August 27, 2025 • 23 mins
On this weeks episode, we delve into all things astrology... so can your star sign predict your style? Leigh teams up with astrologer Natasha Weber to find out, covering the first six zodiac signs through a fashion lens. Tash breaks down the first six zodiac signs—from Aries' impatience with fiddly buttons to Virgo's perfectly coordinated (never matchy-matchy) wardrobe. Turns out your rising sign might be doing more styling work than you think! Tune in next week to get the rundown on all the other signs.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this
podcast is recorded on Hey you BEA's Lee here, I've
got a question for you. Do you believe in star signs?
Do you believe they're true? I'm often in two minds.
I recently had Natasha Webbar, better known as Astrotash on
Nothing to Wear and we chatted through about what your
(00:32):
star sign says about your wardrobe. It was very interesting
and for me, very true. So here's the first six
star signs of the zodiac. Have a listen. Do you relate?
Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Laurels for spraying groundbreaking?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh my god, you have to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You live for fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Air, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell,
and every week I chat to an expert who helps
us work out how to get more out of the
clothes we already own and tells us exactly what isn't
isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Now, this is going
to be fun. Depending on how you feel about star signs,
(01:16):
have you ever thought that your star sign could somehow
influence what you wear? Some people believe it, some people don't.
I'm somewhere in the middle. Let's see how I feel
at the end of this. So joining me for a
two parter is Natasha Webber, also known as Astrotash. She
has over twenty years experience in astrology. I've actually worked
with Tash before many moons Ago Get it at Cosmo.
(01:39):
We're going to take a fun approach to astrology and
use it through the lens of fashion to work out
what signs are typically wearing, what they don't wear. Are
they daring, are they tailored? Are they classic? Let's get
into it. Tash, Welcome to Nothing to Wear as an astrologist.
Have you ever done a fashion podcast before?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I never have, but I love a bit of fashion,
so I'm very happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm so excited and I just love looking at fashion
through all the different lenses, and astrology is such a
clever one to do. So before we break down each sign,
because we'll do six this week six on the next episode,
I just want to ask you some general questions. Sure,
how much does a star sign play into the fashion
choices that we make well, I think it.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Does, but in actual fact we're more likely to be
projecting our rising sign than our sun sign. I mean,
the sun sign represents our basic characters, so sure that
plays into it, but the rising sign is more about
how other people perceive us.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's like the cope that we wear. So for example, you're.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
More likely to guess someone's rising sign than you are
this sun sign because it's more.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
From what they're wearing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, from what they're wearing how they project themselves so much.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Wait, you're getting too far ahead already for me. So
the sun sign is your main one. So you're born
between this and this, you're that you're a virgo. Is
that your sun sign your main kind of label?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yes, So when someone says what's your sign, they're usually
referring to your sun sign. That refers to your birthday,
So there's the day in the month you were born.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But the rising sign is really time sensitive. So the rising.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Sign actually, in technical terms, is the sign that's rising
on the eastern horizon at your exact time of birth.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Wow, so that's more likely or that, I guess if
you're into this world, influences how you project outwards and
how people perceive you exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's also I mean, there's a lot more to it
than that. It's a sensitive point in the chart. So
when that's triggered by another transiting like planet in the
sky if you like, then that can have implications in
our life. It's particularly sensitive to our body and our
health as well and our relationships.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, okay, well I need I've had my very detailed
chart done. Once I've got to dig it out and
find my rising. But for now, I want to jump
into each star sign as they appear on the calendar.
Is an astrological calendar. I have no idea, but I
know that we start with me Aries because I've read
that and Aries is the least evolved this signs. So
(04:10):
we'll go in order, and I'd love for you to
tell me, well, I'll ask for each one, but i'd
love you to tell me kind of a little kind
of typical characteristics of that sign in general, and then
we'll talk a bit of fashion. So we'll start with Aries.
What's a typical Aries kind of known for I'd.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Say that Aries is a fire sign, so they're fiery,
they're enthusiastic, they can tend to rush into things that
often kind of give their heart away on a silver
platter a lot too quickly in a relationship if they're dating.
So that's something for aries to be my flop.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, yep, I can relate to a lot of that
interesting that you said impulsive or a word around that,
because for me, impulsive being an areas and shopping two
very close things.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, buyers regret to synonymous with aries.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, I call it retail therapy, but I just tell
myself it's therapy before I can have time to regret it.
So talk to me about, you know, dressing as an areas.
