October 13, 2025 • 18 mins
On the Jim Colbert Show Attorney "Friendly" Ray Traendly of TK Law discusses a story of a Waffle House brawl over a poor tip and the State of Florida is suing PornHub over adult-themed video games.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Jim there' zeb hello, Sappy's here as well. Oh,
every single Monday around this time, we have a better
good friend to drop by. He we took low stuff
with him. It's one firm for life. The office is
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guys give it up good loud for mister. If you
have any situation family, personal injury, estate situations, nobody in
(00:23):
the world's going to handle you better than Ray's a
really good guy and does a great job as handled
stuff for my family and I myriad times and has
killed it every single time.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I appreciate you seeing youybody. How things things are going well? Yeah,
beautiful weather outside, it's gorgeous. Uh you know, I tell
you I do you guys do these parlays where you
try to bet on multiple games and multiple things?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
No, you know what, I won't get that app because
that's just bad news for me, and I think sports
betting is just a fool's Errand.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now my buddy made like six grand a couple of
weeks ago, and I was like, I guess I got
more just because I'm just as smart as he is.
The Dallas Cowboys cost me twenty five thousand dollars this week?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Did they really what?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Twenty five thousand two dollars?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, they just had a hard parlay. You like, pick
a bunch of games in a row, and if you
win them all, it pays exponentially more each game.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Gotcha? Yeah? So, uh, the only one I didn't call
the Dallas Cowboys losing to the Carolina Panthers. I lost
two dollars. It's not a lot of money, but now
it's kind of addicted.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Is, And I picked the
Panthers against.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Them, did you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I didn't see that coming. Is.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I picked the Saints and they lost. I mean, actually, well,
well we'll get into it later because I can't ruin
the bit. We have a we have the uh Brugres
football follow up.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Saints is a close game.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, I was nervous. Ray is a personal injury
attorney here as at Beforia handling, Like we said, a
myriad of different cases. So you can always call t
K Law, get a hold of these guys one firm
for life dot com and explain your situation. I'm sure
they'll find you an answer, for sure. They do it
all the time. Absolutely what you got first today, buddy,
A little.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Bit of sex, drugs and rock and ROLLA.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's what I'm assuming happened. Did you guys see this
story out of Tallahassee from over the weekend about what
there was a Tallahassee waffle house brawl, which is not
surprising us, not at all good.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Is this a repeat of all of twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Pretty much? I feel like it's actually part of what happens.
You walk into a waffle house, sign a disclosure, you
might get into a brall. So this is one where
a waitress had a group of five people at a table.
It was about seventy eight dollars meal, which is a
pretty expensive meal waffle house. Yeah, that is they left
her a one dollar tip.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh man, that's rude. And so that is rude.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So this young waitress, I think she's twenty, she's young,
twenty three years old. She follows them out to the
parking lot and says, hey, you looked me a dollar tip,
that it's less than the costs for grits. And apparently
these patrons did not take too kindly to this, and
an argument ensued, and uh and then Ultimately, somebody gets
(03:13):
shoved and a fight that breaks out. The cooks are
coming out, everybody's coming out to try to, you know,
break this fight up.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And ber let me tell you, let me give you
a little heads up. If you're in a fight and
the waffle house cook comes out, remove yourself from that
scenario and then you're done. So, buddy, I gotta tell you,
that guy has seen some stuff that you've never even
heard about.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
He can make eggs so many different ways, and that
goes your face as well.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah's right, he's going to scramble ash burger.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh my god, dude, if somebody just said I was
a waffle house cook, I just turned to leave.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah. Yeah, So so apparently this brawl just got out
of control. The waitress ends up getting arrested as the
primary aggressor for following them outside to complain. Yeah, and
I can't think of a thing.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
That's more so, you can't confront somebody. No, you shouldn't
do words.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah with words, right, so, and that's my whole thing
right through.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
The first punt.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It doesn't matter though, right she was the aggressor. She
actually followed them out of the restaurant. It's not It's
the thing is tipping is voluntary, like you don't have
to do it at all.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Free speech allows you to go, hey, that was a
very nice buster.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I've seen or heard of somebody asking what they did
wrong to deserve only that. I've heard of that happening, Like, hey,
is there something I did to only deserve a one
dollar tip from you guys or something like that. I've
heard of that happening, but I've I think.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
