October 12, 2025 • 25 mins
Tired of the social media hype around invasive beauty treatments? This week, Kelly and guest host Amy Clark are serving up some hard truths. They're pulling back the curtain on the procedures they've tried and wouldn't do again, revealing the real story on the pain level of PDO threads and why they think microdermabrasion is officially a thing of the past. If you've ever been tempted by a 'vampire facial,' you need to hear this first.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on Makeup is my Therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm in love, I'm obsessed and I don't even feel
guilty about it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I just looked at you and started giggling. Today's going
to be one of those days, is it?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Welcome to you, beauty. This is the podcast for your Face.
I'm Kelly McCarran.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
And I'm Amy Clark, back up from Melbourne to fill
in for our wonderful Lee. I'm just so happy to
be here.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If you're listening, please go over to YouTube because Amy
just looks like a beautiful ray of sometimes.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
So did my makeup on the plane?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I wasn't sure. I did a thing on my Instagram
to say do we think this is gross or is
this acceptable?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I think it's fine as long as you're not using
powder products that then the particles go everywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I use brushes and I always wipe down the tray
table first, but plane window seating best lighting from.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
MAKA Great Well, there's Amy's beauty bye straight up in
the episode, So in case you missed it or you
you here or whatever. On Monday's we answer your questions.
So if you do have a question, let us know.
You can email us, you can DM us whatever you want.
We'll put all of the details in the show notes.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But first let's get into what's trending in beauty.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Welcome back to the Beauty Edit, Beauty lovers. I'm Cass
momma MEAs morning editor and beauty nerd, and today I'm
dishing out all the news you need to know this.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Week, and I'm Sophie, producer of You Beauty, here to
ask all the questions you might be wondering about what's
going on in the beauty world this week.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Stop right now. Thank you very much. Victoria beck in
Beauty is landing in Mecca this month.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Cass, I'm actually so happy that this is real. My
mind immediately went to the fact that we finally will
not have to pay those insane shipping fees.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yes, we can say goodbye to the shipping cost, which
is really exciting because the products are a little bit
on the Spanni side, so I'm a Spice Girl's fan,
absolutely same, and it's a win for us and those
who loved Posh as a child because we can now
relive that into adulthood. And I mean this is one
of the most searched celebrity beauty brands in the world,
so it is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, it's a huge deal.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
So the question I'm sure all the ubs are wondering
is when can I get my hands on this?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So this's not long to wait. The brand hits Meca
instore and online on October twenty first this year, so
get your shopping lists ready, sove I'm going to be
focusing a lot on eye products given that her signature
look is a smoky eye, so we know that her
satin kajal liners not to be confused with coal, which
would probably mostly be familiar with, are coming, alongside her
(02:46):
viral posh lipsticks, the reflect highlighter stick, and the cult
favorite cell Rejuvenating priming moisturizer, which is a mouthful but
it was co created with Augustinus Beta no less, So
it's a big deal. But I think this is such
a win for UB's if you want to kind of
swatch and get a feel for the range without the
international shipping hassle. So start budgeting now.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Okay for our next headline, Insomniac Li, could your favorite
perfume be the secret to finally falling asleep. Okay, cas,
I need your expect take on this one. I always
thought perfume for was going out on the town having
a date night, not for going to bed. So is
spraying my expensive scent before bed a really smart move?
Or am I just wasting my really expensive perfume?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I think it's really important to understand the science on
this one. But no, in short, it's not a waste.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So recently Lorna McKay, who's the co founder of the
Perfume Society, told stylists that sense affect our mood, particularly
in the brain and our nervous system, so soothing sense
literally tell our body it's time to rest. In twenty
twenty four, research has found that menopausal women given lavender
before bed slept better. But it's not just lavender, which
is good people who don't love lavender.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Interestingly, a twenty twenty two study found that the more
pleasant and the odor was, the more likely people were
to report a good sleep, regardless of the particular notes
that we used themselves.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Okay, so basically a cent can literally tell our brain
it's time to calm down.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So They call this the cocooning effect, and these scents
signal to our nervous system that it's safe to switch off.
But the key is finding a scent that is naturally soothing.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Okay, so what notes should I be looking for?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Surely I'm not wearing my really heavy ambercent to bed
that night.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It depends on what you would call pleasant, because that
was the term they used in the study, So it's broad.
But there are some beloved calming powerhouses that people love.
So lavenders we've discussed, but camamils, sandalwood, jasmine, soft vanilla,
and we can also look for those skin sense that
live close to the skin, so those are kind of
musky fragrances and they can feel really comforting and intimate.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, okay, that makes sense. So is this going to
be the next big thing in the beauty category then it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Kind of already is. High end houses like Joe Malone
have already launched dedicated collections. They have a night collection
which features notes like camimal, lavender, and moonflower, and it's
kind of positioned as a luxury evening ritual, a transition
from your busy day to a RESTful night with.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Fragrance okay, and so we've got the scent, we know
what we should be looking for. Where a this scent
on my pillow?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's what you think, but actually the experts say it's
better on your skin or on your clothes because then
the scent moves with you throughout the night as opposed
to just being on your pillow, which is very stagnant.
