Bailey Peyton (@TheBaileyP) - Meeting Her Husband, Motherhood and Loving Your Body

Join Brooke Taylor (@Brookeradio) and Bailey Scaman (@TheBaileyP) as they talk through the ups and downs of motherhood, loving your body and how Bailey met her sweet husband Sam.

Episode Transcript

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Backstage. Welcome to the backstage withBrook. You're all access past to music
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We're backstage, y'all. Welcome tothe show today. Bailey. Oh,
I'm so excited that we're doing this. I am so excited to be
here. It's I was just thinkingto myself, like looking across it,

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you here, like it's just likebeing with the bestie, and I love
it so much. And what's funnyis we actually met in Memphis. Yeah,
we were at the Saint Jude kindof like retreat situation, and you
were hanging out with Megan and Liz, and like, I feel like we
were like instant best friends. Youare like, wait, okay, followed
on Instagram, let's take out,let's eat well. And I remember that

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moment Liz being like, have youmet Brook. I'm like no, but
I took it like one glance atyou. I was like, I feel
like we just had connection immediately.And then I remember you were like getting
an elevator. I was like,let's follow each other, and by like
the end of that night, wehad exchanged numbers. It was just automatic,
literally, And I mean, youjust had a sweet little baby before
we talk about a little Beckett.He is seriously so cute first and foremost.

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But our friendship is very like Instagram, like we talk moms stuff and
things. But I don't know,like your story and like where you come
from, like how you and yourhusband met, Like let's start at the
very beginning, like pre influence orlife, Like tell me about your life,
how you grew up, like whatyou're what, what's what's Bailey's life?
Absolutely no, I love that andit's not something I get to talk

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about as frequently now. So.Um So, I'm originally Eve from Denver,
Colorado. Weren't I raised? Um? I come from a family four,
I have an older brother and lovedgrowing up in Denver, Like loved
the mountain, the mountains, thefresh air. It was just such a
beautiful place to grow up. Um. But I actually spent most of my
life and career in musical theater.So a lot of people know that I

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or a lot of people don't knowthat I grew up singing. Um,
I had no idea. Fun facts, that's amazing. Do you still like
to sing at all? I do? I love to and a lot of
the time when I do like alittle sna it or something on Instagram,
like people, I was like,why don't you sing more? I'm here,
And I think sometimes it's just hardfor me to um kind of connect
the two now because I like wentfrom musical theater to and performing to modeling

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and content creation and it's just kindof this weird bridge, I guess,
And now, of course add motherhoodin and it's like, you know,
the thought of like performing is sofar gone for me. But sometimes that
makes me sad. But yeah,in curvy girl fashion, of course,
my dream, like all of mylife, was to play Tracy and Hairspray.
I'm obsessed and I got to doit three different times and that was
like the dream of my life andtruly one of the best memories I have

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of all time. And my husbanddidn't get to see me performing it,
and that's like my one thing ofwhat I'd love to get back on stage
is I'd really love for him tobe able to see me on stage one
day. I thought would be sosweet. Yeah, but uh yeah,
So I grew up in Colorado,performed my whole life, and my husband
I actually met on Okay Cupid whenI'm still living in it's like somebody it's

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like, oh we met at church, Oh we went at the bar.
Oh we met on you know whateverdating app. But okay, Cupid is
the first for me. I excited. I know, and so many people,
especially like in so we live inRodondo Beach, California now, and
so many people in LA when theyhear that are like, okay, so
you guys weren't on dating sites inLA though, And I'm like no,
because it's a whole different scene outthere. Like I literally run into people
all the time. They're like,there's no way you did that out here

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because it's just so different or isin Colorado, Like it was just different.
I don't know how to explain it, but you know, we're genuine
and yeah please, he's pleasy.It was a different scene. Yeah.
Well, and I feel like theywanted at least don't keep it. I
found like most people actually wanted likea relationship, which obviously I was looking
for at the time. Um butyeah, fun fact. Also, I

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was actually previously engaged prior to myhusband, something that I didn't talk about
for a long time. Um,but yeah, you know, I was
young, got engaged to like amilitary man who ended up cheating on me
for like the entirety of our relationship, and that actually taught me, you
know a lot. Priority meeting Sam, thank goodness. Yea time he and
I met, I was it wasvery clear picture of like what I did
and did not want. I wasjust going to say, let's pause there,

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because I feel like when it comesto relationships and like that hurt,
like that ugly stuff, people don'tlike talking about that because they're like,
well, it's not you know,people don't want to hear about it,
especially like social media and things likethat. Everybody wants to see the pretty
perfect stuff, right, And Ithink what you do such a good job
at is not only showing like thejoys of motherhood, but you show the

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hardships of motherhood. And you're veryhonest about that. You're honest about like
body image and you know, justbeing real. And I love that you
brought up that you were engaged beforebecause it's like those heartbreaks and those failures
and those things, like you said, they teach you what you want in
life. And it's so important tohave those mistakes and not dwell on them,
but take them and like learn fromthem. Right when I feel like

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they we live in a world nowwhere a lot of people feel like embarrassed
and ashamed to talk about those things, and we shouldn't be now, you
know, like it doesn't make meless of a wife and a partner now
because I was previously engaged, it'sto someone else. It actually makes me
a lot more sure in who Iam and what I want out of relationship
and how hard I want to workin our marriage, and how grateful I
am for the person that Sam is. And yeah, I went on like

