BMMS 7-28-25

Welcome Back From The Weekend!!! We Talk About The Best & Worst Parts, Men Are Getting More And More Penis Implants Done, We Talk To An Awesome Listener, Chuck E. Cheese Gets Arrested At Work, Phil Collins Isn't In Hospice, & Billy Joel Has A Documentary Out!!!

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Speaker 8 (04:20):
I found this article this morning as I was harvesting stuff.
And men are getting more and more plastic surgery. Yeah,
and I'm not sure. Like when I saw the headline,
I was like, I wonder what they could be getting.

Speaker 7 (04:37):
Now.

Speaker 8 (04:37):
I've heard of guys getting calf implants. I've heard of
guys getting peck implants. I've heard of guys getting liposuction.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, hair implants exactly.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's a good one too.

Speaker 7 (04:51):
Yeah, I'm thinking more along the lines and get in
their face jacked up, bring it up some maybe some
some jawlines, oko, some cheek maybe even uh. Yeah. There
are some doozy of pictures of celebrities that have gone
through all celebrities that have gone through plastic surgery, not
just carrot Top. No, Yeah, the Franco kid, is it

(05:15):
Dave Dave? Yeah, because James is the one that's friends
with Seth, right, and I think it's Dave that's gotten
some plastic surgery lately that it's like, oof, brother.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I don't either.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
I got I got a subscription to the Dave Franco Weekly,
and you know it's showing pictures.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's good telling what he's up to. Yeah, he's doing neighbors.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
For the actor that surprises me the most was he
used to be so good looking and now he's almost unrecognizable.
He was in high school musical and then he played
Ted Bundy in the Netflix movie His Name is Escaping
Me Now. Oh but he was. He was a few
years younger than me. Yeah, Zach Effery, Yes, Zach Efron.

(06:02):
He was such a good looking guy and now he
just I don't know, he's unrecognizable to me.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
That's the one I was thinking of. Oh, okay, old
Zachi boy.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
Description, Well, the biggest category isn't here. It isn't calf,
it isn't peck, it isn't botox. It's penis filler.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Really, I was just joking, but okay, are you really
that insecure about your manhood that you're like, all right, doc,
plump it up or whatever.

Speaker 8 (06:38):
So I don't know if men know this, but when
you when a woman gets breast augmentation, they have their consultation.
Now maybe it's changed, but they have their consultation. They
what do you what are you at? It looks like
you're an a What do you want to go to?
I don't want to go bigger than a C. Well, understand,
C is very subjective. Right, you go and pick a

(07:02):
braw up at Victoria's secret as a sea. It might
not be a sea from whatever other place.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
Right, you got large seas, small seas, medium seas.

Speaker 8 (07:14):
Well not, but it's relatively just a se right, And
so you go to the and you're like, hey, I
want to see and the doctor's like okay, And then
they just filled with liquid what they think is a
sea or what the standard is as a sea, and
they may go, well, that looks a little off and
add a little bit more, maybe add a little bit less,
And overwhelmingly women come out of surgery with bigger than

(07:35):
they expected. I'm not sure how it works with penis filler. Yeah,
I can't imagine having a conversation. Do you hold your
hands up to talk tell the doctor what you're looking for, right?

Speaker 7 (07:47):
Yeah? Pants, hands up? This is what I got, doc,
This is okay. I need something bigger than this. I
wonder you know how some women have breast reduction surgery. Yeah.
Are there guys that have penile reduction surgeries?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
They're like so well off.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
They're like, I gotta take this down a notch because
this is too much doubt it. Well.

Speaker 8 (08:09):
Women usually only get breast reduction surgery if there is
a medical problem with their implant, okay, or there is
a medical necessity, like their back hurts right right, because
they're natural and they weigh fricking fifteen pounds each year.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah. I have a girlfriend who is who would love
to have it done because I don't know that it
causes her so much back pain. I'm sure insurance is like, sorry.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's cosmetic.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Yeah, and this few percentage are like I'm not tired
of having big boobs, right right. So I don't know
if men would do that. Men would just be like
I'm not going back saying I want it smaller.

Speaker 7 (08:50):
Right, I can't find pants that fit anymore. I'm tired
of wearing sweatpants everywhere.

Speaker 8 (08:56):
And Lindsay mentioned Ruler, and I think you're overstepp be
what most guys look for, and that's more like a
TUNICN scenario.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
Right right, right, So they're there with the tailor's tape
if you know what I'm talking Fabrica, Yes, yes, the
one that goes around. Yes, you're like I am, I
am one. I need at least to three.

Speaker 8 (09:20):
And when you go and do the consultation for a
breast enlargement, they tell you the different models and styles
and things, the way to do it. Do you want
to behind the muscle? Do you want it in front
of the muscle? You want us to go in the
arm pit? Do you want us to go under the breadth?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Like?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
What are the options with a penis filler?

Speaker 7 (09:37):
Is there?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm under the muscle.

Speaker 7 (09:43):
Right, gotta go in through the top? Do you go
in through the bottom? I think if it was me,
I would probably have them go through the taint, if
that's possible, Like, if that's where you because that's where
your scar is going to be and hardly anybody's going
to see that you know what I mean. But if
you got like, you know, it looks like you have
like a C section scar, that could be that could

(10:05):
be embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
I mean, would it?

Speaker 7 (10:09):
What's that scar from? Right? Let's just let's play that
out for a second. You get with the goal for
the first time she's fooling around, she's like, oh my,
and she notices this scar right above your man. What's
that from? Then you have to tell her that that's
not natural. I have implants, right.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
But that women.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
Guys don't do that with breast implants. Some you can
tell their boltons, some you can't. So guys don't go, well,
what's this scar underneath your boob?

Speaker 7 (10:44):
True? If I see a scar under a boob, are
automatically know what's going on there for the most part.
But I guess you're right.

Speaker 8 (10:50):
But guys are stupid though, They just like boobs. So
there are four different types of filler that are used.
Transfer You use your own fat as long as we
don't take it from my ass.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Right, take it from a good yeah lnase, which is
a biosimulatory longer lasting.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
It can last up to three years. You gotta get it.

Speaker 8 (11:20):
Changed, so it's yeah p MMA a polymethyl methacrylate whatever.
Semi permanent. They're microbeads to simulate collagen, not easily reversible.
And then the most common is called holeronic acid, which

(11:42):
I don't love the name of that.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Can we quit change the name?

Speaker 7 (11:45):
And it is temporary six to eighteen months?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Wow, and then you're getting it done again.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Are taken out? I guess.

Speaker 8 (11:53):
Filler is injected under the skin of the shaft. Medical
term local anesthetic is used. Takes about thirty to sixty minutes,
no scalpel, no general and results are immediate, but final
shape settles over a few weeks.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
So you could end up like a balloon animal type. Yeah, oh,
this is totally misshaken. Here's a rose.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Right draft right, So they'll probably tell you don't sleep
on your on your stomach, then sleep on your back
so it settles nicely and doesn't reshape.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
What's this flat spot on your wainer?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Right?

Speaker 8 (12:32):
Like a baby's morning they lose part of their hair
on what's sad exactly? Girth can increase by one to
three centimeter centimeters depending on how much is used. Length
is not affected and it looks natural if done right.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Sensation and hardness are usually unaffected, but it can cause distortion.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
There's that. Yep, penile distortion.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
Sixteen eighteen months is how long it lasts. There's another
one of the other ones last about two to eighteen
or two to five years. Risks, swelling, bruising, lumps, asymmetry, uh, infection,
nerve damage, migration, filler moving to another area.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, think about that.

Speaker 8 (13:24):
Overfilling or an unnatural shape and ED is rare, but
it is possible. Make sure you go see a skilled injector.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
That's what it says.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
And even and are there because this seems like a
newer thing within the past few years.

Speaker 8 (13:40):
Probably I'm gonna keep reading this. Gimpy, look up penis
filler Oklahoma.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
You're trying to set an appointment.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
No, I'm just curious if there are people here. Yeah,
it can cost anywhere between three and fifteen thousand, depending
on volume and clinic. Now Gimpee has said he'll do
any endorsement.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
Yeah for money. Oklahoma Men's Clinic does fallow Phil safe
and effective penyle girth enhancements. The Bliss Medical Spa does
male enhancement in Oklahoma City. Tulsa's men Clinic Tulsa Men's
Clinic does fallow phil pea shot in Oklahoma City. Yeah,

(14:23):
there's quite a bit coloplastic penile implants in Oklahoma City.
Free appus shot or the pea shot at the Oklahoma
Men's Clinic. Yeah, bro, you can go locally here Oklahoma
City and you can get a bigger Johnson if you
really want to.

Speaker 8 (14:41):
For three to five years, No, six to eighteen months. Oh,
this says that most guys do a touch up at
twelve months.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
Wow. Once the year. He gotta go in and get
it refilled.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
Yeah, you get it refilled because the body naturally absorbs.
So you could go on a date. Are you start
dating somebody and you could get this done and lie. Yeah,
that's wild to think about.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
Don't skip an appointment, though, because you could go on
that date and everything seems fine, and by the time
the date's over with, you're.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, like what if you are getting this done and
everything's great, like you're in a relationship or whatever, but
then all of a sudden, like what if you can't
afford to get it done anymore?

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Right? So then yeah, something back to my old dog, right.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
And so your relationship was based on like a lie
like the sex life anyway?

Speaker 7 (15:43):
What is this? Like?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
What happened?

Speaker 7 (15:45):
Like that cold in here?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Right?

Speaker 8 (15:48):
And you're only going two centimeters, which is the width
of a nickel. How are you even gonna notice that?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, you might not even notice.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
So that's a five thousand dollars. I'm good enough. I'm
smart enough. God starn it.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
People like me talk.

Speaker 7 (16:01):
Yes, I don't think so with of a nickel in
addition to what you already had.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Of course, right, that's not a lot.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
You can't the human eye can usually not discern two centimeters.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
I don't have a nickel on me, but I'm thinking
that like if you, if you, I think you would
be able to tell.

