Charly Reynolds - Vocal Chord Surgery + The Ups & Downs of Trying to Make it in Nashville

Brooke Taylor (@BrookeRadio) chats with Charly Reynolds (@CharlyReynoldsMusic) about new music, vocal chord surgery and the ups and downs of being a female in country music, trying to make it in Nashville.

Episode Transcript

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Backstage. Welcome to Backstage with Brook. You're all access past to music City
where nothing is off limits. Graba drink, let's go backstage. All
right, y'all, it's official anotherepisode of Backstage with Brooke and y'all.
My guest today Charlie Reynolds. Hiquier, what's up. I'm so excited

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that we're doing this. Me too, I'm so excited. I love it.
It's funny because I feel like whenI met you, we met at
Raylan's birthday, right, that's whenwe officially met. I feel like I
followed you on Instagram or there wassomething on social media, yes, something,
of course, like everyone I swear, and I was just like,
and then we met and then we'vekind of been friends ever since. And
I know it's kind of like along distance friendship sometimes because I mean,

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you're busy, I'm busy. We'reall, yeah, we're all busy.
But I'm really excited to just kindof sit down chat with you about same
this musical journey that's been one thatis right. So I feel like on
this podcast, specifically the whole behindthe scenes of just like what you do
as an artist. Everybody sees Instagram, they see the you know, the

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songs that you release. They streamyour music, they see your interviews,
your performances, but nobody gets tosee like backstage, Charlie, Yes,
what you're doing on a daily basis, and the grind that it is to
be an artist. It's a lot, and no one, You're right,
like, no one sees that sideof it. They just think everything's like
amazing and perfect. But like,y'all don't see the struggle. You know.

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So rewind to the very beginning yourmusical career in where it started.
Tell us this story on like whereCharlie Reynolds started. Yeah, I mean,
growing up, I loved like Disneymovies and Disney Princess singing that kind
of stuff, seeing Broadway musicals,which is totally different than what I do.
Get this stuff, isn't it neat? Exactly? That was me,

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okay? And then I got intolike Hilary Duff, Taylor Swift, all
that kind of stuff, and myfamily listening kind tree, so it just
kind of came naturally, I guess. Then saw Carrie Underwooden concert when I
was like twelve, blown away toher and I was like, you were
literally blown away? Yes, Iwas literally blown away exactly. I was

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like, this is what I wantto do, but I didn't know how.
And so when I went to highschool, I released like an album
an EP that is no longer available. Dang it. I was just gonna
say, where do I get it? Definitely don't go go looking um.
But I then I just like Idecided, you know, college is always
there. I can go back whenI'm like eighty years old one I want

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to go. So that's kind ofwhat made the decision for me, and
my parents were so supportive. Andthen I came here, worked at Chick
fil A for eight months and didn'tknow anyone. Okay, okay, I'm
really excited to talk to you aboutthis because I've always wondered the whole like
were when they're like my pleasure.That's like a thing they teach you,
a thing. I had to liketrain myself to get out of it when
I stopped working there, because Iwould like open the door for somebody and

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they say thank you'd be like mypleasure, and that's just weird, Like
you don't say that like a brand, like a regular person doesn't just say
that. So I had to reallylike get it out because that's like a
legit thing. What is your favoriteChick fil A menu item as an employee
a former employee. I love mesome strips, okay, alright, strips
with fries. I had breakfast thismorning. I want it so bad today.

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Actually I almost got it yesterday.I'm probably gonna go today. But
I love strips. I never gotsick of it either, because I just
switched from like nuggets to strips tosandwich and never got tired of it.
I feel I wish I would have, you know what. I feel like
that is just one thing. Chickfil A. It's always an option.
Always. If my husband's like,what do you want for dinner tonight,
I'm like pick something and he's likethis this or Chick fil A. I'm
like, you can always put itin there, right exactly. It always

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fits. We love it. Okay. So working at Chick fil A to
starting, you know, really justdiving into the musical scene. Yeah,
what was that transition? Like,I'm sure it was a little weird.
Yeah. During that transition, likeI lived out in spring Hill, which
is like forty five minutes from Nashville, were more depending on the traffic,
but I had moved into Franklin,like near the end of the eight months