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four or five dates with guys onOkay Cupid. They were like they weren't
terrible, but they were just inthat middle ground, like there was no
connection. And then Sam and Iis a'll dealt a little bit in a
Sam and I story because it's reallycool. So Sam and I started talking
and okay Cupid, what was hislike profile? Do you remember like the
picture where you're like, okay,I do I remember? Like the photo
was something you know, something Denver. So I was like really attracted to

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that because we were both of coursefrom the same place, right, and
I just he had a very likea welcoming feel about him even from the
photo, and like just the wayhe wrote, I could tell he was
like very well spoken, and Ireally loved that because I felt like a
lot of the days I gone on, like conversation was a hardship. It's
like, was there anything yeah,yeah, yeah, right, are you

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a favorite thing on the data?Hey? Like that boon people would say,
hey, as the intro on thedating map. I'm like, okay,
so you clearly have a lot goingon, Like that is how you
want to make a mega first intro. Hi, my name is so,
and so what's your name? Howare you today? You know, easy,
it seems simple. But yeah,so Sam, there was a thing
on okay Cupid. It's kind ofa cross between like it was a middle

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ground, like not full on likee harmony situation, but not like tender.
Yeah. And so there was thisone section that said like the five
things that you couldn't live without,and Sam's were like Broncos, which,
of course being for Denver. Iwas like, yesco Broncos. It was
like breakfast burritos, beer, snowand something else or whatever. And I
was just like, literally, thatwas exactly what I said, And breakfast

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burritos are my favorite thing on theplanet. So I remember like I messaged
him first, Lady, sometimes yougot to take the step girls, you
know what, like just get itdone, Sonya said it, let's go,
let's do it exactly. So yeah, I messaged him first, and
I think I said something super cheesylike I really love your five things about
you. It's better than hey,right exactly whose progress? But yeah,

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so we started taking about breakfast readersand all this stuff, and then he
asked me out. Finally we chattedfor like two weeks, and he asked
me to like this. It waslike a free soccer event or something going
on, like total dude, like, I'm not sure if I want to
spend money up as exactly that.And I actually kind of like unintentionally ghosted

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him, like we'd been talking fortwo weeks and I was very much interested,
but I was traveling the next dayand I had kind of gotten sick
over the weekend. Like this wasa genuine story, even though he literally
expact, It's like you totally justghosted me for two days. It was
like this is not it, LikeI'm sick. Okay, I was sick,
and I was actually my mom's aflight attendant, so I was going
and my brother was working on There'sso many random facts in the story.
My brother was working in Toronto andDisney Cruise Line at the time, and

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so I went in. I wasgoing on a trip with my mom,
hopping on a flight with her toRome, and then I was going to
Toronto to visit my brother, andso I like tell him this, I'm
like, yeah, I actually livetown tomorrow, I'll be back in a
week. So we like talk thewhole time I'm in Rome. I'm like
sending him photos and it kind offelt like we were already dating, even
though we hadn't met yet. Itwas I don't know how to explain that,
but but it's such a cool whenyou when you're like souls connect on

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that level to where you're like,Okay, this is easy. It's not
hard. No, it was,And it was that way from the start,
Like our communication was just so seamless, and it still is to this
day. Obviously it's bloomed even more. But U So, yeah, we
had one night because Sam is apilot, so we had one night in
between when I was coming back andhe was leaving on a trip. And
this is such a testament to ourlife now of just like we're always in

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the go, we're always traveling.So he had one night and I was
coming in and then he would leavethe next day. So we planned a
date night and I was fine onmy mom's airline benefits, and like the
panem Games were happening in Canada,and so I ended up like not being
able to get back because the flight'sgot like weight restricted, so we were
really bommed. I ended up havingto stay in Canada, and so I

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presented this is an option. Iwas like, well, it's not a
dream, like you're I'm going tocome in a day late, which means
you're leaving them one night. Wouldyou want to come to the airport like
two hours early and we can atleast like have dinner meet because at this
point, I was like, weneed to just figure out if this is
actually a thing in real life,because otherwise, like both of us need
to move on, right. Sowe met at the airport, like total
movie moment at Gate B thirty eightin Denver International Way and speaking of like

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dudes not wanting to pay until theyknow it's worth it. Um. He
literally I was like, can wego to always like this is like this
nice steakhouse in DA and he's like, yeah, how about like Route Down,
which is also a really good restaurant, but like not like I was
shooting for the stars. Yeah,like yeah exactly. And I was like,
okay, I can respect that,you know. Um that's but yeah.

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So we met and uh, youknow, it was automatic, and
then we had dinner and by thetime I walked him to his gate and
I was like, pienism kissed mebefore I leave here, that'll be really
just funny. Of course he did, let's go. Yeah, and he
even, um, even I almostI was this close. He was like,
you know, you have benefits,Like do you just want to do
you want to have him on thislike true with me? And I almost
was like, you know, yeah, I could do that. I could

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do that, but I just Ihad been so burned my past that I
was like I'm gonna I'm gonna takethis beat. But basically he got back
from that trip and we were likeinseparable. That is such a sweet story.
I love how you guys kind ofhad that connection before you actually like
you know, had that step oflike meeting each other. Because I feel
like my husband Andrew and I haveto kind of like a similar experience,

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but ours was like very distant.So like, okay, we The building
I worked at in Chicago is thisbig skyrise like on Michigan Avenue, right,
and there's like in the in thelike main floor, there's like all
these restaurants, there's shops like thingslike that. So he worked at a
GNC down there. Like when Ifirst caved to Chicago, he did not
know who I was. I didnot know who he was, And it
was just like after we had metand we met at church, so like

