October 19, 2025 • 30 mins
Wedding makeup artist drama when your friend's glam style clashes with your natural bridal vision? Keeping your ex's expensive skincare stash after he did you dirty? Or maybe you're a new mum struggling with excess skin and wondering if you just have to accept this as your new normal?
We're solving bridal beauty dilemmas without ruining friendships, delivering the verdict on keeping your ex's serums (spoiler: they're yours now), and getting honest about motherhood body changes with real talk about loose skin.
Plus: Kim K's wildest launch yet involving pubic hair G-strings and the $600 TikTok facial tool everyone's obsessing over.
Welcome to The Fix - where your beauty agony aunts Kelly & Amy solve the awkward, embarrassing, and absolutely essential dilemmas you're too mortified to ask anyone else about.
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- Skims Faux Hair Micro String Thong
- Kris Jenner's dramatic blonde transformation
- Shark's Facial ProGlow Tool $600
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Makeup is my therapy in love.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm obsessed and I don't even feel.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to you, beauty. I'm
Kelly mccaren and this is The Fix. Now what is
the Fix?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You may ask, Hang on, You've got to introduce me.
I'm Amy Clark, my co host to The Fix. Yes,
and guys, this is a brand new segment that basically
we want to answer your juicy beauty dilemmas.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Think of it like we your beauty agony.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Aren't literally the questions that you're too embarrassed to ask
or you just need some real talk advice, You're going
to be sending them in, So please let us know
if you have any questions. But we are so excited
to get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Just like your rogue aren't that drops in unannounced to visit.
You won't ever know when you're going to get an
episode of the Fix. It's just going to drop into
your feeds when you least expect it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That sounds really exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But first, our beauty headlines. Boy, do we have news
for you. I'm Cass and I'm Sophie. Let's get into it.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So, Kim Kardashian has just launched something pretty crazy faux
hair micro string thongs, and it's basically a Skims branded
G string with pubic hair on the front of it
sewn in.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I feel like this is the beauty news of the week.
I couldn't wait to talk about it. I woke up,
I checked my group chat that was blowing up. All
of my friends were like, what is going on? Then
I went to Instagram and the comments were very much
the same. It was is this an amazing marketing stunt
again from the Kardashians or is this April falls?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Is this a joke?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, exactly, And it's not a prank unfortunately or unfortunately,
depending on what you think of it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It is legit.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It's called a faux hem micro string thong, which is
basically a Skim's G string with faux pubic hare sewn
onto the front of it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So random.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Yes, when I first saw photos, I couldn't believe it.
And then I saw that there was a whole range
and there was different colors and different textures, Whi's just
kind of cool, but also I just thought insane. And
you know, Kim's done something like this before where she's
done the nipple bras, and I get that more, but
this one just felt a little bit too far.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Fetched for me.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It was a big step. The nipple bras were fun.
I think faux pubic hair is very interesting. But then
in saying that there has been such a revival of
pubic hair in public culture, I'm not sure if you've
seen like all the chat going on TikTok Bush's back,
so Bush's back and Vogue literally titled a story called
the Bushes Back in twenty twenty five, which is wild
and Mason Margela on their runway recently they had like
(02:39):
models with pubic hair running down the runway I suppose, So, yeah,
it's all happening. It's a pubic hair department at the moment,
and so so I'm interested for you and your you know,
your group chat. Do people think this is just a
marketing thing.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Well, what I was surprised about is when they said
that it was sold out, does that mean that there
was only thirty for sale and that's why it's sold out?
Because I just can't. I can't imagine me or any
of my friends buying this.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yes, I think it is that like Skim's Effects that
we kind of We've spoken about this before, but everybody's
obsessed with whatever she has to launch, especially if it
is like kind of rogue like the nipple bra that
also sold out. So I think it's just the Skim's
effect that's selling it out. I feel like they would
have made more than thirty. But yeah, it's interesting to
see it fly off the shelves so quickly when it
is so avant garde.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah, and either way, they got us on their website
looking at all the other.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Products, so exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I mean, the Kardashians know what they're doing when it
comes to marketing, and like Mama is like Chris, they
know what they're doing. So I really think she's taken
a page out of Chris's book for this one.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Okay, and speaking of Chris, did you see her new hairstyle?
She went from her iconic hairstyle that everyone knows her
from two blonde.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Literally, I don't know about you, but I didn't absolutely
double take when I saw the photos. She was at
an event also with her daughter, Yes, so they both
had similar cropped Bob's hairfels and Chris's was really super
blonde and Kim's was black. But it was so interesting
to me looking at them side by side, I was like,
these two are literally identical.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Ever since Chris Scott had face lived too, they couldn't
look more like twins exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And also interestingly, it was Kim's hairstylist, Chris Appleton, who
did the look, so I also think you can tell
that that similar touch was across both of the looks,
which is crazy. But so I don't know if this
one's here to stay. If I'm honest, she.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Came out and said blondes have more fun than that
she was going to try it, But yes, I feel
like she's just grown to suit that hairstyle and we
can't not know her wearing that hairstyle.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's not the first time we've seen a Kardashian do
a crazy hair transition, but it is the first time
for Chris.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
So obviously we've got Kylie always changing her hair, Kim
always changing her hair, it feels like it's every week.
But with Chris, Yeah, we've never seen her do a
b transformation like this. So it's like, is this a
week or is this here to stay?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I think it's a weig if I'm honest.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I mean, I had another cheeky look at her grid
this morning and she was back to her classic brunette.
So I feel like a flash in the pan. But
at least she got to live life as a blonde
for a day. So if there's a new tool I
need to talk about desperately, it's Shark's Facial Proglow. Very
fancy name, but it's growing absolutely nuts on TikTok, and
we need to discuss.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, and what does it do.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So basically, it's kind of not a departure for Shark
considering they're a vacuum brand first, so it's kind of
similar to a hydrofacial tool in that it vacuums out
all the gunk from your paws. But it also has
like a heating and cooling element where WI can deepaf
and sculpt the skin. So it's being marketed as a
facial from home, which is interesting considering that we all
did that during COVID for so long.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah. See that scares me because I don't understand that side,
and I'd love to go and get facials and relax.
So the thought of me doing it myself at home
that scares me because I just wouldn't trust myself to
do a facial at home.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And when I've seen lots.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Of influencers online using it, there just seems like there's
lots of different steps, lots of different parts to it.
