September 21, 2025 • 25 mins
Think touching up your makeup is as simple as dabbing on some powder? Think again! Leigh & Kelly are breaking down the art of midday touch-ups, from why translucent powders are your best friend to the genius volcanic stone roller that'll change your oily T-zone game forever. They're revealing why your foundation might be separating (hint: it's all about the layering technique) and sharing the $2.50 blotting papers that models swear by.
Then they're solving the mystery of makeup that peels in the weirdest places - you know, that one spot near your temple that just won't behave. The girls are serving up some hard truths about neglected skincare areas and why your chemical exfoliant might be the hero your hairline desperately needs.
EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Invisimatte Instant Setting & Blotting Powder • 8.5g - Universal $27
No-Sebum Mineral Powder (New Version) - 5g - $9.50
MP Cosmetics Blotting Paper 1 Pack $6.00
Revlon Beauty Tool Volcanic Stone Facial Roller $7.99
MECCA MAX Retractable Travel Brush $20.00
Paula's Choice Travel Size 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant $19.00
NuFACE Prep-N-Glow 5 Individually Packed Cloths $17.00
First Aid Beauty Facial Radiance Pads - 28 pads Compostable $34.00
Dermalogica Daily Microfoliant - Travel $32.00
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on. Makeup is My Therapy. I'm the love,
I'm obsess and I don't even feel guilty of body. Hello,
and welcome to you beauty. I am Lee Campbell. I'm
(00:32):
Kelly McCarron. And before we get into today's show, let's
see what's happening in the world of beauty. You look
like a real news reader saying I do.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything
you missed in the beauty world. I'm Amy Clark mom
and me is lifestyle editor and tinted lipbum lover.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And I'm Cas Green mom and me is Morning editor
and I forgot mascara today. Anyway, here's what's trending.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Forget your face.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You can now try micro needling hair products. So something
that was not on my beauty bingo card for twenty
twenty five but definitely should have been micro needling shampoo
from the same Korean skincare brand that brought us that
viral micro needling in a bottle reedle serum comes a
scalp shampoo that promises a cleaner scalp and healthier hair.
(01:18):
Juna Zoo reviewed the new VT Cosmetics PDRN Reedleshot Scalp
shampoo on mammamea dot com deau and wrote that her
scalp has never felt so fresh. What did you think
when we first published this storycast.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Look Amy, The formula is really interesting because it contains
a lot of buzzy kind of ingredients, the first being
something called PDRN otherwise known as salmon DNA, but in
this case it's actually a plant derived version. So it
also has the brand's Reedle Shot microspicules, which for the
uninitiated are kind of crystallized ultra fine needle like structures
(01:51):
about fourteen times smaller than a single paw on your face.
Juna says these don't hurt, but they do help to
remove dead skin cells and create microscopic channels in your
scalp skin for better ingredient absorption.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It is just another example of that skinnification of all
of the categories. But as someone who doesn't wash their
hair without a scalp step ever, I would one hundred
percent try this. I have seen people who derma roll
their scalp and this looks like a lot less effort.
Plus it feels much more low risk than the reedal
face serum because it's in a wash off format for
(02:25):
my head.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Louis Vaton has just launched its first ever makeup line,
Love You Tay woo Ooo so, with legendary British makeup
artist Dame Pat McGrath leading the creative direction. The line
features refillable high end products, including an eye shadow palette
and lipsticks in Balm, Satin and Matt finishes. So this
collection is a lot more luxury airlooms than makeup products.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
The main catch is the price.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I am like low key obsessed with the fact that,
in twenty twenty five, with cost of living, not only
are Louis Vaton's beauty products too luxury for the everyday person,
but they're also too luxury for the luxury beauty category.
As Business of Beauty put it, four hundred and twenty
dollars for an eye shadow quad or a seven hundred
(03:11):
and sixty five dollar monogram LV cosmetic lipstick pouch is
quote in an entirely new galaxy of inaccessibility. For context,
let's compare some luxury lipsticks on the market, so do
your lipsticks. They start at the lower end of the
scale at sixty nine dollars, Chanelle from seventy five, tom
Ford from eighty eight dollars, and the Ermez lipsticks are
(03:34):
one hundred and eleven dollars. There's also Patmogra's eponymous line
costs seventy dollars, while this Louis Vaton lipstick sits at
two hundred and sixty five dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well, yeah, it's quite shocking and quality wise, there is
absolutely no doubt that any Patmograth formula is going to
be impeccable and what you're paying for it is an innovation,
but a piece of fashion and beauty history. They are
essentially collectus items and we're all going to want one
in our bag. But can we afford it? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
It's an interesting choice to take this route when traditionally
luxury beauty products have been priced as a kind of
entry point into fact houses. So you can also buy
these direct from Louvaton, but we're yet to see where
Elsie's might be ranged in Australia.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Can AI replace your dermatologist? Larel is kind of asking
us to consider this. Recently, they have launched their own
beauty genius AI skin Assistant. It's different to a virtual
try on, which has been around for a while, where
you can kind of virtually try on a lipstick, shade
or a foundation through AI on various beauty websites. Now
you can actually do a skin consultation through your smartphone,
(04:40):
kind of like a skin therapist, kind of like a
dermal clinician in your pocket. I mean, working in media,
we are all very sensitive about how AI could be
coming for our jobs. Cas, do you think dermatologists should
be worried?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Look, Amy, I think there's always going to be a
place for dermatologists. There's really no getting over their kind
of expertise. But I do think it's a really fun
new tool. I think most of us are feeling super
overwhelmed when it comes to beauty and skincare. Most of
us are googling actives like crazy and looking up ingredients
in our various products. So I think a way to
kind of decode that at home makes a lot of
(05:14):
sense as a kind of replacement for your Google search
or your own kind of research that you might do.
And like, this particular app has over one hundred and
fifty thousand annotations from dermatologists and supposedly delivers up to
ninety five percent accuracy, So I would say is probably
better than Google, but it's definitely not going to be
better than your dermatologists. They go to school for a reason.
