little barlette underneath. So that's really easy that lots of
people might have that at home and then can mix
and match it with something that they wouldn't have worn
it with this past season.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's actually such a good point ly, Like I love
this street style for Copenhagen because you can do it
with whatever you've got in your wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, go and just have a play and go. I
would never wear those things together and put it on
and see what.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Happens, and even saying I haven't worn that in twelve months,
so I'm going to pull this and do it with that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
So I think also because I fall into the trap
off I wear that top with those pants and you know,
maybe those three bottoms. But I rarely have the time
to get creative in my mind to go actually I
should try that with that that I haven't really thought of.
But it feels like these people are innate at just
pairing things that are unexpected. And she's also wearing fluffy fluffy.
It looks like our groups from here.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, like crazy shoes, which like goes to show, like
just different accessories, like having fun with accessories and letting
them do the loud talking.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, so totally. Whereas if she'd want like it, if
that's I can't tell if that's black or navy check,
but if she'd want a pump, that would have been
a lot more stylish in chic, but a lot less expressive.
And Copenhagen, if that makes.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Sense as well. With Copenhagen, everyone's in flats and.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Sneakers, yes, and Creach says me in heels, not like
and maybe the odd Kidden Hill.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, but I think it was Leandre Medeene who created
man Rafella. She said the Danish girls essentially made sneakers
with style and fashion cool. And when you think about
back in the day, we'd wear our assis to work
on the train, get changed and put your heels on.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Because they ride bikes everywhere. You got really ride bikes
in a stiletto.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It's you cut and we're dispounting that thing every day.
But yeah, it's seventy five of Copenhagen's citizens commute via
a bike. Imagine if we do that.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
No, I mean, I would not be here. I can
hear a squash smug on the road. But I love
so practical and it's still cool because for me, I'm like,
I'm doing something practical today. I can't wear fun clothes.
I have these versions of myself, but they are all
mushed into one. Yeah, let's look at the next one. Okay,
this to me speaks Copenhagen. This woman is wearing a
(21:37):
long sleeve it looks like a silk satin long sleeve
top jeans or are they added as pants? That's not
a stripe? Is it?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's some don't We both don't have that glasses?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
No, I know, but it looks like jeans, slip flops,
a headscarf and then a big bag. So did I
say the sequence dress over the top? This is what
I think of when I think of a version of this.
But I also just not that I don't love her.
Look that's something I would never try. But I have
all of those elements separately in my wardrobe. What do
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you think of that?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I look at this and love it in context?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yes, in context is such an important point.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Would I wear that down the street of George Street,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Or in the country where you're from, that would get to.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Barrel High Street. But it's one of those examples where
she's probably got the shirt and jeans and shoes off.
You know, let's go out the door. Hang on a minute,
let's add three more pieces. Yeah, which is at Copenhagen Style,
but it works here. She's at fashion week. She looks great,
she looks confident.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I feel like last year's fashion Week there was a
lot of that kind of sequence shift dress with layering,
like I think, if you've got those, and again this
autumn winter we just had there was a lot of
sparkly skirts and a lot of sparkly dresses. So you
can absolutely still carry them over to this new season.
It might just be I mean, just wear them if
you love them, But otherwise it might be mixing and matching.
See that's quite a casual bag and a flat shoe,
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but it could be an evening dress.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And you can dissect bits from this, so headscars we're
seeing a lot of the headscars, that handmaid's towel vibe
of wearing out like this just waits ring somemer. This
is going to be everywhere. That mustard color as well.
So there's a brand. Day three of Copenhagen Fashion Week.
Two best friends created this brand called Alice, and they're
actually from Christiania. You know, the free town in Copenhagen.
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It's lawless, there's no laws. They've got their own electricity schooling.
They can sell the kind of vibe. Yes, so they
just run itself. Yeah, let's go. I don't know what
I want to do. It felt really scary, but it's
quite civilized, like they've got their own primary schools going
and it's just this way of living. But yeah, it's
(23:43):
the brand's called Alice and it's two best friends from
this Christiania they've created. They showed fantasy Land but maybe.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
We don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And their color on the runway this year was that
beautiful mustard color. I love that color.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It was all, yeah, it feels like a cooler tan
than to me, like I do like a tan accessor
in a tan, but mustard just feels like a bit edgier,
but it's still sort of a neutral.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
One hundred percent agree it plays it's a safe exit
out of neutrals.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah. For me, it's a bright color, but it's safe.
I feel like everyone has versions of this in their
wardrobe that they just need to go and play dress up.
Like literally, reten you three or seven and go on play.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And I dare you to.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
We encourage you to actually try. We probably should, We
should do it. We say, what have we got next? Okay,
this is an image of three lovely ladies. They look
like they're having the best time. Do you think they're related?
I don't know. There's a lot to dissect here, so
make sure you check out the image on Instagram or
it's on your screen on YouTube. The lady on the left,
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so we'll start with, she's wearing a black Maxi skirt
I think or dress. It almost looks like a blue
Oxford shirt underneath, which we all have. Then a tweed jacket.
Then the next scarf that we're seeing worn as belts headscarves.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, what kind of shoe would that?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's like a hybrid. It's like a lace up ballet, like.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
The Mary Jane type.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, and then I love the woven printed bag that
she's kind of carrying like a basketbag. That's almost like,
I guess, beach style, but it doesn't look like a
beach bag.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
There.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
That's a lot I feel like that stuff we all
have versions of in our wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Because it's all relatively neutral colors. It's not too much.