She didn't approach you with as much tact as that situation.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Hey, ah, well, anything better to you know, make your
experience next time at waffle house even better?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, and I guess she did call them out for
being immature and a couple other things that she had
said during this incident, But you know, I'm kind of
right there with you. Like, does simply telling somebody that
they're a crappy person or a crappy tipper? Does that
instigate a physical altercation? I don't think so. Like the
way I look at primary aggressor is if you push me,
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you're now the primary aggressor and I get to push
you back. Yes, But if I use my words, the
response is you use words back. Sure, And there's lots
of words you can choose to describe somebody who's confronting
you over a one dollar tip, and I think that
it's all protected by free speech.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Riddle me this.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I'm using my words, but my words are now a
little bit threatening. You feel like me saying I'm going
to kill you? Is that at that point.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That's a threat?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, I was just saying that I'm now primary aggressor
with my words.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And so when you get to a point of there's
certain limitations on free speech. So for example, threatening speech
is not protected speech, especially when you have the ability
to comply. Right, So if you like have your you've
got the finger gun in your jacket. Oh is that
finger guns jacket?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You really shouldn't leave home without it. It's a Florida requirement,
thank you. But you've got the finger gun in your
jacket and you say I'm gonna shoot you if you
come any closer. Right now, you've got a threat and
you've got the appearance of a present ability to comply. Now,
I think you've escalated now to where I could then
use deadly force back right to you.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Because if you do that in a bank and you
hold the old thing like that, and you rob the bank,
don't you still get armed robbery?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, even if it's just a finger gun, they still
charge you for armed robbery because of the the uh,
the concept of the victim and what they're seeing and
expecting that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And that's not protected speech. But simply you know, me
saying you didn't pay a dollar or you gave me
a dollar for a tip, and you being immature and
and maybe you know, not not a good person, be
enough to you know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, explain this to me. What does battery then? Like,
I mean, if if so, if you and I walk
out of this building and as we're walking out, we
start talking about something and we kind of get into
a bit of an argument and we get outside and
I say something to you, what makes that battery? Like
when I use my words to the point where it
reaches that level of a communication.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So you're really talking about assault for battery. So for battery,
it's the unlawful touching of another with UH without their permission. Okay,
So it could be my favorite battery case I had.
This is a real case. I had a man who
was sitting on the couch, his wife has some take
out the trash he said, I'm a little tired, and
she threw a cup of cold water on him, not
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like freezing cold, but you know, cool water no ice
cubes in it, and uh, he called the cops and
pressed charges for battery against her.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And that's going to make sex awkward.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't I don't know how much sex is happening
after that. You know why?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Three cubes?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah? Uh got cold real fast. So so I mean
that's that's technically battery. If I if I touch you,
if I cause something to touch you against your will,
without your permission, that's battery. How about a salt assault.
What you're looking at is you're looking at the threat
of harms, so it can be used. It could be words.
It could also be through through a baseball at you
(08:05):
and I missed you, but.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
My point my work finger at you and say, look,
you stupid sea word, get back in your waffle house
or you know? Or yeah, or you you don't know
what's going to happen out of here.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now when you're throw in that, you don't know what's
going to happen out of here. I mean it gets
a little bit more specific towards a threat. But I
don't even know if that's.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Enough about spitting spinning, Yeah, yeah, of course that is.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, spitting could be a battery or assault, depending on
if you hit the person. I had a case like
that too. It was an employer employee situation, and the
employer had spittle leave his mouth and hit hit the employee.
I represented the employer, So obviously I think it was
just a mild evaporation of some moisture coming out of
his mouth, a little bit of a little bit, yeah,
(08:50):
I think so. But yeah, that he's got dismissed. We
want but uh yeah, so it has to be touching somebody,
But it has to be it has to be a
clear enough intent to harm somebody for it to qualify.
If it's just something vague like you know, we're on
the phone, I say, next time I see you, you're
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really gonna get it, right, I don't think that's enough either.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Right right right, because it is anything? What is it?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But am I going to see you again?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Now? You know exactly?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
The more specific it isn't when I see you tomorrow
in the parking at five o'clock, I'm gonna whoop your butt.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Right right. That's way different, a little bit different. H
Ray Trently with us one firm for life dot Com.