Speaker 8 (16:23):
I don't know the width of your pinky fingernail.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I don't know. It's more of a time. I think
it nickels more.

Speaker 7 (16:34):
Like like a thumbnail.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Man.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
Yeah, I don't think you would notice. I don't think that.
It's not like when women get breast augmentations where you
can tell.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, I would say, you know, try the try the
motion in your ocean, Try a little bit of a dance,
a different dance before you spend the money on that
type of an injection.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't know go see a therapist and deal with confidence.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
Right, Yeah, Lindsay, here's a question for you at the
end of the day, though women really, are women really
going to be attracted to a monster? Can size? Or
to just be a one night stand trophy situation. That's
a text that came in. That's and I ask you,
because you're the woman, you've had more experience with that
sort of thing. We just look at it and touch
it from time.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
To time, right, I think that it would be more
of a one night stand situation, trophy situation.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
I'm sure you get used to it, but.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I don't know. Does a medically altered penis operate the same?

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Apparently for me personally, it's not a make or break deal.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
The size of a right, exactly.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
I would think being in a relationship, I would think not.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I don't think men really are either.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
When it comes to breast, you men have it a
little bit easier and you can see if a girl
is in the range you desire, right, right, But I
can't imagine a guy who you know, falls in love
with somebody goes yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
But they have really small breast.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
She's great, but she's great, but she's an.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
A exactly see then you're not really looking for more than.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
That's what I'm saying, Like, I don't think that that
may be the initial step, right, but I don't know
if you go, well, you may go I only date
girls with big breasts, yeah right, And there are girls
that will say I only date guys well in doubt,
but you can't tell that immediately. You may end a relationship,
but overall, if they're a good person, treat you kind exactly,

(18:42):
you go unless you're vain af exactly.

Speaker 7 (18:46):
Which I'm sure there are some people out there, but
doesn't make the rule. Right.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
Where's the most popular clinic I'm trying to find find
a want to be step dad? Uh yeah, dah, go
explore all right. I don't think guys would brag about
it either.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
No, there's a level of embarrassment that goes with there,
I'd imagine.

Speaker 8 (19:06):
And there shouldn't be do whatever you want. Who Yeah,
but if you had confidence, you wouldn't be in this
situation exactly. All Right, We've got tickets to Rocklahoma we're
gonna give away. We'll take a break and we'll be
back with news quickies.

Speaker 9 (19:20):
The big Man Morning Show return.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Slack Man accused of beating a gator with a golf club.
This happened in Lake County, Florida, where hunter Combo or
Crumbo excuse me, he was out fishing and apparently when
he was fishing, a gator apparently got his fishing line

(19:44):
and so we started yelling about a gator getting his
twenty dollars lure. And the witness told police that this
hunter Crumbo started beating the alligator with a golf club

(20:06):
to get his lure back, and she said, you don't
have to be so evil, you don't and she was
yelling at him to stop, but he didn't. Apparently another
person came and helped Crumbo beat this gator to death.
They dismembered it, mutilated it. And this is the parent

(20:32):
second time that this guy has been arrested this year.
He had already been on probation after being charged with
stealing artifacts from an archaeological site along the shoreline of
Lake Apopoca in Florida. He's now facing a felony charge
of illegal killing, possessing and capturing of an alligator.

Speaker 8 (20:55):
Yeah, they're protecting animals and it's a twenty dollars lure, man, Yeah,
I grow up exactly.

Speaker 7 (21:01):
Come home, man, if that's the only one, that's my
lucky lure.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
They are lucky. Twenty dollars lures person are known to
be the best, Sure they are, But again it's twenty dollars.
Just go get another.

Speaker 8 (21:12):
One, yeah, because now you're going to jail yep for
a while.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
All over A twenty bit lurem Chuck e Cheese busted
for credit card fraud. This story is amazing comes out
of Florida where this young gal named Michelle Allen. She
had lost her child support visa card. Right, okay, so
she loses her card. She starts kind of trying to

(21:40):
figure out what happened. Last time she had it in
her possession was when she was at Chucky Cheese for
her kid's birthday. Well, of course these charges keep coming
up on her card, right, so she does some investigating
of her own, and she ends up going around to
this place where it used a Don's Grocery and meats,

(22:03):
and she's like, hey, can I see the security footage
from this day, the day that the purchase was made
at this place? And they're like, yeah, sure, whatever, So
they show her and then she recognizes the man. She recognizes,
Jamel Jones. He works at the Chucky Cheese that she
was at. Now, Jermel apparently had gotten her card, used
it at different smoke shops, grocery store, circle K, Waterburger.

(22:26):
He was all over town just living off of this
lady's child sport, right, all right, So she goes and
gets the police involved. The police and her go to
Chucky's and they confront Jermel, who was in full rat costume,
had everything, and he said he denied it. At first.
He's like, i't taken no damn card. If i'd have

(22:47):
found card, I would have turned it into Chucky. Well.
The thing is, though, they searched the man and that's
where they found the card with her name on it
and a receipt where it had recently been used. So
they cuff up Chucky in front of kids, god and
everybody and haul him outside put him in the car.
They did have to take the head off a Chucky

(23:08):
to get him to fit in the car.

Speaker 8 (23:10):
Yeah, I don't I don't understand how they cuffed him
with the head on. I don't understand why they took
him out with the head on. I don't understand how
they knew it was him.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
Because he works as the Chuck as the Chucky doll
at the Chucky Cheese He is the mascot. Yeah, but
he still him. Yeah, but usually more than one person
does it. I'm the expert here.

Speaker 8 (23:29):
Yeah, and so I don't know why, Like, it just
feels like it was not protocol. I'm sure he take
this off while we take your head off while we
talk to you by the kids can't see me.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Great, then let's go into the back either way. Pictures
on our Facebook page. It's hilarious. Yeah, because they got
Chucky cuffed up taking him his ass outside.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, it looks ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
It's hilarious. Yeah, he's uh, he's an all in jail
for a felony credit card theft and credit card fraud.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Creature captured on woman's ring camera. The video is a
video captured by a woman's ring camera in Compton, California's
going viral. It shows what hap appears to be a
small gray creature walking by a woman's home in the
middle of the night. It appears to have elongated head
and walks slightly hunched. Over over a million plus viewers

(24:22):
of the eleven second clip have gone as far as
to call it an alien. Skeptics say it's a child,
a person wearing a mariachi hat, or a person covering
themselves with a blanket, among other theories.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
The homeowner is convinced it is an extra terrestrial origin.
I don't know it. I don't think aliens is the
right thing.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
To me.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's why would it be there? Why would it go there?

Speaker 7 (24:52):
Well, it's curious it could be. And why does it
have to look like you know the alien from American Dad?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Right, it does too, Roger, Yeah, it looks like Roger.
Maybe she was cooking and he smelled her good cooking.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
It was in the middle of the night.

Speaker 7 (25:12):
I think it looks more like alien from Alien you
know what I'm talking about, you know the movie, not
so much Roger, just because of the shape of the head.
Roger had a head like that.

Speaker 8 (25:24):
Yeah, I alien. For it to be an alien is
a wild leap. There's zero evidence it's an alien. Did
you say marriotchi had? Yeah, it does not look like
a Mariachi had.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
Now, maybe one of those speed walkers helmets, you know
what I'm talking about. I'm sure you've seen them. Yeah,
they wear the tight spandex and they got the helmet
that go so far back for aerodynamics, right, maybe that's
what it is.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
Or a raccoon with its head stuck in something and
a blanket over top of him. That feels like more
likely than an alien. There's no evidence it's an alien.
We don't know what aliens look like. Now it's true,
so there's no evidence it's an alien. There's no characteristic,
no piece of evidence, no similarities to what is an
alien because we don't know what aliens look.

Speaker 7 (26:16):
Like unless American dat is based on true story, right,
and that is Roger entirely possible. All right.

Speaker 8 (26:25):
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All right, time for best and Worst of the weekend.
What's the best thing that happened this weekend? And the
worst thing that.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Happened this weekend? Bmms?

Speaker 8 (27:24):
And what that is to eight two, nine, four five,
lindsay what's the best and what's the worst?

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I would say it was a wonderful weekend. We celebrated
birthdays galore. First it was a girlfriend on Saturday, and
then my son Today is Marcus's fifteenth birthday, and uh,
yesterday we celebrated on the lake and we had a
great time. We got to bring out a couple of
buddies of his and we did some tubin, We did

(27:50):
a lot of fishing. We set some jug lines. We
set fourteen jug lines actually, and I think out of
those fourteen, we only had one dug line that was
completely empty. So we had we had I think, oh
like good thirteen really good keeper catfish, and Marcus, lucky

(28:13):
enough got he caught the biggest catfish on.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
The jug line.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah that count Yeah, it counts. Yes, we forget it. Yeah,
it was pretty awesome. Yeah, it was just a beautiful,
beautiful day. It was. It was just great. The worst
part about it was after we the water is still
pretty high. It's still like eight feet high at Fort Gibson.

(28:39):
So we still have to we still have to get
shipped to our boat. We still have to get like
a taxi from the marina to our boat where we
keep it docked at.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
So the dock, there's a giant body of water between
land and the dock.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, uh huh yeah so h So a friend of
ours actually brought their boat out yesterday too, which was great,
and they hung out. So while we put our boat
up last night and got it all covered and everything,
and hopped on his boat and then we pulled his
boat out of the water. One of Marcus's buddies said

(29:17):
that he had left his retainer on our boat. I'm like, oh, well,
you're gonna have to go a week without it because
now all of the boats are out of the water.
It's you know, dark, and we had taken two cars
because we have to at this point. There's so many
of us now, and I drive home and get the

(29:39):
kids home. Kevin had stayed back at the camper and
he was cleaning fish and he calls and he says,
I have to stay here too. He's on his buddy's
phone when he called me, and he goes, I left
my phone on the boat too, So I'm going to
have to stay the night here in the camper and
wake up in the morning and use the marina shuttle
to go back to our boat and get my phone

(30:00):
off of it.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
So you just swim out there and get it.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Couldn't you just come home and then go back to
the boat in the morning.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Oh no, that's forty minutes. I mean, out of the way.
It's so much easier.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
Swimming through crocodile infested waters. No, we've they've been swimming
in those worlds.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
But how do you swim back with your phone?