Yea's practical. She looks great like I think.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I think she looks great. It's not something I would
ever wear and more to the point, ever think of doing,
which again inspires me to try different combinations. And nothing
there screams one individual trend that people might not already have.
They're all kind of classics, but just put together in
a weird way, a different way classic with a twist.
And then what have we got in the middle? Is
that a pedal pusherk.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
They are the capris and we did see them with
Opera Sport. They opened up Copenhagen Fashion Week day one.
They were having black capris everywhere, which I personally love,
but you're not a fan.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I like looking at them. I just it's not my
body type. And I know I did it the first time,
or the first time for me many years ago in
my early twenties. I like looking at them, but it's
not something I would seek out to purchase. But I
like a Bermuda short, which I guess it's a looser version,
you know, it's a long short above the knee, but
tight and cropped just under the knee. Not doing any favors.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, if you do like that trend, they're coming back.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
They're coming.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are you going to do it? Well, I say, I
love them. I've actually never tried any on. I love
the look of it.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Never saen ever for me. But then she's almost got
like a chanellesque tweed, that kind of candy pink, longer coat.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And that bubblegum pink they're calling it. That's really big. Interesting.
Actually the colors that she's wearing were really strong on
the runway, so the black and white as a base,
and then the bubblegum pink and then even the red
rosette that she's got.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, she's got like a little red brooch. It could
be Chanelle, could might not be. And it looks like
also a hairscarf, perhaps in a ponytail at the back. Again,
pretty classic items that are just kind of mismatched in
the course way.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That's a really nice way to describe it. I think
if they are quite classic sophisticated, Yeah, and playing with
different fabrications so that tweed just with the linen or whatever.
The cotton pants she's wearing.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, and then the Lovely Lady of the third Lady,
she is wearing balloon pants sort of that we're seeing
them everywhere in spring. That they've got the tie around
the ankle. From where I sit, they look like a
woven kind of ballet flat type loafer which I again
am seeing everywhere, knit vest, white shirt underneath. Interesting hat.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah. I don't tell exactly what the hat is, but
hat wear and hat hats, everything's on the head.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Do you think it's because it's cold there? Like I
don't wear hats unless I'm going to the beach.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And it's not like she's It hasn't got any sort
of brim, it's not some protection.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But it looks very cool. It's interesting. We had Eliza,
she's the head of content here at Mamma Mia, and
we'll put a link in the show notes that she
lived in Scandinavia and worked at Scandinavian Vogue for a
long time, and she said the number one thing that
she recommends for women to have in their wardrobe is
like a sleeveless knit vest like that that that's really
great for layering and can add personality to a peace
I don't own what, but again a classic that you
(28:05):
can have every season. Yeah, oh, talk to me about
this book, because I think this speaks to your first
point about the kind of clean lines that were used
to seeing.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And used to and still seeing.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
This lady is wearing a kind of very classic structured
blazer in a white or off white shade that sinks
in at the waist, and then a long white either
dress or maxiskirt that's kind of uneven hem but still
very clean silhouette overall.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And with playing in the blacks and the cream ivory whites.
So day three we saw school month and then opera
sport as well. Day one, they all focus so heavily
on these black and whites, which is sort of contradictory
to the whole maximalist style, but it goes back to
the origins of that scandy minimalist style dressing. Yeah, so
(29:02):
it's still quite prevalent within the streets and it's what
consumers I guess are buying in Copenhagen.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, because she's got a black looks like an East
West bag or a bowler bag and a black shoe.
And for me, when I wear black and white together,
I feel like I look like a weight stuff. But
for some reason that's just so classic and simple but
not I don't know, it just works.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I know she looks beautiful, very elegant, very elegant. Yeah,
it was so school and month day three. Don't mind
my Danish pronunciation, but they were the beautiful almost like
feminine ethereal style runway shows showing all these beautiful whites
and the ivories. I love white and smock style tops
(29:44):
as well, love beautiful girls like yeah, feminine lie would
be How are you okay? I'm oh good.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I hope that comes here. Okay, this image that you're
going to have to have a look at an instagram
it or do our best to describe it. For me,
this is the definition of maximalism, Liscinda, please help me
describe this. What are we seeing?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Okay, So she's wearing a maxi skirt with a long
sleep top. Let's start with the bottom. It's an orange
maxi skirt that's sort of been cut up and looks
like spaghetti yeah, it does.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It looks like just fringing, like ringing, you know, one
of those chimney dresses. Like, yeah, I don't know how
to explain.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It was a skirt. Yeah that Luckily the top onto
which we'll get to in a second, goes like it's
almost to the length of a mini skirt, so all
you're seeing is orange fringing on the bottom. Yes, And
then she's got this. It looks really cool, this embroidered. Yeah,
like long sleeve top, different colors.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's got like red, it's almost like Ken dome vibes.
Obviously I'm assuming it's not Kendon, but it's like Colbot
blue orange flowers. It could be a jacket. It almost
looks padded, but it's stripes, florals, splashes of blue, splashes
of red and black and yellow.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And it's big yellow hoops. Two or three necklaces, Yeah,
big necklaces, so chunky accessories.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And then her handbag looks like a Chuck super white,
which I love. But it's this big blue and white chicked.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And it's all block colors, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, so almost mean orange is in a primary color,
but it's very bright colors.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
And then the big hair as well. She's got this
gorgeous afro.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
And she's rocking it. But to me that I mean,
I love it. I again wouldn't wear it, but it
makes me feel so joyful to look at.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It's fun. It's clever as well.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, it is clever because it all ties in, doesn't
it does?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, it works.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We could talk about Copenhagen street stuff forever, but let's
finish with this image of three women on the street
because this is a lot of trends that I think
we're going to see here soon. So talk me through
what we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So we're seeing a lot of sporty sheep girls here.
