January 12, 2025 • 17 mins
Today, we’re diving into a question from a curious Youbie: which animal products might actually be in your skincare, and how do cruelty-free and vegan labels really stack up?
Plus, if sunscreen hasn’t always been your best friend, you might be facing skin damage. We're sharing out top tips and must-try products to hydrate, firm, and bring your skin back to life.
LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
COSRX Advanced Snail 96 Mucin Power Essence $38
Intimia Breast Pillow for Chest Wrinkles and Side Sleeping $139
Wrinkles Schminkles Chest Smoothing Kit $44
Weleda Skin Food $17.50
Nivea Creme Tin Moisturiser For Face & Body $5
Good Molecules Discoloration Correcting Serum $29
Kojic Acid Triple Booster Skin Brightening Body Lotion $28
Nivea Pure Invisible Antiperspirant Roll On Deodorant $2.50
Mitchum Clinical Gel 48h Powder Fresh Antiperspirant & Deodorant $10
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
On Makeup is My Therapy Love. I'm obsessed and I
don't even feel guilty a body.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello and welcome to Pity, the Daily Podcast for your Faith.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Keilly McCarron, and it's twenty twenty
five bibars.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Twenty twenty five. Wow, the actual world.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Our break is over.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We are refreshed somewhatch.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We are definitely ready to get back into you beauty
this year because we love what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We absolutely love what we do, and it is a
joy to be sitting here across from you yet again.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And you have beautiful, juicy lips. So I'm just gonna
put some lip balm on while you tell people what
we do on Mondays.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You ask plenty questions.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
If you're new here, welcome on Mondays as always. Can
we answer your beauty questions or even just beauty adjacent Really,
if you have a beauty question, you can pop it
on the Facebook group. If you're not there, please come
and join us says over how many people are like
over eighty thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And eight over eighty thousand.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You can find us on Instagram at you Beauty Podcast,
or you can send us an email You Beauty atmomama
dot com dot au.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, so hit us with some questions.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We've got some great questions to kick off the first
episode this.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Year, Kelly.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Later in the show, we are going to talk about
our chests, not our breasts, but people's chest chest.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
See my chest, see my chest and make Harry No,
that's not the song.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
First see my best need from real Grid because some
of ours might have seen some sun over the break.
Hopefully they haven't, but we will talk about that soon.
But first stuff, we have a question from Tina. Hi, Kelly,
and Lee, I hope you had a great Christmas. At
our Christmas lunch, I was telling my sister about Kelly's
snail musin and my uncle then told us soap is
made of whale fat.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
That can't be true, can it?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It made me wonder what products or ingredients are made
from animal stuff we don't know about. Can you give
us a rundown love? Maybe scarred for life?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I love it. I want to know about your uncle
and how old he is.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So, yes, Kelly has talked about myself at a lesser
amount about snail muchin, which is like a hydrating product
that's made out of that little slime eat they have
like mesh.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Thing eat stuff, and then the snails just like carry
on their business and then all of the stuff that
they excrete gets collected in a big vat and made
for products for your face, which is kind of disgusting
when you think about it, it is.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But great, So your uncle is not wrong, but it's
very rare these days. So back in the day, and
obviously culturally depending on the country, whale derived fat and
oils was used a lot. It was used to make soap.
Whale oil, the original honestly probably very moisturizing. Yeah, exactly,
(03:03):
the original squalen was made. Yeah, an animal version of squalen. Wait,
the liver of a shark.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yes, whale, there you go.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And also ambergree like that sort of sexy deep scent
in fragrances, like in fancy fragrances.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So that was from whales.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Whales, Gosh, they were just getting ripped left, fright and center.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I mean, why do you think whaling was such or
it is such a big thing. Funnily enough, when I
went to Iceland a hundred years ago now, we went
out to this beautiful kind of cultural welcome dinner, and
it was like, have some whale, have some puffin. But
they do eat a lot of those sort of animals
up there because they are very flesh and full of
fat and really bulky, like make you warm and anyway,
you know what I.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Mean, fagged whale and puff and taste like I was.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Unfortunately I had a miscarriage, but I was pregnant at
the time, so I had perfect out because I was like,
I don't think puffin and pregnancy goes together, not sure.