If you've seen any sort of common threads between the
areas that you observe and the way they put themselves
out into the world.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, it's interesting that you said that they're the least evolved.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I wouldn't sort of put it into.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Those words, but I would say that they're the first
sign of the zodiac, and this is why they've got
that sort of wide eyed, childlike enthusiasm. So being the
first sign, they're often trend setters. You know, they like
to set their own trends, they don't necessarily follow them,
and they kind of go for daring looks and they
(05:45):
do love the latest, newest collections and trends. Given that
they're the first sign of the zodiac, you know, first
in best dressed and all that, they're pretty confident, so
they're confident about their own fashion choices, and they tend
to have their own strong signature style. They love a
bold accessory and probably more into casual fashion hoodies. We're
(06:10):
talking street wear, maybe designer jeans and runners with a
bit of bulling race of backtops, but no fiddly clasps
or buttons, because I get super frustrated with that.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You know, it takes too much time to do us.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's so funny you say that, because obviously I can
only relate to one of these signs being an areas.
But I just bought some really cool sneakers, like honest
super Tigers. But that a slip on no laces because
I don't. I'm so impatient. I refuse to sit down
in winter and do laces up. So that is me
to a t that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's perfect, And an area's color.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think, you know, knowing the color of your sign
can be just something really simple to remember and that
might resonate, so that air is color is red and
deep red.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh yes, and it's everywhere that kind of wine merlo
Burgundy at the moment, that's very everywhere it is.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, I love it. That's beautiful Bordeaux color.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, I sing that right now, Heaven. All right, let's
move on to the next one. Taurus. So what are
some typical characteristics of a Taurean?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Taureans are they're an Earth signs, so they're super practical,
They're organized, They're kind of slow and dependable, so very
much the opposite to aries who rush into things. The
Taurus is going to think everything through. I'm thinking of
relationships right now. Taurus is not going to kind of
jump in there.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah. So I think that's a typical Taurus.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Slow, dependable, very loyal, very loving, and very affectionate.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes, of the Taurians, I know. I think loyal is
like the first word that comes to my head.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
All right, So talk to me about their sort of fashion,
you know, yes, ethos that die of Yeah, Like what
have you come across with Turreans and how they present
physically with what they wear?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay, So the colors the Taurus are pink and green,
that beautiful lush green.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Given they're an earth sign.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
They are sensible with their style and fashion choices, sensible
with the capital has so they'll go for practical items
that are maybe machine washable that they can get lots
of wear out of. They prefer comfortable clothing, especially in footwear,
so no restrictive body coom dresses or sky high stilettos,
(08:19):
that sort of thing. But they are still ruled by Venus,
you know, the planet of gorgeousness, and so they do
prefer quality over quantity or just quality fabrics, and really
less is more defines Taurus' ascetic. No busy patterns, and
I think, you know, being so organized. They love like
(08:42):
the walking wardrobe and it'll be all color coordinating.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, it's so organized. It's not a chaos with everything
on the floor like mine. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So dressing for them, though, is a real sensory experience,
So how a garment feels against their skin.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Is really important.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And they love like a simple, well tailored, understated, beautiful
ascetic and they prefer in terms of color, subdued.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Earthy tons.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah. It's weird that everything he described and I felt
like all my stylish friends in Melbourne, I was like,
I wonder if they're Toreine. I've got to text them,
but yes, they're going that's me.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, So Gemini, I want to talk about the typical
characteristics of this sign now because I don't know too much,
but I just know there's two sides or two faces,
or I've heard bad things about Gemini, said, what are
they generally like?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's a really misunderstood sign.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So Gemini is symbolized by the twins and the mythology
around this, the twins Castor and Pollox, who were so
devoted to each other, the mortal twin passed away and
the immortal one was honored in the constellation to be
with his twin brother.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Ah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, it's a beautiful story.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So the symbolism here is the duality and how well
the duality works together. So sure Gemini might experience, you know,
have two different jobs in their lifetime. They might be
even torn between two different loves or have two major
love affairs in their life, but it's not necessarily too faced. Okay,
(10:28):
that is a bit of a misconception there. Okay, So
they're really good at juggling things and multitasking. They're also
ruled by Mercury the planet of communication, so they are
the master communicators of the Zodiac. They're often found in broadcasting, radio, TV.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
They're super clever.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Wow, and what do they fire? Earth? Water? Wind? Hang on?
Was that Captain planet? You know what I mean? Which one?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So Gemini's are an air sign, So air signs tend
to be very cerebral.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
They function on a mental level.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So if you want to get to a Gemini's heart,
you've got to do it through their mind.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh my gosh. So they're quite logical, like not really
ruled by their heart.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They can they can come off as a bit cold
and flighty. They don't like to be pinned down either.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So, yeah, I'm a Gemini, just saying you are? Well?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Can you tell I was like my husband, my brother?