It's agree with three girls. The one on the left
is wearing blue and white jersey, which we're seeing heaps.
I think this started New York Fashion Week with Loway. Yeah,
we've already been around a fair bit, right, and we're
seeing it here with beconbridge and cotton on. So she's
wearing that classic cotton rugby jersey that we're seeing everywhere,
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but she's got like a blue Oxford shirt underneath it.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I think I can do that. That's not really scary
for me.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, and it's blue on blue, so there's not too
much clashing going on. True. And then she's got these
dark gray cargo pants and then.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Blue crops almost like yeah longer yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And then blue socks with a black kidden here.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I love the socks.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I love the look of it, and I feel like
Australia is getting more into the like a sock with
a heel, a kitten heel. But I love the look
of it. But I wouldn't do it myself. But I
think she looks if she walked down the street in Sydney,
I'd be like cool. I wouldn't be like, whoa, that's
too much.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, you could do this. So it's just blue tying in.
If you've got a blue shirt and get a rugby
jersey over the top, some sort of short or pants,
socks and a heel.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That's true. OK, I'm going to try it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, sharing I love this look. It's really effe.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
And then the one on the right she's wearing at
US active wear shorts which we are seeing.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Everywhere, added US runner shorts, which is the short ones.
Or there's the trackie pants which we're used to, we're
so used to. Yeah, it was Zoe Cravis was seen
wearing these runner shorts by Additors, and it's sort of
just from there blue up. Yeah, it's everywhere. So she's
got the blue and navy runner shorts and then this
bright red bag, which I love, like a biget bag. Yeah,
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she's got socks on as well, but these ones go
just below the knees or high black sock.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So I think overall that look shows that you can mix,
you know, sporty pieces with more classics.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And maybe something to think about is pick a sport
that you like or resonate with. So you'd say the
girl on the right in the shorts, it's almost as
like soccer vibes with the shorts and then this long
socks whereas like the other one's got more of a
rugby s vibe.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
So that's you talking about your sporty leanings. Everything's just
sport for me, and I would only own sport things
if I was going to the gym or did sport,
whereas you want to categorize.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It into the type of sor.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
But on that we are, I'm going to see a
lot of this stuff coming to our Springs summer very soon,
if not now, So can you come back in a
few weeks and we'll translate some of these turns into
what we're about to wear.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, i'd love to Lee.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Thank you for joining me so much.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
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And don't forget there's links in the show notes. You
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See you next week.
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What I loved about Licinda's advice is that most of
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So have a listen, get inspired, and let me know
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have
to do it. You live for fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear the podcast. It
solves fashion problems and levels of your wardrobe. It's that
time of year again, Copenhagen Fashion Week. I know you
all think we're obsessed here at Mamma Mia, and that's
because we are. This street style looks as well as
the runway looks at Copenhagen are refreshing and different and
really inspiring and a great way to go through your
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own wardrobe and try something different. So joining me again
today is Licinda Pakat. She was on the show a
little while ago and you guys loved her insider tips
and insights. So she's going to help me dissect what
we saw last week at Copenhagen Fashion Week, both on
the runway but mostly what the people wearing on the
streets and how we can translate it to our own wardrobes.
(01:38):
Let's do it. Listender, welcome back. You were last on
and we talked about what makes a brand cool and
that was so phenomenal. So I'm excited to talk to
you about Copenhagen. Copenhagen. I don't want to get it
wrong fashion.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
We're having a debate here, I do. I'm going to
stick to Copenhagen.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I Copenhagen. That's the Australian twang of it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I think flavor it on the Aussie twang. Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But before we get into it, I ask returning guest
two questions. Do you have a style news and if so,
who and why?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
My style news would probably be my d today. Style
resonates mostly or I try and make it resonate with
Princess Diana. I'm obsessed with her style because I do
lean more towards like that sporty aesthetic. I naturally gravitate
to the looks that we've seen her wear with the
bike shorts and the big jersey, and that just suits
my lifestyle with dropping the kids at school and going
(02:29):
to the gym. So I do try and emulate Princess Die.
But right now, i'd say, looking at sort of trends
and what's happening, looking into spring and summer and the
trends that are coming up, I do love Sienna Miller
and that like boho vibe is sort of what I'm
getting into. Now, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
The Princess Die thing. As soon as you said it,
I was like, yes, you nail that. Every time I
look at you on Instagram and you were in cool,
like sporty lux vibes, I'm like, I just could not
do that, but I love that you pull that off. Now.
Second question is, tell me about a memorable purchase. It
might be a big impulse purchase that you could regret
(03:07):
or that you are glad you made something that you
saved up for, but a really memorable purchase or item
that you but that comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know, I don't really buy luxury designer handbags anymore.
I've sort of stopped doing that. And if I'm going
to invest in a piece, it'll be a piece of jewelry.
And I'm not talking You're Cartier bracelet or your Tiffany's.
I'd go and get a bespoke piece made. Recently, I
got one made with my daughter's birthstone, so that on
a necklace in some gold, so something like that that
(03:36):
has it's personal, it means something. It's custom.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, it's not gonna be ripped off all over Timo
in five minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And you're not paying a huge mark up for these
luxury brands.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's so true. And I think you know, custom jewelry
can be really expensive, but there's some affordable ways to
do it. When I say affordable, it's still a forever piece,
but it's you're right, you're not paying twelve grand for
a bangle that everyone's got or everyone's got the copy.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So true, Like you dictate the price, whatever your budget is,
you give to them and then they can go away
and make something.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, love it all right, We're here to talk about Copenhagen.
