The Back Story Of The Antisemetism Bill, The Cost Of Election To Congress

U.S. Rep. Kat Cammack (R-FL 3) visited with Preston and covered some fascinating ground. She explained her vote for the anti-semetism bill, as well as the truth behind how corrupt things have gotten inside the GOP when it comes to fund raising by lawmakers. 

Episode Transcript

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Yeah, our number three. Hello, ruminators near and far. Thanks so
much for making time. We appreciateit. Don't take it for granted.
Ever, He's grand. I'm Preston. It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
Great to be with you, andplease stand back with US. US
congress Woman Cat Camick, Florida's thirdcongressional district. How's the campaign going,

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Kat Well, I wouldn't know.I'm up here in Washington, d C.
Back at it again. Yeah,let's talk about that. You laughed.
Is that one of those laughs thatwe laugh when we're just trying to
keep from crying. Absolutely. Imean, I think if you look at

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the state of affairs today or whoyou are or what your job is,
it is clear that we are worseoff today than we were four years ago.
And it's just so sad how quicklythings can fall apart when you have
the resident in chief rather than atrue commander in chief. So we are
basically working to pick up the piecesand put the House and the Senate in

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a position that's going to be greatfor when President Trump gets back and we
can get right to work, becausewe will have four years if you really
think about it, only two reallywhere we can do significant work in getting
this country back on track. Howimportant is it kat that we do this

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the right way as opposed to abunch of executive orders. I mean,
I think that's what we're seeing playout right now. If you have so
many of the incredible things that PresidentTrump did, they were done via executive
order, which means it's not codified. And when it's not, meaning the
Senate and the House don't come togetherand actually make it law, then it

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just goes away because the minute thatthe administration turns over, as we have
seen, the first thing that theincoming president does if he overturns all those
executive orders, and we saw howsmug Alejandro Majorcis, the Secretary of Homeland
Security, was when he bragged aboutwe took ninety one executive orders off the
books that President Trump had had puton the books in order to secure the

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order. I mean, it's it'sthe reason why the founders envisioned Article on
the way they did where the People'sHouse had the most power, because then
it was a lasting impact. Itwas deliberate, it was thoughtful, and
it was long lasting. This fouryears eight year turnovers that we're dealing with

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it sends ripples through the industry,through our economy, through the world.
No one can plan on anything exceptfor uncertain and tee in the current system
that we have. So getting backto regular order is a very, very
big deal. The new problem thatI'm seeing come up though with the Resident
of the United States is that evenwhen issues are settled legally, i e.

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The Supreme Court student loans, Yeah, he continues to I think,
break the law and flout his authority. And we're seeing this continuation. So
how do we stop that? Imean, clearly the way to do that
is you impeach them, or youor you exsert the power of the purse.

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And at this point, the Houseis not doing what it needs to
do to exert the power of thepurse and wield the power of the purse.
And we don't have a willing partnerin the Senate because they just stop
everything. They let we'll send thingsover and then they just sit on them.
And you know, we're getting readyto go into another appropriation season.

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And I was in a meeting lastnight and we were going through some strategy
about this, and there's talk againonce again about a cr and the fact
that you have so called conservative sayingwe should do a cr makes my blood
boil. I know for sure peoplein Florida did not send their representatives to

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Washington to just put a rubber stampon Nancy Pelosi's policies and spending. I
sures Hexton and the notion that we'rejust going to see r it again is
absolutely ludicrous to me because what theydon't realize is they're saying this because they
think they're going to get a onepercent cut in there is that it actually
cuts because it's based on twenty threelevels. Twenty twenty three levels, it

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will cut defense, and it willactually increase discretionary spending. Why would in
the world would we ever give moremoney to Biden's government of doj FBI,
DOE, both coees, EPA,Oh Show. Why would we ever do
that? That makes no sense.But I think there's a sense here that
people care more about getting back tothe campaign trail and actually doing the work

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they were hired to do. Whetheryou're listening on an old radio in your
car truck or streaming on one ofthose other things, yes, even that
John Deere tractor. Thanks for joiningus. It's the morning show with Presdon
Scott's on news radio one hundred pointseven DOUBFLA or on NewsRadio DOUBFLA Panama City

