August 11, 2025 • 18 mins
Get ready for a great conversation! In this episode, DJ Pup Dawg sits down with his longtime friend, the one and only Kardinal Offishall. They dive into Kardi’s latest ventures, exploring why he can never truly step away from music. They also share some heartfelt moments, discussing the importance of giving people their flowers while they’re still here, with Kardi even touching on his friend, Malcolm-Jamal Warner. He also gives a lot of love to the legendary Busta Rhymes. You’ll also get a laugh as they joke about what it's like for other artists to perform after Kardi's high-energy sets. Plus, they talk about his brand new song, "Soak," featuring Rotimi. Tune in to watch these two friends connect and catch up!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Straight from Pakistan to La to Boston. Wow, I cannot believe.
I was going through my texts and my messages. With
social media, you feel like you're always connected with somebody.
But man, Cardi official, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man? What Yo? It has been a minute, bro, It's.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Crazy how long it's been since I've actually physically talked to.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You in person.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Right, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But because of social media, I'm like, I just talked
to my boy yesterday, Like that's what it feels like.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Oh man, I know, but that, you know what, I think,
that's the beauty of it. A lot of times we
look at the negative stuff, but you know that's that's
what's dope, is that we can we can stay connected
in ways that we couldn't before.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So well, you look great, man. Everything's been good.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Everything has been incredible, to be honest. I literally just
got back from Jamaica, from New York, from you know,
all over the place. Like you know, it's a it's
a blessing family on the road touring. I'm still over.
I'm still over rocking with my guys over at Deaf
jam as the Global A and R so you know,
TV like a lot, A lot of things are happening,
(01:03):
but you know what I'm saying, Like, we just released
this song featuring my homeboy wrote Timmy called Soak you
know what I'm saying the other day, and man, that
is literally taking us, taking us around the world.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's dope.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
When I saw led mom out come out, like in
the beginning of the year, I was like, oh, is
Cardi coming back with some records because I know there's
so much behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You're an actor too, but there's so much behind the
scenes that you do.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I didn't know if music was gonna be able to
fit into your your schedule, yo.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Music.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
That's the crazy thing is that like music never went anywhere.
I think what it is for me bro as for
a lot of people. I diversified my portfolio as opposed
to transitioning. Some people just give up music, like shout
out to Nori, Like, you know, Nori's one of our
our our favorite you know what I mean, our hip
one of our hip hop gods. But it's like some
people like him and they're like, ah, nah music for
(01:54):
what you know what I'm saying, But I think for me,
I don't think I have that. I don't think I
have the luxury, you know what I'm saying, of even
giving it up or stop doing it even if I
wanted to, so behind the scenes in front, like I mean,
listen over obviously. Another thing about being like an international
artist and a global MC is that the reality is that,
you know, within my country, like in Canada, it's different
(02:17):
than like representing New York or la or Boston or wherever,
because for me, I have a whole country on my back,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, I got
a star on the Walk of Fame, I got a doctorate,
I got you know, Legacy Awards, all, you know, all
this amazing stuff that's been happening in Canada. You know,
I was working with Shania Twain and Howie Mandel for
(02:39):
the past four seasons. Well Shania just joined, but I've
been working with Howie Mandel as a judge on Canada's
Got Talent for the past four season. Just a lot
of dope stuff, bro, you know what I mean. It's
my tenth year as a record exec. So a lot
of dope stuff I've been I've been working on, but
all of it always centers around music. Music has always
been the passion. And without music, you know, I don't
(03:00):
know what I'd be doing. I'd be an accountant.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, you would not cardital officials on right now.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But man, talk about obviously, you know we've known each
other for a long time. You've been a big stable,
dangerous will never go away ever ever. Ever, that like
record still tests to you know, it's like test you know,
we test records and stuff. You know how that works,
but it still comes back so strong. You were the
first that I know, or like you know, the one
that really took off globally from Toronto. And then now
(03:29):
talk about all the Canadian artists. Obviously you guys have
major kings out there now. But like, talk about that
growth on how when I did Chum Radio. I used
to mix on Chum Radio. I remember back in the
day in Canada and they said every third artist has
to be a Canadian artist.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So I'm going with this.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
At that at that time it was a little tougher
and then the explosion of Canadian artists just globally around
the world.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Talk about that. You you started that guy, Yeah, I
mean you.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Know what obviously, with the advancement technology things, exposure and
Discovery became a lot easier, you know what I'm saying.