Don't yep? That gap? Yeah? Yeah, Talk to me about
Gemini's fashion choices. What are we seeing there?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
All right? So colors for a Gemini yellow and orange.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Super playful, colorful and bit adventurous with their fashion choices.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
They don't take fashion too seriously.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They like to experiment with different looks and labels, you know,
from everything.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
From high end to grunge cheek.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
They get bored with the same look, so they do
tend to kind of chop and change. You can never
kind of figure out a Gemini style really, and they
tend to dress more youthful than their years. They're known
as the peter Pan of the Zodiac. Have this sense
of curiosity about them and that extends into their fashion choices.
(12:08):
I think they of flirty frills and ruffles sometimes provided
they're flattering, and of course, you know, we have to
go there.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
They do love a twin set.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I was gonna ask. I was like, you know it,
does everything need to be symmetrical? You know, like do
they not like you know, well, I don't like strangeems,
you know, when it's asymmetrical hems. But when we were
saying the kind of the twin thing, I was like,
I wonder if there's symmetry is important to them.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Well, it's interesting you should say that. I think that's
more a liberum thing because liberate is the size of
the scale, so asymmetry throws.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Them right off.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, we're going to get to that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Okay, Gemini. Gemini is a bit of a chameleon. So
Geminis do love things like the dress that you can
wear as a halter, but also converts to a strap list.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yes, yeah, and that goes back to them getting a
bit bored and wanting to change it up. But it's
that's a clever thing to buy if it's you know,
versatile exactly. Wow, this is so fascinating. All right, cancer,
tell me about cancer. What's typical for them? I think
of homebodies that are really they've got big hearts and
they'll be quiet. I don't know if that's true, but
it's typical of a cancer.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That's absolutely spot on.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So cancer is the sign of the divine, feminine, the mother,
and it shows in our charts because we all have
we all have all zodiac signs our charts, by the way.
So cancer is about how we give and receive nurturing.
It's a very emotional sign. And they are ruled by
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the moon, so they're highly attuned to the moon's phases.
So when there's a full moon, a cancerrium will always
feel it in their waters.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Thank you for making so much of my life makes sense.
That's so interesting. You know how they are, you know,
stereotypically quite you know, soften emotions and yeah, do they
have a toughness to them or you know, is there.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Actually they do, because there's still a cardinal sign. So
you know, I'm talking a lot about the fire, earth, air,
and water signs. But there's another side to every zodiac
sign that is called their modality. So every zodiac sign
will either all on to the cardinal fixed or mutable groups,
and that also it just influences the qualities, the personalities,
(14:18):
the characteristics of that sign.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So cancer is a cardinal sign.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
So despite its softness and its nurturing qualities and its compassion,
it actually has a bit of grit to it. Cancerrians
have an inner strength. The thing with Cancerrians is they
don't really project that on the outside, but it's there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So don't like a quiet, confident yes, yes, so much fun.
All right, talk to me about cancer and clothes. What
have you got for me for that sign?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So of course the colors are going to be white
and silvery like the moon.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Their fashion sense reflects their.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Mood and emotions, so you know, if they're feeling a
bit down in the dumps, they might want to just
hang out in their tracking.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
That's what I had in my head for cancer. Sorry,
I just I was like their homebody. So they only
wear traxits. You know, how narrow is that? But I
did I wonder if it's that literal.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Sometimes look absolutely and sometimes astrology can really be that literal.
So yes, and I did forget to say, but you
said it yourself so beautifully. They are the domestic goddesses
of the zodiac. They love their home and families everything
to cancers.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So okay. So back to their mood their emotions.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know, they're kind of maybe feeling a bit down
in the trackies and just want that sort of comfort,
comfortable clothes. But then they can glam up quite beautifully
as well. I think using color to balance their mood
is a really great idea for cancers, particularly if they're
looking to balance their chakras. You know, they might go
for a deep red to balance their base charkra, which
(15:52):
is all about money and security. If they're wanting to
heal their heart. Green can be beautiful for them to use.
But they have got a shy, conservative personality, so they
tend to play it safe with their fashion choices. And
although they have that inner greet and strength, they are
also prone to insecurities, so they tend to dress to
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conceal their perceived flaws.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Right, So a little bit on the safe side, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Exactly, and they have to be feeling confident in their
own skin to wear anything daring. Okay, there's a little
bit out of character. So they tend to go for
the classics, you know, romantic pretty styles. It's like polished
pencil skirts, slowy maxis.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, and maybe like a classic trench like something that's
kind of yes, absolutely, it doesn't say too much, you know, although.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's Cancerien's a little bit more romantic. So yeah, something
with a little bit more prettiness.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I know exactly what you mean. It's kind of a
feminine edge.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, feminine edge, but still conservative, you know, the sweetheart
neckline instead of the plunging neckline.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yes, yeah, this is great. Oh my god, I'm having
so much one Leo talk to me about about Leo
the Lion.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh I love my Leos. Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So Leo's are so fabulous. They are, you know, they're
very out there. They command attention, although there are the
shy type of Leo's as well. Because Leo's theme in
their life is confidence. But it may be that they
have to develop that confidence in life. They're not necessarily always.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Born with it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's really important another of mister understood sign. Yes, but
yes they are fabulous.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Are they a fire sign as well? There are, they're
a fire sign.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, so beautiful with aries and sagittariums.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Okay, so yeah, I think lion. I think not scary,
but yeah, I think the typical stuff that we're just saying.