That's TK Law Offices right there, and now it's'm on
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Anything else.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I got one more story. So the state of Florida.
I think we could all agree on this. There's too
much porn and two children have exposure to too much porn.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I'm having a hard time seeing porn.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah. So apparently the state of Florida, as I think
we all know, there's this age verification laws that these
pornn companies are complying with. Wellparently. There are two adult
i'll call it themed video games that you can play online.
One is like a fighting game, kind of like a
Mortal Kombat type game with wooms with nude women. Yeah, boobs,
(10:10):
I imagine are part of that. And the other one
they didn't very well describe, and I did not search
on my work browser, but the fact that they left
it so vague makes me think that it was you know, yeah,
And and they're both of these companies are owned by
porn Hubay and so the state of Florida, the Attorney
General's Office are suing porn Hub for these video games
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that are online for violation of this age verification statue,
which interesting, Pornhub is taking the position the pass that
the statute is unconstitutionally vague and so we haven't had
a case to test it with because pornhub did put
the age verification in on their website.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Why yeah, and you have the Texas did it too.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Ye utah, So pornhubs pulled out of all those.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Things, So why why did? It's kind of interesting. Porn
Hub has plenty of money. You're not gonna run out
of money even fighting a state, right, You're not gonna
do that, right, don't Why didn't they give it a shot?
I don't understand that. Why do they automatically cave? But
I mean it's been months.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well, I think, well, for the AID verification, a couple
things and now I'm not I'm not teaching people how
to break the law, but there's a way to get
around that, sure, very easily.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I think the second thing is the price tag fifty
thousand dollars per incident. So you know, if you've got
you know, one person just looking at it a couple
times a month, that adds up pretty fast, and you
multiply that by the population of people in the state
of Florida.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Storia obviously, But what I'm saying is, I mean they
could take one of these cases and make a precedent
case out of it. That's what I thought they would
do immediately, Like when I saw this, I'm like, you
know what's gonna happen. They're gonna take one of these cases.
They're gonna make a precedent case out of it. They're
gonna go fight like crazy, and the stake can find
the hell out of them what this is going on.
And of course if they lose, bad news. But if
they win, and if they can do it constantitutionally, you know,
(12:00):
with the you know, with the backing of free speech,
and you think that the money for a plus, I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I would think there's much mon advertising money. Yeah, But
here's I think I think part of it was expecting
there to be maybe more outrage from the public, right,
you know, if there's enough political pressure within the voting
population that that would push back, And I don't think
that's happened because again, I think it's so easy to
to go around.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well. I think also, right, you have to assume that,
you know, I mean, who's gonna go. You know, that's
one of those weird things to stand up for, right,
It's one of those weird things to kind of make,
you know, to just to stand on. Hey, I'm Jim Colbert.
I'm gonna tell you right now, I got to have
my porn. Yeah, you know, it's got a weird market somewhere, absolutely,
but it's it's it don't be a promo. That's a
(12:50):
weird stance to take, like, you know, So, I mean
it's you know, I think because we know a lot
of that world happens anonymously already.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Right, So you think that there's a social shame to
supporting porn.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Hubs, Yes, publicly I think.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know, I can't think of too many professionals who
are gonna want.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
To put your driver's likes and umber in and have
that in your face and then had that hacked like that,
like that thing with what and next thing? You know,
everybody knows your you know, your your porn intake. Well,
I think I don't know if it like Jeff ash Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, that's that's not he does not like it when
you bring that one up.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Why they come up they come up over Rubens.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I had a funny story when Jeff Ashton was Judge
Ashton and he was in family court. I did have
an opposing party who called out Judge Ashton for using
Ashley Madison during the middle.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Of the trial.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh my god, during a trial.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
He wasn't a judge long was he?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Uh? Probably four years a little while. Uh, but uh,
the guy didn't like what was happening in the courtroom.