And it's like at the time, you know, listen, I
got my deal, my first major deal in LA two
thousand and one is when I first came out, you
know what I'm saying. And it's like, by the time
(04:17):
Dangerous came along, which was I think it was eight,
that's literally when everything started exploding. Twitter or Instagram, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Social media became more of a staple in the entertainment industry.
And that is also the time, ironically, when we saw
The Weekend, we saw Drake you know, Bieber and then
you know, Alessia car after that, Daniel Caesar after that,
(04:41):
nav so many you know, so many different tories, so
many different amazing artists that come from Canada that the
world is well aware of now. But it's like, you know,
I think before it's like, you know, it's like anything else,
there's always going to be people that are gonna kick
those doors open. It's really about like you know what
I mean, once those doors are open, who's going to
take advantage of that?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Right? And I think you know, we have you know.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Jesse Rayes, so many incredible artists that are making major
impact globally right now, you know, representing from up north.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
That's amazing. Man, I have seen you working.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Your shows are energetic, and you know, with all this
stuff going on getting back on the road, are your
shows just as energetic?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Bro Listen, I don't care who you are.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I don't care who you are, Like doing shows with Busta,
doing shows with Luda Chris. The funnier thing is, like,
you know, just some of the new kids that are
just starting out, like it's not very easy to go
on after me, no matter who you are. You know,
it's not easy to share a stage with me. So
you have to have an incredible show if we are
going to rock together. Shout out to the last show
(05:43):
we did. The last show we did was with Sean Paul.
And I mean, Sean's an incredible performer, you know what
I mean. Like he's got a you know, he's got
a band, he's got dancers, he's got the whole nine yards.
But it's like if you're somebody that you just your
thing is, you're just gonna stand up and kind of
just walk around.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Or you're gonna walk.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Back in, you know what I mean, Like you're gonna
you're gonna look crazy, So you know, it is what
it is like, you know what I mean. Like me
and my crew, we're in our forties, but we're still
out jumping, out working and out rocking.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
People that are teenagers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
So to me, it's really just about the level of
excellence that you bring to those shows. And anytime you
come to a cardinal DJ set, because I've been DJing
around the world too, So whether it's a DJ set,
whether it's me performing, whatever it is, it's always gonna
be an incredible experience, you know what I mean, Because
I value that tremendously. I don't take none of that
(06:34):
for granted, you know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna
definitely come and put my foot on anybody's neck that's
trying to you know what i mean, trying to compete.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I remember that, and I also see that the new
generations aren't going to a lot of shows because of
what you just said.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It's not a performance.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You're spending a lot of money and people are working
really hard for their money, so it's really tough for UH.
If you're gonna buy a ticket, you better perform you better,
you better give that audience a performance, because one thou
thousand percent we got cardinal official on ro Timmy?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
How did Rotimmy? Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Talking about Ocean Banks because I'm not that on game
with it, so you're putting me on game on Ocean Bank.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Ocean Bank, Ocean Banks. She's dope, man, and she's a
brand new artist. Yeah, Ocean Bank. She's like, she's like
a daft punk Gorillas type scenario. You're probably never gonna
meet her, you know what I'm saying. In real life,
She's one of those people like she loves she just
lives literally lives and breathes inside the studio. But like
(07:32):
her music is, it's so fire, you know what I mean,
Like it's next level. I couldn't I convinced her because
she is like she's going back and forth on whether
or not she actually wanted to like be a front
facing artist. And you know, both me and roal Timi
are like, Yo, she sounds way too dope on that hook.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
We got to keep her on there.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, but she references it for other.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
People sometimes too good.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I won't mention any names because they are household names,
but there's been some people that have been super intimidated
when they get the demo because they're like, who is this?
I can't sing that nine? So yeah, now she's she's fired.
And then when it comes to roll Timmy man, listen.