Then you said that they misunderstood that They're not always
born with that confidence. So you know, typically when we
come across someone that's a Leo, but we don't really know.
You know that it's more complex than just that kind
of one liner, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I mean, and horoscopes and star signs have you know,
definitely attracted stereotypical interpretations. Yes, when you look further into it,
you understand the nuance.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Okay, and that's my job.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
But another interesting thing about leo is that it is
the sign of creativity and children. When you think about it,
creating children is the ultimate creative thing.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Isn't a creation from Yes? From above?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah that's so cool? All right?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Leo?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
What are they wearing? What do you see them wearing?
What don't they like wearing?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
So their color, of course is gold, gold, gold, gold,
The beautiful Leos. They can turn a casual dress code
into glamour.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
They are the royal sign.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
So they tend to look aristocratic even on a shoe
string budget. They generally do love dressing up, attracting attention
with their fashion choices. But as I mentioned before, those
shy leohs, they may not be prone to doing that
on purpose, but they always still make an impression or
an entrance. It might be their natural mane of gorgeous
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hair or just the way they kind of strut into
the room. They can't help but attract attention, and they
do have a flair for drama, so they do love
a statement piece of jewelry, maybe a sparkly hair accessory.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
The more blowing the better.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And they're again like the Ares, they're not afraid to
set the trends, their leaders rather than being followers.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Okay, oh my gosh, this is so much fun to
listen to you and filter through your friends and your
family and think, yes, oh my gosh, yeah, all right,
we're going to do Virgo now. But then I'm going
to ask you to come back for part two because
there's just so much to get into. But let's finish
these not top six the first six with a Virgo.
What is a Virgo all about in general when it
comes to that sign.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I mean when I do, my heart goes out
to Virgos.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I have a lot of respect for Virgos because they
are so precise. They're hard working another Earth sign, practical
down to Earth, and they have an amazing eye for detail.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I was going to ask, when I think Virgo, I
think really well organized, beautiful looking wardrobe, but they clean
out regularly.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Oh, yes, they hate I think you really do know you.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I know my friends that I'm very invested in, but
I try and sometimes make sense off through their star sign.
But yeah, is that kind of you know, Virgos has
thought to be sort of very love cleanliness and order.
Is that true?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yes, cleanliness is next to godliness in Virgo's eyes. Yeah,
So they hate anything kind of messy, disorganized, and they
are really into hygiene. So if you're dating a Virgo,
make sure you always smell clean.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's important.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's so funny, all right, So how does that translate
into a yes, Well, you can probably talk about the
bit of how organized their wardrobe is, but what about
what they wear?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
All right?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
So the colors that I'm going to pick for Virgo
would be a beautiful olive.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Green and warm caramel.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
And as you said, Lee, they dress impeccably well. They're
always well turned out, but they're all about understated elegance,
ladylike styles, those earthy tones, no loud shades, and everything
always works, from the shoes, the bag, you know, with
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the outfit, but not in a matchy matchy way.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
They do it so elegantly.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
As I said before, they hate the mess so no
messy buns or thrown together looks.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
They're more clean cut, very polished.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
They have an eye for intricate detailing, so beautiful buttons,
silk pocket squares for the men. Yeah, but they can
be really fussy and really super self critical.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's what I was going to ask you, because you
started by saying my heart goes out to them, but
then when you just describe that, I was like, oh,
that's my goals. I want to be that person. But
is it at the cost of you know, a lot
of labor behind the scenes. In general, from the outside
they look so organized, but you know, maybe that comes
with some sort of turmoil.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It does because they are the quintessential perfectionist and this
can you know this can turn against them. So what
I meant by having so much respect for them is
that there is such a perfectionist that they really do
everything so very well.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
They go to the nth degree.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Near enough is not good enough for a Virgo, and
I kind of respect that, yes, but at the same time,
this perfectionism can really turn against them. And if we're
looking at things, you know, through a fashion lens or
through an aesthetic lens, then they can spend a lot
of time picking themselves apart in the mirror and critiquing
(23:04):
their flaws, which.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Is obviously not healthy. Yes, so love your self, love
your flaws.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
If you're a Virgo, you're a beautiful love yourself Virgo, well,
all of you, but particularly and maybe give some extra
love to the Virgos in your life if they might
be going through that. Tash. This is so fascinating. We've
got six more signs to go, so will you come
back for part two because I want to hear about
the rest of all of our friends and family.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I would absolutely love too.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Thank you, brilliant, Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear.