And it's the key to maintaining a serene atmosphere and
a peaceful sleep. So ditch the pillow spray and just
go for your usual perfume.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Okay, I love that.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Plus, my group chat keeps going off because apparently go
To are bringing out a new fragrance. So basically the
fragrance world is just blowing up at the moment. This
is the new thing, exactly, sign me up go To
And for our last headline, Casts, ditch the minimalism. Gordy
glam has replaced quiet luxury as pop culture's new beauty vibe.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, Sophie, get ready, because we are talking about a
major vibe shift and cult beauty trends and I think
you can love it.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, what are we talking about? Casts?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Are we talking about embracing too much makeup?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Pretty much.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So we've had years of the whole quiet, luxury, no
makeup makeup and it's just a little bit boring. So
the tide is turning, and it's doing so with our
celebrity icons, so Doja Cat, Taylor Swift, Serena Carbonder, they're
all kind of saying more is more with their looks
lately and pulling some serious inspo from the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And I mean we've seen this everywhere. Taylor Swift's promo
shots for her Life of a show Girl, she had
Ryan Stones everywhere, dramatic, full makeup. It's definitely a massive
shift from her softer eras full on.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Aesthetic U turn. And we all became obsessed with Pamela
Anderson when she ditched her makeup. I can't stop watching
tiktoks online of people's you know, very relaxed makeup routines.
It's really cool to watch. But I think we're ready
for something more exciting. And Gordi Glam is all about
ditching that either or rule. You don't have to pick
between a bold lip or a bold eye. I mean,
before we weren't even doing either. Now you can do both.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Now we can do both I'm so excited. I feel
like this works really well with somemmer. We're ready to
ditch the saddle colors, ditch the soft blending, and go
big exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And it was all over the runways at Paris Fashion Weeks,
so feathers were everywhere. It was about texture, movement, drama,
and now we're bringing that to beauty. That's all your
beauty news for the week. Let's get back into your
dilemmas with Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Thanks for those headlines. Now for our first question, I.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Couldn't help for wonder ask me anything.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
You ask plenty questions. So first we have from Amelia,
who emailed us hi ub team. So I'm curious, what
are some beauty procedures or treatments you'd never try. I
feel like I get so caught up in the hype
and when I see on social media without doing proper research.
Would love to hear your thoughts on what's worth avoiding.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's so funny, isn't it? Because I read this question
from Amelia and I had a bit of a giggle
because I'm such a rat elaborate, like I'm a labrat.
I'm so happy to always take one for the team
and try pretty much anything and report back. I just
feel like that is part of my duty being Yeah,
(07:54):
the host here. I used to be like that. Oh,
she's like, I don't take my job very seriously. No,
I'm not being a labrat anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, well I used to. But then if you've got
skin issues, Yeah, so back in the day, I would
do anything whatever. Now I'm a little bit more selective,
only because again, I just know how much pain it's
going to cause if my perioral dermatitis flairs up, which
I am a bit more cautious.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We touched on in Amy's the Formula episode. We can
leave that in the show notes if you fancy listening,
because out of nowhere, your skin just had a bit
of a.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Flare up, and then it just now it's just something
that will flare up at different times, if you're stressed,
if you're like, haven't been sleeping, just the usual life stuff.
But is there anything that you wouldn't try?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I definitely wouldn't try the plasma treatment, the face treatment
where they take your blood like they facial I would
do that. Yeah, I absolute wouldn't because I hate blood
and I hate it. Oh okay, so the idea of
a needle with my own blood then like yuck, I
can't even We've done a couple of episodes, and I
remember I did a deep dive onto that treatment once.
(09:03):
And I actually when I was interviewing, I can't even
remember who I was interviewing because I couldn't pay attention.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Did you out?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I actually took my headphones off at one point and
was only half listening. That's how bad it was. And
I was so dizzy even having the conversation about the treatment. Wow, okay,
so that's a definite no.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But apart from that, there wasn't really that much that.
I mean, I wouldn't really just do anything invasive for
the sake of it. For if I was going to
do something invasive, it's something that I have thought about
for a long time. I'd personally want to do, But
just your everyday treatments, it's more so that i'd be
selective about where I went.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yes, that was one of my things, so I guess,
and I don't want this to come across a certain
way everyone to themselves. But when my friends asked me
about where should I go and get laiser? Where should
get skin treatments? I generally say, don't book a pack
of five or go somewhere where you're going to get
like disponded by thing, because you never know what your
(10:05):
skin's going to be like on that day. Like I
just always think it's much better to go with the
approach of having the consultation. Like just because you had
a laser treatment three weeks ago doesn't mean then your
skin's gonna want it this time. So that's just something
that I personally wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Do unless it was like LED or something.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Really yes, absolutely LED, like book that literally I love
how you can book as well those express like it's
like fifty bucks and you can go under it for
twenty minutes or like a pack of ten for provens
and things like that. But for things like Fraxal Clear
and Brilliant skin needling, there's a lot of places that do.
And not to say that all of those places are bad,
(10:43):
but there are a few that I think you kind
of it's more just an approach to getting treatments that
I wouldn't do. The other thing I wouldn't do now
is microdemibration.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Have you done it? Though?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I have?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So that's where because I was like, there's things that
I wouldn't do again. Microdermibration is definitely.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, only because I think there's better, more modern treatments
out there now for resurfacing.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's very old see it is old school.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
But other than that, that's pretty much.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You've got pdo threads on yours, which I also agree with.
I've done it, but I wouldn't do it again because
I don't think And the funny thing is is that
I'm on the record of saying that, oh my goodness,
the results are incredible. I loved it so much. But
I'm also on the record saying that it was one
of the most painful treatments I've ever had done, and
I don't think that the results last long enough to
justify the pain.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Pdo threads. I mean, Kelly's had them done, but essentially
it's like dissolvable stitch bitch that kind of helps to
lift the infrastructure of the skin.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And it works like I've got before and after that,
I who but a year really for that much pain?