I was a fan of his way before any of
(08:12):
his TV stuff, you know what I'm saying, the shy
power whatever, like before any of those shows. I first
discovered ro Timmy as a fan. Him and Kelsey Grammar
had a show that was called Boss and that show
was modeled after kind of what was happening in Chicago
from like a political, socio economic kind of standpoint, and
(08:34):
he had a really dope character. And I remember me
and my cousins from Chicago, We're like, AYO, like we
really like this guy as an actor. And then you know,
eventually he went on to also become a musician and
he worked with some of my friends. So we had
some mutuals and we met many moons ago. We had
done you know, a song or two before, and Ocean
Banks she wrote, you know she all the singing stuff
(08:56):
is what Ocean Banks wrote, and I was like, yo,
ro Timmy would be actually shout out to Harmony Samuels
because I played it for him.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He's like, you need to get road Tommy on this immediately.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Nice and truth be Told called him the one day,
sent it back the next day.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know what I'm saying. And that was it. It
was a rap shoutmy man.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
He's one of the most talented, most humble, super cool dudes,
you know what I mean. And it's like, we went
to Jamaica last week and we filmed the video in
Jamaica last week. So yeah, so look for that to
drop in in the within the next week.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But yeah, man, that's my guy.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
There it is man.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
We're talking about Soak, the song that just came out
while I got you on Good and introducer for the world.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Baby, all right, what is this Cardinal alafis you know
what I'm saying? All of my god DJ pop dog
get right about now. You are listening to the sexiest
song of the summer. This is Soak featuring Ocean Banks
and my homeboy Roe Timmy.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Okay, Soak great? There that is a future hit.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You want that song to be on the candy down
you got downloaded stream it requested.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Got my guy cardin on.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Actor, rapper, business guy, executive does it all Man and
continue smiling.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Bro, you look like you're in a great happy spot.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I know the world is insane right now. I know
you've been going through a lot personally. We lost three
legends this week. We just lost another one today. Do
you hear about Today's What's today? Cogan just died?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
What?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Three this week, bro, and I know one of them
you're really tight with. So I condolence this to you
and your family.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Man. Yeah, I mean, listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I tell people all the time, Malcolm Jamal Warner, he
wasn't he wasn't my best friend, but he was a
good friend.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know what I'm saying. He was whatever they say.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
About him, And I'm seeing the world not just more
in him, but just pouring how they felt about him.
Whatever you feel about him that you've seen on TV, interviews, movies, whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He was that and ten times more, you know what
I mean, behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
So just to get to know him as a friend,
you know, the extreme blessing to be able to call
him a friend was awesome. He was a stand up father.
He was an incredible son.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He really loved music, you know what I mean. He
love music. He loved hip hop and that's where we
initially even met. I had no idea, but you know,
he he's been a you know, twenty plus year fan
of mine since I dropped Fire started Volume one back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
He was just really cool and it was just for me.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It was a real honor to be able to get
to know him for that, you know, for that short time.
He was such a dope dude. Man, the world is
gonna miss him. I'm gonna miss him. So definitely, rest
in peace to Malcolm Jamal Warner for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Definitely, Man, i'saw your post man, So sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You got the song out right now? Are we're working
on a project? Are we dropping the album?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
What are we doing? Are you was worried about albums anymore?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Well, you know we're not. We're not worried about it.
But there is an EP coming out called.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Every day sometimes every day, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Every day sometimes because you know you, I think you
can relate. It's like we have the most energy and
we are the happiest dudes every day.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Sometimes you know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Saying or you know what I mean, or it's like
if you know me, you know that I'm gonna do that.
It's like I'm gonna always you know where the brightest
colors every day sometimes, you know what I'm saying. Like,
I think what it is is that everybody can relate
to it because we feel like we want to be
this person and we always want to be on and
we always want to stick to our guns and do
(12:15):
the things that we know that we should be doing,
and you know, we do do it, but then there's
those days where we just, you know what I mean,
it's not possible. It's the same way that like people
are like, yo, do you go to the gym? You're like, yeah,
every day?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Sometimes, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What I'm saying. So that's really what that's all about.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I think musically, that's how I am too, is that
sometimes you know, you'll hear a song like Soak, You'll
hear a song like Let Them Out, But then you know,
those songs are how I feel every day sometimes until
I don't. So there's a week like this week where
it's like I may want to drop some more introspective,
reflective type music, you know what I mean. So I
think for me, you know me, I'm a fun dude,
(12:53):
and I think having a fun title like that is
the best way to really like sum up where I'm
at right now, you know what.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I mean, love it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm looking forward to that, man, Cardinal Offisher Man, It's
always good talking to you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You've been and I know you go back and forth
a lot, but you got to come back out here,
meet up with the squad, and we gotta go go
grab a bite or something.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Man, it's been one yo, listen, one thousand percent.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
The funny thing is is like, right about now, I
feel like I live in the States more than I
live in Canada, you know what I mean. So I'm
always I'm always back and forth. So we are definitely
gonna make that happen. One hundred thousand percent.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Man, Let's set that up while I got you on.