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after we had met and after wehad like spent time together, he was
like, wait, you were here. I worked there. Like our souls
met before we did. And it'sjust like such a weird thing where it's
like I think those soul connections arejust so real, And I love that
you guys had that, maybe nota soul connection, but like you guys
had like a very emotional connection beforeactually seeing each other totally being physical like

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that is just such a sweet story. Thank you well. And we had
chatted a lot, like I feellike that creating that foundation like you're talking
about is so important and it's alot of what's like created such a beautiful
marriage for us to this day andthat, I mean, we're in the
home of country music, so Ialso have to share this really fun moment.
So when we did finally meet,we were actually this was technically before
we met that we had this conversation. But you know, at one point

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when we were still talking in theapp, we hadn't even exchange phone numbers
yet. He was like, whatdid you do this weekend? I said,
Oh, I went to like DariusRucker at Fiddler's Green and he was
like, oh, I was atDarius Rucker at Fiddler's Green on Saturday night,
no joke. We ended up sharingvideos from that. Like when we
actually met, we were like maybetwenty feet away from each other. Way

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yes, and Sam was a chill, um, oh my god. And
Sam was like, we probably inthe same beer line. And this was
before, like we had been talkingbefore we met, and I just look
back at that moment, I'm like, dang, Like I remember listening to
um, you know, history inthe making that thinking like, oh man,
what a beautiful like story that wouldbe when I find my person.
And then of course we ended uphaving that song soul connection before you guys

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actually meet I'm telling you there arereal things, and it's so funny.
I'm like my girlfriends that are allsingle, I'll be like, you never
know, maybe maybe your soul's alreadymet your husband, Like you never know,
you really just never do. Gosh. I love love, and I
love just a little like tidbits ofyour relationship. And how like your mom
is the flight attendant, he isa pilot. You're already in that world.

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Because like, traveling on those benefitsis such a like it can be
such a blessing. And also it'ssuch a like waiting game because I have
friends that do it and they endedup sleeping in JFK last night because their
flight got rerouted and I couldn't geton the next one yet. And it's
just like, it's so cool thatyou guys have that like little internal connection
with like with within everything too.That's just so cool. I would say

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that was one of Sam's favorite thingsabout me initially was that I like understood
all of the airplane lingo and everything. So I'm like, I've grown up
with the mom as a play atennant, Like I get it. I
know what standby travel is a nonrevenue travel and what it's like to like
be able to hop around of benefitsbut also knowing that you might get stuck
in airports and like we always havea backup plan with that. I've gone
to like Ireland with him, andI remember, like, you know,

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he was physically flying, so likehe's going to go regardless, and we
would always be like, Okay,like if I don't make it on this
flight, like you know, I'vegot credit cards, I'll book a hotel
and so you tomorrow. Yeah.Totally, that's like the life we live,
which is just so awesome. Okay, tell me how you got into
content creation influencing, Like what whatopened this store for you or how did
that like organically start for you?Absolutely so, um, just another piece

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of kind of like my growing upand backstory. I was always a bigger
girl, and I carried a lotof that i'll use weight for lack of
a better term, totally with mebecause I didn't have people to look up
to. I really struggled with thatand it was a pretty defining moment of
my childhood and my teens. Andum, a lot of the relationship actually

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with the guy I was previously engagedto was definitely now that I look back
on it, I was very muchlike seeking worth and seeking independence and confidence
in all of these things that Ididn't realize at the time because I was
twenty. Um, that could befound in myself, but I was seeking
them and other people and that validationexternally. Um. And so when we

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moved to LA almost eight years ago, I was actually looking to like stay
in music. I wanted to kindof songwrite and just like maybe do background
vocals and um, kind of godown that path what you could do if
you moved on. I know howmany times a day did I talked with
all of my friends here route inNashville, Delta, if you could open

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a base in Nashville for my husband, that would be great, Thank you,
Executive, Yes please, Okay,UM, we we'll be checking you
in comment stell them. So Ithat was the plan. I had,
like a couple of things lined up, was very ready, and Sam could
be based in LA. So itwas like a perfect move for us.

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And we ended up actually getting ina really bad car accident on our way
to LA something a lot of peoplealso don't know. We it was a
really bad like rollover, like tenmiles outside of Vegas, literally on our
way to LA, like all ofour moving stuff was in the car,
So it ended up changing my trajectorypretty drastically. I am really grateful for

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the fact that A we're both alive, but B Sam I ended up with
like a head injury and back andneck problems. And Sam thankfully like he
wouldn't be able to fly had helike ended up with a head injury.
So really grateful for that, butit ended up putting me out of like
I had to cancel basically everything Ihad lined up. I was out of
work for a year, and frankly, I spent a year feeling just like
really sorry for myself. And thatwas kind of the turning point for me

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after the solid year of feeling storry. Yeah was I remember like sitting at
our apartment one day just being like, I have not felt like myself any
year. Yep. I my bodyhad changed so much because I like wasn't
able to move my body, Iyou know, And this was that like
the peak of when I just feltso insecure about myself. Yeah. Um,
And so I remember sitting just inmy apartm one day and I was

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thinking about how so many people hadtold me my entire life, like,
you have such a pretty face,you should go into like modeling. But
nobody had ever told me like,oh you how you have the body for
that? Right? Always just alwaysjust a pretty face, you know,
I know you can relate to that. It's like so frustrating everyone like do
you have a face for radio?You should do And I'm just like,
dude, what back? Yes,Like people think that's a compliment, but