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Right?

Speaker 7 (30:20):
Most phones are waterproof nowadays, right, what's he got an iPhone? Yeah,
there's waterproof.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, but there's it's not lit where the where the
boat is?

Speaker 9 (30:29):
That?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah? Unfortunately, So it was kind of like dope moment.

Speaker 8 (30:35):
But best and worst of the weekend. What's the best
thing that happened this weekend? And the worst thing that
happened this weekend? Bmms and what that is to eight two, nine,
four five, gimbi? What's the best and what's the worst?

Speaker 7 (30:45):
I guess the best probably would have been Friday. I
had the remote out at Docs, country Mark and Bigsby
getting qualified for flight and Fairway right, and I wasn't
make sure what to expect. I've never heard of this
doc thought it was a gas station, come and find
out it's a grocery store. But in all reality, it
was awesome. There were so many people that swing By

(31:09):
got qualified. The people of Bikesby are so friggin nice,
you know, every last one of them have. I did
have one guy. He was a bit of an older fella,
and uh, trying to get him qualified and you know,
we're doing this whole QR code scan it thing or
a jigger or whatever, and he couldn't figure out his
phone and he got all pissed off and said, ah,

(31:29):
the hell with this, go back to using paper, and
then walked away. Mack in my day. Yeah, so that
was really the best part, just that remote. I was
just surprised on how well it went and just the
people are being so awesome out there. The worst part
of the weekend. And I told Corn about this before

(31:51):
the show started. I learned a valuable lesson on expiration
dates over the weekend. So, uh was it yesterday? Yesterday?
I almost hungry in the morning. I got a butt
ass early too. It was like it was like three
o'clock in the morning when I got up, right, I
play my video games for a little while, and come

(32:13):
around seven, eight o'clock, I'm like, I'm hungry. I didn't
really feel like making any eggs or anything like that.
So I go into my cupboard. What do I have?
And I'm like, oh, brownie mix that's been there for
two years. It was a s'morest brownie mix, right, gram
cracker on the bottom, chocolate brownie in the middle, marshmallow's

(32:35):
on top. Like this has been in there for a while.
But whatever, I'm hungry, right, it's just a suggestion. It's it.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
That's it, right, that's it hasn't been opened, no dry ingredients.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
Yes, everything should be fine, and uh, crack open that
old box and I'm like, well, it kind of smells
like old Plato. But whatever is what it is. I
follow all the directions on the box. I make it up.
Got the gram cracker crust down there, which that's where
the problem lies. The crusty Plato smell was coming from

(33:10):
the Graham cracker crust in but I made it up,
and I was like, all right, well, smelling like old
Plato or not.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
I made it.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
Let's give her a shot and see what happens. And
it tasted like donkey ass. I'm not gonna lie. It
was bad. The chocolate part was good. The marshmallows were
nice and stale. You know, they were real marshmallows. I
would assume they They looked like real marshmallows.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
It was like a cream.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah, they looked like a real marshmallow, right, But they
were hard and like like lucky Charms marshmallows. Maybe they
were soft and fluffy two years ago. I don't know.
But I ate it and I was like, this is terrible,
but I'm in it, so let's go. And I had

(34:00):
that for breakfast and then you know, I'm like, well,
I can't let it go to waste, so after dinner, whatever,
I pull me off another chunk and then poured some
milk on top of it kind of soften things up.
Still tasted like donkey as though, did not help any
at all whatsoever. So I learned a lot valuable lesson

(34:21):
if it's they say non perishable items are totally perishable.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
Yeah, two years definitely, So before you probably didn't have
a limit on the expiration. Now what's your limit?

Speaker 7 (34:36):
Uh, definitely under two years, so you.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Would still have gone a year in six months.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
Maybe maybe, I don't know. My thought there is like,
if if you open it up and there is a
smell that is not attractive, you should probably and that
could go for a lot of things in life, you
should probably not eat it if if it's because that
that crusty old plato smell is like, oh goodness, Okay,

(35:04):
So if I'd opened up box didn't smell like crusty
old plato or didn't have an old foul odor to it,
I probably would, you know, everything would have been all right.
But yeah, expiration dates they're there for a reason.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Right.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Right.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
My favorite thing I know about any boxed brownie cake
mixed scenario is they had it figured out where you
just had to add water, but they felt like people
needed to act like they were baking, so they let
you put egg in it. Yeah it's not necessary, right, No,
but it felt nice whipping all that up. You got

(35:41):
the right you think you're baking. I'll lick the spoon
afterwards cleaning the bowl out.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
Yeah good stuff. Mm hmm. Yeah, I'm sitting here thinking
to myself. Took me, flashed me back to the day's
Grandma been making you know cakes or whatnot?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
She y'all want to lick the spoon and lick the
from scratch.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
Yeah nobody. I'm just sitting there licking the batter off
of and then this is it all stingy? And yeah?

Speaker 8 (36:07):
You and I are at different places in our life.
Why do you say that I don't eat things.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
That taste gross. I don't power through it.

Speaker 8 (36:16):
I just throw it away because what am I losing
four dollars from two years ago?

Speaker 7 (36:21):
Right?

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Maybe right right?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
He lost that four dollars the day he bought it.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
But what if you know it would have turned out
just fine? You know, you don't know until you try it.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, no, you tried it and kept eating it. Is
my point.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
I just go throw it away, don't eat it best
and worst the weekend? What's the best thing that happened
this weekend and the worst thing that happened this weekend.
I didn't have a worst. I mean, I had a
pretty good weekend. I've got this book I'm trying to read.
It's five hundred pages and I'm trying to finish it
before Wednesday, and I'm at four hundred and ten.

Speaker 7 (36:56):
Okay, so i think I'll get there. So that's it's
not really a worse, but I got to pick something.

Speaker 8 (37:02):
Best part of the weekend is we went to a
friend's house and they grilled steaks, and they have a
pool and the kids swim and got to do a
nighttime swim and all that, and it was awesome. It
was very cool underneath, like the patio, and they had
a breeze going. The sun shaded perfectly on that side
of the house, so it was nice to be outside,

(37:22):
even though it was one hundred and taint. Best and
worst of the weekend. What's the best part of the weekend.
What's the worst part of the weekend? This says best
of the weekend went to ok See to Ramsey's kitchen
for dinner on Saturday. I didn't know they put one
in there, and he's just capitalizing on his brand dramatically.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
And I looked at the menu.

Speaker 8 (37:42):
He has the Wellington and other things that he's known
for that might be worth a trip to go down
and eat there. I can't imagine it's going to stay
open long. Remember when they opened Wolfgang Pucks here and
it was awesome. I thought it was so good. Every
time I went in there it was packed and it
didn't stay open very long. So I'm going to try it.
Worst I had to put up a ceiling fan. Ceiling

(38:04):
fans aren't that bad if you got to have the
light on a separate switch. Yeah, and the fan that
gets a little nuanced, Yeah, that's not that that hard.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I don't think.

Speaker 8 (38:12):
Best of the weekend was getting to install two new
mini split ac units. Worst is the tie between crazy
bitch wanted to start things with my pregnant wife outside
the town pump. I had to push her out of
the way before things got nasty. Other worst was being
sideswiped with my four kids in the car on a
highway going sixty five miles per hour and the driver

(38:33):
took off. Oh my gosh, that's too Maybe the problems
you man, Yeah, your pregnant wife at the bar and
someone was trying to start stuff with her, so you
pushed the woman down.

Speaker 7 (38:47):
Okay. The one weekend that I chose not to go
to the town pump and that's when I think that's something. Best.

Speaker 8 (38:55):
I got to got out to ride the bike for
the first time in months. I lost my first in
a miscarriage, so sorry. Best, got to go down and
spend time with my brother for his birthday and got
to meet my nephew for the first time.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Worst, spend a lot more money than I intended to.

Speaker 8 (39:17):
Best, I spent my birthday weekend on the Illinois with
friends and girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Worst, I'm burnt, like toast.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
Best.

Speaker 8 (39:24):
Busy week okay, okay, see show last night? Okay, see
show one last night was dope. Worked today than another
Oklahoma City show. Then Wednesday, then Thursday. Worst, my mom
forgot our plans of her visiting for the weekend before
she moves to Alaska in ten days.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
She was busy bailing Hay at the farm. Yo, if
I'm moving in ten days, I.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Ain't bailing Hay.

Speaker 7 (39:45):
No, No, we're packing.

Speaker 8 (39:49):
Had a buddy goes, hey, you want to come help
bail ahead, and I was like, why, Right, he's like, well,
I need some help.

Speaker 7 (39:55):
I'm like.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
Wrong number who, I got a phone, I got a thing.
I'm trying to read a book. My days of bail
and hay are over. My grandfather had a farm and
we would bail hay. And at ten years old, trying
to bail hay is not awesome.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
At any age.

Speaker 8 (40:14):
Right, yeah, no, that's true too. But I couldn't say
no then, right, And when I was done, he would
give me a plastic horse.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (40:23):
Nice, at least you got some kind of compensation for it.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
We would keep them on top of a shelf in our.

Speaker 8 (40:33):
As a reminder of how many because I guess it
was a gift from my grandparents. I saw like twice
a year maybe, and as a reward for hard work,
here's a plastic course. Until I was much older, I
didn't realize he was buying these at auction and had
just a box of them was given him. There was
no merit to them, there was no like he made them.
They were not pictures of his horse. It's just a
box of crap he got at the auction. Yeah, at

(40:55):
the Harrisonville auction. He was like because I went with
time and they had a bunch of horses. I'm like,
put it together, went, son.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
Of a bitch?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Where are they now?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
They're dead? Ther Oh no, my grandparents? Uh the horse.

Speaker 7 (41:09):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I don't keep that stuff. I'm yeah, I don't keep
that stuff.

Speaker 7 (41:12):
I have no idea where it is.