Let's do something different today real quick. Let's get flowers
to somebody that you want to give flowers to right
now that.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Is around just one person, just one person right now. Yeah,
there's so.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
There's so many of them, you know, Shakazulu, David Banner, Buster,
the rhymes.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
There's been so many, you know, so many mad people.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That do Buster. Let's do let's give flowers to Buster.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Well, Buster is a Buster is an easy one, and
I'll say, let me give the flowers to Buster. Because
for people that don't know the relationship that me and
Buster have, Buster was on a famous New York radio station.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't know if he's here stationar competition, so leave
it at that.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
But I was, I was at a I was at
a very famous New York radio station.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And this is when you know, I first got my
major deal.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And somebody, you know, somebody was like, hey, Cardi, you
got a phone call. It's like you may have a
phone call. They're like, yo, Buster's been calling up while
you've been on the phone. He called like ten times.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I'm like what.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
And I get on the phone and it's Busta Rhymes
and he's like, yo, I want you to come down
the studio.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I want to meet you. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And I'm just I'm wilding out because this is, you
know what I'm saying, like a year of mine. I
was a teenager. You know, when you go and you
meet Busta, it is it's pretty much what you think.
He had on a diamond ring that was bigger than
an ice cube. He had on his chains, you know,
the whole nine yards. But why I'm giving Buster his
Flowers is not because he is a mega superstar and
(14:48):
he's rich and all the rest of it. Bus is
a friend of mine who will call me at four
a m. And I'll be sleeping.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I'm like, hello, Yo, what's good. Yo.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
I'm just letting you know. I'm listening to this joint
right now. I tell you all the time, you are
my favorite AMC. And I'm not talking about my favorite
from Canada or my favorite whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Bro, you are in my top three and you are
not number three, like you are fighting back and forth
for like number one. And Bussa is one of the
coolest like people wouldn't know, but yes, Buster is like,
you know, full of personality and energy and all that
good stuff. But similar to Malcolm, Bussa is somebody that
(15:30):
we can talk family, we can talk you know, politics,
we can talk what's going on in the world, we
can talk what's going on with music.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Listen during that.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Whole COVID and other things like trust me, Buster was
even contemplating at one point in time temporarily moving up
to Toronto. You know what I'm saying, Like, shout out
to bustter Man, because Busta has really been the big
brother to the world through his music through all these
decades since I think what ninety one Bussa is somebody
(16:00):
who he's my bro, but he's a mentor, he's an innovator.
He's still out there killing it with him in Spliff
Star and shout out to Spliff you know what I mean,
who survived. I'm pretty sure it was stomach cancer that
he had a couple of years back.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Shout out to Busta for being able.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
To sustain, and not just be able to sustain, but
he's able to thrive and he's still taking risks creatively
musically as an entrepreneur. That is somebody that I'm very
glad that we still have around in this world, both
for the music and for him as a person.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So shout out to my big bro, Buster Rhymes. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I love that right there, man, Cardinal Finishall when you
said four o'clock in the morning, So I take a
train back from New York to Boston, and there's one
that goes out at two thirty, and you know the
events ended round eleven thirty twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I always end up because he's in his studio every night,
every day every day.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So when he said, I was like, yep, I've been
there in the studio waiting for my trade.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I was like, let's go a hang.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Out with Bust maniac in the best way.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yes, every night. I think he owns the place in
the or nights he.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
May as well. Yeah right, Yo, he made yo, he
may as well. Yo.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Shout out to Bust. Nobody is out working man. And
what the other thing that people don't know is that
Buster Rhymes has the best stash, the biggest arsenal of
beats from all of your favorite producers. Nobody has more
beats in the tuck than Buster Rhymes. Right, So shout out,
shout out to Buster. I hate when I go to
studios with producers and like, oh yeah, Bust. Buster put
(17:34):
that aside fro himself. Shout out to Buster.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Though there it is Man cardon Olifishal new single is
out right now, soak with throw timmy Ocean Banks.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I appreciate you jumping on there with me.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I know you got a lot going on, but I
got I gotta give my my boy his flowers.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You know, we've been rocking for a long time.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Man, yo, And I appreciate you, Bro. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
From day one to day now, it's always been love man,
Thank you so much, and I just really love you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The dope feedback, like people have been.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Going crazy, especially the women, So shout out to the
women out there, the dudes too, but especially the women.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You know, this is just one of those songs.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's a special one man, and I'm glad that I
was able to rock with you today and get it
out to the people.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh yeah. And you know, as a DJ, especially in radio,
you you play for the women first. That's what it is.