Their fashion week just happened last week, and I want
you to tell us first, why is Copenhagen Fashion Week
suddenly relatively suddenly on the radar when it used to
kind of be in New York City, London, Milan, Paris.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That's rightly like, it's strange that such a little old
Copenhagen has suddenly been up there with the Big four.
So yeah, you've got the Big Four, but there's actually
like eighteen other fashion weeks going around the world that
people don't really know about. We've obviously got our Australian
Fashion Week, There's New Zealand Fashion Week in a couple
of weeks, there's Oslo. There's all these ones happening.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And suddenly I'm a bit about Dubai every now and then,
But maybe that's because I was researching a holiday thee
out of the Rhythm.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But it's funny that Copenhagen has really shot up and
is one to watch and it's got eyeballs on it
and I love it. I'm obsessed with Copenhagen every year.
I get excited pert spring summer in particular, and I
think it's two things that comes down to that make
it so special and interesting. Yes, one is they've got
this huge sustainability element. The CEO Cecilia ross Mark. She's
(05:12):
been in the role for maybe six years.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But CEO of the fashion week, CEO of Copenhagen Fashion
I don't think people really realize that these things are
business in and of themselves all year round.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Right Yeah. I think Copenhagen started in two thousand and six,
which is relatively new.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That is quite new.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So a lot of the other big ones Milan, Paris, whatnot,
they sort of started in the eighties nineties, so it's
a fresh Copenhagen Fashion Week anyway, Cecilia has been working
on sustainability and how brands are required to bring x
amount of well they need to be sustainable in order
to show at fashion week. And this isn't just like oh,
let's hope you can do it and tick a box.
(05:48):
You have to hit a minimum of eighteen requirements in
order to show, no way, So it's amazing. So it's
things like it's the whole production line, so whether it
be the materials they're using, sixty percent need to be
of sustainable or recycled working conditions. And then also the
show within itself, so no paper invitation. How are you
(06:10):
getting your garments to and from the show? There can't
be any plastic. There's zero waste at shows. So knowing
this and having this knowledge is quite interesting now watching
the shows. Yes, and I had no idea. Yeah, and
it's a really high bar, but Cecilia says it's not
meant to be high, that no one reaches it, that
change with sustainability comes from the top. It's her responsibility
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to bring these brands up and then they can move
forward together.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, and it's not like you say, just about slapping
a label on it, you know. I think there was
a fast fashion brand recently that was somehow be Corp
certified Fritz as poly Yeah, and you know, not everyone
can afford really high end things. But also there can
be affordability that's not at the cost of the environment
so much. And maybe we don't need super fast fashion
where things are six dollars and then therefore people are
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buying eight thousand of them. So I think she's right.
Leading by example should hopefully set a standard because we
see these fashion weeks trends trickle down to the high street.
If these standards for the environment and sustainability start up here.
Hopefully that will also trick down throughout the whole fashion industry.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's so true, So she's got a lot of eyeballs
on her. And brands also get brownie points or bonus
points for doing things like what's their cast diversity and
sizing diversity adaptive clothing, So what are they doing for
disabilities materials use? I know one brand's using seaweed and
turning it into a fiber, So hopefully other fashion weeks
can look at this.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Scany just always a miles ahead in everything like that
whole area just blows my mind and I want to
move there, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So that's one element of it. But then also what
makes Copenhagen Fashion Weeks so exciting and electric to watch
is obviously the street style.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's it for me. And it's funny because when I said,
you know, let's get you on to talk about Copenhagen
Fashion Week, I really meant street style. I mean, I
do like watching the runways and the designers and the shows,
but it's what the people are wearing outside that is
like a candy store for the eyes, and it feels
so different to all the other ones. Why do you
think we'd love looking at what people going to the
shows are wearing.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's so it's such an interesting point because who's going
to Copenhagen. It's actually fifty percent influencers compared to media
industry buyers, whereas usually it's around like seventy five percent
the industry. Right, So I think with so many more
influencers going who are there with the intention of getting photographed,
it's really interesting looks that are getting created that we're
(08:31):
now interested in.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, and I guess they're going and this is no
shaded influences and you and I both do content creation,
but they're going as that job, whereas I think, you know,
I've attended a bunch of overseas sashion weeks in Sydney
for many years, but I'm going less about what I'm
wearing and more functional to then run back and write
an article, you know, whether it's in the media pit
or I'm there to produce content for back when I
(08:54):
was at Cosmo. Now I'm Mum and Maya.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
But they're there.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
As them, and they are their content and they are
their channels. So I think the expression there is their work,
whereas when I've attended as media you know it will
come out in words on a website. So yeah, what
they wear is really important and therefore very different, very different.