So it's very rarely used in products these days, but
it definitely was, I want to say, like in the
fifties and earlier. So that's a thing you might have
seen doing the rounds for a couple of years now.
Beef tallow. Everyone's using beef tallow as a face cream.
(04:06):
We did a story on it last Year's at some point,
and basically we interviewed a expert that said, please don't
put beef tallow on your pa is beef tallow beef fat?
Yuh Yeah, So I mean a lot of fats and
oils can be very plumping and hydrating. You know, we
as lots of plant based oils and waxes like a
(04:26):
hoe bus. So this is just one from an animal,
but doctors and experts kind of say don't use that.
Not huge, but definitely available pretty much most places. Is
plus center in hair treatments, usually from a cow, and
you will often see it marketed with the word plus
center on it. So, I mean, when you think about
what a plucenter is, it's giving life and nutrients to
(04:47):
a small being.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Actually do eat their own. They tend to put it
in cat these days. But it's full of Summit goodness. Yeah,
so that's where that came from. It's definitely around and
you can just google. I mean, if you're curious and
want to try or want to avoid these ingredients, google them.
Obviously to me, but not I guess to everyone. Laneline
is the wax and wool from sheep.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So Lanylin is an animal product and oftentimes it's in
you know, nappy rash creams or lip balms.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Honey comes from bees.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Obviously, so schilac, Yes, schlac is made from bugs, crushed
up bugs.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yes, the stuff that's on our nails. Correct, So it
depicts keroten. Yes, so keraten oftentimes well was silk. Now
oftentimes it's a vegan version of silk.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
A lot of it comes from the hoof of a horse.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
What.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yes, I did not know that. I knew it used
to be silk silk. The one I get kera silk
is synthetic silk.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So it's still in so many hair products that a
lot of people don't realize. Know that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Collagen, yes, so if you're ingesting collagen, it might be
marine collagen or bovine collagen. There are vegan versions, but
unfortunately you see the size the animal one's better.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think that this is interesting because it goes to
show that labels matter. Cruelty free versus vegan, yes.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So different.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
They actually are such different things. So vegan products they
don't contain any substances correct by any animal.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
A girlfriend of mine is vegan, and so I'm like, oh,
that's lanel and don't use that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And I'm like, oh, this is great, Like oh I've
got honey in it. I'm like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
And then cruelty free products are developed without using any
animal testing. So technically a cruelty free product might not
be vegan.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes, that's such a good point.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, Core six or whatever the brand is that does
the snail music. Yeah, they I think they're cruelty free.
They don't hurt the snails. They're definitely not vegan.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, there's been shark fin soup was a big thing.
There's been a lot of shark kind of cartilage, and
there's lots of different things pretty much not everywhere, but
if you are concerned obviously about animal welfare or you're
vegan or whatever, definitely do some googling. But yeah, there's
probably more animal stuff in stuff than people realize.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, gelatine.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Honestly, if you're actually curious, like and don't want to,
you probably just need to make sure that products that
you're purchasing are vegan.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yes, correct and like for me, I don't mind lanelin great,
I don't mind honey, sure, but I don't really want
Colpleuss Center or beef tallow anywhere in me.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
To be fair, I'm not gonna eat it, but i'd
probably Yeah you're vegetarian, vegetarian, but I would shmim any
thing if I thought it would make.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Me look and how funny I love a sausage in
a burger, but I'm not gonna smear it on me.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Horses.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
For courses, after the break, we're going to be talking
about our hairy, hairy chests. Hairy no, not hary's my
chest or hairy chest?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, so Claire has asked, Hello, lovely ladies, I've recently
noticed my chest and decolotage area has what looks like
the beginning of wren calls.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I've always been quite proud of this area.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It has been one of those things I like most
about myself, and now I'm slightly horrified, slightly freaking out.
Do you have any recommendations for products and treatments for
this type of concern for this area of the body.
I'm thirty six years old and admittedly have not applied
sunscreen to this area much over the course of my life.
