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October 14, 2025 • 38 mins
TUESDAY HR 1 Ryan takes a L after last nights football games. Russ doesn't like to lose money in bets. How do we break free of the algorithm? Still stopping to look at the rockets.

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Speaker 5 (02:30):
You're canceled brow would you say?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Four oh seven?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
On Fox thirty five they had a baseball game. So
we're getting ready for the World Series or whatever. So
there was a baseball game on Monday, which may probably
because it was Columbus Days?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Angel Do they normally do like playoff games on regular days?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
They do that, don't do they wait for the weekend?

Speaker 6 (02:50):
No, they do it. Yeah, they do it through the
through the week.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
But probably the middle of a Monday like that though.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
Yeah, Well it was a federal holiday, so it's probably
taking advantage of getting more gas on Tvah, what I'm saying,
and so and then whatever city, whatever game was on there.
That was probably a huge deal that people could go
to a game in the middle of the day. Most
people enjoy that. Yeah, if you live in a baseball
town and you have a chance to go to mid
afternoon game, everyone's going to take advantage of that.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
They interrupted national programming on Fox for the for the playoff.

Speaker 7 (03:20):
Ticks some butterfly effect nonsense. You ever think about it
like that? Were like because Columbus decided to sail across
the world and accidentally find the Caribbean. Rush Rollins camp
be on TV in twenty twenty.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Five thinking about that, Yeah, I ever thought about that?

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Now, Travis fly effect man.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Absolute travesty. I'll be back on there on Thursday, though,
So that that's kind of cool, man, you know. And
now I enjoy the fact that, you know, I don't
put any money in it, but I enjoy knowing what
Ryan is betting you.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Sounds a bit of.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Scrutiny and then looking for I know, I told you
to bet on the Bears, I told you not to
bet on the Commodore. If you bet exactly opposite of what.

Speaker 7 (03:57):
I say, you know, I can get riled up. I
told you, guys, these are two games I would never
normally bet on.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
You did say that, and I was like, I'm not
going to have and then.

Speaker 7 (04:07):
You guys hike me up and then get me going,
and then you're like, yeah, do it, do it. I'm like, yeah,
I'm going to do it, just like if you chant
my name, I'm going to do something.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's the fun of it all.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
I don't like it. It's taking advantage of people.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
And it's all the Bears one. I'm like, oh my god.
And then the Commodore is long point.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Yeah, the Commodore was lost to the Bears by one point.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Was okay? What was the other game?

Speaker 6 (04:27):
The Bills?

Speaker 7 (04:28):
The Bill Bill farce of a team got destroyed by
I told you, I told you guys this, I would
normally win it. Bet against this game because Atlanta is
a scrappy ass team did kind of don't know what
they're going to do at any given moment.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
So why didn't you bet?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Michael Pennix Junior is stepping into it, into his uh
spot man.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
He went for for the Falcons then two.

Speaker 7 (04:51):
Yards and one touchdown, because still the smart money was
the Bills.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
I got a friend that drove up there because he's
it's such a bill of maniac and he drove up
for the game, and they got Clawbard, right.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
They did fourteen twenty four, And uh yeah, So I
don't like betting on things that I don't know about them,
you know what I mean, Like, I'm not that familiar
with the NFC North, even though I'm supposed to be
a Vikings fan sort of. Yeah, and then the Bills,
I'm like, what a bs garbage team they have turned
out to be.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
We thought they were gonna be a powerhouse right up
the gate.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, I thought the Bills were.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Getting beat by these teams left and right.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
So yeah, I shouldn't have bet on these and I
and and I shouldn't have bet the amount of money
that have bet because like, God, greedy.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
How much did you bet?

Speaker 5 (05:33):
I'm back to zero?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Oh you bet eleven hundred?

Speaker 7 (05:35):
No, I bet the difference. So it was like the
three hundred that I was up been good and it
was only for six hundred, Like but even that two
game parlay only what it only gave me, like, you know,
one hundred percent odds.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
So you bet three hundred dollars.

Speaker 7 (05:50):
I would have got six, got six, I lost three hundred,
but because I won the eleven hundred, I'm back at zero,
which is in gambling world, wins.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Man gambling, I don't know, man, And you have fun
doing it, like when you look like I said, I
didn't have fun. People are texting me last night.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Football.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's the thing with gambling.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
The thing with gambling is is that the hurt of
losing to me is greater than the thrill of winning.
That's why I don't like the game. I like it
hurts too much to lose like that.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
But the winning far feels so much better than the losing.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
I don't think so it does, though.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
It doesn't for me.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Everybody's different, right so for you, that thrill of the
wind is infinitely better than the horror you feel right now.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Don't you feel stupid right now?

