December 7, 2025 • 30 mins
Stop diluting your serums and check your mascara expiry date immediately! Leigh and Kelly are back with a Q&A Monday wake-up call, exposing the big beauty mistakes you're making right now. Is your lotion not cutting it? Leigh has the non-negotiable solutions for fighting crepey skin, from internal fixes to major in-clinic options. Plus, we settle the ultimate shower cleansing showdown, find out why your hot water and quick cleanses are sabotaging your face!
The Beauty Edit dives into the post-shopping chaos: Who won the Black Friday bonanza on Amazon (hello, Medicube and CeraVe), the scary truth behind the teen skincare ban, and the crucial reminder to check your product expiry dates!
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Hero Cosmetics Mighty Patch™ Original Patch $14.29
Paula's Choice 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant $54
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GLAM 3D Lash $19.99
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to I'm Mom and mea podcast. Makeup is
My Therapy. I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty
a body.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, and welcome to you Beauty the podcast for Your Face.
My Face is We Campbell, My Face is Kelly McCarron.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And before we get in to our Q and A
Monday episode, here's what's happening in the land of beauty
with our Beauty Edit.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Welcome back to the Beauty Edit. I'm Cass Momame's morning editor.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And I'm Taylor Cass. Let's get straight into it. What's
happening in the beauty world this week.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So we all know it's been Black Friday. I'm sure
a lot of ubies have been spending up.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I know I have.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I wanted to talk about the top beauty brands that
won for Black Friday on Amazon because there was a
lot of spending going on. So the top ten brands
accounted for just under fifty percent of the total Amazon
beauty sales, so they seriously made their mark for this year.
And skincare that was the most dominant category across the winners.
So look, Taylor, I was wondering if you could chut
us through some of these.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Okay. So, according to Amazon, the most purchased brand in
the beauty space for Black Friday is medi Cube sixteen
point four percent of the market share, which that seems
like a little number, but when you put it into perspective,
that is a huge chunk of beauty lovers buying Medicube.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And I don't know if you've seen all the influencers
that are loving Medicube, but I know Kylie Jenner has
been using it. Jeffrey Star did a video, and they're
really well known for their collagen jelly cream and salmon
DNA peter and pink peptid serum. You've probably seen that
all of your social media. But I think the thing
a lot of people were buying, and I'm curious to
know this this wasn't in the stats. It's a Meticube
boost of Pro, which is kind of like their technological advice.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's like the little wand yeah, yeah, the little one.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I feel like with Black Friday. I don't know about ucas,
but I'm like, am I buying for myself? Or am
I going to use this time responsibly and purchase all
my Christmas gifts? I definitely bought for myself.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I definitely bought for myself.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Also in that list, sarah A coming in with five
percent of the market share, which is no so price.
Serave already a super affordable brand, but when you can
get a little bit of extra discount like why not
and sold Genera as well, which I feel like shouldn't
be a surprise.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
They are so beloved gear.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Down Under and so again, anytime to score a little
bit of a discount, we should take it exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Shout out to number sixty eight from Solider Genero, big fan.
Heading down the rest of us, we had Bio Dance, Eos,
Laura Gala, Clean Skin Club, Neutrophol, which is like a
hair supplement which I thought was really interesting, laurash Prose,
and Hero Cosmetics. And I think the thing that we're
really seeing across these brands are the things people use
every day that things are going to run out of.
They're things they want to purchase ahead of time while
(02:42):
it's on sale, which really is the trend for Black
Friday and beauty.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Okay, second one here, I'm gonna shove some news into
people's face in amongst the beauty it but I promise
there's a connection. So in case you missed it. In
two days time, everybody on vage of sixteen, they're about
to be booted off social media in Australia. All their
accounts are going to be deactivated as part of the
government world first social media ban, things like TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,
(03:06):
you know, all the play. So as part of that,
you're probably thinking, well, what has this got to do
with the beauty edit? Why is it being told to
me in a new beauty episode in cast you're going
to shed some light on this. What are the implications
for booting teens off the internet, off social media when
it comes to beauty.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, I think it's all about the rise of teens skincare,
and I think we've seen a lot of backlash from
parents and educators about the way that they're being influenced.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Towards beauty products.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Obviously SBF skincare, there's certain elements of skincare that are
for all, but especially the use of anti aging skincare.
And I think the point is that social media is
the key driver of this. So there's been a few
studies on this. So we had one inclinic sy of
Dermatology that really spoke about teens using an increased amount
of often unsuitable skincare on their skin, fueled by TikTok.
(03:53):
And there was another study that found that people around
the age of eleven were using potentially irritating active ingredients.
So there's a lot of this going on, And I
think the beauty implication of them being bearded off social
media is.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Will it have an impact on what they do?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I know, Taylor, you recently spoke to someone about all
the kind of loopholes that young people are using, Like,
surely they'll still find a way to share about beauty
even if it's not on Instagram, Facebook, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Like there's a whole bunch of new social media apps
that are popping up. All the teens are sort of
flocking there. There's lots of other little loopholes. If you
want to hear them, they'll be in the quickie from
last week. But I think it's interesting, right, like pros
and cons to everything you take kids of social media.
You hide them from some hums of the Internet, but
you also hide them from like a wealth of knowledge.
So for every kid that's slapping you know, retinol and
(04:39):
exfoliants and irritants on their face they probably don't need.
There's also a bunch of kids out there who are
learning about how to take care of their skin for
the first time as well, so it'll be really interesting
to see as well, like the decrease in kids popping
up places like Sephora. We know about like the Sephori
kids phenomenon that happened a few years ago and Mecca.
I wonder if this will have a real world effect
(05:00):
in real time on like the beauty industry in terms
of what people are buying and how much of it all. Right, cas,
last one for you, I'm about to expose myself, but
also maybe you when's the last time you checked the
expiry dates on your makeup.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I actually had a really triggering experience for this the
other day because I was going through my skincare cabinet
pulling out things that I wanted to kind of pull
back into the routine, and most of it was expired
and it was quite a slap in the face. So
I thought we could go through some of the products.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
That you should have a look at, maybe right now, Okay, okay,
because in my understanding is that yes, beauty, skincare, makeup,
they all have expiry dates. It's that little number on
the package. The problem is I don't remember when I
opened them from that date.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean, not a bad idea to write it
down if you're forgetful. I do tend to remember when
I made purchases. Or you can obviously always check when
you bought it. But a few things to know is
I think the main one being sunscreen. According to the
Cancer Council, yours should use the label, but most sunscreens
last between two and three years and should be sort
at a temperature below thirty degrees, which I actually wasn't
really across. Most of my sunscreens are at the beach
(05:59):
in the hot sun.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Totally.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Also, like you're using sunscreen every day, shouldn't be lasting
you three years.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I mean, yeah, that's the point. We'll use it before
you get but just always check them. Always check the label.
Your pillows very interesting for those who are acne prone,
should be replaced every three years.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Oh my god, Okay, I love my pill I'm not
ready to break up with it.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Then we've got liquid foundation. This is generally good for
about a year. Hopefully you're getting through it before then.