That's what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Cut it down, Thank you, bro, Yes, sir,
Straight from Pakistan to La to Boston. Wow, I cannot believe.
I was going through my texts and my messages. With
social media, you feel like you're always connected with somebody.
But man, Cardi official, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man? What Yo? It has been a minute, bro, It's.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Crazy how long it's been since I've actually physically talked to.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You in person.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Right, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But because of social media, I'm like, I just talked
to my boy yesterday, Like that's what it feels like.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Oh man, I know, but that, you know what, I think,
that's the beauty of it. A lot of times we
look at the negative stuff, but you know that's that's
what's dope, is that we can we can stay connected
in ways that we couldn't before.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So well, you look great, man. Everything's been good.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Everything has been incredible, to be honest. I literally just
got back from Jamaica, from New York, from you know,
all over the place. Like you know, it's a it's
a blessing family on the road touring. I'm still over.
I'm still over rocking with my guys over at Deaf
jam as the Global A and R so you know,
TV like a lot, A lot of things are happening,
(01:03):
but you know what I'm saying, Like, we just released
this song featuring my homeboy wrote Timmy called Soak you
know what I'm saying the other day, and man, that
is literally taking us, taking us around the world.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's dope.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
When I saw led mom out come out, like in
the beginning of the year, I was like, oh, is
Cardi coming back with some records because I know there's
so much behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You're an actor too, but there's so much behind the
scenes that you do.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I didn't know if music was gonna be able to
fit into your your schedule, yo.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Music.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
That's the crazy thing is that like music never went anywhere.
I think what it is for me bro as for
a lot of people. I diversified my portfolio as opposed
to transitioning. Some people just give up music, like shout
out to Nori, Like, you know, Nori's one of our
our our favorite you know what I mean, our hip
one of our hip hop gods. But it's like some
people like him and they're like, ah, nah music for
(01:54):
what you know what I'm saying, But I think for me,
I don't think I have that. I don't think I
have the luxury, you know what I'm saying, of even
giving it up or stop doing it even if I
wanted to, so behind the scenes in front, like I mean,
listen over obviously. Another thing about being like an international
artist and a global MC is that the reality is that,
you know, within my country, like in Canada, it's different
(02:17):
than like representing New York or la or Boston or wherever,
because for me, I have a whole country on my back,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, I got
a star on the Walk of Fame, I got a doctorate,
I got you know, Legacy Awards, all, you know, all
this amazing stuff that's been happening in Canada. You know,
I was working with Shania Twain and Howie Mandel for
(02:39):
the past four seasons. Well Shania just joined, but I've
been working with Howie Mandel as a judge on Canada's
Got Talent for the past four season. Just a lot
of dope stuff, bro, you know what I mean. It's
my tenth year as a record exec. So a lot
of dope stuff I've been I've been working on, but
all of it always centers around music. Music has always
been the passion. And without music, you know, I don't
(03:00):
know what I'd be doing. I'd be an accountant.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, you would not cardital officials on right now.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But man, talk about obviously, you know we've known each
other for a long time. You've been a big stable,
dangerous will never go away ever ever. Ever, that like
record still tests to you know, it's like test you know,
we test records and stuff. You know how that works,
but it still comes back so strong. You were the
first that I know, or like you know, the one
that really took off globally from Toronto. And then now
(03:29):
talk about all the Canadian artists. Obviously you guys have
major kings out there now. But like, talk about that
growth on how when I did Chum Radio. I used
to mix on Chum Radio. I remember back in the
day in Canada and they said every third artist has
to be a Canadian artist.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So I'm going with this.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
At that at that time it was a little tougher
and then the explosion of Canadian artists just globally around
the world.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Talk about that. You you started that guy, Yeah, I
mean you.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Know what obviously, with the advancement technology things, exposure and
Discovery became a lot easier, you know what I'm saying.
And it's like at the time, you know, listen, I
got my deal, my first major deal in LA two
thousand and one is when I first came out, you
know what I'm saying. And it's like, by the time
(04:17):
Dangerous came along, which was I think it was eight,
that's literally when everything started exploding. Twitter or Instagram, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Social media became more of a staple in the entertainment industry.