And I keep remembering that I own the Shark Flex
blow dry tool and it's been a year and I
still don't understand how to properly use that. So I
can't see this being great for me, but I can
see it being great for someone like you who is
very savvy.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I mean, that's a good point, so because they are
quite confusing, and there are so many elements to the
Shark tools, and I think that's what makes the Flex
style so good but also so confusing, because you really
have to know like what each thing does and you
have to like put in the time and effort to
perfect it. And I would say that the Shark proglow
is probably going to be the same and that you're
going to have to spend some time figuring out.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I mean, for me, I don't really.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Like people touching my face that don't know my skin
because it's very sensitive and I just know what up
so I'm keen.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
To try it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
But yeah, at this stage, I think it is for
more people that are getting facials regularly and maybe just
want an easy one from home, rather than just like
the average skin care kind of person that wants to
get into it.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Okay, so I'm assuming it's expensive.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
How much is it? Yeah, it is quite a lot.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So it's retailing in the US at the moment. It's
not available in Australia yet. But knowing Shark, I'd say
it's coming for four hundred dollars USD, which is around
six hundred AED, so it's going to cost you a
pretty penny.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's going to set you back.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think for people that are already doing regular facials,
I mean they can be like two hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Bucks, so that seems good.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, it's actually quite a bargain for them. But if
you're not already doing that, it is a big upfront cost.
I'd say, I mean, I don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So honestly, right now, I don't think that this is
something that I will purchase, especially if it's six hundred dollars.
But that's what I said about an led face mask
and that is what I want on my blush list
for Christmas. So I feel like in a year's time,
who knows what will be exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I think it's one of those tools that's going to
take some education. It's going to take some time, but
eventually we might be on the bandwagon. I mean, lots
of the influences of people in America trying it are
loving it, so I'm really interested. They're saying it reduces
poor size in one go, so it might be easier
than we think.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So let's watch this space. That's a being a goss
for this week.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Guys, let's get back into your dilemmas of Kelly and Amy.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Okay, so question number one is the friend makeup artist dilemma.
Now Lauren DM dust asking help, my help. My friend
is a makeup artist and has done everyone's wedding makeup
in our group, and I think she's just assuming she'll
do mine. The thing is, I really want a more subtle,
natural look for my big day and her style is well,
(07:42):
it's a lot. How do I let her down gently
without causing a friendship catastrophe? Is there a way to
get out of this without hurting her?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Feelings.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Gosh, weddings tensions are hard people here, Yeah, they do
like the worst. Yes, and you can lose friendships over weddings. Thankfully,
I haven't the story for another time not podcast appropriate.
So basically what I would say, there's a few things
(08:12):
that I need to know from Lauren. But I'm hoping
that her wedding isn't in like two weeks two weeks time,
or even a few two months time. I'm hoping that
we're like a year out here.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, maybe she's just gotten engaged and she's already freaking.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Out about it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, I think straight.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Off the bat, you need to at least give her
a try first. I think that's kind of mean. If
you don't at the very least give your friend a try.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, step one would just be in conversation. Yeah, I
need to start organizing my wedding makeup. See if the
friend first is like, oh, I'd love to do it,
And then if that's then you go, okay, cool, Let's
start having some trials. Let's start having a play, give
her a go, like, take lots of reference. I actually
for my wedding makeup had a friend to do it.
(08:57):
I know you did your own I had a colleague
do it, which is actually like an extra layer of like, well, shit,
this could get awkward. Yeah if it's no good. But
because we lived in the same state and because we
were friends, the up side is we could do as
many trials as we wanted, so I reckon we did
maybe four separate occasions. And also because it was like, okay,
(09:19):
the first time we did just the full look and
I was like, this is what I I like.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
This, this is what I don't like.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Also what I thought I would like changed, So you know,
I had all these reference shots that I really wanted
that tiny little eyeliner flick, and I just don't love
how I look with heavy eye makeup or eyeliner. But
I thought, I don't know why, but all my reference
shots had a little wing and all of this. So
we did that. We did for my hens. She came
(09:47):
and did make up, and we did like another foundation trial.
So like that's the upside.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Too, So like it's not going to cost you money, no, exactly,
take over a bottle of wine and be like, let's
get ready for this event together, and can you do
my makeup so we can do a trial? Yeah, I think, yeah,
I definitely think she needs to give her a go
at the very least with a couple of trials, because
she is a makeup artist, so therefore she should be
able to dial it back a little bit and sort
(10:15):
of work with the client, which is that self. So
maybe all of your friends requested a heavier look, or
maybe a lot of brides that she has worked with
wanted that heavier look.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Also, it's worth noting we've had to discuss this before
on podcasts. Even if you don't like makeup and don't
like wearing much makeup, if you want to look outstanding
in your photos, you need to wear more makeup than
you usually would.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Otherwise it just doesn't photograph.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, and it is something you need to get comfortable
with exactly. I would also recommend, just in general, is
whether you've got a few events beforehand, or even if
you just got a dinner or something like, go and
get your makeup done at Mecca or like go and
or just apply more makeup than you would to get
used to how you look with that much makeup on.
That is such a good tip because otherwise you're gonna
(11:01):
look in the mirror and it's like school. I remember
having this with school formal going and getting my makeup
done and then looking in the mirror and being like,
I I've got a mask on.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And you feel gross because you feel all the products
on you.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You just feel like people are looking at you and
be like, she's got so much makeup on, but do
all of that? And then what I would say? So,
let's say you've done all that. Also, wedding makeup is
so expensive. If you've got a mate who can do
it for a great discount, take up that offer, because
there's so many other things that you have to spend
(11:35):
your money on. Okay, So what happens if she's done
the trials and the communications just not communicating, it's just
not working out.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
What would you do in that case? At the end
of the day, it's her wedding, so of course she
should have the makeup that she wants. I do think
that other makeup artists are probably going to do heavier
makeup too, given that it is your wedding.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But if you find.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Someone, you go and do a trial and you absolutely
love them, then I think that you just need to
be honest with your friend and just say, hey, love
you so much. But I'm going to go with this
person just because it is more suited to my face
or whatnot. And like, yes, your friend might be hurt,
but I'm sure she will like it's your wedding, so
(12:21):
and at least she doesn't have to worry about doing
anything on.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The day exactly. Or I was going to say if
you didn't, if you would just really like, Okay, I don't.
I just know that it's not the vibe. And sometimes
sometimes that's the case. But let's just say you know
that it's not going to be the vibe that you want.
Ask her if she would do like your mom's make up,
the mother of the groom or like you know.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
And you're just giving her more work to do, but
like not the glory of the bride.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But maybe she just maybe the friend just wants to
be involved and wants to feel like she's a part
of the day. Like I don't know if this is
like a bridesmaid level friend we're talking about, if she's
a bridesmaid, just be like I need you on other things.
I want you. Oh yeah, make her.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
A bridesmaid so she doesn't do perfect okay.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And then you're actually the maid of honor now you're.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Actually you can do all of the other bridesmaids makeup,
but I just I want you to focus on all
of that.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'll have someone else just to do mine.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, like you're doing her a favor.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah you are. You're just such a good friend.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, okay, solved next. All right, So our second dilemma
the ex's skincare products. I mean, I think this one
will take about two seconds to answer. Let's get the
both of us were just like so our next admission
(13:42):
is anonymous from Melbourne. Also, can I just say Lauren?