But if you're a light foundation user, or if you
have a couple worth checking. And then your open mascaratube
it's only six.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Months, okay, that feels like not enough time.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I don't wear enough Musca off I know.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
But then expire mascara Kenley to ie infection, so it
is really worth checking if you can a few other tips.
If you're using actives and acids, definitely have a look
at that number because they expire way quicker than you
think and the actives degrade, so you're basically putting something
on your skin that's not going to work anymore. Wash
your brushes regularly, something that we all tend.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
To not do.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
But you can get little x brown brush cleaners now
that are really clean spot cleaning.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I will admit that I know when it's time to
clean my brushes because I'll get.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
A little breakout here or there.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, that's because they're really dirty.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's about time.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And then finally, just using scoop applicators if you have
a pot, so that you're not like sticking your fingers
in and contaminating it. So there are just a few
little hacks to get your skincare up to date.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do a little end of your.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Clean up, Okay, it's an order in the bathroom cabinet tonight.
That's all for the Beauty Edit this week. Let's get
back to Q and A with Lene Kelly.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
You ask plenty questions.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
If you did a freaky Friday and you could switch
with anyone for a day, who would it be.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I've got absolutely no idea. Someone really wealthy.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Would you be, like I could ash in so you
could just lay there and get all the treatment.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No. No, I'd be someone that had a partner that
I find really attractive, so I can have sex with
them all day.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Gross, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You'd be my husband, just to see what he thinks about.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
No, that's boring. I choose like, who is someone who's
on your hall past.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I don't know who his wife is, but Lyn Manuel Miranda,
So his wife.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, So you'd be his wife and then you could
have sex to him all day.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I didn't think we're going to go there anyway. It's
a Monday.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Wow, clearly I'm a little bit freaky this Monday. You are,
aren't you.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's a Monday, so we answer you be questions. I'm
so excited because our first question is a voice note.
We asked the ubis to send them. We do love
get voice, so send more. But we're going to answer
two amazing questions and then our beauty bart of the week.
We've both got something to show and tell, so make
sure you're watching along on YouTube because that's where you
can actually see the things exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So let's kick things off with our voice note from
Megan high Le and Kelly.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Longtime listener, first time caller. Love listening to the pod
mostly at the gym. I don't know if that makes
you feel weird. I have a question that I hope Kelly.
Maybe you have also been dealing with this forty two
perimenopausal skin like city on mainly the arms, like forearms.
(08:55):
Not sure why they're but it's sort of getting floppy.
I can't quite explain it. Moisturizers don't seem to help.
I've recently introduced my face trett Noan a little bit
with body moisturizer. I feel like maybe there's a better
way to do this. Would love to hear your thoughts
as to what might help. Thanks so much, Bye, Okay,
(09:17):
I have a lot of opinions. I guess I should
say information.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
However, I want to preface it with I'm not a dietitian,
I'm not a doctor, I'm not an intritionist.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm not a woo woo.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You are Perry, though I am Perry, and I do
relate to this from my life stage. Although she says, Kelly, yeah,
I wonder if she mixed us up, though I think
it's I you don't mind me mentioning just because you've
talked about it on your other podcast, why you've lost
a little bit of weight and it can happen from
weight loss as well. Oh, actually I do definitely on
my stomach, but that was after I gave birthday mine
(09:47):
from carrying Alexander. He was a huge baby, and it's
just always going to be there and I don't care,
so let me give you some informations. But I was
like lee Is Brunette, Yeah, I'm Perry, and getting that
crepiness like paper like my mom, like a stuck tissue paper. Anyway,
it is her skin's like tissue paper, gets like you're
born bored and then you go down to like tissue paper, yes,
(10:08):
and rice things that packing and you can wet them
and they shrink you. Okay, So my lovely friend Megan.
Like I said, I'm not an expert, speak to you, doctor,
but unfortunately, well not unfortunately, but most of the privilege
aging is a privilege. Most of it is lifestyle related
first and foremost it's just gonna happen. It's just like
(10:30):
this is also an awful analogy, but you know, an
apple fresh off the tree is fresh, and then it
kind of just.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh my, I know that is so accurate.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But if you're a supermarket you could just spray it
with heaps of wax and kind of keep it going.
But it's still with that age. So mostly it's lifestyle.
So you want to do some strength training or weight training.
Everyone gets told this as soon as you hit Perry
and the algorithm finds you because building muscle makes the
skin appear firmer because underneath is something firm, if that
makes sense. Protein rich food and diet because protein is king.
(11:01):
This is for everyone, not just when you're pary, but it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Is very important. When I was interviewing Susan Arrow from Neurium,
she was actually, I know, I know, I love it.
I think I listened to a three time Oh my goodness,
but I didn't realize how important, Like I've always known
that weight training is important, but she was even talking
about how it's not just Pilati's it's important, like you
need to be lifting weights.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yes, but again, make sure you know what you're doing,
because I've once done a catabell on my own and
literally was in physio for.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Why does that shock? Probably absolutely no one exploices me. Well,
I was like I to say it, Yeah, I'm just
gonna swiel it this way.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And for me, who's taken a break from any exercise,
couldn't even lift a pencil. So I've gone back to
reform of polarts just to get some semblance of a
muscle so I can lift more than a pencil. But
obviously speak to a doctor. We're not doctors. As I mentioned,
protein rich food, and then the next one is collagen. Now, listen,
(11:57):
collagen needs amino acids to keep being collogeny. Do you
know where amino acids come from?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Protein rich foods? Oh, I know, boring, boring, I mean
the beauty stuff in a moment. Lastly, before we get
into the actual beauty things, hydration and a lot of
people really kind of realize now that drinking lots of
water doesn't directly impact your skin type. Say you're dry,
drinking lots of water can't change your skin type. However,
your skin and your body needs hydration, so the collagen
(12:26):
fibers a bit more trampoline, a bit more bouncy. And
the way I can illustrate that is, if you've ever
had a few too many drinks and woken up the
next day, then your skin is dehydrated and you just
look older and wrinkler, and your skin needs more juice.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yes, so I'm not.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Saying just when you're hungover or if you hungover, but
more hydration is better for your whole body, but mostly
your collagen to be like a little trampoline. Okay, so
do all of the things that I'm not doing well same?
I mean, you know what live your life last on
that just healthy food. It's like putting topicals on your skin.
So vitamin's AC and E are antioxidants and they fight
free radicals, which are the bad guys Amiga three's, which
(13:04):
is just like putting a face oil on, but on
your insights. In terms of treatments and actual products, what
do you think because it's hard when it's your whole
body is expensive, like it just costs an absolute fortune
and nothing is guaranteed to actually it is if you
spend thousands of dollars, tens of thousands. So maybe go
(13:24):
back to freaky frit A and b kim and it's
probably working for me. Yeah, So topically, be mindful that
there's not going to be a miracle. Things can help,
you have to be consistent, but still it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
It's mainly about keeping your skin hydrated and nourish, yeah,
from the outside as well as the inside, so that
it doesn't appear correct crapy and sort of it's the appearance.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You hear that with cellulite as well, because you can't
really fix it, so it's minimize the appearance of so
Vitamin A products of course will help a little bit
that promotes collagen cell turnover. Chemical exolients do that to
a degree as well, but don't go ham on those
your favorite peptides because they're fermi peptide.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
But again talking a full body, so.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know, just manager expectations and then you'll see a
lot of firming lotions that have got like caffeine in them,
and obviously hyaluronic acid is hydrating and that's basically because
it's just going to be an instant plump or a
booster circulation. So not a huge amount you can do
at home, but still worth doing. We need to hydrate anyway, right, yeah, exactly,
And then inclining, there's a couple of options. Again expensive,
(14:30):
some downtime, but it depends you know, up to you
like for example, for me, it's mostly my arms. I
don't care like, I'm still not going to do any
of this. I care more about my face. But you
don't have to get a whole body done.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You could just get some specific areas you're maybe a
little bit more self conscious about. Like if I was
going to bother with one area, yes, it would be
my stomach because because we're stretched. And well, we went,
but both of us got very prepre.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I was humans the other day and I was induced
because they said your baby's so big, and then he
was three point one here lost Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well Lenny was big, but I was like, why was I?