(05:34):
They're amazing at what they do. We love them, so yeah,
it's not about to replace them, but it's a nice
little addition to your beauty regime. Now you're up to date,
let's get into all your beauty. Q and a's with
Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I couldn't help. Wonder you ask me anything? You ask
many questions, potty question.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
It's coming through from our instadiums. Would love to hear
how the collective? How are you touching up your makeup
during the day? Is powder still a thing? How do
I know which powder to use? Do I choose the
same brand and color as my foundation or is there
some universal touch up powder that everyone is using?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Help?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I have dry skin, but I get a shine going
through the day as my makeup wears off.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Well that's good because we can both probably help because
I'm a powdered girl expert and you're dry. But do
you ever touch up with a powder? I don't touch up,
but I do, oh, I do? I do? I do? Okay,
as we will talk about like obviously I'm still going.
I did my makeup on Saturday, it's now Monday. Can
you imagine, Oh my god, I drop. I actually think
that my makeup would still slap. It does not move,
(06:39):
I can imagine. And you know how some products are
like seventy two hour ware, I'm like, why if you're bendering,
that's why. No, that is not appropriate. You should still
wash your face anyway. Yes, my lovely Instagram friend powder
is such a thing, and I think maybe you're thinking
back because you say, do I choose the same brand
and color as my foundation? That's a bit a bygone
(07:00):
era where you kind of used to see women open
a compact and it was you know, skin tone color,
and oftentimes if you still see those, they're a powdered foundation,
not really kind of a touch up. You want something
translucent and truly translucent. I am the boss of that
because I need to touch up throughout the day. I
have been out with Kelly and I think even Mia
(07:21):
and I've just sat there with blotting papers on my face.
So as it warms up, I definitely need to do
this too. I'm combo, so the sides of my face
are actually getting dryer and dryer as I get more experienced,
but the center remains combination. Oily. Can I make some recommendation,
please do? Okay? The fenty Beauty in Visi Matt instant
(07:42):
setting and blotting powder is fantastic. You can get a
little size for twenty seven dollars, so that's a pressed powder.
Ain't nobody got time, Well maybe people do, but I
don't do a loose powder when I'm mountain about because
it's just way too messy. So that's really good. Another
one that I really really love is the inners Free
no Sebam mineral powder. There's two versions, so if you're
(08:02):
looking online, the new version is new Little travel guy.
But you only ever need in these situations, firstly because
you said you're touching up, but secondly you're never gonna
go through it all. It's nine dollars fifty. I love it,
and you're gonna need if you're gonna use one of those.
You want a little brush if you're gonna do a
pressed powder thing ease. Some of them come with that
(08:23):
little puffy thing, but menoliky I don't know because it's
you can't really I just don't like it. I mean
you might. So two brush recommendations to go with your
powder that you're taking in your handbag. The Mecha Max
retractable travel brush. It's just one of those bop but
it's got a lid because you don't want brush in
your makeup bag that's then gonna dirty it. Twenty bucks
(08:43):
or on Amazon three pack retractable brush. So it's like
three little face brushes. So you might use one like
you're a cream girl. You could use one for cream products.
You could use one for you know, bronzes or whatever,
and one for setting powder. Sixteen touch up if you
want to. Some people want to touch up their cream contour. Well,
(09:03):
I just think do it right the first time. You
won't have to anyway, Just get three brushes and then
you've got one in rotation when you washing it. Another
thing I want to tell you about is blotting paper.
I feel like you, my dry friend who just gets
a bit shiny plotting paper is perfect. It's literally a
little rectangle of like it looks like baking paper, and
it's got the tiniest film of translucent powder and you
(09:24):
just blot like that comes in a really thin little packet.
They're wonderful. Models prefer has some blotting papers. Munpack is
six dollars. My favorites are from Muji. Themoji face blotting
cosmetic paper two dollars fifty oh one more thing. There's
lots of them, but I like the Revlon one, The
Revlon Beauty Tool Volcanic Stone facial roller. Yes, it's this
(09:48):
little It kind of looks like a makeup brush, I guess,
but then the head's like a little it looks like
a marble, like a stone marble, and it's made out
of volcanic rock, which is really porous and absorbs oil.
So you just roll it over your oily bits.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Because that's what I'm thinking, Given that she said that
she's dry, I actually don't think that her makeup is
wearing off during the day if you're priming and then
layering properly.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So do you think she could fix this problem at application?
It depends because some people are face touches. Me.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
So if you touch your face all day like you
rest your hands. You said that I want to touch
my yes, then of course your makeup's going to start
separating and coming off a little bit in those areas.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But she's saying she's just getting shiny. Yeah, that's what
I agree with you. I think just a blotting paper. Oh,
she does say, as my makeup wears off, But yes,
if you're layering your products. The difference between I think
that I could do my makeup and it would look
the same between ten minutes and twenty minutes. The difference is.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Like I got time to do it, yes, like I
could do the same look to the naked eye in
ten minutes or twenty minutes. But when I spend the
time and layer my products properly and spend time.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
My makeup will not move.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Like I will go play netball after a full day
of recording and my makeup is still pretty good. The
only place that it tends to move at the moment
is my upper lip because of hey fever season, So
I'm blowing my nose a lot, that's it. And I
eat and drink so my lips around there. But the
rest of my face it doesn't move.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And if I was going to touch what are these steps lady,
Well for everyone it would be different, but for me,
it's like just taking the time doing my skin care
and then waiting a little bit. Waiting is a lot
of it because I think you go, you know, skincare, sunscreen, foundation,
and it's like everything's fine, but it starts peeling off
and wearing off a lot quicker because you haven't allowed
(11:42):
it to think of it. When you're trying to paint
your own nails, you've got a let it dry between steps,
goes glug city exactly as soon as you touch anything.
So and then I will always prime, and then I
start with my cream to not prime as a crimeme.
And then I'll always start with all of my cream
products and not use heaps of them, but lay out
after your foundation. After I've primed and then prime, then foundation.