I hope that's a fake name, because I wonder if
she's going to be easily identifiable Anyways, that's not our problem.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's not our problem.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So the makeup articxt friend listens to this episode, it's like,
what the back.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
At our anonymous mate from Melbourne says, my boyfriend and
I recently broke up condolences, and he left all of
his skincare products at my place. We're talking a bunch
of super expensive stuff and I'm not gonna lie. I've
been using it. I'm now completely hooked on his face
wash and serums. Should I just keep it or do
(14:17):
I need to offer to give it back. I feel
like a total thief. And also I really want to
keep it. He did me dirty at the end of
the relationship. You're using it like you're keeping it?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is she anonymous?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Anon, you're an overthinker. I think, who, oh my goodness,
they're yours. Who cares? Not a chance? Are you giving
those back? No?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And also, you know what you're not doing. You're not
reaching out to him to ask if he would like
it back.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
His expensive skincare products back. Well, you're gonna then give
them back half empty.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
If it was like he'd left his iPad, yeah, or
like his simply hold, or like an heirloom piece of jewelry,
like maybe if you're going to be the bigger person. No,
absolutely not. I also want to know what it was.
I'm really curious as to what the products were, So
if Anon wants to just follow that up, let us know.
(15:11):
Just because it's a bit pervian, I want to know.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, what are these amazing expensive skincare products. If he
ever does get in touch and asks them back, you
can either A just not respond because you don't owe
him anything, or B just be like, oh, it was
just your staff and I don't think you want it,
so I chucked it out. You owe him nothing, No,
owe him absolutely nothing. No, he's clearly taken part of
(15:33):
your time, potentially some of your dignity, your heart, take
his skincare.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And also he probably found out about those products through you,
as in like he probably learned about skincare by being
with you. It's always the way we trained them up,
and then off they go to the next person.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Exactly question number three, the unsolicited advice. This one's getting
my backup. I think it's getting your back up too,
and known as well from Sydney. I have a friend
who is the absolute sweetest, but she has a full
on beard and mustache.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Why didn't you mustache?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah? I don't know. I've always said mustache in a
mustache mustache. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I just think the word mustache is really funny. Okay,
my other friends and I talk about it, and we
can't figure out if she doesn't notice or doesn't care.
We're all in our mid twenties and obsessed with TikTok
beauty hacks, and I'm honestly wondering if I should talk
to her about it. Is there a gentle way to
bring it up or is this one of those things
where you just have to let it be. I'm worried
it might be affecting her confidence, but I'm also worried
(16:42):
about totally embarrassing her for saying something.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, Sydney and On tell you, who isn't the absolute
sweetest you go just let rip.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Well, I just think you're not actually worried about your
friend's confidence, Otherwise you wouldn't be bitching about her beard
behind her back.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, this one is I'm cringing even thinking about how
that conversation would even go.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Just don't like.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I just think unless she has a medical condition that
has affected her eyesight, or she's got really poor eyesight
and doesn't wear glasses or contacts, she's well aware that
she's hairy.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Okay, we know as a fellow hairy lass, we know
that they are. We are very hairy. Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We don't need you and your other and our other
hairless friends bitching about our hairiness.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Behind our back. We know, and we would ask you
know what as well. There's a reason why she probably
hasn't asked you.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I love that the fingers up, Oh, I've got the
finger pointing and one other thing, one other thing.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Bearded lady, come and be friends with me. I won't
make fun of your beard.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But just in all seriousness, because, like you know, there's
lots of reasons why people might have fasuettes hair. Yeah,
genetics exactly, it might be hormone or even if your
body's gone through a massive change like that can all
throw your hair out of.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Why well, you just might be hairy. Hello, I have
to tweeze every single day.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, I mean I have, Like I'm fair, so I
am one of those blessed people where you don't see
the hair necessarily. Maybe it's shining in the studio light.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It possibly could because I'm fair too, but you can see.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, I like my husband will often kind of like
lovingly be like, oh, there's your mustache when it catches
the sunlight.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
How nice of him?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Anon? Is your husband? Actually? And he's changed his friends,
he meant his wife, he's actually and it wustache.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
But I know, like I see it every time I
look in the mirror, especially when I use our powder
room downstairs with the overhead lights shining. I see that
mustache and I don't like and I just I don't care.
I don't care enough, so, as Kelly said, the person
knows I would absolutely not be bringing it up unless
(19:10):
they unless they do, unless they have made a comment
in the past, or maybe they've like made a bit
of a joke about it at some stage on multiple occasions.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And you can totally say something like Amy's just pointed
out her own mustache.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So then it now Kelly to say, oh, did you
know taking it?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And I would say I have something you have Yeah, yeah, God,
gosh darn it, ye Devil's advocate.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
They could potentially yeah, absolutely, like absolutely every like different
strokes for different folks, but also like they could potentially
The person who wrote in said that they are all
obsessed with.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
TikTok beauty hags, Like if you really wanted to do something,
you could like share a video of one of those
creators putting no.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That's even meaner. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
The funny thing is, though, where because I get so
arked up about this yet. I if if someone had
a really smelly cowork, I wouldn't be opposed to putting
deodoran on.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That absolutely, But then that's affecting.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You because you have to smell it and you can't concentrate.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
But yes, I think hygiene related things is different because.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It affects you and then you can't concentrate on other things.
But her hairy face doesn't affect you at all. And
if you say that, you have to look at your bitch,
because that's.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
What I'm thinking. I'm like preempting.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, anyway, sorry, Sydney, and I'm sure that you're actually
a nice person, but I.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Just don't say anything as a fellow hairy gal.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It just upset me that people are talking about their
hairy gal behind your back.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Finally, we have a post baby body dilemma. So this
submission is another a non from Adelaide, my hometown.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Fair enough, when they're emailing the agony ants, they want
a non.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Oh yeah, I like, I have no judgment to a non.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We know, and I actually love a noon because it means, like,
tell us what you really need to know. Yeah, So
a none says I'm a new mum and I'm struggling
with the changes to my body, especially the excess skin
on my tummy. I love my baby more than anything,
but when I look in the mirror, I don't recognize myself.
My friends tell me it's a Badge of honor quote unquote,
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but I just feel really uncomfortable. Is there anything I
can do for this? Or do I just have to
accept this as my new normal. I'll throw it to
you first, Kelly, because you are a mum, so I
feel like, let's you get the first rid of reply.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Okay, that's nice of you.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Firstly, I feel like I need a little bit more
context of how new of a mum you are, because
if you're really new, I mean regardless, I think that
you need to be kind to yourself, like bodies do
not just bounce back overnight, however much Hollywood tells us.