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dot Com. She represents a lotof the central portion of the Sunshine State,
Florida's third congressional district. US CongresswomanKat Camick with us. She's kind
enough to make time once a monthto talk over things. Kat. I'm
I'm puzzled because I'm not convinced thatif Republicans take the House and the Senate,

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they're going to be anything but anobstructionist to President Trump, assuming he
gets re elected. There's just thisinsiders club that seems to exist. I
think Kevin McCarthy was part of it. I thought Paul Ryan was part of
it. I thought John Bayner,Mitch McConnell, they're all part of this
little club with Pelosi, Schumer andthe others. How do we break this

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cycle? Because I had high hopesfor Mike Johnson, but it just doesn't
seem like he's got the will todo what's necessary to move the pendulum the
other way. Yeah, it's sucha weird dynamic, and I now having
been here for three years, Isee that it is. It's no longer

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Republicans versus Democrats. And you know, then you take it one step further
and it's certainly a dynamic of advocatesfor big government versus little government. And
listen of the Republicans, I cantell you that there are very few of
us little government conservatives. Yeah,we have people in the so called conservative

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movement that advocate for some of thebiggest government programs ever. And I mean
it makes you you're head, Iwant to explode. If I had to
liken it to anything, it wouldbe coalition government. It almost feels like
you have three or four, maybefive factions in the Republican conference and then
you've got three or four in theDemocrat caucus. And so the question becomes,

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then how do you effectively get somethingdone in coalition government? And that's
really really difficult. And as ofcourse we've seen that this cycle, all
bets are off. You know,we're breaking records left right and center for
you know, unprecedented things happening.And I will say it makes very strange
bedfellows. You know, you startseeing where if you were to pull up

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how many the Florida's delegation, forexample, and who votes the least amount
of time with Joe Biden versus whovotes the most amount of time with Joe
Biden. I think people would beshocked I vote the least amount of time
with Joe Biden. But then there'sother people that are like, wait,
why is this person voting with JoeBiden ten twelve percent of the time,
Like it makes no sense. Andso I think you have to take it

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from the position of each vote andhow it lands. And the dynamics up
here are becoming very much a decentralizednature. And you've heard me say before,
Preston, we're living through the eraof entertainment where people up here are
more concerned about giving off the perceptionthat they're fighting than actually fighting, because

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it all comes back to I'm gonnago out there, I'm gonna fight for
you, and I'm going to usethat to raise campaign cash. Yeah,
it's disgusting how much pressure is onyou, Kat. I mean when you
first got elected. I have heardother freshman lawmakers say, and I won't
name them, but that the speakeror the majority leader or sorry, the

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minority leader at the time would almostimmediately call them in and say, now
get busy raising money. Oh yeah, without a doubt. I mean,
and if that you get up here, you are given an assessment, and
that's the actual term they use.They give you an assessment. And the
assessment is how much you owe theRepublican Party for being a part of the

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crew, right, and it's ifyou're a freshman, you owe about one
hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.If you get on a good committee you
owe four hundred and twenty five thousanddollars, and if you're in leadership,
you owe a million plus. Andwhen you say, oh, you mean
raising funds, yes, if youhave to go raise that money, and

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then you have to give that tothe NRCC, the National Republican Congressional Committee.
And if you don't, you don'tget gabbles, you don't get chairmanship,
subcommittee chairmanships, you don't get yourbills brought to the floor. It's
it is absolutely a pay to playset up, and the Democrats to do
it too. How incestuous is therelationship between the National Congressional Republican Caucus whatever

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you call it, and the partyitself. So they're in the same building,
yeah, I mean, they're allin the same building. And the
thing that's frustrating is we tend likeyou go into that building and you see

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the separation of the level. Sothe top level is the National Party,
the third floor is the Senate,the Senate side, the second floor is
the House, and then the firstfloors you know, just like meeting rooms
and whatever. And there's really nocommunication between the three levels. And when
people raise money for the party,they're not raising money for the RN's either

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raising money for the congressional side right, and so the right arm is not
talking to the left arm. Sowhat ends up happening is a growth miscalculation
of where resources need to be going. And that's something that I have repeated
said needs to be fixed, becausehow are we ever expected to win elections
if we're pumping money into one areaof the country or one race and then