It was agony.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, it looks hectic. Maybe one day.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Never say never, never said it, but I agree there's
better and a lot of people won't do them anymore
because they're so expensive, they're so time consuming.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I probably would just go for one of the this.
In like ten years time, I'm probably having the Christian
and deep plane face lift over like pdo threads. Yeah,
once a year for the next ten years.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I don't think you need oh oh instead of yeah, okay,
that makes sense. I'm like, I don think you need
a facelift every year. Amy, That's not how it works.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You're right. I like that you knew what I had
written down and I'd forgotten about it. Yeah, Pedo threads,
I'm just like, don't feel like it. And I've done
Reduran and I've got actually two more Reduran treatments coming up.
So that's that that leff like the salmon.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Sperm under the eyes good for dark.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Seven DNA guys.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
That's we're calling it Reduran, not juking off salmon.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
No, we've moved on from the like the weirdness term
of salmon sperm. But I've got two more of that
to go, and that seems to be fine but filler.
In general, I wouldn't do it because I don't need
it number one, but also I'm a bit nervous about it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
My grading stuff that's come out lately. I actually I
know what you mean. I'd be very curious. I've had
little bits here and there over the I'd be very
in to see my face under one of those things,
to see if it's not dissolved and it's just moved everywhere.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Some people say that it stays in. It could stay
in the lip for like seven years. So I wouldn't
do that. But things I would do on the flip side,
and that I do do injectibles, you know, anti wrinkle injectibles, needling.
I don't do needling that much, but I would do it,
and I have done. I love like a frax or
(13:36):
a clear and brilliant session. I did that in the
lead up to my wedding. It's ouchy, but that is
really great if you're like a freckly sun damaged person
like me. Laser Genesis is a great like entry level treatment,
really good for pretty much everything. Oh and I love
a good peel, like if I'm having a skin treatment.
(13:56):
I love a pel and LED of course.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
We love LED. I also actually me, I'm a lovebrod.
I'll do anything. I wouldn't do one of those hectic
pills or lasers that require fair bit of downtime. I
might do it if I really wanted it, but it
would be not just me being elabright, Like, I'd have
to really lock that in and make sure, probably next
(14:18):
winter or something when I don't want to go out
for a while after, just because it also looks very painful.
It's not that I care what I look like when
I go out. I've gone out looking like Freddy Krueger,
but post needling, oh, I've looked so ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And got that.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, sometimes you're in your in the mindset for like
a bit of no pain, no gain, and then other
times I have gone to have a skin treatment, I've gone, oh,
I've actually got some shit going on, and I just
don't feel emotionally ready for something painful. But what I
would say to Amelia in general is just take the
extra time to do your research, especially if you're spending
(14:54):
your own money. You know it's your face, especially, just like,
do a bit of research and make sure it's the
right kind of treatment for you, and then go forth
do whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And you don't need that many things true, don't just
go try everything. Find one person that you trust that
you have a good connection with as much as you
can sort of have a connection with someone that does
your facials, and don't just start chopping and changing and
doing everything like you could damage your skin barrier at
(15:24):
the very least, and at the worst, you could actually
cause some harm by trying a lot of different things.
So I know that it can be tempting and when
you see different ads for things or just see people
raving about things, but nine times out of ten, you
don't need it. Agreed, all right, Next up, we've got
another juicy question. I love this question, right, such a
(15:47):
good question. Ali sent us a DM on Insta saying
a question for the pot if you could choose one
of those five umbrella companies and shop only the brands
owned by them, which one would it be? And why
I'm going first? Wait, you've got two. That's cheating.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah you can't, but we.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Can go first. But I want to not everyone restening.
Not everyone listening knows what well, even I sort of
had to google it to remind to myself, So I
will quickly just want absolutely the five umbrella companies. Not
all beauty brands fit unto these, but I would say
ninety percent yes of them, ten to two. So number one,
we've got the s Day Lader Companies, So brands like
(16:31):
these aren't all of them, but just a lot of
the main ones s Day Lauder, mac Clinique, Bobby Brown,
lamur Avida, Joe Malone, tom Ford, two Face, Doctor Jart
and the Ordinary. Then we have the Laurel Group, which
are brands like Laurel, Maybolene and Yex, Garnia, Lung com Keels, Ysl, Georgio, Armani,
Urban Decay, skin sutical Sarah v Laroche, Pose Vishi and
(16:55):
redkn We have p Andng, Procter and Gamble, Olay, Panteen,
Head and Shoulders, herbal Essences, SKI two. Is that how
you pronounce SK two? Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I know every time I love at you pronounce it bad.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So I'm such a beauty snob.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Old Spice and Gillette Gillette.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Oh I don't know about that. Okay, Uni leaves the
man can the best a man can get.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Unilever, Dove, Treasume, Sun Silk, Vacline, Simple Ponds Ourglass. Then
we have Cody, Cover, Girl, Rimel, Max Factor, Bourgeois, Kylie Cosmetics,
and then like a lot of the fragrances are under them.