Speaker 7 (06:39):
No? I don't because I look at it like this,
like I'm I'm just like in my life now there's
no new milestone.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
And just got my house, and I got.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
My wife, I got my dog, my job, everything every
day is just the same day and I feel nothing.
But when I gamble, I feel a lot. You should,
you should together at least emotion.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
I've seen you. You should think you're lucky stars. Every
single day that you're even in the same.

Speaker 7 (07:04):
Room with her gets boring, right, Everything that's just life
and how it works.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Oh yeah, well, you know, my wife is amazing. I
love her. I think she's fantastic. But it's gonna be
just another Thursday tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Co she says the cokidman she got left but for
a for a bass player exactly. That's a good point.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
People need to do things to feel live.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
There's a reason why some people climb mountains and some
people go parachuting.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
This is my thing.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I think.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
The hurt of losing money and they're like, oh, how
stupid I feel whenever lose money is worse than the
thrill if I win.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
If I win, I'm like, oh, yeah, I should have won.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
You know, but you ever won big money before?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Though? Well? Yeah, and the lottery. I want you I
a lottery.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, well, you're supposed to get six, right, and if
you get six, you're a millionaire. I got five and
there was one number off. I was supposed to be
like a twenty seven, and I got twenty six, and
I'm like, okay, Well at least I got five numbers,
I'm gonna win something.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I went, I went down to the office or whatever.
I'm thinking, well, okay, I'm gonna get half a million
and something like that. It was like eighteen hundred bucks
big money. I was pissed.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
No, I'm talking big, that's not big.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
No.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
What I'm saying is I was one digit away from
having big money, eighteen hundred bucks until.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
The moment you found out that you had eighteen hundred bucks.
That wasn't the most exhilarating feeling in your whole entire life.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
And it was so depressing to find out that it
wasn't the case. No, but you didn't lose though, eighteen
hundred till laugh at Yeah, it didn't feel good.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Yeah, okay, you're you're weird.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I'm we're waiting.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
I thought I had millions and I only had eighteen hundred.
I was man as well about it, so I stopped
playing a lottery.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
You're still up though. That is my knock, Yeah, the
feelings I'm talking.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
To be honest, that's my knock with the power ball,
And that's why I don't normally do it, even though
it's a gambling thing, because if you get five numbers
of the power ball, like it was a billion.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Dollars the other day, but if you got five numbers,
it was a million.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
I went on one of the Monsters, one of the Monster cruises,
and I had a really good run at Roulette, thinking,
oh my god, I have figured out Roulette. Every time
I go, I'm gonna play relettcause I obviously I know
how to win. I won like three thousand dollars. I mean,
this is easy. Well let's just say, you know, obviously
I've got the feel. Next cruise I go on, I
probably lost more than so that feeling of losing was

(09:16):
much worse than that feeling of expecting to win, because
you know, I tend to win at things, and so
I was like, well, yeah, I'm supposed to win, and
then when I lose, it hurts more.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Yeah, I see what he's doing there. What so No, No,
And it's and it's a common trait. It's, uh what
Russ goes into any of these situations. He's expecting to win. Correct,
you know what I'm saying. It's not a hope, it's
not it's not a in your in his mind, it's
not a gamble.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
No, it's a for sure thing. Yeah, that's why I
just don't do it. I'm like, well, I realize it's
not a for sure thing. Yeah, you could lose, and
that losing hurts.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
See, I've never lost.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
I never lost big money because when I do gamble,
I quote unquote gamble responsibly. Right, Like, so like if
I if I go to the casino, I bring a
special amount of cash with me. Yeah, and if I
lose all that cash that's like built into like the costs, right,
I won't bring a debit card with me so I
can get more money.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
I've never like gambled so well, like I've ruined my life.
I'm sure that would hurt.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
There's like a level of responsible gambling that one can do.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I didn't. I guess what I'm just saying is.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
But when you win that big money, it's so much fun.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
When you lose though, it's.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Not fun, No, it's not fun.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
When you lose, you do feel alive in a different
kind of way. But when you win like free money,
Like when you have money and you're just like, look
at all this extra money that you wasn't built in,
you didn't expect it, and you can just kind of
go nuts.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
For a minute.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Oh it's the best way to feel live.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And then two days later you bet it and you
lose it all.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
Sure, it's not a good financial plan for your life,
but if you have disposable income and you like to
do something, you can do a responsibility.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
I don't see a problem.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
This might not make sense to you, but I get
as much fun watching you win and lose as I
did with with it with my own I'd.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Rather watch you do it. Oh good, because.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
I've got no skin in the games that I can
watch your emotional highs and emotional lows and it tickles
me pink.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Well for me, it also makes sports way more interesting
because I mean, I like sports, but there's people that
love sports like sports, you know, and it gives me
something to care about a little bit more. But then,
the negative side with sports betting is if, especially if
it's somebody else's team that you know, and they're texting
you all evening long, be telling you what a deuce
you are and how stupid you are for betting against