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So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this
podcast is recorded on Hey you BEA's Lee here, I've
got a question for you. Do you believe in star signs?
Do you believe they're true? I'm often in two minds.
I recently had Natasha Webbar, better known as Astrotash on
Nothing to Wear and we chatted through about what your
(00:32):
star sign says about your wardrobe. It was very interesting
and for me, very true. So here's the first six
star signs of the zodiac. Have a listen. Do you relate?
Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Laurels for spraying groundbreaking?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh my god, you have to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You live for fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Air, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell,
and every week I chat to an expert who helps
us work out how to get more out of the
clothes we already own and tells us exactly what isn't
isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Now, this is going
to be fun. Depending on how you feel about star signs,
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have you ever thought that your star sign could somehow
influence what you wear? Some people believe it, some people don't.
I'm somewhere in the middle. Let's see how I feel
at the end of this. So joining me for a
two parter is Natasha Webber, also known as Astrotash. She
has over twenty years experience in astrology. I've actually worked
with Tash before many moons Ago Get it at Cosmo.
(01:39):
We're going to take a fun approach to astrology and
use it through the lens of fashion to work out
what signs are typically wearing, what they don't wear. Are
they daring, are they tailored? Are they classic? Let's get
into it. Tash, Welcome to Nothing to Wear as an astrologist.
Have you ever done a fashion podcast before?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I never have, but I love a bit of fashion,
so I'm very happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm so excited and I just love looking at fashion
through all the different lenses, and astrology is such a
clever one to do. So before we break down each sign,
because we'll do six this week six on the next episode,
I just want to ask you some general questions. Sure,
how much does a star sign play into the fashion
choices that we make well, I think it.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Does, but in actual fact we're more likely to be
projecting our rising sign than our sun sign. I mean,
the sun sign represents our basic characters, so sure that
plays into it, but the rising sign is more about
how other people perceive us.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's like the cope that we wear. So for example, you're.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
More likely to guess someone's rising sign than you are
this sun sign because it's more.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
From what they're wearing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, from what they're wearing how they project themselves so much.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Wait, you're getting too far ahead already for me. So
the sun sign is your main one. So you're born
between this and this, you're that you're a virgo. Is
that your sun sign your main kind of label?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yes, So when someone says what's your sign, they're usually
referring to your sun sign. That refers to your birthday,
So there's the day in the month you were born.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But the rising sign is really time sensitive. So the rising.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Sign actually, in technical terms, is the sign that's rising
on the eastern horizon at your exact time of birth.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Wow, so that's more likely or that, I guess if
you're into this world, influences how you project outwards and
how people perceive you exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's also I mean, there's a lot more to it
than that. It's a sensitive point in the chart. So
when that's triggered by another transiting like planet in the
sky if you like, then that can have implications in
our life. It's particularly sensitive to our body and our
health as well and our relationships.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, okay, well I need I've had my very detailed
chart done. Once I've got to dig it out and
find my rising. But for now, I want to jump
into each star sign as they appear on the calendar.
Is an astrological calendar. I have no idea, but I
know that we start with me Aries because I've read
that and Aries is the least evolved this signs. So
(04:10):
we'll go in order, and I'd love for you to
tell me, well, I'll ask for each one, but i'd
love you to tell me kind of a little kind
of typical characteristics of that sign in general, and then
we'll talk a bit of fashion. So we'll start with Aries.
What's a typical Aries kind of known for I'd.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Say that Aries is a fire sign, so they're fiery,
they're enthusiastic, they can tend to rush into things that
often kind of give their heart away on a silver
platter a lot too quickly in a relationship if they're dating.
So that's something for aries to be my flop.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, yep, I can relate to a lot of that
interesting that you said impulsive or a word around that,
because for me, impulsive being an areas and shopping two
very close things.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, buyers regret to synonymous with aries.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, I call it retail therapy, but I just tell
myself it's therapy before I can have time to regret it.
So talk to me about, you know, dressing as an areas.
If you've seen any sort of common threads between the
areas that you observe and the way they put themselves
out into the world.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, it's interesting that you said that they're the least evolved.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I wouldn't sort of put it into.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Those words, but I would say that they're the first
sign of the zodiac, and this is why they've got
that sort of wide eyed, childlike enthusiasm. So being the
first sign, they're often trend setters. You know, they like
to set their own trends, they don't necessarily follow them,
and they kind of go for daring looks and they
(05:45):
do love the latest, newest collections and trends. Given that
they're the first sign of the zodiac, you know, first
in best dressed and all that, they're pretty confident, so
they're confident about their own fashion choices, and they tend
to have their own strong signature style. They love a
bold accessory and probably more into casual fashion hoodies. We're
(06:10):
talking street wear, maybe designer jeans and runners with a
bit of bulling race of backtops, but no fiddly clasps
or buttons, because I get super frustrated with that.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You know, it takes too much time to do us.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's so funny you say that, because obviously I can
only relate to one of these signs being an areas.