I also would like to know your age, because that also,
funnily enough, has so much do with it, with how
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much like quickly your skin does go back.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And its age is actually probably more important than like
your previous If you had a six pack before, that
doesn't mean that you're automatically going to have this tight
six pack.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Especially I would say, if you're say thirty five and older,
your skin it simply does not have the collagen an
elasticity that it does if you'll say twenty three, So
it like it potentially will never go back. And I'm
going to use the word normal, I mean normal for
you what you looked like before you had a baby.
So please, if you hear me use that word, I
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simply mean before you have a baby. I was older,
I was in my mid thirties when I had lend
Or thirty three, same thing, and my body did not
go back to what it was prior. I am in
a smaller body than I was before. I felt pregnant
thanks to racing around after a toddler, but growing he
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was huge.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He was so big.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
My tummy stretched so much, and I do have loose
skin and like a lot of stretch marks on my
tummy that will not like it's been three years, so
they're definitely not going to go away now, which is
why I also want to know how old the baby
is though, because it does take time. Yes, my skin
definitely did go back somewhat after a year or so.
You can take it away now and then we can
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sort of get into the options.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But I get it. It does feel weird, and you know,
I'm the first person to go.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yes, it's like just a beautiful sign that that was
the house that you grew your baby in. But I
also totally get sometimes I do think it'd be nice
to wear a bikini. Yeah, Like I've got a lovely
flat stomach at the moment, but I wouldn't wear a
bikini because it's do you know, the talking tummy not
with skin.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Sorry, it was.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Really a brass that was frightening.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
We've got like a lot, there's a lot happening there.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, And like it's so interesting because like that doesn't
have a thought about how their body looks, regardless of
whether they're a size six, a size twenty six, that
they're conventionally attractive whatever, man, woman, whatever, Like.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Literally could not agree.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, Like I relate to this on a personal level
because like I've had bariatric surgery, gastric sleeve and that
was that was five for almost six years ago now,
So the loose skin like that will never be going
away unless it's literally slashed off my body, which I
probably will do that at some point. I'm thinking, like
post if I'm you know, blessed enough to have a kid,
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like I would one percent be you know, having my
arms and stomach looked at, because that's what would make
me feel just like better. But I've also been living
with this loose skin for like five years now. And
it doesn't stop me from doing my everyday activities. It
doesn't stop me from wearing bathers, swimmers and all of that.
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But the thing is is that, yeah, there's no creams.
There's no cream Some lasers would help a little bit,
depending on the severity of the loose skin, like laser
would probably help with mine or stretch marks. And also
the other thing I was gonna say, I think this
comes down to how you feel about it as well.
Comes down to whether you had stretch marks before already,
(25:22):
Like my body has had all sorts of stripes and
things going on since I was probably like fourteen years old,
because you've situated a little bit, yeah, because of growth
spurts and things like that. If you're the kind of
person that never has had stretch marks before and then
you get them, that is quite confronting, especially because they're
super angry looking when you first get them, and then obviously,
like mine are all lack a lovely silvery you know,
(25:46):
lines that just hit the light nicely.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
But when you first get them, you're so right, they
are cranky looking.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, they look they look red and angry. But there's
the skin, especially skin in large areas like that across
the stomach. We get a lot of questions in the
U Beauty Facebook group about loose skin on the neck
and around kind of this the double chin area, and
like this is its thinner skin. It is like a
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smaller area. So like if you're using say a vitamin
a body treatment like that can like help reduce the appearance.
It's not gonna like nothing's gonna be like a facelift
or like having surgery, but that can help. However, so
you could you could use that kind of thing on
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your stomach, but it's not gonna have you just gotta
be realistic about the expectation about the results you're gonna get.
That might help. As you said, a laser for like
the appearance of stretch marks can help. It is expensive,
like you've got to go. It's not like a one
and done treatment.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Times just to go get a bit of a tuck
well or what have you looked into it?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
How much is it?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I haven't yet, but it's probably it'll be an investment.
It'll be an investment that's more just like a I mean,
I hey, who knows, but by the time I get there,
maybe I'm gonna be oh, fuck it. Whatever, I'm too tired.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Well honestly, that's how I feel. Like, Yes, I look
at my stomach and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But coming into yeah, but coming into summer like this
time of year, I won one hundred percent like empathize
and know what it feels like to be on the
beach and to just be like, I've got this skin
hanging off me and I feel like, you know, I
want to run in the water or I want to
do you know, I want to wear the strappy tops
and I'm like, you know, reaching for the bus and
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there it's fluffing away.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But like, did you see that TikTok I shared not
longer where it was swing swing?
Speaker 3 (27:47):
She actually she was like, I can't afford skin removal surgery,
so I got I can't afford a tatoo, So she
got a tattoo of a lady swinging on her arm skin.
So it just like, you know, she's got a sense
of humor.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, I have so much loose skin that literally like
I can't if I dance too hard, like it's slapping together.
So a party trick if you yes. Literally, But what
I would say is one thing I wanted to recommend
in terms of like I just want to recommend some
swimwear and maybe because I'm just thinking that, like this
is coming up and its topical, like I swear by
(28:23):
I have. I think it's is it Uni piece or
yes piece I have. I actually prefer to wear a
two piece, like I've tried one piece of thinking that
that's gonna make me feel more confident about my stomach.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But I actually feel sexier in a two piece. He
looks so good in a two piece.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, it's like high waisted with like one of those
like balconet like bra cup swimming.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It kind of like pushes everything up.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Shoes, everything up. I feel like Marilyn Monroe or the.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Run in the ocean.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Then yeah, I mean I do whatever, Like honestly, you
once you get down there, no what Yeah a reminder
no one is looking at you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, or they might to be like, oh where did
she get her swimsuit or whatnot? Like yeah, or you're
not going to remain.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
In anyone, absolutely not. But the other one too is
like the boy like boy of short. But baths are
really in at the moment, Like I have a great
pair from Kmart that I wore while I was overseas
a lot that kind of like shorts with a little
high waist short that also would like eat with whatever
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top you want, but like that with then something a
bit more like a triangle on the top. Cute, very sexy.
But yes, long story short, there is nothing you can
do for that loose skin on your stomach unless you
are gonna go and invest and have like, you know,
a cosmetic which curt.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Probably can't do it the moment.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Anyway, if you're a new mum, yeah, like if when
someone says a new mum, I'm assuming the baby's like
only a few months old.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, give it a bit, give it some time to
like come to grips with this new you, because yeah,
looking in the mirror, it can be very disorientating to
be like, this person that I'm looking at doesn't look
like however you used to tell me talk. Yeah, and
you know, but at the end of the day, your
feelings are valid. But yeah, I hope that has been
(30:13):
helpful for hour and on and I hope that she's
like enjoying being a mum, yeah, like and soaking it up.