Tisk tisk, I do now, but it may be a
little late to reverse the damage. It'll obviously prevent further damage,
(08:04):
but I'm hoping you have the answers for me.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Love your work. Thank you a wrinkly chest lady.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Firstly, I don't want to sound to woo woo in
my twenty twenty five era. But Claire, there is nothing
wrong with wrinkles. I know that this is a beauty
podcast and you're allowed to feel however you feel. But
I hate that you say that you're slightly horrified and
freaking out like it does happen also thirty six and
this is the first time you're like seeing some chest
(08:31):
wrinkles my very word.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I was in my early twenties. Yeah, used to roast that.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Area because it went a beautiful brown. And now I
literally sunscreened shirt hat shade and.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You probably still dot pigmentation.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, because the pigmentation coming out is from twenty years
ago exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So we've got a few tips.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
What I started doing when I was in my early
twenties and noticed those lines just appearing when I would
wake up, especially in the morning. Is I sleep between
a pillow between my tetes at night? Likely talk about
those silicon patches that you can get later. I don't
like the feeling of having anything want me, and.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
If you're a side sleeper, they kind of pop off, exactly,
So I am aside, so I sleep with something between
the tits. Yeah, you can actually get a pillow. It's
called the intimar breast pillow for chest sprinkles inside sleeping
and oh my god, it looks like this like chest
plate sort of thing, but it's squishy and lovely, and
then it goes over your shop. It looks like a
baby carry out, but it squidges inside your boob.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Can you please link me? I can? I mean they're
not cheap.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's made of like silk and stuff one hundred and
firty six dollars. But if you're gonna use it for
it and it like stays in place because you put
it around your neck and around your back and then
it smooges in between you boobies.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Oh my goodness. Genius. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So another thing semi related that kel just mentioned is
the silicon chest patches. Wrinkle shrinkles were kind of the first.
NA can get them everywhere. They're just kind of like
a big thick They work, though they work, but you
have to use them consistently and grape before an event.
But cause silicon is sort of healing and it's also
just going to kind of flatten them.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Out and keep it all plump and juicy.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't like wearing those to bed either because I
find them uncomfortable. But say I'm going to an event
that night and I'm working from home. I'll just whack
it on under my T shirt. It's doing the work
while I'm doing my laptop.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
What else you got slugging the area?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
So you mentioned at the end of last year you
were using masks like hydration masks, thick masks on the area. However,
anything that won't completely absorb through the night will work,
So you could use Nivia cream will later, skin food,
vasaline like anything really thick. If you just slug it
on so that the area is sort of not going
to get dry through the night and then have the
(10:28):
chance to wrinkle and shrinkle.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Louts agrees that's really good.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You could slug over a cheap retinal if you don't
want to use your expensive yeah retinal, but.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Definitely lesser percentage because your de Kolokov is much more
sensitive than your face.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You can get a Kmarte retinal for six dollars. The
ingredients are absolutely fine if you're just looking for something
really affordable and effective just to use on that area
and then to slug over the top.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yes, you don't need to spend heaps of money.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Finally, my last tip would be if you have one
of those led masks that you mold to your face
that isn't already in the face of flat. You can
flatten it and just that's what I hop it on
your chest like rather than I mean a lot of
people I know don't even use them on their face.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
They just while they're watching TV.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I said to my girlfriend, she's got the same one
as me, which is like flat and flexible. She goes,
I don't use my chest because I don't want to
end up with little like eyehole gaps. And I was like,
it's not that healing brake, just move it around each
FLA for thinking that it was that affecting, I know,
I wish I was like, oh my god, I'd buy
full Body Line. I totally agree with all those tips.
A couple of other products Good Molecules. They do the
discoloration correcting body treatment fifteen dollars USD. You do have
(11:32):
to ship from the US, but it's so good and
it is kind of got to correct the pigmentation over time,
but it's mild enough for the body. Another one I
haven't tried, but it's got good reviews. It's on Amazon.
It's the Kojaic Acid Triple booster skin brightening body lotion.