But I just bought some really cool sneakers, like honest
super Tigers. But that a slip on no laces because
I don't. I'm so impatient. I refuse to sit down
in winter and do laces up. So that is me
to a t that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's perfect, And an area's color.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think, you know, knowing the color of your sign
can be just something really simple to remember and that
might resonate, so that air is color is red and
deep red.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh yes, and it's everywhere that kind of wine merlo
Burgundy at the moment, that's very everywhere it is.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, I love it. That's beautiful Bordeaux color.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, I sing that right now, Heaven. All right, let's
move on to the next one. Taurus. So what are
some typical characteristics of a Taurean?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Taureans are they're an Earth signs, so they're super practical,
They're organized, They're kind of slow and dependable, so very
much the opposite to aries who rush into things. The
Taurus is going to think everything through. I'm thinking of
relationships right now. Taurus is not going to kind of
jump in there.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah. So I think that's a typical Taurus.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Slow, dependable, very loyal, very loving, and very affectionate.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes, of the Taurians, I know. I think loyal is
like the first word that comes to my head.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
All right, So talk to me about their sort of fashion,
you know, yes, ethos that die of Yeah, Like what
have you come across with Turreans and how they present
physically with what they wear?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay, So the colors the Taurus are pink and green,
that beautiful lush green.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Given they're an earth sign.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
They are sensible with their style and fashion choices, sensible
with the capital has so they'll go for practical items
that are maybe machine washable that they can get lots
of wear out of. They prefer comfortable clothing, especially in footwear,
so no restrictive body coom dresses or sky high stilettos,
(08:19):
that sort of thing. But they are still ruled by Venus,
you know, the planet of gorgeousness, and so they do
prefer quality over quantity or just quality fabrics, and really
less is more defines Taurus' ascetic. No busy patterns, and
I think, you know, being so organized. They love like
(08:42):
the walking wardrobe and it'll be all color coordinating.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, it's so organized. It's not a chaos with everything
on the floor like mine. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So dressing for them, though, is a real sensory experience,
So how a garment feels against their skin.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Is really important.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And they love like a simple, well tailored, understated, beautiful
ascetic and they prefer in terms of color, subdued.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Earthy tons.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah. It's weird that everything he described and I felt
like all my stylish friends in Melbourne, I was like,
I wonder if they're Toreine. I've got to text them,
but yes, they're going that's me.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, So Gemini, I want to talk about the typical
characteristics of this sign now because I don't know too much,
but I just know there's two sides or two faces,
or I've heard bad things about Gemini, said, what are
they generally like?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's a really misunderstood sign.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So Gemini is symbolized by the twins and the mythology
around this, the twins Castor and Pollox, who were so
devoted to each other, the mortal twin passed away and
the immortal one was honored in the constellation to be
with his twin brother.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Ah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, it's a beautiful story.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So the symbolism here is the duality and how well
the duality works together. So sure Gemini might experience, you know,
have two different jobs in their lifetime. They might be
even torn between two different loves or have two major
love affairs in their life, but it's not necessarily too faced. Okay,
(10:28):
that is a bit of a misconception there. Okay, So
they're really good at juggling things and multitasking. They're also
ruled by Mercury the planet of communication, so they are
the master communicators of the Zodiac. They're often found in broadcasting, radio, TV.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
They're super clever.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Wow, and what do they fire? Earth? Water? Wind? Hang on?
Was that Captain planet? You know what I mean? Which one?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So Gemini's are an air sign, So air signs tend
to be very cerebral.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
They function on a mental level.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So if you want to get to a Gemini's heart,
you've got to do it through their mind.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh my gosh. So they're quite logical, like not really
ruled by their heart.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They can they can come off as a bit cold
and flighty. They don't like to be pinned down either.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So, yeah, I'm a Gemini, just saying you are? Well?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Can you tell I was like my husband, my brother?
Don't yep? That gap? Yeah? Yeah, Talk to me about
Gemini's fashion choices. What are we seeing there?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
All right? So colors for a Gemini yellow and orange.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Super playful, colorful and bit adventurous with their fashion choices.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
They don't take fashion too seriously.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They like to experiment with different looks and labels, you know,
from everything.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
From high end to grunge cheek.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
They get bored with the same look, so they do
tend to kind of chop and change. You can never
kind of figure out a Gemini style really, and they
tend to dress more youthful than their years. They're known
as the peter Pan of the Zodiac. Have this sense
of curiosity about them and that extends into their fashion choices.