And he's like, you have nowhere to judge where his
name is judge. He's like, you have no position to
judge me. I know you are Nashally Madison. I know
you're part of that leak, and you've been cheating on
your wife. And he just kept digging deeper and deeper,
(14:12):
and I was I don't think I've ever been more
uncomfortable in my life. Yeah, I was recess. I think
he handled it really well for what it's worth, when
he was a judge. I thought he handled that situation
very well.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, because it has nothing, no impact on the case
at all, does it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, But it would make me furious. I would I'd
probably flip over her table. They'd see me all over
the news. That'd be so mad, but uh, yeah, So
I think that's the question though, is like, is if
it gets hacked, do they get to see everything you're
looking at? Because then I could definitely see that being.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
We have a We had a girl on her name
was Maria what was the last name? The spy girl?
What was her last name? Something like that, right, And
the whole thing is her dad. Her dad was a
CIA agent and a FED for a while. And so
she started a blog called you know all the Things
you wanted No a CIA spy type thing or whatever, right,
and yeah, so we had her on the show. I
(15:04):
contacted her through social and she was on the show.
Well she just did a latest video and one of
the guys was a he's an FBI agent, and they asked,
you know, she asked, what's you know? When when is
the next nuclear war or anything whatever. He says, you
won't see a nuclear war that'll ever happen, But cyber
wars are happening right now. And it's the number one
(15:25):
rising business in America is cyber attack business. And it's
the it's the number one thing. And like, if I
heard that and I was part of anything like that
at all, I would be horrified. Because obviously when the
information is that sensitive, you know, that even makes it
more like nefarious to use against you. That's what I
would be terrified. I could never be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Do you ever use like your facial recognition on your phone?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, I mean they have all that data already. Every
time you walk through the airport, they got your fish
you know, booth, Yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Our generation of Scrooge.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, it started in farm Bell Facebook.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, you're right, probably did Farmville.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I haven't heard that one in a while.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And then here like one minute because we talked. We
talked about the Mark Sanchez thing a little bit earlier.
Of course you know about that story, right, Yeah. Did
you hear what was stabbed? Did you hear what his
first statement was?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So let me ask you a question. You were attorney,
if you were this guy's attorney, right, and he made
a statement, gets down to the hospital, makes his first statement.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He has the right to remain silent, that's my first thing.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But keep going, he should shut up, right anything, So,
if he was going to make a statement, would you
advise him to or not to the first thing he
should say is you know, this was a very unfortunate incident.
I don't really have an explanation, but I really hope
that the gentleman is going to come through this. I
hope that everything's going to be okay, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right, some humility, some shame. I think all those are
good things.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Would you think that would be a good statement?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, that's not men in guilt? Yeah yeah, yeah, I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So there's no question of his guilt, right, Well.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean the other guy could have instigated it. I
don't know all the facts, but I know that he
like approached the guy in the guy's car, got mazed,
and then stabbed.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah. I mean it's not great facts, and it's on camera.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So so anything that you can do to say, like, hey, listen,
I really made a mistake. I don't know what happened.
I was out of my mind. Somebody was laced by drink.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't know, sure, right, something like that. His first
statement was he thanked first responders for saving his life,
and then.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And he's just going to focus on his record, and.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Then said he wants to focus on his seeing his wife,
seeing his kids, and he said I, I and me,
I think three times in that second sentence.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You know, that's definitely what the public does not want
to hear.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I read it and thought it was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Immediately, wife goes, I'm not surprised at.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
All the X.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
This is baby baby. Mama said, I'm not surprised this
happened at all.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I apologize. Wow, yeah, I didn't know. I did not
hear that at all. But yeah, what a bad look.