I've heard about twenty seven dollars yet it says encapsulated
Coojic skin brightening body serum. So you could try that
(11:52):
sheet masks for plumping the hydration if you've got lines. Literally,
if it's for your face, you can just open up
the sheet and whack it on your chest.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And then sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I now, if I'm going anywhere near the sun, usually,
unless I'm going to a nice event, always wear like
a crew neck T shirt because I'm just like, I
don't want to to see the damage and I don't
want to make their damage to us. But hey, you're
thirty six, you've got plenty of time. Just please sounds green, but.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Also no judgment because we all didn't know, well many
of us did it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I think most people's chests look, you know, ten years
older than their face, if if they're even if they're
into skincare, because we're like, oh face, the face, oopsie
chest and Lee.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
We've actually got the perfect episode coming out tomorrow for
this very question Erin is interviewing doctor Ryan, who is
a dermatologist. He bought a suitcase to the studio full
of products because he talks about reversing the damage that
we do to ousk in in the summer.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So that'll be out.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Tomorrow if you want a little bit more of an
in depth answer to reversing skin damage and pigmentation, more
science backs who doesn't. After the break, we have our
first tacks of the year.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Let me show you.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Many many times last year I probably lost count. I
talked about how sweaty I am, and I've given.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
This tip what you are, Perry Doll.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I'm pair and it's humid, and I've just always sweated.
But my sweat happens from the neck up my face
and my hair. My scout gets so sweaty. Anyway, wait,
s neck down. You don't nowhere near as much like
five percent of my sweat happens in my body.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's all in my head.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So over the break, when I was just kind of
be like minimal sheet girl and just wearing like tinted
whatever and SBF, I used my antipersperen which we've talked.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
About a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I used to use sort of the Rexzona creamy antipersperant,
but now I've been using the really liquidy roll on
and I after I've done my makeup and my sunscreen.
I use it almost like a serum because it's runnier
than those creamy antipersonance urdorants.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
And I.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
On my mustache because that's where I start getting really sweaty.
And then it was really good, and then I did
my makeup order and then I was like, I wonder
if this helps with my hairline.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So then I went to be in your brain when
you're at home just experimenting with these.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I'm a scientist you basically because I'm lucky enough to
have egg on in my house up in bedroom, which
is like the attic type bedroom. Yeah, so had I
not had the air on, I would know that it
was a billion degrease. I gotta walk outside and I'm like, boo,
I get hit in the face with this wall of heat.
So I've just been trying to find little hacks. I
was doing some stuff out in the garden. I leaned
over and literally it looked like I was crying. All
(14:24):
this water just fell onto the floor. I'm so sweaty.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So did it work? Yes, So instead of using.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
A creamy antiperson and obviously well, actually I'm not tried
using a spray on my face. No, don't take it well,
but one of those really thin ones or even maybe
the Mitcham clear gel.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And could you put makeup over the top, Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I mean I waited a bit like I was a
like a primer. This is great for anyone else who
has a sweaty face.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Look, I mean I still sweated elsewhere, Like it probably
just redirected the sweat.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But whatever, it works well, you'd rather it under pits.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, I think it was at the top of my
head and then I just pretended I just slip back on.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
What's your tip?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
My tip is going to be no surprise. Anyone with
curly hair that's nailed their curly hair will be like
rolling their eyes listening to this. But if you also
are kind of like me, where you have curly hair
but you don't know how to manage it properly, I
just want to reiterate to you that when curly girls
tell you that you need to style it when it's wet,
(15:18):
they're not exaggerating at all.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Oh it's true. I always just was like.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh, sure, it wouldn't make that much of a difference.
So the more hair takest just socks blah blah blah.
When I do it when it's wet, So do it
like put in the gel, put in them the difference,
like it has to be sopping wet.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Because you've cut your hair and got no extensions. Now,
so are you trying to play with like the more
texture and like yes.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
And so because I've cut it, all of the dead
hair is gone, so the natural curl is is curling and.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's not wayed down as much to buy so much
length exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So it's like spirally like yeah, it's very intense. I
know I don't ever wear it. I just do not
wear it.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You've been like catfishing us this whole time. I know
that I have like kind of straight hair.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
It's because the top layer is still so dead because
of a bleach. So it's like I would have to
wear it in like a little put half down to
see to see you girl cute little curls. But when
it's wet, and then I put in the curl cream
and then like diffuse it or just let it air dry.
Can you air dry yeah? A bit frizzier though a
bit frizzy.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, then your face don't have almost dried or towel
dried like I have stopping so it's suck it right
in so it can suck it right Okay, I wish
I had curly hair.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
No, you don't.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Okay, always want what you can't have, don't.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They were really good tips for just juicy, delicious curls
and not sweaty mode.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
We've had a little bit of time over the break
to come up.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
We have some things.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We're going to have so many more treats for you
on Friday, if you want to listen. Then in the meantime,
there's so much Are You Beauty dropping in the feed
this week.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And I hope everyone enjoyed having us back in your ears.