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that I worked there and just startedmessaging people on Instagram. I had no
idea how it worked here, LikeI didn't know what a publishing it was.
I didn't know that, Like youcan't just write with like the biggest
songwriters in town, right, Solike I legit messaged like two I'm not
saying who they are, okay,but they did respond actually very kindly and

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anyway. So I would just likereach out to people because I didn't know
what the heck I was doing.And so that's how I met some of
my friends. And then someone reachedout to me about going to an event
and I went in that time metmore people and it just kind of spiraled
from there and then started learning howit worked about singing downtown, about like
all that kind of stuff. Yeah, so yeah, it just it's still

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a learning thing, Like I feellike there's so much to learn still every
year that's like different or every dayreally, But back then it was such
like a weird time. I didn'tknow who I was as an artist either,
what I wanted my sound to be. Like, you had no idea
if you were taking you were literallyit's like being a country artist. I
feel like in any field that you'rein, you it's like you're a baby,

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right, you gotta learn to crawl, and then you gotta learn to
walk, and then you gotta learnto talk, and then it's just like
there's so many moving parts in thisbusiness. And I know that last year
you did a residency at Miranda Lambert'son Broadway. Yes, So what was
that like? And like, whatis that conversation? Like? Do you
have to apply for those kind ofgigs? No? It was actually kind
of funny the way. The wayit happened was I was playing at the

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Row and like maybe once or twicea week, I don't know, and
one of my friends who played therewas like, Hey, I need somebody
to play with me tomorrow at Miranda's. It just opened. It was only
open for like two weeks, andI've been wanting to play there, but
it was four hour sets and Ididn't know enough like on the guitar by
myself totally. And I still don'tknow enough on the guitar, I know,

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and so anyway, I was like, no, I don't know,
and then um, she was likeno really please, Like my partner dropped
out, so I was like,okay, So I did it, and
then I did it with her fortwo weeks. The third week she got
sick and so I was stranded bymyself and so that's time at the booking

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guy because she sent me his numberto get somebody else and then he just
started booking us separately. So Ikind of just like fell into it.
Man, God is cool and hedoes that though he like will open that
door or whatever. You know,it's just like you don't know that that's
what's going to happen, and God'slike, hey, girl, this is
for you. And it was thebest thing ever. Like people sometimes hate

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on Broadway people that live here becausethey're like, oh, they're just playing
on Broadway or whatever. That wasthe best thing that could have happened to
me because I learned how to performlike really well and how to turn it
on and not be so shy.I had like kind of a lot of
stage fright before performing on Broadway,and then it just really like took me

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to another level. I felt likein my performing because I didn't worry as
much. I'm always like a perfectionist, but then when it came to Broadway,
I was like, Okay, Idon't have to be perfect. I
can just have fun and like bethe fun in people's weekend, you know.
So that really like helped me witheveryday performing totally. And I feel
like it's almost like, say youbring athletics into it, it's like a

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scrimmage. It's like a practice.It's like a live practice exactly. It
was always a practice. So itwas so much money. And even when
people weren't there, Like if wegot a morning slot, I normally played
two to six, but if forsome reason I played like attend to two
and there was nobody there in themorning, it was kind of nice because
I was like, okay, Ican practice all the songs that I don't
normally do right and then no onewill seem But we loved Casa Rosa.

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I mean, the food is amazing. Fritos are good. Yesterday I did
like a thing with them, andI made the bluebird ya if you like
whiskey. It was a good drink. Okay, we need to get some
bluebirds here, do you do?It was so good, But it also
opened up like a lot of differentopportunities that just were like random from meeting

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people well, and so you mentionedsomething that I kind of want to,
like go, I want to gothere and be completely honest about it because
I feel like there is that stigmain Nashville of playing Broadway. You're not
a real artist, You're just aBroadway artist, And in my eyes,
you're as real as they get,you know what I mean. And so
I feel like when you're on theother side of it, like when you're

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standing there saying, you know,posting on social media, because I mean,
I'm a female, I understand postingon social media is vulnerable sometimes and
you go to places and your mindgoes to places that you know people don't
see when you post it, butyou're like, hey, come see me
at Miranda's. Is there that littlethought in your mind that you're like,
oh, this is embarrassing or like, I'm it's weird, you know what

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I mean. In the beginning,yeah, I think so. And then
when I started to realize how muchit was helping my artist's career, like
it can go one of two ways. The reason why people say it is
because some people do end up likingit, loving it, staying down there
forever. Because you make good money, like you it's great if you want
to do that forever. You don'thave to tour, you don't stay home