So now you can go first.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, it's so it's wild, how yeah, basically, and I
feel like in the next however many years like this
will slowly it's like there's five big groups and then
it's just gonna Shessato is actually another like one that's
quite relatively big as well as I feel like Elf
with Road and all of that. But yeah, it's crazy
to think just how many brands are all owned by
(18:01):
the same company. So I am cheating, as Kelly said,
but whatever, skin care and haircare Larel reason being that,
like I've got in that mix for Laurel, I've got
skin suiticles. So if i want to do my cef
Rule serum, which I'm always buying on sale by the way,
(18:22):
never full price, or I want to do my serav
laurs Pose SPF that skin care ticked off. And then
hair care. Kerastars is one of the brands that you
didn't mention, like I'm gonna do Kerastars.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Who are they under Lorel? Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Sorry okay, Laurel and Garnia as well, so like I
can do like I love a good Garnia as I
know you do as well hair care product, but Kerastars
is like one of my just favorite hair care brands
if money was no object, So I do that, and
then but makeup, like I like maybe Lene, and I
like my Nix and ix Nicks lip products. But when
(19:02):
I was thinking about the products that I use the most,
they're probably from brands like Mac like my face and
body foundation blushes, Bobby Brown, like my corrective stick.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I feel like I could really be quite.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Happy to use just Bobby Brown, Mac and Clinique makeup.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, that's all well and good, but I do feel
like you cheated because the rule was one. So I
would choose the Laurel group because yes, I love Bobby Brown,
I love OLEA, love lots of other brands that are
under the other umbrellas. But I'm a good girl, and
I'm just choosing Lorel because I think that they've got
the most diverse and also the most amount of brands
to play with.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And probably they'll have more and more brands.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Exactly because they've got so much money they just keep
buying them. Plus they are frequently recognized for ethical business practices.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I loved see there's gotta be one rule breaker on
the show. Usually you're probably the rule. Actually, yeah, and
then now I can be them.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You can I'm the one. Like No, it was also
looking up the ethical practices of all of them, because
I thought that does come into it, Yeah, in terms
of who you can only shop with for the rest
of your life anyway, that's a great question. I thought
it was just so juicy.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, loved it.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
All right, Amy. Beauty Bite.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
My beauty bite is actually for anyone out there who
is struggling with like seasonal skin changes, like this time
of year, like hey fever, We've got like shit blowing
around in the wind. That's like getting in my eyes
and getting in my nose and flaring up my you
know thing that I always need to talk about, which
is my perioral dermatitis. So I want to do two
(20:42):
little hacks for our seasonally affected ubi's.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I'm also oh yeah, yeah, so thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Tell me number one for running eyes. I'm not saying
anything ultra new here, but if you're not using tubula mascara,
switch to a tubula for this time of year when
your eyes are running. I just love the m CO
the MC beauty, the extend slash, but that will not
come off when your eyes are running. When you've got tears,
(21:10):
you know, leaking down the side. Of your face. So
that's number one, and then number two for my perioral dermatitis. Friends,
this is a little hack that lets you still use
all your other fun skin care products without kind of
aggravating and looking after this area. So what I do
when I'm applying my skin care, for example, when I
have a flare up, like my vitamin C serum, that's
(21:32):
no good. Even my sun's screen gets a bit spicy,
just like because it's only this area. And for anyone listening,
it's that like nasy triangle, yeah, Bermuda triangle, your front
of your nose, your smile lines. Around me, it's the
corners of my mouth so crusty.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And it's got that so bad at the moment too,
like just around his mouth just so red.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah. And so what I like to do is before
I put any serums on, I get my larosch Poseesica
plus B five or like I use an even soothing
recovery cream moisturizer. Put down a layer of your moisturizer
over any of those affected areas. So I just literally
gort over my mouth, then mirror, and then I go
(22:20):
and apply my serums to the rest of my face.
And that it gives a buffer there, so sometimes just
having that buffer is enough. And because if I don't
do it, sometimes products still migrate or you're so trying
to be so careful with the application, but it can
still migrate and the tiny thing can set it off.
So that's just like a little, a little tip so
(22:40):
we can keep using our serums and our skin care
even when we're flaring. I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That was great. I loved that it's yours mine is.
This morning, I was doing my makeup and I didn't
do anything differently. I did my skincare the way that
I often do. I then did my makeup the way
that I often do. I didn't use any new products
or techniques, and I was looking at my makeup and
I was like, whoa, you have already separated in so
(23:11):
many different areas, Like it was just not playing nice
on my face, and I didn't have any time to
fix it. So I just was like, oh, whatever it is,
what it is. It's just going to look a little
bit shit today. And three people have already complimented my makeup.
And so this is just a reminder that because we
(23:33):
often get questions or dms about oh my makeup separating
and all this is happening on my skin, and it's
just a reminder that no one is ever looking at
your skin in the detail, that you are looking at
you that closely to notice that your makeup has separated,
(23:54):
or that your skin's a little bit crusty in an
area exactly a giant pimple that's bright red. Probably people
notice that, but that's okay, Yeah, it's just a big pimple.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I love that. And also because like for example, when
you're seeing people day today, you're not unless you know,
you're really close.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Or you're weird and you're paying so much attention.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You're no one's talking to you, stood right up to
your face, and it's like, I look at you from here, grunts,
I don't have my glasses on. I'm looking at you,
and I see overall glow. I see the blush. I
see how the light is reflecting off the highlight and
the lips. I don't see pause or exactly any crust
(24:36):
or any.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
If you looked closely and you were trying to look
for it, of course you would see that I'm a
bit crusty, and it's all separated in between my eyebrows
and on my chin, and in like next to my nose,
where I've also had some acne breakouts. I've also got
my periods, so that could be part of the reason why.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Oh, you're really going through it this morning.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You Yeah, it's just because we get so caught up
in details and oh little hairs on our chins and
that sort of thing. No one is looking, no one
is paying that much attention to our face the way
that we are, So it's just a little remind it's
to be nice to yourself when you're worrying about things. Thanks,
cal if you have a question, like I said, we'll
(25:15):
pop everything in the show notes and we'll be back
in your eyes and ease next week. Bye bye.