Did you miss us or probably not because we're kind
of were still in the area. Yeah, I know, but
you know we missed being in the studio together over
Thank you for coming back this year. And You Beauty
is produced by Cassie Merrit and Lou Hill.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Bye Bye
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
On Makeup is My Therapy Love. I'm obsessed and I
don't even feel guilty a body.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello and welcome to Pity, the Daily Podcast for your Faith.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Keilly McCarron, and it's twenty twenty
five bibars.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Twenty twenty five. Wow, the actual world.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Our break is over.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We are refreshed somewhatch.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We are definitely ready to get back into you beauty
this year because we love what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We absolutely love what we do, and it is a
joy to be sitting here across from you yet again.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And you have beautiful, juicy lips. So I'm just gonna
put some lip balm on while you tell people what
we do on Mondays.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You ask plenty questions.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
If you're new here, welcome on Mondays as always. Can
we answer your beauty questions or even just beauty adjacent Really,
if you have a beauty question, you can pop it
on the Facebook group. If you're not there, please come
and join us says over how many people are like
over eighty thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And eight over eighty thousand.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You can find us on Instagram at you Beauty Podcast,
or you can send us an email You Beauty atmomama
dot com dot au.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, so hit us with some questions.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We've got some great questions to kick off the first
episode this.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Year, Kelly.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Later in the show, we are going to talk about
our chests, not our breasts, but people's chest chest.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
See my chest, see my chest and make Harry No,
that's not the song.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
First see my best need from real Grid because some
of ours might have seen some sun over the break.
Hopefully they haven't, but we will talk about that soon.
But first stuff, we have a question from Tina. Hi, Kelly,
and Lee, I hope you had a great Christmas. At
our Christmas lunch, I was telling my sister about Kelly's
snail musin and my uncle then told us soap is
made of whale fat.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
That can't be true, can it?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It made me wonder what products or ingredients are made
from animal stuff we don't know about. Can you give
us a rundown love? Maybe scarred for life?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I love it. I want to know about your uncle
and how old he is.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So, yes, Kelly has talked about myself at a lesser
amount about snail muchin, which is like a hydrating product
that's made out of that little slime eat they have
like mesh.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Thing eat stuff, and then the snails just like carry
on their business and then all of the stuff that
they excrete gets collected in a big vat and made
for products for your face, which is kind of disgusting
when you think about it, it is.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But great, So your uncle is not wrong, but it's
very rare these days. So back in the day, and
obviously culturally depending on the country, whale derived fat and
oils was used a lot. It was used to make soap.
Whale oil, the original honestly probably very moisturizing. Yeah, exactly,
(03:03):
the original squalen was made. Yeah, an animal version of squalen. Wait,
the liver of a shark.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yes, whale, there you go.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And also ambergree like that sort of sexy deep scent
in fragrances, like in fancy fragrances.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So that was from whales.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Whales, Gosh, they were just getting ripped left, fright and center.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I mean, why do you think whaling was such or
it is such a big thing. Funnily enough, when I
went to Iceland a hundred years ago now, we went
out to this beautiful kind of cultural welcome dinner, and
it was like, have some whale, have some puffin. But
they do eat a lot of those sort of animals
up there because they are very flesh and full of
fat and really bulky, like make you warm and anyway,
you know what I.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Mean, fagged whale and puff and taste like I was.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Unfortunately I had a miscarriage, but I was pregnant at
the time, so I had perfect out because I was like,
I don't think puffin and pregnancy goes together, not sure.
So it's very rarely used in products these days, but
it definitely was, I want to say, like in the
fifties and earlier. So that's a thing you might have
seen doing the rounds for a couple of years now.
Beef tallow. Everyone's using beef tallow as a face cream.
(04:06):
We did a story on it last Year's at some point,
and basically we interviewed a expert that said, please don't
put beef tallow on your pa is beef tallow beef fat?
Yuh Yeah, So I mean a lot of fats and
oils can be very plumping and hydrating. You know, we
as lots of plant based oils and waxes like a
(04:26):
hoe bus. So this is just one from an animal,
but doctors and experts kind of say don't use that.