(12:07):
Then like my conceal is my cream contour, my cream blush,
then I will set everything with the equivalent powder product.
So in the areas that I've cream contoured, I will
bronze whoa like it takes twenty minutes, not ten minutes,
but it lasts all day. And then if I am like,
when do you do your setting spray last like you
(12:27):
Charlotte to every setting spray, I.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Don't usually do it at the end of doing my
makeup I'll just do it throughout the day to sort
of refresh my skin and make it look a little
bit glowier. And if I have got movement around my mouth,
I just sort of like press a.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Dirty concealer brush into the area. Without I do that,
I'm done to it. Or I just because you have
fingers and warm I kind of just smooge yeah when
it comes back. And I also think that you need
to remember that no one's looking at your facely as
closely as you are. So though you think that your
makeup separating and wearing off in different no one's noticing.
But also we do it for us, so of course, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but no one else is going to look at you
(13:04):
in as much detail. And why are we looking it up?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Like if I looked at my makeup right now, actually closely,
I'd find a.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Lot with it. Well, you've been out since Saturday, I have. Yeah,
that's try one of those powders, get a travel size,
try something affordable. But yeah, these truly translucent, they're called
universally translucent. They are actually.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Clear, yes exactly, and anyone can use them, maybe not
the deeper skin tones. I think they've got really nice
translucent powders. It aren't white because they can do a
bit of a white cast, do they. Yeah, But for
a lot of skin tones, you can use the translucent
white ones. But then they do have specific ones for
darker skin tones.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Excellent, Okay. Naomi sent us the question, this is another
makeup question, because you know what we often find, we
get a lot of skin questions, you know, year round,
but then coming into spring what we call the party season.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I've seen that this is going to be playful makeup summer.
Like people are saying that people are going to be
having fun. That doesn't mean you have to.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, well I want to. I feel left out anyway.
Naomi asked us the following question, Hello, I have a
makeup challenge. So as a girl in the know, I
do what girls do. Challenge I think she means like
problem problem, So if you will an undrum, So, as
a girl in the know, I do what girls do
and head to your beauty podcast for answers. I'm finding
(14:27):
my makeup is pilling, but only on one side of
my face, between my eyeline and my temple. It's the
combination of serum, moisturizer, sunscreen, primer, and tinted BB cream
that sits well everywhere on my face, But those two spots,
it's Pillar Paloosa. I love her, She's got personality. Is
(14:47):
it a combination of layers, poor application technique? I use
my fingers and a foundation brush, not pouncing a sponge.
She doesn't pounce Kelly, Kelly's a pouncer. Get you pouncing in?
Or is it just some sort of weird karmic revenge
for all the times I've parked badly? Please help I
know the answer, So do I? Oh? Well you go first?
Now you go. Well, we might have different answers, but
(15:08):
I have a experience such conundrum. Oh okay, I just.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Think that potentially there's a build up of dead skin
cells and old makeup in that area, and so she
needs to use a chemical exfolient.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Ding ding ding. This happens to me here, see because
also I have the strangest hairline where I have like
three millimeters between my eyebrows and my hair. How many
do I have? Oh? Way more? Remember when I use
that type and my hair joined my eyebrows and I
had to have it threadned. So I often neglect that
area because I, you know, doing my skincare and whatever
(15:40):
chemicsolion or my vitamin A. I often don't even I
offically do stuff to its skincare wise, but not enough.
And this happened to me when my makeup was great.
I knew all the layers. I know what layers play well,
but just these two, like my temple pretty much or
just above my browbone to my hair was peeling.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah, because even if you think about if you do
have a lot of space, yeah, a lot of the
time we just sort of focus on that center part
of our face and we don't. I even sometimes have
to remind myself to do my skin care up onto
my ears, yes, like my especially sunscreen, the sunscreen and
exfoliation because that skin is really neglected.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Okay exactly, And I'm going to recommend some products, but
use one of these because I've got some just you
know Bha you wanted probably an Aha Bha blend, just
because there's sounds like there's a lot of dead skin
cells get rid of. But some of the wipes, like
I think a cloth wipe is really easy. Here, those
doctor Dennis Gross ones that are so expensive, yes, well
I've got cheaper ones, well are they? I mean they're
(16:39):
not as expensive. The First Aid Beauty has like a
little twenty eight pad travel thing, and also there is
the prep and Glow by New Face, and they've got
little individually packed cloths. Can I tell you get one
of these when you're doing your little eyebrow bit do
this behind your ear and look at it. It's disgusting.
It's disgusting. And also do your back because we often
(17:02):
don't scrub out maw. I agree, but just like do
this and then also do in your ear and all
around like this behind here is foul. I do mind
quite a lot because I enjoy it. So long story short, Naomi,
it's probably exfoliation, so use you know, anything that you've
got at home if you've already got a chemical exfoliant.
The Paula's Choice BHA is great that now comes in
a little travel size. I related to travel sizes today.
(17:25):
It's a great way to try different things as well,
isn't it? As I said, the New Face little wipes
are great. So it's the first day they're like little discs,
but you could also try if you wanted something that's
a bit more manual. Although this has kind of enzymes
in it is our favorite dermalogica daily mycrofole oh yes,
which is like a little clay. You had a little
bit of water and then you can kind of custom
(17:45):
buff how much buffing you want, Yeah, how how much
stuffing you want on your face? I completely agree.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I actually think that that is the only possible option
as to what well.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I literally had this problem both sides, and I was like,
what's going on? And this was a time where I
was using the consistent like serum, sunscreen makeup. I knew
they worked well. I exfoliated ding ding fix it right up.
Please everyone go get a swipe or even just a
cotton pad and clean behind your ears and of your face.
It's so much fun. Yeah, and just report back on
(18:17):
the difference that it may And also when you're in
the shower, if you cleanse in the shower or not,
make sure you cleanse your ears as well. It's very important.
I clean mysee every day just because it feels so good.
I know it's not supposed to. Oh yes, the ear
buddy things, but no, I mean like actually not inside
your ear drum. Does inside your drum feel that's naughty?