(11:30):
their team. No, not several people. I got more texts
last night. I didn't even guys, I fell asleep. I
didn't watch the game, so I woke up without even
having to look it up this morning. I looked at
my you know, twenty five texts.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
I gotta tell you, man, the one thing I've told
you guys with me with sports is I like rooting
for a person, right like that the athlete. If the
athlete moves to another team, I can do that because
I don't I don't understand having, you know, allegiance to
an organization just because they're in a city and they
have a particular logo.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I don't understand that.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
The players that I appreciate, their their struggle and I
like the way they act and all that kind of stuff,
and that's what I can get behind. But I got
to say a human interest for human interest. For a
long time, I've been behind TUA.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
But damn man, he got up after the last game
and said, some of the dumbest things have you seen
you in?

Speaker 5 (12:19):
This leg had nineteen concussions. Man, Brainy Worton.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Goes, he's saying stuff about the team, you know, and
without going to them first, you know, talking about them
not coming to practice.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Yeah, but that was a postgame interview. He got asked
the question and he answered it.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
But he also he said Krimineg himself.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
He also said something about the potato cheat, the potato
chip eating fans that can't do what I do. He's
just he's saying, he's saying things he shouldn't say when
you're losing like that. He needs a little bit a
little more humble.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
He's on top.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
I disagree with you in that regard, and I have
nothing invested in this, but that kid won that game
and this defense turned around and lost it. He he did,
He had his leaders. One of them was one of
them was Waddle's fault. The one was Wattle's fault. The
other one didn't ended up not mattering. He's the one
that does the charge, goes eight for ten or ten
for ten on that last draft, that scores and puts

(13:12):
them up your defense. All they had to do was
tackle a guy, make one tackle and they win that game.
So so you got a quarterback up there that's like,
damn that. That could have been a signature win for
me and they just gave it away. And it's guys
that didn't show up for meetings on time, stuff like that.
And he included himself in that, Like I would think
you would kind of respect that in the sense that

(13:33):
he's like calling them himself out as well.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
In the clips that I saw, I did not see
the entirety of the interview, So I will admit that
right in the clips that I saw, the way it
was cut up and put on social media and made
him look like adude, he's like, dude, you are You're
the captain the team and you and you you know,
I got need to.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Be a little more.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
He's getting he's getting cooked right now. And these are
by fan No by fans are like, but you gotta
understand what this is and that energy. Understandere that energy
is coming from dude. Miami fans right now they want
to fire everybody day. They want to get rid of
the coach, they want to get rid of McDaniel, and
they want to get rid of the GM too. Right now, No,
the quarterback, the coach, and the GM. If they could

(14:12):
fire all three of those guys today, they would.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, they're they're scorching to And I've just seen the
clips of the things he said. I'm like, well that now,
maybe it was out of context, So you know, I
see what you're saying, Angel, But when you've lost like that,
you probably shouldn't go at the potato chip eating fans
that can't do what I do.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I think.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
I mean, like, obviously, you're right, that's not the worst
thing that's been said to fans.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Come on, I know, but he's not in the place
right now to do that, right Like, I.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
Think if you see the whole postgame interview and it's
entire and then you'll see that that was like the
like the tough I thought the stuff that was more critical. Again,
it's him being critical on the organization, on the leadership,
on the coaching and everything. And again in uh, not
my team, not my argument, but he had won that
game and his defense let him down, and so that's

(15:02):
you're seeing a guy in a post game uh, but
just frustrated. And I think those guys are allowed to
be frustrated in those circumstances.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
I wonder if they give them coaching though, Angel when
it comes to talking to the media, because you know
it it play. You know, the fans are paying the ticket,
and the fans from what I understand from what it
was reporting, it wasn't a sellout, like they're not selling tickets.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
They're not selling tickets.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Anymore, and they're losing and they're now five and one
or one and five. Sorry, they wear around they're one
and five, so you at least want to stay you know,
cool with the fans. And they're hopefully sell a couple
of tickets. I don't know, man, they're they're really struggling
right now. But all right, listen, it is a Tuesday today,
it's corn dog. We got corn dog wine tasted, So