And especially because at some point you're going to be
back in Indianapolis, You've got ten years of your life
on the line. You're gonna want to look like you're
not the biggest pos in the room. And that's hard
to do when this older. Because this is a guy
like sixty or seventy.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Seventy years old, sixteen years old, sixty ninety has a
gash in his cheeks so bad that you could stick
your finger, throw it and hit his tongue. As a
matter of fact, they said his tongue was injured to
the point where he had a hard time talking. And
he's sixty nine years old. He was in a spine
brace in the hospital. You could barely under you could
barely make him out.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It'll be interesting to see how quickly this case moves
along because as an elderly person, they're entitled to expedite
a trial time, so it can move very quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Interested to see that deuld half for you heard it
here first?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well we've got all sixteen Tennessee explosion victims are idd
Tua takes on his teammates, and a pop star is
caught kissing on a young I saw that. Well, we're
going to talk about it next during You Heard It
Here First, Little break.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Can come back to a little bit more time with
Rey get Debzews get a hell out of here. On Monday,
I'm Jim there' zeb hello, Sappy's here as well. Oh,
every single Monday around this time, we have a better
good friend to drop by. He we took low stuff
with him. It's one firm for life. The office is
TK Law Offices right there now to my springs. You
guys give it up good loud for mister. If you
have any situation family, personal injury, estate situations, nobody in
(00:23):
the world's going to handle you better than Ray's a
really good guy and does a great job as handled
stuff for my family and I myriad times and has
killed it every single time.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I appreciate you seeing youybody. How things things are going well? Yeah,
beautiful weather outside, it's gorgeous. Uh you know, I tell
you I do you guys do these parlays where you
try to bet on multiple games and multiple things?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
No, you know what, I won't get that app because
that's just bad news for me, and I think sports
betting is just a fool's Errand.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now my buddy made like six grand a couple of
weeks ago, and I was like, I guess I got
more just because I'm just as smart as he is.
The Dallas Cowboys cost me twenty five thousand dollars this week?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Did they really what?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Twenty five thousand two dollars?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, they just had a hard parlay. You like, pick
a bunch of games in a row, and if you
win them all, it pays exponentially more each game.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Gotcha? Yeah? So, uh, the only one I didn't call
the Dallas Cowboys losing to the Carolina Panthers. I lost
two dollars. It's not a lot of money, but now
it's kind of addicted.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Is, And I picked the
Panthers against.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Them, did you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I didn't see that coming. Is.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I picked the Saints and they lost. I mean, actually, well,
well we'll get into it later because I can't ruin
the bit. We have a we have the uh Brugres
football follow up.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Saints is a close game.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, I was nervous. Ray is a personal injury
attorney here as at Beforia handling, Like we said, a
myriad of different cases. So you can always call t
K Law, get a hold of these guys one firm
for life dot com and explain your situation. I'm sure
they'll find you an answer, for sure. They do it
all the time. Absolutely what you got first today, buddy,
A little.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Bit of sex, drugs and rock and ROLLA.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's what I'm assuming happened. Did you guys see this
story out of Tallahassee from over the weekend about what
there was a Tallahassee waffle house brawl, which is not
surprising us, not at all good.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Is this a repeat of all of twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Pretty much? I feel like it's actually part of what happens.
You walk into a waffle house, sign a disclosure, you
might get into a brall. So this is one where
a waitress had a group of five people at a table.
It was about seventy eight dollars meal, which is a
pretty expensive meal waffle house. Yeah, that is they left
her a one dollar tip.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh man, that's rude. And so that is rude.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So this young waitress, I think she's twenty, she's young,
twenty three years old. She follows them out to the
parking lot and says, hey, you looked me a dollar tip,
that it's less than the costs for grits. And apparently
these patrons did not take too kindly to this, and
an argument ensued, and uh and then Ultimately, somebody gets
(03:13):
shoved and a fight that breaks out. The cooks are
coming out, everybody's coming out to try to, you know,
break this fight up.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And ber let me tell you, let me give you
a little heads up. If you're in a fight and
the waffle house cook comes out, remove yourself from that
scenario and then you're done. So, buddy, I gotta tell you,
that guy has seen some stuff that you've never even
heard about.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
He can make eggs so many different ways, and that
goes your face as well.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah's right, he's going to scramble ash burger.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh my god, dude, if somebody just said I was
a waffle house cook, I just turned to leave.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah. Yeah, So so apparently this brawl just got out
of control. The waitress ends up getting arrested as the
primary aggressor for following them outside to complain. Yeah, and
I can't think of a thing.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
That's more so, you can't confront somebody. No, you shouldn't
do words.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah with words, right, so, and that's my whole thing
right through.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
The first punt.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It doesn't matter though, right she was the aggressor. She
actually followed them out of the restaurant. It's not It's