Speaker 8 (41:14):
Best got my first dub on call of duty. Worst
sweat of my balls off mowing and weed eating the yard.
Really not that bad of a weekend. Best I took
my vintage Yamahopper for a good ride. Worst my storage
unit leaked and I had to toss an expensive couch.
Best part rented a Triton on Grand Lake. Spent time

(41:35):
with my kids and extended family out at our family
reunion in Shango, La Endo the day with a crab
leg seafood boil complete with shrimp, corn, potatoes, sausage. Worst
part more than kind of sunburnt and ended up hurting
my shoulder tube. We're best and worst of the weekend.
Best took my family to their first drillers game at
One Oak. They had a blast. Worst my four year

(41:57):
old was terrified of all the mascots, so we couldn't
get a picture of them. Yeah, that's a ride of passage.
Best of the weekend, had an early tea time at
the course and had the course to myself for the
first three hours. Worst House Central AC has died and
is still dead. House is nice and toasty.

Speaker 7 (42:16):
Oof. That sucks. You know.

Speaker 8 (42:18):
In May, when there's a they send you the thing like, hey,
you should think about doing an AC checkup, You're like, bitch,
you ain't getting my money right.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
And then in July when you're going a.

Speaker 8 (42:26):
Week to ten days without AC because they're real busy,
it feels like you made a mistake.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, all right, we got to take a break. We'll
be back til says.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
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Speaker 8 (43:22):
All right, it's time for our listeners. Are our listeners
are awesome as we chat with the listener and they
share their story with us. On the line with us
right now is Chris.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
Hey, Chris, how are you good? Man? Chris? It says
here you have four kids? Man, what's the youngest? What's
the oldest?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Nine to eleven?

Speaker 7 (43:42):
Okay, so eleven year old? Are you starting to get
a little attitude?

Speaker 9 (43:46):
I have identical twins starting to learn sarcasm.

Speaker 7 (43:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (43:55):
Sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes that's a bad thing.
Are they pretty funny?

Speaker 10 (44:00):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (44:00):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy because they're ninety nine identical,
but they have polar opposite attitudes like personalities.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Right.

Speaker 8 (44:09):
Did you have trouble discerning that, like telling the difference
between them in the beginning when they were you know,
still young babies.

Speaker 9 (44:18):
Oh man, that was that was one of my biggest
fears in life when I found out I was having
identical twins I had. I've made secret plans so I'd
make a little sharping mark on one of their foot,
just just so I wouldn't be able to mix them up.
As soon as they were born, I could tell instantly
the difference between them. The sound of their cries were different.
To me, I have no problems.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
That's awesome, man, all right. So it says here that
you seem to have wild situations with animals. It says
to ask you about the time you were stalked by
the by a mountain lion as a kid.

Speaker 9 (44:54):
Okay, yeah, So I lived in northern California at the time.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
I was.

Speaker 9 (44:59):
Thirteen, maybe one of ours. It was an old sack,
and we had bike jumps and hiking trails and dirt
bike jumps and everything going up into the mountains. Well
on my street there was probably eight boys all around
my age, and we just mopped around everywhere together. For

(45:23):
some reason, one evening, I was up in the mountain
by myself on my bike, and as I was coming
down with dust to get home before the street light
shut out, I'm rolling down the side or just like
a little switchback trail and everything goes silent. I stopped.
I freeze, like this is spring. There's bugs everywhere, birds chirping,

(45:48):
just dead silence. The hair in the back of my
neck stands up. And I'm sitting there looking around like
wide eyed, and I'm like, what's going on? And a
mountain lion walks onto the trail about one hundred yards
back from me and just stares at me. I decided
to forego using the trail and I went straight down
the side of the mountain on my bike as fast

(46:09):
as I can. It chased me all the way down
side of the mountain, and at the bottom where the
Cold de Sac is, we had bike jumps. I came
flying over the bike jump and landed on the road
and kept going. It chased me all the way to
the top of that bike jump that at the end
of the road before.

Speaker 7 (46:27):
It stopped.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
And did it and you got away from it.

Speaker 9 (46:33):
I got away from it. It wound up. It wound
up being a mom with cubs and to wound up
taking out a whole bunch of cat and dogs in
the neighborhood. And after the parents of the neighborhood found out,
they went and hunted it down. But yeah, it was
an I opening experience for a thirteen year old.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Did you have nightmares after that?

Speaker 9 (46:59):
I don't. I don't have I don't have dreams, so
I'd never have any nightmares.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
About side quest.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
You don't have dreams.

Speaker 9 (47:08):
I can remember three dreams in my entire life that
I've had, so weird, and they were all when I
was really young.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
And what were those dreams like? Do you remember what
they what they were involved with?

Speaker 9 (47:21):
Yeah, So the first one, I I lived in a
place with a big backyard and not a swing set
and everything, and I remember in the dream, I'd be
swinging on a swing set and I didn't want to
come in. My mom was yelling at me to come in,
and I jumped off the swing set and started to
fly around. So I had a dream, and it was

(47:45):
a recurrent dream to where I could just sit there
and it would be the same dream, but I'd fly
around the backyard and over the house and do whatever
I wanted, just so I didn't have to go inside.

Speaker 8 (47:55):
Is it possible that in thirty seven years of life,
maybe you've taken a you little too many dunks to
the head and you just don't recall your dreams.

Speaker 9 (48:05):
It's could be that or the fact that I only
sleep about four to five hours a night.

Speaker 7 (48:09):
But okay, it's possible. Yeah, how come you only sleep
four to five hours a night.

Speaker 9 (48:16):
I've always been a really big night now, but I
haven't somnia. So even as a kid, I was taking
care of my grandpa who had cancer, So I'd be
the one changing the oxygen bottles and getting them coffee,
opening into the bath and that kind of thing. I
just never grew out of it. Like I if my

(48:38):
if I sleep more than five hours, like my body
can't sleep more than five hours. It gets me up
and forces me up. So I normally go to bed
around one o'clock in the morning and wake up at
five to be ready for work.

Speaker 7 (48:51):
How old were you when you were forced to take
care of your dying grandfather?

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Uh? Well, I.

Speaker 9 (48:58):
Got a bad child, so I chose to lot of
my grandparents when I was eleven. Okay, so I started
taking I started when he started getting back up put
on oxygen I was twelve. I took care of him
from twelve to when he passed away when.

Speaker 7 (49:12):
I was eighteen.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
And where was your grandma during that time?

Speaker 9 (49:18):
She worked, so she was there, like she'd take care
of him during the day and I'd take care of
him during the night.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
How much caring did you like? How much attention did
he need? Could he change his own clothes things like that?

Speaker 7 (49:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (49:31):
Yeah, Yeah, he had lung cancer, so he just couldn't like,
he couldn't sleep in a bed. He had to sleep
reclined in his recliner in the front room. So I
slept on the couch and he just needed like he'd
have panic attacks and things like that. He'd have albuterol
treatments that'd he have to take, and he was fine
the majority of the time, but whenever he needed help,

(49:54):
I'd be up and helping him.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
And when he he passed away, were you relieved that
he was no longer dealing with that? Were you grateful
that he passed over to not be in pain? What
were you feeling or were you just incredibly sad?

Speaker 9 (50:14):
I was incredibly sad.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
He was my dad.

Speaker 9 (50:17):
That's pretty like I got rased of a single mom,
so we bounced around. I went to thirteen different schools
in ten years, so then being there with them with
stability and he who instilled all my wife lessons in
the meets. So yeah, it was incredibly devastating for me,

(50:39):
especially like he passed away a month after my eighteenth birthday.

Speaker 8 (50:46):
Right the time you really needed him as you were,
you know, the sun was rising on your adulthood where
you could have used that guidance, and he was gone.

Speaker 9 (50:55):
Yeah, So I left with my grandma, who, like my grandpa's,
one of the people who they were very traditional. He
paid all the bills like he was the bread winner.
He took care of everything outside of the house. My
grandma took care of her if she worked as a nurse,
but she had never filled up her tanker her car

(51:16):
with gas before he passed away. She never paid a
bill before he passed away. So all of that gout
dumped on me at eighteen three or four weeks after
I started my first job, and did.

Speaker 8 (51:34):
That like, because that's a lot for somebody to take on,
Not to mention the other life trauma things you had,
but did you find an outlet in a way that
wasn't productive.

Speaker 9 (51:48):
I worked, and I tried to go to college, and
I wound up working too much to saying oh it
til I dropped out. So I just wound up focusing
on that. I wound up making really good money at
nineteen years old as an electrician, and I don't know.

(52:11):
I never had my party stage, never did anything like that.
I just came in an adult super early.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Never got wrapped up in drugs or anything like that.

Speaker 9 (52:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, because I think a lot.

Speaker 8 (52:24):
Of people their story, you know, are a few bad
decisions away from going down that path.

Speaker 9 (52:31):
Oh, like I, I didn't have my first drink of
alcohol until I got married at twenty one.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
How did you meet her?

Speaker 9 (52:42):
Uh, that's a crazy story in itself. So I have
a younger half sister that's five years younger than me,
and I was visiting my mom and her at their
house and he had friends over, and I wound up
dating one of her friends. And then some things happened

(53:05):
and I wound up meeting her sister, So I wound
up dating her sister instead.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
Thanks better.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
How long were you married to her?

Speaker 9 (53:19):
That didn't last very long. I was in California in
two thousand and eight. I'd lost my job when all
the housing stuff and an economy collapsed out there, kind
of moved out here to Oklahoma. She wound up cheating
on me about a year after we moved here, so
she wound up moving back to California where all my
family's at, and I stayed out here. We're all her

(53:40):
families at.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Wild.

Speaker 7 (53:45):
How did you how So, how's that been Trying to
date again?

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (53:52):
Not great. I wound up never in a really long
term relationship until I met my last ex wife, and
that's a whole different kind of experience. I owned a
house in Bristo. I was leastening to my friends while
I lived in Tulsa, and they wound up ghosting me

(54:15):
on rent and didn't return calls. So I wound up
going driving out there to see what was going on.
My front door was standing open, my house was trashed,
and they were gone. So I wound up looking for
somebody to run my house. And I wound up meeting
my now ex wife and we hit it off, clicked,

(54:36):
and I wanted to moving back to Bristol with her,
and immediately she was bringing over twins.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
So we'll remember not to stand too close to you
if we ever shake hands.