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges
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is recorded on Makeup is my Therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm in love, I'm obsessed and I don't even feel
guilty about it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I just looked at you and started giggling. Today's going
to be one of those days, is it?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Welcome to you, beauty. This is the podcast for your Face.
I'm Kelly McCarran.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
And I'm Amy Clark, back up from Melbourne to fill
in for our wonderful Lee. I'm just so happy to
be here.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If you're listening, please go over to YouTube because Amy
just looks like a beautiful ray of sometimes.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
So did my makeup on the plane?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I wasn't sure. I did a thing on my Instagram
to say do we think this is gross or is
this acceptable?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I think it's fine as long as you're not using
powder products that then the particles go everywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I use brushes and I always wipe down the tray
table first, but plane window seating best lighting from.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
MAKA Great Well, there's Amy's beauty bye straight up in
the episode, So in case you missed it or you
you here or whatever. On Monday's we answer your questions.
So if you do have a question, let us know.
You can email us, you can DM us whatever you want.
We'll put all of the details in the show notes.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But first let's get into what's trending in beauty.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Welcome back to the Beauty Edit, Beauty lovers. I'm Cass
momma MEAs morning editor and beauty nerd, and today I'm
dishing out all the news you need to know this.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Week, and I'm Sophie, producer of You Beauty, here to
ask all the questions you might be wondering about what's
going on in the beauty world this week.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Stop right now. Thank you very much. Victoria beck in
Beauty is landing in Mecca this month.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Cass, I'm actually so happy that this is real. My
mind immediately went to the fact that we finally will
not have to pay those insane shipping fees.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yes, we can say goodbye to the shipping cost, which
is really exciting because the products are a little bit
on the Spanni side, so I'm a Spice Girl's fan,
absolutely same, and it's a win for us and those
who loved Posh as a child because we can now
relive that into adulthood. And I mean this is one
of the most searched celebrity beauty brands in the world,
so it is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, it's a huge deal.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
So the question I'm sure all the ubs are wondering
is when can I get my hands on this?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So this's not long to wait. The brand hits Meca
instore and online on October twenty first this year, so
get your shopping lists ready, sove I'm going to be
focusing a lot on eye products given that her signature
look is a smoky eye, so we know that her
satin kajal liners not to be confused with coal, which
would probably mostly be familiar with, are coming, alongside her
(02:46):
viral posh lipsticks, the reflect highlighter stick, and the cult
favorite cell Rejuvenating priming moisturizer, which is a mouthful but
it was co created with Augustinus Beta no less, So
it's a big deal. But I think this is such
a win for UB's if you want to kind of
swatch and get a feel for the range without the
international shipping hassle. So start budgeting now.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Okay for our next headline, Insomniac Li, could your favorite
perfume be the secret to finally falling asleep. Okay, cas,
I need your expect take on this one. I always
thought perfume for was going out on the town having
a date night, not for going to bed. So is
spraying my expensive scent before bed a really smart move?
Or am I just wasting my really expensive perfume?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I think it's really important to understand the science on
this one. But no, in short, it's not a waste.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So recently Lorna McKay, who's the co founder of the
Perfume Society, told stylists that sense affect our mood, particularly
in the brain and our nervous system, so soothing sense
literally tell our body it's time to rest. In twenty
twenty four, research has found that menopausal women given lavender
before bed slept better. But it's not just lavender, which
is good people who don't love lavender.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Interestingly, a twenty twenty two study found that the more
pleasant and the odor was, the more likely people were
to report a good sleep, regardless of the particular notes
that we used themselves.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Okay, so basically a cent can literally tell our brain
it's time to calm down.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So They call this the cocooning effect, and these scents
signal to our nervous system that it's safe to switch off.
But the key is finding a scent that is naturally soothing.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Okay, so what notes should I be looking for?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Surely I'm not wearing my really heavy ambercent to bed
that night.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It depends on what you would call pleasant, because that
was the term they used in the study, So it's broad.
But there are some beloved calming powerhouses that people love.
So lavenders we've discussed, but camamils, sandalwood, jasmine, soft vanilla,
and we can also look for those skin sense that
live close to the skin, so those are kind of
musky fragrances and they can feel really comforting and intimate.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, okay, that makes sense. So is this going to
be the next big thing in the beauty category then it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Kind of already is. High end houses like Joe Malone
have already launched dedicated collections. They have a night collection
which features notes like camimal, lavender, and moonflower, and it's
kind of positioned as a luxury evening ritual, a transition
from your busy day to a RESTful night with.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Fragrance okay, and so we've got the scent, we know
what we should be looking for. Where a this scent
on my pillow?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's what you think, but actually the experts say it's
better on your skin or on your clothes because then
the scent moves with you throughout the night as opposed
to just being on your pillow, which is very stagnant.
