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Welcome Back From The Weekend!!! We Talk About Best & Worst Parts, Getting Pissy About Your Neighbor's Cat Can Get You Shot With A Flare Gun, When Your Camerman Goes On A Public Pee Spree, Ex Teacher Of The Year Busted For Sexual; Assault Of Student, We Spoke To An Awesome Listener, Jeff Hensley Joins Us, & An Old Man Robbed Three Banks In One Day!!!

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Do you at nine at eight three three four six kmod.
I feel like I have a sense of responsibility to
find very weird things to talk about.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
And I had heard of this before but didn't know
it was a thing. And it's called tooth an eye surgery.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Tooth and I and that sounds familiar. It is rare
before one gets a surgery. Hold on there, GIMPI.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
But it's one where somebody gets a surgery that has
had damage to their cornya of a burn, some sort
of trauma, and they take a tooth out of your
mouth and put it in your eye so you can see.
They developed it in the nineteen sixties. Right, here's a
picture of a tooth, so you guys can see it

(04:49):
and decide for yourself if you think that that's pretty good,
hopefully that works. It's exactly it, right, It is a
tooth with a hole in it, And you're like, okay,
I can only imagine when you can't see, You're like,
please fix this, yes, right, so you go ahead. Yeah,

(05:10):
it takes two surgeries. They plunk it out, drill a hole,
put a lens in it, and then take your out. Now,
for people that can't see these pictures, they replace your
eyeball or the corny apart with a tooth.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Hence the second picture I'm sending you. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I would oh, being able to see sounds like a
good idea. But when you see the photo of the
tooth in the eye, Now this is after the surgery.
I don't know if it's right after. I don't know
if it's six months after, a year after. It does
not look like an eye. It looks like they have

(05:48):
the absolute worst case of pink eye ever it does.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
Or what people do when they buy those contact lenses
to have scary eyes at Halloween.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, it is bizarre. I wonder how
they discovered that procedure.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
From what I read it, Like I said, it was
developed in the sixties, and not very many people have
had this done. It's not like in the thousands or millions,
but that has helped hundreds of people be able to
see again. And developed in the sixties, I can't I'm
sure there was a couple of times they got it wrong.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, but they need.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
The problem they had was they tried different things and
the body would reject it. And so they're like, we
need something that can withstand the harsh environment of the eyeball. Okay,
I hear Amazon, you say, eyeball, whatever you think, doc. Yeah,
So they decided to try a tooth because it's durable,
it's from your own body.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Your body won't reject it. And there you go, Okay,
that's fair. Does it matter which tooth it is. It
has to be a tooth.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
It has to be a tooth that is healthy, and
it has to be of the right size that can
use in your eye if you like, I have these
little tiny canines. Initially they tried it with canines and
it didn't work, and then they went to the bigger
teeth and use that.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
But I was sure if it like had to be
a molar or it had to be like a canine
incizeor or whatever you know, right.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Ah, So.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
That sent me down a rabbit hole of bizarre or
strange medical procedures that work.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay, and some of these you might know and some
of them you might not. But like this tooth and eyeball,
you go, ooh, that's how bad is it you at
least evaluate that. I'm not making light of it.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
If you can't see, I'm sure being able to see
would be greatly beneficial. Toe to thumb transplant. If you
lose a thumb, surgeons can take a toe, the big one,
and transport it and transplant it to the hand. It
helps her store and grip. And your thumb's vitally important
and when you don't have it, it makes it a
little difficult.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Over here really trying and compare my big toe to
my thumb. Of course I'm a little different, but like
you know, because I can't bend my thumb at the
first joint by myself. But I'm like, well, how did
that work? But I guess as I'm sitting here bending
my toes, I'm like, yeah, I guess that would work.
It would just look weird, So it does not having
a thumb.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Tell me about it, right, and they The idea is
that having one less foot or one less toe is
less disabling than having no thumb, right.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Right, But don't you need You need like your big
toe and your pinky toe for balance, right right?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
But like you just said, if you can get rid
of one of them, I don't know but again, would
you rather maybe fall over in a strong wind or
not be able to ever grab anything right?

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right, any anything you wouldn't be doing alone time, not
with your right hand. It it would be a little different,
that's for sure. Adapt and overcome.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
This one I had never heard before, but it makes sense.
And that is a bladder made from intestines.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
After bladder cancer or damaged, surgeons can take a piece
of the intestine, testine, intestine, reshape it into a new bladder.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Okay, yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, it feels like we're in the same zip code.
Yeah right, it doesn't feel that odd. One's urine, one's.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
You know, wist, it's all waste in the end. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Ear grown on arm, Now I have heard of this one,
and this is when they do reconstruction surgery. Doctors have
grown in ear under the skin of someone's arm and
then later transplanted it to the head. The arm skin
provides a blood supply while the cartilage ear takes shape.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Oh God, that gives mage that one. It gives a
whole new meaning to talk to the hands. Yeah, they
have ears on their arms. That's so bizarre.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
This one I'd never heard of. It's called foot on
leg backward surgery. It's used for my own cancer in
the thigh. Insurgeons remove the disease part of the leg,
rotate the lower leg one hundred and eighty degrees and
attach it, and the ankle functions as a knee joint
for a prosthetic limb.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Wow, amazing, right a lot.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yes, And they said it looks really weird, but you
still have mobility. That's crazy, right, yeah, okay, so hear
me out.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I have this idea.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Then there's this one that may fall in line under
the tooth and eye thing. Bowel segment as an esophagust.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Vowel segment as an esophagust. So they're taking part of
your bowel and putting it in your throat.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
In case of severe disease in the esophagus, a piece
of the colon are small intestine can be pulled up.
That feels not accurate, it's not underwear, right, pulled up
and connect to replace the esophagus. It allows patients to
swallow food again through though digestion feels different. You don't say,

(11:09):
it feels like a shorter trip I would imagine. And
so that one you're like, okay, but if you've ever
had a colon cleanse, like for a colonoscopy, and you
see pictures of your colon afterwards, it's quite clean. Yeah,
so I would I would imagine they get it pretty
clean before they use it on your esophagus.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I was running under the sink for a little while
to be all.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Right, right, this one is strange. And also I don't know,
but a voice box from intestine hmm. They use pieces
of your intestine to reconstruct the larynx after cancer. Interesting,
the intestine vibrates to produce sound completely different from its

(11:57):
original job.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yes, though you still be speaking bso yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
And then this one, which I have heard before, and
that is penile reconstruction from your forearm. So you go
from forearm to foreskin, and they use skin nerves and
vessels from the forearm to build a functioning penis. Not
repurposing an organ, but still taking tissue from one place
to sort of a very different purpose.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
All right, not the Google image search that I wanted.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, no, no, no, nobody had penis made from forearm
on their BINGO card this morning.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
No, And they and they things.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Are usually arrived at through mistakes, many sometimes fifty six
Heine's fifty seven, so maybe I can't imagine how many
mistakes they made. No, No, I really think this time
it'll be the ear that will reconstruct the penis.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
Right does it say on there how many or if
anyone has survived those given examples of any famous people
maybe that have had those surgeries, like there.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Was I think you get that done, you automatically your
status el that is just maybe not in the right circle.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Then you know, it's the Dazzled movie. It's I want
to be famous. Okay, you're famous for having a penis
made out of you for right.

Speaker 8 (13:28):
Like I could see some singers maybe having the vocal.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Cord, yeah, surgery, that would makes sense.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Larynx, yes, yes, and I can't imagine it would function
at the same pitch tone as before. Yeah, and that
you probably you know, like the people that have the
backward leg aren't anywhere sprinter. You're not going to keep sprinting, right,
Not everybody's the blade guy who kills their wives.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
But you know what I'm saying. So I don't know
if you would might still be doing it.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
I could see them that being a reason why, well
they retired because of the fact like they had to
have a surgery, and they went for this one and
didn't go as is what they wanted. Yeah, but that's
crazy to think of.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
A tooth in your eye. For sure, yeah, the look
of it.

Speaker 7 (14:20):
But they were like, hey, you know this glass eye,
it's gonna look better, but you're not gonna be able.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
To see out of it, right, you still can't see.
It's just cosmetic exactly. Well if that's the case, then, right,
because like aren't like glass eyes. They're not like actual eyeballs, right,
they're just kind of you know, like like a contact
lens sort of thing, right to make it look like
a little eye.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
Well, it looks like it's like a marble Okay, yeah,
that looks like as an eyeball.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
My thought was like, well, why don't we just take
one of those. You can still do the tooth and
eye surgery, but get that glass eye contact looking thing
and right on top of it so you don't look
like a weirdo who's been smoked too much reefer and
got the weird black pupil thing.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I think the difference is the marble eye or the
cover is cosmetics. So there's no active organ in your eye,
there's no open wound or anything like that. So like
it's a contact that sits on top of the damaged eye,
which is we've seen be fine, or it is a

(15:22):
socket that is there's no living organ in it to reject.
And this surgery, the tooth and eye surgery, is for
people that have good functioning back of eye, but their cornea,
the front part is just damaged due to a chemical
burn or an explosion or fire or some sort of trauma.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But yeah, but instead of having that and I get
all that, but like, let's look a little normal and
just get like a cover that looks like an actual
eye over your tooth eye. Oh, I see what you're
saying all over that? Okay, yeah, I mean I know
it's it. You can still see because you have the
tooth and eye surgery. But damn, we don't want to
look at that, you weirdo. Right, look me in the eye.
I can finally see. No, No, I'm scared of grandpa. Right,

(16:08):
there's something wrong with that. How come you can't look
me in the eye. It's weird man, right, but Grandpa
can see again. Isn't it beautiful? No, it's scary.