And that is also the time, ironically, when we saw
The Weekend, we saw Drake you know, Bieber and then
you know, Alessia car after that, Daniel Caesar after that,
(04:41):
nav so many you know, so many different tories, so
many different amazing artists that come from Canada that the
world is well aware of now. But it's like, you know,
I think before it's like, you know, it's like anything else,
there's always going to be people that are gonna kick
those doors open. It's really about like you know what
I mean, once those doors are open, who's going to
take advantage of that?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Right? And I think you know, we have you know.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Jesse Rayes, so many incredible artists that are making major
impact globally right now, you know, representing from up north.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
That's amazing. Man, I have seen you working.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Your shows are energetic, and you know, with all this
stuff going on getting back on the road, are your
shows just as energetic?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Bro Listen, I don't care who you are.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I don't care who you are, Like doing shows with Busta,
doing shows with Luda Chris. The funnier thing is, like,
you know, just some of the new kids that are
just starting out, like it's not very easy to go
on after me, no matter who you are. You know,
it's not easy to share a stage with me. So
you have to have an incredible show if we are
going to rock together. Shout out to the last show
(05:43):
we did. The last show we did was with Sean Paul.
And I mean, Sean's an incredible performer, you know what
I mean. Like he's got a you know, he's got
a band, he's got dancers, he's got the whole nine yards.
But it's like if you're somebody that you just your
thing is, you're just gonna stand up and kind of
just walk around.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Or you're gonna walk.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Back in, you know what I mean, Like you're gonna
you're gonna look crazy, So you know, it is what
it is like, you know what I mean. Like me
and my crew, we're in our forties, but we're still
out jumping, out working and out rocking.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
People that are teenagers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
So to me, it's really just about the level of
excellence that you bring to those shows. And anytime you
come to a cardinal DJ set, because I've been DJing
around the world too, So whether it's a DJ set,
whether it's me performing, whatever it is, it's always gonna
be an incredible experience, you know what I mean, Because
I value that tremendously. I don't take none of that
(06:34):
for granted, you know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna
definitely come and put my foot on anybody's neck that's
trying to you know what i mean, trying to compete.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I remember that, and I also see that the new
generations aren't going to a lot of shows because of
what you just said.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It's not a performance.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You're spending a lot of money and people are working
really hard for their money, so it's really tough for UH.
If you're gonna buy a ticket, you better perform you better,
you better give that audience a performance, because one thou
thousand percent we got cardinal official on ro Timmy?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
How did Rotimmy? Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Talking about Ocean Banks because I'm not that on game
with it, so you're putting me on game on Ocean Bank.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Ocean Bank, Ocean Banks. She's dope, man, and she's a
brand new artist. Yeah, Ocean Bank. She's like, she's like
a daft punk Gorillas type scenario. You're probably never gonna
meet her, you know what I'm saying. In real life,
She's one of those people like she loves she just
lives literally lives and breathes inside the studio. But like
(07:32):
her music is, it's so fire, you know what I mean,
Like it's next level. I couldn't I convinced her because
she is like she's going back and forth on whether
or not she actually wanted to like be a front
facing artist. And you know, both me and roal Timi
are like, Yo, she sounds way too dope on that hook.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
We got to keep her on there.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, but she references it for other.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
People sometimes too good.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I won't mention any names because they are household names,
but there's been some people that have been super intimidated
when they get the demo because they're like, who is this?
I can't sing that nine? So yeah, now she's she's fired.
And then when it comes to roll Timmy man, listen.