I know. I like doing that with toothfoss. I don't.
We'll not in my ear anyway. You're supposed to floss
(18:38):
your teeth. That's good. Yeah, I know, but I like
my Oh okay, okay, onto beauty bite, beauty bite. I
did not even mean to have a segue. But mine's
got to do with tooth foss, does it? I wish
I brought some, but my hair's up anyway. So frizz
(18:59):
city's either raining and your hair's frizzy, or it's getting
humid and your hair's frizzy. Maybe not when I want.
I know I'm weird, but obviously sometimes you can just
use product and a serum. You can use a toothbrush.
But did you know this is what I've done when
I've been in an emergency, a frizz emergency. Do you
have toothfloss with you, like all the time? No, because
(19:21):
I hate the feeling and I never floss my teeth.
I'm fine. The dentist has not. Well, look, I'm a
flos addict, and it's not great. I normally have those
little pixture things. But if you've got regular toothfloss and
you don't have any hair products, you get a tiny
bit of lip balm or something and you put it
on the floss. I wish I could do that doesn't
even already have like some product on it. It's a
bit waxy, but you know, we're working with frieze here, okay.
(19:42):
And then you put it. I put it on my
cent apart and then I go, h really firm. I
bet that works a tree.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It does.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's so satisfying. I mean, if you've got hairspray, great
or like whatever. But if you've literally stuck on a
desert island with lip palm and toothfloss and you're really
worried about your frizz, you know, because the island's great,
you literally get like a length of you know, a
couple of centimet well, what's that twenty centimeters? I don't know, yes,
And then like just like I just put like a
(20:09):
tiny bit of lip balm. I've got like a a
chuby lip barm on it, and then you just hold
it where your parties are, where the frizze is quite firm,
like like you're putting a hat on, and then you
just slide it down the lengths of your hair and
it just MUSHes. Yes, and then you're not getting lots
of juicy lip farm on your hands, but also your
hands are way too heavy handed because it's the tiniest
(20:30):
string with the coating of lip balm, it just smushes
them down. But it's like nothing happened. That's genius. That's
actually I love that I starting a guiver of beauty. Yeah,
you really should. It should be like a little sub channel. Yeah,
I've run out of ideas, but that was all I
had besides all my other great ones. What's your beauty?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
It's a bit of a PSA, and I'm going to
loving a p SA right now. I actually really am
an I I feel like, yeah, soap and we will
link the video that I'm referencing in the show notes.
But it's been making the rounds on socials over the
last couple of weeks. There was this lovely lass who
(21:08):
basically came out and talked about what an esthetician has
done to her skin.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Have you seen it? Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
In La an esthetician is kind of like between a
skin therapist and a dermatologist.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I would say, like they've done a bit of training,
but not well. I mean it also depends where here.
They're very good. They are. Yeah, America, I think you
can just like go and buy lasers and stuff and
call yourself. And it was just a reminder.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
So firstly, this esthetician who she trusted with her face
after many treatments, burnt her skin, actually burnt her skin
so badly.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
The treatment was she having. Do you recall they were
doing appeal? Yeah, yes, that's right. Appeals. People think, oh,
it's just appeal. It's just something that you can know,
like putting acid on your phone. People can go so wrong.
And this is just why it's so important to know
who you're going to and anyway, and then she proceeded
to like the lady was kept trying to fix it.
(22:02):
She spent sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Firstly, if someone ever stuffed something up, they kept.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Going going back to the same person trying to get
it fixed because the lady said, hey, I can help
you with this. I can fix this. But that lady
should have then covered it. I remember, but I would
also not go back to that.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
No, no, no, But I remember when my sister was younger,
she's always had really sensitive skin, and she went to
a salon for her eyebrows to be threaded and plucked,
and they waxed, and she'd said to them, I've got
sensitive skin.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Much skin lift. It like literally takes his skin off.
And that happened.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
And the next day was her formal and she was
so self conscious and I called them up and I said,
she told you that she had sensitive skin, and I've
always been a really like bossy big sister, I said,
so you can.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Help her cover this up. So I took her back.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
In there and made them help cover it up because
my makeup wasn't cutting it. And also just to be like,
look what you did because you didn't listen.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I think it's a really important reminder that these things
are serious. You know, we especially in our beauty bubble here,
we talk about these things like it ain't no thing,
but getting professional treatments, whether it's needling, lasers, peels, it's
pretty full on and it can cause a lot of
damage in the wrong hand. So word of mouth, asking
for recommendations from friends.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Also trusting your gut. So I have told you about
this before. When I was in my twenties, I was
doing a trial with a brand, so I was in
beauty media, so it was comped and I was doing
weekly facials because they were trying to clear up my accounts,
and my skin progressively got worse, and it looked always burnt,
and my acne was just catastrophically getting worse, and they
(23:45):
were going, it's purging, it's purging. No, no, ugg, You're
not purging for that long. And in the end I
did finally listen to my gut and just went, no, no,
this is not right. But I just I really felt
for that girl. And it's just a real reminder to
look into. Don't buy group on vouchers for treatments, don't
go to someone with little to no qualifications, sex.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Word of mouth, asking the your beauty Facebook, and how
about a consultant. Go home and think about it afore.
But there's a scar on my arm that's from when
I was nineteen. I got the bus in from where
I lived into the city and I had a laser
hair removal test patch back then. Because I've got very
hairy arms, I shaved them now see business, and that
scar still I'm forty three, because they burnt, like through
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to the bone. And I remember calling the next day
and like there was no camera phones. I was like,
and so I had to go back and show them
and they're like, oh, that's yeah, that's your fault. And
I was like, okay, And I was already ashamed of
my hairy arms, and you know then you have ashamed
of your scars. And that's the thing. Well, I'm not
I'm just like your negodgence. But when you're younger, I
don't think there was no social media to call people out.
(24:50):
And I'm not a huge calling out.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I firmly believe that a lot of business should be
handled behind closed doors because you don't realize that it
can really impact a small business, So if you can
sort it out behind.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Closed doors, please, And most people have good intentions, but yes,
follow your gut, do you. Yeah, I just don't go
for the bargain when it's your face in someone else's hands.