(15:47):
we just figured out a way to get Chef Ken
to make us corn dogs.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
So we got that coming up a little bit. Well,
I don't know. I think they are gourmet corn dogs.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
And then the Wine Diva has four different wines for
us to pair with the corn dogs to make this
an official classy event.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
She can wear that same dress again, probably one of them.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
That's her gimmick, right, you know, I realized that I
like people who seem like cartoon characters, right, Like Amberhova
is a cartoon character. She's got a gimmick. She gotta think,
same thing with the Wine Demon. She wears the same dresses.
She loves wine. She's a little quirky. I like people that,
you know, stand out like cartoon characters, and she's a
little cartoon character.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay, she wears the same costume.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
Right, she's telling me she has multiple of that dress.
But I'm ninety percent.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Dress Lily Merline or something like that, or really, I
don't know, some kind of dress.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, she got she got a gimmick, and I like
a good gimmick. Chef Ken his gimmick is he makes
us food.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Great gimmick.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's a good gimmick.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
Tim Leesburg Chicken Man the greatest Gimmicks and Radio Teal.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Piper schedule to come in today. So we got a
bunch of stuff going on. Don't go anywhere. You're listening
to the Matras the morning. So welcome back to the
Monsters in the Morning on Reverteo one on four point

(17:08):
one Brocast and.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Live an iHeartRadio.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
I am Russ Rowlins along with Angel Rivera.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And Ryan Holmes.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
On Thursday, we're gonna be out of Daytona Harley Davidson
at kick off by October Fest.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Looking forward to that. If you want to come.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
See us do the show live, we'd love to see
you out there. Texting service weighing in this morning. You
can always text us at seven seven zero three to one.
I was just talking about Tua and I want to
bring up something that the angel said that is interesting
because something else applies to that. But a listener says, hey,
I'm a Dolphin fan. Last year, I went to a
home game, I went to two days worth of training camp.

(17:42):
This past summer, I have Dolphin app on my phone
and Saturday, someone from the from the Dolphins office called
me and offered me six free tickets to attend the game.
Said he couldn't go, but man, imagine how bad things
have to be if they're just calling random people and
offered them free tickets to go to the games.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
And that was part of this.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
You can see that, Yeah, you can see the like
when they do the crowd shots. Yeah, attendants is following.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah, when you're losing and you're looking bad, you know,
and that, of course, that is a part of the frustration.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I guess, you know, the quarterbacks they do.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
An interview postgame interview, and I guess they have to
talk to they have to talk to the press. I'm
curious if they give them, if they give them any
kind of coaching on like, hey.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
There's the way you should proat to handle this.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
And it didn't look like it looks like he's just
saying whatever he wants to say, And Angel brought up
something that is a very valid point in this in
these in these day and times, with everything right, well,
did you see the whole interview or did you see
just clips? And that could go with anybody or anything, right,
anything we see you see a couple of clips of
something like, oh my god, this person has an ass,

(18:43):
you know, whether it's a politician, whether it's an actress,
whether it's you know, like a rock star or whatever
it is. If you see clips, is it different normally?
Do you think is it different than the entirety of
the interview? Like even even with the podcast, you hear
a couple clips from a podcast, the.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Other guy sounds like an ass, But.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
If you hear the whole thing, oh okay, Well, what
he was talking about is reference to this other thing
that he said that we didn't get to see.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
So do you think, uh.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
That's part of the problem that we have in society
today is because everything is like you know, a real right,
it's it's a clip on uh, you know, on social
media really quick and you didn't see the whole thing.
How much do you think that is the problem with
with America in general right now?