Not huge, but definitely available pretty much most places. Is
plus center in hair treatments, usually from a cow, and
you will often see it marketed with the word plus
center on it. So, I mean, when you think about
what a plucenter is, it's giving life and nutrients to
(04:47):
a small being.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Actually do eat their own. They tend to put it
in cat these days. But it's full of Summit goodness. Yeah,
so that's where that came from. It's definitely around and
you can just google. I mean, if you're curious and
want to try or want to avoid these ingredients, google them.
Obviously to me, but not I guess to everyone. Laneline
is the wax and wool from sheep.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So Lanylin is an animal product and oftentimes it's in
you know, nappy rash creams or lip balms.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Honey comes from bees.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Obviously, so schilac, Yes, schlac is made from bugs, crushed
up bugs.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yes, the stuff that's on our nails. Correct, So it
depicts keroten. Yes, so keraten oftentimes well was silk. Now
oftentimes it's a vegan version of silk.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
A lot of it comes from the hoof of a horse.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
What.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yes, I did not know that. I knew it used
to be silk silk. The one I get kera silk
is synthetic silk.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So it's still in so many hair products that a
lot of people don't realize. Know that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Collagen, yes, so if you're ingesting collagen, it might be
marine collagen or bovine collagen. There are vegan versions, but
unfortunately you see the size the animal one's better.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think that this is interesting because it goes to
show that labels matter. Cruelty free versus vegan, yes.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So different.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
They actually are such different things. So vegan products they
don't contain any substances correct by any animal.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
A girlfriend of mine is vegan, and so I'm like, oh,
that's lanel and don't use that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And I'm like, oh, this is great, Like oh I've
got honey in it. I'm like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
And then cruelty free products are developed without using any
animal testing. So technically a cruelty free product might not
be vegan.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yes, that's such a good point.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, Core six or whatever the brand is that does
the snail music. Yeah, they I think they're cruelty free.
They don't hurt the snails. They're definitely not vegan.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, there's been shark fin soup was a big thing.
There's been a lot of shark kind of cartilage, and
there's lots of different things pretty much not everywhere, but
if you are concerned obviously about animal welfare or you're
vegan or whatever, definitely do some googling. But yeah, there's
probably more animal stuff in stuff than people realize.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, gelatine.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Honestly, if you're actually curious, like and don't want to,
you probably just need to make sure that products that
you're purchasing are vegan.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yes, correct and like for me, I don't mind lanelin great,
I don't mind honey, sure, but I don't really want
Colpleuss Center or beef tallow anywhere in me.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
To be fair, I'm not gonna eat it, but i'd
probably Yeah you're vegetarian, vegetarian, but I would shmim any
thing if I thought it would make.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Me look and how funny I love a sausage in
a burger, but I'm not gonna smear it on me.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Horses.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
For courses, after the break, we're going to be talking
about our hairy, hairy chests. Hairy no, not hary's my
chest or hairy chest?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, so Claire has asked, Hello, lovely ladies, I've recently
noticed my chest and decolotage area has what looks like
the beginning of wren calls.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I've always been quite proud of this area.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It has been one of those things I like most
about myself, and now I'm slightly horrified, slightly freaking out.
Do you have any recommendations for products and treatments for
this type of concern for this area of the body.
I'm thirty six years old and admittedly have not applied
sunscreen to this area much over the course of my life.