I guess it's the fluid. Some people just carry so differently.
But yeah, so you go out and then you come
back in and because both of us were over thirty,
No it wasn't actually, but in our thirties when we
had the boys. Your skin doesn't bounce back. It's already
like oh thanks, and I don't care like I don't human.
(15:24):
But if I was going to do one area, it
would probably be my stomach.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Interesting well, for that, I would recommend some sort of
ultrasound treatment like a HYPHO that's a bit more hardcore
than radio frequency, so RF micro and needling more for
your eight homage that's like radiofrequency, you'd.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Probably start there.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Then you've got your ultrasound therapies like your high food
that works deeper than radio frequencies. And then lastly, but
if you really care, a lot of people do this
to their face and neck. Is like the laser skin tightening,
so fractional, the hectic, the heck throa off your whole thing.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Also, can you imagine how much that would be on
body parts though it's so expensive on your face.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Oh my gosh, I agree, But also your whole face
tools up. You can't even really see or eat. So
if you really hated your tummy, for example, I don't
know if they can even do it on there, but
at least you could like go.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Hours in an hour. I think I'd actually rather get
a mini facelift than that. Oh see, I'm considering CO two. Really.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, maybe not now because I've had friends doing winter,
but because I don't get anti wrinkle. Because it's good
for pigmentation, it's good for timing, it's good for everything
anyway down the track. So you've got radio frequency, ultrasound
or lasers, but go to a reputable place, talk to them,
don't make the decision on the swat and have it done.
Don't go for a discount pack. Really do you research
if you want to do anyways, Amy has sent to
(16:44):
us as steamy dear, holding that quite far away, you're
starting to need glasses. No, it's because the mic was
in the way high ladies literally halfway through a shower
and thought of a question I had to ask immediately.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Do I think she stopped the shower and typed it.
I do, because that's what I would do if I
had a thought that I really didn't want to lose.
I just get my phone in there, I say hey Siri,
and then I text myself, yeah, you're smart, though I
don't ever think to I saw someone using Syria the
other day.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I use the actually everything, but then I swear to
it her when she gets wrong. Oh that's not anyway,
poor Amy, She's turned the shower off.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Do I need to remove my makeup before I exfoliate
my face? I usually only wear sunscreen and a light
layer of it cosmetic CC, and I've always cleansed with
my cellar water before exfoliation. I use a gentle chemical exfoliator,
by the way, and I almost always exfoliate my face
in the shower. That's the pause and immediate messaging, and
then cleanse with a face wash afterwards to rinse off
(17:39):
any lingering exfoliant. I can be a bit of a
lazy girl. So it occurred to me, after forty years
on this planet, that I could have been saving time
and skipping the first cleanse. I mean, chemical exfoliator is
just going to take that off, right.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But wait, there's more this question So that's now this
is Kelly speaking.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, so that was the end of Amy's DM. But
then Kelly speaking, But wait, there's more. This question prompted
you beauty producer Sophie to ask her, I want to
the box off. She made her remember something she's been
meaning to ask us for ages. Sophie, I read an
article last night that said that you shouldn't cleanse your
face in the shower. What tell me if that's true
(18:18):
and why? Okay, great questions, Sophie and Amy. We're all
in the shower.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, Amy, I love your immediacy and curiosity. Look, short
answer is, yeah, you do. You do need to take
off your makeup and your skincare before you get in
the shower. Makeup, skincare, sunscreen, and definitely before you chemical exfoliate.
You say, do I need to remove my makeup before
I exfoliate my face? Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:42):
My gosh.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes, okay, so exfoliation is not removal. Your removal is
to take off debris, sunscreen, makeup. Exfoliation is there to
munch at the skin. Its job is not to munch
at makeup and sunscreen. It doesn't know how to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's like great analogy.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, it's like trying to feed Carely a remote control.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
She can't eat that. She can eat, she explained, she
can eat, you know, food, but not a remote control. Soo,
do you know what I mean? Brain today?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well, this just blew my mind and then I have
to ask her a question. She's not here though, but yes,
what ideally we want to do is cleanse before the shower.
So what I do is, because I also am a
lazy girl, is I start my oil or balm cleanser
out of the shower.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I've turned the shower on. Should should? She should?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Then I get in the shower and then I emulsify
and remove. Then I do a gentle second cleanse in
the shower cream cleanser or milk or whatever. But Amy,
you really shouldn't be I mean, the police won't come,
but you really shouldn't be using a chemical exfolient in
the shower.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I don't know really no.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I mean maybe she's just standing there, but the water's
not on because what it's gonna do, it's gonna dilute
the product. The product isn't actually gonna work like the
water turns it off and it can definitely cause irritation.
So no water and chemical exfoliants together, like definitely not
your Paula's choice.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
BHA.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
There's some body products that are made for the shower
that have chemical exfolient in it. That's different because they're
formulated that way. It's also in your body, not yeah,
but it's formulated to be wet with other stuff. So
if we're talking just let's use Fuller's choice as an example.
That needs to go on fresh skin that's not wet,
so please don't do that. So she's talking about a
physical exfoliant, though, like say the gemological chemical, I use
(20:17):
a gentle chemical exfoliator. Firstly, your chemical exfoliator is not
a cleanser, and your chemical exfoliator is not allowed in
the shower.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I'm sorry. I mean, do what you want. I mean,
if someone's listening though, and they do use a physical exfoliator.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Totally, oh my gosh, that's fine. Sometimes if I'm going
to do that after I've done my second cleanse, I
just have mine, which is a bit it's got a
bit gross, but like my dermologic and microfoliant just kind
of out there. I kind of dry my hands a bit,
put a bit on, and then just drop a few
bits of water and make that muddy kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I do that in there. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But yeah, chemical exfoliance will be turned off by the water,
but be diluted and it could really cause irritation. You
don't want to do that now, Hi, sofam point looking
at sofa, this is all really interesting and related. Technically,
you shouldn't well, It depends on how you shower, but
technically you shouldn't cleanse your face in the shower.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
A lot of the skincare xp say that you should.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I do too, and I always I do the first.
I do my oil cleans in the shower too.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The reason that they say you shouldn't, there's a couple
of reasons, but the main one is is that your
water is generally way too hot a shower because you
only want luke or water for your face, and then
it's going to be causing a lot of damage. It
can break capillories, it just it just deteriorates the barrier exactly.
