BMMS 7-21-25

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They are gonna be at the Cove at River Spirit
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Speaker 1 (03:23):
Great, it's gonna happen. And that's all happening on July
thirty first. You should get your tickets. Riverspirit Tulsa dot com.
I believe that show is sold out, by the way. Uh,
we've got best and worst of the weekend.

Speaker 7 (03:35):
What's the best thing that happened this weekend and the
worst thing that happened this weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
We'll talk with our listeners because they're awesome. Everybody has
a story and we'll speak with one of our listeners
coming up later on those share part of their life
highs lows. Usually it's only low's and Jeff Innsley will
join us.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
Going through a divorce, custody, guardianship, name any of those things.

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He can answer them. WHOA And you can get your.

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at kmod dot com. Show at kmod dot com. You
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Speaker 1 (04:20):
Uh. I got to tell you man, the Uh the
listeners went all in on our picture for flight Fairway.
Yeah they did. I don't know why I was catching stress.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
Left and right. Bro, you were number one target. Yeah,
I don't even I was like, I didn't even know
what was happening. If anything, I was like, I'm not
wearing my glasses whatever. And when you're a dude and
you comment that you think I'm packing heat, that's weird

(04:58):
packing heat as in yeah really yeah, I mean that's
a weird thing to comment on like that. They zoned
in on that, yeah, and not what's right above it,
but just that. And I'm not trying to get you
to go look at it, uh, because I don't think
it looks like it at all. I'm just like, there's
a fold in my pants.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
There's a fold in my pants. But to go all
in on me.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
And you think I'm important tires when Gimpy's sitting there
with a shadow.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Right right, somebody did say I look pregnant. I was like, oh, yeah,
I kind of do. Dude, pregnant sounds like a gift
from God. Right. The only comment about Lindsay that I
could find. Maybe it's changed because I think I really
like Saturday or whatever. It's like Lindsay's just happy to
be there. That's Lindsay in a nutshell. She's happy to

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just be anywhere. But I was like, I don't even
know what happened. I was like, I thought was the
picture good? I don't know. I guess I thought it
was good. I just wanted to promote but giveaway, you know,
and how to come down and get registered for this
badass golf card. I get it. I didn't think that
we would get so much back on it about our looks.

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This is radio, right, There's a reason they say you
got a face for radio. Anytime they're like, hey, we
want to go do a photo shoot, I'm like, gee,
I'm not in this for the looks right.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
I would have done television. I had have been about look.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Like I had a choice, right, And it's for a
golf cart. And people are like you fat heat packing
dumb ass. You're like, god, how miserable are you? Right?
I was like, dude, dude, it's a good day, damn it.

(07:02):
Yeah about that? Good days over now? Right, You're like god, God, man,
it was so funny.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
I showed my wife and she's like, Wow, things are
good in their universe.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Huh well, yeah, that's what they do. Man, they got
to take it out. I'm a little old less. Must
myself feel better about it themselves.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
I'm trying to think if I've ever went to a
social media post and commented on someone's looks. And this
isn't a I'm better than you, This isn't a any
of that. It's just it's not something I think to do.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Right.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
Have you ever had the time for it? I mean
sure I've been online well or made the time to
do so, just to comment on someone's looks.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Uh No, I don't. I don't want to. I'll read
comments all day. Oh yeah, but I.

Speaker 7 (08:00):
I am not seeking out to make a comment on
social media. Nine times out of ten. It's a tinderbox, right,
and when you wrestle with a piggy get money, right,
And so I'm like, I'm not interested in having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
No, because one person will read it and they'll comment
next thing. You know, it's this whole back and forth
thing and it's really just a waste of time.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
And I don't really have a social media I have
a fake one so I can do some stuff for
the company. But it's like reading reviews when people are
like this restaurant sucks, right, ouch, yeah, and.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
Then you go there and you're like, I have the
best experience ever.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Yeah, it's okra right, Like some people like it, some
people don't, Right, it is what it is. I think
it's not you want to eat it, go ahead, But
to go to a page like do you go like,
if you're a friend a fan of Sons of Anarchy,
do you go to the Sons of Anarchy Facebook page

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and go pos?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I'm sure some people do, do you They've got nothing
better to do with their wasting pathetic lines. Do you
go to a football team page and go, you guys suck?
Actually I've seen that. I've seen that. Actually also wild though, yeah.

Speaker 7 (09:18):
I don't think the team after the game and they
shower and they're on their couch chilling after.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
The game, go let's see what the fans say. Swipe swipe.
I could be wrong.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
Does a band after a show go to a social
media and go, let's see what the what the fans
thought of my show today?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm sure they do.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
If they're not if they're a struggling band maybe or
someone trying to break into the industry.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
Yeah, if you're doing a concert, I would argue you're
not struggling, right. You may not have the goal you've expected,
but that that will move as time progresses.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
What is it called the accomplishment fallacy? Like you will
you will get to that part and then once you
get to it, then it moves right right. I don't
think they go like to their post and read the comments.
Maybe if they're sitting on a can and just doom
scroll and they're like, oh, hey, somebody took a picture
from our show. Might look at the comments them. Yeah,

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because that's I kinda do the same thing. I don't
go straight back to the post that I made, like
this one here just to read it populated my feet.
I was like, ah, lascinate because that's fair. Let's take again. Yeah,
that's fair and they ripped a support.

Speaker 7 (10:34):
That's fair to could be like, oh, how did how
did my how am I doing to my job?

Speaker 8 (10:38):
Right?

Speaker 9 (10:38):
Right?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Right? How's my engagement whatever? Yeah? Yeah that feels like
a real Okay, I'll buy that. Does the people do people.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
Do people that don't make content for they're just like,
here's my life?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do they do that? Oh? I would say I would
say yes, because they want to see how many people
are interacting with their little world.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
Yeah, especially if they're thirsty.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh yeah, the thirsty or the worst it is. Yeah.
I was talking with a friend of mine who owns
a business and he was asking me about like what
we do for social media, and he was sharing what
he's doing, and he was like, I've just decided to
I bring a high school kid in. Tell him they
can have my services for free if they do my
social media. He's like, and he's my age, and he's

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like I can't wrap my head around it. And you're like, yeah, no,
that brilliant. That is a good idea. What's somebody else doing?
Who should have thought of that? And you're like, okay, yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go down.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
What's a popular show right sidebar? I watched land Man
finally I started watching it.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah yeah, Billy buff Porton, Yeah, what you think it's
not good? Dude?

Speaker 6 (11:56):
Really I thought you were gonna no, go the opposite.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Okay, it's not.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
It's so over the top dramatic. That's Taylor's Sheridan for
you though. Yeah, like all of his shows, super hyperbole
like that.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah. Yeah, but I enjoy it. I mean I enjoy it.
I'm waiting for the next season to come out. I
enjoy it like I enjoy rage. Okay, I don't find
it to be very good. You're like, Okay, it's male driven.
Yeah sure, yeah. Apparently there's like on the social media
as they're down and what is it Choctaw. Yeah, they're

(12:29):
filming in the Oklahoma. Yeah, so that's kind of neat.
Sure did you see this now? Houston King? He's no
longer in tol So, huh, No he is.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
But there's a spin off with Samuel Jackson called Houston King.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
What I have not seen this?

Speaker 7 (12:50):
I have not, I'll be honest. I watched the first
two episodes and was like, this ain't good. And then
stopped watching what networks on on CBS. I believe, so
be on Paramount or whatever. Huh, I believe Yeah, I
got it. I have never heard of this.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
They just announced it.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
Apparently Samuel Jackson's been on a couple episodes or a
handful of episodes, and maybe the response was so big.
They He's gonna do this spinoff called Houston King. Okay,
and I'm unclear of his character on the show. I'm
unclear of it makes sense. Houston's a big city. It's

(13:29):
a very thriving economic city. Oh, this is Nola King,
New Orleans, Orleans.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I thought it was Houston. Yeah, okay, right, okay. The
series follows Russell Lee Washington Junior after it was released
from a ten year prison. Since it's exactly it's the
same storyline, the same thing, just a different colored guy
in a different town. Is he gonna do weed? Probably?
And can Samuel Jackson do television? Because of his uh

(14:02):
colorful langrig his turetts. Yeah, I actually read that that's
why he is so colorful, because he has a bit
of a stutter, and that's why he he is the
way he is. It helps him get past his stuttering.
But that's not turetts. Treats is an uncontrollable nerve reaction

(14:23):
on neurological reactions where that came to my mind.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
But speaking of tourettes, I saw on online.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yesterday wherettes on their beagle car.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
But what's her name that always cusses? Bailey? Briley Bailey.
She's you're done, forget about it, You're done. She no
longer cusses with her turettes. She said she is five
days cuss free with her new breathing therapy from her

(14:55):
new therapist, and she is celebrating it.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
She was faking it the entire iron time. Well, I oh,
she was on medicine. Now I'm twelve, I'm twelve hours sober.
I mean we all got a duration. Yeah, so good
for her. I'm so glad you gave us that update.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
But now your videos aren't going to be as good now.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
I don't know. Watching her bake of cakes pretty great,
that's true.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
That it's true.

Speaker 7 (15:24):
Spoiler, she doesn't finish baking the cake. No, I watched.
I've told GIMPI about this before. There's a girl online
that gets high and then bakes, She bakes and bakes.
She calls it gardening, and she rarely gets to finishing
because she gets so high. Yeah, ripped and she took

(15:45):
an edible and she was unsure the dosage, so she
just ate the whole thing and it wasn't kicking in,
and so she decided to garden, which smoke. And I
was like, who's this Asian lady on my screen? Because
she was so and she was like, I don't know
what's happening. And there's cutshots of her just standing like

(16:05):
looking at the counter trying.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
To figure out what to do. It's so funny. You're like,
this is brilliant.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
Anyway, all right, we got to take a break. We
got tickets to see Bush with meet and greet. You're
gonna get both those things. Very cool. It's gonna be
out the cove on July thirty first at Riverspirit because
you don't get you tkets Riverspirit Tulsa dot Com Best
and Worst of the weekend text us what your best
and what your worst is BMMS and what that is
to eight two, nine, four five.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Time for news quikies. These are stories you may have
missed in the news.