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we're not doing anything in another oneand we're just missing opportunities. That's a
big problem. We also don't ballotchase. We don't, we don't we
don't follow up on ballot chasing.We let the Dems just run roughshot over
us. And that's really really frustrating, and it comes to the expense of
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US Congress Roman Cat Camick here onThe Morning Show with Preston Scott. All
Right, the anti Semitism Bill.I'm sure you've seen the criticism Cat that

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this, because of its language andwhere it got some of its guidance,
does place the Bible in the crosshairsof being considered anti Semitic. Yeah.
I mean, I've heard some ofthe criticisms about it, and I fundamentally
disagree with them. The fact ofthe matter is that this is exactly the

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same language as Trump's executive order fromwhen he was president, and people who
are being very outspoken against it,who claim to be Trump supporters are not
recognizing that they're actually speaking out againstTrump's executive order. But was that executive
order correct? I mean, youknow what I'm driving at. Yeah.

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Yeah, And just because Trump didit, you know, it doesn't mean
that it gets you know, afree pass. So I did my homework.
I actually consulted with one of theforemost constitutional lawyers who argues before the
Supreme Court often and you know,they did a full deep dive analysis on
it. And when you read thebill and this is this is what this

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is one of the reasons that Ivoted for it. One, you take
a stand. You know, hatespeech is hate speech. It doesn't mean
that, you know, you cancensor someone because they're saying something you don't
like, you know, right,I think as a constitutional conservative, we
have to fundamentally protect the Constitution atall costs. And this Act is consistent

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with the First Amendment. It saysin the bill, nothing in the fact
or an amendment made by this Actshall be construed to diminish or infringe upon
any rights protected under the First Amendment. And absolutely people have the right to
free speech. The minute that youbegin infringing on someone else's rights is where

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yours end. That's why we havecriminal laws. Right the minute that you
start beating the ever living crap outof someone that is not protected right,
that's not constitutionally protected right. Andso the fact that it has language in
there that reaffirms that the Constitution isabsolute, that nothing in the Act could
be construed to override the First Amendment. And furthermore, goes on to say

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that that saving the savings clause statesa tourism right, that no statute can
diminish a constitutional right. You goon to think about, has there ever
been a statue that has trumped theconstitution. No, the Constitution always trumps
a statute. So we we weretalking about this in the first segment,

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presson about how the courts right,the courts will make a ruling if this
were ever to come to pass,which we're living in crazy times right where
someone said I'm going to sue underthis ass under this statute, and it
made it all its way, allthe way to the Supreme Court. Without
a doubt, I think you'd geta nine oz ruling that it does not

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because it is absolutely defined in thelanguage of the bill itself. And keep
in mind, I serve with alot of people who don't read the bills,
like they absolutely don't read the bills. Bless their hearts that you know,
it's just it's a frustrating thing ofbeing up here. But no,
nothing in the Act can override theConstitution. And so let me ask you

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this and let me let me finishthis. So I heard from a colleague
who we were debating this and Hesaid, well, you know this is
going to give people, This isgoing to give the government an expansion of
powers. I said, no,it doesn't. It actually gives the court
an ability if it is and thisis and this is strictly under Title six,
so this is under education. Right, So we're looking at this through

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the lens of these universities are saying, well, there's nothing we can do.
We don't have anything that we cansink our teeth into to protect our
Jewish students on campus, or anystudents for that matter. Right, this
is really just giving the courts anability you smack down on college campuses,
all of the things that are happening. That is nothing to do with people

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in churches. And the notion thatthis is somehow making the Bible illegal.
Listen, I recognize that there is. And you heard me say it again
a thousand times. Entertainment. Nothinggets people more riled up than on social
media somebody saying, oh, theBible is now illegal according to the House
representative. That is such bs.I almost said it all the whole way

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through, so I cleaned it upfor you. See, it's a future
some button. But that is suchnonsense, absolute nonsense, and it's just
a scheme to get people to clickon your stupid link and then they'll ask
you for money. And it's justthe entertainment outrage that these people have found
such a glory and objecting to everylittle thing there's not glory, and watching

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your country go down the drain becauseyou're more focused on raising money for your
organization or your campaign. Get outof here with that nonsense. All right,
We're gonna have to leave it there, Kat, thanks very much.
We'll talk again next month. Appreciateyou. Thank you, all right,
Kat cam At, US congresswoman fromthe third Congressional District here in the Morning
Show with Preston Scott