Speaker 9 (16:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
And maybe they do, maybe they already do that. They
put some sort of you know, maybe you just wear glasses. Yeah, right,
with Stevie Wonder, I was.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
Just gonna say, maybe Stevie Wonder could can actually see
this whole time.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Nothing surprises me anyway, and I thought to be a
certain way my whole life are apparently not. So it
wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world if suddenly,
like Steve's.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Like, hey, I can't see gotcha?

Speaker 9 (16:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Do you are you happy for him? Are you like,
are you like, oh, okay good? Or do you go bro?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Do you like Stevie Wonder Moore because he and Ray
Charles because they're partially blind, is it like sympathy like?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
And also they're good. They're good. I'm not saying they're
not good. Oh, they're great musicians, but they've lied to
us for decades. A lot of musicians have lied to
you for decades. Pretty big lie though, man, Okay, okay,
I'm so blind. I can't see.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
They're like, hey, Stevie, people aren't believing you. Maybe you
can just shake back and forth, right, I don't know, man,
I don't know any blind.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
People that do that.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, just trust me because they're lost, right, so they
can't see, so they don't know they're doing it.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
They don't have equilibrium, right, I would still be pissed.

Speaker 7 (17:38):
I think you pissedpoint, But yeah, disappointed, Yeah, disappointed.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't know. It's like being disappointed that Ozzie didn't
bite the head off our live bat, right, right. I
guess whatever works, man, everybody needs a stick. And if
you want to go with the blind route whatever. Most
musicians are larp. Okay, we're just pretending to be music.
It's a character.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
No, well there, it's a character. They're portrayed on the stage. Right,
they're obviously con sing and all that. But Marilyn Manson,
isn't that right, Alice Cooper, isn't that Yes, so it
is a little bit of performance.

Speaker 10 (18:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
A lot of country guys aren't country, right. They group
in the city, never step foot on a farm, never
owned a Chevy. Yeah right, But they're great country singers.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, when they're singing a song that somebody else wrote.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
A lot of sings. But that's to my point. A
lot of singers do that. A lot of people someone
else writes the song. Sidebar, did you hear about the fight.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
At Border Race? It's so awesome videos. And I just
watched a video before he came on at Gavin ad
Cock was telling his side of the story or whatever,
and I guess Zach was going around just being douchey
looking for Gavin, because you know, he'd been spew and
stuff on social media about uh, about him whatever, And

(19:05):
I'm just like, huh, what's going on. I just I
liked the video where we climb over the fence. I
was like, I've been to I know that fence, yeah,
which is insane. He tried to climb over a ten
foot chain. Yeah, and then barbed razor wire. Yeah, You're like,
what do you not razor wire? I guess I guess
what you what are you? What are you doing? Go

(19:25):
around the gates right there, bro, just just walk around,
you know how tired i'd be, no kidding. Yeah. And
then did he have a blanket to kind of put
over the barb bro? He didn't know, put a foot
right on top of it and climb on over. Hope
it don't rip my pants? Hold me back, bro?

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, Like, come on, man, I don't know how that
makes you better, right, it doesn't. I don't know if
you win points in the country music world. By trying
to fight another country music artist makes you look douchey,
not like Nascar, right when those guys there's a valid defense.

(20:06):
You took a chance for me to win Rubbins Racing whatever.
But this you're like because he commented on your social
media post he called.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
You out right? Who cares what he says? He's all
fired up. Now you're in my backyard, now boy, and
come getch.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
You well, And Gavin dogged him by saying, I'm headlining
in a festival in your town, which, okay, I guess.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Back did a couple of years ago. It's okay if
I was, Zach could be like an arena tours right,
sold out multiple days.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, I feel like Zach doesn't have to fight him
to prove he could just let his accolades show that
he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Really, But what's he doing getting all riled up like this,
doing nothing but causing trouble for himself?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, and if you believe what Gavin says is that
he was walking around going, where's Gaffer be doing?

Speaker 9 (21:02):
You?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Son of a bitch? You listen here, met fly right?
What are you doing? Diff Go back to work, Zach?
You'd be all right, yeah, just.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Keep doing you man. All right, We got to take
a break. We got tickets to Shane Gillis we're gonna
give away coming up.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
The Big Med Morning Show returns next. Let's do news quikies.
It's time for news quakies. World news, local news, news
that just makes you say, what the Here's Corbyn Gimpean
Lindsay with what's going on news quakies from the Big
nine Morning Showing. Ninety five.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
Woman charged after firing a flare at neighbor over pet dispute.
So this happened in Suffolk County, New York, where seventy
six year old Kathleen Schumann didn't like it when her neighbor,
sixty seven year old mister Katron, asked Kathleen to keep
her cat inside because it upset his dog. So, while

(22:05):
mister Katron was out for a walk with his dog,
that's when Kathleen decided that violence was her best option.
She aimed and shot a flare gun directly at her neighbor.
He retaliated by knocking her to the ground, saying you
f an idiot, what's wrong with you? Police say it
was all captured on video thanks to her doorbell ring camera.

(22:30):
He required multiple stitches for facial injuries, and Kathleen pleaded
not guilty received a five thousand dollars bail. Appearing in
court with a bandage over her right eye. A judge
ordered her to stay away from her neighbor. Mister Katron
told NBC that she called him the devil and said,

(22:52):
I'm sorry, I missed.

Speaker 8 (22:53):
I'm sorry I missed.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
This video's wild.

Speaker 8 (22:58):
She faces a charges.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I just send it to you. This video is wild.
It's daylight. She's maybe twelve feet from him, Yeah, he's
not that far from her, and she pops him right
in the face with this flair.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
He clearly has damage. And then she goes and he
goes and tries to smoke her. Man tries to start her,
grabs her by the hair, pulls her to the ground,
hits her on the head.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
Mark on his face.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yikes. And they're in like an apartment complex.

Speaker 8 (23:38):
Yeah, it's a like a.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's terrible. That's amazing. I mean, the other weird thing
in the video GIMPI. I don't know if you have
it open.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
But when they finally interview him there, I guess a're
at his house. Maybe you can see his war What
is that in the background. That is that an elf
with a six pack?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah? Yeah, it looks like a fig leaf? Or no,
it's a it's a It looks like a minotaur? Is
it mintar? What is the top half man? You got
that minutar? Yeah? Yeah, centaur or something like it? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (24:19):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Or they goat legs. I don't know because we can't
see the other half. There's a lot going on, but
that statue is ripped. Man, Good for him, dude shooting
someone who the flares crazy. Here's what I'm looking for
from my porch. I need something half man, half goat
with a six pack, life and idea that when we
go to like ross or something, I'm like, hey, do

(24:42):
you have a candle in the shape of a Sunday?

Speaker 3 (24:46):
We do?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's right here, man, son of a bitch cameraman busted
for public pea spree. Do you guys know who Benson
Boone is?

Speaker 9 (24:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Sure, yeah, so he gets it. I've never heard of
this guy before, but I guess I guess I have.
I just never got into his music. Regardless, guy American
idol performer he had a concert down a floor to
last week or whatnots. And I guess this cameraman guy
that's responsible for shooting the videos up onto the jumbo
tron at the concert, he was off and he went

(25:15):
to this surf shop, the surf style shop, and I
guess he was caught on camera upstairs and in between
like two racks. And he was there for quite some time,
and the manager he leaves, and the manager goes up
to see what all that was about. And that's when
the manager discovered that the cameraman, Tyler cape Heart is

(25:36):
his name, had pissed all over the clothes and all
over the floor there between the clothing, ract caused by
seven hundred dollars worth of damages. So naturally the manager
calls police, please catch up with Tyler. They say he
seemed a little intoxicated. G you don't say he admitted
to drinking and smoking a little bit of reefer, but
didn't have any recollection of pissing all over the clothes

(25:58):
or the floor. Hey, neither would I. By the way,
I don't know what you're talking about. I've never did
that anyhow. So they went head took him in for
criminal mischief and disorderly intoxication. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, you
can't resell those clothes. You might be able to donate them,
but who's going to take good will take donate to

(26:19):
pis clothes. I don't know, dude.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
You're telling me somebody at some discount palette store wouldn't
buy that if it was.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Right a dollar. Come on, it washes out, Yeah, it
washes out.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Ex Minnesota teacher of the Year guilty of student sexual assault.
A former Minnesota Teacher of the Year is guilty of
sexually assaulting one of his students. Abdul Right was charged
with first degree criminal sexual conduct by a person in
a position of authority against a thirteen to fifteen year old.
The judge convicted the thirty nine year old definite yesterday.