Speaker 10 (16:36):
It's time for newsquakies, world news, local news, and news
that just makes you say, what the Here's Corbyn, Gimbi
and Lindsay with What's going on newsquakies from the Big
Night Morning showing ninety seven five.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
Woman seriously injured due to exploding bath and bodyworks candle.
This happened in New York City where Ranita a Friend Coy,
a former New York City Hall worker, filed a lawsuit
because of an incident that occurred on January nineteenth of
twenty twenty three. She leaned in to smell her sweater

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weather candle, which then exploded, sending glass, molten wax, and
flames onto her face. She suffered second degree burns, leading
two burns on her forehead, cheeks, and lips, along with
permanent dark spots on her arms. The lawsuit argues that

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the company knew about the dangers of their three wick candles,
but failed to provide adequate warnings or testings. She is
seeking compensatory and punitive damages, a recall of the candle,
and coverage of her attorney fees, among other requests.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Did it say the flavor.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Yes, sweater weather, sweatter weather?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
What does sweater weather smell? Like a fireplace, right, Yeah,
toasted marshmallows maybe maybe maybe a pumpkin.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
I think they have a toasted marshmallow candle. Yeah, they're
all the same, so something very autumn like.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I'm a sucker for a good smell. Can Oh man,
I just don't stick your face up on it when
you go to snippet.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
But how else are you supposed to smell?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Loft it towards you? They taught you that in sad
class in the eighth grade. I mean, when it's on fire,
I don't put my face near it. Apparently, if the
lid's on it, I may remove it and go yeah,
but when there's an orange illuminescent flame, yeah, I typically
keep my face away from it. Those are the those

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are good words to live by, Yes, keep your face
away from the fire.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
I'll never forget my practice wife and we were hanging
out with a friend and we were hitting the bong
and she leaned over.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
To hit it and hair cut off fire.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
Oh yeah, your hair back, man. Yeah, And you know
it's one of those everybody's everybody's at eighty thousand feet
and so you're like not sure if it happened. Nobody's
reacted yet even she was like, whoa.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
You baking something?

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Right, She's pulled her hair back and went back to work.
Uh huh. Police find child sex dolls in man's home.
This comes out of West Monroe, Louisiana, where a sixty
year old dude named Marcus Gileroy Gillery, he calls the
police over because he says there's a woman in his
house and he wants she refuses to leave, So they

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come over and they're looking for this woman named Artha,
that's all he knows are by, and he asks him
to sweep the house. So they do, and when they do,
they go into the man's room and that's where they
discovered three child size sex doll lying on and near
the bed well. That says the same, right, So they

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went ahead and got a warrant to search the entire house.
They get the warrant, they're searching, and they say that
they found these dolls, of course kicked off the whole thing,
anatomically correct sex doll of an infant and two anatomically
correct dolls which resembled a child under the age of thirteen.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Are they sure it wasn't a little person doll?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I don't know. They didn't show pictures of the dolls
in the articles.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Why would that even be, why would they even produce
that type of thing?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Because the sickos like this guy, this guy Marcus. Anyhow,
he admitted to owning these dolls, says he's got them online,
and he said that he's had sex with each of
the dolls multiple times. He also admitted to piercing the
nipples of the child dolls. Yes, so they went ahead

(20:59):
and to came in for possessing, trafficking or importing of
a child sex doll, which is a felony, and they
also busted him for weeds crime. Yeah. I was just
as shocked because I didn't think they made sex doll
child like sex dolls, for one, And like, okay, this

(21:20):
is just this whole story. I guinea pigged it. I
can't find it at all. You wanted to be the
one of them? Yeah, I mean just to buy one?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Maybe dark web?

Speaker 8 (21:30):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Okay, that's the only thing I would think of. I
would still think there's pictures out there. Yeah, I found
some pictures. Okay, I mean they're small, they do they
have childlike features?

Speaker 7 (21:49):
I mean they're children dolls. I don't know what differentiates
them as being sex dolls.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
It's not showing that. I know, slow down, well, I
know it would happen right right when I say that
they're anatomical correct, That's what I was. That's what I
was gonna say. Yeah know, So if that's the case,
then maybe maybe it's not like your typical sex doll,
like we're thinking, the one that always has the surprise

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look on their face or whatever. Right, maybe it's like
a teaching tool, you know, for like doctors or something
or something.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, and he just happens to have sex with him
and wanted to pierce their nipples like modified jail broken.
Yeah yeah, god damn yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
Did you see the story of that was all the
rain and flooding. There was a police were called to
save somebody that was drowning in a river and it
was a sex doll.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
That didn't surprise me. We get a lot of those
stories where like somebody call the police somebody stuck, and
they like, it's just an old sex doll, Which, why
are you throwing that on the side of the road.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
I don't know, I'm gonna see your I'm gonna see
your child. Sextaal and raise you two more man arrested
for best Reality and child porn possession. A Louisiana a
man faces charges of sexual abuse of animals along with
possessing explicit material involving children. Acting on a tip from
the National Center for Missing Exploited Children, the Task Force

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started investigating Zacharia Gutareu late last month. He was arrested
on Friday. No clear on exactly what. And he looks like.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
He looks like the types that would have sex with
an animal and have kittie porn.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
No, he looks like the guy you see at the bar.
He looks very Caucasian, if you will. And both of
our guys are from Louisiana. What is that tell you?
I was looking at more on the story and the
number of Beast Reality story that are avail.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
You're like, damn, people like to do. I don't get
it more than shark attacks, right, more than shark attacks.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
You must wish it was reversed.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
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Speaker 1 (24:50):
Good morning Gimpie, Good morning Corman. As I continue to
qualify you for Flight and Phara, I want to be
out this Friday at Docs Country mart In Bakesby, So
make your plans to swing by and be out there
from five to seven getting you qualified for that badass
golf cart from Yingling Flight. All right, best and worst
of the weekend? What's the best part of the weekend.
What's the worst part of the weekend?

Speaker 7 (25:10):
Bmms and whatever that is to eight, two, nine, four five,
lindsay what's the best and what's the worst?

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Well, the worst part of the weekend, I would say
is I was hoping to have been healed more, but
as you get older, you just don't heal as fast
as you know. I had surgery on Wednesday, had my
ovaries removed, and yeah, my body just doesn't heal like
it used to. I had a lot of When they

(25:43):
do abdominal surgery like that they fill you with air,
so I had a lot of gas built up in
my body and it's really hard to get rid of
hard to push out that gas when you have sores,
and so it was building up and it was in
my shoulders and it is very painful. So I was

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in a lot of pain over the weekend. And yeah,
I would have done anything to just hear that, to
feel that.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I just want to fart, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
And I couldn't really lay on my side so well
because those are where the incisions are. But the best
I guess of the weekend was I was able to
get out of the house yesterday and go to church,
so that was really nice. But then menopause is a real,

(26:36):
real thing and it's hitting me really quick because I
was in church and normally our church is it's very cold,
like we keep our studio very cold, and they keep
our church very cold, like usually it's like around sixty
four degrees on the inside.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
What they want to keep you awake, you know, and.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
It's and it fills up.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I mean it's yeah, they're trying to get ahead of
the body heat.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Yeah, exactly. And I was having so many hot flashy
in there. It was ridiculous. Oh my gosh, it was
so bad. But just getting out of the house after
being cooped up for since Wednesday afternoon, it was nice.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
So this says you're gonna love this. That the gas
can irritate your diaphragms lining, Yeah, and the irritation sends
pain signals through one of your nerves and it feels
like shoulder pain. Yeah, it's not gas going up to
your shoulders.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
Oh interesting. Yeah, and they did say that. I mean,
you'll feel it in your shoulders and especially in the
right shoulder is where I felt it the most.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah. So it's just that nerve getting triggered and irritated.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yeah, fascinating, it is, it is, and it is a
pain in the shoulder.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Ugh. Did you have to stay the night in the hospital. No.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
I was in recovery for about I think maybe an hour,
maybe an hour and a half hour, forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
How long is that procedure?

Speaker 6 (28:00):
It was an hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
The whole procedure was an hour and a half.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
Yeah, yeah, were you awake in the room and then
they put you under?

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Or do they put you under like in the setup room?

Speaker 8 (28:11):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (28:11):
In the operation room, they put me on.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
So you went into the operation room on your own
will yeah? Uh?

Speaker 11 (28:15):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
And or how are you coming out of the drugs? Are?
Because some people cry when they wake up, some people
are angry, some people like everybody's got kind of a
different reaction.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
I was tired. I was groggy, just tired.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I think everybody's groggy.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
I wasn't very, I wasn't moody or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I was.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
I was just I just wanted to sleep. I just
wanted to go home and sleep even more.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
I don't remember much before surgery. So Tuesday night I
was watching some TikTok videos and I watched a video
of this little boy who was probably eight or nine
years old, and he was coming out of the anesthesia
and he kept looking up, looking straightforward, and you could
see tears coming down his face and he said, Papa, mom,

(29:06):
and I miss you so much. And to hear him
say papa you, I assumed he was talking to like
he's a grandfather or something. But apparently his You see
his mom. You hear his mom in the video crying
because she's filming it.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
He's like he's.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Talking to his dad. His dad died a year ago,
and he was like, come hug me me and mom
miss you so much. Just give me a hug. Yeah,
and then you like see it, like boy sees his
dad coming out of Yeah, I know, I mean you
want to bully. I was like, I wonder if something
like that it's gonna happen to me. You want to know? Nothing, right,
that's just a trim Yeah, yeah, nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, go look up Donkey Donkey's Donkey's waking up kids
from antesthesia. It's awesome, like actual donkeys. They bring him
into the hospital.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
And they take this donkey and they give him a
keyboard and the donkey rubs his face on the keyboard
and it makes.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
All this noise. Wait, the kid up. It's the funniest
Thing's hilarious. Okay, best and worst of the weekend. What's
the best part of the weekend. What's the worst part
of the weekend?