Speaker 6 (19:29):
That's everything right now. I mean, that's that's that's a
huge part of it. Everybody wants these micro condensed little
bits of information that confirmed their their biases already. Yeah,
and no one wants nobody wants to take the extra
step to hear the whole thing, to look it up
for themselves. Yeah, we give so many people the you
know that power of Oh it's on YouTube. Oh, it's

(19:52):
on TikTok, Oh, it's on this it has to be real.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, I saw him say this, and now you can't
even trust that. We learned that.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
You now can't trust if you see somebody say something
like well I heard him say that.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
That can be deep faked. It can be a person doing.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
As I saw the AI, the AI technology that's out
that I could make that happen. So for whatever reasons
right now, nobody like nobody wants to take that extra
step and just follow.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Again, Well, if there's.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
A new launch in the story, then put the new
aunch in the headline.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
But you know what you're just say you you are
so right. I don't really want to go watch the
entire interview with Tua.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Like I saw the little clip, I saw what he said.
I'm like, oh, you can be in an ass.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
So but do I want to go back and watch
the whole thing to give him? But if I don't
really want to, I I got things to do.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I'm busy, you know.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
So I saw what I saw, and now I got
an opinion, and now I'm going to run with it,
and and he could have You're right, say, it really
does bring up a really really good point. And it
doesn't matter what it is or who it is. And
I guess if you really care about the person that
you're you're you're watching and they've said something that really
bothers you, it would make sense to go and watch
the whole But that takes time.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
Yeah, I mean, like this this just happened, not to
make it political, but this is going to I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
To That's that's where I was going as well.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
So this happened with old P. D.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
Hag Seth right where he goes on and he talks about, hey,
we're making this deal with Qatar, blah blah blah. The
headlines come out that said, like a Katari air base
is going to be established in the United States, And
that's what he's saying, And that's.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
Not exactly what he said if you go back and listen, Okay,
but yet he misspoke and he didn't want to correct
his because if you go back and listen to the whole.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
Presence, you're saying is that's but that's not what was happening.
And because he misspoke, people run with that headline. Now
I got people like freaking out on my Facebook, and
then I have to go and look and then like
and find out what's going on, because I'm first like
for me to I'm like, oh wait, that that is weird.
What the hell are we doing? And then you got
to go and read it. But it is because he misspoke.
But it's one hundred percent because we just look at headlines,

(21:53):
especially on Facebook if we're scrolling our phone, no one
actually ever clicks the story and then reads through. Oh
reading is the worst, right, but it takes more time.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
Right, And then you tell somebody, hey, well actually, if
you don't want to do that, then go to ap
right that that's a journalism site. They they will fact
check everything. It's unbiased, that this is what they do.
They're about freedom of speech.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Whatever.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
Yeah, no, not interesting.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Snopes get the most helpful with that because at least Snopes.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
You could type it in fast and it'll show you
a quick graphic. It'll go like true, not true or
mostly true or whatever, and.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'll give you I like, I'll give you a great
example of that. And this is something we live to here, right.
So I'm a Caitlin Clark fan.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Okay. So in all my feeds and everything I saw,
and I was arguing with Angel all my feeds, it
was like, the numbers are down, the numbers are down.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
She's not playing. The numbers are down. I'm like, well,
I see this every day. The numbers are down. When
they had the final game, they did all and they
were showing, you know, this is the final, the finals,
and it was the whole thing where they were showing
the commissioner being booed and everything in that article. They
were like, and this year numbers were up for the
w n B A And I'm like, well, for God's
sakes and everything, I saw, every clip, I saw, everything

(22:56):
that was fed to me in my brain on my
thing was umbers are down because Kaylen and Clark is
not playing. That was the information I was And so
that's what I was arguing with you about him.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I see it every day. What the hell are you
talking about?

Speaker 4 (23:08):
And then the very last, you know, the very last game,
they show the numbers and yeah, w n w A,
all the numbers were up for the for the entire league,
not for the U in the end of fevers and uh,
and we're in this little bubble, and in the bubble
it's these little clips, and in these little clips, it's
not the entirety of the interview or the entirety of

(23:29):
what someone says. So then you great, I now have
an opinion on Tua on these little clips that I saw,
and now I'm pissed at him, right, And so probably
that's what somebody wants, is for me to be pissed
at us so they get rid of the guy.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Right, think about this is right. All you have to
do is click on one or two of these clips
that slant that story that way, and guess what this
algorithm is gonna do.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
That's all it shows me.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
It's going to give you an avalanche of just.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Not the other side, just the side that because that
confirms what I was paying attention.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
And the reason it does that is, like you just
nailed it. The reason the algorithm does that, the algorithm
doesn't take into nuance algorithm doesn't take anything. All the
algorithm is designed to do is you'll watch this for
a long time. Here, Yeah he watched this. Oh he
watched this for the whole minute. He wants to hear this.
Watch this.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah, we're gonna give him all of it.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Is she the only person?

Speaker 5 (24:27):
It's crazy?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
How do it?

Speaker 5 (24:28):
It'll do it after like one video too, because well.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
I don't don't click on a boot video.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
No, but like I know this because like I saw
one video of a flight a fight at Slamfest in
Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, just one video.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
I was just like, what is this video?