(26:55):
I guess Friday during a bench trial in Henny Penn
County Court. Prosecutors say Right assaulted a fourteen year old
girl in his class and Harvest Best Academy in Minneapolis.
The sexual encounters lasted for a year. He faces up
to fourteen years in print in prison sentencing. More sentencing
is scheduled on October eighth. That's why when people are like, well.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
They're the teacher of the year, so right, don't matter
you're still a scumback that. Yeah, you can absolutely wear
that as a cloak. Yep.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
They walk amongst us, just waiting for the That's why
they're called predators, right, they.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Lie in wait crazy not as crazy that Flair thing though,
ain't that true? And that statue and I get one.
I bet people will tell us. I hope. All right,
we'll take a break and we'll be back. You're listening
to the Big Man.

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Speaker 2 (28:22):
Good luck, Good morning Gimpie, Well, good morning Corbin. If
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Speaker 1 (28:45):
Right, best and worst the weekend? What's the best thing
that happened this weekend? And the worst thing that happened
this weekend? Bmms and whatever that is to eight two,
nine four five, lindsay what's the best and what's the worst?

Speaker 7 (28:55):
The best was on Saturday morning a girlfriend of mine
called me and she said, hey, let's do brunch today.
And even better, she was buying, so I was like, Okay,
where are we going? And she uh took me to
Big Whiskey, which I had never been over here, and.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
It was delicious. Uh enjoyed it very much. And then
I showed her Magnolia Soap, where she had never been
in the Rose district.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
So we did a little brunching and a little shopping.
I needed some more laundry soap, which I uh, I'm
obsessed with their morning energy and which it just kills
the smell so great, especially with the football players in
my house. Completely deodorizes everything. I mean, it is fantastic.

(29:56):
If you need something that is h perfect, that is
the best stuff. So got her hooked on a new
store as well. Yeah, she was going crazy.

Speaker 8 (30:08):
She's like, oh my gosh, all these soaps.

Speaker 7 (30:10):
As soon as she walked in, she's like, oh this
is I'm gonna be addicted. Thanks a lot, and I
said you're welcome because this is the place. So I
think she may have blown like a couple hundred dollars
in that story.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Who yeah, So how much did you spend?

Speaker 8 (30:26):
I think fifty bucks?

Speaker 2 (30:28):
I guess soap?

Speaker 8 (30:30):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
I did get a new hand soap for the bathroom,
but just my laundry soap.

Speaker 8 (30:37):
So yeah. But that was probably the best part.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
And then the worst part was I needed break from
social media, so I did that, but I had to
like delete a bunch of people from my Facebook feed
and just from all of the negativity, couldn't handle it
any longer.

Speaker 8 (30:54):
It's like goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. So yeah, that was probably
the worst part.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Best worst the weekend. What's the best part of your weekend?
What's the worst part of your weekend can be what's
the best and what's the worst. The best part of
the weekend would have been Saturday. Got together with about
four my good friends and my lady and I we
rode to the to bike fest at the Lake of
the Ozarks up there in Missouri, about a four and
a half hour ride, you know. I left at six

(31:21):
in the morning and got there at about ten thirty
eleven o'clock or so. And my lady's first rally. She's
never seen anything quite like this before. Thousands, thousands of bikes.
And the cool thing about this rally is it's all
over the lake. It's not like just one centralized spot.
Let's all just go the Harley dealership and I want

(31:42):
to see what the guy going on. Yeah, we did that,
but I also went down to the dam where they
get closed off the road and that's where all these
bikes were just lined up in the road.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
It was amazing. Got a cabin up there and they
upgraded a US, right, I guess the one that we're
gonna get. They're like, oh, we're having maintenance issues, we're
gonna upgrade you to the to this house that holds
like twelve people or whatever, and didn't cost us any extra,
and talk about an amazing view. It has its own
little private lake access to you can go swim and

(32:13):
jump off the docks. I didn't realize this until afterwards,
but they got a pontoon out there that's we have
access to and it's like one hundred and fifty dollars
for like the entire day, not just a couple of hours.
I'm like, that's amazing. All kinds of neat little stuff
out there. But yeah, we went and we we tooled around,
we saw all the bike stuff, We hung out, we

(32:34):
cooked up some burgers at the cabin. It was really
a great a great time for everybody. I love Leg
of the Ozarks. The view from the cabins is completely
different than the view at Grant. Yeah, I had never been.
This was the first time for all of us. None
of us had ever been to this rally and never
been to at least I know that me and two

(32:56):
others had never been to the Lake of the Ozark.
So it was it was. It's really awesome. It was
really cool trip. And I guess the worst part. I
really don't have a worst of the weekend, but if
I had to pick one. It was end of the
night and we'd been we'd been drinking at the cabin,
you know, after we got done with all the rally
stuff and we'd been hanging out, and I woke up

(33:18):
on the deck deck. Everybody was gone. I'd done fell
asleep on the floor of the deck outside and everybody
else went inside, you know, went to bed, crawled in
a bed. I was like, oh, last bed standing. Whoo oh,
you don't get to clean that. No, not at all,
not at all. But I just crawled into bed and

(33:40):
you know, got up the next day, felt all right,
and I was like, all right, let's do this. When
you passed hours, do you remember if the sun was
up still, No, it was dark. It was dark, yeah
it was and you just laid on the middle of
the deck. Huh yeah, well it's just you know, sun's down.
I was tired, been up, you know since I think
I got up at like three o'clock that morning or
whatever because we were leaving so early, and uh yeah,

(34:03):
I just I was done, so done so and I
woke up. I was like, okay, that's cool. My back hurts,
no time to time to crawl.

Speaker 10 (34:10):
In the bed.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
And then I did old lady didn't try to wake
Maybe she did, she was already asleep.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
She was already she was already done. Yeah, everybody else.
She was the first one out and uh, and then
the two more fell out, and then another fell out,
and then his old lady fell out and she says
that she tried to wake me up and I wouldn't
have it. And I was like, yeah, that sounds legit,
that sounds legit. But like I guess, we were just
so drained from the ride and all the walking that
we did, Like it was like eleven o'clock and everybody

(34:37):
was done for at the end of the day. I
was like, okay, we're adults, we go to bed early.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Best and worst of the weekend. What's the best thing
that happened this weekend? And the worst thing that happened
this weekend?

Speaker 9 (34:47):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Worst part of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
I the check engine light came on in my my car,
and so I got the coat off of it and
it was the mass airflow sensor and I've cleaned one before,
so I was like, oh, okay, I was do that
twelve dollars can of cleaner.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Clean the sensor, put it back, Hope it'll fix it right, Well,
I lifted.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
This German car or whatever it is, the hood for
this German car, couldn't find it at all. And I
was like, well, son of a bitch, because if there
is a problem, that can do some damage to your car.
So I was like, well, I guess I'll take it
to my guy.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
And then.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
The sensor went away, like the check engine light went off,
which is also indicative of a mass airflow sensor problem. Nonetheless,
that was the worst part, just because I wasted so
much time trying to find it. Best part of the weekend, uh,
my wife and I had a date night, went Nate downtown,
walked around, went to a couple of bars down there,

(35:50):
walked like from downtown to the Boston.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
District or the Brady Arts District or whatever. And it
was awesome. It's a good time.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Got to have some cocktails I've never had before, which
is always awesome, ubered, which is even better.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
What out of your new cocktails that you've never had before,
Which was the best and which was the worst or
was there there wasn't.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Oh wow, this is actually pretty horrible. This could have
been my worst too. So we go to this restaurant
and I'm excited because I because I'm me. I pre
looked at the meno.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
And saw something like a pasta dish with goat.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Cheese aglinads, which are like little pillows filled with cheese,
and I was like, yes, can't wait, yummy, yum yum. Yeah,
and I had some you know, other descriptions in it.
But I was like, yeah, that sounds good. Do our thing,
ordered wine, order the pasta. They bring it to the table.

(36:48):
My wife got like a ragou thing. Looked amazing. They
they haven't even set mine down and the stench of green,
yellow and red bell peppers. Oh no, I was so disappointed.
And so they set it down. I mean it's covered.

(37:10):
My wife's like, oh, don't just don't eat it.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'm like, we bought it. I'm not.

Speaker 10 (37:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
So I had to push all that off and just
hold my nose and just eat all this pasta.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
It went from I can't wait for this moment two
I'm now eight again, saying with my back to the
TV when everyone else has left dinner.

Speaker 8 (37:34):
It doesn't say that on the menu.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
It may have, but it was an Italian. See that's
another reason.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Second, the number of time like you go and you
see like oh AGONAUTI with uh goat cheese, and then
there's some other things you go huh, right, why do
you got to use fants and terms? Just use cream pepper?