And it's the key to maintaining a serene atmosphere and
a peaceful sleep. So ditch the pillow spray and just
go for your usual perfume.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Okay, I love that.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Plus, my group chat keeps going off because apparently go
To are bringing out a new fragrance. So basically the
fragrance world is just blowing up at the moment. This
is the new thing, exactly, sign me up go To
And for our last headline, Casts, ditch the minimalism. Gordy
glam has replaced quiet luxury as pop culture's new beauty vibe.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, Sophie, get ready, because we are talking about a
major vibe shift and cult beauty trends and I think
you can love it.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, what are we talking about? Casts?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Are we talking about embracing too much makeup?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Pretty much.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So we've had years of the whole quiet, luxury, no
makeup makeup and it's just a little bit boring. So
the tide is turning, and it's doing so with our
celebrity icons, so Doja Cat, Taylor Swift, Serena Carbonder, they're
all kind of saying more is more with their looks
lately and pulling some serious inspo from the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And I mean we've seen this everywhere. Taylor Swift's promo
shots for her Life of a show Girl, she had
Ryan Stones everywhere, dramatic, full makeup. It's definitely a massive
shift from her softer eras full on.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Aesthetic U turn. And we all became obsessed with Pamela
Anderson when she ditched her makeup. I can't stop watching
tiktoks online of people's you know, very relaxed makeup routines.
It's really cool to watch. But I think we're ready
for something more exciting. And Gordi Glam is all about
ditching that either or rule. You don't have to pick
between a bold lip or a bold eye. I mean,
before we weren't even doing either. Now you can do both.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Now we can do both I'm so excited. I feel
like this works really well with somemmer. We're ready to
ditch the saddle colors, ditch the soft blending, and go
big exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And it was all over the runways at Paris Fashion Weeks,
so feathers were everywhere. It was about texture, movement, drama,
and now we're bringing that to beauty. That's all your
beauty news for the week. Let's get back into your
dilemmas with Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Thanks for those headlines. Now for our first question, I.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Couldn't help for wonder ask me anything.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
You ask plenty questions. So first we have from Amelia,
who emailed us hi ub team. So I'm curious, what
are some beauty procedures or treatments you'd never try. I
feel like I get so caught up in the hype
and when I see on social media without doing proper research.
Would love to hear your thoughts on what's worth avoiding.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's so funny, isn't it? Because I read this question
from Amelia and I had a bit of a giggle
because I'm such a rat elaborate, like I'm a labrat.
I'm so happy to always take one for the team
and try pretty much anything and report back. I just
feel like that is part of my duty being Yeah,
(07:54):
the host here. I used to be like that. Oh,
she's like, I don't take my job very seriously. No,
I'm not being a labrat anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, well I used to. But then if you've got
skin issues, Yeah, so back in the day, I would
do anything whatever. Now I'm a little bit more selective,
only because again, I just know how much pain it's
going to cause if my perioral dermatitis flairs up, which
I am a bit more cautious.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We touched on in Amy's the Formula episode. We can
leave that in the show notes if you fancy listening,
because out of nowhere, your skin just had a bit
of a.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Flare up, and then it just now it's just something
that will flare up at different times, if you're stressed,
if you're like, haven't been sleeping, just the usual life stuff.
But is there anything that you wouldn't try?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I definitely wouldn't try the plasma treatment, the face treatment
where they take your blood like they facial I would
do that. Yeah, I absolute wouldn't because I hate blood
and I hate it. Oh okay, so the idea of
a needle with my own blood then like yuck, I
can't even We've done a couple of episodes, and I
remember I did a deep dive onto that treatment once.
(09:03):
And I actually when I was interviewing, I can't even
remember who I was interviewing because I couldn't pay attention.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Did you out?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I actually took my headphones off at one point and
was only half listening. That's how bad it was. And
I was so dizzy even having the conversation about the treatment. Wow, okay,
so that's a definite no.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
But apart from that, there wasn't really that much that.
I mean, I wouldn't really just do anything invasive for
the sake of it. For if I was going to
do something invasive, it's something that I have thought about
for a long time. I'd personally want to do, But
just your everyday treatments, it's more so that i'd be
selective about where I went.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yes, that was one of my things, so I guess,
and I don't want this to come across a certain
way everyone to themselves. But when my friends asked me
about where should I go and get laiser? Where should
get skin treatments? I generally say, don't book a pack
of five or go somewhere where you're going to get
like disponded by thing, because you never know what your
(10:05):
skin's going to be like on that day. Like I
just always think it's much better to go with the
approach of having the consultation. Like just because you had
a laser treatment three weeks ago doesn't mean then your
skin's gonna want it this time. So that's just something
that I personally wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Do unless it was like LED or something.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Really yes, absolutely LED, like book that literally I love
how you can book as well those express like it's
like fifty bucks and you can go under it for
twenty minutes or like a pack of ten for provens
and things like that. But for things like Fraxal Clear
and Brilliant skin needling, there's a lot of places that do.
And not to say that all of those places are bad,
(10:43):
but there are a few that I think you kind
of it's more just an approach to getting treatments that
I wouldn't do. The other thing I wouldn't do now
is microdemibration.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Have you done it? Though?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I have?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So that's where because I was like, there's things that
I wouldn't do again. Microdermibration is definitely.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, only because I think there's better, more modern treatments
out there now for resurfacing.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's very old see it is old school.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
But other than that, that's pretty much.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You've got pdo threads on yours, which I also agree with.
I've done it, but I wouldn't do it again because
I don't think And the funny thing is is that
I'm on the record of saying that, oh my goodness,
the results are incredible. I loved it so much. But
I'm also on the record saying that it was one
of the most painful treatments I've ever had done, and
I don't think that the results last long enough to
justify the pain.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Pdo threads. I mean, Kelly's had them done, but essentially
it's like dissolvable stitch bitch that kind of helps to
lift the infrastructure of the skin.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And it works like I've got before and after that,
I who but a year really for that much pain?
It was agony.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, it looks hectic. Maybe one day.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Never say never, never said it, but I agree there's
better and a lot of people won't do them anymore
because they're so expensive, they're so time consuming.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I probably would just go for one of the this.