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exactly. Like it's great, butif you want to be you know,
be an artist, artist and travelafter, you've got to use it to
your advantage, which is what Idid. I always promoted my music down
there. I would sing because I'mmirandas you can sing original stuff, I
know it. Some of them youcan't butt that one you can. I
would bring in like flyers like formy or like fans during cmafest we have

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the like rodeo fan things to promoteit. Like use it to your best
advantage because the people that are downthere think it's the coolest thing ever.
You know, like say, useit to your advantage to like help your
music and help your artistry. Andthen it also like helps you figure out
like who you are as an artist, how you are on stage, and
like making those connections with fans andbuilding it and really pushing your socials too,

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which which is another thing that grewa lot well. And I think
it's so great to have somebody onthe other side of it because, like
you said, there are so manypeople that are like no, no,
no, but there are so manyother artists that are playing gigs like this
and somebody happens to be in thebuilding and they're like, who the heck
is that? Yeah, and Imean never yes, you even Kaylee Green,

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do you know? Okay? Yes? Like she Keith Urban brought her
on stage from playing on Broadway,like you just never know, ever know.
But I don't regret it at all. I love, honestly miss it,
like I would go back. You'relike Miranda, I'm like, I
don't want one hundred percent go backthere, blank, Jason who everybody,

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Just let me know when you needme. I'm just kidding. So right
now in your career, what isthe next step that you are just like
yearning for, Like that you want, Yeah, that you're you know,
you're speaking it into existence. Iwant to go on tour so bad.
So when it comes to like theartist's stuff, performing is my thing.

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Like I love songwriting, but notas much as like performing. That's just
my love. That is my passion, Like I love it, so for
me, that's the next thing Iwant to do. Obviously right now through
my vocal surgery and stuff, it'sjust on the back burner for a little
bit. But but once I getthere, that's the goal, like maybe

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in the summer or fall or something. And I love that you just brought
this up because I wanted to talkto you about your vocal surgery that you
had, Yeah, having to goliterally on vocal rest, like I mean
you had a dry erase board.Yeah. I did communicate with what happened,
like why did what was the decision? Like? Yeah, So it

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actually started almost a year ago.It was April when I started having these
issues. I got really sick andsang on top of that, which was
stupid, but I went home todo some shows at Old Red and Orlando,
and I hadn't played at home sinceI moved away, so it was
like a long time. And Ijust took steroid packs to get me through

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the week, and and that killedme because you know, steroids are like
a band aid, so it mademe feel fine. But then after I
came off of them, my doctorwas like, your immune system is like
so suppressed, Like you need tojust lock yourself in your house for a
week and not go anywhere and rest. So I did, got better,
continued playing at Costa Rosa, andthen went to Texas for some shows and

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got really sick again. And sangon top of it again, which again
was stupid. I'm thanking again somuch, but it was like the constant,
it was so much totally and duringthat like bronchitis. I had it
for seven weeks, cracked a ribfrom coughing to perform, and I had

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to cancel. I hate canceling.That's why it's like, I don't want
to disappoint anybody. Yeah, butyou have to, like now, I
know, like I have to thinkof my voice and my health first.
But it's really hard because you don'twant people to think you're a flake or
something, you know. So comeAugust, I knew something was wrong.
I after like PBR, I didthe National Anthem and had some shows like

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four days in a row, andthe National Anthem was the last day,
and I just knew. I waslike, it hurts. It didn't sound
bad, it just hurts. Yeah. So I went in and they were
like they looked at my vocal chords. They were all bloody and swollen and
bumpy. It was horrible. AndI'd seen them before so like and they're
supposed to be just white and likestraight. They were so messed up.