So that's why they say don't cleanse.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So because people might cleanse and then go like that,
like pummeling water on your face.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, not, don't do that. I don't have a hot shower.
Oh my god, I have.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Burning I hate. But I don't cleanse in my morning shower.
If I'm just like doing a rinse, it's quite lukewarm.
And I might do a gentle cleans if I have
at my salad, but at night I do it all
at the basin.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, I think that if you're having really hot showers
and you put, you're the type of person that would
put I don't often wash my hair in the shower.
I don't often ever wash my hair, like say, I
wash my hair like separately where in the shower, but
not while I'm having a shower.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Okay, it's like I get it. You kind of section
it off as a.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Separate step, like I've got one of the things that
comes off it, Yeah, the head, Yes, and I put
my head over the bath part of the shower and
do It's actually also a really good point.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It depends what allder you do it, because if you're
washing your hair, the residu you will go on your
face and that's not good, Like do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, it's also not something you can really help though if.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You're but that's why the order, like you should wash
your hair first and if you're going to cleanse in
the shower last, so maybe turn it down to lukewarm
and then in the shower.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It just depends how you do it, Like, yeah, I
can cleanse in the shower because I don't wash my hair,
so I'm never putting my whole head under the streaming
water and it's not that hot. I always have lukewarm shower.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah. And one point, I guess one more to make is,
which is so counterintuitive, but too much water really dries
your skin out. So if you're in the shower for
a long time, well even any water, yeah, it just
zaps all the moistow.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I think about when you're on holidays, if you're in
the ocean every single.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Day, think about when you go puni in the bath
your skin has is like literally had all the moist
just sucked out it or filled up anyway. So look, Amy,
you're doing everything wrong, but we love you.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't care. But it's beauty. Like if it's not
exactly skin likes to go for it. I break the
rules all the time. All right, beauty. Bye of the week.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
We've both got show and tell. Kelly mccaren, I've been
talking a lot, so oh want you to show me.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's silly season. There's a lot of Kelly season.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
There's a lot of parties and soirees and such a
for me, but keep going for a lot of even
think about family, christmasciety. A lot of people might be
more interested than normal to delve into the world of
a false eyelab. Absolutely now is the time but a
lot of people find them very hard to apply. So
this is just a very really the ones you've brought
(24:01):
the Well, this is why my tip is when you're
actually in the shops looking, I want you to have
a look for specific types. So I've got two different
types here to show you. So this is you definitely
have to go over to YouTube to have a look
at what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So here is one lash. They're very hard to show,
aren't they. This is one strip lash. It is a mustache.
It's ginormous. But this is what a lot of them
actually look like in the packet. But it's a really
thick strip lash, and so what that means, and yes,
you can still cut it down. Sometimes people are like, oh,
(24:39):
but I cut them down anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Like half, Well, when you pull something that is this
thick out of the packet, you're going to see how
hard it is to manipulate. The band. The band is
the part on the bottom that all of the hairs
are stuck into that then you would stick on top
(25:00):
of your natural lash. And because it's holding so much hair,
this band is really thick and it's really hard to manipulate.
So it's going to make it harder to stick it
onto your natural lash in a natural easy way.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, it's almost like wiry, it's exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yes, they are.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, and it's very obvious, so if you get it wrong,
you can't really fix it exactly, and then you create
flash lesson and then.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You've got a really just obvious black. Yeah, it looks
like you've done in the wrong spot exactly on your eye.
I'm going to pick up another one, also very fluffy.
Who use that I have? It's kind of disgusting. It's okay,
I read lash just so expensive. They really are. But
as you can see with this band, the band is
(25:46):
basically non existent because the hairs just are a lot
more fluffier and sparser, and it's not, of course, it's
not going to create the sort of impact that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
May from here. Is that what they call an invisible band?
It's almost like fishing wire or is there? Is it
black a bit?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It is black a little bit, and it's just got
a bit of glue water, which is sort of so
you still would need to like, you still need to
stick it on and everything, but this you could literally
do it in or not. It is so easy to
manipulate and move and shape to the contour of your
specific eye shape.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Everyone needs to watch this on YouTube. Yeah, it makes
feel fascinating lesson.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's very hard to explain, but when you're shopping for
fake lashes, have a look at the band. We want
to look for thin, almost nonexistent looking bands.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I always go for what they call invisible, so they
kind of is a clear it's a fishing line, but
it's that kind of vibe.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
They're so much easier to apply because they're so much
easier to manipulate to the shape of your eye. I agree, Yeah,
you're just going to have a lot more success. So
that's my tip when shopping for a fake eyelash to
look at the band.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yes, and like, if you're going for address up, that
first one's great. My beauty butt is also show and tell.
It's well loved. This is also my second one. Lucky,
I've bought twelve. I'm what twelve well as gifts. I'm
a very proud and bassador for Good Feel Better, which
is an organization that raises money for people going through
cancer treatment. It receives no government funding, so it's all
on ambassadors like me to help raise money.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And just the good people like you.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Every year they do a Christmas bond bond and you
buy it and all the money goes to the charity.
They couldn't fit all the products in the bonbon this year,
so they've done a Christmas box. So for twenty five
dollars you order this perfect KK gift. I bought all
of them for their school teachers and stuff. My first
one Alexander opened, and then this one well you know life,
(27:39):
but the restill looked like I did, I think, so
for twenty five dollars and again you can have a
look at this on YouTube. You get over one hundred
dollars worth of products.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I know, it's so good. So there's products like and
all these.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Brands donate to look good for better their products to
then put them in the than the money. The twenty
five dollars goes to the charity, absolutely, and the charity
is straight to you know, it's not a lot of
red tape goes trust me, it goes straight there. So
there's brands like a Van birdbed o'claren. Yeah, I'm going
to have sure that's alex had to open the first
one because I need to know what I'm giving the teachers,
(28:13):
Clarence go to skincare, So there's a mixture of premium
samples and big products and one hundred percent of proceeds
go to Look Good, Feel Better, supporting free access to
Confidence Mystic workshops in person and online for anyone in
Australia going through cancer treatment. So I've already ordered mine.
Yours will not come crushed like this. But this is
a great teachers gift or KK. But also if you're
just doing like little stocking stuffers, or you're having like
(28:34):
a lunch or something, you can just open it up
and split it up.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
They're all a bit different, so in there, they've all
got different stuff in there. Yeah, they've all got a
bit of a different stuff. So oh glam Lash Kelly
could tell us about the band, the Loxatan arm and
shower oil. I won't show you all, but they're honestly incredible.
Clarence Vita Glow. I need that today, Nivea. Look, there's
(28:59):
just so many great things. So for twenty five fantastic
one hundred percent of that money is going to charity.
You're getting over one hundred dollars worth of products yourself
or your friend. It comes in a beautiful box. You
don't even have to like do anything. But yeah, so
sorry to use my platform to plug my charity, but
that's what I'm here.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
If you're an awful person, how very dare you plug
a chain?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
How dare I give the UBIS a box full of
products and a charity donation? Know?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So that was my show and tell. That's fantastic. Yeah,
well that's all we have in store for you today.
But I'll be back in your eyes and ears tomorrow.