Speaker 7 (30:08):
Bmmss and whatever that is to eight two, nine, four five,
gimb what's the best and what's the worst?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm gonna say the best was definitely Friday. So I
had that remote out at Scratch indoor Golf and bigsby
getting qualified for flight and fairway, which is pretty awesome.
If you've never been in one of those indoor golf places,
they're pretty groovy. She offered to give us a bay,
and I'm like, I played disc golf, not ball golf.
I've tried before. Can't swing a club worth the damn

(30:33):
So it was cool to watch everybody else get down
and whack the s out of these balls into the screen,
right funk all right, So that was fun. I met
a guy named Gary Johnson. He races with You've Heard
a Street Outlaws Rights the TV show. He races with them,
so I got to sit and talk with him for
a little while. That was really cool. And then after that,

(30:55):
right we celebrated my girl's birthday, which was last week
when she got her kids. So we go all the
friends together and whatnots and just went out and had
drinks and did some karaoki or whatever. So being able
to do that was pretty awesome. Friday was pretty awesome.
Now I got a tie for the worst of the weekend. Fun. Yeah,

(31:15):
So Friday after work, I come home. You know, I've
got six ferrets, right, and I let them roam around,
and they got their own little room that they like
to hang out in, and then I keep the door shut.
And there's an old couch in there that they crawl
in and around and play on or whatever. So I
go in there to take care of the ferrets. I'm like, Bobby,
where are you at?

Speaker 11 (31:36):
Bobby?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And Bobby was the most recent one that I got.
He's a rescue. Well, I go and peel back the
couch because that's where they like to sleep. And Bobby's
dead there, the under the couch. You went to that
pretty fast, Bobby, My ferrets dead under the couch. Yeah.
So I was like, he looked like he was sleeping,
and usually I'm like hey, Bobby, and he was like,

(31:58):
lean his head up. He sleeps a lot, we used
to anyway. And he looked up at me or whatever
and then just kind of go back to doing what
he was doing. Well, now I had the feeling or whatever.
I was like, ah, hell okay, so pick him up cold,
all right, well, fine, take him the backyard, get him, shovel,
bury him next to the juala. Right that I recently

(32:20):
had to put down. Was the dirt still pretty fresh? Yeah, yeah,
the rain had kind of you know, patting it down
a little bit. But I just dug a hole place
Bobby in there, cover him up, put the disc golf
basket on top of that hole so there's no other
animals trying to get in there, get in there. Yeah,
And I thought that was the worst part of the weekend.

(32:41):
But then but then Saturday, right, my brother and I
and my lady we go out to Haskell Lake, which, yes,
Haskell has a lake out there, and it's pretty awesome,
like a really big pond, but or smallt whatever. Anyway,
they got camping out there, They've got a swimming area,
they've got a eighteen whole disc golf course out there.

(33:02):
My brother and I we go play eighteen holes. My
lady meets us out there. We spend the rest of
the afternoon splashing around in the water. Right, there was
this very aggressive fish that kept biting my nipples. Shut up,
I ain't lying, I ain't lying. Like she got nipped
by it. We thought it was not on her nipples

(33:23):
but on her leg. Right, I thought it was maybe
a turtle or whatever. And the turtles were fine. I'm
in there, splashing around and he comes up bam, right
on my right nipple, son of a bitch. What the
hell man, jump out the water, Yeah, all right, cool, whatever, whatever,
stay in the water mine of my own business. Boom

(33:44):
gets me on the uh right there on the ribs,
right there on the side, right, all right, whatever not.
But just minutes after that comes back, gets me in
my same damn right nipple, son of a bitch, bit
my nipple twice.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
How big is this fish?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I don't know. That's equal to your very dying I
think so. I think so. Anyhow, so I had to
to deal with this damn aggressive fish.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
My brother's like, I think it's a very angry perch.
I told him, old lady, I think it's a piranha,
because you know, there are fresh water piranhas out there.
There are no But I don't know. He wasn't he
just he just I guess he really liked my nipple.
Piranhas aren't like the movies. No, no, of course not.
They're not going to you knowlet of bubbles everywhere, but

(34:34):
they are aggressive and they do come up and bite you.
Plenty of fish are aggressive.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Could it have been a water moccasin. No.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I think if a waterxin would attack anything I could see,
like the fish, like maybe it look like a little
worm or something like that. I don't know your nipple,
I don't know, but does some bitch got me twice
and I was like, all right, did it leave a mark?
It's still sore, so it did not leave It didn't
leave a mark, but it was That was Saturday. My

(35:02):
right nipple still hurts today on Monday. Sure, And just
so I'm clear, I don't want to be confused. Huh.
That is equal to your ferret dying. Yeah, ferit's dying.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Well he's got five more.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, Well, nipples get bit. I don't know what. It's
not a fish though they're nice people. They just smell
like it anyhow. But yeah, yeah, to me, you know,
pets die, people die. You know, that's kind of how
I get through things. It's gonna happen. I always thought
that Bobby was the youngest one, right, but again he

(35:33):
was a rescue, so I have no idea how old
he was. And so so I mean, you go, it
is what it is. And I told you, man, these
things start whittling down. I'm not replacing them. No, give
he's been saving some money. Yeah, he's been on some
budget cuts. Yeast in peace, Bobby.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
Now our ferrets fraternal, Like, do they need to have
a companion? It's best if they do that from all
the research that I have seen, its best if they
have at least one companion, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Five maybe a little extreme, but that's how I got
started in this. I got the one Dolly, which she
is the oldest one. I think she's like six now. Yeah,
and and well we need a friend for that one,
as we got and then I got Rocket, you know.
And then it just snowballed out of control because I
see him at the store and I fall in love
with him.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
Best and worst the weekend. What's the best part of
the weekend. What's the worst part of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Best part of the weekend would be, uh, yesterday was awesome.
I told my wife, yesterday felt like a five act play.
Five different things happened that were just good. Got some
stuff done around the house, had good meals. I mowed
the yard. But it was hot, but it wasn't crazy.
It didn't feel crazy because the breeze like it was.
It was awesome. Yesterday was an awesome day. The worst

(36:53):
part of the weekend, and maybe this is why yesterday
was the best is on Thursday night at eight o'clock,
I got an alert that I was under a water
boil where I lived. Oh yeah, and it carried through
till late Saturday night. And you don't realize how much
you use tap water, Yeah right, you just don't realize it. Friday,

(37:18):
I can't. I went to Warehouse Market not warehouse, yes,
warehouse Market before the show and bought a bunch of
water because I knew they'd have some it was open,
wouldn't be dealing with people, And then went to Sam's
got some more after that because I knew it might
last till Tuesday. Is what I was prepared for. And
I drink a lot of water. We use a lot

(37:39):
of water brushing teeth. You could still shower, yeah, just
don't get it an your mouth.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
And you can do your dishwasher, but you've got to
run a couple of different settings on your dishwasher to
make sure. And I boiled some water to hand wash
some stuff that sucks because you gotta wait for it
to cool down because it's boiling. And a couple of
things like rinsing off the coffee pot. You don't realize

(38:06):
you use tap water for that. And I went and
did it. I was like, son of a bitch, and so, uh.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Just glad that that that endedn't had some normalcy.

Speaker 7 (38:16):
You have to I had to throw out all my ice.
I have to clean the ice containers because you don't
want equal eye.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Yeah, what a headache.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, you have to. You're supposed to clear the taple line.
I mean, there's all these crazy things that I had
no idea could happen. Never been under that before. How
that happens? I don't understand the equal lie in the water.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
Yeah, I don't understand in a modern system, how does
that right? How does that happen? How does it happen
in certain areas? But like in the city of Tulsa,
that's never happened that I'm aware of. Maybe it has
feels wild?

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Uh? Best and worst of the weekend? What's the best
part of the weekend. What's the worst part of the weekend?
Best got to hang out with Rodney Carrington. Worst lost
twenty five hundred dollars at a casino. Dang uh. Best,
sorry lost my best didn't have to mow in the heat.
Worst hit a skunk butt first. Ooh ude, see the

(39:16):
comma would make Worst hit a skunk comma, but first, Uh,
I don't think it matters where you hit a skunk now.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
Yeah, but when he hit it butt first, it probably
sprayed right into the grill of his car, spring it
inside the vehicle instantly, right.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
No, no, no, giant vacuum at the front of the car. Uh.
Best exhaust or the is at the back. Oh yeah,
and that shoots air out. Best was getting to take
the family out on the boat Saturday. Worst back to

(39:55):
the grind today with micro managing lead man who's fifteen
years younger than me on my assid. I am yeah,
it's called a boss. Uh perch bit my nipples all
the time when I'm noodling. Okay, Best, Best having Friday
off for my birthday. Worst my daughter getting her drivers permitt.

(40:15):
Best got to see Shane Gillis Friday at the pay
COMM Center. Worst didn't get to Oh, got tickets to
see Shane Gillis Friday at the PAYCMM Center. Worst didn't
get to go. That sucks. Yeah, I'm sure it's some
satirical type of comedy that you're like Ooh, I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 7 (40:36):
All right, we got to take a break. We got
tickets to see Bush with Meet and Greet and uh.
That shows July thirty first at the Covid Side River
Spirit Casino.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
We'll be back. More of the Big Men Morning Show
is next. See what Kimpie has in this four by four.
We gonna says here. The President Trump wants old names
back in Washington and in Cleveland. He posted on True
Social yesterday the Washington's football franchise in Cleveland's baseball team
should return to their original team names. Washington dropped the

(41:05):
name Redskins following the twenty nineteen season and became the
Commanders before twenty two, and Cleveland underwent a rebranding in
twenty two after changing its name from the Indians to
the Guardians. The Special Envoy said Tramas deal could be soon.
A senior Trump administration official says a hostage deal with

(41:26):
Tramas could be coming soon peering. He says the Special
Envoy for Hostage Release Adam Boehler, urged Tramas to take
the current deal, which calls for the release of at
least ten remaining hostages in exchange for a path to piece.
Bowler's comments come after multiple Americans were set free as
part of a major prisoners swamp involving Venezuelan immigrants. What

(41:51):
else we got here? Mayor Karen Bass says that ICE
enforcement has hurt LA as she spoke about the impact,
saying the arrest of people who our quote snatched off
the street causes fear and rage over the way deportation
processes being carried out. She also shared frustration around the
administration's decision to deploy the National Guard and active duty

(42:12):
Marines in response to the city wide protests. While bast
announced the violence that occurred during demonstrations, she said it
did not warrant military intervention. And then lastly, here a
boil order has been lifted for Rogers County RWD number three.