(12:08):
I think they of flirty frills and ruffles sometimes provided
they're flattering, and of course, you know, we have to
go there.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
They do love a twin set.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I was gonna ask. I was like, you know it,
does everything need to be symmetrical? You know, like do
they not like you know, well, I don't like strangeems,
you know, when it's asymmetrical hems. But when we were
saying the kind of the twin thing, I was like,
I wonder if there's symmetry is important to them.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Well, it's interesting you should say that. I think that's
more a liberum thing because liberate is the size of
the scale, so asymmetry throws.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Them right off.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, we're going to get to that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Okay, Gemini. Gemini is a bit of a chameleon. So
Geminis do love things like the dress that you can
wear as a halter, but also converts to a strap list.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yes, yeah, and that goes back to them getting a
bit bored and wanting to change it up. But it's
that's a clever thing to buy if it's you know,
versatile exactly. Wow, this is so fascinating. All right, cancer,
tell me about cancer. What's typical for them? I think
of homebodies that are really they've got big hearts and
they'll be quiet. I don't know if that's true, but
it's typical of a cancer.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That's absolutely spot on.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So cancer is the sign of the divine, feminine, the mother,
and it shows in our charts because we all have
we all have all zodiac signs our charts, by the way.
So cancer is about how we give and receive nurturing.
It's a very emotional sign. And they are ruled by
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the moon, so they're highly attuned to the moon's phases.
So when there's a full moon, a cancerrium will always
feel it in their waters.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Thank you for making so much of my life makes sense.
That's so interesting. You know how they are, you know,
stereotypically quite you know, soften emotions and yeah, do they
have a toughness to them or you know, is there.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Actually they do, because there's still a cardinal sign. So
you know, I'm talking a lot about the fire, earth, air,
and water signs. But there's another side to every zodiac
sign that is called their modality. So every zodiac sign
will either all on to the cardinal fixed or mutable groups,
and that also it just influences the qualities, the personalities,
(14:18):
the characteristics of that sign.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So cancer is a cardinal sign.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
So despite its softness and its nurturing qualities and its compassion,
it actually has a bit of grit to it. Cancerrians
have an inner strength. The thing with Cancerrians is they
don't really project that on the outside, but it's there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So don't like a quiet, confident yes, yes, so much fun.
All right, talk to me about cancer and clothes. What
have you got for me for that sign?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So of course the colors are going to be white
and silvery like the moon.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Their fashion sense reflects their.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Mood and emotions, so you know, if they're feeling a
bit down in the dumps, they might want to just
hang out in their tracking.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
That's what I had in my head for cancer. Sorry,
I just I was like their homebody. So they only
wear traxits. You know, how narrow is that? But I
did I wonder if it's that literal.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Sometimes look absolutely and sometimes astrology can really be that literal.
So yes, and I did forget to say, but you
said it yourself so beautifully. They are the domestic goddesses
of the zodiac. They love their home and families everything
to cancers.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So okay. So back to their mood their emotions.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know, they're kind of maybe feeling a bit down
in the trackies and just want that sort of comfort,
comfortable clothes. But then they can glam up quite beautifully
as well. I think using color to balance their mood
is a really great idea for cancers, particularly if they're
looking to balance their chakras. You know, they might go
for a deep red to balance their base charkra, which
(15:52):
is all about money and security. If they're wanting to
heal their heart. Green can be beautiful for them to use.
But they have got a shy, conservative personality, so they
tend to play it safe with their fashion choices. And
although they have that inner greet and strength, they are
also prone to insecurities, so they tend to dress to
(16:16):
conceal their perceived flaws.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Right, So a little bit on the safe side, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Exactly, and they have to be feeling confident in their
own skin to wear anything daring. Okay, there's a little
bit out of character. So they tend to go for
the classics, you know, romantic pretty styles. It's like polished
pencil skirts, slowy maxis.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, and maybe like a classic trench like something that's
kind of yes, absolutely, it doesn't say too much, you know, although.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's Cancerien's a little bit more romantic. So yeah, something
with a little bit more prettiness.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I know exactly what you mean. It's kind of a
feminine edge.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, feminine edge, but still conservative, you know, the sweetheart
neckline instead of the plunging neckline.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yes, yeah, this is great. Oh my god, I'm having
so much one Leo talk to me about about Leo
the Lion.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh I love my Leos. Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So Leo's are so fabulous. They are, you know, they're
very out there. They command attention, although there are the
shy type of Leo's as well. Because Leo's theme in
their life is confidence. But it may be that they
have to develop that confidence in life. They're not necessarily always.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Born with it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's really important another of mister understood sign. Yes, but
yes they are fabulous.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Are they a fire sign as well? There are, they're
a fire sign.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, so beautiful with aries and sagittariums.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Okay, so yeah, I think lion. I think not scary,
but yeah, I think the typical stuff that we're just saying.