In like ten years time, I'm probably having the Christian
and deep plane face lift over like pdo threads. Yeah,
once a year for the next ten years.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I don't think you need oh oh instead of yeah, okay,
that makes sense. I'm like, I don think you need
a facelift every year. Amy, That's not how it works.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You're right. I like that you knew what I had
written down and I'd forgotten about it. Yeah, Pedo threads,
I'm just like, don't feel like it. And I've done
Reduran and I've got actually two more Reduran treatments coming up.
So that's that that leff like the salmon.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Sperm under the eyes good for dark.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Seven DNA guys.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
That's we're calling it Reduran, not juking off salmon.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
No, we've moved on from the like the weirdness term
of salmon sperm. But I've got two more of that
to go, and that seems to be fine but filler.
In general, I wouldn't do it because I don't need
it number one, but also I'm a bit nervous about it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
My grading stuff that's come out lately. I actually I
know what you mean. I'd be very curious. I've had
little bits here and there over the I'd be very
in to see my face under one of those things,
to see if it's not dissolved and it's just moved everywhere.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Some people say that it stays in. It could stay
in the lip for like seven years. So I wouldn't
do that. But things I would do on the flip side,
and that I do do injectibles, you know, anti wrinkle injectibles, needling.
I don't do needling that much, but I would do it,
and I have done. I love like a frax or
(13:36):
a clear and brilliant session. I did that in the
lead up to my wedding. It's ouchy, but that is
really great if you're like a freckly sun damaged person
like me. Laser Genesis is a great like entry level treatment,
really good for pretty much everything. Oh and I love
a good peel, like if I'm having a skin treatment.
(13:56):
I love a pel and LED of course.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
We love LED. I also actually me, I'm a lovebrod.
I'll do anything. I wouldn't do one of those hectic
pills or lasers that require fair bit of downtime. I
might do it if I really wanted it, but it
would be not just me being elabright, Like, I'd have
to really lock that in and make sure, probably next
(14:18):
winter or something when I don't want to go out
for a while after, just because it also looks very painful.
It's not that I care what I look like when
I go out. I've gone out looking like Freddy Krueger,
but post needling, oh, I've looked so ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And got that.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, sometimes you're in your in the mindset for like
a bit of no pain, no gain, and then other
times I have gone to have a skin treatment, I've gone, oh,
I've actually got some shit going on, and I just
don't feel emotionally ready for something painful. But what I
would say to Amelia in general is just take the
extra time to do your research, especially if you're spending
(14:54):
your own money. You know it's your face, especially, just like,
do a bit of research and make sure it's the
right kind of treatment for you, and then go forth
do whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And you don't need that many things true, don't just
go try everything. Find one person that you trust that
you have a good connection with as much as you
can sort of have a connection with someone that does
your facials, and don't just start chopping and changing and
doing everything like you could damage your skin barrier at
(15:24):
the very least, and at the worst, you could actually
cause some harm by trying a lot of different things.
So I know that it can be tempting and when
you see different ads for things or just see people
raving about things, but nine times out of ten, you
don't need it. Agreed, all right, Next up, we've got
another juicy question. I love this question, right, such a
(15:47):
good question. Ali sent us a DM on Insta saying
a question for the pot if you could choose one
of those five umbrella companies and shop only the brands
owned by them, which one would it be? And why
I'm going first? Wait, you've got two. That's cheating.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah you can't, but we.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Can go first. But I want to not everyone restening.
Not everyone listening knows what well, even I sort of
had to google it to remind to myself, So I
will quickly just want absolutely the five umbrella companies. Not
all beauty brands fit unto these, but I would say
ninety percent yes of them, ten to two. So number one,
we've got the s Day Lader Companies, So brands like
(16:31):
these aren't all of them, but just a lot of
the main ones s Day Lauder, mac Clinique, Bobby Brown,
lamur Avida, Joe Malone, tom Ford, two Face, Doctor Jart
and the Ordinary. Then we have the Laurel Group, which
are brands like Laurel, Maybolene and Yex, Garnia, Lung com Keels, Ysl, Georgio, Armani,
Urban Decay, skin sutical Sarah v Laroche, Pose Vishi and
(16:55):
redkn We have p Andng, Procter and Gamble, Olay, Panteen,
Head and Shoulders, herbal Essences, SKI two. Is that how
you pronounce SK two? Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I know every time I love at you pronounce it bad.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So I'm such a beauty snob.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Old Spice and Gillette Gillette.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Oh I don't know about that. Okay, Uni leaves the
man can the best a man can get.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Unilever, Dove, Treasume, Sun Silk, Vacline, Simple Ponds Ourglass. Then
we have Cody, Cover, Girl, Rimel, Max Factor, Bourgeois, Kylie Cosmetics,
and then like a lot of the fragrances are under them.