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And I was like, oh,what have I done. So I went
on vocal us for a whole monthof September, which was no talking,
no singing, and then but onceI started talking and singing again, it
just like came back. So DecemberI decided, I was like, you
know what, if I'm gonna doit, I'm gonna do it during like
slow season, totally January, February, March, and I have any pe

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coming out in March. Now it'scoming out in June. Yeah, still
coming out, which all worked forthe best because I got to put out
some other stuff that I wasn't goingto that I really like. So but
it was just a process. Itwas a scary thing because it definitely had
the risk of like you might notsing again, it might be screwed up
after this. It has taken alittle bit longer than I thought. It

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was only supposed to take three monthsrecovery. Now we're on four. But
it's really because of allergy season.It's like just got to my throat,
so not necessarily my vocal cords,but it's gotten to my throat. So
it's been a process. I wasjust gonna say, so for somebody listening
that might not you know, they'renot an artist. They don't understand.
It's like nursing an injury as anathlete, like you know, you're taking

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ivory prof in, you're icing it, you're trying to make it, you
know, get through until the endof the season. And it's weird.
I can't even imagine going into amajor surgery like this and saying like,
okay, you know, hopefully itright, Okay, God, exactly,
please watch over you know, mymy vocal chords, because this is I

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mean, this is your dream,this is what it is. Now.
Where did those thoughts cross your mind? You know what? Though I had
like such a piece about it atthe same time, Um, I think
in the months because I hadn't playedLet's see, I hadn't played a show,
or I haven't played a show sinceAugust, which is weird from going

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from like a year and a halfplaying two shows a weekend, you know,
Randa's it's very strange. Um So, the thought in my mind was
like, do I even know howto do this anymore? Will I even
be able to do this anymore?Am I gonna have to like change my
whole life if I can't sing it? You know, I can't sing?
And then I was all worried.I'd never been under anaesthesia before. I
was like, am I gonna die? I was like, what's gonna happened?

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Like it's just it was scary.But my doctor when we went in
there, they also well, firstof all, I was still working,
like because I had a song comingout in like three weeks, so the
surgery was late. So I waslike on dropbox, drop boxing, like
my team stuff, and They're like, aren't you supposed to be in surgery,
Like what's going on? I waslike, this is how I keep
my mind off of it, likeworking and like doing stuff. So then

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they gave me some shot that likecalmed me down like right before surgery,
because I guess not because I waslike hyped up, but they just do
it for everybody, a little relaxation, and man, I was like laughing.
I was happy. I was like, this is gonna be fine.
No, I'm not stressed, andI wasn't. And I wasn't stressed after

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I went back in the week afterand they were like everything went great,
like it looks great, but it'sstill like a trusting process still, you
know, even because of the allergies, because I'm like, what if it's
not allergies. What if I can'tsing like I don't. It's it's been
stressful, but it is going towork out for the best. But it
has been like a faith testing time. I was just gonna say, I

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feel like when you're on a missionto further the kingdom or you're just you
know, I always say Christians havethe biggest bulls eyes on their back.
It's so true. And it's likeSatan's like, okay, Charlie, yeah
I love this. Let me justlet me just let me just mess with
it a little bit, see ifyou really do trust God. Yeah,
it's and that is like I feltthat I went to church after this.

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I mean I go to church usually, but I went specifically after the surgery
and asked to get prayed over becauseI was like, I need y'all to
pray over these vocal cords, likebecause the devil be trying to get me
and I am not letting that happen. And what's so great is surrounding yourself
with people that when your faith islittle, their faith is bigger for you.

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And I think, you know,I mean, you know me and
my faith and how much I believe. But it's so great to have those
you know, that discernment to say, you know what, I'm feeling a
little little right now, let mego over and ask somebody else to help
me, you know. Sure.Yeah, And that was a lot for
me because I don't do that,like and not that I think that when

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other people go down they'd be prayedover at church. But for me,
I was like, oh, Iwant I don't know, I'm like,
if this is like big enough togo down there and ask for that,
you know, totally. But itmade me feel better. And you know,
it wasn't just me and my familypraying. It was like a random
obviously. Yeah. Right, sowell, I know that you are covered.
On my end, I'm praying forhealthy vocal words forever and ever.