Oh yes, I love Tuesday. Yes with a fabulous guest
on the form and O my goodness.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I can't beat Abby Chatfield. That was my favorite episode
of all time. I felt like you'd known each other forever. Anyway,
we've known each other forever.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
We've got to go.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Thank you so much for joining us on you beauty.
If you're not watching on YouTube, how about we tell
you for the one hundredth time talks on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Gone subscribe?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, like and subscribe if you're listening, Thank you so
much and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Bye,
You're listening to I'm Mom and mea podcast. Makeup is
My Therapy. I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty
a body.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, and welcome to you Beauty the podcast for Your Face.
My Face is We Campbell, My Face is Kelly McCarron.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And before we get in to our Q and A
Monday episode, here's what's happening in the land of beauty
with our Beauty Edit.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Welcome back to the Beauty Edit. I'm Cass Momame's morning editor.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And I'm Taylor Cass. Let's get straight into it. What's
happening in the beauty world this week.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So we all know it's been Black Friday. I'm sure
a lot of ubies have been spending up.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I know I have.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I wanted to talk about the top beauty brands that
won for Black Friday on Amazon because there was a
lot of spending going on. So the top ten brands
accounted for just under fifty percent of the total Amazon
beauty sales, so they seriously made their mark for this year.
And skincare that was the most dominant category across the winners.
So look, Taylor, I was wondering if you could chut
us through some of these.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Okay. So, according to Amazon, the most purchased brand in
the beauty space for Black Friday is medi Cube sixteen
point four percent of the market share, which that seems
like a little number, but when you put it into perspective,
that is a huge chunk of beauty lovers buying Medicube.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And I don't know if you've seen all the influencers
that are loving Medicube, but I know Kylie Jenner has
been using it. Jeffrey Star did a video, and they're
really well known for their collagen jelly cream and salmon
DNA peter and pink peptid serum. You've probably seen that
all of your social media. But I think the thing
a lot of people were buying, and I'm curious to
know this this wasn't in the stats. It's a Meticube
boost of Pro, which is kind of like their technological advice.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's like the little wand yeah, yeah, the little one.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I feel like with Black Friday. I don't know about ucas,
but I'm like, am I buying for myself? Or am
I going to use this time responsibly and purchase all
my Christmas gifts? I definitely bought for myself.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I definitely bought for myself.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Also in that list, sarah A coming in with five
percent of the market share, which is no so price.
Serave already a super affordable brand, but when you can
get a little bit of extra discount like why not
and sold Genera as well, which I feel like shouldn't
be a surprise.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
They are so beloved gear.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Down Under and so again, anytime to score a little
bit of a discount, we should take it exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Shout out to number sixty eight from Solider Genero, big fan.
Heading down the rest of us, we had Bio Dance, Eos,
Laura Gala, Clean Skin Club, Neutrophol, which is like a
hair supplement which I thought was really interesting, laurash Prose,
and Hero Cosmetics. And I think the thing that we're
really seeing across these brands are the things people use
every day that things are going to run out of.
They're things they want to purchase ahead of time while
(02:42):
it's on sale, which really is the trend for Black
Friday and beauty.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Okay, second one here, I'm gonna shove some news into
people's face in amongst the beauty it but I promise
there's a connection. So in case you missed it. In
two days time, everybody on vage of sixteen, they're about
to be booted off social media in Australia. All their
accounts are going to be deactivated as part of the
government world first social media ban, things like TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,
(03:06):
you know, all the play. So as part of that,
you're probably thinking, well, what has this got to do
with the beauty edit? Why is it being told to
me in a new beauty episode in cast you're going
to shed some light on this. What are the implications
for booting teens off the internet, off social media when
it comes to beauty.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, I think it's all about the rise of teens skincare,
and I think we've seen a lot of backlash from
parents and educators about the way that they're being influenced.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Towards beauty products.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Obviously SBF skincare, there's certain elements of skincare that are
for all, but especially the use of anti aging skincare.
And I think the point is that social media is
the key driver of this. So there's been a few
studies on this. So we had one inclinic sy of
Dermatology that really spoke about teens using an increased amount
of often unsuitable skincare on their skin, fueled by TikTok.
(03:53):
And there was another study that found that people around
the age of eleven were using potentially irritating active ingredients.
So there's a lot of this going on, And I
think the beauty implication of them being bearded off social
media is.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Will it have an impact on what they do?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I know, Taylor, you recently spoke to someone about all
the kind of loopholes that young people are using, Like,
surely they'll still find a way to share about beauty
even if it's not on Instagram, Facebook, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Like there's a whole bunch of new social media apps
that are popping up. All the teens are sort of
flocking there. There's lots of other little loopholes. If you
want to hear them, they'll be in the quickie from
last week. But I think it's interesting, right, like pros
and cons to everything you take kids of social media.
You hide them from some hums of the Internet, but
you also hide them from like a wealth of knowledge.
So for every kid that's slapping you know, retinol and
(04:39):
exfoliants and irritants on their face they probably don't need.
There's also a bunch of kids out there who are
learning about how to take care of their skin for
the first time as well, so it'll be really interesting
to see as well, like the decrease in kids popping
up places like Sephora. We know about like the Sephori
kids phenomenon that happened a few years ago and Mecca.
I wonder if this will have a real world effect
(05:00):
in real time on like the beauty industry in terms
of what people are buying and how much of it all. Right, cas,
last one for you, I'm about to expose myself, but
also maybe you when's the last time you checked the
expiry dates on your makeup.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I actually had a really triggering experience for this the
other day because I was going through my skincare cabinet
pulling out things that I wanted to kind of pull
back into the routine, and most of it was expired
and it was quite a slap in the face. So
I thought we could go through some of the products.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
That you should have a look at, maybe right now, Okay, okay,
because in my understanding is that yes, beauty, skincare, makeup,
they all have expiry dates. It's that little number on
the package. The problem is I don't remember when I
opened them from that date.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean, not a bad idea to write it
down if you're forgetful. I do tend to remember when
I made purchases. Or you can obviously always check when
you bought it. But a few things to know is
I think the main one being sunscreen. According to the
Cancer Council, yours should use the label, but most sunscreens
last between two and three years and should be sort
at a temperature below thirty degrees, which I actually wasn't
really across. Most of my sunscreens are at the beach
(05:59):
in the hot sun.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Totally.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Also, like you're using sunscreen every day, shouldn't be lasting
you three years.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I mean, yeah, that's the point. We'll use it before
you get but just always check them. Always check the label.
Your pillows very interesting for those who are acne prone,
should be replaced every three years.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Oh my god, Okay, I love my pill I'm not
ready to break up with it.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Then we've got liquid foundation. This is generally good for
about a year. Hopefully you're getting through it before then.
But if you're a light foundation user, or if you
have a couple worth checking. And then your open mascaratube
it's only six.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Months, okay, that feels like not enough time.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I don't wear enough Musca off I know.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
But then expire mascara Kenley to ie infection, so it
is really worth checking if you can a few other tips.