Tisk tisk, I do now, but it may be a
little late to reverse the damage. It'll obviously prevent further damage,
(08:04):
but I'm hoping you have the answers for me.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Love your work. Thank you a wrinkly chest lady.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Firstly, I don't want to sound to woo woo in
my twenty twenty five era. But Claire, there is nothing
wrong with wrinkles. I know that this is a beauty
podcast and you're allowed to feel however you feel. But
I hate that you say that you're slightly horrified and
freaking out like it does happen also thirty six and
this is the first time you're like seeing some chest
(08:31):
wrinkles my very word.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I was in my early twenties. Yeah, used to roast that.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Area because it went a beautiful brown. And now I
literally sunscreened shirt hat shade and.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You probably still dot pigmentation.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, because the pigmentation coming out is from twenty years
ago exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So we've got a few tips.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
What I started doing when I was in my early
twenties and noticed those lines just appearing when I would
wake up, especially in the morning. Is I sleep between
a pillow between my tetes at night? Likely talk about
those silicon patches that you can get later. I don't
like the feeling of having anything want me, and.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
If you're a side sleeper, they kind of pop off, exactly,
So I am aside, so I sleep with something between
the tits. Yeah, you can actually get a pillow. It's
called the intimar breast pillow for chest sprinkles inside sleeping
and oh my god, it looks like this like chest
plate sort of thing, but it's squishy and lovely, and
then it goes over your shop. It looks like a
baby carry out, but it squidges inside your boob.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Can you please link me? I can? I mean they're
not cheap.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's made of like silk and stuff one hundred and
firty six dollars. But if you're gonna use it for
it and it like stays in place because you put
it around your neck and around your back and then
it smooges in between you boobies.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Oh my goodness. Genius. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So another thing semi related that kel just mentioned is
the silicon chest patches. Wrinkle shrinkles were kind of the first.
NA can get them everywhere. They're just kind of like
a big thick They work, though they work, but you
have to use them consistently and grape before an event.
But cause silicon is sort of healing and it's also
just going to kind of flatten them.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Out and keep it all plump and juicy.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't like wearing those to bed either because I
find them uncomfortable. But say I'm going to an event
that night and I'm working from home. I'll just whack
it on under my T shirt. It's doing the work
while I'm doing my laptop.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
What else you got slugging the area?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
So you mentioned at the end of last year you
were using masks like hydration masks, thick masks on the area. However,
anything that won't completely absorb through the night will work,
So you could use Nivia cream will later, skin food,
vasaline like anything really thick. If you just slug it
on so that the area is sort of not going
to get dry through the night and then have the
(10:28):
chance to wrinkle and shrinkle.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Louts agrees that's really good.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You could slug over a cheap retinal if you don't
want to use your expensive yeah retinal, but.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Definitely lesser percentage because your de Kolokov is much more
sensitive than your face.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You can get a Kmarte retinal for six dollars. The
ingredients are absolutely fine if you're just looking for something
really affordable and effective just to use on that area
and then to slug over the top.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yes, you don't need to spend heaps of money.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Finally, my last tip would be if you have one
of those led masks that you mold to your face
that isn't already in the face of flat. You can
flatten it and just that's what I hop it on
your chest like rather than I mean a lot of
people I know don't even use them on their face.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
They just while they're watching TV.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I said to my girlfriend, she's got the same one
as me, which is like flat and flexible. She goes,
I don't use my chest because I don't want to
end up with little like eyehole gaps. And I was like,
it's not that healing brake, just move it around each
FLA for thinking that it was that affecting, I know,
I wish I was like, oh my god, I'd buy
full Body Line. I totally agree with all those tips.
A couple of other products Good Molecules. They do the
discoloration correcting body treatment fifteen dollars USD. You do have
(11:32):
to ship from the US, but it's so good and
it is kind of got to correct the pigmentation over time,
but it's mild enough for the body. Another one I
haven't tried, but it's got good reviews. It's on Amazon.
It's the Kojaic Acid Triple booster skin brightening body lotion.
I've heard about twenty seven dollars yet it says encapsulated
Coojic skin brightening body serum. So you could try that
(11:52):
sheet masks for plumping the hydration if you've got lines. Literally,
if it's for your face, you can just open up
the sheet and whack it on your chest.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And then sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I now, if I'm going anywhere near the sun, usually,
unless I'm going to a nice event, always wear like
a crew neck T shirt because I'm just like, I
don't want to to see the damage and I don't
want to make their damage to us. But hey, you're
thirty six, you've got plenty of time. Just please sounds green, but.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Also no judgment because we all didn't know, well many
of us did it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I think most people's chests look, you know, ten years
older than their face, if if they're even if they're
into skincare, because we're like, oh face, the face, oopsie
chest and Lee.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
We've actually got the perfect episode coming out tomorrow for
this very question Erin is interviewing doctor Ryan, who is
a dermatologist. He bought a suitcase to the studio full
of products because he talks about reversing the damage that
we do to ousk in in the summer.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So that'll be out.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Tomorrow if you want a little bit more of an
in depth answer to reversing skin damage and pigmentation, more
science backs who doesn't. After the break, we have our
first tacks of the year.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Let me show you.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Many many times last year I probably lost count. I
talked about how sweaty I am, and I've given.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
This tip what you are, Perry Doll.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I'm pair and it's humid, and I've just always sweated.