I was a fan of his way before any of
(08:12):
his TV stuff, you know what I'm saying, the shy
power whatever, like before any of those shows. I first
discovered ro Timmy as a fan. Him and Kelsey Grammar
had a show that was called Boss and that show
was modeled after kind of what was happening in Chicago
from like a political, socio economic kind of standpoint, and
(08:34):
he had a really dope character. And I remember me
and my cousins from Chicago, We're like, AYO, like we
really like this guy as an actor. And then you know,
eventually he went on to also become a musician and
he worked with some of my friends. So we had
some mutuals and we met many moons ago. We had
done you know, a song or two before, and Ocean
Banks she wrote, you know she all the singing stuff
(08:56):
is what Ocean Banks wrote, and I was like, yo,
ro Timmy would be actually shout out to Harmony Samuels
because I played it for him.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He's like, you need to get road Tommy on this immediately.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Nice and truth be Told called him the one day,
sent it back the next day.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know what I'm saying. And that was it. It
was a rap shoutmy man.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
He's one of the most talented, most humble, super cool dudes,
you know what I mean. And it's like, we went
to Jamaica last week and we filmed the video in
Jamaica last week. So yeah, so look for that to
drop in in the within the next week.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But yeah, man, that's my guy.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
There it is man.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
We're talking about Soak, the song that just came out
while I got you on Good and introducer for the world.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Baby, all right, what is this Cardinal alafis you know
what I'm saying? All of my god DJ pop dog
get right about now. You are listening to the sexiest
song of the summer. This is Soak featuring Ocean Banks
and my homeboy Roe Timmy.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Okay, Soak great? There that is a future hit.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You want that song to be on the candy down
you got downloaded stream it requested.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Got my guy cardin on.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Actor, rapper, business guy, executive does it all Man and
continue smiling.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Bro, you look like you're in a great happy spot.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I know the world is insane right now. I know
you've been going through a lot personally. We lost three
legends this week. We just lost another one today. Do
you hear about Today's What's today? Cogan just died?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
What?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Three this week, bro, and I know one of them
you're really tight with. So I condolence this to you
and your family.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Man. Yeah, I mean, listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I tell people all the time, Malcolm Jamal Warner, he
wasn't he wasn't my best friend, but he was a
good friend.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know what I'm saying. He was whatever they say.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
About him, And I'm seeing the world not just more
in him, but just pouring how they felt about him.
Whatever you feel about him that you've seen on TV, interviews, movies, whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He was that and ten times more, you know what
I mean, behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
So just to get to know him as a friend,
you know, the extreme blessing to be able to call
him a friend was awesome. He was a stand up father.
He was an incredible son.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He really loved music, you know what I mean. He
love music. He loved hip hop and that's where we
initially even met. I had no idea, but you know,
he he's been a you know, twenty plus year fan
of mine since I dropped Fire started Volume one back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
He was just really cool and it was just for me.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It was a real honor to be able to get
to know him for that, you know, for that short time.
He was such a dope dude. Man, the world is
gonna miss him. I'm gonna miss him. So definitely, rest
in peace to Malcolm Jamal Warner for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Definitely, Man, i'saw your post man, So sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You got the song out right now? Are we're working
on a project? Are we dropping the album?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
What are we doing? Are you was worried about albums anymore?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Well, you know we're not. We're not worried about it.
But there is an EP coming out called.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Every day sometimes every day, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Every day sometimes because you know you, I think you
can relate. It's like we have the most energy and
we are the happiest dudes every day.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Sometimes you know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Saying or you know what I mean, or it's like
if you know me, you know that I'm gonna do that.
It's like I'm gonna always you know where the brightest
colors every day sometimes, you know what I'm saying. Like,
I think what it is is that everybody can relate
to it because we feel like we want to be
this person and we always want to be on and
we always want to stick to our guns and do
(12:15):
the things that we know that we should be doing,
and you know, we do do it, but then there's
those days where we just, you know what I mean,
it's not possible. It's the same way that like people
are like, yo, do you go to the gym? You're like, yeah,
every day?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Sometimes, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What I'm saying. So that's really what that's all about.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I think musically, that's how I am too, is that
sometimes you know, you'll hear a song like Soak, You'll
hear a song like Let Them Out, But then you know,
those songs are how I feel every day sometimes until
I don't. So there's a week like this week where
it's like I may want to drop some more introspective,
reflective type music, you know what I mean. So I
think for me, you know me, I'm a fun dude,
(12:53):
and I think having a fun title like that is
the best way to really like sum up where I'm
at right now, you know what.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I mean, love it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm looking forward to that, man, Cardinal Offisher Man, It's
always good talking to you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You've been and I know you go back and forth
a lot, but you got to come back out here,
meet up with the squad, and we gotta go go
grab a bite or something.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Man, it's been one yo, listen, one thousand percent.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
The funny thing is is like, right about now, I
feel like I live in the States more than I
live in Canada, you know what I mean. So I'm
always I'm always back and forth. So we are definitely
gonna make that happen. One hundred thousand percent.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Man, Let's set that up while I got you on.