Speaker 9 (54:52):
Oh yeah, so my kids. When my youngest was born,
I could say that I had four kids that were
doing under.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
That's wild, dude. Yeah, And why did that relationship then?

Speaker 10 (55:06):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (55:07):
She went crazy? Oh no, it's like it was a
legit like hormone thing. She she had a cancer scare
with a whole bunch of tumors and stuff in her
reproductive tract. She had a surgery, and literally the next

(55:29):
day she was a different person. Like they tried to
put her like before, leading up to everything, they'd try
to put her on a bunch of different hormone replacement
therapies and things like that to try to stabilize her hormones.
Nothing works, so they wound up doing a surgery, wound
up removing ninety nine percent of it, but it wound
up changing her hormones where she literally was a different person.

(55:52):
Like after it happened, my youngest daughter had a school
thing that get in a year where he has to
drop pitcher and like introduce your parents to the class
or whatever. And my daughter had drawn a picture of
my ex and said, this is my mom. Her favorite
drink is doctor pepper and everything like that. And when

(56:15):
she took it home and showed her, my ex freaked
out on her because she's like, I don't like doctor pepper.
I've never liked doctor pepper. I've always drank coke the
entire time I've known her. She drank doctor pepper. My
daughter was in tears over it, like she wound up
being a completely different person. Wow and thinks and things

(56:35):
just sell a park. Like within within a month of
that surgery, I was at work and then I got
a phone call from her, like right around eleven thirty
and said saying, hey, I just wanted to hear her
voice one more time to seven change anythink it doesn't click.

(56:56):
She locked my number when nan'ce my call. By time
I got home or my kids were gone. All my
stuff was gone, bank accounts, we leaned out, more ingetainment
was canceled. Everything a value in my house is gone.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
What kind of panic attack did you have in that moment?

Speaker 9 (57:14):
Oh? Man, I freaked out. Please, I didn't know what
was going on there. I called the police that came
out and they're like, well, where do you think she is?
I'm like, she has two friends as this address and
this address. They took off, said we'll be in contact
to see what's going on. They came back and issued

(57:36):
me restraining more hear against her and the kids, saying
her she claimed like file the seven page report claiming
that I beat abuse, starved locksman closets that I was
this horrible person and it was a three month, three
and a half months battle in court for me to
even get to talk to my kids again.

Speaker 7 (57:59):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
That I can't imagine the weight that that carried.

Speaker 9 (58:05):
Oh, it took me in a very dark place at
the time. I get it. She took off three days
before my son's birthday, so like all the presents and
everything I bought him all disappeared with him. I didn't
get young happy birthday. I didn't get to see her

(58:26):
talk to him for three and a half months. And
when I finally was able to get Customy back when
I picked them up from school, I've not seen him
for that long. Three of them didn't even hug me.
And the first thing my son asked me was did
you really destroy our room and run over our bikes
and get rid of everything?

Speaker 7 (58:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
She was just polluting her mind with lies. Yeah, so
what happened to her?

Speaker 9 (58:55):
She lives in clairemore, she has a fiance and a
new baby with somebody else, and so.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
You don't hear from her anymore. Is she involved in
the kids' lives?

Speaker 9 (59:06):
Yeah, well, unfortunately we're we to parent. I am gusty
if my kid's fifty fifty Sunday to Sunday every other week. Wow,
but it's not. It's been three a little over three years,
and then there's still it's hard to deal with.

Speaker 8 (59:24):
So go back to the day you show up at
your place because your friends abandoned it and weren't playing
rent And do you rent it out to her again?
What do you mean because you said you met her
when your friends abandoned your house in Bristow.

Speaker 9 (59:43):
Oh okay, if I could go back, yeah, yeah, I
would knock.

Speaker 7 (59:49):
M hm. I assumed, but I just didn't want to
put you know, I just didn't want to make that assumption. Well, dude,
that's a lot. All those things are a lot. So
what do you do for fun? What is the way
you unwind?

Speaker 9 (01:00:06):
I like kayaking, hiking, fishing, pretty much outdoor stuff I write.
I started after all that stuff happened. I started to write,
writing poetry after therapy to process emotions and do that
kind of thing. So I try to keep myself as

(01:00:28):
busy as possible, especially when the weeks that I don't
have my kids.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Do you share any of your poetry with anyone?

Speaker 9 (01:00:38):
Sometimes it's all really really like personal, so you have
to usually have to really know me to hear anything.
But I do share them occagiency.

Speaker 8 (01:00:55):
Yeah, I don't think whatever, Man, there's nothing wrong with that.
You've got to get those thoughts out of your head
and onto paper. And uh, you don't have share with
anybody you don't want to. Don't ever feel like you've
got to share that stuff that is that is. It
can be dark thoughts on paper. It doesn't make it real,
but letting it fester in your head is not healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:01:14):
And like I'm a I'm a very visual person, so
I have trouble processing emotions without seeing him, the process
of writing them down, finding the exact words to fit
how I'm feeling seeing them on paper, going over and
over and over and over again, trying to match him
up into some similar to flow. Uh, it wound up

(01:01:36):
being my outlet.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
We didn't get to it.

Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
But I want to briefly say this because it's crazy.
This was the real reason we were going to talk
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
We didn't mean to go off on that. On that
side quest about your marriages and stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:01:48):
It says in a three week time span at work,
you were confronted by a black bear, stalked by a
mountain lion and had to beat off a wild boar
with a stick, which feels like a movie lens Will
promoted nine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
But what uh, what kind of line of work were
you doing where that happen?

Speaker 9 (01:02:04):
So I was working for a company that contracted the OENNG,
so we did special projects for him, Like I was
one of the guys who jump into backyards to change
out the front of the gas meters to the electronic
readers so the the meter reader wouldn't have to jump
in the backyards anymore. Been attacked from multiple dogs, held
a gunpoint a few times. But this project was they

(01:02:27):
were doing an audit, their fifty year audit for all
their main easements. So Monday through Friday we were gone,
paired up and teams two people do a truck. You'd
get dropped off at one point, so the next person
would drive around a couple miles away, drop the truck
off there. You'd talk to the truck, then drive it around,

(01:02:48):
eataly frog all day And all you're doing all day
long is swallowing the little redline on aps, making GEO
tags for any exposed line. They'd had a deal with
the farmers. They get free gaps for ever amount of
years that they could put across their properties. That was

(01:03:11):
coming to do so after fifty years. I had no
idea where the gas meters or anything more. So we'd
have to geo tag him and to read them and
make notes in our little aps. But you just went
over that red line when it didn't matter, rose across fields,
across river mountains, whatever, you followed it. That's what you
did all day long.

Speaker 8 (01:03:33):
Wild dude, you've had a wild life and you're only
thirty seven years old. Man, it has been interesting to
talk to you. Thank you so much for sharing all
that with you. Good luck with your kids, man, and
good luck with everything else. And maybe try tender on
the dating app thing. Maybe don't rely on some of
those other ones.

Speaker 9 (01:03:52):
Yeah, I think I'll be okay by myself for a while.

Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
Right on, man, all right, buddy, have a good day.
Thanks for chatting with us, Chris, all right, thank you,
all right, man, see you later. Our listeners are awesome.
We'll take a break and we'll.

Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
Be back if you're listening to the Big Mad Mourning.

Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
This doesn't happen yet, but there are rumors that Phil
Collins is in hospice care. Really he was apparently that
for those who know hospice, unless you are Jimmy Carter,
it means they're making you comfortable because they feel like
there's nothing left they can do.

Speaker 7 (01:04:30):
This is the end.

Speaker 8 (01:04:31):
Yeah, he had knee surgery at seventy four years old,
which is wild.

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:04:38):
Really, but they're saying it's a false claim that he
has hospice care status. He's been transported, he's been transparent
about his health, particularly the damage to a two thousand
and seven spinal injury that impact his ability to drum,
and his wife being a complete bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Or his ex life.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
I should say yeah, because she took all of his
money and would't let him have access to his money,
which I don't know how that happens. But for real,
you might think watch the radar for your Phil Collins update.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Does anyone have no?

Speaker 9 (01:05:16):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:05:16):
I did last year.

Speaker 10 (01:05:18):
I did.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
Yeah, But.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
I don't know how you handle that information like, oh,
he's on hospice.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
No, he's not like you have.

Speaker 8 (01:05:30):
Someone has to be like, hey, he's not right. Why
can't you just ignore it? What's a matter if people
think that?

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
For the diehard Phil Collins fans, they want to make
sure that they were informed, and this is where he's
at just in case.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Yeah, I don't think that's necessary.

Speaker 8 (01:05:48):
You're not Delta, right, you don't have to announce departures.
You're not announcing Hey, I haven't had a bowel movement
in four days. But we do want to know if
this guy dies. Maybe Vegas has got some bets open
on this. I would argue dying is an important attribute

(01:06:09):
to know. Yeah, I get that. To inform people that
he's no longer around, that makes sense. But to be like,
I guess it does make sense Stolfigo, he's not dead
or he's not, But to be like, he's not on hospice, right,

(01:06:29):
and especially if you're not being transparent with the information,
if you're saying it to try and like subdue some information,
go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
So there were rumors out there that he was on
the host spice, but these people are coming out and
saying that he's not a right, Yeah, okay, well then
yeah that makes sense. I guess they want to clear
it up and be like, not, why, fine, what's the matter,
He's fine? Because they don't want to send every Phil
Collins fan into it is he.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I think I don't know why this has to be
a land of confusion, right.

Speaker 7 (01:07:06):
If you could have just seen it coming in the
air tonight. Don't worry Phil, every breath you take.

Speaker 8 (01:07:17):
Wrong, Listen, against all odds, you need to make sure right,
was he not doing well that he was like, so.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Studio, he's on hospice.