Speaker 7 (24:43):
And then I started getting slammed car material, uh NonStop,
and I'm.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Like wow, And that's why I don't click on videos.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
Like people will send me stuff and I'm like, if
I click on this, it'll throw off my whole algorithm.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
I don't want that in my life.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
And now I got, right now, my algorithms full of
this lady named you sing songs about car engines all
the time. She's a lady in Thailand, and she sings
very badly, but she's very pretty and she's like.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
She's like coming through my engine back a tree.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
So funny and you see it.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Right one and I got fifty four taties.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I got the same thing.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
I guess a little girl Lily. She's a redhead, and
she tells you stupid jokes and I'm like, I hate her.
I'm like, I can't stand Lily.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
And Lily keeps popping up and popping up.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Click.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I'm so mad at I'm.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Like, why are you showing she's in like a baiting
suit or whatever, and you can almost see everything.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
And I'm like, why have I got Lily video?

Speaker 4 (25:32):
And and and it's it's kiss and it's Batman and
it's uh, you know, uh, it's crazy how you get
stuck in the and and that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
It's the dopamine, right.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
It knows that you you like watching this, so it
feeds you all of that and then nothing else.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
We need to treat this like the drug that it
is and sort of regulate algorithms, not free speech, just
these algorithms that are designed to trick our brain into
doing things in the same way the gambling day.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Those conversations.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
It does that to you because it wants you to
be on there longer. It's like, we want you to
be there longer, So we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Show you what you like.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
If it starts showing you stuff you don't like, it
knows you're gonna flip flip it off.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
But it's also weird too because whatever Facebook has done
recently where it refreshes very fast if you jump out
of it. So I'll get an argument with somebody in
the chat, in the comments, and they'll go they'll say something.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
I'm like, I gotta fact check that.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
That can't be real, and I'll go fact check it,
and then I'll go back and it'll have refreshed and gone,
I'm like, I don't even remember what I was mad
about anymore.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it shows.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Me something new to be mad.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
How do you have those kind of conversations?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Though?

Speaker 6 (26:38):
How do you have those like that? That and nextcept
of conversation when you know that these tech companies are
out there, they're like.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
Can't They're they're literally the oligarchy now and they control everything.
They're in with every bit of every form of government,
all the branches, and they're they're they're there to control
us now and we just have to accept it.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
The argument is, their argument is it's a business, and
in this business we want people to continue to to play,
just like we.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
Don't let meth be a business, you know, because it's
harmful to society.

Speaker 6 (27:04):
We have a whole war on drugs. RUSS.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
That's true, something is harmful to society.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
But this is a new This is a new issue,
a new problem that we've never faced before in the
in the history of the world.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
I think if I think social media could be a thing,
if you go back to like the MySpace style or
the original Facebook style, where it's just like, hey, these
your friends, they want to see them.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Cool, here's some ads while you do it. Not this.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
We shouldn't allow the algorithms to take to control us.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Ever, that seems insane.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Think about that. When when it all came first started,
it was all very hopeful.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
It was like, oh, look, we all are friends, we
all can be friends together. We all can it's a community.
Almost anything can be turned into a weapon. You know,
it really is crazy, But you know, when I first started,
it was like, oh my god, all my friends can
we all can be together. Now it's like, we're only
going to feed you what you believe, and we're gonna
really double down whether what you believe is right or not.

(27:57):
We're gonna double down on it and just keep showing
you what you want to hear.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
Social media was like going to a bar at eight
o'clock when it first started, right, You're you're there, you're
hanging out, everybody's peaceful, you're enjoying dinner, you're having a
couple of drinks.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
At now we're at one o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
Social media, where the guy next you start saying racist
stuff and you're like, oh no, so it's a it's
it's it is a failed experiment. All humans are not
meant to talk to all humans. I fully believe that now.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
And there are people that still don't understand that their
Facebook or their Instagram or TikTok, whatever you their feed
is different than someone else. They don't want it. They
think everyone's the same. I just popped mine open right now.
There's a Ace Freely about kiss. There's something there about
uh well, there's Anne Russo because she's coming on today.
There's something here Eddie Trunk about rock and roll. Here's

(28:45):
something about the dolphins, a Batman story.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
So all the stuff is just stuff I like.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
And that's the Facebook and there's aba Elfy again, but
just stuff I like just pops up. Uh, and that's
all I'm gonna see. I'm in that bubble thinking that's
what the world is into.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
But it's not true. It's not true. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 7 (29:06):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
And a lot of people aren't realizing that.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Now.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
The wrestling thing, uh, you know professional wrestling. Uh, it's
it's another kiss thing, you know, Godzilla.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Like, that's all the stuff I see.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
And I'm sure none of you guys had any of
those things on yours right?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Like, what is yours right now? Angel? Right now?