Speaker 11 (37:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Best and worst the weekend what this tex says. Best
went on supermoto Sunday around Tulsa. Worst sore today from it.
Best just a nice relaxing weekend. Worst when my alarm
went off this morning. I couldn't even comprehend what an
alarm was for, much less why mine was going off.
Then I got sprayed by an errant sprinkler riding into

(38:23):
work on my motorcycle. Best part was finally speaking my
mind to someone I've wanted dela for years. Worst was
that I had to go to a birthday party for
a friend of my kid and I didn't know a
soul there. Love y' all, thanks for being awesome. That
is me one hundred.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Percent telling somebody off that you wanted to for years,
Or having to go to a birthday party for a kid.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Going to a birthday party not knowing anybody, and I'm
actually an introvert, so I just wallflower it, that's it.
And someone talks to me, and I of course talked
with them, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Oh, hey, so weather, huh not gonna go up mingling. No,
it's not what I'm there for.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Have you tried the.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Right? Typically there's not oduvs at a kid's birthday party.
Usually it's like a bag of cheetos. But I hear you,
I guess that would take technically technically count. Best of
the weekend we went and watched my daughter play softball.
They didn't win, but she played very well. Worst of
the weekend was both our teams, the Dolphin husband's teams
and Giants. My team lose the way they did. Man,

(39:32):
that is a tough house to be in. Giants and Dolphins.
Both head coaches are probably gonna get fired. Best went
to Flippin' Arkansas. Flipping flop flipping, flipping it's an actual,
that's a typo or whatever, but flipping is an actual
in Arkansas.

Speaker 9 (39:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Uh to fish the White River worst DAN was released
and water moving too fast to fish.

Speaker 11 (39:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
AC condenser went out Friday. Found out it's an old
system with an old style refrigerant. Had to replace the
whole AC system seven thousand dollars. I'll be sending my
cash app handle shortly.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Being a homeowner sucks when it comes to something like that.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I did that last year. Yeah, that's one of those
you go they're like, well, what do you want to do?
And I'm always like, are you is that a real question?

Speaker 9 (40:25):
Right?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
We'll just do with the excruciating heat. Well I saved
some money, that's fine. Yeah, He's like it's July. He
was like, he's like, well it's about I think it
was like fifty five hundred and sixty five hundred, and
he was like, he's like, well, so what do you
want to do. I turned around, I'm like, are you
talking to me? Can you get it today?

Speaker 8 (40:45):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh no, it's going to take a couple of days.
If I pay more, will it happened faster?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, that's ac thing. Fix it immediately. I was replacing
a light fixture outside on and I was like, I'll
do it early Saturday morning before it gets hot.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
It was so humid.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, and then we had to go sit at a
football game. We were like, oh, tim thirdyal will be fine. Nope,
still hot roasting you. Yes, that early all right. We
got to take a break. Tickets to Shane Gillis. We're
gonna give those away when we come back and see
what gimpiaz it is?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Four by four? Well, Robin says here that Kirk suspected
killer in court this week. Tyler Robinson will uh reign
be arraigned on state murder charges tomorrow and is expected
to be charged federally at some point. He could face
the death penalty. Meanwhile, Utah go him to Spencer. Cox

(41:39):
says the twenty two year old suspect is deeply indoctrinated
with leftist ideology. Cox added that he can confirm Robinson's
live in romantic partner is the male transitioning to become
a female who was cooperating with the police. Wild All right,
let's make a difference. Oh what else we got here?
Memphis mayor not pleased with Trump troops plan. President Trump

(42:04):
says that he'll send National Guard troops to Memphis as
part of his crackdown on crime and illegal immigration. In
an interview, the president said Memphis is deeply troubled. The
president said that the city's democratic mayor is happy with
the decision, but Mayor Paul Young, however, has since refuted
the claim and says he didn't ask for troops to
patrol the city and does not think that their deployment

(42:26):
will reduce crime. I didn't ask for this, all right?
What else we got here? Russian drones over NATO member
of Romania. Romania says it's scrambled two fighter jets over
the weekend after Russia Russian drones violated violated its airspace.
It came less than a week after Russian drones violated

(42:48):
Polish air space, which is another NATO country. Romania summoned
the Russian ambassador after the events, while the European Union
called the airspace incursion arecksss relation. And then lastly here
Turkey Mountain launches a hiking Buddies program. Everybody get your

(43:08):
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Hiking Buddies program. This will enable people to walk in
groups with volunteers leading the way through the trails in
ships throughout the week, fostering a safer community.

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Speaker 1 (44:30):
All right, Time for our listeners are awesome. This is
where we chat with the listener and they share about
their life on the line with us. Right now is Jay, Hey, Jy,
how are you good?

Speaker 12 (44:40):
How are you going?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Good man?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
It's good to talk to you, Jay has four kids.
What are your kids age ranges?

Speaker 9 (44:48):
I'm gonna have to let me see here. Born in
ninety seven, ninety nine, eighty eight, let's see. I don't
do math.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Quick, that's okay, right, So they're like anywhere between twenty
four and thirty yeah.

Speaker 9 (45:03):
Okay, yeah, yeah, thirty six I think is My oldest
is thirty.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Six, okay, And so they are adults now, right? Oh?

Speaker 9 (45:10):
Yes, yes, yes, yeh. Do you youngest is in the
army has been for years?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
And what was your feeling when he decided to join
the army? Some parents aren't excited. Some parents aren't excited.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
What was your take?

Speaker 9 (45:23):
So my main thing with that is was more so
I've had friends that went in. I tried to go
into the Marines. That's another story. The main thing was
to do something that you could come out on the
other side and actually have a career. I have a
friend that they He was taught to arm F fifteen bombers.
Not a lot of call for that in the world,

(45:44):
so he went in as a drone pilot. We worked
really hard to get him that position, and because of that,
he is coming out of it in April with a
very nice civilian job.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Wow. So he flew drones in the military.

Speaker 9 (45:58):
He's still flying owns in the military.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
And has he been overseas at all or in theater
or has he always been stead well?

Speaker 9 (46:06):
He was. He was stationed in Korea for the first
three years and then he's been in Georgia for the
last three years. But he flies. Of course they fly.
It's all around the world that their planes are located.
They're they're flying from a remote bunker.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Sure, So he's never been specifically in harm's way. So
that had to make you made you feel a little
bit better about his situation.

Speaker 9 (46:27):
Yeah, that part of it is great. The other part
of it, the dealing with what a person sees during
that is the biggest concern that we have, and you
can only you know, you don't know how that's going
to affect you until later in life.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah. Yeah, has he shared anything that he is.

Speaker 9 (46:45):
Witnessed scared enough that it I learned a lot about
what drone pilots actually have to do.

Speaker 8 (46:54):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (46:54):
And I'll just say it this way. In in many
people's mind they probably drop a bomb and go way. No,
they're the ones that have to watch see what happens,
report on it in great detail, right, So they see
quite a bit of terrible stuff, right.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
And they they're just not in person, right, eyes on
whoever they were trying to get or whatever, try to
find things. Yeah, and yeah, you probably see some things
you don't you didn't intend to see me.

Speaker 9 (47:22):
Because when the when the Tomahawk missile hits, it destroys
everything and you have to see it.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, what a Yeah, that's the rost part.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, I can only imagine. Uh, you said you you
tried to get into the Marines. What made you want
to join the Marines? And why didn't you get to
follow through on that?

Speaker 9 (47:40):
When I was young, I was I still like to fight,
but I was a fighter and two of my friends
and best friends had gone into the Marine Corps. So
at the time I thought I wanted to And when
I went to the Marine recruit base, I mean the
recruiter down on admiral, he said what do you want
to do for the Marine? And I said I want

(48:01):
to kill people and they said, we don't need your kind.
And that was confusing to me because I thought that's
what they wanted. Looking back on my life, I'm happy
with my life. I'm not at all upset that I
didn't go. I think I would have come out a
very mean person on the other side, is my feeling.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
You said you liked if I. When was the last
physical altercation you got in?

Speaker 9 (48:26):
What? Like?

Speaker 2 (48:26):
How?

Speaker 9 (48:26):
I know about four years ago I was in a
Verizon store and a lady came in and she was
nine months pregnant, and a guy had done something in
the in the parking lot, and he was a big man.
I'm a five nine, one hundred and thirty five pounds
person and he was a good six foot two hundred pounds. Anyway,

(48:47):
I got between him. He was being really rude to her,
and he started calling her names, and she was nine
months pregnant. I just wasn't going to have it. Stepped
between them. He grabbed me. We ended up on the floor.
I got kicked out of the store because they thought,
because I was the little guy sitting on top of
the big guy, that I must have just started the
whole thing. I got a call later from the Verizon

(49:08):
manager apologizing for kicking me out and telling me I
was welcome anytime and that they had removed that man.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Wow, did that was the last?

Speaker 9 (49:15):
That was the last one? That I actually was had
a physical confrontation.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Did the police show up in that situation?

Speaker 9 (49:22):
No? No, it all happened within like two minutes. We
were we were on the floor once and then got
back up, and then he reached over and on the
floor again. And I practiced jiu jitsu and I wrestled,
and I have a black belt in taekwondo, and I'm little,
but I'll be on your back before you even know
where I went.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
So I'm going to jump ahead to something because I'm
so fascinated by this note that Gimpi gave me.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
It says you once joined a cult. I'm curious to
what enticed you.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
How did you get okay pulled?

Speaker 9 (49:56):
I want to be very clear that I never believed
in any of it, the cult. So my parents were
part of the meta lady that lived in Tulsa. There's
a cult in North Carolina. It's called Word of Faith Fellowship.
You should all look it up. It's a terrible, terrible place.
People Magazine has done a little a thirty minute article
you can find on Netflix about it during their cult things.