I was just a little another soapbox persae for you
that toothfloss soapboxes. Better finally go home and washing my makeup. Oh,
I hope you had a good time. Thank you so
much for joining us on New Beauty. We'll be back
together our gosh, before we know what. I hope Kelly's
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preference is. Yeah, and we'll see you next time. Bye bye,
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on. Makeup is My Therapy. I'm the love,
I'm obsess and I don't even feel guilty of body. Hello,
and welcome to you beauty. I am Lee Campbell. I'm
(00:32):
Kelly McCarron. And before we get into today's show, let's
see what's happening in the world of beauty. You look
like a real news reader saying I do.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything
you missed in the beauty world. I'm Amy Clark mom
and me is lifestyle editor and tinted lipbum lover.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And I'm Cas Green mom and me is Morning editor
and I forgot mascara today. Anyway, here's what's trending.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Forget your face.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You can now try micro needling hair products. So something
that was not on my beauty bingo card for twenty
twenty five but definitely should have been micro needling shampoo
from the same Korean skincare brand that brought us that
viral micro needling in a bottle reedle serum comes a
scalp shampoo that promises a cleaner scalp and healthier hair.
(01:18):
Juna Zoo reviewed the new VT Cosmetics PDRN Reedleshot Scalp
shampoo on mammamea dot com deau and wrote that her
scalp has never felt so fresh. What did you think
when we first published this storycast.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Look Amy, The formula is really interesting because it contains
a lot of buzzy kind of ingredients, the first being
something called PDRN otherwise known as salmon DNA, but in
this case it's actually a plant derived version. So it
also has the brand's Reedle Shot microspicules, which for the
uninitiated are kind of crystallized ultra fine needle like structures
(01:51):
about fourteen times smaller than a single paw on your face.
Juna says these don't hurt, but they do help to
remove dead skin cells and create microscopic channels in your
scalp skin for better ingredient absorption.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It is just another example of that skinnification of all
of the categories. But as someone who doesn't wash their
hair without a scalp step ever, I would one hundred
percent try this. I have seen people who derma roll
their scalp and this looks like a lot less effort.
Plus it feels much more low risk than the reedal
face serum because it's in a wash off format for
(02:25):
my head.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Louis Vaton has just launched its first ever makeup line,
Love You Tay woo Ooo so, with legendary British makeup
artist Dame Pat McGrath leading the creative direction. The line
features refillable high end products, including an eye shadow palette
and lipsticks in Balm, Satin and Matt finishes. So this
collection is a lot more luxury airlooms than makeup products.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
The main catch is the price.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I am like low key obsessed with the fact that,
in twenty twenty five, with cost of living, not only
are Louis Vaton's beauty products too luxury for the everyday person,
but they're also too luxury for the luxury beauty category.
As Business of Beauty put it, four hundred and twenty
dollars for an eye shadow quad or a seven hundred
(03:11):
and sixty five dollar monogram LV cosmetic lipstick pouch is
quote in an entirely new galaxy of inaccessibility. For context,
let's compare some luxury lipsticks on the market, so do
your lipsticks. They start at the lower end of the
scale at sixty nine dollars, Chanelle from seventy five, tom
Ford from eighty eight dollars, and the Ermez lipsticks are
(03:34):
one hundred and eleven dollars. There's also Patmogra's eponymous line
costs seventy dollars, while this Louis Vaton lipstick sits at
two hundred and sixty five dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well, yeah, it's quite shocking and quality wise, there is
absolutely no doubt that any Patmograth formula is going to
be impeccable and what you're paying for it is an innovation,
but a piece of fashion and beauty history. They are
essentially collectus items and we're all going to want one
in our bag. But can we afford it? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
It's an interesting choice to take this route when traditionally
luxury beauty products have been priced as a kind of
entry point into fact houses. So you can also buy
these direct from Louvaton, but we're yet to see where
Elsie's might be ranged in Australia.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Can AI replace your dermatologist? Larel is kind of asking
us to consider this. Recently, they have launched their own
beauty genius AI skin Assistant. It's different to a virtual
try on, which has been around for a while, where
you can kind of virtually try on a lipstick, shade
or a foundation through AI on various beauty websites. Now
you can actually do a skin consultation through your smartphone,
(04:40):
kind of like a skin therapist, kind of like a
dermal clinician in your pocket. I mean, working in media,
we are all very sensitive about how AI could be
coming for our jobs. Cas, do you think dermatologists should
be worried?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Look, Amy, I think there's always going to be a
place for dermatologists. There's really no getting over their kind
of expertise. But I do think it's a really fun
new tool. I think most of us are feeling super
overwhelmed when it comes to beauty and skincare. Most of
us are googling actives like crazy and looking up ingredients
in our various products. So I think a way to
kind of decode that at home makes a lot of
(05:14):
sense as a kind of replacement for your Google search
or your own kind of research that you might do.
And like, this particular app has over one hundred and
fifty thousand annotations from dermatologists and supposedly delivers up to
ninety five percent accuracy, So I would say is probably
better than Google, but it's definitely not going to be
better than your dermatologists. They go to school for a reason.
(05:34):
They're amazing at what they do. We love them, so yeah,
it's not about to replace them, but it's a nice
little addition to your beauty regime. Now you're up to date,
let's get into all your beauty. Q and a's with
Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I couldn't help. Wonder you ask me anything? You ask
many questions, potty question.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
It's coming through from our instadiums. Would love to hear
how the collective? How are you touching up your makeup
during the day? Is powder still a thing? How do
I know which powder to use? Do I choose the
same brand and color as my foundation or is there
some universal touch up powder that everyone is using?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Help?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I have dry skin, but I get a shine going
through the day as my makeup wears off.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Well that's good because we can both probably help because
I'm a powdered girl expert and you're dry. But do
you ever touch up with a powder? I don't touch up,
but I do, oh, I do? I do? I do? Okay,
as we will talk about like obviously I'm still going.