Speaker 7 (01:07:34):
He's on a groovy kind of love, and he just says,
take me home.

Speaker 8 (01:07:41):
Yeah, he's definitely not feeling like another day in paradise. Oh,
no way, probably wishing he had two hearts, right, he's
definitely not. Listen for anybody wondering. You saw the rumor
that he's on hospice, h and you think he doesn't
care anymore. Listen, you can't hurry love, no, because well

(01:08:03):
you're in too deep. And then right, this is all
just a misunderstanding. Eventually, the true callers are going to
be shown. He knows that when the end is near,
it's an invisible touch that the grim Reaper reaches down
and grabs you. I doubt that, man, I bet you
he looks at that grim Reaper and he's like, I
don't care anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Right, He's not throwing it all away.

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
No, No, of course not.

Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
And maybe they feel like they've got to come out
and say something because there's you know, they think follow you,
follow me like they're not sure.

Speaker 7 (01:08:38):
It's just a groovy kind of love that they got.
Like I said, this is all just a misunderstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
And I'm out of your coincs.

Speaker 8 (01:08:48):
Oh god, there's so many now, dude, there's so many.
How about the lamb lies down on Broadway. I wasn't
sure how to work in.

Speaker 7 (01:09:00):
He's just an easy lover because you can include genesis
in that you can't sure for sure? Turn it on again.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Yeah, all right, we gotta take a break. We'll be back.

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Speaker 8 (01:10:06):
Join us in the studio now is Jeff Hensley of
Hensley and Associates. Good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 7 (01:10:09):
How are you?

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
I'm doing well? How are you guys doing good?

Speaker 8 (01:10:11):
We had the listener on a little bit ago and
he was sharing how a woman he was seeing took
kids money and then made an accusation of abuse and
things like that, and he had to fight that. When
that happens to you, you literally are at the mercy
of the courts at that point, right, you have to
let the system play out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
You don't get to say no. They'll grant a protective order.

Speaker 11 (01:10:34):
Yes, right, and you know, unfortunately, fortunately this is attack
that used a lot. I mean sadly, there are people
out there who have learned to play the protective order system. Unfortunately,
what happens a lot of the times is is that
you've got these people to come in and do these things,
and the judges don't know. I mean, I can't fault

(01:10:58):
the judges on the initial detective orders simply because they
granted out of an abundance of caution.

Speaker 6 (01:11:04):
Right, that's the idea that, well, what if this is real?

Speaker 11 (01:11:07):
Okay, because you know, even if it's not real, eight
times out of ten, you still have that two tents
that it could be real. And I'm not saying protective
orders aren't real. Don't misunderstand me, everybody. I'm just merely
saying in a scenario that they can be weaponized a
lot of times to get people kicked out of houses
because when a protective orders in place, that person has

(01:11:28):
to vacate the premises to stop visitation. And there's all
sorts of reasons why people do these things. And unfortunately,
if you're the ones suffering that you know, claim against you,
then you are basically at the court's mercy and so
you have a hearing on the issue where you can
prove that it wasn't true and all these other things.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
So, I mean, it's it's not a perfect system.

Speaker 11 (01:11:49):
And I've said this, and I think we've said this
for the whole time we've been doing this. Our system
is not perfect, all right. In fact, I think a
lot of us, including judges, would agree that to a
certain degree, our system is broken in a lot of
different ways, and this is one of the broken issues.
And as I've always said, if you've got a problem
with the laws in Oklahoma, don't complain to your attorney.
Complain to your legislator, who have the power to change

(01:12:12):
these things.

Speaker 8 (01:12:12):
Jeff Finsley's joining us from Hensley and Associates. If you've
got a question, get it over to us. Eight through three,
four six oho KMOD. You can email show at kmod
dot com or text bmms and whatever that question is
to eight two, nine, four or five. So, if you
find yourself in this situation, what steps should you start
doing besides calling Hinsley and Associates? What's the next thing

(01:12:33):
you should do? Because you have to wait, and that's
pretty there's a lot of anxiety in that.

Speaker 7 (01:12:37):
There is.

Speaker 11 (01:12:38):
And unfortunately, if it's like so, certain counties have certain
policies when it comes to protective orders in divorce actions
or praternity actions. So example, in Tulsa County, if a
protective order is brought against you, that's done by the
judge on the first floor and then the second when
you come back for your quote show all cause hearing.
The local rule is is that it is it is

(01:12:58):
consolidated into to your case. It is in front of
your third floor judge or the judge handling your divorce
your praternity action. So instead of being heard on that
date that you're supposed to be in court on the
first floor, it gets kicked to a judge later on
a couple weeks down the road, even front to that
judge that's hailing your case on the third floor, and
the third floor first setting is never a hearing setting.

(01:13:19):
It's always a status setting. So then it gets kicked
down even further, and sometimes it just keeps. It gets
kept active during the time of the case. Sometimes you
can ask for actual hearing. I mean, but my point
is is instead of getting it taken care of, it gets.

Speaker 6 (01:13:34):
Delayed and delayed and delayed.

Speaker 11 (01:13:37):
Other counties are much quicker on getting those things heard.
A lot of them will consolidate into the actual divorce,
the paternity case, or whatever it may be, but they
will set of hearing much quicker. Every county is different
how the judges want to handle it. Part of it
is is scheduling and how much room they have for
hearings and things like that. But I mean, if you're
in those that position, you give us a call so
we can get it resolved as soon as possible. I mean,

(01:13:58):
there shouldn't be a reason that being blocked if it's
not real, I mean, if it's something that has been
made up or misconstrued so the other side can try
and get their way, we can help.

Speaker 6 (01:14:06):
You with those issues.

Speaker 8 (01:14:08):
Definitely, don't represent yourself in that scenaria because you will
get bullied pretty fast.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:14:12):
Absolutely, absolutely, So you know it's important that you call
us so we can help you out with that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Jeff is here from Hensley Associates.

Speaker 8 (01:14:19):
If you've got a question about custody or guardianships or
anything like that, Jeff can answer them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Get them to us right now. Eight three three four six. Oh, KMOD.

Speaker 8 (01:14:28):
You can text BMMS and whatever that question is to
eight two nine four five or email show at kmod
dot com.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
So there's one thing I wanted to cover.

Speaker 11 (01:14:34):
It's something that's popped up in the last couple of
weeks and I wanted to make clear to all the
listeners out there. Okay, so there are when we talk
about custody and visitation and aging out and things like that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
Let let's talk about though, Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:14:46):
So if you have a child who turns eighteen during
their senior year, okay, they age out as to the
issue of visitation and custody, Okay, because they're eighteen, they're
an adult, all right, they can do whatever they want.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
There is no more control that the court can.

Speaker 11 (01:15:06):
Divest onto an individual in regards to visitation. So, in
other words, if you have a visit, if there's a
visitation issue, once the kid turns eighteen, or you want
visitation and the kids turned eighteen, there's nothing you can
do because the child is eighteen. The court has no
more jurisdiction over an eighteen year old kid. Now, what
the court does have jurisdiction on is child support until

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that kid officially ages out, either by graduating high school
later in the year or if they're still continuously enrolled
in high.

Speaker 6 (01:15:36):
School up until the age of twenty.

Speaker 11 (01:15:38):
Okay, But that is only the only control of the
court has left once a child turns eighteen, all right,
is if there's child support involved, that's it. They can't
control visitation or custody. There's nothing left to do because
that person is now an adult. When it comes to
custody and visitation issues, all right, So you can't when
a child's eighteen, you can't file.

Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
A motion to enforce visitation or a motion for visitation.

Speaker 11 (01:16:02):
Or anything like that. Once they're eighteen, it's done. They're eighteen,
they're an adult. Pick up the phone and call them,
go and see them, call the other side and say, hey,
I'm coming to see my kid or something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:13):
Has no control.

Speaker 11 (01:16:14):
The court has zero control over customing visitation. That they
do have control over the child support until the child
officially ages out under the law.

Speaker 8 (01:16:22):
Right, because some would think if I'm paying child support,
I should be able to see my kid.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
We should be following. We're following that part. Why aren't
we following the other parts?

Speaker 7 (01:16:29):
Right?

Speaker 11 (01:16:29):
And the thing is is, and I just want to
explain this because there's been some confusion on some questions
that if you know, we've dealt with at our office
and things like that. You know, so technically there are
two custodis or will or two you know, two controls
that the court can do. But again, once a person
turns eighteen, the court has no jurisdiction over doing anything
with them other than saying good luck, that's unfortunately just

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the way it is, because now they're an adult by
the law.

Speaker 8 (01:16:52):
Well, you must be a mind reader, because a text
that I had held over from last week was, my
daughter turns eighteen in October and then graduates in May
from high school, paid child support to our mom. How
when do I need to start the process to have
child support stop?

Speaker 11 (01:17:06):
So you know, what I always tell people is if
they're graduating in May, all right, and they're in eighteen
and they're getting ready to college and all that, you know,
we typically want to start the process in about March, okay,
because by the time we get hurt, it'll be May.
And by the time May rolls around, it's time for
them to graduate and that'll be done. So I always
tell people call me in March, like early March. Don't
wait till mid or late March. Call me in early

(01:17:27):
March and say, hey, my kid's aging out, they've turned eighteen,
they're getting ready to graduate, we've got a child support issue.
Let's get it taken care of. Because it doesn't automatically end.
A lot of people think that, oh, my kid's eighteen,
they've graduated high school, and now it's all over. No,
in fact, I've seen people call They've had people call me,
and I have clients who have represented who've called me

(01:17:47):
and said, Hey, my kid's twenty years old and I'm
still paying child support. I don't understand. I don't owe
any arrears because I've always paid on time. I don't
owe any interest in anybody. Why am I still paying this? Well,
it's because we didn't terminate it when they You shouldn't
say we because you're hiring me after the fact. You
didn't terminate or have it terminated when the child turned
eighteen or graduated high school, or by the time they

(01:18:08):
graduated high school. So you know, are there cases where
it has been automatically terminated. I've seen dhs and small
really small counties do that because they have the time
to do that. But in bigger counties like Tulsa, Okamoa
County you know some others, they just don't have time
to go through tens of thousands of cases to do that.
And they don't have the computer system okay, because the

(01:18:30):
computer system that they're using is from the nineteen eighties. Okay,
their program is decades old, and they don't have the
money to get a new one.