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Amen, Thank you, yes,please, yes, please. So let's
kind of switch gears a little bitand talk about this music industry, right,
not specifically just the industry, butbeing a female in this industry is
I feel like, one of thetoughest things in the entire world. It
is for trying to break through,trying to be nice, I used to

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each other, comparing yourself to otherpeople. Do you ever find yourself looking
at other artists and being like,man, why am I not there yet?
Or why am I not like that? Or you know, I'll see
people when we came to this townat the same time, started doing stuff
at the same time, and theyseem so much further along than me.
I think I used to struggle withthat a lot more before, like probably

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like two years ago. But nowI'm like, okay, you know,
I'm it's easier for me now tolike stop those thoughts immediately and be like
I have I can't do that.We're all in a different path. We're
all you know, somewhere different andthere's not one path to take. So
now it's easier for me to stopthose thoughts. But I used to really
struggle with that. And you know, it's also hard too because in this

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industry, I feel like people,you know, whether it's an R or
whatever, you can't look at likea record labe and be like, oh,
you know, they already have ablonde girl. Yeah, they already
have like two blonde girls. Ican't be you know, like and that
rings true. Like even for anevent that I've wanted to go to or
be a part of, it waslike, well, there's already like three
blonde girls, so we want tomake sure you all have equal chance.

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But it's like we are literally noteven the same at all, you know.
But because of that, like asa girl, guys, some of
them all look the same, youknow, but that doesn't happen for them,
So it's a little weird. Itis very interesting to me on the
other side of it, you know, like I'm on the other side of
the microphone, and I like seeit with a different lens for sure.

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Yeah, but it is very strangeto me that it's always a very weird
comparison game. And it's just likethe guys I feel like maybe silently like
maybe struggle or like talk differently aboutone another. But I feel like the
female aspect of it sometimes just feelsugly, yeah, where it's like you
have to be cutthroat and you haveto be you know, so and so

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is doing this, I need todo this or whatever, and it's just
like I feel like the reality ofit all that I wish people and everybody
else understood is that there's room forall of us exactly. There's literally room
for every single one of us.And the again, like the whole comparison
thing, it's like you just can't. You can't let yourself do it because
you will viral like I. I'vedone it, like I, you know,

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just start thinking like you start thinkingso negatively of yourself. And it's
with any and just like anyone,even if you're just on like somebody's Instagram
seeing their highlights of their life,and that's the same as how it is
here. It's like, you know, even stuff that I post and like
that or that looks good, youknow, but maybe it wasn't exactly what
it looks like, you know,Like I was hosting at the CMT Awards,

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but people thought I was like thereas an artist. It's just you
never know, like you it's justinteresting. Was there was there ever a
point in your career where you're like, I'm out. I quit the first
first, like three months I wasdone and I hadn't even given it,
Like I literally was here three monthsand I was like I don't get it.

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I like, like I don't wantto be a part of this,
And so I went and toured utin Knoxville because I was like, screw
this. Also, I was watchingmy friends from high school all go to
college and all being sororities, makingfriends looking like my life I was looking
at my life is like I haveno friends? What have I done?
This is a stupid decision. Lookhow much fun they're having. But I'm

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glad that I didn't. But atthe time, I think it was more
like that I didn't because I wouldhave been embarrassed, like of other people
from home being like, oh mygosh, she only lasted three months like
in this new town or whatever.And I think at the time that's what
kept me going a little bit.But I also did during COVID because I

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just was so depressed during that time, which I don't know why, because
I was tannin every day I wasin Florida. I looked back and I'm
like, why were you so depressed? But I'm also a planner, so
when there was no planning, suchstress on me. But I thought for
a little bit, because I wasso depressed, I was like, maybe
I just want to move home andquit. Yeah, but I'm glad that
I didn't. And then I cameback and like stuck it out. And

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but it was Listen, everybody duringCOVID was depressed. And I don't care
what anybody says, Yes you were, Yes you were literally guess you were,
And it's like, I don't remember. I don't. I mean I
know that I was, I don'tremember it as much. I just remember
like I was in Florida with myfamily, like going to the beach,
tanning every day, watching Levet orListed or Catfish till three am. So

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when I look back, I'm like, or Tiger Kings. Do you remember?
Yes, Oh my gosh, yes, But it's like, what,
that's the dream right there, youknow, but the you know, there's
no routine. For two weeks,it was fun, and then after that
it was like it's like always inhindsight, right, like you can go
through something and it's the hardest thingyou're ever going through because it's like right
here in your face. But thenonce it's like back there, you're like,

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oh, I guess that was fine. Yeah, it's like why was
it? Why? And I feellike that's kind of like COVID. It's
just like when you were in it, you were like, I must sister
exactly because because there's there was somuch unknown, like nobody knew what was
happening, And then you look backon it and you're like, man,
i'd give what I gave a thingto go back for two weeks of nothing,
I know, literally having to donothing, absolutely nothing. But um,