(50:19):
And my ex had a terrible family. My family was
wealthy but religiously crazy. She thought that looked good and
she wanted us to be.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Part of it.

Speaker 9 (50:33):
They basically convinced her that we would be divorced in
another year if we didn't go to the cult and
get help, and they basically she was going to go
without me if I didn't go. So I went to
keep my family together, and we lasted for five years.
She finally realized that it was all a bunch of

(50:55):
bull and in the middle of the Sunday service there
we were being talked about as something that my kids
had done, and I said, you know, none of it matters.
We're going back to Tulsa. We're out of the church,
we're out of the cult, and the place erupted. I
literally physically fought my way out of a church building.

Speaker 13 (51:16):
It was.

Speaker 9 (51:18):
Something you could just it was beyond normal. And we
then spent three days collecting our stuff and having them
try to convince us that we should stay, and then
we packed up and left. And at that point my
family said, don't ever talk to us again. And I
have not spoken to my mom or my two sisters
since two thousand and five, and my mom died yesterday.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I just got work. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 9 (51:44):
Yeah, I am too, but I'm sorry because now there's
not a chance of reconciliation. The emotional the emotional death
happened to years ago.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, I get it that you were hoping at some
point you could mend that sense and now that that
that is sailed. So do you can't If you could
back up a year, do you think you would have
tried harder to men?

Speaker 9 (52:12):
No, No, I can't. I can't use the language that
I want to to express my feelings for that, for
her and the people. No, there's no there's no love
lost at all.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
There's no love.

Speaker 9 (52:23):
I have two sisters who still haven't talked to me,
still haven't even called me to tell me that that,
you know, my mom has passed. One of my cousins
actually called me and told me, wow.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Still, nonetheless, it's it's a loss, and even though you
mentally went through it, it's now it's it's real. It is.

Speaker 9 (52:39):
Yes, it is, it is, and it'll set in. I mean,
I'm sure at some point in the next few days
I'll have a moment of oh damn. But right now
it's just kind of something that happened.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I'm looking at the According to this Word of Faith
Fellowship rules, they have over one hundred and forty five rules,
and it's everything from me, don't listen to the radio,
don't watch movies, don't question authority.

Speaker 9 (53:03):
Yeah. Yeah. And one of the main things they do
is they cut off family. Anytime that there's a cult
member that has outside family, they do all they can
to make sure you cut those ties. Like, for instance,
if I was in the cult and you sent me
a birthday present, I would have to call you. People
would be listening to make sure I did it right

(53:24):
and tell you to never do that again, and tell
you why you were wrong for doing it, and then
effectively killing that relationship that you did have with any
outside family. So they do all they can to keep
everybody from their family and from the truth.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, this whole you don't you can't date anybody unless
you talk to Jane. I'm guessing that's the leader.

Speaker 9 (53:49):
That's the leader.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yes, wow, yes, they must.

Speaker 9 (53:52):
My sister, my sister is actually in one of those
arranged marriage, my youngest sister, actually both of them were,
but my oldest sister's arranged husband died. You know, they're
they're a little older than me.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Yeah, And when they want to say ties, that is
a clear sign not like a big indicator that you
are in a cult and that you should run as
fast as possible.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
What do you think the cult provided that gets them
so many members?

Speaker 9 (54:19):
Well, it is so the communal side of it. If
you could take away the for one, the religious part
and the controlling part, the communal living is actually pretty cool.
Like I mean, I was there. I can fix anything,
so I would fix people's washing machines or their air
conditioners or whatever I needed to do. And everybody had
a little part, and everybody did everything for each other,

(54:42):
and that part of it would be okay, almost like
a hippie commune. But unfortunately that's not what you're into
because of the control and the rules and the everybody
tells on everybody. They live in households of multiple families.
They live in these giant houses with four families living
in it, and everybody tells on everybody else, and that's

(55:03):
what you have to do. That's what you're required to do,
court on anybody that's doing anything wrong.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yeah, So do you feel like walking away from that
was probably one of the best decisions, Yes, best decision.

Speaker 9 (55:18):
That I ever made. I had been trying to get
away for some time, but not by myself. I obviously
could have left at any point by myself. I knew
that eventually my ex would see what was going on,
and she did. And the main thing was she started
getting involved with the church more. She had just been
raising her kids and being part and she started getting

(55:39):
involved in the church and other the younger kids that
are going to college, they have to go in groups.
Nobody goes anywhere by themselves, so she would go as
a chaperone. And once she started getting out and seeing
everything and then seeing the contradictions and that people get
treated differently if they're special or if they're this family
or they're that family, that's when she realized it was wrong.

(55:59):
And that's when we decided to leave. We originally planned
on leaving without saying anything. We were just going to
be quiet for a couple of weeks and gather our
stuff and then just leave one day. Because most people
leave a cult in the middle of the night. I
ended up doing it publicly and loudly, and I'm proud
of that because after that there were several people that

(56:22):
realized that they can leave, and they did, and there
was a mass exodus about a year after I left
of some of the college aged people, and I at
least feel like I had something to do with some
of them. Realizing that you can.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Leave it says here you delivered two of your kids
in your bedroom. Did this happen when you were in
the cult?

Speaker 9 (56:46):
It happened before we were in the cult. As far
as having moved away, we were already involved with them
as a church in a long distance way, getting together
and watching a video of a Sunday morning service or
a Wednesday service. And at that point we were also

(57:06):
homeschooling our children in a group. So officially I guess
we were part of the cult, but we weren't in
North Carolina, where the base of the cult was, and
we all still lived our normal lives here in Tulsa
at that time. But it was connected to people we
met in church.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
What made you decide to deliver them yourself instead of
at a hospital? And did you do any reading or
training before you decided to deliver your children?

Speaker 9 (57:37):
Okay, So on the training part, a couple of things.
I worked for a company for many years that every
three months we would go to the Red Cross and
learn the next class, or we would have the fire
department come and teach us how to put out fires
with Greece and chemicals and different things like that. My
boss was huge on safety, and in that process I

(58:00):
had learned enough to understand it. I am I'm an
adrenaline junkie, I am anything exciting I want to do,
And so there was that part of it, but the
main reason really just came down to we almost didn't
get to the hospital in time for the first two.
My ex was a baby factory. She just spit them

(58:20):
right out. She worked till noon on the day that
she delivered the first one, and we delivered that at
eight o'clock and it took ten minutes. We almost didn't
get to the hospital in time. And then the second
one was quick, but we had a bad experience with
the doctor in the hospital and it was just cold
and everybody seems like they didn't care. And so we'd
had friends that had done it before, and we decided

(58:41):
to go ahead and do that and made that choice,
and it was It was a wonderful, absolutely wonderful event.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Yeah, I hear people that do deliveries at home. It's
an incredibly moving and intimate experience. My concern would be,
you would need a little bit more than CPR training
to the liver a baby.

Speaker 9 (59:01):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean we had the midwife and
it seemed, you know, I put it this way, the
only way I can say it is it's all pretty natural.
It just happens. It's kind of like, yeah, it seems complicated,
but only if their complications arise. Otherwise you squat down
and you poop out a baby and you go on

(59:23):
with your day kind of. I definitely did say that,
Yes I did.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah, that's that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
When when it was all done, was there a moment
you were like I just delivered my kids, not a feeling.

Speaker 9 (59:42):
Yes on the first one. I remember literally after I
after I caught that child and we're standing there, um
medical courts still attached. I remember, it just seemed like
time froze for a second and I just kind of
was just standing there, almost almost outside my body, looking
at the room, and it was just an emotional moment,

(01:00:04):
an absolutely amazing moment. The baby starts crying. It was
like it was like there was dead silence for a
second and then there was crying and wonderful noise. It
was amazing.

Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
I hear people that do those type of births they
say that did you have your favorite catchers met on
when you caught it?

Speaker 9 (01:00:25):
I got big hands. I'm good.

Speaker 8 (01:00:27):
Okay, do you have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
How do you put this? Are you closer with the
two that you delivered as opposed to like the ones
you did not? Do you have a closer relationship with
those two?

Speaker 9 (01:00:38):
I don't think so. I don't think so. Really. I
will say that my third child, which is the first
one I delivered then later in life, was in a
It was hit on a four wheeler and broke the
entire right side of their body. And I was at
the time, I was working from home, and so I

(01:00:59):
took care of that child and you know, everything, picked
it up, everything, and I got closer to that child
during that time. That one has worked for me a
couple of different times and and but but overall I
would say, no, I don't feel and I don't think
they feel any any difference. We all we're all good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yeah, dude, you've had a wild story. I mean, being
in a cult is enough to check the box. But
then you know, all the other things you've gone through
is really fascinating. I sure appreciate you taking the time
to talk with us, Jay, And uh, you know have
a good day and hopefully we can shake hands one day.