I did my makeup on Saturday, it's now Monday. Can
you imagine, Oh my god, I drop. I actually think
that my makeup would still slap. It does not move,
(06:39):
I can imagine. And you know how some products are
like seventy two hour ware, I'm like, why if you're bendering,
that's why. No, that is not appropriate. You should still
wash your face anyway. Yes, my lovely Instagram friend powder
is such a thing, and I think maybe you're thinking
back because you say, do I choose the same brand
and color as my foundation? That's a bit a bygone
(07:00):
era where you kind of used to see women open
a compact and it was you know, skin tone color,
and oftentimes if you still see those, they're a powdered foundation,
not really kind of a touch up. You want something
translucent and truly translucent. I am the boss of that
because I need to touch up throughout the day. I
have been out with Kelly and I think even Mia
(07:21):
and I've just sat there with blotting papers on my face.
So as it warms up, I definitely need to do
this too. I'm combo, so the sides of my face
are actually getting dryer and dryer as I get more experienced,
but the center remains combination. Oily. Can I make some recommendation,
please do? Okay? The fenty Beauty in Visi Matt instant
(07:42):
setting and blotting powder is fantastic. You can get a
little size for twenty seven dollars, so that's a pressed powder.
Ain't nobody got time, Well maybe people do, but I
don't do a loose powder when I'm mountain about because
it's just way too messy. So that's really good. Another
one that I really really love is the inners Free
no Sebam mineral powder. There's two versions, so if you're
(08:02):
looking online, the new version is new Little travel guy.
But you only ever need in these situations, firstly because
you said you're touching up, but secondly you're never gonna
go through it all. It's nine dollars fifty. I love it,
and you're gonna need if you're gonna use one of those.
You want a little brush if you're gonna do a
pressed powder thing ease. Some of them come with that
(08:23):
little puffy thing, but menoliky I don't know because it's
you can't really I just don't like it. I mean
you might. So two brush recommendations to go with your
powder that you're taking in your handbag. The Mecha Max
retractable travel brush. It's just one of those bop but
it's got a lid because you don't want brush in
your makeup bag that's then gonna dirty it. Twenty bucks
(08:43):
or on Amazon three pack retractable brush. So it's like
three little face brushes. So you might use one like
you're a cream girl. You could use one for cream products.
You could use one for you know, bronzes or whatever,
and one for setting powder. Sixteen touch up if you
want to. Some people want to touch up their cream contour. Well,
(09:03):
I just think do it right the first time. You
won't have to anyway, Just get three brushes and then
you've got one in rotation when you washing it. Another
thing I want to tell you about is blotting paper.
I feel like you, my dry friend who just gets
a bit shiny plotting paper is perfect. It's literally a
little rectangle of like it looks like baking paper, and
it's got the tiniest film of translucent powder and you
(09:24):
just blot like that comes in a really thin little packet.
They're wonderful. Models prefer has some blotting papers. Munpack is
six dollars. My favorites are from Muji. Themoji face blotting
cosmetic paper two dollars fifty oh one more thing. There's
lots of them, but I like the Revlon one, The
Revlon Beauty Tool Volcanic Stone facial roller. Yes, it's this
(09:48):
little It kind of looks like a makeup brush, I guess,
but then the head's like a little it looks like
a marble, like a stone marble, and it's made out
of volcanic rock, which is really porous and absorbs oil.
So you just roll it over your oily bits.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Because that's what I'm thinking, Given that she said that
she's dry, I actually don't think that her makeup is
wearing off during the day if you're priming and then
layering properly.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So do you think she could fix this problem at application?
It depends because some people are face touches. Me.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
So if you touch your face all day like you
rest your hands. You said that I want to touch
my yes, then of course your makeup's going to start
separating and coming off a little bit in those areas.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But she's saying she's just getting shiny. Yeah, that's what
I agree with you. I think just a blotting paper. Oh,
she does say, as my makeup wears off, But yes,
if you're layering your products. The difference between I think
that I could do my makeup and it would look
the same between ten minutes and twenty minutes. The difference is.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Like I got time to do it, yes, like I
could do the same look to the naked eye in
ten minutes or twenty minutes. But when I spend the
time and layer my products properly and spend time.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
My makeup will not move.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Like I will go play netball after a full day
of recording and my makeup is still pretty good. The
only place that it tends to move at the moment
is my upper lip because of hey fever season, So
I'm blowing my nose a lot, that's it. And I
eat and drink so my lips around there. But the
rest of my face it doesn't move.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And if I was going to touch what are these steps lady,
Well for everyone it would be different, but for me,
it's like just taking the time doing my skin care
and then waiting a little bit. Waiting is a lot
of it because I think you go, you know, skincare, sunscreen, foundation,
and it's like everything's fine, but it starts peeling off
and wearing off a lot quicker because you haven't allowed
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it to think of it. When you're trying to paint
your own nails, you've got a let it dry between steps,
goes glug city exactly as soon as you touch anything.
So and then I will always prime, and then I
start with my cream to not prime as a crimeme.
And then I'll always start with all of my cream
products and not use heaps of them, but lay out
after your foundation. After I've primed and then prime, then foundation.
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Then like my conceal is my cream contour, my cream blush,
then I will set everything with the equivalent powder product.
So in the areas that I've cream contoured, I will
bronze whoa like it takes twenty minutes, not ten minutes,
but it lasts all day. And then if I am like,
when do you do your setting spray last like you
(12:27):
Charlotte to every setting spray, I.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Don't usually do it at the end of doing my
makeup I'll just do it throughout the day to sort
of refresh my skin and make it look a little
bit glowier. And if I have got movement around my mouth,
I just sort of like press a.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Dirty concealer brush into the area. Without I do that,
I'm done to it. Or I just because you have
fingers and warm I kind of just smooge yeah when
it comes back. And I also think that you need
to remember that no one's looking at your facely as
closely as you are. So though you think that your
makeup separating and wearing off in different no one's noticing.