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
They don't.

Speaker 11 (01:18:39):
What I'm getting is they don't have a way to
market so that they get an automatic message that says, hey,
this person is turning eighteen and graduating in May.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
It doesn't work like that. And unfortunately, if you've had
this happen, call me. Let's get it terminated.

Speaker 8 (01:18:51):
Beth is joining us on the line. Beth, what's your
question for? Jeff Hensley of Hensley and Associates.

Speaker 12 (01:18:56):
Yes, Hi, I was wondering my daughter's western sixteen. She
is a high functioning she has high functioning autism, and
I need to know if if she needs to be
on Social Security as an adult and it's so, does

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that cancel? Like once she turns eighteen, is she going
to not get child support anymore?

Speaker 11 (01:19:23):
Or so if she's on Typically what happens is if
she's on, if she's on Social Security SSI or whatever
that amount. Typically I know she's not what I'm saying
if she does get on child if she does get
on it, okay, by the time she's eighteen and you're
receiving money for that, typically that will replace the amount

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that's owed on child support. But but it depends and
of course whether or not she qualifies. I mean if
she's super high functioning, she may or may not qualify
for Social Security.

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
I mean just depends.

Speaker 12 (01:19:55):
Yeah, she's not super high functioning, she she will not
be driving.

Speaker 6 (01:20:00):
I understood.

Speaker 11 (01:20:01):
I understand, But I mean, all I'm saying is on
the social security.

Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
Side of things.

Speaker 11 (01:20:05):
As far as whether she qualifies or not, you need
to call a Social Security disability lawyer, don't.

Speaker 6 (01:20:10):
I don't do that kind of law.

Speaker 11 (01:20:12):
I haven't looked at anything like that since I was
in law school almost twenty years ago. So you want
to call a Social Security disability attorney for that. But
as far as the child support, typically if they're receiving
SSI benefits, that will replace the amount that's being accepted
for child support.

Speaker 6 (01:20:28):
But it depends.

Speaker 11 (01:20:28):
So again, call the SSI attorney and they can get
you better answers on that.

Speaker 12 (01:20:34):
Okay, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Thank you, Beth.

Speaker 8 (01:20:36):
Jeff Finsley's joining us from Hensley and Associates. You got
a question that has to do with family law. He's
here to answer it right now. BMMS and whatever that
is to eight two nine four five. You can email
show at kmod dot com or you can call it
eight through three four six, Oh KMOD someone text wanted
to go back to paying child support after they've aged out,

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because the question they have is, how is it child
support if they're now considered an adult?

Speaker 7 (01:21:01):
And I think that's a fair question. It feels kind
of like a smart ask question.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
But how that.

Speaker 8 (01:21:05):
Feels like a fair question, and probably how a lot
of people feel when they're not allowed their kids aged
out and is considered adult, but they have to pay
child support.

Speaker 6 (01:21:14):
That's the law.

Speaker 11 (01:21:15):
I mean, I don't know what else to tell you, man,
I get the feeling. I understand it. What you're saying
is valid, but you know, I don't write the laws.
And I will tell you the law says that, you know,
if they turn eighteen in the middle of their senior year,
you still have.

Speaker 6 (01:21:30):
To pay until they graduate.

Speaker 11 (01:21:32):
They don't quote officially age out as to child support,
even if they're eighteen, until they actually graduate. And that's
just because what the law says. That's what the law says.
I don't know why the law said that. That's the
law that's been in practice at least thirty plus years,
if not more than that. Again, and I hate to
come back to this all the time, but it's one

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of those things when people complain about the laws. It's
not that I don't. It's not that I don't agree
with you. It's just that I don't have the power
to change anything. Your legislator, you're you're legislator for whatever
district you live in in the state, has the ability
to change that. You need to contact them. What you're
arguing is valid.

Speaker 6 (01:22:08):
I agree.

Speaker 11 (01:22:09):
I think part my guess, and this is just Jeff's thoughts, okay,
is that even though the child is eighteen, they're still
typically living at home. I think that's the idea, is
that you know, even if you turn even if you
got an early birthday, and you turn eighteen in October
and you don't graduate till May, all right, you're still
living at home until you graduate, at which point there's

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still food and all this other stuff that you know,
the parent has to pay for until the kid ages
out at eighteen and then goes.

Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
Off to college or moves out or whatever they do
at eighteen.

Speaker 8 (01:22:39):
Right now, there's an expectation the child will be in
the quote unquote care of the primary parent until they're
done with school.

Speaker 11 (01:22:46):
Correct, And so that's that's my thought that I believe.
And this is here's the fancy term that the law uses.
I believe that was the quote legislative intent. Okay of
the legislators that created this loss so again, and I
hate that dumping on you. Legislators that are out there
are listening, you know, grateful you guys, listen, but listen. Okay,

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when these when people call in and complain about what's
going with the laws, legislators, please listen. These are your constituents.
They're the ones that have to live this daily. So
take a hint, guys.

Speaker 8 (01:23:17):
Jeff Heinsley from Hensley and Associates is in the studio.
Eight three three four six, Oh kme od is the
phone number. That's what Paul did. He's got a question.
Go ahead, Paul, you're on with Jeff Hensley of Hensley
and Associates.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Ah.

Speaker 13 (01:23:28):
Yes, I have one daughter that is aged out, graduated,
all that good stuff. And then I have one daughter
it's fourteen, and I own two vehicles and a camper
uns one vehicle. We're renting a house. So the whole
thing about when you get divorced you lose half of everything,

(01:23:49):
is is that just a bad way to.

Speaker 9 (01:23:54):
Look at it?

Speaker 11 (01:23:54):
Or so you're saying that you've got which is if
I'm hearing you correctly, just make sure I unders and
what you're getting at is you all are still married,
living separately, and you're concerned that if you get.

Speaker 7 (01:24:07):
Well.

Speaker 11 (01:24:10):
Okay, so I guess what's your question. I'm a little confused.
You're you're afraid of losing stuff? Is that what I'm hearing?

Speaker 13 (01:24:18):
Well, if we get divorced is the old the way
people say it that I've talked to that I've gotten
divorced four is they will take half your stuff. So well,
they don't thinking that I own.

Speaker 6 (01:24:30):
They don't take half your stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:24:31):
The way the law says that it's an equitable division
of the assets, which usually means a fifty to fifty division.
But that doesn't mean a physical exchange necessarily of items. Okay,
So we would put two columns, one for you, one
for her, and we look at the you know, what's
your your camper worth, what's your trailer? What's your car worth?
Same thing for her side of things. And the idea

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is to come out with even numbers at the bob
and of course we take into our equal numbers at bottom.
I mean, what we take into account. You know, we're
tired German accounts and stocks and bonds and cash and
all these other things, home equity, all this other stuff
that goes into it, you know. So it doesn't mean
she's going to physically take your camper or your vehicle
per se, but there will probably have to be some
offsets on both sides, depending upon what's in your in

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your marital estate.

Speaker 6 (01:25:17):
I mean, you'd have to give me a place. Okay,
does that answer your question?

Speaker 9 (01:25:22):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:25:22):
And I have one last question at that time. I
have a separate bank account that we don't use for
home puns or fuel for anybody's vehicle. It's just mine alone.

Speaker 7 (01:25:34):
No, it's not.

Speaker 11 (01:25:36):
Under the law, it's not. No, I mean it's still marital.
You've put marital funds, You've put funds that were created
or collected during the marriage into an account with your
name on it. But it's still a joint marital I mean,
it's not a joint account as in, oh, this is
our joint bank account. It is a part of the
marital estate account. So just because you've been socking money

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away without telling her doesn't mean that she's not entitled
to half. The only way that you only way all
the listeners out there, the only way that account like
that would ever be considered non marital, as if it
were For example, you received an inheritance from somebody who
died or something and you stuck it in an account
and just let it sit there forever. That would be
considered separate because it's an inheritance and you've not mingled

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it with anything. But if you take marital money and
suck it away and not tell her, she's still going
to get part of it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
That's the law.

Speaker 7 (01:26:29):
Paul.

Speaker 8 (01:26:29):
I'm glad you called because I think a lot of
people feel the way you do. It's whatever they've seen
in the movies or their friends tell them or google,
and it isn't like they you know, they make you
cut the seedew in half or the house in.

Speaker 6 (01:26:41):
Half, right, although those videos are funny.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
So I'm glad you called to ask that question.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Paul.

Speaker 13 (01:26:47):
Yeah, it's great because you know, I can't afford another rent,
so I can't pay hers and move out, so I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Where to go.

Speaker 11 (01:26:56):
Yeah, it's unfor I mean again, this is part of
when I say the system is broken.

Speaker 6 (01:27:00):
This is part of the broken system.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
I think, does she work?

Speaker 8 (01:27:03):
Yes, she does, Okay, so there would be an expectation
depending on how much she makes that she should be
able to provide her own housing.

Speaker 11 (01:27:11):
Correct, Yeah, I mean absolutely. I mean there's again we'd
have to look into other things, like is alimony warranted here?

Speaker 6 (01:27:17):
I mean, is it not?

Speaker 9 (01:27:18):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
It's based upon need and ability to pay?

Speaker 11 (01:27:20):
I mean, just because someone has a need doesn't mean
the other side has an ability to pay.

Speaker 6 (01:27:24):
And there's all sorts of factors in here.

Speaker 11 (01:27:25):
I mean, in fact, if you want to give your
name I number to Gimpy, I can call you later
this week and we can walk through some more scenarios
that are a little more pointed and directed. So because
we just don't have time for it on the radio
right now, but we can go through that and see
what we can come up.

Speaker 7 (01:27:38):
With for you.

Speaker 13 (01:27:39):
All right, well, I appreciate your time.