Speaker 9 (01:01:39):
I appreciate you guys, and uh Gampy ride safe.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Than you too, all right, man, see you later. It's Jay.
Our listeners are awesome. Take a break and we'll be back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Rush more of the Big Med Morning Show's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Nest Last night with the Emmy's. Nobody really cares, but
there were some interesting things. One of them was Seth
Rogan got his first Emmy ever and he got like
four or for that show called The Studio that is
on Apple TV.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
It's pretty good. He's a studio head and very quirky
and weird like Seth Rogan is running this movie production
studio and la and it's it's pretty good. It's pretty entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
The Pit. One Outstanding Drama Series, which is a medical
show on HBO that is You. Each episode's twenty four
hours in an er in Pittsburgh. Pretty good. Adolescence. One
Outstanding Limited Anthology or Series, which is that show on
Netflix about the little kid who they arrest for murder. Okay,

(01:02:39):
and then that little kid actually won an Emmy as well,
which is pretty cool. The other thing that I wanted
to bring up that was on here was pretty cool.
Was the girl place Sophia.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Falconi in the Penguinka. She won an award too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
And The Penguin is a fantastic show on HBO that
is an interpretation of the life of the penguin in
a different way than we've ever seen it presented.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Right, like the Rise of the Penguin. Yeah, usually we
always see him afterwards, but this is like how we
became the power. And I think that show's done right.
They're not coming back with another season, are they. I'm
under the impression it's over. They should though they could
have kept that show going for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Yeah, I feel I'm a good I'm a big fan
of when shows are like, look, we're doing two seasons
and that's it, because then it gets milked down and
then you're like, okay, we got to see them do
the water ski jump and you're like okay. And then
the other thing was that the host, Nate Bargzett or

(01:03:43):
however I commutilate his name, he hosted. I thought he
did a pretty good job. From the clips that I
saw this morning, they did do something interesting. He set
it up or that was already planned that he would
get one hundred. There would be one hundred thousand dollars
donation to the Boys and Girls Club of Greater Los
Angeles or and for every minute they went over or

(01:04:06):
every second they went over of their speech as winners,
they would deduct one thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Off that total.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Huh okay, And they kept a little tally in the
bottom screen and would show when someone's talking and it
would go down.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I think this is a prudent way to raise money
for charity. I think maybe do it the opposite way
that you will be held if you win to donate, Okay,
for every minute like there's I think there may be
something there. So spoiler, they didn't do it. They went
in the negative actually because people went over so much.

(01:04:42):
And then Nate said, I'll give fifty thousand, and then
CBS or somebody donated another one hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
So that got me thinking, how much money's there? How
much money? How much net worth is in that room?
And you only gave one hundred and fifty thousand, No, kid,
that feels light. Yeah, So I did some investigating. I'll
just say there's at least cut you know, almost a billion,
oh yeah, yeah, if not more more? Yeah, Okay, one

(01:05:12):
to guess. Yeah, lindsay E think we know it's over
a bill yeah, uh.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
Yeah, Well I'll say uh, I'll say about three billion dollars.

Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
In that room.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Nope, I'm gonna jump it up to a trillion.

Speaker 10 (01:05:26):
Whoa.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
We gotta think, man, he's all these actors whatever, and
you put all their net worths together. I think we
could be approaching a trill if not hit it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Keep in mind, a million seconds is just over eleven days.
Well a billion seconds is thirty two years. Dramatic difference.
I think it's always important to point that out people
that just think it's a different more comma, which is correct. Yeah,
but it's dramatically different. About nineteen point six billion things
and they donated one hundred and fifty thousand, that's great. Yeah,

(01:06:02):
it's also California. There's no way that paid for a
lot of stuff. And the amount of money in that
room is just wild how low that is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Yeah, they worked hard for their money. Sure they don't
want to come off of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
It, absolutely, But if everybody there donated one hundred thousand dollars,
which doesn't feel like a giant leap, maybe it is
for some people. I think they would get a pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Good amount of money, you would and they could write
it off because it's a charity, exactly right, Yes, sure,
so what are we what's the what's the deal?

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
And it would look cool. You'd be like that is amazing.
It would right for homeless people or for vets on
the streets.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Then then I think people get excited to watch to
see how much money they're going to raise with their narcissism.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Maybe that's why these actors went over and they're like, well, no,
we need to get this down. Sure, well, when you're
when your bloodsuckers like, yes, what are you gonna do? Yeah,
I just gotta thing. You gotta keep getting more and
more money out of here. But the pit was a
bit big.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Which Linda and I are both giant fans of that
show Adolescence. That's a show I didn't I haven't watched,
but I will look into Traders, which is a reality show,
reality competition show on Peacock h one for best reality
competition over the Amazing Race, Survivor, Top Chef and RuPaul's

(01:07:35):
Drag Race, which your go so what but those are
of all one before.

Speaker 8 (01:07:39):
So I've seen Traders. I've watched one season of it.
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
What's the basis?

Speaker 7 (01:07:46):
So you have a bunch of celebrities from different reality shows,
mostly like maybe someone from The Bachelor or Bachelorette or
different Bravo celebrities that come on this show, and you
have to figure out who is the trader and who
are people that you can trust, and so you have

(01:08:08):
to be someone that's a good liar basically because you
want everyone to think that you're not a trader. And
at the end of it, if you can figure out
who the traders are and get them off of the show,
essentially off.

Speaker 8 (01:08:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Yeah, kind of like The Mole if you remember that show,
or The Snake that was just on. Yeah, kind of
on the same basis. But they're quote unquote celebrities.

Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:08:30):
Yeah, Like they've had someone on there from Big Brother,
They've had someone from vander Pump Rules and things like that.

Speaker 8 (01:08:40):
Shows like that. Okay, yeah, maybe even The Amazing Race.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Yeah yeah, Well apparently it's good enough to win to
win that, which if that means anything to anybody for
you to go check it out right.

Speaker 8 (01:08:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Slow Horses one some which is I'm a big fan
of that show on Apple TV. It is about a
Club of misfit am I five agents who solved crimes
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
It's pretty good because they have to keep all the misfits.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
So if you're a drunk or a cokette or whatever
and you're in the CIA, they can't just let you
out on the street.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Oh you got too many secrets.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
They got to keep you pulled in so you're still employed.
You just do stupid stuff. And these guys can't help
themselves because they got to help people. They get a
tip on a terrace that it's a little far fetched,
but it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
So I would recommend that. All right, we got to
take a break. We'll be back. More of a Big
Man Morning Show is next.

Speaker 8 (01:09:35):
Good morning, Corbin.

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Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Join us in the studio now is Jeff Hensley of
Hensley and Associates. Good morning, Jeff, Hey, good morning. Jeff's
here to answer your questions that have to do with
family law, anything like a name change, or a guardianship
or an adult guardianship, or even a divorce. He can
answer how some of the logistics work in that. In
the news, not Acon is getting divorced after twenty nine

(01:10:28):
years of marriage one day before their thirtieth anniversary. But
who is this Acon? A rapper, pop singer? And so
why I'm bringing that up? Is there citing a reconcilable differences, right,
common no fault essentially right? And there is a push
in some states, and I don't want this to be political,
but a push in some states to end that reason

(01:10:49):
no fault divorces.

Speaker 13 (01:10:50):
Yeah, Oklahoma is one of those states that have kind
of pushed for that. I think, go ahead and ask
your question. I think I know where you're going, but
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
My question is do you think more people would less
people would get divorced if there was no fault?

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:11:04):
In fact, this is okay, so understand this is Jeff's thoughts. Okay,
all right, on this particular issue, I believe that if
they make it harder to get a divorce, all right,
I think we're going to see an increase in domestic violence,
all right. And maybe that's I'm not trying to sound
alarmist or crazy. What I'm trying to get at is

(01:11:26):
is that people need a way out of bad situations.
And when you start adding if you take away no
fault divorce, you take away you know, incompatibility and say
that now you have a burden of proof on all
these different things. Okay, First of all, I think there
would be fewer filings, but I think we would see
because people don't want to have to prove these things, okay,
number one. Number two, I think we'd see an increase

(01:11:47):
in domestic violence simply because you've got people who are
stuck in situations that they can't get out of now
and don't have the money to just walk out and
leave and go somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
I just think it's a bad idea.

Speaker 13 (01:11:58):
Now, it doesn't make the argument amongst some of the
individuals whether and again I'm not I'm not going to
make this political.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Please don't call in and make it political.

Speaker 13 (01:12:07):
This is not about Republican Democrat, Christian non christ, not
any of that. That the the hard numbers and hard
facts behind it is is that some people believe that
it would it's been too easy for people to get divorced. Okay,
that's the idea. That's where these ideas come from. Oh,
well it's too easy since we've had you know, non

(01:12:29):
fault incompatibility divorces for the last fifty years and that's
why we see quote high divorce rates and things like that. Well, again,
I think we would see an increase in other areas
while we may see a decrease in divorces. I again,
you know, again, my personal thought is, and I've talked
to other attorney friends about this, over you know, throughout

(01:12:49):
the years, we would see an increase in our other
areas like domestic violence and you know, theft and all
these other areas that could potentially cause problems because people
don't have a way out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Now.

Speaker 13 (01:13:00):
I'm not trying to say that people should you know,
go out there and get divorced over the littlest thing, okay, marriage,
just maybe the younger generation doesn't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
I don't know, but marriages work.

Speaker 13 (01:13:11):
It's not all lollipops and gum drops and rainbows and unicorns.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Okay, it takes work.