I feel like it's the most varied street style that
I see.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think like the French Parisians have that how do
you say that gensiqua, The Danish girls have that it factor.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, it still feels effortless, but it's more fun, you know, joyful.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I think Scandinavian or Danish Copenhagen street style, whatever you
want to call it. I think a really good way
to sort of wrap your head around it is looking
at the Copenhagen Seas, which I was trying to tell
you earlier, but the Copenhagen Seas, So it starts with
that Scandinavian sleek cool level. So it's clean, crisp, chic,
it's mutual tones, it's base layers, just keeping it very like.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The silhouettes are quite simple or structured, like not fussy, right,
and not a lot of different clashing things. Ye, you
look at it and you absorb it all in one go.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Absolutely, and that's sort of what millennials know. I think
that's scandy cool, and that's even in interiors. Remember that
whole white walls gray. Everything's scandy cool.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You're so right, because it was all a bit minimal
and very chic and doesn't have to be expensive. But
it was clean, and that's what I would think of
as s candy style, both in fashion and in like
you say, home Weares. But that's definitely still around.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's still around, and we definitely see that at fashion Week,
but there is this other side where it's almost like
bulking and adding in different items that create this maximalism
or even quiet maximalism, which is almost like a gateway
into or experimenting with the maximalism trend.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, and maximalism, I mean, I love that term, but
sometimes for me it looks look Eclectic is definitely another
word that comes to mind. But sometimes it's just like
a big old mish mash of lots of things put
on somebody that I always think looks very cool.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Would I wear it?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
No? Would I even know where to start to layer
all those kind of unusual pairings. It's so different from
the scandy we first described, which was kind of clean silhouettes,
you know, really well made, structured or simple. Why do
you think it's gone so the other way? But both
still coexist.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think it's a more of a cultural shift in
people wanting to explore their unique individual style, so adding elements.
Maximalism's always been a style trend within itself, and like
you said, it is this mixed mass, chaotic harmony.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Really yeah, that's right, because they somehow get it right
most of the time.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And it kind of works. There's something about Copenhagen where
I find it doesn't feel as pretentious and this is me.
I've only been to Australian Fashion Week and this is
me just on the sidelines. In Australia, it doesn't feel
as pretentious. I watch every single fashion week and I
almost study it like it's a university degree. I feel
it's not as pretentious, and I think that's because people
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they are taking risks with their fashion, and if you're
in a room with other people taking risks, you're not
going to sort of judge them, as.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You feel more confident to wear something that's not, you know,
completely on trend or head to toe whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think they're just leaning into this is who we are.
We've sort of got a name for this maximalism style.
Let's do it, and let's do it well.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So now if people do it and are different that
it's not like whoa, what's that person wearing? Whereas I
think sometimes in Australia. I mean I think the last
fashion week that was in May, I did see a
lot more eclectic looks outside for Sydney street style than
I guess I have in previous years. But still there's
a wall factor, like I think you're looking and it's
a bit of eye candy, but it's also a lot
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to take in because we don't see that much variety
or that much individuality here, whereas there it feels like
they're at ease with it because individuality is the signature
or is the aim. Ye, what's the other seas? So
did we miss a sea?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So it was the three seas that make it that
scandy cool, But then it goes into like cool girl
color kitch even though that's okay, but clash, yes, and clever.
So it's just always remembering the opposites and sort of
the different ends of the spectrum with Copenhagen style and
that they can blend. There is spectrum. It's either super
clean ultra maximalism, and then there's that like in between
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that we see on the streets.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm going to aim for the in between. I definitely
can't be the maximalist, and I guess I am generally
the clean, but that's probably because I'm just a bit
boring and basic and in a.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Rush difficult, Like if you're so used to it, I
think a lot of us are us as millennials used
to like capsule wardrobe ten pieces.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Exactly, and now I'm like, wait, I do have a
sparkly dress, but well I wear it overdre that's outrageous.
We are going to dissect some photos in a minute
that we've picked some looks from street style that will dissect,
But do you want to just to give us an
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overall vibe of this street style that we've seen last week,
or some takeaway trends that you just kept in your
mind that have a name or that you can describe.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Some key from the street style. There's like we've been discussed,
but layering different materials and the fabrications and different styles.
So it's like the masculine oversized blazer with the lace
skirt underneath, Layering on top of layering. When you think
you've done, do two more. Like there's a lot of layering.
Accessories have been a huge standout on the runways, but
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also with the street style, and it sort of moves
into these really eclectic So if like you were saying, ly,
if you sort of want to maybe try maximalism, but
it's a bit scary. You can start with a bit
more of a clean palette with your wardrobe, but have
an outrageous accessory.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, but maybe just one to start with, just people
like maybe me, because I having a look at some
of the street style. It is three huge necklaces, earrings,
a hat, a dog bag, bag charms. It's a lot,
but for somehow it works for them. I don't even
own all those things. But I think just having one
statement accessory that's not your black bag, or putting two
together you wouldn't normally, maybe start that way.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And it is probably worth noting that it is slightly performative.
We see that Australian Fashion Week and here it's the
outrageous wardrobes that get photographed, yes, and that get spoken about. Yeah,
so yeah, I guess it's I wonder the intention isn't
there to wear that on the streets day to day?
Probably not, but yeah, we can get our own inspiration from.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, it's like that Koko Chanel quote like when you
look in the mirror and then take one thing off.
So I think it was her, but I think they're like,
look in the mirror and then add three more things
and then go, which I just think is fabulous. But
it's also about I think, giving yourself permission as a
regular person to wear what you want to wear and
not worrying if things like match or go you know,
or you know, if it's technically are pulled together out
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of fit, because somehow it just works.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, totally. So yeah, i'd say the layering, accessories, different fabrics,
so lots of Poko dots and I'm talking lots even
on the runway. There is so much like you think
a trend's gone, I've just.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Started, like because obviously Spring summer's dropping here and actually
I want you to join me for a Spring Summer
trend episode in a few weeks please, because I've started
to see poker everywhere here, so it's obviously started overseas
and still going.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, it's one of those things like we'd always say,
if it's sticks and sells, it stays. Yeah, so if
they're selling, they're going to.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Keep making it.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I literally just did a wardrobe clean out, and I'm
so glad because I've got a really cute poka dot dress,
but I was like, eh, so it's in the maybe pile.