(42:33):
Is this the one that's gotten you on number three? Okay?
In the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality announced that the
boil order for Rodgers County Rural Water District number three
has been lifted and the water has been deemed safe
for human consumption. The EQ issued the boil order the
evening of July seventeenth. They says that due to the
prisons of E. Coli and water samples that continue to

(42:57):
monitor for safety.

Speaker 7 (42:58):
The thing that was really weird about it was that
apparently DQ announced it earlier in the day, and the
water treatment facility who we pay the bill to, didn't
alert us till eight pm after people had done baths.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Sure waters, As.

Speaker 7 (43:20):
I told my wife, when they were like, oh, it's lifted,
I'm like, now, it's clean.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
That's just what they do. You just believe them, right,
And it was clean until they told us it wasn't.
But it wasn't right. It's a wild little game to play.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
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Speaker 7 (44:29):
All right, time for our listeners are awesome. This is
where we chat with the listener and they share part
of their life with us. And on the line right
now with us is Cody.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Hey, Cody, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
How's it going?

Speaker 7 (44:38):
It's going great, man, Cody. It says here that you're
a Navy vent. How old were you when you entered
the Navy?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Sorry the phone cut out there. How old were you? Eight?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Right out of high school?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
And what made you want to join?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Honestly, I wasn't doing very good in school, so I
didn't have a plan. I hadn't applied to any colleges
or anything like that, and I knew I wanted to
travel and see the world, so I figured the Navy
was the best shot for me.

Speaker 7 (45:10):
So you went straight to a Navy recruiter or did
you try all three and this is the one that
took you, No cruder, that was the one for me. Okay,
And what did what area did you want to get
into in the Navy?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well, I initially wanted to do like medics type stuff.
But this again, this is two thousand and two, like
less than a year after nine to eleven. So they
really needed some law enforcement personnel. So they offered me
like a three thousand dollars bonus, and I was like, oh,
hell heck, yeah, I'm going to buy a Chavelle when
I get out or whatever. So I went to law
enforcement route.

Speaker 7 (45:46):
And what was like law enforce enforcement in the Navy
kind of it's hard to wrap your brain around it
because you're on a ship in the water.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, I did five years active duty and I got
to full spread of law enforcement. So I did all
five years overseas, and my first duty station was in
Japan and I did landside law enforcement like is just
normal police. And then I went to Bahrain where I
did and bark security teams was we protected USNS and

(46:19):
USS ships from like pirates. And then I went to
Greece where I did harbor patrol. So I got the
whole law enforcement experience.

Speaker 7 (46:27):
What do you do to police against pirates? I can't imagine.
They love following rules.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
No, No, So they would helicopter my team out to
typically was like a USNS, like a merchant marine ship
that was about to go through like pirated waters, and
we would just set up our guns on the front
and the sides in the back and just pull security
for them. And when they would wait. If we would
see pirates, which I mean we saw some pirates, the

(46:57):
engagement was to just shoot their motors out and just
leave them there out in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
So how fun see you later.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
How many engines do you think you shot out?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I mean less than ten?

Speaker 7 (47:12):
And did you ever have any battles with any of
the pirates, like in regards to they got pretty close
to the ship?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
No, So that's part of our rules of engagement too,
was you know, if they got within five hundred yards,
to just shoot their motors out. So if they had
any small arm fire, I didn't. I didn't notice it.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Right because you're on this big ship. It was they're
probably not really great marksmen, right exactly. Yeah, Which of
the assignments you had, which was the easiest.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Harbor patrol probably in Greece because we would just show up,
because we would go there, show up in the morning
and get down in the like the belly of the boat,
and we would just sleep until we wake up. And
because we didn't really have like we would do patrols.
But then our main thing was to just escort boats

(48:08):
that were coming into port, escort them in and out.
So it was pretty low ops inpo which was awesome.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Not a high thread area, correct, No.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
No, this is in Suda Bay and Crete, Greece.

Speaker 7 (48:20):
And so what made you How old were you when
you got out of the Navy. I was like twenty one,
twenty two okay, So you only had a three year contract.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
No five years, so I guess I was like twenty
two or twenty.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
Three okay, And did you get the option to re
sign it?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Honestly, like, I wanted to get out and be a
rock star, which was like my original plan. So I
got out and I was in a couple of different
bands and we were playing around town locally, and then
I was going to college too at the same time,
so I was using my GI bill, so I was
getting paid there and then getting paid to play like
cover band stuff.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
So okay, And so you were playing cover band stuff
and did you really I don't mean that.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I'm not trying to sound disrespectful in nasses. I just
don't know.

Speaker 7 (49:08):
Another way to put it together is did you really
think you would get signed?

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Like I did? For a while there? So the cover
band thing, I was in a band called Crossland, and
it was the band Crossland was the lead singer and
he worked or played with Oh my gosh, what's the
dude that won American Idol? They've been cooked? Yeah, So

(49:33):
like they did acoustic Knights all the time, so we
knew all the right people, but we just didn't play originals.
So I had another band we played originals and we
did a couple we played a couple of like showcases,
but that never went anywhere.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Would you say that's the closest you got to getting
signed was play showcases?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
And do you think what do you think is the
reason why you didn't get signed?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Well, I was I was about to have a kid,
so I stepped away from the band scene so I
could focus on being a dad.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
So you'd think if you wouldn't have stepped away, do
you think you would have gotten signed.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
It's possible. I mean we were doing we were touring,
you know, regional tours and picking up momentum.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Who's the biggest act you opened for?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
It was Uh. I didn't really open for him, but
we won a contest I think on ninety seven to five,
and we got to open in front of the Bok
Center for Van Halen.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I mean that's yeah, that's pretty good. How many people
stood there and watched you play?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I don't know, seventy five Maybe it's not bad.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Now did you get to meet Van Halen?

Speaker 11 (50:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
But I got to listen to him warm up, which.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Was sick right on?

Speaker 7 (50:54):
Man, all right, so you get out of the navy,
you pursue the band thing, you have, have a kid?
Then what what do you you have to get a
job now that you're not playing in a band?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yep, yep? Had to grow up. So all of my
resume was just stacked with law enforcement. So I picked
up a job as a deputy sheriff with Tulsa County.
So I was a deputy sheriff for three or four years.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
And did you I imagine you didn't have to go
work at the David L. Moss you got to go
right out into the field.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
So, actually, no, I was. I worked at the courthouse,
which was the perfect part time gig because I was
still going to school because they have all the federal
holidays and stuff off. So then when I tested for
deputy and I made it, then they put me at
David L. Moss and I was like, dude, like, I
can't do this. I don't want to do this, like

(51:50):
put me out, put me out in the streets. Man.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
What a dramatic difference, by the way, from working at
the courthouse, which is pretty a timid right, Like it's
not it's not too crazy. It has it's a flare up,
but it's okay, to David OL Moss where you're processing prisoners.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, it was the worst. I mean, look, I'm not
trashing David Almas and the staff that works there, so
sorry everybody, but it just wasn't for me.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Right. There's just a big difference between you think you're
doing law enforcement to processing prisoners. There's a whole other
mindset that goes along with it.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah, and I'd never done that. I didn't have any
experience in that in the Navy.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
So how long did you do that?

Speaker 9 (52:29):
Well, I got the boss.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
I lasted at about a year and a half because
then I knew I was looking for something else. And
then there was a program called Troops to Teachers, which
doesn't exist anymore, but and with a co program for
veterans of any branch of service to go get their
teaching certificates. So I got my O GET and my OSTAT.

(52:51):
So it's Oklahoma General Education test and then the Subject
Area test, I think, so I passed both of those
and then get my first job teaching, which was awesome
at Central High School, well Central Middle School and High
School in Tulsa, and I ended up winning like Site
Teacher of the Year my first year teaching, which was incredible.

(53:13):
I loved teaching there.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
And then what happens Then I.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Lived in Broken Arrow when my kids go to Broken Arrow,
So then I interviewed at Broken Arrow and I ended
up teaching at Broken Arrow High School for about five
years after that.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
And how how was teaching at the bear at that
high school?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
It was awesome. I loved every minute of it and
it was really interesting too. So the last like three
years that I was teaching there, I would only teach
the first half of the day and then the second
half of the day it was my job to program, design,
staff everything the Vanguard Academy. So I spent three years

(53:57):
built a like a sixty person committee, had teachers, administrators,
civilians like out in the public and then students and
we all collectively came together and came up with the
concept for the Vanguard Academy, which I'm incredibly proud of
still to this day.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
What is that I'm not familiar.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah, when I got asked to do it, I was
just asked to come up with the most innovative high
school Oklahoma's ever seen, which is kind of a vague
blanket statement, right. So I toured a couple of different
schools in different states with Rogers, Arkansas, Dallas, and there
was some really interesting concepts of schools and we took

(54:38):
that and we molded to kind of fit what Broken
Arrow was wanting and meeting at the time. So, and
it's a non traditional school and like I said, that's
why I joined the Navy, Like traditional school just didn't
work for me. So this was right up my alley.
And they don't test with normal grades. The students show mastery,
you know, it's project based learning, and so they come

(55:00):
up with something to show that they have mastered whatever
subject or concept it is that they were learning at
the time. And a lot of it too, is based
on human centered design, so a lot of the projects
are designed to help the community or humanity in one
form or another.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
So is it is it a votech school or or what? Now?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
They have a traditional transcript still, but it's a it's
a normal school, but it's just project based learning and
human centered design learning.

Speaker 11 (55:35):
Right.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
I can tell you a part of it because you're
using these words to not actually describe it. Uh, what
type of student would go there?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
A lot of the more creative ones or the ones
that are more hands on. And there's different classes too,
Like I mean, you get all of the traditional like
courses and classes, but sometimes they're blended, you know, so
you could be taking a science and a math course
at the same time, depending on the project. And I

(56:06):
don't want to speak too much on it because it's
been a few years since I've been connected to the
Vanguard Academy, so I don't really want to misspeak on
what they're doing, you know, currently, I understand.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
That makes sense. Let's move on.

Speaker 7 (56:19):
We're speaking with Cody. He's our listeners are awesome. So
what now?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
What do you do? What do you do for a living? Now?