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Mine is a trailer for some Disney thing. Okay, c
x MASA forum that I'm in asking what the worst
maintenance issue is? Okay, what do we got here?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (29:39):
A winter park doctor?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh, the crazy doctor. They found her drunk? Oh I
got that one.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Yeah, and then she was so drunk she couldn't stand
snl and oh and then a bunch of Mark Maroon's
last episode.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I watched it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Oh, actually a way to work this morning. I listened
to the whole thing. It was amazing.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
I miss that guy a couple of clubs yesterday and
I was like, okay.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, he was so smart. Anyway, what's yours look?

Speaker 5 (30:08):
Like right, just open it up, right out the gate.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
I got the Space Coast Rocket, which I don't even follow,
but I am Rocket Ryan.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah that was last night. I actually tried to go
watch it last night and you can't see it from
my house.

Speaker 7 (30:20):
But this one's a page that talks about Operation skin
So Soft, where twenty one individuals at twelve different Asian
massage parlors were arrested on prostitution. Okay, something about Ambernova, Okay,
something about a lady having a house party getting arrested, and.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Just yeah, bad comedy flyers.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
It's not any like my main feet isn't people I
know anymore, right, it's just garbage and people I understand,
Like people yelled at the last time I'm talking about
you could hit the friends thing. The problem with just
going to friends is it's chronologically listed, and it's not
like the people I like the most right, And I'm
not setting people as favorites. I'm just not gonna do no.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
No.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
I feel like they'll find out, oh really like and.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Then I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I I got some favorites.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
I don't want some people to know that their favorites
and some people to think that why am I not
a favorite, you know.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
What I mean.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Oh, I'm thinking about just deleting Facebook altogether.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Though now I use them. I use it a lot.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
I mean, I use it l like, but you just
have to realize the little clips that you see might
not be the entirety of the interview, might not be
the entirety of what they said. And it doesn't matter
who it is, you know, and uh, and just realize
that they're feeding you what you want to.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Uh, but I don't want it a lot of time.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
Again, That's why, like I clicked on one video out
of curiosity.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Now I do on need ninety five of that.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I get that for sure. All right, take a little break,
more big dumb fun. When we come back. You're listening
to the mantras of the morning. Hey, Tony from Clairemont
just texted us. Then get Tony from claire Mount.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
You can text us.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
And I'm reading.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm trying to read all these They come by fast,
you know, I mean, we have hundreds that come in.
You know, I'd be in the number one morning show
in town. There's so many people that are listening. Not
just here in Central Florida. We have people from Tennessee
and from Virginia and all over the all over the
country that Texas. But uh, thank you Tony from Clairemont.
He says, Hey, Russ, there were two rocket launches last night.

(32:17):
The earlier one was from Texas and the Florida one
was around ten.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I was out. I set my alarm to.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Make sure because I'll usually i'll fall asleep a little bit,
you know, about seven thirty or so. If I set
my alarm for eight oh five so I could go
back in the backyard. I have not seen a rocket
launch from where we are in winter Haven now, and
I didn't know if I could see one. But I
saw on the winter Haven feed somebody said, hey, tonight
there's a rocket launch. You know, if you're in winter Haven,

(32:45):
go look out to the north east and you can
see it at around eight oh five. I'm like, okay, well,
I'll do that. Well that person obviously was wrong. Hey
once again Facebook wrong. Uh, And there were two rocket launches.
So last night I set my alarm, you know, because
I did fall asleep at seven thirty and me and
Mary Ellen and the dogs go in the backyard and

(33:06):
I'm looking up at the sky and I found something
really funny, right, so I'm looking up at the sky
looking for the rocket launch. Mary Ellen's looking and both
dogs are sitting there looking up in the sky where
we're looking.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
And I'm like, I wonder what they don't know what
we're looking.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
For, Like why are they looking at the same spot
that we are looking at?