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I'm glad that I came back andkept going. I played some weird
shows during that year and then justkept plugging along totally. If there was
here, if there was an artist, it could be male or female,
whoever, yea that you could likea dream tour somebody that you would just
like die to go on tour with. There's so many, I mean,

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list some queen, let's manifest itall right, let's list them, Let's
liste them. We got Reba Hey, the Queen. I loved her show
as well. I've watched like threetimes. You want to know what's really
funny. Reba was my very firstCD ever, growing Yes, I remember.
I think it was like I can'tremember what birthday party I remember specifically,
I had a strawberry cake and somebodygave me a blue I don't remember

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the title of the album, butone where it's like yeah, yeah,
I think consider me gone. It'stotally yeah. Yeah, that was my
very first CD ever. That's crazyshut outback in talk Um love love so
Reba Randa, Like, I knowthat's a little weird, but I love
them both, Carrie, I meanall of them, so many like Morgan

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Wallen obviously guess um, but yeah, I don't know. There's so like
the list goes on and on andon for that. I truly love so
many people well, and I meanjust from the other side of it too,
Like I know that it's tough,and I know that the grind is,
yes, people will never see this, yeah, grind that you're going

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through the like backstage part of itif you will, but you're gonna get
there. Yeah, it's it's it'sgonna happen. It's gonna happen one way
or another because that's what's in yourheart and God's gonna honor that. And
I just I'm excited for you,and I'm excited for what's happening in the
future because girl, this EP.Yeah, if you haven't heard some of
these teasers, she's I'm so excited. I'm so excited because I've been wanting

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to do EP for like two yearsand then after the surgery it got pushed
back again. I was like,oh my gosh, what am I gonna
get to do this thing? Andthen um, now I'm finally going to
do it. They already playing thebase in June. It's the end of
June. Okay, I'm like Juneeighteenth or something. Okay, don't quote
me on that, but it's sometimesyeah, so and then I've got um

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my single Flowers, and then anothersingle and then that so excited, very
excited. It's gotta be really Imean, I don't even know what the
feeling would be like because I've neverdone it, obviously, but like putting
out a song that you have heardprobably three hundred times, yea, what
is it? What's the feeling oflike putting something out that you're like,

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hey, I did this, thisis me. I hope you like it.
Yeah, it's kind of scary.It's exciting, but also it's like
I hope people like it. Likeit's like, hopefully this is what people
want to hear. But then atthe same time, with the EP specifically,
I kind of was like, andI don't know if this is the
way you should do it, butI did it this way anyway. But
I was like, you know what, I don't even care if these don't

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necessarily go together because there's two differentproducers on it, yeah, or actually
three, But I was like,I love these the way they are and
this is me. So that's whatI'm putting out, you know, Like
I'm not not that that's necessarily theway you should do it, but I
was like, these are what Ilove, and these are what I want
out because I haven't put out aproject, I mean besides high School,

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but I haven't put out a projecthere, and like, I want every
single song to relate to me andI want you know, I like how
they each sound separately, So I'mjust gonna throw them all together and put
them on the EP Listen. Here'sthe thing. You know, in this
industry, a lot of people whenyou get signed to a label that kind
of stuff, you're not really allthe way in charge. Yeah you know

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what I mean. So while youcan be all the way in charge,
girl, be all the way incharge exactly. And that's what I love
about being an independent artist because like, obviously there's pros and cons to both
having a record label and very independent, but at the same time, like
I get to pick the cover photo, I get to pick the singles,
I get to pick like and doit how I want it to be,

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which is nice, right. Iyou know, I'm not like a control
freak or anything. But it's niceto have the control for now, like
yes before yea, you know Idon't anymore. Exactly, yeah, exactly.
Oh man, I seriously, Iam so excited for you, and
I just I can't wait to seewhat else happens for Charlie. Charlie Reynolds,

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the Queen. I, like Isaid before, you are as real
as they come. And I meanI've seen you perform, I've heard your
music, and I mean, y'alllisten, just listen, rodeo, honey.
That's all right, Charlie, You'reamazing. Everybody on social media tell
them where they can find you.Yeah, you guys can listen to my

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music anywhere at Charlie Reynolds and SocialistCharlie Reynold's music c H A R L
Y. You got it, Yougot it. Thanks for coming by,
Queen. Thank you, Brook