If you're using actives and acids, definitely have a look
at that number because they expire way quicker than you
think and the actives degrade, so you're basically putting something
on your skin that's not going to work anymore. Wash
your brushes regularly, something that we all tend.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
To not do.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
But you can get little x brown brush cleaners now
that are really clean spot cleaning.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I will admit that I know when it's time to
clean my brushes because I'll get.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
A little breakout here or there.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, that's because they're really dirty.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's about time.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And then finally, just using scoop applicators if you have
a pot, so that you're not like sticking your fingers
in and contaminating it. So there are just a few
little hacks to get your skincare up to date.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Do a little end of your.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Clean up, Okay, it's an order in the bathroom cabinet tonight.
That's all for the Beauty Edit this week. Let's get
back to Q and A with Lene Kelly.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
You ask plenty questions.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
If you did a freaky Friday and you could switch
with anyone for a day, who would it be.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I've got absolutely no idea. Someone really wealthy.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Would you be, like I could ash in so you
could just lay there and get all the treatment.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No. No, I'd be someone that had a partner that
I find really attractive, so I can have sex with
them all day.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Gross, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You'd be my husband, just to see what he thinks about.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
No, that's boring. I choose like, who is someone who's
on your hall past.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I don't know who his wife is, but Lyn Manuel Miranda,
So his wife.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, So you'd be his wife and then you could
have sex to him all day.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I didn't think we're going to go there anyway. It's
a Monday.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Wow, clearly I'm a little bit freaky this Monday. You are,
aren't you.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's a Monday, so we answer you be questions. I'm
so excited because our first question is a voice note.
We asked the ubis to send them. We do love
get voice, so send more. But we're going to answer
two amazing questions and then our beauty bart of the week.
We've both got something to show and tell, so make
sure you're watching along on YouTube because that's where you
can actually see the things exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So let's kick things off with our voice note from
Megan high Le and Kelly.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Longtime listener, first time caller. Love listening to the pod
mostly at the gym. I don't know if that makes
you feel weird. I have a question that I hope Kelly.
Maybe you have also been dealing with this forty two
perimenopausal skin like city on mainly the arms, like forearms.
(08:55):
Not sure why they're but it's sort of getting floppy.
I can't quite explain it. Moisturizers don't seem to help.
I've recently introduced my face trett Noan a little bit
with body moisturizer. I feel like maybe there's a better
way to do this. Would love to hear your thoughts
as to what might help. Thanks so much, Bye, Okay,
(09:17):
I have a lot of opinions. I guess I should
say information.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
However, I want to preface it with I'm not a dietitian,
I'm not a doctor, I'm not an intritionist.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm not a woo woo.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You are Perry, though I am Perry, and I do
relate to this from my life stage. Although she says, Kelly, yeah,
I wonder if she mixed us up, though I think
it's I you don't mind me mentioning just because you've
talked about it on your other podcast, why you've lost
a little bit of weight and it can happen from
weight loss as well. Oh, actually I do definitely on
my stomach, but that was after I gave birthday mine
(09:47):
from carrying Alexander. He was a huge baby, and it's
just always going to be there and I don't care,
so let me give you some informations. But I was
like lee Is Brunette, Yeah, I'm Perry, and getting that
crepiness like paper like my mom, like a stuck tissue paper. Anyway,
it is her skin's like tissue paper, gets like you're
born bored and then you go down to like tissue paper, yes,
(10:08):
and rice things that packing and you can wet them
and they shrink you. Okay, So my lovely friend Megan.
Like I said, I'm not an expert, speak to you, doctor,
but unfortunately, well not unfortunately, but most of the privilege
aging is a privilege. Most of it is lifestyle related
first and foremost it's just gonna happen. It's just like
(10:30):
this is also an awful analogy, but you know, an
apple fresh off the tree is fresh, and then it
kind of just.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh my, I know that is so accurate.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But if you're a supermarket you could just spray it
with heaps of wax and kind of keep it going.
But it's still with that age. So mostly it's lifestyle.
So you want to do some strength training or weight training.
Everyone gets told this as soon as you hit Perry
and the algorithm finds you because building muscle makes the
skin appear firmer because underneath is something firm, if that
makes sense. Protein rich food and diet because protein is king.
(11:01):
This is for everyone, not just when you're pary, but it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Is very important. When I was interviewing Susan Arrow from Neurium,
she was actually, I know, I know, I love it.
I think I listened to a three time Oh my goodness,
but I didn't realize how important, Like I've always known
that weight training is important, but she was even talking
about how it's not just Pilati's it's important, like you
need to be lifting weights.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yes, but again, make sure you know what you're doing,
because I've once done a catabell on my own and
literally was in physio for.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Why does that shock? Probably absolutely no one exploices me. Well,
I was like I to say it, Yeah, I'm just
gonna swiel it this way.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And for me, who's taken a break from any exercise,
couldn't even lift a pencil. So I've gone back to
reform of polarts just to get some semblance of a
muscle so I can lift more than a pencil. But
obviously speak to a doctor. We're not doctors. As I mentioned,
protein rich food, and then the next one is collagen. Now, listen,
(11:57):
collagen needs amino acids to keep being collogeny. Do you
know where amino acids come from?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Protein rich foods? Oh, I know, boring, boring, I mean
the beauty stuff in a moment. Lastly, before we get
into the actual beauty things, hydration and a lot of
people really kind of realize now that drinking lots of
water doesn't directly impact your skin type. Say you're dry,
drinking lots of water can't change your skin type. However,
your skin and your body needs hydration, so the collagen
(12:26):
fibers a bit more trampoline, a bit more bouncy. And
the way I can illustrate that is, if you've ever
had a few too many drinks and woken up the
next day, then your skin is dehydrated and you just
look older and wrinkler, and your skin needs more juice.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yes, so I'm not.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Saying just when you're hungover or if you hungover, but
more hydration is better for your whole body, but mostly
your collagen to be like a little trampoline. Okay, so
do all of the things that I'm not doing well same?
I mean, you know what live your life last on
that just healthy food. It's like putting topicals on your skin.
So vitamin's AC and E are antioxidants and they fight
free radicals, which are the bad guys Amiga three's, which
(13:04):
is just like putting a face oil on, but on
your insights. In terms of treatments and actual products, what
do you think because it's hard when it's your whole
body is expensive, like it just costs an absolute fortune
and nothing is guaranteed to actually it is if you
spend thousands of dollars, tens of thousands. So maybe go
(13:24):
back to freaky frit A and b kim and it's
probably working for me. Yeah, So topically, be mindful that
there's not going to be a miracle. Things can help,
you have to be consistent, but still it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
It's mainly about keeping your skin hydrated and nourish, yeah,
from the outside as well as the inside, so that
it doesn't appear correct crapy and sort of it's the appearance.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You hear that with cellulite as well, because you can't
really fix it, so it's minimize the appearance of so
Vitamin A products of course will help a little bit
that promotes collagen cell turnover. Chemical exolients do that to
a degree as well, but don't go ham on those
your favorite peptides because they're fermi peptide.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
But again talking a full body, so.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know, just manager expectations and then you'll see a
lot of firming lotions that have got like caffeine in them,
and obviously hyaluronic acid is hydrating and that's basically because
it's just going to be an instant plump or a
booster circulation. So not a huge amount you can do
at home, but still worth doing. We need to hydrate anyway, right, yeah, exactly,
And then inclining, there's a couple of options. Again expensive,
(14:30):
some downtime, but it depends you know, up to you
like for example, for me, it's mostly my arms. I
don't care like, I'm still not going to do any
of this. I care more about my face. But you
don't have to get a whole body done.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You could just get some specific areas you're maybe a
little bit more self conscious about. Like if I was
going to bother with one area, yes, it would be
my stomach because because we're stretched. And well, we went,
but both of us got very prepre.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I was humans the other day and I was induced
because they said your baby's so big, and then he
was three point one here lost Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well Lenny was big, but I was like, why was I?