Speaker 2 (56:26):
I currently teach doctors who've become college professors how to teach,
Like they're really good clinicians, but you know, maybe they
don't have teaching experience, so setting up their lesson plans
and so I'll sit with them one on one. And
I'm working with about four different universities right now, and
I build out their entire semester forum with them. And so, yeah,

(56:46):
I teach doctors how to teach.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Do you do that in like a classroom or is
that all over the internets or what?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, it's all it's all remote.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Have you worked for a company or is this just
like your own? Uh company?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I wish No, I work for a company. It's a
it's called Evidence in Motion. So it's based on mostly
physical therapy and occupational therapy. Like those are the doctors
I work with the most.

Speaker 7 (57:15):
Man, you're pretty young, forty one, You've got some Your
life adventure is already pretty crazy. What are you going
to do after you get these teachers? I'm sorry, these
doctors able to teach?

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I don't know, man, I would love to get back
into public education. But it's they just it just doesn't
pay in US, you know, So I'll probably just keep
doing this for now.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Percentage wise.

Speaker 7 (57:43):
What's the difference in what you get paid doing teaching
doctors how to teach and teaching kids.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
What's the presence between us girls, I'd say fifty wows yea.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Why is it you don't want to go back?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
That is the only reason. If they matched my pay,
I wouldn't walk. I would run back.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah, Yeah, because you got to be able to make
a good living.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, you know, I got three kids in a mortgage.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
Because some people are gonna say, well, if you love it, it
shouldn't matter what you get paid.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah, And you know, if I was in that situation,
then that's I would love that, you know, but unfortunately
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (58:25):
I like to remind people you can't pay the mortgage
with happiness, not at all. It says here, one time
you met a Japanese star baseball player?

Speaker 9 (58:38):
I did.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
I did, sir.

Speaker 9 (58:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
This was must have been two thousand and probably two
thousand and three. There was a town and so I
was stationed in Sassago, Japan, and that's the Lower Island,
the Lower Main island of Japan and their version of
Tokyo was called Fuquoka, and so we would all go
up to Fuquoca for the week can stay the whole

(59:00):
weekend and just party like absolute rock stars. It was
nuts because, like I, we're white, you know, and the
Navy's so diverse. So we had black friends, white friends,
Native American friends, and we would all go up there
and just get treated like absolute rock stars. So one
night I'm I'm literally I'm taking a pee right and
I have like a black and mild, there's something in

(59:21):
my mouth, and there's this Dominican dude next to me
and he's like where'd you where'd you get that black
and mild? And I look at him, I'm like, at
the Navy Exchange, dude, same place you can get it,
Leave me alone or whatever. And so we get we
leave the bathroom and walk out and he just gets
swarmed by everybody, like real famous swarms and not like
us fake famous swarmed. And I was like, who is

(59:42):
this guy? And it ended up being like the Fukuoka Diehawks,
like main like baseball Star who came from the Dominican
Republican was like just an absolute like like I don't
know man, like the main player for the Yankees or whatever.
So yeah, that was fun. I that's that one up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Yeah, you didn't know until afterwards though, right no.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
And it says, yeah, I'll get it the next man.

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
And it says here you've got in a sword fight
at the Camelot in Bahrain. Now I thought Camelot was
a place in England.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Yeah, dude, you guys are telling all my stories. When
I was in Bahrain. Yeah, there was a restaurant called
the Camelot and it was like based off of a castle,
like that's how it was decorated and stuff. And so
one night we're there. We have probably fifty of us
there for some birthday party or something. And uh, the

(01:00:37):
dude that owned it, Jim was his name. He was
a Scottish guy. He uh he loved us man like
it was. He would open the bar for us and stuff.
But this night, short patrols trying to get in, so
he pulled the drawbridge up so that they literally couldn't
get in. There was a literal moat there and that's
when the party really kicked in. Like he opened the
bar and we were putting on all the like stuff

(01:01:00):
and like had a straight up like sword fighting tournament
with everybody. It was. It was incredible, Paul, Rain.

Speaker 7 (01:01:07):
Is not a big country, No, no, not at all,
And like how big is the island.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
It can't be more than four miles across, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
It's it's certainly not a big it's I can't put
it into perspective. I'd say maybe like one of the
smaller states could be equivalent.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
I'm just doing some googling as you've been talking, and
I'm shocked with how small this is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
It was a fun place, honestly, and everybody like E
four and above could have a house out in town.
So like I'm, you know, twenty years old, and I
have this massive, like three thousand square foot house with
marble floors and like a pool table, and we would
just go the biggest house parties because we would work.

(01:02:01):
We would have every other weekend off, right, So it
was it was a good time.

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
Sorry, I'm trying to do some quick math here. Yeah,
it's not. It is not a wide city, I'm sorry. Country. Yeah,
beautiful though, right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
It was. I from my roof of the house that
I lived in, I could throw a rock into the
ocean that was clear crystal clear.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Wow. Yeah, it's this is stunning.

Speaker 7 (01:02:32):
Of all the places you've lived in the Navy, where
would be a place you would love to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Move and live your life?

Speaker 11 (01:02:43):
Mmm?

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Honestly, like probably Dubai and h and I got to
spend two weeks in Dubai and that was incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
People say Dubai is gorgeous. Man. Listen, it's been fun
talking to man. Good luck with those doctors because they're
easy to deal with. And yeah, and it's been awesome
talking to you, man, And thank you for your serviceman.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Have a good day.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I see you later. That's our listeners are awesome. That
was Cody. Guys, take a break, we'll be back. The
Big Man Morning Show returns next.

Speaker 7 (01:03:19):
I didn't know this, but they are making a Friday
the thirteenth prequel.

Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
Yeah Crystal Lake.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Yeah, okay, so yeah, a very young Jason, very young,
like young young, yeah, like twelve ten twelve? And I
can't remember was he normal as a child, because they
do flashbacks and like you know some of the movies
or whatever. Was he normal or was he kind of

(01:03:45):
like a special ed kid?

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
I mean, we had a kid that was in special
ed and he he had no visual or like he
had a neurological thing, right, but he could play sports,
didn't need like any bracelets, like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
You know what I mean, right, I get what you're saying.
And I say that I asked because I remember in like, oh,
what was it like the first one or second Friday
thirteenth they show, uh, you know, there's a scene of
where the young Jason he just comes out of the water, right,
and he kind of looks like Sloth from Goonies. Yeah,
but I mean maybe that's because he'd been sitting in
the water. I don't know, but I have not heard

(01:04:26):
about this. I'm interested.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
Yeah, she called him his special boy, and I want
to but I think he may have had like maybe
Down syndrome.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
No, no, No, I think you just made that up, Lindsey.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
I don't think he didn't have Down syndrome. Jason Voorhes
didn't have downson. He may have had a social disorder, a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Little awkward or whatever. Yeah, but I don't think he
had downson. He wasn't quirky thatcher.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
Actually. I think it was that he just couldn't swim,
that was boss.

Speaker 7 (01:04:59):
Did you you just correlate can't swim and down syndrome?

Speaker 8 (01:05:03):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
But when he came out of the water, that's what
he had looked like the facial features, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
I said, Okay, I google it. No, Jason Voorhees from
five to Thirteenth Franchise does not have DOWN. In the movie,
he's depicted with a disfigured face and mental impairments, which
are attributed to a head injury and hydrocephalus. Sure build
up of fluid on the brain. Oh waterhead. Uh And

(01:05:30):
there's no indication in the films or any other official
source that he has DOWN syndrome. Damn, Lindsay, Ah, isn't
waterheads slang for something? I'm sure it is. I'm sure
it is. I feel like that's a term that's been

(01:05:53):
used for the handicapable kids. Uh. Yeah, yeah, So I'm
not saying Lindsay was right, but I'm not saying she
was far off. Yeah. I feel like that is a yeah. Okay,

(01:06:14):
So this is urban dictionary. Take it for what it's worth.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
A waterhead originally slang for someone who is hydrophallic, but
which has now come to refer to any severe idiot
or retard. A waterhead someone who lacks common sense and intelligence.

(01:06:40):
Another definition, a retard or someone being retarded.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Uh you know maybe, I mean they say that he's
said for that, but I mean I guess he got
over it because then he just went on to a
carry on a life of killing everybody. Yeah, slowly, slowly.
I don't know, man, I don't know. That cat is fast, dude,
that cat is fast, because those bitches be running from
him and then like all he seems like he's so

(01:07:11):
far away and then you know they're running and they
turn back around. There he is. Yeah, he just pops
up out of nowhere. Okay. So the word retard is
a Latin word which means slow, okay, And so to
make it a verb, they added, uh are tard is
the tartis is the Latin word okay, And then they
added re to make slow again or delay, and then

(01:07:35):
in Old French as retarder. And then in the Middle
Ages around fourteen hundreds retard in meaning to slow down,
which is a process of machine, and by the sixteen
hundreds it was just retard, and in the twentieth century
retarded became a medical term for delayed mental development or
slowed down there and in the seventies and eighties it

(01:07:57):
moved into sling or the short and retard and now
is a wide widely recognized as an offensive slur. The
word I mean, I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
I can understand somebody who's got maybe a diagnosed medical condition,
and using that word is not accurate, right right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Right, midgets dwarfs little people, which I do whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
I know plenty of people that have downs in him
that are way better human beings.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Ain't that?

Speaker 7 (01:08:30):
The truth way more capable than a lot of you
all and me included, So I could understand.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
That except for Jason Borges. He listen, he accomplished a lot.
He did. Not a nice guy though he he had
he Yeah, he's the hero of his own story. I
was gonna say, give me a list of his accomplishment
besides killing every teenager that stopped Crystal Lake. I mean,

(01:09:02):
but they were the of those kids were also bad people,
were they? They were just trying to be kids and
have fun, you know, and party and for an acade
and just enjoy life.

Speaker 7 (01:09:11):
His whole crusade is driven by the fact that camp
counselors let him drown and then lied about it. From
his point of view, he was righting the wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Yeah, boy, he's taking it out on every camp counselor that. Yeah, no,
he went scorchterirs. Yeah yeah, instead of just the ones
that let him drown.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
Wouldn't it be awesome if a certain class of people
used him as their like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Hero character. Right, look up and worship Jason before he
I mean, somebody all choose the punisher and he ain't
a good dude, right, yeah? Right? Punishers are made up. Person.