Let's do something different today real quick. Let's get flowers
to somebody that you want to give flowers to right
now that.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Is around just one person, just one person right now. Yeah,
there's so.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
There's so many of them, you know, Shakazulu, David Banner, Buster,
the rhymes.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
There's been so many, you know, so many mad people.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That do Buster. Let's do let's give flowers to Buster.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Well, Buster is a Buster is an easy one, and
I'll say, let me give the flowers to Buster. Because
for people that don't know the relationship that me and
Buster have, Buster was on a famous New York radio station.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't know if he's here stationar competition, so leave
it at that.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
But I was, I was at a I was at
a very famous New York radio station.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And this is when you know, I first got my
major deal.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And somebody, you know, somebody was like, hey, Cardi, you
got a phone call. It's like you may have a
phone call. They're like, yo, Buster's been calling up while
you've been on the phone. He called like ten times.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I'm like what.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
And I get on the phone and it's Busta Rhymes
and he's like, yo, I want you to come down
the studio.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I want to meet you. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And I'm just I'm wilding out because this is, you
know what I'm saying, like a year of mine. I
was a teenager. You know, when you go and you
meet Busta, it is it's pretty much what you think.
He had on a diamond ring that was bigger than
an ice cube. He had on his chains, you know,
the whole nine yards. But why I'm giving Buster his
Flowers is not because he is a mega superstar and
(14:48):
he's rich and all the rest of it. Bus is
a friend of mine who will call me at four
a m. And I'll be sleeping.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I'm like, hello, Yo, what's good. Yo.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
I'm just letting you know. I'm listening to this joint
right now. I tell you all the time, you are
my favorite AMC. And I'm not talking about my favorite
from Canada or my favorite whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yo.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Bro, you are in my top three and you are
not number three, like you are fighting back and forth
for like number one. And Bussa is one of the
coolest like people wouldn't know, but yes, Buster is like,
you know, full of personality and energy and all that
good stuff. But similar to Malcolm, Bussa is somebody that
(15:30):
we can talk family, we can talk you know, politics,
we can talk what's going on in the world, we
can talk what's going on with music.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Listen during that.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Whole COVID and other things like trust me, Buster was
even contemplating at one point in time temporarily moving up
to Toronto. You know what I'm saying, Like, shout out
to bustter Man, because Busta has really been the big
brother to the world through his music through all these
decades since I think what ninety one Bussa is somebody
(16:00):
who he's my bro, but he's a mentor, he's an innovator.
He's still out there killing it with him in Spliff
Star and shout out to Spliff you know what I mean,
who survived. I'm pretty sure it was stomach cancer that
he had a couple of years back.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Shout out to Busta for being able.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
To sustain, and not just be able to sustain, but
he's able to thrive and he's still taking risks creatively
musically as an entrepreneur. That is somebody that I'm very
glad that we still have around in this world, both
for the music and for him as a person.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So shout out to my big bro, Buster Rhymes. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I love that right there, man, Cardinal Finishall when you
said four o'clock in the morning, So I take a
train back from New York to Boston, and there's one
that goes out at two thirty, and you know the
events ended round eleven thirty twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I always end up because he's in his studio every night,
every day every day.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So when he said, I was like, yep, I've been
there in the studio waiting for my trade.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I was like, let's go a hang.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Out with Bust maniac in the best way.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yes, every night. I think he owns the place in
the or nights he.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
May as well. Yeah right, Yo, he made yo, he
may as well. Yo.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Shout out to Bust. Nobody is out working man. And
what the other thing that people don't know is that
Buster Rhymes has the best stash, the biggest arsenal of
beats from all of your favorite producers. Nobody has more
beats in the tuck than Buster Rhymes. Right, So shout out,
shout out to Buster. I hate when I go to
studios with producers and like, oh yeah, Bust. Buster put
(17:34):
that aside fro himself. Shout out to Buster.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Though there it is Man cardon Olifishal new single is
out right now, soak with throw timmy Ocean Banks.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I appreciate you jumping on there with me.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I know you got a lot going on, but I
got I gotta give my my boy his flowers.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You know, we've been rocking for a long time.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Man, yo, And I appreciate you, Bro. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
From day one to day now, it's always been love man,
Thank you so much, and I just really love you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The dope feedback, like people have been.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Going crazy, especially the women, So shout out to the
women out there, the dudes too, but especially the women.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You know, this is just one of those songs.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's a special one man, and I'm glad that I
was able to rock with you today and get it
out to the people.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh yeah. And you know, as a DJ, especially in radio,
you you play for the women first. That's what it is.
That's what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Cut it down, Thank you, bro, Yes, sir,
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