Oh and maybe getting some sleep. I don't know, what
do your moms do?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, that's that's a good advice. Thank you. That's all.
We'll be back in your ears and eyes.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Who knows when. Like we said, it'll just be when
you least expect it.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Like you're annoying aunt.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yes, but please, if you have a dilemma, you have
a question that you're too embarrassed to put in the
you Beauty Facebook group or your friends, ask us and
we will give you our honest thoughts. But until next time, Bye,
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to you, beauty. I'm
Kelly mccaren and this is The Fix. Now what is
the Fix?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You may ask, Hang on, You've got to introduce me.
I'm Amy Clark, my co host to The Fix. Yes,
and guys, this is a brand new segment that basically
we want to answer your juicy beauty dilemmas.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Think of it like we your beauty agony.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Aren't literally the questions that you're too embarrassed to ask
or you just need some real talk advice, You're going
to be sending them in, So please let us know
if you have any questions. But we are so excited
to get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Just like your rogue aren't that drops in unannounced to visit.
You won't ever know when you're going to get an
episode of the Fix. It's just going to drop into
your feeds when you least expect it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That sounds really exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But first, our beauty headlines. Boy, do we have news
for you. I'm Cass and I'm Sophie. Let's get into it.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So, Kim Kardashian has just launched something pretty crazy faux
hair micro string thongs, and it's basically a Skims branded
G string with pubic hair on the front of it
sewn in.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I feel like this is the beauty news of the week.
I couldn't wait to talk about it. I woke up,
I checked my group chat that was blowing up. All
of my friends were like, what is going on? Then
I went to Instagram and the comments were very much
the same. It was is this an amazing marketing stunt
again from the Kardashians or is this April falls?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Is this a joke?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, exactly, And it's not a prank unfortunately or unfortunately,
depending on what you think of it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It is legit.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It's called a faux hem micro string thong, which is
basically a Skim's G string with faux pubic hare sewn
onto the front of it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So random.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Yes, when I first saw photos, I couldn't believe it.
And then I saw that there was a whole range
and there was different colors and different textures, Whi's just
kind of cool, but also I just thought insane. And
you know, Kim's done something like this before where she's
done the nipple bras, and I get that more, but
this one just felt a little bit too far.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Fetched for me.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It was a big step. The nipple bras were fun.
I think faux pubic hair is very interesting. But then
in saying that there has been such a revival of
pubic hair in public culture, I'm not sure if you've
seen like all the chat going on TikTok Bush's back,
so Bush's back and Vogue literally titled a story called
the Bushes Back in twenty twenty five, which is wild
and Mason Margela on their runway recently they had like
(02:39):
models with pubic hair running down the runway I suppose, So, yeah,
it's all happening. It's a pubic hair department at the moment,
and so so I'm interested for you and your you know,
your group chat. Do people think this is just a
marketing thing.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Well, what I was surprised about is when they said
that it was sold out, does that mean that there
was only thirty for sale and that's why it's sold out?
Because I just can't. I can't imagine me or any
of my friends buying this.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yes, I think it is that like Skim's Effects that
we kind of We've spoken about this before, but everybody's
obsessed with whatever she has to launch, especially if it
is like kind of rogue like the nipple bra that
also sold out. So I think it's just the Skim's
effect that's selling it out. I feel like they would
have made more than thirty. But yeah, it's interesting to
see it fly off the shelves so quickly when it
is so avant garde.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah, and either way, they got us on their website
looking at all the other.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Products, so exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I mean, the Kardashians know what they're doing when it
comes to marketing, and like Mama is like Chris, they
know what they're doing. So I really think she's taken
a page out of Chris's book for this one.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Okay, and speaking of Chris, did you see her new hairstyle?
She went from her iconic hairstyle that everyone knows her
from two blonde.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Literally, I don't know about you, but I didn't absolutely
double take when I saw the photos. She was at
an event also with her daughter, Yes, so they both
had similar cropped Bob's hairfels and Chris's was really super
blonde and Kim's was black. But it was so interesting
to me looking at them side by side, I was like,
these two are literally identical.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Ever since Chris Scott had face lived too, they couldn't
look more like twins exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And also interestingly, it was Kim's hairstylist, Chris Appleton, who
did the look, so I also think you can tell
that that similar touch was across both of the looks,
which is crazy. But so I don't know if this
one's here to stay. If I'm honest, she.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Came out and said blondes have more fun than that
she was going to try it, But yes, I feel
like she's just grown to suit that hairstyle and we
can't not know her wearing that hairstyle.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's not the first time we've seen a Kardashian do
a crazy hair transition, but it is the first time
for Chris.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
So obviously we've got Kylie always changing her hair, Kim
always changing her hair, it feels like it's every week.
But with Chris, Yeah, we've never seen her do a
b transformation like this. So it's like, is this a
week or is this here to stay?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I think it's a weig if I'm honest.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I mean, I had another cheeky look at her grid
this morning and she was back to her classic brunette.
So I feel like a flash in the pan. But
at least she got to live life as a blonde
for a day. So if there's a new tool I
need to talk about desperately, it's Shark's Facial Proglow. Very
fancy name, but it's growing absolutely nuts on TikTok, and
we need to discuss.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, and what does it do.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So basically, it's kind of not a departure for Shark
considering they're a vacuum brand first, so it's kind of
similar to a hydrofacial tool in that it vacuums out
all the gunk from your paws. But it also has
like a heating and cooling element where WI can deepaf
and sculpt the skin. So it's being marketed as a
facial from home, which is interesting considering that we all
did that during COVID for so long.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah. See that scares me because I don't understand that side,
and I'd love to go and get facials and relax.
So the thought of me doing it myself at home
that scares me because I just wouldn't trust myself to
do a facial at home.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And when I've seen lots.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Of influencers online using it, there just seems like there's
lots of different steps, lots of different parts to it.
And I keep remembering that I own the Shark Flex
blow dry tool and it's been a year and I
still don't understand how to properly use that. So I
can't see this being great for me, but I can
see it being great for someone like you who is
very savvy.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I mean, that's a good point, so because they are
quite confusing, and there are so many elements to the
Shark tools, and I think that's what makes the Flex
style so good but also so confusing, because you really
have to know like what each thing does and you
have to like put in the time and effort to
perfect it. And I would say that the Shark proglow
is probably going to be the same and that you're
going to have to spend some time figuring out.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I mean, for me, I don't really.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Like people touching my face that don't know my skin
because it's very sensitive and I just know what up
so I'm keen.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
To try it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
But yeah, at this stage, I think it is for
more people that are getting facials regularly and maybe just
want an easy one from home, rather than just like
the average skin care kind of person that wants to
get into it.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Okay, so I'm assuming it's expensive.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
How much is it? Yeah, it is quite a lot.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So it's retailing in the US at the moment. It's
not available in Australia yet. But knowing Shark, I'd say
it's coming for four hundred dollars USD, which is around
six hundred AED, so it's going to cost you a
pretty penny.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's going to set you back.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think for people that are already doing regular facials,
I mean they can be like two hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Bucks, so that seems good.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, it's actually quite a bargain for them. But if
you're not already doing that, it is a big upfront cost.