I guess it's the fluid. Some people just carry so differently.
But yeah, so you go out and then you come
back in and because both of us were over thirty,
No it wasn't actually, but in our thirties when we
had the boys. Your skin doesn't bounce back. It's already
like oh thanks, and I don't care like I don't human.
(15:24):
But if I was going to do one area, it
would probably be my stomach.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Interesting well, for that, I would recommend some sort of
ultrasound treatment like a HYPHO that's a bit more hardcore
than radio frequency, so RF micro and needling more for
your eight homage that's like radiofrequency, you'd.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Probably start there.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Then you've got your ultrasound therapies like your high food
that works deeper than radio frequencies. And then lastly, but
if you really care, a lot of people do this
to their face and neck. Is like the laser skin tightening,
so fractional, the hectic, the heck throa off your whole thing.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Also, can you imagine how much that would be on
body parts though it's so expensive on your face.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Oh my gosh, I agree, But also your whole face
tools up. You can't even really see or eat. So
if you really hated your tummy, for example, I don't
know if they can even do it on there, but
at least you could like go.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Hours in an hour. I think I'd actually rather get
a mini facelift than that. Oh see, I'm considering CO two. Really.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, maybe not now because I've had friends doing winter,
but because I don't get anti wrinkle. Because it's good
for pigmentation, it's good for timing, it's good for everything
anyway down the track. So you've got radio frequency, ultrasound
or lasers, but go to a reputable place, talk to them,
don't make the decision on the swat and have it done.
Don't go for a discount pack. Really do you research
if you want to do anyways, Amy has sent to
(16:44):
us as steamy dear, holding that quite far away, you're
starting to need glasses. No, it's because the mic was
in the way high ladies literally halfway through a shower
and thought of a question I had to ask immediately.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Do I think she stopped the shower and typed it.
I do, because that's what I would do if I
had a thought that I really didn't want to lose.
I just get my phone in there, I say hey Siri,
and then I text myself, yeah, you're smart, though I
don't ever think to I saw someone using Syria the
other day.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I use the actually everything, but then I swear to
it her when she gets wrong. Oh that's not anyway,
poor Amy, She's turned the shower off.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Do I need to remove my makeup before I exfoliate
my face? I usually only wear sunscreen and a light
layer of it cosmetic CC, and I've always cleansed with
my cellar water before exfoliation. I use a gentle chemical exfoliator,
by the way, and I almost always exfoliate my face
in the shower. That's the pause and immediate messaging, and
then cleanse with a face wash afterwards to rinse off
(17:39):
any lingering exfoliant. I can be a bit of a
lazy girl. So it occurred to me, after forty years
on this planet, that I could have been saving time
and skipping the first cleanse. I mean, chemical exfoliator is
just going to take that off, right.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But wait, there's more this question So that's now this
is Kelly speaking.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, so that was the end of Amy's DM. But
then Kelly speaking, But wait, there's more. This question prompted
you beauty producer Sophie to ask her, I want to
the box off. She made her remember something she's been
meaning to ask us for ages. Sophie, I read an
article last night that said that you shouldn't cleanse your
face in the shower. What tell me if that's true
(18:18):
and why? Okay, great questions, Sophie and Amy. We're all
in the shower.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, Amy, I love your immediacy and curiosity. Look, short
answer is, yeah, you do. You do need to take
off your makeup and your skincare before you get in
the shower. Makeup, skincare, sunscreen, and definitely before you chemical exfoliate.
You say, do I need to remove my makeup before
I exfoliate my face? Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:42):
My gosh.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes, okay, so exfoliation is not removal. Your removal is
to take off debris, sunscreen, makeup. Exfoliation is there to
munch at the skin. Its job is not to munch
at makeup and sunscreen. It doesn't know how to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's like great analogy.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, it's like trying to feed Carely a remote control.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
She can't eat that. She can eat, she explained, she
can eat, you know, food, but not a remote control. Soo,
do you know what I mean? Brain today?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well, this just blew my mind and then I have
to ask her a question. She's not here though, but yes,
what ideally we want to do is cleanse before the shower.
So what I do is, because I also am a
lazy girl, is I start my oil or balm cleanser
out of the shower.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I've turned the shower on. Should should? She should?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Then I get in the shower and then I emulsify
and remove. Then I do a gentle second cleanse in
the shower cream cleanser or milk or whatever. But Amy,
you really shouldn't be I mean, the police won't come,
but you really shouldn't be using a chemical exfolient in
the shower.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I don't know really no.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I mean maybe she's just standing there, but the water's
not on because what it's gonna do, it's gonna dilute
the product. The product isn't actually gonna work like the
water turns it off and it can definitely cause irritation.
So no water and chemical exfoliants together, like definitely not
your Paula's choice.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
BHA.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
There's some body products that are made for the shower
that have chemical exfolient in it. That's different because they're
formulated that way. It's also in your body, not yeah,
but it's formulated to be wet with other stuff. So
if we're talking just let's use Fuller's choice as an example.
That needs to go on fresh skin that's not wet,
so please don't do that. So she's talking about a
physical exfoliant, though, like say the gemological chemical, I use
(20:17):
a gentle chemical exfoliator. Firstly, your chemical exfoliator is not
a cleanser, and your chemical exfoliator is not allowed in
the shower.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I'm sorry. I mean, do what you want. I mean,
if someone's listening though, and they do use a physical exfoliator.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Totally, oh my gosh, that's fine. Sometimes if I'm going
to do that after I've done my second cleanse, I
just have mine, which is a bit it's got a
bit gross, but like my dermologic and microfoliant just kind
of out there. I kind of dry my hands a bit,
put a bit on, and then just drop a few
bits of water and make that muddy kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I do that in there. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But yeah, chemical exfoliance will be turned off by the water,
but be diluted and it could really cause irritation. You
don't want to do that now, Hi, sofam point looking
at sofa, this is all really interesting and related. Technically,
you shouldn't well, It depends on how you shower, but
technically you shouldn't cleanse your face in the shower.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
A lot of the skincare xp say that you should.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I do too, and I always I do the first.
I do my oil cleans in the shower too.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The reason that they say you shouldn't, there's a couple
of reasons, but the main one is is that your
water is generally way too hot a shower because you
only want luke or water for your face, and then
it's going to be causing a lot of damage. It
can break capillories, it just it just deteriorates the barrier exactly.
So that's why they say don't cleanse.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So because people might cleanse and then go like that,
like pummeling water on your face.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, not, don't do that. I don't have a hot shower.
Oh my god, I have.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Burning I hate. But I don't cleanse in my morning shower.
If I'm just like doing a rinse, it's quite lukewarm.
And I might do a gentle cleans if I have
at my salad, but at night I do it all
at the basin.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, I think that if you're having really hot showers
and you put, you're the type of person that would
put I don't often wash my hair in the shower.