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I'm also like, okay, butyou wouldn't say that to like a skinny
girl. But it's also like,hey, you know what, you're freaking
beautiful. How about that? Yeah, you have a pretty face? Can
we drop that term? Um?And so I just started shooting my shot
and applying to a bunch of plussized modeling agencies because it was it was
right at the peak of kind ofwhen Ashley Graham was really like making yes
like a stand and um. Andso I ended up signing with an agency

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out in LA and July twenty eighteen, and that kind of kicked things off
for me. Yeah, started I'vebeen in the plus size modeling industry,
which I at this point really justlike, say, the modeling industry,
yeah, because it sizes who cares? Sizes. The size, it's just
how people are, like, don'tlook at the scale, It's just like
who cares about this? Like Ibooks a modeling gig. That's that,
you know. So and then thatkind of took me. You know,

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I think we've seen the modeling andlike creation content creation worlds merged a lot
over the last few years because youknow, brands and people are realizing,
like we can I can shoot acampaign for tourid at home or in the
city or you know, they don'thave to necessarily book you to come in
now, right, So that waskind of how those worlds merged for me.
I kind of started just sharing mystory a lot more of you know,

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how I came out of the accidentand ended up signing, And you
know that changed my own world ofconfidence too, because I realized, like,
damn, I am meant to bein front of the camera and I'm
good at this and I feel great, and um that honestly, I started
with Instagram is kind of just likean open journal for myself, like just
and this was back when like peopleread captions a lot more about I still

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post all that stuff because it mattersto me, and you know, yeah,
I just used it as an openjournal of like here's my story and
here's my journey and here's how it'sgoing. And through just kind of being
seen in more ads and then sharingthat, like I started to gain a
following, and my community is justthis beautiful like tapestry at this point of
like women who have from all ofthe world. In fact, we were

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at Bar Taco last night, shoutout to Jenny who like recognized my husband.
I was in the car with thebaby and she was like, you're
Sam, I follow baby. Andthose moments are just my favorite because I
in fact like Jenny come up andsee me next time, because then she
didn't want to interrupt our little familydinner so she didn't say hi, but
Jenny, come on, all right, But it just makes my day,

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Like that's the joy of what Iget to do, is connecting with women
all around the world like I haveor in different countries, and it's just
it's the joy of my life whenI get a message that says, you
know, I like try to astropless wedding dress because of you, or
I or a bikini for the firsttime because of you, And like now
it's been really cool for me tosee. I didn't know how it was
going to go, the transition fromlike sharing what I do in the body

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positive and confident world to motherhood,and it's actually been really cool to see
this. Particular Gal last night mentionedthat to me over message is that she
was like, it's one thing howyou inspired me like in my body the
last few years, but now you'reinspiring me like in motherhood. And to
just hear that is everything. LikeI created that space to make like one
person feel less alone, and thefact that I've touched more than that is

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really special and I feel like it'sone of those things that you'll be able
to carry with you forever, becauseit truly is such a like special thing
when you get a message from acomplete stranger that says you helped me do
this or you've inspired me to dothis or whatever it is, and it's
just like those moments and those sociallike connections I think are so so cool.

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And I love that you're in MusicCity, You're you're hanging out visiting
for your birthday week and somebody isjust like, wait, I know that
guy, that's Bailey's husband. That'sjust such a cool thing, you know,
I know, I still we're stillwaiting for someone to recognize him like
on a plant, Like I'm hopingsomeone in my community flies with him one
day. Yeah, that would beso much fun. Like hey, Sam

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side well and I love it peoplehave gotten to know him too, Like
that's really important for me, islike sharing that like family unit. You
know, Sam is a huge partof both my business and obviously my personal
life and now back it and it'sjust it's it's a really cool dynamic.
Well and I love this whole storytoo because my like body positive journey is
so it's I feel like it's akind of unique one. I grew up

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a student athlete. I played volleyballmy whole life. I was always in
shape. I was aside like eightten my whole life. And then you
know, growing up, like youstart learning that you can drink and you
can have a little bit fun andyou have a little bit of you know,
a little bit of all the funthings. And so I think,
you know, I was around itlike a ten twelve was just like my
normal like weight. And then whenI got pregnant with Emma, I literally

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had a really hard pregnancy, likeI was, I had really bad edema,
I blew up. I was alwaysalways just like swollen. I was
holding lots of water weight and Igot huge, like my stomach. Everybody
I would literally walk anywhere, areyou having twins? And I'm like,
dude, Okay, first of all, it's it's already uncomfortable and I'm being

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pregnant, but like stop asking.I know, I know, I'm I
see myself every day. I knowthat I'm large. Okay, thank you.
I wake up with this feeling everymoore. Yes. And then you
know, it's like postpartum. Ihad an emergency c section, so that
the recovery of that and just kindof like the traumatic part of dealing with
you know, you're you carry ababy for nine months and then you get
into the hospital and you know youI'm gonna have a baby and then I'm

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gonna go home in a couple ofdays. And it was just like ripped
out of me. Or basically,I had a reaction to the epidural and
I started shaking. I got areally bad fever. They didn't want me
to pass it along to the baby, so they're like, we need to
get her out. So literally nineteenminutes later, they wheel me into the
R Yeah, baby, everything's goinggreat whatever. And then the room's quiet,

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and I'm just like something's wrong.And Andrew's like she's fine, everything's
okay, and like he just seesher, sees them like this on her
back, like trying to get herto like breathe, and so she had
like breathing trouble. So she wasstraight to the niku and she was in
the nicku for three days. Andit's just like the emotional I don't know,
it was just a very traumatic experienceto where I my brain shut down.