I'd say, I mean, I don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So honestly, right now, I don't think that this is
something that I will purchase, especially if it's six hundred dollars.
But that's what I said about an led face mask
and that is what I want on my blush list
for Christmas. So I feel like in a year's time,
who knows what will be exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I think it's one of those tools that's going to
take some education. It's going to take some time, but
eventually we might be on the bandwagon. I mean, lots
of the influences of people in America trying it are
loving it, so I'm really interested. They're saying it reduces
poor size in one go, so it might be easier
than we think.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So let's watch this space. That's a being a goss
for this week.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Guys, let's get back into your dilemmas of Kelly and Amy.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Okay, so question number one is the friend makeup artist dilemma.
Now Lauren DM dust asking help, my help. My friend
is a makeup artist and has done everyone's wedding makeup
in our group, and I think she's just assuming she'll
do mine. The thing is, I really want a more subtle,
natural look for my big day and her style is well,
(07:42):
it's a lot. How do I let her down gently
without causing a friendship catastrophe? Is there a way to
get out of this without hurting her?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Feelings.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Gosh, weddings tensions are hard people here, Yeah, they do
like the worst. Yes, and you can lose friendships over weddings. Thankfully,
I haven't the story for another time not podcast appropriate.
So basically what I would say, there's a few things
(08:12):
that I need to know from Lauren. But I'm hoping
that her wedding isn't in like two weeks two weeks time,
or even a few two months time. I'm hoping that
we're like a year out here.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, maybe she's just gotten engaged and she's already freaking.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Out about it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, I think straight.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Off the bat, you need to at least give her
a try first. I think that's kind of mean. If
you don't at the very least give your friend a try.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, step one would just be in conversation. Yeah, I
need to start organizing my wedding makeup. See if the
friend first is like, oh, I'd love to do it,
And then if that's then you go, okay, cool, Let's
start having some trials. Let's start having a play, give
her a go, like, take lots of reference. I actually
for my wedding makeup had a friend to do it.
(08:57):
I know you did your own I had a colleague
do it, which is actually like an extra layer of like, well, shit,
this could get awkward. Yeah if it's no good. But
because we lived in the same state and because we
were friends, the up side is we could do as
many trials as we wanted, so I reckon we did
maybe four separate occasions. And also because it was like, okay,
(09:19):
the first time we did just the full look and
I was like, this is what I I like.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
This, this is what I don't like.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Also what I thought I would like changed, So you know,
I had all these reference shots that I really wanted
that tiny little eyeliner flick, and I just don't love
how I look with heavy eye makeup or eyeliner. But
I thought, I don't know why, but all my reference
shots had a little wing and all of this. So
we did that. We did for my hens. She came
(09:47):
and did make up, and we did like another foundation trial.
So like that's the upside.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Too, So like it's not going to cost you money, no, exactly,
take over a bottle of wine and be like, let's
get ready for this event together, and can you do
my makeup so we can do a trial? Yeah, I think, yeah,
I definitely think she needs to give her a go
at the very least with a couple of trials, because
she is a makeup artist, so therefore she should be
able to dial it back a little bit and sort
(10:15):
of work with the client, which is that self. So
maybe all of your friends requested a heavier look, or
maybe a lot of brides that she has worked with
wanted that heavier look.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Also, it's worth noting we've had to discuss this before
on podcasts. Even if you don't like makeup and don't
like wearing much makeup, if you want to look outstanding
in your photos, you need to wear more makeup than
you usually would.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Otherwise it just doesn't photograph.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, and it is something you need to get comfortable
with exactly. I would also recommend, just in general, is
whether you've got a few events beforehand, or even if
you just got a dinner or something like, go and
get your makeup done at Mecca or like go and
or just apply more makeup than you would to get
used to how you look with that much makeup on.
That is such a good tip because otherwise you're gonna
(11:01):
look in the mirror and it's like school. I remember
having this with school formal going and getting my makeup
done and then looking in the mirror and being like,
I I've got a mask on.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And you feel gross because you feel all the products
on you.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You just feel like people are looking at you and
be like, she's got so much makeup on, but do
all of that? And then what I would say? So,
let's say you've done all that. Also, wedding makeup is
so expensive. If you've got a mate who can do
it for a great discount, take up that offer, because
there's so many other things that you have to spend
(11:35):
your money on. Okay, So what happens if she's done
the trials and the communications just not communicating, it's just
not working out.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
What would you do in that case? At the end
of the day, it's her wedding, so of course she
should have the makeup that she wants. I do think
that other makeup artists are probably going to do heavier
makeup too, given that it is your wedding.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But if you find.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Someone, you go and do a trial and you absolutely
love them, then I think that you just need to
be honest with your friend and just say, hey, love
you so much. But I'm going to go with this
person just because it is more suited to my face
or whatnot. And like, yes, your friend might be hurt,
but I'm sure she will like it's your wedding, so
(12:21):
and at least she doesn't have to worry about doing
anything on.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The day exactly. Or I was going to say if
you didn't, if you would just really like, Okay, I don't.
I just know that it's not the vibe. And sometimes
sometimes that's the case. But let's just say you know
that it's not going to be the vibe that you want.
Ask her if she would do like your mom's make up,
the mother of the groom or like you know.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
And you're just giving her more work to do, but
like not the glory of the bride.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But maybe she just maybe the friend just wants to
be involved and wants to feel like she's a part
of the day. Like I don't know if this is
like a bridesmaid level friend we're talking about, if she's
a bridesmaid, just be like I need you on other things.
I want you. Oh yeah, make her.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
A bridesmaid so she doesn't do perfect okay.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And then you're actually the maid of honor now you're.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Actually you can do all of the other bridesmaids makeup,
but I just I want you to focus on all
of that.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'll have someone else just to do mine.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, like you're doing her a favor.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah you are. You're just such a good friend.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, okay, solved next. All right, So our second dilemma
the ex's skincare products. I mean, I think this one
will take about two seconds to answer. Let's get the
both of us were just like so our next admission
(13:42):
is anonymous from Melbourne. Also, can I just say Lauren?