Speaker 7 (01:09:49):
Can't some group of people use Jason? But he was
standing up for people that because no one stood up
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, by murdering all of them, right idea? His poor presentation,
poor execution, His heart was in the right spot. He
tried to kill, didn't he? Did he kill Freddy Krueger?

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
He tried to. They fought each other a draw.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I think it was well.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
Actually the end scene you see Jason walk out of
the lake with Freddy's head, and then Freddy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Winks and Freddy versus Jason. The ending is intentionally ambiguous,
but Jason Vorhees emerges as the victor and the physical confrontation,
though Freddy Krueger's spirit lives on while Jason inflicts the
final blow and carries Freddy's severed head. The final scene
shows Freddy winking hank at the audience, suggesting his survival

(01:10:47):
and continued influence.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
Yeah, because Freddy technically is already daddy, just lives in
your dreams.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Well they're both dad, yeah, yes. Which, by the way,
Jason Vorhees drowned right as he was like what ten?
I think? So somehow he grows through all these years
under this monster of a man.

Speaker 12 (01:11:09):
Yeah, he should have just been a ten year old
boy doing all the slang, right, How did he continue
to grow? He should have been okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
And the sequels, Jason's corpse has repeatedly dug up or
disturbed each time something about the lake or dark magic
brings him back to life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
So every time he has to come, that's when he grows.

Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
I guess over time he adopts the hockey mask and
becomes more legend than man, an unstoppable force driven by
rage and revenge, not by anything human.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
I think it was the third one is when he
acquired his hockey mask, because the first two he had
like a tater sack over his head. He's like a
burlap sack, you know what I mean. And then it
was that one nerdy kid that kept trying to play,
you know, practical jokes on a body scaring him. He
had that mask, and then when he killed that guy,

(01:12:03):
that's when he took the mask and became the Jason
that we all know.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
Was that played by Corey Feldman.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
I don't think so. No, No, he was in one
of them. I know.

Speaker 7 (01:12:13):
So this says in the first movie you see his
corpse at the bottom of the lake, and then the
second one that changed everything where he climbed out and
lived and he lived in the woods around Crystal Lake
and he ate wild game and whatever he could scavenge,
which feels like a great movie.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
I'm not lying. I think that's a great movie idea,
rather than him as a boy, right yeah, watching him
get bullied, yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:12:39):
And then the lore that the dark power of the
lake kept him undead, but he physically aged like a
kid left.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
So he was a kid in a man's body, so
like Chunk from Goonies. Yeah, and after his death in
part two, each time his body has disturbed, some voodoo
style magic brings him back, bigger, older, stronger. Mm hmm,
that's stupid. What a stupid movie. They're good. I watched

(01:13:12):
all fifteen of them, and I'll probably watch this one
too when it comes around.

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
They are all stupid in a in the best horror
movie way, except for Jason in Space.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
That movie sucked so bad.

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
Yes, that was terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I went to the theater and saw it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:28):
Oh, I think I did too, and I think we
walked out that one. And Jason Takes Manhattan was pretty
bad as well.

Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
Are you sure you're not confusing that with muppets take Manhattan?

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
This is field, Jill. Have you met il All right,
we got to take a break. We'll be back Tilsa's
Morning Show, The Big Bad Morning Show. There.

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
He's now in the studio is Jeff Hensley of Hensley Associate.
It's good morning, Jeff, Hey, good morning. Jeff's here to
answer any question you have about family law, custody, guardianship,
name change, any of those scenarios and more that I
have to do with family law, and he's here to
answer them.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
At nine one eight.

Speaker 7 (01:14:05):
I'm sorry, eight three three four six oho KMOD, or
you can text your question BMMS and whatever that question
is to eight two nine four five, or maybe if
you'd like to do it via email, you can show
at kmod dot com. I like to bring up things
that are happening in the news.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
As a point for you.

Speaker 8 (01:14:21):
Too, I always do a check before I come in
to make sure that I'm like, what's Corbyn gonna ask
me this time? I got to and I read popular
stuff anyway, so you know, to keep on top of
it because it's interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
Well, this one's sucking the news cycle and it has
to do with a two people getting caught at a
concert cheat. If you find that your spouse doing that,
does it gain you any more.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Power or rights in a divorce? Obviously depends on the state,
But in the state of Oklahoma, does it gain you
anymore when you discover it in such a public manner?

Speaker 8 (01:14:53):
So just a quick, a little side. Remember the Simpsons
predicted this in two thousand and three, and second of all,
look it up and it's freaky what those guys do?
You know, if you're going it depends on what you claim.
I mean. Remember ninety nine point nine percent of people
file is incompatibility, which is no fault divorced in Oklahoma.
The reason being is because there's no burden right there.

(01:15:15):
You don't have to prove anything. It's just we don't
get along for whatever reason. You don't even have to
state what the reason is and you can get the
divorce done. Now, remember we've talked about in the past,
there are eleven different claims you can make when filing
for divorce, from incompatibility to extreme cruelty to inability to

(01:15:36):
have children to abandon. I mean, there's a whole list,
and I no one ever claims them, so I don't
ever memorize. There's only one that I've ever used other
than incompatibility, and that's adultery. Okay, now, the only two
times in almost twenty years of doing this that I
have filed that is because it's typically tied to the

(01:15:56):
fact that somebody works in a church position and they're
wanting to embarrass them to their congregation. I've had that
happened twice in twenty years. Other than that, everybody else
fails in compatibility. The reason being is because when you
file for something other than incompatibility or no fault, you
now have a burden of proof you have to now
prove to the court in some way. So is it

(01:16:17):
helpful in a divorced situation when you claim adultery and
you've got video of some you know guy, your ex
or soon to be X holding another woman or your
wife holding another dude. Absolutely, right, it's just bizarre. Can
you use that? Absolutely? I mean that now you've met

(01:16:38):
your burden of proof because you have your proof. Okay,
you could be text messages, it could be you know,
you could hire a private investigator to follow them, or
I mean, there's all sorts of things you can use
for that proof. But again, you now have built yourself
a level of having to prove something to the to
the court as opposed in compatibility. But yes, I mean
it would be super helpful for when the uh wife

(01:17:03):
is filing to force against her multi billion dollar husband.

Speaker 7 (01:17:07):
It's just to help you get the doors. Granted, it
doesn't get you more weight and get.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Your money or anything.

Speaker 8 (01:17:12):
Right, You're not gonna get more money, you're not going
to get more time with your kids, You're not going
to get more. Alimony all based at least not in Oklahoma. Okay,
alimony is not based upon who committed what and how
long and all that. Some states do that kind of stuff. Again,
remember alimony and Oklahoma's only based on need and ability
to pay, not it's not punitive for meaning, you can't

(01:17:33):
punish somebody for what they've done through alimony and Oklahoma.

Speaker 7 (01:17:36):
Jeff Finsley from Hensley Associates is in the studio to
answer your questions. You can email show at kmod dot com.
You can text BMMS and whatever your question is to
A two nine four five, or you can call at
eight through three four six, Oh KMOD like Phil?

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Did Phil? Go ahead? You're on with Jeff Heinsley of
Heinsley Associates.

Speaker 9 (01:17:53):
Hey, Jeff, I got a quick question. My daughter had
a baby with a gentleman and they're not married. They
just lived together. But she gave the baby his last name,
and she wants to move away without him, and she'd
do it without him doing anything since his last name.

Speaker 8 (01:18:15):
So can she move away? The answer is yes, all right,
Just understand something. So in the state of Oklahoma since
November first of twenty eleven, so for the last thirteen
almost fourteen years now, the law has been dads have
zero rights to their children when they're born out of
wedlock unless until they file something with the court in
some way. So what that means is if she wants

(01:18:35):
to move away, she'd break up with them, move away.
She can do that. Just understand that if he files
before the six month timeframe runs. Where's she moving to?
She moved in different state or a different town, or.

Speaker 9 (01:18:45):
What I should have started off with. She lives in Arizona,
wanting to move here.

Speaker 8 (01:18:52):
Okay, so let's back up. Got a new piece of information.
I have no clue what the law is in Arizona
when it were comes to paternity cases. Okay. I unfortunately, Matt,
I don't practice there, and I think have only been
to Arizona twice in my life, so I don't know
what their laws are in regards to paternity. So first
she needs to contact somebody where she lives, an attorney

(01:19:13):
who does paternity cases, and ask what the law is
in Arizona. So everything I just told you before is
dealing with Oklahoma law if she were a resident of Oklahoma.
She's not a resident of Oklahoma. So unfortunately, she's going
to need to contact somebody in whatever town she lives
in and talk to them and see what their laws
are because paternity laws vary from state to state, and

(01:19:35):
so you want to make sure that it's specific for
that state and she's not doing something that would be
in violation of state law in Arizona.

Speaker 9 (01:19:43):
I appreciate you. I thought I should have started off with.

Speaker 8 (01:19:47):
No, No, that's fine. I mean, it's always good for
us to cover that with our listeners about what Oklahoma
law is. It's just I can't speak for Arizona because again,
it varies from state to state, and I don't want
her to do something that would be in violation state laws.
So it's always best for her to check in with
her local lawyer there in whatever town she lives in.

Speaker 9 (01:20:05):
Right on, man, I appreciate you, thank you well.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
All right, buddy, good luck if it were here, what
would be what can like choices be?

Speaker 8 (01:20:12):
Yeah, like I was saying, you know, she can move away,
but understand that if he files something before she's been
in another state for six months, because remember that would
be defining on the home state of the child, that
sort of thing, then she's going to have to deal
with everything here in Oklahoma. So you know, that's always
the chance you run when you just up and move.
And again, you can do that in a paternity case.

(01:20:32):
You cannot do that in a divorced situation. But in
a paternity case, because you have sole custody under state law,
you're allowed to do that. So but just be aware
that the father might file and if they do so
before you've been in another state for six months, then
you're gonna have to deal with everything here in Oklahoma
because Oklahoma would be considered the home state of the child.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
How does that work? If it was like in Norman
and that person wanted to relocate back to Tulsa, with
the same six months rule would apply.