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Like I was just like in likefight or flight mode. I didn't
want to do anything but be withmy kid. I didn't care about going
outside, I didn't care about doinganything. I literally just wanted to be
with my kid. And I evencontemplated, like I mean, I haven't
really shared a lot about that thisstory, but like I contemplating not going
back to work because I was justlike I don't know if I want to
do this anymore. And having thatand then just the emotional trauma that comes

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from that, and then also likemotherhood is hard. They like you get
a baby and they're like figure itout, Yeah, there you go.
And I mean you know this becauseyou just went through this recently. But
it's like you're bringing tears to myeye. You have to figure things out
for yourself, you know. Andit's just like my body changed, and
I'm okay with my body. Butit's like everybody has something to say about

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bodies, right, and so goingfrom like a size ten to a size
fourteen sixteen is not a huge jumpat all, but going from the whole
like mid size quote unquote to plussize or whatever, everybody has something to
say about it. And the thingthat I've just like learned and been like
so empathetic with is just like whyare plus size closed so ugly? You

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know what I mean? Like recentlyeverything is like very inclusive and everybody tries
to do you know, everything,you know what I mean. And I
was like, this is not okay, Like this is not okay, like
being on the other side, Iguess, you know, like the the
quote unquote smaller size to like nowbeing a plus size girl, mid sized,
plus size, whatever you want tocall it. It's like, why

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why are the lines so different?Right? It makes me, It makes
my blood boil. It makes meso angry. And to know that people
have been dealing with this their wholelife. I'm like, why is this
the thing? Why is this?Yeah? Wellhy is this? Okay?
I remember walking into like American Eaglewith like friends when I was in eighth
grade, and like, you know, that was the thing to do.
You'd like go to them all withfriends and people, you know, you

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try and close or whatever shoot theship. Like, um, and I
would never be able to try onanything because nothing ever fit me, and
like I wasn't that big. Iwas like a size twelve, you know,
and like it shouldn't have been athing where I couldn't find something that
fit me and I had to beembarrassed around my friends. Ye, so
I feel that to my core,and honestly the fact that we've moved out

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of I've always been a ya wholike despite my size, and it shouldn't
be despite my size. It's justhow I feel best in my body.
Um who loves I love like bodycon dresses fitted, Yeah, Like I
love low cut things. And forthe longest time, it was like,
oh, we just assume that,like if you live in a bigger body,
all you want to wear is likeboxy T shirts and oversized clothing and

(25:17):
It's so funny because I mentally wentthrough that, like after having Emma and
like going through I had really badpostpartum depression. I was on medicine for
it, and I went through thislike I want to wear a two XL
shirt with like sweatpants, like Idon't want anybody to see my body,
and it would go. I meanit was like six seven, eight months,

(25:40):
and I remember the first time Iput on like a pair of like
jeans and something that fit me,Andrews like, baby, you look good,
and I'm like you, yeah,you know what I mean. And
it's just like why why do wewhy do we subject ourselves to that where
we're just like let me just hideit under all these huge clothes. And
it's just like I don't need wearthe body suit where the bikini where the
body contress, because not everybody hasa tiny, perfect little body, and

(26:06):
your body is perfect how it is. If you're comfortable in it, then
who else scares? Which I lovehearing that story as you're in this Body
Sue today because like when I sawyou and then I was like, okay,
Body Sue engeans, she's slaying,She's playing so funny. I just
yeah, the whole body body positivitylike thing was something that I never understood
until now. And I mean I'mthirty five, so it's just like,

(26:26):
it took me how long to realizethat there is an issue and the fact
that you have been such a championfor that for so many other people that
I know, even from the messagesthat you're just explaining like you're helping people,
You're changing people's lives, and Ifeel like the narrative is slowly but
sure surely being changed. It is, Yeah, we're getting there. Like

(26:48):
I always I always used to saythat the day that I don't have a
job essentially is like the day Iknow that I've done the work, yes,
because like obviously I would love tokeep doing forever. Yeah, But
honestly, the day where I don'thave to talk about my body is how
I know that we've done enough ifyou will. But well, and it's
funny because this, this actually literallyhappened this morning. I was in the

(27:11):
kitchen helping my husband make breakfast forEmma, and I was just like,
so I had to block somebody onInstagram today and he was just like,
what happened? And I was like, there's this gentleman who literally has nothing,
has done nothing but comment on likewhat I look like. So if
I post a workout video, he'llbe like, oh, look how great
your legs work? Or look howgood? Like great your legs look sure?

(27:32):
Or you know, oh that looksthat looks good on you, or
maybe you should try not eating thatbread and your body would go back to
how it was and stuff like that. And I had posted a workout video
like sometime last week, and soI was just like scrolling through unread messages
and I come up across this onewhere he had responded to one of my
workout videos. And I don't postthose to like glorify what I look like.