But also we do it for us, so of course, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but no one else is going to look at you
(13:04):
in as much detail. And why are we looking it up?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Like if I looked at my makeup right now, actually closely,
I'd find a.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Lot with it. Well, you've been out since Saturday, I have. Yeah,
that's try one of those powders, get a travel size,
try something affordable. But yeah, these truly translucent, they're called
universally translucent. They are actually.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Clear, yes exactly, and anyone can use them, maybe not
the deeper skin tones. I think they've got really nice
translucent powders. It aren't white because they can do a
bit of a white cast, do they. Yeah, But for
a lot of skin tones, you can use the translucent
white ones. But then they do have specific ones for
darker skin tones.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Excellent, Okay. Naomi sent us the question, this is another
makeup question, because you know what we often find, we
get a lot of skin questions, you know, year round,
but then coming into spring what we call the party season.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I've seen that this is going to be playful makeup summer.
Like people are saying that people are going to be
having fun. That doesn't mean you have to.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, well I want to. I feel left out anyway.
Naomi asked us the following question, Hello, I have a
makeup challenge. So as a girl in the know, I
do what girls do. Challenge I think she means like
problem problem, So if you will an undrum, So, as
a girl in the know, I do what girls do
and head to your beauty podcast for answers. I'm finding
(14:27):
my makeup is pilling, but only on one side of
my face, between my eyeline and my temple. It's the
combination of serum, moisturizer, sunscreen, primer, and tinted BB cream
that sits well everywhere on my face, But those two spots,
it's Pillar Paloosa. I love her, She's got personality. Is
(14:47):
it a combination of layers, poor application technique? I use
my fingers and a foundation brush, not pouncing a sponge.
She doesn't pounce Kelly, Kelly's a pouncer. Get you pouncing in?
Or is it just some sort of weird karmic revenge
for all the times I've parked badly? Please help I
know the answer, So do I? Oh? Well you go first?
Now you go. Well, we might have different answers, but
(15:08):
I have a experience such conundrum. Oh okay, I just.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Think that potentially there's a build up of dead skin
cells and old makeup in that area, and so she
needs to use a chemical exfolient.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Ding ding ding. This happens to me here, see because
also I have the strangest hairline where I have like
three millimeters between my eyebrows and my hair. How many
do I have? Oh? Way more? Remember when I use
that type and my hair joined my eyebrows and I
had to have it threadned. So I often neglect that
area because I, you know, doing my skincare and whatever
(15:40):
chemicsolion or my vitamin A. I often don't even I
offically do stuff to its skincare wise, but not enough.
And this happened to me when my makeup was great.
I knew all the layers. I know what layers play well,
but just these two, like my temple pretty much or
just above my browbone to my hair was peeling.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah, because even if you think about if you do
have a lot of space, yeah, a lot of the
time we just sort of focus on that center part
of our face and we don't. I even sometimes have
to remind myself to do my skin care up onto
my ears, yes, like my especially sunscreen, the sunscreen and
exfoliation because that skin is really neglected.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Okay exactly, And I'm going to recommend some products, but
use one of these because I've got some just you
know Bha you wanted probably an Aha Bha blend, just
because there's sounds like there's a lot of dead skin
cells get rid of. But some of the wipes, like
I think a cloth wipe is really easy. Here, those
doctor Dennis Gross ones that are so expensive, yes, well
I've got cheaper ones, well are they? I mean they're
(16:39):
not as expensive. The First Aid Beauty has like a
little twenty eight pad travel thing, and also there is
the prep and Glow by New Face, and they've got
little individually packed cloths. Can I tell you get one
of these when you're doing your little eyebrow bit do
this behind your ear and look at it. It's disgusting.
It's disgusting. And also do your back because we often
(17:02):
don't scrub out maw. I agree, but just like do
this and then also do in your ear and all
around like this behind here is foul. I do mind
quite a lot because I enjoy it. So long story short, Naomi,
it's probably exfoliation, so use you know, anything that you've
got at home if you've already got a chemical exfoliant.
The Paula's Choice BHA is great that now comes in
a little travel size. I related to travel sizes today.
(17:25):
It's a great way to try different things as well,
isn't it? As I said, the New Face little wipes
are great. So it's the first day they're like little discs,
but you could also try if you wanted something that's
a bit more manual. Although this has kind of enzymes
in it is our favorite dermalogica daily mycrofole oh yes,
which is like a little clay. You had a little
bit of water and then you can kind of custom
(17:45):
buff how much buffing you want, Yeah, how how much
stuffing you want on your face? I completely agree.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I actually think that that is the only possible option
as to what well.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I literally had this problem both sides, and I was like,
what's going on? And this was a time where I
was using the consistent like serum, sunscreen makeup. I knew
they worked well. I exfoliated ding ding fix it right up.
Please everyone go get a swipe or even just a
cotton pad and clean behind your ears and of your face.
It's so much fun. Yeah, and just report back on
(18:17):
the difference that it may And also when you're in
the shower, if you cleanse in the shower or not,
make sure you cleanse your ears as well. It's very important.
I clean mysee every day just because it feels so good.
I know it's not supposed to. Oh yes, the ear
buddy things, but no, I mean like actually not inside
your ear drum. Does inside your drum feel that's naughty?
I know. I like doing that with toothfoss. I don't.
We'll not in my ear anyway. You're supposed to floss
(18:38):
your teeth. That's good. Yeah, I know, but I like
my Oh okay, okay, onto beauty bite, beauty bite. I
did not even mean to have a segue. But mine's
got to do with tooth foss, does it? I wish
I brought some, but my hair's up anyway. So frizz
(18:59):
city's either raining and your hair's frizzy, or it's getting
humid and your hair's frizzy. Maybe not when I want.
I know I'm weird, but obviously sometimes you can just
use product and a serum. You can use a toothbrush.
But did you know this is what I've done when
I've been in an emergency, a frizz emergency. Do you
have toothfloss with you, like all the time? No, because
(19:21):
I hate the feeling and I never floss my teeth.