But my sweat happens from the neck up my face
and my hair. My scout gets so sweaty. Anyway, wait,
s neck down. You don't nowhere near as much like
five percent of my sweat happens in my body.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's all in my head.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So over the break, when I was just kind of
be like minimal sheet girl and just wearing like tinted
whatever and SBF, I used my antipersperen which we've talked.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
About a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I used to use sort of the Rexzona creamy antipersperant,
but now I've been using the really liquidy roll on
and I after I've done my makeup and my sunscreen.
I use it almost like a serum because it's runnier
than those creamy antipersonance urdorants.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
And I.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
On my mustache because that's where I start getting really sweaty.
And then it was really good, and then I did
my makeup order and then I was like, I wonder
if this helps with my hairline.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So then I went to be in your brain when
you're at home just experimenting with these.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I'm a scientist you basically because I'm lucky enough to
have egg on in my house up in bedroom, which
is like the attic type bedroom. Yeah, so had I
not had the air on, I would know that it
was a billion degrease. I gotta walk outside and I'm like, boo,
I get hit in the face with this wall of heat.
So I've just been trying to find little hacks. I
was doing some stuff out in the garden. I leaned
over and literally it looked like I was crying. All
(14:24):
this water just fell onto the floor. I'm so sweaty.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So did it work? Yes, So instead of using.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
A creamy antiperson and obviously well, actually I'm not tried
using a spray on my face. No, don't take it well,
but one of those really thin ones or even maybe
the Mitcham clear gel.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And could you put makeup over the top, Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I mean I waited a bit like I was a
like a primer. This is great for anyone else who
has a sweaty face.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Look, I mean I still sweated elsewhere, Like it probably
just redirected the sweat.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But whatever, it works well, you'd rather it under pits.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, I think it was at the top of my
head and then I just pretended I just slip back on.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
What's your tip?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
My tip is going to be no surprise. Anyone with
curly hair that's nailed their curly hair will be like
rolling their eyes listening to this. But if you also
are kind of like me, where you have curly hair
but you don't know how to manage it properly, I
just want to reiterate to you that when curly girls
tell you that you need to style it when it's wet,
(15:18):
they're not exaggerating at all.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Oh it's true. I always just was like.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh, sure, it wouldn't make that much of a difference.
So the more hair takest just socks blah blah blah.
When I do it when it's wet, So do it
like put in the gel, put in them the difference,
like it has to be sopping wet.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Because you've cut your hair and got no extensions. Now,
so are you trying to play with like the more
texture and like yes.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
And so because I've cut it, all of the dead
hair is gone, so the natural curl is is curling and.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's not wayed down as much to buy so much
length exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So it's like spirally like yeah, it's very intense. I
know I don't ever wear it. I just do not
wear it.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You've been like catfishing us this whole time. I know
that I have like kind of straight hair.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
It's because the top layer is still so dead because
of a bleach. So it's like I would have to
wear it in like a little put half down to
see to see you girl cute little curls. But when
it's wet, and then I put in the curl cream
and then like diffuse it or just let it air dry.
Can you air dry yeah? A bit frizzier though a
bit frizzy.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, then your face don't have almost dried or towel
dried like I have stopping so it's suck it right
in so it can suck it right Okay, I wish
I had curly hair.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
No, you don't.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Okay, always want what you can't have, don't.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They were really good tips for just juicy, delicious curls
and not sweaty mode.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
We've had a little bit of time over the break
to come up.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
We have some things.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We're going to have so many more treats for you
on Friday, if you want to listen. Then in the meantime,
there's so much Are You Beauty dropping in the feed
this week.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And I hope everyone enjoyed having us back in your ears.
Did you miss us or probably not because we're kind
of were still in the area. Yeah, I know, but
you know we missed being in the studio together over
Thank you for coming back this year. And You Beauty
is produced by Cassie Merrit and Lou Hill.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Bye Bye
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