(27:53):
I'm just like somebody else. Ijust you just do it, and
it's just like it's a journey I'mon, and I like to help other
people along with whatever journey they're strugglingwith. So and he goes, all
of these workouts that you're doing meannothing. If you're gonna if you're going
to continue to eat like crap,your body's not changing and you're not helping
yourself. And I literally was Iwrote back this huge, long message and

(28:17):
then I deleted all of it.And I just blocked him. I was
like, you literally do not deservea second of my time time, yes,
and it's just like, what doesthat? What does that? I
don't know you, sir. Okay, you follow me on Instagram and that's
fine. We could be a partof this community together, but if you're
going to be here to break medown, see yeah. Yeah. In
fact, there's a term I wastalking to a friend about this recently that

(28:37):
there's a term for like those typesof people like you know, trolls of
course, but like some people callthem keyboard warriors, And I'm like,
why are we attaching warriors to thatstatement? Because a warrior is like someone
who is strong and like lift someoneup, not someone who feels behind the
screen like powerful, because you cantear someone down any word losers exactly,

(28:59):
you know what I mean? Likegoodbye, sir. You are not welcome
around here. Thank you. Hasthere ever been a point in your career
of doing content creation or even justin general where you're just like, I
don't want to do this anymore?Like oh man, yeah, because I
think a lot of people glorify likeinfluencing content creation because a lot of people
think we just sit around and likeeat avocado toast all day and really,

(29:25):
jerks, be if you could spenda day with a full time influencer,
let me just tell you that thereis not a second to eat avocado.
There literally is not. You're stuffingit down your face and moving on to
the next thing thousand percent. Imean I try to share that behind the
scenes life, which has gotten harderwith a trial now but a lot because
people don't realize. Yeah, likeI mean I have things all over.

(29:45):
I mean I have two campaigns honestlytoday that um like one that I need
to resubmit and things that will beshooting mind here let alone just like organic
content as we call it, ofthings that I just want to create outside
of paid partnerships. But no,there would definitely be times where I think
just between having a life in thepublic eye and all of the things that

(30:10):
come with that, right yea,so much um but also just yeah,
the it's a full time job,you know, Like I have a full
time job as a mom, asa creator, as of course a wife
and a friend and all of thosethings. And there are times where I
think I laugh at that statement oflike, oh, work for yourself,
you'll never work. You know,you'll never work a day in your life,

(30:30):
And I'm like, you'll never hada day off in your life.
Right, I work around the clock. I can't turn it off. Answering
messages as part of my work,and while it's enjoyable and amazing, like
it's still a time out of myday, like I'm always wanting to do,
so there's always things to do.I can't turn off like my business
brain a lot of the time,as much as I want to, because
like, sharing my life is whatI do for a living well, and

(30:52):
I think a lot of people thatdon't understand, like what I like the
actual things that it takes to dothis. Right, you're reaching out,
you're pitching to brands, which takesup a crap ton of time because it's
just like, out of twenty pitchesyou might get to right. So then
the next day you're like, Okay, I gotta pitch more. And then
you get it, and then yougotta go through the logistics of like payment,

(31:14):
what it's going to look like,what the deliverables are, Well,
you're gonna have to post that kindof thing, and then it's like then
you got to get whatever content itis like if they're sending you something or
you're going somewhere to shoot, likethen you got to make time to do
that. And then you have tocapture all of that, by the way,
with all of the the equipment thatyou've had to purchase or bring along
with you, right, or havesomebody shoot it for you, hire a

(31:34):
photographer or whatever it is. Thenyou got to edit it, and then
you got to create the caption andall the hashtags and all the all the
whatever, and then you gotta submitutesand then you gotta get it approved,
and then you gotta wait for apost date, and it's just like and
then something goes wrong with like theplatform, so then you're like planing to
post and there's there's always something youknow, like oh my gosh. Yeah,

(31:55):
I mean you describe that perfectly,Like every step is such a process.
Yes, And it's just like thisone one thirty second Instagram reel took
you three and a half four weeksto like deliver, Yeah, you know
what I mean, Yes, Andit's just like it's a lot of hard
work and I mean kudos to youbecause I do it very part time and
I just get annoyed with it.No I feel, I mean, who

(32:16):
a friend of mine was doing likea she just wanted to share kind of
a day in light, like notinfluencer, She just you know, wanted
to share like a day in thelife with her baby the other day.
Her daughter's like a week older thanback it and she like messaged me at
the end of the day and waslike, how do you do this?
Because I like I did one dayof it and I never want to do

(32:36):
it again. It really, Imean, it takes a special person and
it takes such a personality to beable to be authentic and do it.
And I mean I could give youa round of applause every second because you,
I mean, you do it sograciously you do it. You know,
I feel like it's just like anatural thing. And I know it's
a lot of hard work, butI think that I know that I can
speak for people looking in like fromthe outside, you're doing a great job.

(33:00):
Thank you so much. Yes,is it's I just wanted to be
that like, you know, bestfriend that you could wake up and see
you in the morning and then haveyour coffee with and know that, like
you know, I'm I'm not aI'm not a perfect little like, Um,
I just am a normal girl wholike I'm just like you. You
know, I wake up in themorning and my hair is a mess,

(33:21):
and I don't worry make up mostdays, and I'm a mom who's just
figuring it out. And before that, I was just a girl who's figuring
it out. Yeah, and you'reyou're a whole wife, You're a whole
big outs. Let's talk about momlife because I know that we've had several
text conversations about the beginning of havingan infant and those those weeks and weeks

(33:45):
that feel like seven years, thattransition of the like euphoria of being pregnant,
which well it is in some ways. There are some ways where you
are like, man, this isreally uncomfortable for the baby to come all
right. Other times where you're like, like I miss being pregnant all the
time, and I'm like, Idon't miss the days where I'm having,

(34:06):
you know, to lift my feetup at the end of the day because
they're like never you can wear ashoe, no, Like, yeah,
I had to wear open yeah slippers, slippersberg in stocks for like nine three
months. Yes, But that transitionfrom wife, just the two of you
to now the three of you kindof describe what happened to Bailey during those

(34:28):
moments, because I know there's hardones, but there's also some really teachable
moments. I feel like that youreally do learn more about yourself that you
never thought you would. Yeah,you know, it's been interesting because I
think one of the messages I've gottenmost frequently is that people say, like,
I have a different kind of glowsince becoming a mom. And it's
interesting because some of those come fromlike moments I've shared that have been immensely