the thing is tipping is voluntary, like you don't have
to do it at all.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Free speech allows you to go, hey, that was a
very nice buster.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I've seen or heard of somebody asking what they did
wrong to deserve only that. I've heard of that happening, Like, hey,
is there something I did to only deserve a one
dollar tip from you guys or something like that. I've
heard of that happening, but I've I think.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
She didn't approach you with as much tact as that situation.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Hey, ah, well, anything better to you know, make your
experience next time at waffle house even better?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, and I guess she did call them out for
being immature and a couple other things that she had
said during this incident, But you know, I'm kind of
right there with you. Like, does simply telling somebody that
they're a crappy person or a crappy tipper? Does that
instigate a physical altercation? I don't think so. Like the
way I look at primary aggressor is if you push me,
(05:07):
you're now the primary aggressor and I get to push
you back. Yes, But if I use my words, the
response is you use words back. Sure, And there's lots
of words you can choose to describe somebody who's confronting
you over a one dollar tip, and I think that
it's all protected by free speech.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Riddle me this.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I'm using my words, but my words are now a
little bit threatening. You feel like me saying I'm going
to kill you? Is that at that point.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That's a threat?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, I was just saying that I'm now primary aggressor
with my words.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And so when you get to a point of there's
certain limitations on free speech. So for example, threatening speech
is not protected speech, especially when you have the ability
to comply. Right, So if you like have your you've
got the finger gun in your jacket. Oh is that
finger guns jacket?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You really shouldn't leave home without it. It's a Florida requirement,
thank you. But you've got the finger gun in your
jacket and you say I'm gonna shoot you if you
come any closer. Right now, you've got a threat and
you've got the appearance of a present ability to comply. Now,
I think you've escalated now to where I could then
use deadly force back right to you.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Because if you do that in a bank and you
hold the old thing like that, and you rob the bank,
don't you still get armed robbery?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, even if it's just a finger gun, they still
charge you for armed robbery because of the the uh,
the concept of the victim and what they're seeing and
expecting that.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And that's not protected speech. But simply you know, me
saying you didn't pay a dollar or you gave me
a dollar for a tip, and you being immature and
and maybe you know, not not a good person, be
enough to you know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, explain this to me. What does battery then? Like,
I mean, if if so, if you and I walk
out of this building and as we're walking out, we
start talking about something and we kind of get into
a bit of an argument and we get outside and
I say something to you, what makes that battery? Like
when I use my words to the point where it
reaches that level of a communication.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So you're really talking about assault for battery. So for battery,
it's the unlawful touching of another with UH without their permission. Okay,
So it could be my favorite battery case I had.
This is a real case. I had a man who
was sitting on the couch, his wife has some take
out the trash he said, I'm a little tired, and
she threw a cup of cold water on him, not
(07:24):
like freezing cold, but you know, cool water no ice
cubes in it, and uh, he called the cops and
pressed charges for battery against her.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And that's going to make sex awkward.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't I don't know how much sex is happening
after that. You know why?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Three cubes?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah? Uh got cold real fast. So so I mean
that's that's technically battery. If I if I touch you,
if I cause something to touch you against your will,
without your permission, that's battery. How about a salt assault.
What you're looking at is you're looking at the threat
of harms, so it can be used. It could be words.
It could also be through through a baseball at you
(08:05):
and I missed you, but.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
My point my work finger at you and say, look,
you stupid sea word, get back in your waffle house
or you know? Or yeah, or you you don't know
what's going to happen out of here.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now when you're throw in that, you don't know what's
going to happen out of here. I mean it gets
a little bit more specific towards a threat. But I
don't even know if that's.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Enough about spitting spinning, Yeah, yeah, of course that is.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, spitting could be a battery or assault, depending on
if you hit the person. I had a case like
that too. It was an employer employee situation, and the
employer had spittle leave his mouth and hit hit the employee.
I represented the employer, So obviously I think it was
just a mild evaporation of some moisture coming out of
his mouth, a little bit of a little bit, yeah,
(08:50):
I think so. But yeah, that he's got dismissed. We
want but uh yeah, so it has to be touching somebody,
But it has to be it has to be a
clear enough intent to harm somebody for it to qualify.
If it's just something vague like you know, we're on
the phone, I say, next time I see you, you're
(09:11):
really gonna get it, right, I don't think that's enough either.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Right right right, because it is anything? What is it?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But am I going to see you again?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Now? You know exactly?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
The more specific it isn't when I see you tomorrow
in the parking at five o'clock, I'm gonna whoop your butt.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Right right. That's way different, a little bit different. H
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Anything else.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I got one more story. So the state of Florida.