I'm fine. The dentist has not. Well, look, I'm a
flos addict, and it's not great. I normally have those
little pixture things. But if you've got regular toothfloss and
you don't have any hair products, you get a tiny
bit of lip balm or something and you put it
on the floss. I wish I could do that doesn't
even already have like some product on it. It's a
bit waxy, but you know, we're working with frieze here, okay.
(19:42):
And then you put it. I put it on my
cent apart and then I go, h really firm. I
bet that works a tree.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It does.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's so satisfying. I mean, if you've got hairspray, great
or like whatever. But if you've literally stuck on a
desert island with lip palm and toothfloss and you're really
worried about your frizz, you know, because the island's great,
you literally get like a length of you know, a
couple of centimet well, what's that twenty centimeters? I don't know, yes,
And then like just like I just put like a
(20:09):
tiny bit of lip balm. I've got like a a
chuby lip barm on it, and then you just hold
it where your parties are, where the frizze is quite firm,
like like you're putting a hat on, and then you
just slide it down the lengths of your hair and
it just MUSHes. Yes, and then you're not getting lots
of juicy lip farm on your hands, but also your
hands are way too heavy handed because it's the tiniest
(20:30):
string with the coating of lip balm, it just smushes
them down. But it's like nothing happened. That's genius. That's
actually I love that I starting a guiver of beauty. Yeah,
you really should. It should be like a little sub channel. Yeah,
I've run out of ideas, but that was all I
had besides all my other great ones. What's your beauty?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
It's a bit of a PSA, and I'm going to
loving a p SA right now. I actually really am
an I I feel like, yeah, soap and we will
link the video that I'm referencing in the show notes.
But it's been making the rounds on socials over the
last couple of weeks. There was this lovely lass who
(21:08):
basically came out and talked about what an esthetician has
done to her skin.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Have you seen it? Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
In La an esthetician is kind of like between a
skin therapist and a dermatologist.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I would say, like they've done a bit of training,
but not well. I mean it also depends where here.
They're very good. They are. Yeah, America, I think you
can just like go and buy lasers and stuff and
call yourself. And it was just a reminder.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
So firstly, this esthetician who she trusted with her face
after many treatments, burnt her skin, actually burnt her skin
so badly.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
The treatment was she having. Do you recall they were
doing appeal? Yeah, yes, that's right. Appeals. People think, oh,
it's just appeal. It's just something that you can know,
like putting acid on your phone. People can go so wrong.
And this is just why it's so important to know
who you're going to and anyway, and then she proceeded
to like the lady was kept trying to fix it.
(22:02):
She spent sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Firstly, if someone ever stuffed something up, they kept.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Going going back to the same person trying to get
it fixed because the lady said, hey, I can help
you with this. I can fix this. But that lady
should have then covered it. I remember, but I would
also not go back to that.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
No, no, no, But I remember when my sister was younger,
she's always had really sensitive skin, and she went to
a salon for her eyebrows to be threaded and plucked,
and they waxed, and she'd said to them, I've got
sensitive skin.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Much skin lift. It like literally takes his skin off.
And that happened.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
And the next day was her formal and she was
so self conscious and I called them up and I said,
she told you that she had sensitive skin, and I've
always been a really like bossy big sister, I said,
so you can.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Help her cover this up. So I took her back.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
In there and made them help cover it up because
my makeup wasn't cutting it. And also just to be like,
look what you did because you didn't listen.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I think it's a really important reminder that these things
are serious. You know, we especially in our beauty bubble here,
we talk about these things like it ain't no thing,
but getting professional treatments, whether it's needling, lasers, peels, it's
pretty full on and it can cause a lot of
damage in the wrong hand. So word of mouth, asking
for recommendations from friends.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Also trusting your gut. So I have told you about
this before. When I was in my twenties, I was
doing a trial with a brand, so I was in
beauty media, so it was comped and I was doing
weekly facials because they were trying to clear up my accounts,
and my skin progressively got worse, and it looked always burnt,
and my acne was just catastrophically getting worse, and they
(23:45):
were going, it's purging, it's purging. No, no, ugg, You're
not purging for that long. And in the end I
did finally listen to my gut and just went, no, no,
this is not right. But I just I really felt
for that girl. And it's just a real reminder to
look into. Don't buy group on vouchers for treatments, don't
go to someone with little to no qualifications, sex.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Word of mouth, asking the your beauty Facebook, and how
about a consultant. Go home and think about it afore.
But there's a scar on my arm that's from when
I was nineteen. I got the bus in from where
I lived into the city and I had a laser
hair removal test patch back then. Because I've got very
hairy arms, I shaved them now see business, and that
scar still I'm forty three, because they burnt, like through
(24:30):
to the bone. And I remember calling the next day
and like there was no camera phones. I was like,
and so I had to go back and show them
and they're like, oh, that's yeah, that's your fault. And
I was like, okay, And I was already ashamed of
my hairy arms, and you know then you have ashamed
of your scars. And that's the thing. Well, I'm not
I'm just like your negodgence. But when you're younger, I
don't think there was no social media to call people out.
(24:50):
And I'm not a huge calling out.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I firmly believe that a lot of business should be
handled behind closed doors because you don't realize that it
can really impact a small business, So if you can
sort it out behind.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Closed doors, please, And most people have good intentions, but yes,
follow your gut, do you. Yeah, I just don't go
for the bargain when it's your face in someone else's hands.
I was just a little another soapbox persae for you
that toothfloss soapboxes. Better finally go home and washing my makeup. Oh,
I hope you had a good time. Thank you so
much for joining us on New Beauty. We'll be back
together our gosh, before we know what. I hope Kelly's
(25:20):
been home by then hopefully I've showered. If you will
faith in the meantime, follow us on Instagram you can
see all the behind the scenes troops and on YouTube.
That's where the episodes go live. Every single note. The
episodes drop in your podcast feed in the morning and
then on YouTube later at nighttime. Yeah, so you can
listen and then watch, or you can do whatever your
(25:41):
preference is. Yeah, and we'll see you next time. Bye bye,
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