Then you said that they misunderstood that They're not always
born with that confidence. So you know, typically when we
come across someone that's a Leo, but we don't really know.
You know that it's more complex than just that kind
of one liner, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I mean, and horoscopes and star signs have you know,
definitely attracted stereotypical interpretations. Yes, when you look further into it,
you understand the nuance.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Okay, and that's my job.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
But another interesting thing about leo is that it is
the sign of creativity and children. When you think about it,
creating children is the ultimate creative thing.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Isn't a creation from Yes? From above?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah that's so cool? All right?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Leo?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
What are they wearing? What do you see them wearing?
What don't they like wearing?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
So their color, of course is gold, gold, gold, gold,
The beautiful Leos. They can turn a casual dress code
into glamour.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
They are the royal sign.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
So they tend to look aristocratic even on a shoe
string budget. They generally do love dressing up, attracting attention
with their fashion choices. But as I mentioned before, those
shy leohs, they may not be prone to doing that
on purpose, but they always still make an impression or
an entrance. It might be their natural mane of gorgeous
(19:25):
hair or just the way they kind of strut into
the room. They can't help but attract attention, and they
do have a flair for drama, so they do love
a statement piece of jewelry, maybe a sparkly hair accessory.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
The more blowing the better.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And they're again like the Ares, they're not afraid to
set the trends, their leaders rather than being followers.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Okay, oh my gosh, this is so much fun to
listen to you and filter through your friends and your
family and think, yes, oh my gosh, yeah, all right,
we're going to do Virgo now. But then I'm going
to ask you to come back for part two because
there's just so much to get into. But let's finish
these not top six the first six with a Virgo.
What is a Virgo all about in general when it
comes to that sign.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I mean when I do, my heart goes out
to Virgos.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I have a lot of respect for Virgos because they
are so precise. They're hard working another Earth sign, practical
down to Earth, and they have an amazing eye for detail.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I was going to ask, when I think Virgo, I
think really well organized, beautiful looking wardrobe, but they clean
out regularly.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Oh, yes, they hate I think you really do know you.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I know my friends that I'm very invested in, but
I try and sometimes make sense off through their star sign.
But yeah, is that kind of you know, Virgos has
thought to be sort of very love cleanliness and order.
Is that true?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yes, cleanliness is next to godliness in Virgo's eyes. Yeah,
So they hate anything kind of messy, disorganized, and they
are really into hygiene. So if you're dating a Virgo,
make sure you always smell clean.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's important.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's so funny, all right, So how does that translate
into a yes, Well, you can probably talk about the
bit of how organized their wardrobe is, but what about
what they wear?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
All right?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
So the colors that I'm going to pick for Virgo
would be a beautiful olive.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Green and warm caramel.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
And as you said, Lee, they dress impeccably well. They're
always well turned out, but they're all about understated elegance,
ladylike styles, those earthy tones, no loud shades, and everything
always works, from the shoes, the bag, you know, with
(21:45):
the outfit, but not in a matchy matchy way.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
They do it so elegantly.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
As I said before, they hate the mess so no
messy buns or thrown together looks.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
They're more clean cut, very polished.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
They have an eye for intricate detailing, so beautiful buttons,
silk pocket squares for the men. Yeah, but they can
be really fussy and really super self critical.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's what I was going to ask you, because you
started by saying my heart goes out to them, but
then when you just describe that, I was like, oh,
that's my goals. I want to be that person. But
is it at the cost of you know, a lot
of labor behind the scenes. In general, from the outside
they look so organized, but you know, maybe that comes
with some sort of turmoil.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It does because they are the quintessential perfectionist and this
can you know this can turn against them. So what
I meant by having so much respect for them is
that there is such a perfectionist that they really do
everything so very well.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
They go to the nth degree.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Near enough is not good enough for a Virgo, and
I kind of respect that, yes, but at the same time,
this perfectionism can really turn against them. And if we're
looking at things, you know, through a fashion lens or
through an aesthetic lens, then they can spend a lot
of time picking themselves apart in the mirror and critiquing
(23:04):
their flaws, which.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Is obviously not healthy. Yes, so love your self, love
your flaws.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
If you're a Virgo, you're a beautiful love yourself Virgo, well,
all of you, but particularly and maybe give some extra
love to the Virgos in your life if they might
be going through that. Tash. This is so fascinating. We've
got six more signs to go, so will you come
back for part two because I want to hear about
the rest of all of our friends and family.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I would absolutely love too.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Thank you, brilliant, Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear.
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.