Speaker 8 (01:27:41):
Thanks, Paul, hang on the line. Give your information to Gimpy.
Let's go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
Oh no, no, I go if we've got a listener,
list go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:27:47):
Yeah, let's go to Cindy. Cindy, go ahead. What's your
question for Jeff Hensley of Hensley and Associates.

Speaker 10 (01:27:53):
Hi, I have a daughter asing out eighteen in October,
graduating in May. But we get SSI right for her
from our father dying fifteen years ago. Okay, so my
question was, do I need to get a lawyer? Do
I get it till she graduates or the law just
like it is, eighteen is out even though she'll be

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a little bit at home because she's a senior.

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:28:17):
Also, I know it does carry into a college if
she takes some TCC college courses. I didn't know if
that helped or doesn't matter if it's not four.

Speaker 11 (01:28:25):
Year well, and again that's that's outside of what I
practice unfortunately, so you know, only I just always tell
people in cases like this call a social security disability lawyer.

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
If you don't know any, please call my office.

Speaker 11 (01:28:37):
I'd be happy to give you some referrals of people
that I know and trust that I know do good jobs.
But there these are soci security disability questions that I
just don't have the answer to you because it's outside
the realm of child support, especially if they've been receiving
it for several years because the father passed away before.

Speaker 10 (01:28:52):
So, okay, I appreciate it. I might call your office
very much, Thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (01:28:57):
Well, thank you appreciate you. People call they listen to
their friends. They believe the movies, and you've got to
get the right answers. And that's why the folks at
Heinsley Associates have set up a free fifteen minute consultation.
If you mentioned kmo D, when you call them at
nine eight three, nine eight five six nine two eight
three nine eight five six nine two mentioned KMO D,

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you'll get to talk with Jeff or one of the
associates at the office and you can give more details
that are pertinent to your case so you can get
a better answer again nine eight three nine eight five
six nine two. And if you find yourself in other
areas of the law needing assistance, Jeff can help with that.

Speaker 11 (01:29:34):
Right So through our office out in Paisco, give Sam
Allison a call out there. It's the Shoemake Law Firm.
It's a different name, but it is our firm. We
just left it as far as the name is concerned.
It's been there since nineteen seventy four in downtown Pahsca.

Speaker 6 (01:29:46):
Give him a call.

Speaker 11 (01:29:47):
Anything addition, in addition to famiue law, if you've got
a criminal case, is something as small as a speeding
ticket or as big as a murder case versus in
everything between.

Speaker 6 (01:29:56):
He can help you with.

Speaker 11 (01:29:57):
If you've got a contract issue, we do a lot
of pro bit work up there, lots of wills and trust.
If you've got an issue about oil and gas, anything
like that. We don't do ssis, as you've heard today,
that's one thing we don't do. But in addition to
everything else, including family law, Sam can help you with
you up there. I'm up there now once a week
to help clients as well with Sam up there, So

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please give us a call up there or call me
down here in Tulsa. I'd love to help you any
way we can in regards to anything in addition to
family law.

Speaker 8 (01:30:25):
Nine eight three nine eight five six nine two for
Hinsley Associates nine eight three nine eight five six nine
to two.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Jeff, have a great week, hey too, We'll be back.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
There's this weird thing that happened in the Billy Joel
documentary that's on HBO. He had to come out and say,
I don't know why you needed to say this, that
he's never had a duy that there were because there
was all these rumors that he's had a lot of duys.
He says there, which I wasn't aware of. He said

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that he's never had one and that you can check
the police records and that he attests all of his collisions.
He's had to mental fog and had nothing to do
with the booze.

Speaker 7 (01:31:09):
Okay, I guess there are different reasons for mental fog.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:31:14):
He had a car crash in June of two thousand
and two where it was there lifted to a hospital.
He had additional accidents in January of two thousand and three,
April of two thousand and four. He said his mind
wasn't right, that he wasn't focused, and he explains in
the documentary, and here's why I'm bringing this up, that
he went into a deep, deep depression after the nine
to eleven attacks. Okay, he said, nine to eleven just

(01:31:39):
knocked the wind out of me, and I don't even
know if I've recovered from it. It really really hurt
that man could do that to man. And then there
was a breakup with somebody and it took me a
while to get back on my feet again.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Hold on hold the phone.

Speaker 8 (01:31:57):
You are shocked that man could do that to man
when you self proclaimed have cheated on your wife, you've
stolen your friend's best your best friend's wives, Like, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
Right? The brain fog I can see because he is
suffering with brain.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Two thousand and one.

Speaker 8 (01:32:20):
Two thousand and one, Yeah, twenty four years ago, not
something that he's been diagnosed in the last five years. Sure, right,
he's claiming the brain fog and all that was because
of the deep depression from nine to eleven. There is
no doubt he didn't feel some sort of depression or
anxiety from nine to eleven. But to blame multiple recks

(01:32:44):
on that multiple years afterwards doesn't feel accurate. Either you
did or did not have alcohol in your system at
the time. If you did, I think it's safe to say.

Speaker 7 (01:32:55):
It played a factor in those accidents.

Speaker 8 (01:32:57):
But don't sit there with such a moral high ground
that how could man do this to man when you
yourself have done some pretty apparent things to man.

Speaker 7 (01:33:05):
We are talking about mister whedn't start the fire, right, correct?
Who wrote a song about all the horrible things that
man has done throughout history?

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Yeah, fair point.

Speaker 7 (01:33:15):
So it's like, how could you not know that? Billy? Furthermore, Susan, Wow,
I understand, and I'm not trying to undermine nine to
eleven or what you know happened, especially the trauma that
the families of people of the victims, Yeah, would go through.
Did he have anybody that he knew personally involved. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
I understand the point you're making.

Speaker 8 (01:33:39):
And you would think someone who had a direct connection
would feel a lot of trauma at all. But sometimes people,
especially when you have a connection to a city, Okay,
you also get that feeling.

Speaker 7 (01:33:50):
Yeah, Okay, I guess maybe same thing if if it
had happened here.

Speaker 8 (01:33:55):
It's kind of like the Texas floods that happened and
those little girls that got swept away. I don't have
a direct connection to that, but the id idea of
it and the empathy I have made me to the
point where I was like, I can't watching this.

Speaker 7 (01:34:07):
It makes me sad.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Yeah, it makes you think of your own Yeah, so
kind of like that, I would think.

Speaker 7 (01:34:11):
Okay, and he is from New York, right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
New Jersey.

Speaker 8 (01:34:16):
He's an East Coast guy, right. I could see it then,
But it was such a bizarre thing to see him
have to one address that and stand like, ah, I've
never had alcohol. Okay, we get it, you're not gay,
Slow down, right. It feels like a giant jump to
that and he he isn't like this always good, doing

(01:34:38):
the right thing kind of guy.

Speaker 6 (01:34:41):
Or I was right?

Speaker 8 (01:34:43):
Maybe you know he's he's definitely possibly could have changed
by then. But if I remember correctly, he's got kind
of a reputation of being a loose cannon.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Yeah, it does feel like, what is why are you
doing this?

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
I think to have a documentary makes sense.

Speaker 8 (01:35:00):
He's at an age where he's provided all this music
and you're like, yeah, I would love to learn more
about his life. But the thing when it's a documentary
put on by you, you know that there's some messages
being you're trying to control a little bit of the message.
And to be honest, if he had a bunch of
DUIs and he was drunk or was a drunk or

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is a drunk, I don't care. It's who you are man.
Maybe that's what made those brilliant songs. Maybe all the
trauma that you've shelved, that's how you manage it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:35:35):
I don't think that makes you a superhero or not
a superhero. Plenty of people deal with things that way,
But to be so like I couldn't believe it and
then to blame it on nine to eleven feels wild.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Yeah, it feels wild.

Speaker 7 (01:35:50):
To have that take.

Speaker 8 (01:35:52):
I'm sure nine to eleven affected all of us a
little bit differently, Bote it affected us, and maybe I
changed some things that I did because of that, But
I don't think I've blamed anything on it.

Speaker 7 (01:36:09):
Do you think he's taken like the nine to eleven
round as a as a deflection, you know, And if
I say it to nine to eleven, then you know
people will you know, they'll they'll maybe go easy or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:36:21):
You know, Yes, yes, I guess I can only come
up with this illustration when my dad died, when when
Biggie died, when my best friend died, I had an out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
I had a way to blame.

Speaker 8 (01:36:40):
Bad things on those events, and people would give you
a pass. I believe you have to make the right
decision all the time. Bad things happen to people all
the time. It is your job to make wise decisions
for yourself, to make the best possible outcome. And if

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you decide to get drunk and then reckon, you know,
wreck a car or hurt some people, well you don't
get to blame that you made those decisions.

Speaker 7 (01:37:09):
Right, Well, what happened if X y Z didn't happen first,
that's maybe people's justification of making poor decisions.

Speaker 8 (01:37:19):
Maybe I get to say this again, we're all just
a few bad decisions away from bad things happening to us.
So to me, there's no ownership in that statement from
Billy Joel And to hear him go so deep in
and I'm kind of like, what a dick? Because you
really affected some people's lives when you're like, how could
man do this? Demand you you decided to drink and

(01:37:39):
get behind the wheel, or you knew you weren't in
a good mental state and get behind the wheel, and
you caused some real changes some people's lives. So I
just feel like he doesn't come off as a great
person in the documentary.

Speaker 7 (01:37:55):
I haven't seen the documentary, probably not gonna watch. I'm
not a big Billy Joel fan. I do like, we
didn't start the fire.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
What about uptime?

Speaker 7 (01:38:04):
Girl? I do like, we didn't start the fire. But
you know, looking at some of the things that I'm
just like, because I just google bad things Billy Joel did,
and oh my god, Yeah, he's a pos dude.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
He's not a good dude.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:38:19):
Now, maybe as he's getting older in life and he's like,
I got a makeup, you know for some of this.
I don't know. Maybe that's what he's trying to do.
I don't know. Piano Man, big Shot, only the good
die young?

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Really?

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:38:34):
Not even scenes from an Italian restaurant.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Oh come on, all right, we gotta take a break.
We'll be back.

Speaker 6 (01:38:43):
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