Speaker 8 (01:21:00):
The six month rule only applies if you're moving out
of state, not within state from city to city. So
you know, if you remember, there's something called the UCCJEA
that's Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction Enforcement Act. It's the act
that defines what the home state of the child is
and it's typically about six months for whatever state you're
moving into. But that doesn't apply from city to city. Now,

(01:21:22):
when you're talking about counties, Okay, for example, we have
to file any documents and whatever county you live in,
whether it be Tulsa County or if you're down in Norman,
that's Cleveland County, or if you're in Oklahma County or
wherever it Camanchee County and Lawton or whatever it may be,
all right, you have to have been a resident of
that county for thirty days before you can file in
that county. So if she moves from Norman to Tulsa,

(01:21:44):
can't file anything in Tulsa until she's been in here
thirty days. Otherwise, the dad, if he lives in Norman,
could file down there in Locker in the Cleveland County
as opposed to Tulsa County.

Speaker 7 (01:21:53):
Jeff Finsley from Hensley the Associates is here. If you have
a question about divorce or custody or guardianship are named
change really anything that has to do with family law
that it's even broader than that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Jeff can answer that. He's in the studio right now
to answer those questions or feel those questions. You can
email Show at kmod dot com. You can text bmms
and whatever that question is to eight two nine four five,
or you can call at eight three three four six
oh kmo D and Jeff will answer that question for
you right now. Again that's eight three three four six

(01:22:25):
oh kmo D and Mark is on the line.

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
Mark, go ahead, what's your question for Jeff? From Hensley
and Associates.

Speaker 11 (01:22:31):
So what question for Jeff is is like, so I
tuned in right when he was talking to the previous
fellow about having a child out of wedlock, Yeah, and
having and the father having no rights to the baby, right,
Did I hear that correctly?

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
That is that's you did it.

Speaker 8 (01:22:47):
That's been the law since November first, or twenty eleven,
the legislature decided to change the law. And that is
the law that dads who are unmarried have been living
under for the last fourteen and a half years now,
are thirteen and a half years now. So the law
has not been challenged that I'm aware of, and it
has not been a returned at this point. And so
that's the aw that Oklahoma has and it's been that

(01:23:08):
way for long time now.

Speaker 11 (01:23:10):
So what do I You were singing something about filing
something at the court, what is that the right means
to file?

Speaker 8 (01:23:18):
So what we have to do is we have to
file what's called a petition to determine paternity. Okay. So
what that means is, even if you're on the birth certificate,
even if they have your last name, Okay, even if
you've signed in acknowledgment at the hospital that the child
is yours, that only gives you what they call a
presumption that the child is yours. So to make the
child yours under the law, we have to file a

(01:23:38):
petition that says, hey, I am biological dad, I am
the presumed father, and therefore I should have the same
rights as any other father who has a child in wedlock.
So we follow a petition for that, and of course
we also deal with custody, visitation, and child support in
those same documents as well. So that's what we have
to do, unfortunately, and that's what the law has been
for a while now. And I represent a lot. I mean,

(01:24:00):
I represent both sides, but I represent a lot of
dads in these issues because you know, we've got established
that you've got the same rights and you should see
your kid too.

Speaker 11 (01:24:08):
Definitely. Yeah, thank you for answering that. I decided come
in in the middle of that last conversation and I
heard that, and it it just I had to figure,
you know, I had to find out what you were saying.

Speaker 8 (01:24:17):
And it's it's unfortunate because you know, again, and I've
said this, I think all the time since we started
this segment a while back, is if you don't like
the law in Oklahoma or you think it stinks, obviously,
reach out to your local legislator, either someone from the
House representatives or a state senator and talk to them
about why you think it stinks and they can help
get that change. But they're the only ones that have
the power for that change, So talk to your legislator.

Speaker 11 (01:24:40):
All right, Well thanks you loll Jeff your later.

Speaker 7 (01:24:42):
Uh yeah, you've mentioned that for a long time, and
the text that we just got kind of is in
step with that. What are my steps to gaining full
custody as a father if mom is unfit to care
for my daughter if we was never married.

Speaker 8 (01:24:55):
Well, so again, we'd have to file a paternity action
if mom is unfit. I mean, obviously we'd make that
claim and say that mama's unfit and should only have
supervised visitation or whatever it may be. But yeah, we
would do the same process. We'd still have to file
for paternity to have that legally established, whether it be
through Let me back up, so there's two ways to
establish paternity. DHS can do it through a DHS child

(01:25:19):
support administration issue where they're trying to collect child support.
They can legally find you to be dad. But remember
DHS when it comes to child support only has the
power to do with money. They have no power whatsoever
or authority to do with custody, visitation, any of that stuff.
So you know, setting up money is easy. But when
we need to get in there and talk about custody visitation,

(01:25:40):
that's when you give us a call so we can
get those issues taken care of for you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Can you do all that at the same time or
do you have to do the first part, which is
establishing paternity.

Speaker 11 (01:25:49):
We can.

Speaker 8 (01:25:50):
It's all kind of part and parcel. I mean, we
file a petition. In the petition, we say that your dad,
you should have the same rights as any other father
and that you're asking for a joint custody in fifty
to fifty time or whatever it is that you want
to ask for, and then we deal with it that way.
So absolutely, I mean again, this is the problem that
the legislature has dealt us for the last thirteen years,
and we can help you with that, get that straightened out.

Speaker 7 (01:26:12):
Jeff Hensley from Hinsley Associates is in the studio to
answer questions about divorce and custody and guardianship and maybe
adult guardianship or adult adoption. Those are all things that
Jeff can help with and the folks at heinsleyan Associates
are glad to assist you on. This is a Texa
came in it said, can I make my ex stop
bringing their new boyfriend around our daughter?

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
He gives me a bad vibe.

Speaker 8 (01:26:34):
So you're going to need more than just a bad vibe. Now,
if mom has a new boyfriend, and boyfriend's been convicted
of felons or felonies, if he has been convicted of
child molestation, if he has been convicted of you know,
he's a sex offender and has to register. I mean,
there's all sorts of things we can do and look at.
If that is the issue, and I have had those

(01:26:55):
issues pop up over time throughout the years, we can
deal with that. But just having quote a bad vibe
or a bad feeling is not enough. I mean, there
has to be something that has actually happened, they've been
charged with and convicted of, or something has to have
happened to the child. I mean, our system, and I've
said this for years, and this is the only way
to know how to describe it is is our system

(01:27:16):
is reactionary. The entire legal system all over the United
States and pretty much most of the world is reactionary.
Something has to happen before the law can deal with it,
so otherwise you're dealing with a minority report Tom Cruise
moving and obviously we saw how awful that was, so
you know it's reactionary. So something has to happen, a

(01:27:37):
bad vibe or a bad feel, or you don't like
that they've got crooked teeth and bad breath. That's not enough.
You have to have much, much more than that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Jeff Heinsley's here from Hensley Associates. This might be a
little bit out of what we normally talk about. From
jeffs For Jeff, does an employer have any liabilities if
they provide a resonance as part of employment and an
employee commits espousaled domestic violence in the residence and the
residence is located on employer's property.

Speaker 8 (01:28:03):
So I will have to say I have zero clue,
but I will tell you to call Sam Allison in
our PAHUSCA office. He handles all of those kind of
questions and can definitely get you an answer. I don't
do employment law. I've never done employment law. I know
there's a domestic violence issue, it sounds like so that
might sound like it ties into family law, and it
might from a divorced situation. But when dealing with in

(01:28:24):
employer's property and things like that. Give Sam a call.
He can get you to answering that.

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
Yeah, the folks at Hinsland Associates can help with that.
But today we're just talking about family law and the
effects the questions you have on family law. This text
says we're just starting to look into adoption and want
to know how long does the whole process usually take
from start to finish, So.

Speaker 8 (01:28:46):
That varies from county to county, but the minimum amount
of time, according to the statute is supposed to be
six months. Under the statute, there has to be six
months time that pass technically, although I have seen it
done quicker in smaller counties. Bigger counties, typic take much
much longer.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
There you go. That's like the cleanest answer.

Speaker 8 (01:29:06):
That's all I got to say, is yeah, I mean, seriously,
it's it's really as I explained in time and money
and everything to everybody is it's all based upon the
parties involved. We're stuck with the judges time schedules as
far as when their dates are open on their calendar
and all that stuff. When we can't control pandemics and
holidays and floods and you know all that stuff. So
you know the law says minimum of six months, but

(01:29:29):
there are exceptions to the rules. So give me a
call directly to my office and we can definitely go
through your scenario and find out exactly what is working
best for you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Jefferman's and Associates is in the studio studio to answer
your questions about family law, whether it's guardianship or custody,
or adoptions or divorce. And you can get your question
to us by calling eight through three four six, oh KMOD.
You can email show at kmod dot com, or you
can text bmms and whatever that question is to eight
to nine four five.

Speaker 7 (01:29:57):
My spouse and I are actually on decent terms. We
just want to split and move on. Do we really
have to go through a whole court process or can
we work it out ourselves?

Speaker 8 (01:30:06):
So you still have to if you want to divorce,
you still have to file a petition, You still have
to file a decree. Now do you have to do
If you truly are in agreement on everything you know?
Good for you, that's great. It saves you lots of
time and money doing that. If you are, then obviously
we can get that done and you don't have to
do discovery, you don't have to do mediation, you don't

(01:30:27):
have to do all the stuff in the middle. We
can skip from A to B if you truly are
in agreement. Now I understand again, if you have children,
you have to You know, the judges have to wait
ninety days before they can sign on a decree. So
that means if we have a signed decree between the
two of you ready to go for a judge on
day thirteen, the judge would still have to wait till

(01:30:47):
day ninety to sign it. Now we can always ask
for a waiver of that ninety days. Small counties are
very good with giving waivers. We have seen Tulsa County
take a change. They used to have a very firm
and hard policy of no waivers, but we have seen
some get through in the last year or so. So
that's always an option. If you do not have children,
there only has to be a minimum of ten days

(01:31:09):
that transpires between when you file and when you get
your decrease signed. So you know, whoever this is, please
give me a call. We'd be happy to help and
get that taken care for you and get you done.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
And over with longest ten days ever right right, It
could be just saying from my experience, well and again.