I hope that's a fake name, because I wonder if
she's going to be easily identifiable Anyways, that's not our problem.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's not our problem.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So the makeup articxt friend listens to this episode, it's like,
what the back.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
At our anonymous mate from Melbourne says, my boyfriend and
I recently broke up condolences, and he left all of
his skincare products at my place. We're talking a bunch
of super expensive stuff and I'm not gonna lie. I've
been using it. I'm now completely hooked on his face
wash and serums. Should I just keep it or do
(14:17):
I need to offer to give it back. I feel
like a total thief. And also I really want to
keep it. He did me dirty at the end of
the relationship. You're using it like you're keeping it?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is she anonymous?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Anon, you're an overthinker. I think, who, oh my goodness,
they're yours. Who cares? Not a chance? Are you giving
those back? No?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And also, you know what you're not doing. You're not
reaching out to him to ask if he would like
it back.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
His expensive skincare products back. Well, you're gonna then give
them back half empty.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
If it was like he'd left his iPad, yeah, or
like his simply hold, or like an heirloom piece of jewelry,
like maybe if you're going to be the bigger person. No,
absolutely not. I also want to know what it was.
I'm really curious as to what the products were, So
if Anon wants to just follow that up, let us know.
(15:11):
Just because it's a bit pervian, I want to know.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, what are these amazing expensive skincare products. If he
ever does get in touch and asks them back, you
can either A just not respond because you don't owe
him anything, or B just be like, oh, it was
just your staff and I don't think you want it,
so I chucked it out. You owe him nothing, No,
owe him absolutely nothing. No, he's clearly taken part of
(15:33):
your time, potentially some of your dignity, your heart, take
his skincare.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And also he probably found out about those products through you,
as in like he probably learned about skincare by being
with you. It's always the way we trained them up,
and then off they go to the next person.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Exactly question number three, the unsolicited advice. This one's getting
my backup. I think it's getting your back up too,
and known as well from Sydney. I have a friend
who is the absolute sweetest, but she has a full
on beard and mustache.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Why didn't you mustache?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah? I don't know. I've always said mustache in a
mustache mustache. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I just think the word mustache is really funny. Okay,
my other friends and I talk about it, and we
can't figure out if she doesn't notice or doesn't care.
We're all in our mid twenties and obsessed with TikTok
beauty hacks, and I'm honestly wondering if I should talk
to her about it. Is there a gentle way to
bring it up or is this one of those things
where you just have to let it be. I'm worried
it might be affecting her confidence, but I'm also worried
(16:42):
about totally embarrassing her for saying something.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, Sydney and On tell you, who isn't the absolute
sweetest you go just let rip.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Well, I just think you're not actually worried about your
friend's confidence, Otherwise you wouldn't be bitching about her beard
behind her back.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, this one is I'm cringing even thinking about how
that conversation would even go.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Just don't like.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I just think unless she has a medical condition that
has affected her eyesight, or she's got really poor eyesight
and doesn't wear glasses or contacts, she's well aware that
she's hairy.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Okay, we know as a fellow hairy lass, we know
that they are. We are very hairy. Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We don't need you and your other and our other
hairless friends bitching about our hairiness.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Behind our back. We know, and we would ask you
know what as well. There's a reason why she probably
hasn't asked you.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I love that the fingers up, Oh, I've got the
finger pointing and one other thing, one other thing.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Bearded lady, come and be friends with me. I won't
make fun of your beard.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But just in all seriousness, because, like you know, there's
lots of reasons why people might have fasuettes hair. Yeah,
genetics exactly, it might be hormone or even if your
body's gone through a massive change like that can all
throw your hair out of.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Why well, you just might be hairy. Hello, I have
to tweeze every single day.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, I mean I have, Like I'm fair, so I
am one of those blessed people where you don't see
the hair necessarily. Maybe it's shining in the studio light.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It possibly could because I'm fair too, but you can see.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, I like my husband will often kind of like
lovingly be like, oh, there's your mustache when it catches
the sunlight.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
How nice of him?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Anon? Is your husband? Actually? And he's changed his friends,
he meant his wife, he's actually and it wustache.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
But I know, like I see it every time I
look in the mirror, especially when I use our powder
room downstairs with the overhead lights shining. I see that
mustache and I don't like and I just I don't care.
I don't care enough, so, as Kelly said, the person
knows I would absolutely not be bringing it up unless
(19:10):
they unless they do, unless they have made a comment
in the past, or maybe they've like made a bit
of a joke about it at some stage on multiple occasions.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And you can totally say something like Amy's just pointed
out her own mustache.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So then it now Kelly to say, oh, did you
know taking it?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And I would say I have something you have Yeah, yeah, God,
gosh darn it, ye Devil's advocate.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
They could potentially yeah, absolutely, like absolutely every like different
strokes for different folks, but also like they could potentially
The person who wrote in said that they are all
obsessed with.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
TikTok beauty hags, Like if you really wanted to do something,
you could like share a video of one of those
creators putting no.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That's even meaner. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
The funny thing is, though, where because I get so
arked up about this yet. I if if someone had
a really smelly cowork, I wouldn't be opposed to putting
deodoran on.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That absolutely, But then that's affecting.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You because you have to smell it and you can't concentrate.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
But yes, I think hygiene related things is different because.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It affects you and then you can't concentrate on other things.
But her hairy face doesn't affect you at all. And
if you say that, you have to look at your bitch,
because that's.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
What I'm thinking. I'm like preempting.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, anyway, sorry, Sydney, and I'm sure that you're actually
a nice person, but I.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Just don't say anything as a fellow hairy gal.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It just upset me that people are talking about their
hairy gal behind your back.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Finally, we have a post baby body dilemma. So this
submission is another a non from Adelaide, my hometown.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Fair enough, when they're emailing the agony ants, they want
a non.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Oh yeah, I like, I have no judgment to a non.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We know, and I actually love a noon because it means, like,
tell us what you really need to know. Yeah, So
a none says I'm a new mum and I'm struggling
with the changes to my body, especially the excess skin
on my tummy. I love my baby more than anything,
but when I look in the mirror, I don't recognize myself.
My friends tell me it's a Badge of honor quote unquote,
(21:23):
but I just feel really uncomfortable. Is there anything I
can do for this? Or do I just have to
accept this as my new normal. I'll throw it to
you first, Kelly, because you are a mum, so I
feel like, let's you get the first rid of reply.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Okay, that's nice of you.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Firstly, I feel like I need a little bit more
context of how new of a mum you are, because
if you're really new, I mean regardless, I think that
you need to be kind to yourself, like bodies do
not just bounce back overnight, however much Hollywood tells us.
I also would like to know your age, because that also,
funnily enough, has so much do with it, with how
(22:02):
much like quickly your skin does go back.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And its age is actually probably more important than like
your previous If you had a six pack before, that
doesn't mean that you're automatically going to have this tight
six pack.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Especially I would say, if you're say thirty five and older,
your skin it simply does not have the collagen an
elasticity that it does if you'll say twenty three, So
it like it potentially will never go back. And I'm
going to use the word normal, I mean normal for
you what you looked like before you had a baby.