It hasn't gone yet. And now after seeing all these picks,
I'm like, hang on, I'm going to get her out
and wear her with jeans and a dog bag or something.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I don't know. Speaking of dog bag, there was a
new Talent show on the second day. Her name was
Anne Sophie Matson, so new talent. Everyone was watching to
see what she'd come out with and produce, and a
lot of her looks were really beautiful and simple, classic silhouettes,
but she came up with these crazy metallic rat bags
and I quite like the play on words there rat
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bag yeah yeah, but these huge rats, like they looked
like toy rats. Yeah, and everyone was walking down the
wrung way with them, and it's clever, it's crazy. I
think it was one of those things like to get
eyeballs being new talent, but also it signifies where we're
going with sort of sculptural accessors.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, and playfulness and I think and not taking everything
so seriously. I mean, I think the everyday person is
not going to invest in a handbag that's the shape
of an animal. But I think it just is nice
to see something that's a little bit not too serious,
so true, you know, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I mean I just started following an instag Democrat and
they have this really cool it's like metal but quite
large fish clutch and it looks like a fish and
you open it up and I was like, I love
that and it's so weird and I would never purchase
it because of cost perware, but we're getting some personality
back totally.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, Okay, Yes, Polka dots, Tartan, lots of checks, checks,
lots ofs and head pieces so again this sounds head scarves,
but hats as well.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And like like I've seen these like beanie like hand crochet.
There was a lot of when I say Grandma vibes,
but it feels like that kind of old school handmade
knitted and there was a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, so kettle Attilia. It was all like dresses made
out of essentially doilies. It was these beautiful summer dresses
that looked yeah, made out of doilies, but it was gorgeous.
It really elegant, yeah, and almost combined like vintage and
sex ofhel Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And like you say, that's a clash of like that
masculine and feminine all pretty. I love it. So, Lucinda,
we're gonna flick through some pictures now. We're gonna put
a carousel up on Instagram so you can have a
play at home and look at the images we're talking about.
We've picked out some street style looks and that stay
sect them, what the trends are, what we think of them,
would we wear them? So Tartan was huge, and lots
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of Tartan.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Lots of Tartan in different styles as well. So the
picture where looking at she's wearing a skirt like a
mini skirt, which has this massive bow dropping down right
to the ankle. I should do a side note. Bows
were everywhere as well, Yes, Carol, addition, she showed on
the first date. It's actually her husband and wife duo.
Bows on the bags.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I love the dress.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
They were gorgeous. Here a Tartan miniskirt with this huge
bow on the.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Front, which kind of does speak to what you were
saying before about like the masculine and feminine like Tartan
is quite you know, it's not a particular. I guess
it depends on the item, but the bow is quite feminine,
but tartan can be not particularly masculine. But it's a
bit of a juxtaposition for sure. Yeah, And that top
is like kind of one of those sheer mesh she's wearing,
like a sheer mesh long sleeve top that we've seen
everywhere this autumn winter here. Yeah, with you know, a
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little barlette underneath. So that's really easy that lots of
people might have that at home and then can mix
and match it with something that they wouldn't have worn
it with this past season.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's actually such a good point ly, Like I love
this street style for Copenhagen because you can do it
with whatever you've got in your wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, go and just have a play and go. I
would never wear those things together and put it on
and see what.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Happens, and even saying I haven't worn that in twelve months,
so I'm going to pull this and do it with that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
So I think also because I fall into the trap
off I wear that top with those pants and you know,
maybe those three bottoms. But I rarely have the time
to get creative in my mind to go actually I
should try that with that that I haven't really thought of.
But it feels like these people are innate at just
pairing things that are unexpected. And she's also wearing fluffy fluffy.
It looks like our groups from here.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, like crazy shoes, which like goes to show, like
just different accessories, like having fun with accessories and letting
them do the loud talking.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, so totally. Whereas if she'd want like it, if
that's I can't tell if that's black or navy check,
but if she'd want a pump, that would have been
a lot more stylish in chic, but a lot less expressive.
And Copenhagen, if that makes.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Sense as well. With Copenhagen, everyone's in flats and.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Sneakers, yes, and Creach says me in heels, not like
and maybe the odd Kidden Hill.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, but I think it was Leandre Medeene who created
man Rafella. She said the Danish girls essentially made sneakers
with style and fashion cool. And when you think about
back in the day, we'd wear our assis to work
on the train, get changed and put your heels on.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Because they ride bikes everywhere. You got really ride bikes
in a stiletto.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It's you cut and we're dispounting that thing every day.
But yeah, it's seventy five of Copenhagen's citizens commute via
a bike. Imagine if we do that.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
No, I mean, I would not be here. I can
hear a squash smug on the road. But I love
so practical and it's still cool because for me, I'm like,
I'm doing something practical today. I can't wear fun clothes.
I have these versions of myself, but they are all
mushed into one. Yeah, let's look at the next one. Okay,
this to me speaks Copenhagen. This woman is wearing a
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long sleeve it looks like a silk satin long sleeve
top jeans or are they added as pants? That's not
a stripe? Is it?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's some don't We both don't have that glasses?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
No, I know, but it looks like jeans, slip flops,
a headscarf and then a big bag. So did I
say the sequence dress over the top? This is what
I think of when I think of a version of this.
But I also just not that I don't love her.
Look that's something I would never try. But I have
all of those elements separately in my wardrobe. What do
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you think of that?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I look at this and love it in context?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yes, in context is such an important point.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Would I wear that down the street of George Street,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Or in the country where you're from, that would get to.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Barrel High Street. But it's one of those examples where
she's probably got the shirt and jeans and shoes off.