(34:51):
hard on me, but I lookback at them now that we're kind of
out of the newborn fog, aswe call it, and I'm like,
you know, yeah, like Isee a piece of me in there that
like maybe didn't feel like it wasthere for me at that moment, but
like it was. M pooh.It has been the hardest thing I've ever
done. Yeah, the transition inthe motherhood is the hardest thing I've ever

(35:12):
done. And I think my husbandactually said it best that being in parent
is the hardest thing that you'll everlove to do. Yes, I love
it every day, but it isso flipping hard. And we were just
served every card in the book.In our first three months, I mean
double ear infections, we dealt withlike oral tongue ties, we dealt with
reflux, we dealt with back itwas just like would never go to sleep

(35:34):
on his own, Like it wasjust awful. I dealt with breastfeeding issues.
Nobody taught, nobody prepared me forthat, like and I think like
my personal transition as you asked inthat in that first month, the drop
of the hormones and the breastfeeding waslike I expected this kind of I'll go
back to your statement of like eficpregnancy moment, euphoric kind of experienced because

(35:59):
I feel like, yes, I'ma mom and like hot mom walks because
that's all we see is like theywere like getting out for I can't know
that is the representation we need tobe seen. I go not sleep.
I was like uncomfortable, and Iactually had a really really good recovery.
Um. I was very fortunate inthat and given everything that we went through

(36:20):
with back in specifically, I can'timagine like being in a different place than
I was. UM, Like,I don't know how much team either is
on here, but I had preparedfor like all the things down there and
I never even like put an icepack in. Yekay, you healed up.
I know she did. She did. She healed up. And like
now I'm like blessed because he wassuch a handful in the beginning that I

(36:42):
don't even know how I would havefunctioned. Yeah, um, let alone
Sam, Like we were so sleepdeprived, and I think that was actually
our biggest transition in that first month. That was hardest for us as a
couple is we're best friends and wedidn't see each other for like that whole
first month because if one of uswas a back and the other was sleeping
up, because it was just exhaustion, exhaustion, And I remember like he

(37:02):
would encourage me to go take napsin the bedroom so I could like be
away from the crying. And Iwas like, I just but I missed
you guys, Like even though I'mmiserable, I don't want to be away
from you and I haven't seen youin days, And that was just really
immense, like we'd finally gotten ourevenings back together now that back it sleeps
in the night, Oh yeah,bless um. And that even to just

(37:25):
like sit together for an hour watchTV show and have a bottle of wine.
Is like just that moment has broughtback so much more connection. Um.
And honestly, he's been incredible throughit all, Like I never felt
like we were distant, even thoughwe were physically distant. Yeah, um,
thanks to what an incredible man heis. But and seeing him become

(37:45):
his dad has just been the joyfeeling. When you see your husband become
a father, you're like, stoppulling it up, baby, right now,
another one thousand percent. I mean, even leaving them today, it
was like he was standing out inthe driveway over with him and I was
like, this is just the cutestthing I've ever seen and encouraging and do
my thing and it literally gets better. And he and I know we've talked

(38:07):
about that before because it's just likeseeing him now with an infant, like
just wait till a little Becket's runningaround and like my favorite thing in the
world is like Andrew comes home fromtraveling and like I'll get Emma up in
the morning and I know Andrew's downstairsand she hasn't seen him in a couple
of days, and I'll get herout of her crib and she'll look at
me and took a mama, dadda, and I'm like, yes, Dada's

(38:29):
home, and she like star grabsher blanket, grabs her cup, and
she's like ready to go downstairs.And like we have a really long like
hallway, and Andrew will stand atthe end of the hallway and I'll like,
look, Dada's home, and I'sput her on the ground and she
literally just like her little like likeruns up. Like there are so many
moments where it's like it just getsbetter. And I remember when I was

(38:51):
pregnant, people will be like,just wait, just wait till this,
just wait till this, You're gonnahate it. And it's just like,
no, I'm gonna love it because, like you said, you're loving all
of these moments because you're like,Okay, it's hard, but I love
it. But it is like theprivilege of my life. Yes, no,
and it is. And I thinkthat was something I feel like I
talked about in the last first monthtoo. It's like you don't have to

(39:14):
love every flip in moment, okay, And you're not going so honest about
that because I'm like I feel likeeveryone just has this perception of motherhood that
it's like or that was a commentI got a lot. Well, enjoy
these moments because Turner, you know, blink and they'll be whatever. They'll
be five, they'll be eighteen.And I'm like or like, honestly,
I find so much inspiration in thereels that are like, you know,

(39:36):
you only have like twelve summers orwhatever them. But I also feel like
we need to like open up theconversation about Okay, I know that,
but that doesn't mean like every dayI have to be like, wow,
parentine is the gift of my life. Like some days you were just gonna
have a freaking hard day and you'regonna be like I have this last week
with Beckett, like I have themost beautiful bedtime with him, and I
literally was crying putting him to bedbecause it was so beautiful. And then

(39:59):
other days I am so exhausted thatI'm literally just like I cannot wait for
bedtime to be over because I amlike, I love you, but oh
my word, I need fifteen minutesto myself. Well, and I mean
we all have those moments, andlike my husband knows for sure, when
I have those, I get reallylike worked up when I'm like need a
minute, yeah, and I willjust go into the room and I'll close