So please, if you hear me use that word, I
(22:37):
simply mean before you have a baby. I was older,
I was in my mid thirties when I had lend
Or thirty three, same thing, and my body did not
go back to what it was prior. I am in
a smaller body than I was before. I felt pregnant
thanks to racing around after a toddler, but growing he
(23:00):
was huge.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He was so big.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
My tummy stretched so much, and I do have loose
skin and like a lot of stretch marks on my
tummy that will not like it's been three years, so
they're definitely not going to go away now, which is
why I also want to know how old the baby
is though, because it does take time. Yes, my skin
definitely did go back somewhat after a year or so.
You can take it away now and then we can
(23:24):
sort of get into the options.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But I get it. It does feel weird, and you know,
I'm the first person to go.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yes, it's like just a beautiful sign that that was
the house that you grew your baby in. But I
also totally get sometimes I do think it'd be nice
to wear a bikini. Yeah, Like I've got a lovely
flat stomach at the moment, but I wouldn't wear a
bikini because it's do you know, the talking tummy not
with skin.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Sorry, it was.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Really a brass that was frightening.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
We've got like a lot, there's a lot happening there.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, And like it's so interesting because like that doesn't
have a thought about how their body looks, regardless of
whether they're a size six, a size twenty six, that
they're conventionally attractive whatever, man, woman, whatever, Like.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Literally could not agree.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, Like I relate to this on a personal level
because like I've had bariatric surgery, gastric sleeve and that
was that was five for almost six years ago now,
So the loose skin like that will never be going
away unless it's literally slashed off my body, which I
probably will do that at some point. I'm thinking, like
post if I'm you know, blessed enough to have a kid,
(24:40):
like I would one percent be you know, having my
arms and stomach looked at, because that's what would make
me feel just like better. But I've also been living
with this loose skin for like five years now. And
it doesn't stop me from doing my everyday activities. It
doesn't stop me from wearing bathers, swimmers and all of that.
(25:01):
But the thing is is that, yeah, there's no creams.
There's no cream Some lasers would help a little bit,
depending on the severity of the loose skin, like laser
would probably help with mine or stretch marks. And also
the other thing I was gonna say, I think this
comes down to how you feel about it as well.
Comes down to whether you had stretch marks before already,
(25:22):
Like my body has had all sorts of stripes and
things going on since I was probably like fourteen years old,
because you've situated a little bit, yeah, because of growth
spurts and things like that. If you're the kind of
person that never has had stretch marks before and then
you get them, that is quite confronting, especially because they're
super angry looking when you first get them, and then obviously,
like mine are all lack a lovely silvery you know,
(25:46):
lines that just hit the light nicely.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
But when you first get them, you're so right, they
are cranky looking.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, they look they look red and angry. But there's
the skin, especially skin in large areas like that across
the stomach. We get a lot of questions in the
U Beauty Facebook group about loose skin on the neck
and around kind of this the double chin area, and
like this is its thinner skin. It is like a
(26:16):
smaller area. So like if you're using say a vitamin
a body treatment like that can like help reduce the appearance.
It's not gonna like nothing's gonna be like a facelift
or like having surgery, but that can help. However, so
you could you could use that kind of thing on
(26:38):
your stomach, but it's not gonna have you just gotta
be realistic about the expectation about the results you're gonna get.
That might help. As you said, a laser for like
the appearance of stretch marks can help. It is expensive,
like you've got to go. It's not like a one
and done treatment.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Times just to go get a bit of a tuck
well or what have you looked into it?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
How much is it?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I haven't yet, but it's probably it'll be an investment.
It'll be an investment that's more just like a I mean,
I hey, who knows, but by the time I get there,
maybe I'm gonna be oh, fuck it. Whatever, I'm too tired.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Well honestly, that's how I feel. Like, Yes, I look
at my stomach and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But coming into yeah, but coming into summer like this
time of year, I won one hundred percent like empathize
and know what it feels like to be on the
beach and to just be like, I've got this skin
hanging off me and I feel like, you know, I
want to run in the water or I want to
do you know, I want to wear the strappy tops
and I'm like, you know, reaching for the bus and
(27:41):
there it's fluffing away.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But like, did you see that TikTok I shared not
longer where it was swing swing?
Speaker 3 (27:47):
She actually she was like, I can't afford skin removal surgery,
so I got I can't afford a tatoo, So she
got a tattoo of a lady swinging on her arm skin.
So it just like, you know, she's got a sense
of humor.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, I have so much loose skin that literally like
I can't if I dance too hard, like it's slapping together.
So a party trick if you yes. Literally, But what
I would say is one thing I wanted to recommend
in terms of like I just want to recommend some
swimwear and maybe because I'm just thinking that, like this
is coming up and its topical, like I swear by
(28:23):
I have. I think it's is it Uni piece or
yes piece I have. I actually prefer to wear a
two piece, like I've tried one piece of thinking that
that's gonna make me feel more confident about my stomach.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But I actually feel sexier in a two piece. He
looks so good in a two piece.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, it's like high waisted with like one of those
like balconet like bra cup swimming.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It kind of like pushes everything up.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Shoes, everything up. I feel like Marilyn Monroe or the.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Run in the ocean.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Then yeah, I mean I do whatever, Like honestly, you
once you get down there, no what Yeah a reminder
no one is looking at you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, or they might to be like, oh where did
she get her swimsuit or whatnot? Like yeah, or you're
not going to remain.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
In anyone, absolutely not. But the other one too is
like the boy like boy of short. But baths are
really in at the moment, Like I have a great
pair from Kmart that I wore while I was overseas
a lot that kind of like shorts with a little
high waist short that also would like eat with whatever
(29:27):
top you want, but like that with then something a
bit more like a triangle on the top. Cute, very sexy.
But yes, long story short, there is nothing you can
do for that loose skin on your stomach unless you
are gonna go and invest and have like, you know,
a cosmetic which curt.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Probably can't do it the moment.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Anyway, if you're a new mum, yeah, like if when
someone says a new mum, I'm assuming the baby's like
only a few months old.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, give it a bit, give it some time to
like come to grips with this new you, because yeah,
looking in the mirror, it can be very disorientating to
be like, this person that I'm looking at doesn't look
like however you used to tell me talk. Yeah, and
you know, but at the end of the day, your
feelings are valid. But yeah, I hope that has been
(30:13):
helpful for hour and on and I hope that she's
like enjoying being a mum, yeah, like and soaking it up.
Oh and maybe getting some sleep. I don't know, what
do your moms do?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, that's that's a good advice. Thank you. That's all.
We'll be back in your ears and eyes.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Who knows when. Like we said, it'll just be when
you least expect it.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Like you're annoying aunt.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yes, but please, if you have a dilemma, you have
a question that you're too embarrassed to put in the
you Beauty Facebook group or your friends, ask us and
we will give you our honest thoughts. But until next time, Bye,
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