I think we could all agree on this. There's too
much porn and two children have exposure to too much porn.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I'm having a hard time seeing porn.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah. So apparently the state of Florida, as I think
we all know, there's this age verification laws that these
pornn companies are complying with. Wellparently. There are two adult
i'll call it themed video games that you can play online.
One is like a fighting game, kind of like a
Mortal Kombat type game with wooms with nude women. Yeah, boobs,
(10:10):
I imagine are part of that. And the other one
they didn't very well describe, and I did not search
on my work browser, but the fact that they left
it so vague makes me think that it was you know, yeah,
And and they're both of these companies are owned by
porn Hubay and so the state of Florida, the Attorney
General's Office are suing porn Hub for these video games
(10:32):
that are online for violation of this age verification statue,
which interesting, Pornhub is taking the position the pass that
the statute is unconstitutionally vague and so we haven't had
a case to test it with because pornhub did put
the age verification in on their website.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Why yeah, and you have the Texas did it too.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Ye utah, So pornhubs pulled out of all those.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Things, So why why did? It's kind of interesting. Porn
Hub has plenty of money. You're not gonna run out
of money even fighting a state, right, You're not gonna
do that, right, don't Why didn't they give it a shot?
I don't understand that. Why do they automatically cave? But
I mean it's been months.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well, I think, well, for the AID verification, a couple
things and now I'm not I'm not teaching people how
to break the law, but there's a way to get
around that, sure, very easily.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I think the second thing is the price tag fifty
thousand dollars per incident. So you know, if you've got
you know, one person just looking at it a couple
times a month, that adds up pretty fast, and you
multiply that by the population of people in the state
of Florida.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Storia obviously, But what I'm saying is, I mean they
could take one of these cases and make a precedent
case out of it. That's what I thought they would
do immediately, Like when I saw this, I'm like, you
know what's gonna happen. They're gonna take one of these cases.
They're gonna make a precedent case out of it. They're
gonna go fight like crazy, and the stake can find
the hell out of them what this is going on.
And of course if they lose, bad news. But if
they win, and if they can do it constantitutionally, you know,
(12:00):
with the you know, with the backing of free speech,
and you think that the money for a plus, I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I would think there's much mon advertising money. Yeah, But
here's I think I think part of it was expecting
there to be maybe more outrage from the public, right,
you know, if there's enough political pressure within the voting
population that that would push back, And I don't think
that's happened because again, I think it's so easy to
to go around.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well. I think also, right, you have to assume that,
you know, I mean, who's gonna go. You know, that's
one of those weird things to stand up for, right,
It's one of those weird things to kind of make,
you know, to just to stand on. Hey, I'm Jim Colbert.
I'm gonna tell you right now, I got to have
my porn. Yeah, you know, it's got a weird market somewhere, absolutely,
but it's it's it don't be a promo. That's a
(12:50):
weird stance to take, like, you know, So, I mean
it's you know, I think because we know a lot
of that world happens anonymously already.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Right, So you think that there's a social shame to
supporting porn.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Hubs, Yes, publicly I think.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know, I can't think of too many professionals who
are gonna want.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
To put your driver's likes and umber in and have
that in your face and then had that hacked like that,
like that thing with what and next thing? You know,
everybody knows your you know, your your porn intake. Well,
I think I don't know if it like Jeff ash Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, that's that's not he does not like it when
you bring that one up.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Why they come up they come up over Rubens.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I had a funny story when Jeff Ashton was Judge
Ashton and he was in family court. I did have
an opposing party who called out Judge Ashton for using
Ashley Madison during the middle.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Of the trial.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh my god, during a trial.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
He wasn't a judge long was he?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Uh? Probably four years a little while. Uh, but uh,
the guy didn't like what was happening in the courtroom.
And he's like, you have nowhere to judge where his
name is judge. He's like, you have no position to
judge me. I know you are Nashally Madison. I know
you're part of that leak, and you've been cheating on
your wife. And he just kept digging deeper and deeper,
(14:12):
and I was I don't think I've ever been more
uncomfortable in my life. Yeah, I was recess. I think
he handled it really well for what it's worth, when
he was a judge. I thought he handled that situation
very well.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, because it has nothing, no impact on the case
at all, does it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, But it would make me furious. I would I'd
probably flip over her table. They'd see me all over
the news. That'd be so mad, but uh, yeah, So
I think that's the question though, is like, is if
it gets hacked, do they get to see everything you're
looking at? Because then I could definitely see that being.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
We have a We had a girl on her name
was Maria what was the last name? The spy girl?