You know, let's go out the door. Hang on a minute,
let's add three more pieces. Yeah, which is at Copenhagen Style,
but it works here. She's at fashion week. She looks great,
she looks confident.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I feel like last year's fashion Week there was a
lot of that kind of sequence shift dress with layering,
like I think, if you've got those, and again this
autumn winter we just had there was a lot of
sparkly skirts and a lot of sparkly dresses. So you
can absolutely still carry them over to this new season.
It might just be I mean, just wear them if
you love them, But otherwise it might be mixing and matching.
See that's quite a casual bag and a flat shoe,
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but it could be an evening dress.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And you can dissect bits from this, so headscars we're
seeing a lot of the headscars, that handmaid's towel vibe
of wearing out like this just waits ring somemer. This
is going to be everywhere. That mustard color as well.
So there's a brand. Day three of Copenhagen Fashion Week.
Two best friends created this brand called Alice, and they're
actually from Christiania. You know, the free town in Copenhagen.
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It's lawless, there's no laws. They've got their own electricity schooling.
They can sell the kind of vibe. Yes, so they
just run itself. Yeah, let's go. I don't know what
I want to do. It felt really scary, but it's
quite civilized, like they've got their own primary schools going
and it's just this way of living. But yeah, it's
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the brand's called Alice and it's two best friends from
this Christiania they've created. They showed fantasy Land but maybe.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
We don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And their color on the runway this year was that
beautiful mustard color. I love that color.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It was all, yeah, it feels like a cooler tan
than to me, like I do like a tan accessor
in a tan, but mustard just feels like a bit edgier,
but it's still sort of a neutral.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
One hundred percent agree it plays it's a safe exit
out of neutrals.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah. For me, it's a bright color, but it's safe.
I feel like everyone has versions of this in their
wardrobe that they just need to go and play dress up.
Like literally, reten you three or seven and go on play.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And I dare you to.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
We encourage you to actually try. We probably should, We
should do it. We say, what have we got next? Okay,
this is an image of three lovely ladies. They look
like they're having the best time. Do you think they're related?
I don't know. There's a lot to dissect here, so
make sure you check out the image on Instagram or
it's on your screen on YouTube. The lady on the left,
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so we'll start with, she's wearing a black Maxi skirt
I think or dress. It almost looks like a blue
Oxford shirt underneath, which we all have. Then a tweed jacket.
Then the next scarf that we're seeing worn as belts headscarves.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, what kind of shoe would that?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's like a hybrid. It's like a lace up ballet, like.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
The Mary Jane type.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, and then I love the woven printed bag that
she's kind of carrying like a basketbag. That's almost like,
I guess, beach style, but it doesn't look like a
beach bag.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
There.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
That's a lot I feel like that stuff we all
have versions of in our wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Because it's all relatively neutral colors. It's not too much.
Yea's practical. She looks great like I think.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I think she looks great. It's not something I would
ever wear and more to the point, ever think of doing,
which again inspires me to try different combinations. And nothing
there screams one individual trend that people might not already have.
They're all kind of classics, but just put together in
a weird way, a different way classic with a twist.
And then what have we got in the middle? Is
that a pedal pusherk.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
They are the capris and we did see them with
Opera Sport. They opened up Copenhagen Fashion Week day one.
They were having black capris everywhere, which I personally love,
but you're not a fan.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I like looking at them. I just it's not my
body type. And I know I did it the first time,
or the first time for me many years ago in
my early twenties. I like looking at them, but it's
not something I would seek out to purchase. But I
like a Bermuda short, which I guess it's a looser version,
you know, it's a long short above the knee, but
tight and cropped just under the knee. Not doing any favors.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, if you do like that trend, they're coming back.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
They're coming.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are you going to do it? Well, I say, I
love them. I've actually never tried any on. I love
the look of it.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Never saen ever for me. But then she's almost got
like a chanellesque tweed, that kind of candy pink, longer coat.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And that bubblegum pink they're calling it. That's really big. Interesting.
Actually the colors that she's wearing were really strong on
the runway, so the black and white as a base,
and then the bubblegum pink and then even the red
rosette that she's got.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, she's got like a little red brooch. It could
be Chanelle, could might not be. And it looks like
also a hairscarf, perhaps in a ponytail at the back. Again,
pretty classic items that are just kind of mismatched in
the course way.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That's a really nice way to describe it. I think
if they are quite classic sophisticated, Yeah, and playing with
different fabrications so that tweed just with the linen or whatever.
The cotton pants she's wearing.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, and then the Lovely Lady of the third Lady,
she is wearing balloon pants sort of that we're seeing
them everywhere in spring. That they've got the tie around
the ankle. From where I sit, they look like a
woven kind of ballet flat type loafer which I again
am seeing everywhere, knit vest, white shirt underneath. Interesting hat.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah. I don't tell exactly what the hat is, but
hat wear and hat hats, everything's on the head.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Do you think it's because it's cold there? Like I
don't wear hats unless I'm going to the beach.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And it's not like she's It hasn't got any sort
of brim, it's not some protection.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But it looks very cool. It's interesting. We had Eliza,
she's the head of content here at Mamma Mia, and
we'll put a link in the show notes that she
lived in Scandinavia and worked at Scandinavian Vogue for a
long time, and she said the number one thing that
she recommends for women to have in their wardrobe is
like a sleeveless knit vest like that that that's really
great for layering and can add personality to a peace
I don't own what, but again a classic that you
(28:05):
can have every season. Yeah, oh, talk to me about
this book, because I think this speaks to your first
point about the kind of clean lines that were used
to seeing.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And used to and still seeing.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
This lady is wearing a kind of very classic structured
blazer in a white or off white shade that sinks
in at the waist, and then a long white either
dress or maxiskirt that's kind of uneven hem but still
very clean silhouette overall.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And with playing in the blacks and the cream ivory whites.