Speaker 8 (01:31:25):
Well, yeah, yeah, I can see that, you know, but
if they're getting along, you know great. I mean it's
better to strike when they aren't hot and get it
done so that they can move on with their lives
as opposed to letting things happen in fester over time.
And that's when it goes to Helen A.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
Handcart Jefferman's and Associates is in the studio to answer
your questions about family law. Earlier, we were talking about
if a child is born out of wedlock and the
steps to do that. This person's wanting to know what
if a child is born out of wedlock, but years
later the couple gets married.

Speaker 8 (01:31:53):
So a lot of times. Okay, so you've got several
potentially several issues there, and it doesn't sound like they're asking, well,
what would happen in a divorce? So let's maybe break
it up into three different answers. Okay, their first one
being is, let's say there is a divorce, can you
claim that child as a child of the marriage during that? Yeah,

(01:32:13):
you could potentially, although it depends, and it depends on
a lot of different factors. If the child is the
biological child the two people, Yes, we could do that.
If the child has a different last name for some reason, like,
for example, the mom decided to give the child her

(01:32:33):
last name since they weren't married, and now they want
to give the child a new last name or the
father's last name, we can do name changes on that.
I mean, you've got all sorts of options here on
what can be done. But yes, I mean typically we
see that happen. We'll have people that are together, you know,
say they get together at twenty ten, and they have
a baby at twenty fifteen, and they get married at

(01:32:55):
twenty eighteen, and then they get divorced at twenty twenty five,
and is that child lists to another Typically yes, because
it's biologically theirs. Now, if you had a child that
was born during a marriage that is not a product
of the two people of the marriage, that's a completely
different scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
But if if I'm dating somebody and we have a kid, yeah,
I have to prove that I'm the father, correct.

Speaker 8 (01:33:18):
I mean that's up to you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
I mean, you're only I want to be involved in
the kid's life.

Speaker 8 (01:33:22):
Well, that's that's up to use people. So I see
where you're going with this.

Speaker 7 (01:33:25):
Because the question I think they're asking is if if
we're just dating and we have a kid out of
wed locker, I would have to prove that I want
to be involved in the kid's life right essentially, and
then when we get married, does that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Law or rule just go away? And I'm just yes,
automatically the father.

Speaker 8 (01:33:42):
Yes, that law and rule just kind of goes away.
It's dumb. Again, contact your legislator, and I think the
idea behind it. And remember when where we have a
law input or put in the law and a judge
has to look at that law, they always have to
go to what they think the legislative intent was right,
What was the intent of the legislature when they put

(01:34:04):
this line to effect? And I think some of this
and this is you know, this is not this is
this is Jeff speaking after years of doing this is.
I think it's just done to be streamlined. Because again,
if you don't have any issues between the time you
start dating, you have the baby, and when you get
married and there's no issues there and you are the
biological parents both of you, there's no need to go

(01:34:24):
in and file a paternity action. You only do that
typically if you need access to the child or visitation
or whatever because you guys are split up and one
side is not letting the other. I mean, if you're
all getting along about everything when you get married, then
it is what it is. I think it's just for streamlining.
That's my personal opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Listen, these things can get complicated.

Speaker 7 (01:34:42):
There could be many different types of questions, and no
two questions are the same, even though they may be
the same topic. That's why you need to talk with
Jeff and the folks at Hinsley Associates and get the
best feedback you can about your specific situation. Well, we've
worked with Jeff to set up a fifteen minute free consultation.
You just got to mention KMOD when you're call. The
phone number is nine eight three nine eight five six

(01:35:03):
nine two three nine eight five six ninety two for
Hensland Associates and mentioned KMOD and Jeff. We'll talk with
you over the phone and you guys can hash out
some of those details. If you find yourself outside of
family law and needing help maybe with an employee benefits
or contract situation. Jeff and Heinsling, Jeff and the folks
in Hinsling Associates can help with that now too.

Speaker 8 (01:35:24):
Absolutely, if you've got a domestic violence issue and those
sorts of things, if you give Sam Ellison a call
up in our pro Husca office, Okay, talk to him,
he can definitely help you with those situations. We've got
all sorts of cases up there in addition to family
law up there, so you know, if you've got a
like I said, if you've got a criminal issue, if
you've got a contract issue, if you've got an employment issue,

(01:35:44):
if you've got you know, land dispute, or you've got
property dispute or whatever it may be. Anything in addition
to family law, same can help you with. I'm now
up in Pasco once a week so I can be
up there to answer questions for you as well. So
please give us a call up there. If you don't
find their number for some reason, give us a call
in Tulsa then nine five six nine two. We can

(01:36:05):
hook you up and get you a call from Sam
so he can help you out with those issues.

Speaker 7 (01:36:09):
Jeff from Henson Associates mentioned Camodi six nine two, Jeff,
have a great week.

Speaker 8 (01:36:15):
Hey too, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Back Tilsea's Morning Show, The Big Man Boarding Show, The
Assault continues to Natt. Tilman was a NFL player for
the Arizona Cardinals, and he decided to leave the NFL
and join the United States Army as a Special Forces
special operator, I should say, And then he served in

(01:36:36):
a rack in Afghanistan and was killed. Yeah friendly fire.
Looks like a badass, yes, Yeah, he definitely looks the
part for sure. Oh yeah, And uh been plenty of
things you know to commemorate him and honor him, and
and him going forget you football my calling. Yeah. Yeah.

(01:36:59):
And his brother is in the news now.

Speaker 7 (01:37:03):
Very bizarre story where Pat Tillman's brother is in trouble
because of a car crash into a San Jose post office.
Richard Tillman drove into the Almeden Valley post office early
Sunday morning. It triggered an explosion that caused the post office.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
To go up in flames. Now, authorities say.

Speaker 7 (01:37:33):
That the brother, Richard Tilman, drove into the post office intentionally,
and he's been booked on numerous charges. And apparently there
were containers strewn about that had like Pat's picture in it.

(01:37:54):
The thing that's interesting about this is it could be
a nothing burger and that it's just his name is Tillman. Yeah,
and therefore it flashes. But it could be something else too.
It could be a grief thing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
You think he might be so grief stricken, that's why
he drove into the post office.

Speaker 7 (01:38:16):
I'm thinking it could be maybe he spiraled afterwards, never recovered.
I know plenty of people that someone they love passes
away and they deal with the pain by medicating in
some capacity, and then what becomes a temporary thing becomes
a permanent thing and they can't manage it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Okay, twenty years later though, twenty one years later, Oh yeah,
trauma cuts deep, man. Okay, some people can't kick it,
or they feel like all these things start compounding on
top of each other. Gotcha, Okay, I guess it kind
of makes sense.

Speaker 7 (01:38:55):
And it took like fifty personnel. It was a two
alarm fire, and so there were stories of like people
waking up to the explosions of what had happened. And
there's even rumors that he streamed this online while he
was doing it. It's almost like the more it happens,

(01:39:19):
the more it makes it sound like this was a
planned situation, right, and there use the US Postal Inspection
Service is heading this, which, if you know anything about
how they deal with that stuff, they throw the book
at people. They do not like you messing with the mail.

(01:39:42):
It is a crazy story. I did not expect to
see that this guy would be in the news just
because of his brother.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
Right. Yeah, it says here that he told off asers
that he was live streaming. Yet so I mean, okay,
the guy is he's a low rent actor, but he's
been in some things. So maybe purely speculation here, but

(01:40:16):
maybe he did do it on purpose. Maybe he did
live streaming to try to get his you know name
back out there. It's like if you want people talking
about you as a celebrity and make a sex tape.

Speaker 7 (01:40:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not an agent. I am not an
acting consultant. I am definitely not someone who couldn't help
you figure out how to be famous. I do not think,
with all that being said, I do not think crashing
your vehicle into a federal building is a good idea
to raise your stock value. No, nobody's gonna go, well,

(01:40:49):
we were gonna we weren't didn't know he was. But
did you see this guy who crashed his car into
a post office? Now, if you jumped it through the air. Okay,
and Duke's a hazard style. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong on

(01:41:09):
that with that that setup.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Trying to be a stunt man, you know, putting together
your own real.

Speaker 7 (01:41:14):
Okay, then yeah, okay, that feels like I can connect
those dots. Likewise, And I could be wrong about this
because I have not seen every award speech ever getting
for someone that wins best award their best actor. I
don't think they ever say I was no one until
I crashed into XYZ, I caused a major fire on

(01:41:37):
a federal building, and then after that I became this
great actor. So I don't think it's an acting thing.
Probably I'm gonna go with drugs.

Speaker 6 (01:41:47):
Yeah, it's possible lost his mind.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
I'm gonna go with drugs. Okay, it feels like a
drug thing. Maybe there's also this, there's.

Speaker 7 (01:42:00):
The brazenness of people nowadays shouldn't be shocking, but it
continues to be shocking that you think it is your
job to destroy weather radars.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
And things like that because you think something's happening. It
could be that too. Oh, you think he might have
smashed into the post office because he wanted to get
his report card before his mama got it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:20):
No, like he thinks the post office is bad okay,
and they're propagating X y Z kind of like what
that guy did with that weather radar.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Down in Oklahoma City. Yeah, his belief was or he
was a part of a group of people that believed
that weather radars create weather. Oh got it. He made
a sex tape and he was mailing it to his
girlfriend and he wanted to get that sex tape back
because you know.

Speaker 7 (01:42:49):
And he borrowed the car, yes, from the dweebye kid
in the in his in his dorm room.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
Yes, because he did. They didn't he didn't have one, Zach,
And he was like, I bet we can jump it.
He's gone, I'm gonna jump. I'm gonna jump out of
the car land On. The route didn't work out and
they just crashed straight into it. And ironically, I think
you're right. I think I read this earlier.

Speaker 7 (01:43:11):
The night before he was at a fraternity house of
some African American gentlemen, Yes, to try and think he
would get a place to stay in a save meal.
One of the other guys in the car was like, Hey,
I know a place.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
This is a movie that's we're describing a movie that's
exactly how I went down, pretty sure.

Speaker 7 (01:43:31):
Yeah, and he hits the tape back, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
No, he decides he doesn't want to be with her
any Yeah, because he found something better anyhow. Yeah, see
all that for nothing, just watched the movie and found
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