What was her last name? Something like that, right, And
the whole thing is her dad. Her dad was a
CIA agent and a FED for a while. And so
she started a blog called you know all the Things
you wanted No a CIA spy type thing or whatever, right,
and yeah, so we had her on the show. I
(15:04):
contacted her through social and she was on the show.
Well she just did a latest video and one of
the guys was a he's an FBI agent, and they asked,
you know, she asked, what's you know? When when is
the next nuclear war or anything whatever. He says, you
won't see a nuclear war that'll ever happen, But cyber
wars are happening right now. And it's the number one
(15:25):
rising business in America is cyber attack business. And it's
the it's the number one thing. And like, if I
heard that and I was part of anything like that
at all, I would be horrified. Because obviously when the
information is that sensitive, you know, that even makes it
more like nefarious to use against you. That's what I
would be terrified. I could never be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Do you ever use like your facial recognition on your phone?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, I mean they have all that data already. Every
time you walk through the airport, they got your fish
you know, booth, Yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Our generation of Scrooge.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, it started in farm Bell Facebook.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, you're right, probably did Farmville.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I haven't heard that one in a while.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And then here like one minute because we talked. We
talked about the Mark Sanchez thing a little bit earlier.
Of course you know about that story, right, Yeah. Did
you hear what was stabbed? Did you hear what his
first statement was?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So let me ask you a question. You were attorney,
if you were this guy's attorney, right, and he made
a statement, gets down to the hospital, makes his first statement.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He has the right to remain silent, that's my first thing.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But keep going, he should shut up, right anything, So,
if he was going to make a statement, would you
advise him to or not to the first thing he
should say is you know, this was a very unfortunate incident.
I don't really have an explanation, but I really hope
that the gentleman is going to come through this. I
hope that everything's going to be okay, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right, some humility, some shame. I think all those are
good things.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Would you think that would be a good statement?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, that's not men in guilt? Yeah yeah, yeah, I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So there's no question of his guilt, right, Well.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean the other guy could have instigated it. I
don't know all the facts, but I know that he
like approached the guy in the guy's car, got mazed,
and then stabbed.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah. I mean it's not great facts, and it's on camera.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So so anything that you can do to say, like, hey, listen,
I really made a mistake. I don't know what happened.
I was out of my mind. Somebody was laced by drink.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't know, sure, right, something like that. His first
statement was he thanked first responders for saving his life,
and then.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And he's just going to focus on his record, and.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Then said he wants to focus on his seeing his wife,
seeing his kids, and he said I, I and me,
I think three times in that second sentence.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You know, that's definitely what the public does not want
to hear.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I read it and thought it was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Immediately, wife goes, I'm not surprised at.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
All the X.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
This is baby baby. Mama said, I'm not surprised this
happened at all.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I apologize. Wow, yeah, I didn't know. I did not
hear that at all. But yeah, what a bad look.
And especially because at some point you're going to be
back in Indianapolis, You've got ten years of your life
on the line. You're gonna want to look like you're
not the biggest pos in the room. And that's hard
to do when this older. Because this is a guy
like sixty or seventy.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Seventy years old, sixteen years old, sixty ninety has a
gash in his cheeks so bad that you could stick
your finger, throw it and hit his tongue. As a
matter of fact, they said his tongue was injured to
the point where he had a hard time talking. And
he's sixty nine years old. He was in a spine
brace in the hospital. You could barely under you could
barely make him out.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It'll be interesting to see how quickly this case moves
along because as an elderly person, they're entitled to expedite
a trial time, so it can move very quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Interested to see that deuld half for you heard it
here first?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well we've got all sixteen Tennessee explosion victims are idd
Tua takes on his teammates, and a pop star is
caught kissing on a young I saw that. Well, we're
going to talk about it next during You Heard It
Here First, Little break.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Can come back to a little bit more time with
Rey get Debzews get a hell out of here. On Monday,
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