Speaker 13 (01:13:16):
It's not just oh, well, let's live together and see
if we can get along, and oh we can't get along,
so let's get divorced.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
It takes work. I mean those of them has been
married a while. We understand that, we know that.

Speaker 13 (01:13:27):
But at the same time, too, people still need a
way to get out so they can move on with
their lives and leave productive, happy lives. And I just
it worries me if they try and block it. But
you know, again, the legislature doesn't ask us the attorneys
on the ground, they do what they want.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Jeff Finsley's here from Hensley and Associates, and Aaron's on
the phone. He is a question. Go ahead, Aaron your
hom with Jeff Finsley.

Speaker 10 (01:13:49):
Hey, I've got a question. So my son has been
living my ex wife. We've got two kids together. My
son's been living equal time for the last three years,
but she refuses to go to court and get that changed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
You don't need her permission.

Speaker 10 (01:14:15):
He's fourteen, right, my daughter is ten. I've been talking
with DHS trying to get child support lowered because it's
outrageous and I may hardly anything. So what are my
options here? Well, I mean it's to get that yeahy

(01:14:37):
of go back to joint custody.

Speaker 13 (01:14:40):
Well, okay, So first of all, if they've been if
you've been practicing for the last three straight years, that
he's been doing halftime between the houses, that's modifiable. That
the law actually says if you do something for six
months or more that becomes a substantial change and circumstance,
it would warrant the change of the order. So you've
been doing it for three years, all right, Not to mention,

(01:15:01):
the fourteen year old now has a voice and a
choice can say this is what I want to do,
all right, And obviously it's been working because you've been
doing it for three years. So yeah, you need to
file a modification because if he's with you halftime, obviously
there needs to be a reduction in child support because
you're providing for him halftime in your own home. So yeah,
if you'll give your name a number to gimpee, we'll
give you a call and we can talk about how

(01:15:21):
I get that done for you.

Speaker 12 (01:15:24):
I'll do that thank you sir.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
All right, hanging on the line there.

Speaker 13 (01:15:27):
You don't need the other side's permission, okay. One thing
that caught me when he first started was is, well,
she won't agree to but go back to court. So
you don't need the other side's permission in Oklahoma that
we're not one of those states where you have to
have the other side's permission on things.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
If the change there's.

Speaker 13 (01:15:45):
Been a substantial change in circumstance that would warrant a change,
that's enough. You don't need the other side's permission. So
don't feel like you have to have the other side's
permission to file something.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Do you think there's any truth to the thought process
that people get intimidated to not go back to court
because they think they'll lose because they already are paying
a lot child support, or maybe they would get less,
or they've been mentally there's always altered that they won't
get what they want.

Speaker 13 (01:16:12):
There's always a reason as to why somebody would think
that they don't want to do with it in court,
or they're about filing whatever it may be. But that's
why you want to give us a call. I mean,
Corbyn gives our number out several times throughout the segment.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
You know, call us.

Speaker 13 (01:16:27):
We have a free fifteen for you guys, so that
you listeners out there, so you can call and say, hey,
this is what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
What do you think I should do? Or hey, this
is what's going on. This is kind of what I
was thinking. What do you you know? What do you
think I can do?

Speaker 13 (01:16:38):
From a legal side. That's why we're here, guys. We're
here to serve you and to help you and help
you through those difficult times. So please make use to
that free fifteen that we give for our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
And that's why we do this too. For a chance
to ask Jeff some questions eight three three four six, Oh, kmod.
You can text BMMS and whatever your question is to
eight two nine four five, or you can email show
at kmod dot com. This taxtic just came in, said
a friend of mine is still paying child support for
his nineteen and twenty two year old to his kid's mom.
Can he just stop paint since they aged out?

Speaker 13 (01:17:09):
No, And I'm glad this got brought up. And I'm glad,
you know, I'm glad. Certain subjects get brought up every
so often because we always obviously need to hit on them.
There's a misconception, a misunderstanding, or an urban myth that
once a child ages out, that child supports just poof
automatically stops.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
It doesn't. Now do you know somebody that has had
that happen.

Speaker 13 (01:17:33):
Probably why there are some counties that are small error
and have more time to look through those cases to
see while as a kid aged out and this so
will stop the income assignment.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
There are some that do that. I've been doing this
twenty years. I've heard the stories. I've seen them. Okay,
that is the exception to the rule. That is not
the rule.

Speaker 13 (01:17:56):
The rule is if a child is aging out, we
need to file a motion to terminate. If they're the
only child left, or if they're one of several aging out,
or one of two, you know, whatever it may be,
we need to file a motion to modify or motion
to terminate for the kid that is aging out. Otherwise,
I've dealt with these stories for years where people I've

(01:18:17):
had one one time where the kids were twenty seven
and he was still paying child support. And I don't
mean back support. I mean the order was to he
was current on his back. There was zero back support
no interest ODE. He was just continual paying each month
because it was being pulled out of his check automatically
because it never got stopped.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
We can fix this, all right. Now, let's talk about
a flip side of this.

Speaker 13 (01:18:39):
The flip side of this might be that the guys
on his nineteen and twenty year old is paying for
back support that is still owed. So there's no current
support ODE because they've aged out. Buddy's paying on back support.
I don't know, so whoever this is needs to please
give us a call so we can walk through it.
But that's one of the two scenarios. It's either you're
paying on back support and they've aged out, which is

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post possible.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
All right.

Speaker 13 (01:19:00):
I've seen that happen obviously, or I've had the flip
side where they're still paying when they shouldn't be, when
there's no back support OWDE, no interest OED and they're
just continually paying each month because why well, just being
taken out of my check.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Don't fall for that.

Speaker 13 (01:19:14):
Guys don't fall and ladies don't. When I say guys,
I'm using the general term. Okay, people don't fall for that,
all right. Don't have money being sucked out of your
account that you could be using for other things. If
in fact you don't owe any back support, no back
interest or anything, and your child truly is aged out,
please give us a call so we can get that
terminated and stomp for you so you're not overpaying. Because

(01:19:38):
once you've overpaid, trying to get the money back it's
next to impossible. I don't care what anybody says. I've
done this for twenty years. It's it's next to impossible
to try to get back. And it's not as simple
is going and knocking on the door saying well, I
overpaid for two years, you owe me. It doesn't work
that way, So please guess a call, be happy to
help you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
I think the one that you've brought up before when
it comes to child's and still paying, is how many
times it can be associated with sooner Care and you're
unaware that that money's going to Sooner Care because you
weren't involved in the beginning. But they're still they still utilized.

Speaker 13 (01:20:12):
It, right, and there may be that, I mean, that
may be part of a back amount that's owed. Again, guys, gals,
in the last two years alone, I've seen DHS crack
down hard on sooner care. And what I mean by
that is is that making sure that people are paying
for Okay, one of the things we had problems we
had in the past was we being the state. Is

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is that you had people who were receiving sooner care
and they were being paid child support directly by the
other side, and that wasn't going through the state. There
was an income assignment, but there's a there's a sooner
care cost, or more specifically, it's referred to as a
cash medical cost on there, and that cash medical wasn't
being taken out of the money given to the person

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who the money is due to and being sent to
the state.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
They're cracking down on all that stuff, guys.

Speaker 13 (01:20:59):
So and it's because we as a state are broke.
So what you know, if you've got questions, if you
have these problems, please give us a call. We'd love
to help you out doing that and getting it fixed
and taking care of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
A couple of ways to get your question in for Jeff.
You can call it eight three three four six oh kmod.
You can email show at kmod dot com, or you
can text bmms and whatever that is to eight two
nine four five like this text that kind of curtails
on what we just talked about. Some turns eighteen in February,
graduates in May, but wants to live with me upon
turning eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
What should I do regarding child support?

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Well, again, we need to modify it.

Speaker 13 (01:21:38):
I mean, if the child is coming to live with
you but is still enrolled actively enrolled in high school
and doesn't graduate to me, so turning eighteen in February
it sounded like and won't graduate for another three months, right,
we still need to file that modification so that child
support is either assuming there's only one kid, so that

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child support is ended or reverse for the other side,
owes you for the last three months. Again, there's all
sorts of scenarios tied to that, do you go back
support and all that other stuff, But there's ways to
change that so you're not paying on somebody who's physically
living in your house. And then, of course if for
some reason that doesn't change, we need to make sure
that it's changed as of May, so you're not continuing

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you to pay moving forward. So this definitely begs a modification.
Whoever this is, please give us a call, you know,
either me or my associate Don We'll be able to
answer you and find out what you need and how
we can help.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Jeff Fenzley's in the studio eight three three four six
Oh kmo D can email show at kmod dot com
or text bmms and whatever your question is about family
law to eight two nine four five. This has been
married four years and wanting to divorce.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
How do I start?

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
And what action should I take to protect my property
and values that I came into the marriage with.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Well, all right, so first of all, give us a call.

Speaker 13 (01:22:57):
Let's talk about your situation specifically and find out you know,
what you have, what you don't have?

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Do you have kids?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Do you not?

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Do you have four to one k's do you not?
Do you on your I mean, there's all sorts of
questions to ask.