I don't often ever wash my hair, like say, I
wash my hair like separately where in the shower, but
not while I'm having a shower.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Okay, it's like I get it. You kind of section
it off as a.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Separate step, like I've got one of the things that
comes off it, Yeah, the head, Yes, and I put
my head over the bath part of the shower and
do It's actually also a really good point.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It depends what allder you do it, because if you're
washing your hair, the residu you will go on your
face and that's not good, Like do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, it's also not something you can really help though if.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You're but that's why the order, like you should wash
your hair first and if you're going to cleanse in
the shower last, so maybe turn it down to lukewarm
and then in the shower.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It just depends how you do it, Like, yeah, I
can cleanse in the shower because I don't wash my hair,
so I'm never putting my whole head under the streaming
water and it's not that hot. I always have lukewarm shower.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah. And one point, I guess one more to make is,
which is so counterintuitive, but too much water really dries
your skin out. So if you're in the shower for
a long time, well even any water, yeah, it just
zaps all the moistow.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I think about when you're on holidays, if you're in
the ocean every single.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Day, think about when you go puni in the bath
your skin has is like literally had all the moist
just sucked out it or filled up anyway. So look, Amy,
you're doing everything wrong, but we love you.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't care. But it's beauty. Like if it's not
exactly skin likes to go for it. I break the
rules all the time. All right, beauty. Bye of the week.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
We've both got show and tell. Kelly mccaren, I've been
talking a lot, so oh want you to show me.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's silly season. There's a lot of Kelly season.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
There's a lot of parties and soirees and such a
for me, but keep going for a lot of even
think about family, christmasciety. A lot of people might be
more interested than normal to delve into the world of
a false eyelab. Absolutely now is the time but a
lot of people find them very hard to apply. So
this is just a very really the ones you've brought
(24:01):
the Well, this is why my tip is when you're
actually in the shops looking, I want you to have
a look for specific types. So I've got two different
types here to show you. So this is you definitely
have to go over to YouTube to have a look
at what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So here is one lash. They're very hard to show,
aren't they. This is one strip lash. It is a mustache.
It's ginormous. But this is what a lot of them
actually look like in the packet. But it's a really
thick strip lash, and so what that means, and yes,
you can still cut it down. Sometimes people are like, oh,
(24:39):
but I cut them down anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Like half, Well, when you pull something that is this
thick out of the packet, you're going to see how
hard it is to manipulate. The band. The band is
the part on the bottom that all of the hairs
are stuck into that then you would stick on top
(25:00):
of your natural lash. And because it's holding so much hair,
this band is really thick and it's really hard to manipulate.
So it's going to make it harder to stick it
onto your natural lash in a natural easy way.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, it's almost like wiry, it's exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yes, they are.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, and it's very obvious, so if you get it wrong,
you can't really fix it exactly, and then you create
flash lesson and then.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You've got a really just obvious black. Yeah, it looks
like you've done in the wrong spot exactly on your eye.
I'm going to pick up another one, also very fluffy.
Who use that I have? It's kind of disgusting. It's okay,
I read lash just so expensive. They really are. But
as you can see with this band, the band is
(25:46):
basically non existent because the hairs just are a lot
more fluffier and sparser, and it's not, of course, it's
not going to create the sort of impact that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
May from here. Is that what they call an invisible band?
It's almost like fishing wire or is there? Is it
black a bit?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It is black a little bit, and it's just got
a bit of glue water, which is sort of so
you still would need to like, you still need to
stick it on and everything, but this you could literally
do it in or not. It is so easy to
manipulate and move and shape to the contour of your
specific eye shape.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Everyone needs to watch this on YouTube. Yeah, it makes
feel fascinating lesson.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's very hard to explain, but when you're shopping for
fake lashes, have a look at the band. We want
to look for thin, almost nonexistent looking bands.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I always go for what they call invisible, so they
kind of is a clear it's a fishing line, but
it's that kind of vibe.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
They're so much easier to apply because they're so much
easier to manipulate to the shape of your eye. I agree, Yeah,
you're just going to have a lot more success. So
that's my tip when shopping for a fake eyelash to
look at the band.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yes, and like, if you're going for address up, that
first one's great. My beauty butt is also show and tell.
It's well loved. This is also my second one. Lucky,
I've bought twelve. I'm what twelve well as gifts. I'm
a very proud and bassador for Good Feel Better, which
is an organization that raises money for people going through
cancer treatment. It receives no government funding, so it's all
on ambassadors like me to help raise money.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And just the good people like you.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Every year they do a Christmas bond bond and you
buy it and all the money goes to the charity.
They couldn't fit all the products in the bonbon this year,
so they've done a Christmas box. So for twenty five
dollars you order this perfect KK gift. I bought all
of them for their school teachers and stuff. My first
one Alexander opened, and then this one well you know life,
(27:39):
but the restill looked like I did, I think, so
for twenty five dollars and again you can have a
look at this on YouTube. You get over one hundred
dollars worth of products.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I know, it's so good. So there's products like and
all these.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Brands donate to look good for better their products to
then put them in the than the money. The twenty
five dollars goes to the charity, absolutely, and the charity
is straight to you know, it's not a lot of
red tape goes trust me, it goes straight there. So
there's brands like a Van birdbed o'claren. Yeah, I'm going
to have sure that's alex had to open the first
one because I need to know what I'm giving the teachers,
(28:13):
Clarence go to skincare, So there's a mixture of premium
samples and big products and one hundred percent of proceeds
go to Look Good, Feel Better, supporting free access to
Confidence Mystic workshops in person and online for anyone in
Australia going through cancer treatment. So I've already ordered mine.
Yours will not come crushed like this. But this is
a great teachers gift or KK. But also if you're
just doing like little stocking stuffers, or you're having like
(28:34):
a lunch or something, you can just open it up
and split it up.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
They're all a bit different, so in there, they've all
got different stuff in there. Yeah, they've all got a
bit of a different stuff. So oh glam Lash Kelly
could tell us about the band, the Loxatan arm and
shower oil. I won't show you all, but they're honestly incredible.
Clarence Vita Glow. I need that today, Nivea. Look, there's
(28:59):
just so many great things. So for twenty five fantastic
one hundred percent of that money is going to charity.
You're getting over one hundred dollars worth of products yourself
or your friend. It comes in a beautiful box. You
don't even have to like do anything. But yeah, so
sorry to use my platform to plug my charity, but
that's what I'm here.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
If you're an awful person, how very dare you plug
a chain?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
How dare I give the UBIS a box full of
products and a charity donation? Know?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So that was my show and tell. That's fantastic. Yeah,
well that's all we have in store for you today.
But I'll be back in your eyes and ears tomorrow.
Oh yes, I love Tuesday. Yes with a fabulous guest
on the form and O my goodness.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I can't beat Abby Chatfield. That was my favorite episode
of all time. I felt like you'd known each other forever. Anyway,
we've known each other forever.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
We've got to go.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Thank you so much for joining us on you beauty.
If you're not watching on YouTube, how about we tell
you for the one hundredth time talks on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Gone subscribe?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, like and subscribe if you're listening, Thank you so
much and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Bye,
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