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Well, because they know that you're not paying attention to them,
So if you're not paying attention to them, I'm like, well,
what the hell's up there?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's just weird.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
They were staring in the same direction that we were
staring at. You know, now, now what if she was
there in one way and I was staring the other?
Would would would each dog take a difference.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
I just thought it was weird that they were sitting
or stirred at the sky like we were. And obviously
we didn't see anything at eight o'clock, nothing that had happened,
But you know, I tried to tried to view it,
but I didn't. Do you guys still go out and
view rocket launches if you if you know, if you
know what's going up and you got the time to
walk outside.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
It used to be one of my favorite things to do,
but now it's become so commonplace with a as far
as like them shooting up satellites for Amazon, Starlink everybody.
It just seems like it's every other day now, So
it's it's it made it less special, which is kind
of sad.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, not as special anymore, right, Yeah, you see it
all the time your entire life.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
You see it. It's like it.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
But I mean the Space Shuttle was a big deal
for me as a kid. Anytime the Space Shuttle was
going on, I mean like I'm out the door, I'm
looking for it. Classes would be put on paus so
everybody could go outside and look.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
At this thing.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
But when it's just like an Amazon satellite going up,
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
And I know that I am older than you guys,
but I remember I was six, right, so I was
born in sixty five, so it's like seventy one, and
there were there were rockets going to the.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Moon and it would be in such a huge deal.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yeah, that would be amazing.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
I mean I remember standing outside on Alfred Drive in
Kingswood and everybody, everybody, every house on the street, like
the entire everyone's out watching the rocket lines, like, oh
my god, we're going to the moon, you know, it
was such a huge deal back then, and now it's like, eh,
I'll catch.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
The next one.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
They put people on the Moon, I would care. I
would go outside and watch that one. The day they
send somebody to Mars, I'm going outside. I'm watching that launch,
you know what I mean. Right, But if it's just
a satellite to sell me more towels, I'm good.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
It doesn't make it.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
I don't think we'll ever have a rocket launch that
will go to Mars. I think I think there'll be
a rocket launch that goes to the Moon and then
like several months later, it'll go from the Moon to Mars,
don't you.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
I think they slingshot around the Moon.

Speaker 7 (35:38):
I don't think they launched directly from the Moon, but
it will still be that initial launch of like, hey,
they're going and they'll be there in three years or
whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, so I would definitely go
watch that. You know, if we're landing on another planet.
The Moon's great and all, but like nothing up there.
We've been there, but another planet, that's.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
A big deal.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
That's the first time the humans have ever done that.
That I mean amazing. But that's if the aliens don't
come in a few months like they're playing.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
Like everybody's saying there.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, I know. Enjoy about your family. I mean like
air force family.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
I would think your dad is pretty much into the
whole space thing.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
Well he was, like he was in the Air Force,
but he wasn't on the aviation part of it. So
but we grew up, like you know, always constantly going
out to the airfields to watch the air shows and
all that. So, like I might not specifically seek out
a rocket launch, but if I see what happening and
I got a good side of it, I have pulled
off the road, especially if my daughters are in the car,

(36:37):
and we'll sit and watch it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
I still think it's neat.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
I do too, Yeah, yeah, but there are times I
won't walk outside to see it.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
Yeah, like I'm saying, I'm not going to go out
of my way, but I'm still I still think it's
pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Hey, we have trivia time coming up here in a second.
That means you can win something in trivia. We've had
some great prizes, so you might want to get on
the line if you want to win. The telephone number
is four U S one, O four one. A ton
of people texting today. I don't know what's going on
with you all, but we'll try to text some of
you back. Appreciate that. If you also want to check
us out on our YouTube channel. How's YouTube looking over there?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Ryan?

Speaker 5 (37:12):
You know they did something weird on our YouTube channel today.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Well, then everybody used to have his little screen names,
and I guess you could change your screen name in
our chat. Now it's just everybody's like Gmail handle.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Like I know, I like.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Their funny little names. Who gives everybody the funny little
names on the texting service?

Speaker 5 (37:28):
That's me?

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Okay, Like, this is Jeff dude with red Adidas shirt.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
What why'd you call him that?

Speaker 7 (37:37):
Well, he texted that in I imagine I met him
one time and he's wearing a red Adidas shirt and
he probably said, Hey, it's Jeff.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
I was wearing the red Adidas shirt.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I know. I've said some iffy things.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Yep, Yeah, I'm a girl.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
Yeah, I like the one that says I have to
hide my feet because they do ugly.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
That's fun, all right, Well, anyway, you.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Can participate with the show, That's what I'm talking about,
and you can text us at seven seven.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Zero three one. We will do trivia.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
When we come back, we'll find out what prize we
have in the prize pinata from Angel, So don't go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

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