So day three we saw school month and then opera
sport as well. Day one, they all focus so heavily
on these black and whites, which is sort of contradictory
to the whole maximalist style, but it goes back to
the origins of that scandy minimalist style dressing. Yeah, so
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it's still quite prevalent within the streets and it's what
consumers I guess are buying in Copenhagen.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, because she's got a black looks like an East
West bag or a bowler bag and a black shoe.
And for me, when I wear black and white together,
I feel like I look like a weight stuff. But
for some reason that's just so classic and simple but
not I don't know, it just works.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I know she looks beautiful, very elegant, very elegant. Yeah,
it was so school and month day three. Don't mind
my Danish pronunciation, but they were the beautiful almost like
feminine ethereal style runway shows showing all these beautiful whites
and the ivories. I love white and smock style tops
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as well, love beautiful girls like yeah, feminine lie would
be How are you okay? I'm oh good.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I hope that comes here. Okay, this image that you're
going to have to have a look at an instagram
it or do our best to describe it. For me,
this is the definition of maximalism, Liscinda, please help me
describe this. What are we seeing?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Okay, So she's wearing a maxi skirt with a long
sleep top. Let's start with the bottom. It's an orange
maxi skirt that's sort of been cut up and looks
like spaghetti yeah, it does.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It looks like just fringing, like ringing, you know, one
of those chimney dresses. Like, yeah, I don't know how
to explain.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It was a skirt. Yeah that Luckily the top onto
which we'll get to in a second, goes like it's
almost to the length of a mini skirt, so all
you're seeing is orange fringing on the bottom. Yes, And
then she's got this. It looks really cool, this embroidered. Yeah,
like long sleeve top, different colors.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's got like red, it's almost like Ken dome vibes.
Obviously I'm assuming it's not Kendon, but it's like Colbot
blue orange flowers. It could be a jacket. It almost
looks padded, but it's stripes, florals, splashes of blue, splashes
of red and black and yellow.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And it's big yellow hoops. Two or three necklaces, Yeah,
big necklaces, so chunky accessories.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And then her handbag looks like a Chuck super white,
which I love. But it's this big blue and white chicked.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And it's all block colors, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, so almost mean orange is in a primary color,
but it's very bright colors.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
And then the big hair as well. She's got this
gorgeous afro.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
And she's rocking it. But to me that I mean,
I love it. I again wouldn't wear it, but it
makes me feel so joyful to look at.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It's fun. It's clever as well.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, it is clever because it all ties in, doesn't
it does?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, it works.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We could talk about Copenhagen street stuff forever, but let's
finish with this image of three women on the street
because this is a lot of trends that I think
we're going to see here soon. So talk me through
what we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So we're seeing a lot of sporty sheep girls here.
It's agree with three girls. The one on the left
is wearing blue and white jersey, which we're seeing heaps.
I think this started New York Fashion Week with Loway. Yeah,
we've already been around a fair bit, right, and we're
seeing it here with beconbridge and cotton on. So she's
wearing that classic cotton rugby jersey that we're seeing everywhere,
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but she's got like a blue Oxford shirt underneath it.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I think I can do that. That's not really scary
for me.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, and it's blue on blue, so there's not too
much clashing going on. True. And then she's got these
dark gray cargo pants and then.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Blue crops almost like yeah longer yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And then blue socks with a black kidden here.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I love the socks.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I love the look of it, and I feel like
Australia is getting more into the like a sock with
a heel, a kitten heel. But I love the look
of it. But I wouldn't do it myself. But I
think she looks if she walked down the street in Sydney,
I'd be like cool. I wouldn't be like, whoa, that's
too much.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, you could do this. So it's just blue tying in.
If you've got a blue shirt and get a rugby
jersey over the top, some sort of short or pants,
socks and a heel.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That's true. OK, I'm going to try it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, sharing I love this look. It's really effe.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
And then the one on the right she's wearing at
US active wear shorts which we are seeing.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Everywhere, added US runner shorts, which is the short ones.
Or there's the trackie pants which we're used to, we're
so used to. Yeah, it was Zoe Cravis was seen
wearing these runner shorts by Additors, and it's sort of
just from there blue up. Yeah, it's everywhere. So she's
got the blue and navy runner shorts and then this
bright red bag, which I love, like a biget bag. Yeah,
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she's got socks on as well, but these ones go
just below the knees or high black sock.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So I think overall that look shows that you can mix,
you know, sporty pieces with more classics.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And maybe something to think about is pick a sport
that you like or resonate with. So you'd say the
girl on the right in the shorts, it's almost as
like soccer vibes with the shorts and then this long
socks whereas like the other one's got more of a
rugby s vibe.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
So that's you talking about your sporty leanings. Everything's just
sport for me, and I would only own sport things
if I was going to the gym or did sport,
whereas you want to categorize.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It into the type of sor.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
But on that we are, I'm going to see a
lot of this stuff coming to our Springs summer very soon,
if not now, So can you come back in a
few weeks and we'll translate some of these turns into
what we're about to wear.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, i'd love to Lee.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Thank you for joining me so much.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Thank you so much for joining me for Nothing to Wear,
And don't forget there's links in the show notes. You
can watch us over on YouTube if you've just been listening,
and if you were to join us on Instagram and
see the images we talked about today, our handle is
Nothing to Wear Pod.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
See you next week.
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