(40:21):
the door and he knows, like, Emma, mommy needs ten minutes.
And I don't know. You guysprobably haven't like like dove into shows and
stuff yet. But there's this showcalled Bluey Oh we love well, so
we haven't watched with Beckett, butlike my um nephew loves Bluey dude,
oh episode. The episodes are literallyfor the parents. Okay, so there's

(40:44):
this one episode where Mom's like,I need fifteen minutes, and so she
goes in the room and close thedoor, and like the two little kids
are like, I'm gonna go findmom. And then I was like,
no, you're not, Like yeah, this is so real because it happens,
and it's like you said, itis the hardest thing that you love
to do. And I love thatyou said that because it's such a true

(41:04):
thing. Where like parenthood, peoplewill be like I don't know if I'm
ready for kids, and I'm like, you're never gonna be ready right now,
You're never gonna be ready. Likethe same thing happened when Andrew and
I got engaged. It was likebefore we got engaged, somebody asked him
like, what are you guys thinkinghe was just like, I don't know
if we're we're financially ready, andthey're like, you're never gonna be ready.
Just do it, Just do it. Yeah, And he did it
angeally, emotionally, physically yea.Literally, and then like parenthood, like

(41:28):
when it comes to kids, I'mlike, you're never gonna be ready.
It's gonna happen when it's supposed tohappen. But also it's going to be
the hardest thing that's ever happened toyou. But you're gonna love every second
of it. Maybe not every second, but most of the second, most
of the seconds. It is true. I mean that's a and one minute
you are, you're having a harmon, and then they look up at you
and you're like, like, dang, it created you. That is insane.
That steel is insane to me,or that I literally am like I

(41:52):
grew you right, that is justmind blowing to me. In the moments
where you like put them to bedand then they're on the monitor, Oh
I kind of want to go wakehim up, like, or you're like
literally watching videos from that day ofthem and you're like, I literally just
put you down. Literally, Itold myself I wanted time to myself,
and I'm watching a video you fromten minutes ago, like separation, anxiety,

(42:14):
what the so? So that isfair enough? Well, just knowing
that you're not alone in that becauseI feel those things. I know so
many of my friends feel those things, and like it just keeps getting better.
I can't wait for you to comelike run around with im a here,
Linda. I know, well,maybe they'll just have a little date
in like years. I wouldn't besad about it. I mean, guys,
you guys can watch this video inten years and maybe okay, maybe

(42:37):
not ten, maybe like fifty.I was like, wait, hold are
they okay? Okay, wait yeah, maybe like fifteen years Okay, when
you guys are like seventeen. Yeah, maybe we'll consider a date. Okay,
we'll pay for it, we'll makeit happy for it'll be special.
I'm here for that, okay,Bailey. I'm so excited that you got
to hang with us today when thebest thank you for having we do something
at the very end of the podcastwhere there's a sweet little gu ball machine

(43:00):
right in front of you, andinside there are random questions. So at
the very end, you just answera random question and there's one right there
on the end, and yeah,which favorite is it? Yes, in
the pink boots um, which areunfortunately out of stock for anyone that I
know. I hate when I lovesomething and I wear it all the time

(43:21):
and people are like what are thosefrom? And I'm like, oh,
you can't get them. That's what'ssafer for me too, is an influence.
Like I do a lot of throwbackoutfits, and I always feel back
because I'm like, can't link this, But like, I think it's important
to remind people that it's okay tolike go back and love things in your
closet because I think as a creator, like a lot of people expect me
to always have like new fits,and it's like I rebound stuff a lot,
like well, and like the pressurethat it takes to have new fits

(43:44):
all the time. It's like,listen, I'm not going out and spending
six hundred dollars so I can justmake some content for I'm just not one
for then I'm like gonna, yeah, it's it's it's a hole deal,
Okay, Oh I love this.I'm excited. Well, you have cute
little nails too. I'm predictable.Yes, we went with like the knee
on. You know, I turnedthirty tomorrow, so, oh my god,
hilarious. We were talking about boots. What sized shoe do I wear?

(44:06):
Hey? So I wear a sizeten same z of course we do.
I need to come like shop yourcloset or something. And now I
know if I can visit, Ican just like wear boots are closed for
me. Literally, I was justgonna say, the next time you come
visit, you don't even have tobring a lot of stuff. Just come
over to my house. You canraid the entire closet. I want that.
I got your dress that you werethe other day. I mean,
if you want to wear it thisweek for thirty, I got you.

(44:29):
It is really cute. It's ocute. I should I ask you bring
it? But yes, I weara size ten um and there are and
I have a really wide calf samereally wed calf. A. Rula has
great boots for wide Let's go becauselike they're the only brand I mind that
fits. You want to know westand Ula is my favorite dad. They

(44:51):
always have the cutest and if you'reyou've never heard of a Rula basically it's
like Altered States sister store. Yeah, and they carry size ten I think
like twenty four. Yes, yeah, so they just have the most amazing
cute I have so many boots andI have like really high ones that are
widecafare I could never find. Yeah. I also love that their sizing is

(45:13):
listed as like amazing, beautiful,it's size bee. Yeah, it's so
great. It's not like, oh, I don't know I'm size. It's
just one of those things. Ifeel like a lot of people, for
whatever reason, feels shame when theysee a size same with like a number
on a scale. Yeah, ifyou feel confident in your body, who

(45:36):
cares? Literally, who cares?Who cares? Yeah? I love you
so, I love you so much. I'm squeezy. Yeah. I was
like, I don't have to endthis podcast like you have across the room
and to geeze your face. ButI'm so excited to celebrate your birthday.
Yeah, I can't wait have yourbirthday queen. Thank you name