So now you can go first.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, it's so it's wild, how yeah, basically, and I
feel like in the next however many years like this
will slowly it's like there's five big groups and then
it's just gonna Shessato is actually another like one that's
quite relatively big as well as I feel like Elf
with Road and all of that. But yeah, it's crazy
to think just how many brands are all owned by
(18:01):
the same company. So I am cheating, as Kelly said,
but whatever, skin care and haircare Larel reason being that,
like I've got in that mix for Laurel, I've got
skin suiticles. So if i want to do my cef
Rule serum, which I'm always buying on sale by the way,
(18:22):
never full price, or I want to do my serav
laurs Pose SPF that skin care ticked off. And then
hair care. Kerastars is one of the brands that you
didn't mention, like I'm gonna do Kerastars.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Who are they under Lorel? Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Sorry okay, Laurel and Garnia as well, so like I
can do like I love a good Garnia as I
know you do as well hair care product, but Kerastars
is like one of my just favorite hair care brands
if money was no object, So I do that, and
then but makeup, like I like maybe Lene, and I
like my Nix and ix Nicks lip products. But when
(19:02):
I was thinking about the products that I use the most,
they're probably from brands like Mac like my face and
body foundation blushes, Bobby Brown, like my corrective stick.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I feel like I could really be quite.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Happy to use just Bobby Brown, Mac and Clinique makeup.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, that's all well and good, but I do feel
like you cheated because the rule was one. So I
would choose the Laurel group because yes, I love Bobby Brown,
I love OLEA, love lots of other brands that are
under the other umbrellas. But I'm a good girl, and
I'm just choosing Lorel because I think that they've got
the most diverse and also the most amount of brands
to play with.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And probably they'll have more and more brands.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Exactly because they've got so much money they just keep
buying them. Plus they are frequently recognized for ethical business practices.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I loved see there's gotta be one rule breaker on
the show. Usually you're probably the rule. Actually, yeah, and
then now I can be them.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You can I'm the one. Like No, it was also
looking up the ethical practices of all of them, because
I thought that does come into it, Yeah, in terms
of who you can only shop with for the rest
of your life anyway, that's a great question. I thought
it was just so juicy.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, loved it.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
All right, Amy. Beauty Bite.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
My beauty bite is actually for anyone out there who
is struggling with like seasonal skin changes, like this time
of year, like hey fever, We've got like shit blowing
around in the wind. That's like getting in my eyes
and getting in my nose and flaring up my you
know thing that I always need to talk about, which
is my perioral dermatitis. So I want to do two
(20:42):
little hacks for our seasonally affected ubi's.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I'm also oh yeah, yeah, so thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Tell me number one for running eyes. I'm not saying
anything ultra new here, but if you're not using tubula mascara,
switch to a tubula for this time of year when
your eyes are running. I just love the m CO
the MC beauty, the extend slash, but that will not
come off when your eyes are running. When you've got tears,
(21:10):
you know, leaking down the side. Of your face. So
that's number one, and then number two for my perioral dermatitis. Friends,
this is a little hack that lets you still use
all your other fun skin care products without kind of
aggravating and looking after this area. So what I do
when I'm applying my skin care, for example, when I
have a flare up, like my vitamin C serum, that's
(21:32):
no good. Even my sun's screen gets a bit spicy,
just like because it's only this area. And for anyone listening,
it's that like nasy triangle, yeah, Bermuda triangle, your front
of your nose, your smile lines. Around me, it's the
corners of my mouth so crusty.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And it's got that so bad at the moment too,
like just around his mouth just so red.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah. And so what I like to do is before
I put any serums on, I get my larosch Poseesica
plus B five or like I use an even soothing
recovery cream moisturizer. Put down a layer of your moisturizer
over any of those affected areas. So I just literally
gort over my mouth, then mirror, and then I go
(22:20):
and apply my serums to the rest of my face.
And that it gives a buffer there, so sometimes just
having that buffer is enough. And because if I don't
do it, sometimes products still migrate or you're so trying
to be so careful with the application, but it can
still migrate and the tiny thing can set it off.
So that's just like a little, a little tip so
(22:40):
we can keep using our serums and our skin care
even when we're flaring. I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That was great. I loved that it's yours mine is.
This morning, I was doing my makeup and I didn't
do anything differently. I did my skincare the way that
I often do. I then did my makeup the way
that I often do. I didn't use any new products
or techniques, and I was looking at my makeup and
I was like, whoa, you have already separated in so
(23:11):
many different areas, Like it was just not playing nice
on my face, and I didn't have any time to
fix it. So I just was like, oh, whatever it is,
what it is. It's just going to look a little
bit shit today. And three people have already complimented my makeup.
And so this is just a reminder that because we
(23:33):
often get questions or dms about oh my makeup separating
and all this is happening on my skin, and it's
just a reminder that no one is ever looking at
your skin in the detail, that you are looking at
you that closely to notice that your makeup has separated,
(23:54):
or that your skin's a little bit crusty in an
area exactly a giant pimple that's bright red. Probably people
notice that, but that's okay, Yeah, it's just a big pimple.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I love that. And also because like for example, when
you're seeing people day today, you're not unless you know,
you're really close.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Or you're weird and you're paying so much attention.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You're no one's talking to you, stood right up to
your face, and it's like, I look at you from here, grunts,
I don't have my glasses on. I'm looking at you,
and I see overall glow. I see the blush. I
see how the light is reflecting off the highlight and
the lips. I don't see pause or exactly any crust
(24:36):
or any.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
If you looked closely and you were trying to look
for it, of course you would see that I'm a
bit crusty, and it's all separated in between my eyebrows
and on my chin, and in like next to my nose,
where I've also had some acne breakouts. I've also got
my periods, so that could be part of the reason why.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Oh, you're really going through it this morning.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You Yeah, it's just because we get so caught up
in details and oh little hairs on our chins and
that sort of thing. No one is looking, no one
is paying that much attention to our face the way
that we are, So it's just a little remind it's
to be nice to yourself when you're worrying about things. Thanks,
cal if you have a question, like I said, we'll
(25:15):
pop everything in the show notes and we'll be back
in your eyes and ease next week. Bye bye.
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