Speaker 13 (01:23:09):
Now, with only four years of marriage, I doubt that
they've racked up a ton of marital assets and debts. Okay,
I could be wrong, you know, but typically after three
or four years they don't. But there's obviously something that
needs to be dealt with and divided. Now, whatever you've
walked into the marriage with, all right, if it's pre marital,
it's still yours, all right. So if you walk in

(01:23:30):
with you know, a guitar that was yours prior to marriage,
it's still yours. I mean those kind of things, you know,
it's when you start commingling things. So let's say, for example,
you walked in with a home and the person you
married is now living in that home, all right, for
the last four years. This is where it gets a
little tricky for people get a little off on it.

(01:23:51):
And that's why I want to take a minute to
explain it. Any equity that is in the house as
of the date of marriage would be yours, and everything
prior to that is all yours. So let's say you've
built one hundred thousand dollars in equity prior to the
person moving in and you're getting married, and then let's
say over the last four years, it's increased in equity
by fifty thousand, all right, So the individual, the spouse

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would only be entitled to half of that new equity,
not the old equity, if you will, all right, So
will they get a little bit absolutely begin You know,
I'm using big numbers just for easy math, for some
people can grab the concept easier than little numbers. But
the point being is that any from the data marriage
to the data separation or the data of divorce filing
of the divorce. Excuse me, anything that you've done in

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there is liable to be split pursuant to law. So
it's called equitable division of the assets and debts, which
typically means fifty to fifty. But so understand, I just
want people to understand that's the case. But whoever is
this please you know we want to walk you through
your individual things. Yes, Lindsey looked like okay, okay, I
had a question or something. So anyway, please give us
a call.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
We'd love to help you with that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Eight three three four six kmo. D uh oh. And
Amanda is on, she's got a question. Go ahead, Amanda,
you're on with Jeff Hensley of Hensley and Associates.

Speaker 11 (01:25:09):
Yes, my daughter is presently going she's got court Tuesday,
but the dad is not wanted anything to do with it,
the pregnancy or anything. I mean, it was pretty much
like a one night span and many wants to all

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of a sudden be a part of her life. Well,
she's a homemaker, a single fit home mom homemaker, and
she's got no job and is currently getting assistants from
me to help pay her rent. She lives in her
own apartment in government housing, and he has an attorney,

(01:25:52):
but she is having a hard time acquiring one. We
tried getting a quarter point of attorney, but they told
her that it would you're no good on that case, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Would quarter appointed attorneys?

Speaker 13 (01:26:05):
Just for the record, quarter point attreees are not given
in anything other than contempt citations. Otherwise you're not entitled
to an attorney, like in a criminal case. The reason
we do it on contempt is because it's a quasi
criminal proceeding. So you are at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
But what was your question? I didn't mean interrupt. I'm sorry.
Go ahead, that's.

Speaker 11 (01:26:22):
Okay, that's okay. And my question is how how can
where is there some way she can have changed some
legal services somewhere because we've not been able to get
hold of legal aid and the number that's on Google
for them does not it's not the number for them.

(01:26:42):
And she she needs tell she needs a lawyer, and
she has no way of paying for one. Right now, Well, there.

Speaker 13 (01:26:50):
Are different okay, well, well, hold on, there are different
services throughout northeastern Oklahoma that do do certain things for
free or reduced amounts.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
If you want to give your nwe number to Gimpie.

Speaker 13 (01:27:01):
I will have my office call you and give a
list of those of those places you can give a call.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
But you know, again, she's not entitled by law to
an attorney.

Speaker 13 (01:27:10):
If you can find somebody that is doing it pro bono,
there are some groups that do that, but they have
very specific reasons or areas wanting.

Speaker 11 (01:27:17):
He's wanting. He's wanting her to split his to split
her rights with with the with the baby, and she's
not wanting to do that. Why she doesn't want to
split her rights?

Speaker 13 (01:27:30):
It's not splitting rights. It's not the right terminology. You're
talking about joint custody correct where they remember custody in
Oklahoma only goes to legal decision making on major life
altering things. It has nothing to do with the amount
of time. It has nothing to do with anything other
than making life changing decisions like major surgeries and things

(01:27:50):
like that. So is there a reason she doesn't want
to have to I'm not advocating, I'm just curious as
to what the reason is.

Speaker 11 (01:28:02):
I told her she was going to have to agree
to something other than just one night every other weekend
because he is her father and he is going to
want more time with her. I told her she needed
to agree to every every weekend Friday through Sunday until
she starts schooling. And then you guys can reassess it
that she he will not answer her back when it
comes to that, and well if.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
He's represented, if he's represented, she needs to be calling his.

Speaker 9 (01:28:27):
Attorney, not him, right right, Okay, So.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Again, if you give your name.

Speaker 13 (01:28:35):
Your number to gimpee, we can call and give you
a list of resources of places that she can give
a call and see if they're available to do those things.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Thank you so much, Amanda. Hang on the line so
he can get you.

Speaker 13 (01:28:45):
There's this misunderstanding of people thinking that they're entitled to
an attorney, and it all pops up from criminal cases. Now,
you're entitled to an attorney in a criminal case. That's
why we have the Public Defender's Office, Okay, where we
have people that are if you're not in a big
county like ok mc County or Tulsa County, they have
attorneys that will represent you those sort of things you're
entitled to in criminal cases, but not in family law cases.

(01:29:06):
You're not entitled to an attorney in any way, shape
or form. Only in a family law case. The only
time that applies is when there's a contempt citation filed
against you, and that's because there's a potential of jail
time involved in that. So you are entitled to an
attorney if you meet the proper financial If you're a pauper,
you fell out pauper's affidavit and they find that financially

(01:29:26):
you fall under that rubric. But you know, again there's
this misconception of being entitled to one and definitely not
divorce cases.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
And is it fair to assume that if she showed
up without an attorney and he had an attorney, she
will get steamrolled and not get anything she wants.

Speaker 13 (01:29:43):
That's a possibility. I mean, it all boils down to
who the attorney is. I mean when I deal with
pro say individuals, I try to treat them with their
same respect that I would with any other attorney. But
they have to understand too, and the court makes them
understand that they are required to have the same amount
of knowledge to represent themselves and in a practicing attorney would.

(01:30:04):
So if you're going to be pro se, that means
you've got to do everything a license practice you know,
well known or not well known but a well studied
attorney would have to do for court.

Speaker 7 (01:30:16):
Is it possible that what her daughter is thinking that, Okay,
I'm pregnant with this man's child, but because we're not
married and she had said that they had a one
night stand, she thinks under the state of Oklahoma, he
has no rights to this baby because we aren't married.

Speaker 13 (01:30:32):
That may be it, I mean, but that's why they
file atternity cases. And I was gonna ask I should
have asked her about the pregnancy thing, simply because we
don't go filing paternity cases until the babies are born.
And the reason being is because God forbid, should there
something happen to the child, the court wants to actually
deal with a living, breathing child, not with one that
you know. And I'm not trying to be darker or anything,

(01:30:53):
but that's how the court looks at it. So it
sounds like this child may have just been born. Obviously
there's concerns that go with that. But at the same
time time to under the law if he asserts his
rights and says I want to be dad and be
involved in by law, unless he's some sort of you know,
fella or child molester something murder that's just that's going
to happen, whether she likes it or not.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Let's get to this last one, right, James is on James,
what's your question for Jeff Finsley.

Speaker 12 (01:31:18):
Uh, yeah, I've got to I'm going to tune your
own special needs sons. Mother and I are nothing together,
were pathily divorced. We have co guardianship of him, but
we were presented in this scenario where he could possibly
need power of attorney. Is there a difference?

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
How old is the kid?

Speaker 12 (01:31:37):
He's twenty.

Speaker 13 (01:31:38):
Okay, you said co guardianship, and I thought I heard
something different.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
That's what I was asking.

Speaker 13 (01:31:43):
If you've got guardianship, you guys get to make those
legal decisions for him. You don't need a power of attorney.
Who's telling you need a power of attorney?

Speaker 12 (01:31:52):
I think it was some misinformed pharmacists, But I just
I like to cover basis.

Speaker 13 (01:31:57):
As guardians what you would need to do is honestly
just take your order appointing guardian up to the pharmacy
and say here, I'm the guardian of my son. Okay,
I don't need a power of attorney. Because here's the thing.
When we have a guardianship, when someone's under a guardianship
when they're older, when they're over the age of eighteen,
they don't have the legal capacity typically or the mental

(01:32:19):
capacity or whatever to sign off on a power of attorney.
So whoever the pharmacist was, was no offense to the pharmacist.
If they're listening, but you were wrong, absolutely wrong. You're
the guardians. You don't need a power of POA. Go
get what you need and if you have a problem
with that pharmacist, please call me.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
I'd love to help.

Speaker 12 (01:32:38):
Okay, thank you very much, Jeff, You guys are awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Thanks buddy, see you later. Listen if you need help
with any of these scenarios we've talked about, or maybe
some we didn't, Jeff and the folks a Heinsley Associates
can help out free fifteen minute consultation when you call
them at nine one eight three nine eight five six
nine three nine eight five six nine two for Hinsley
Associates minch kimod you'll get that free console pation. And

(01:33:00):
we got a text from somebody asking about seeking restitution
in a business situation. So if you find yourself in
another area's a lot you guys can help with something
like that.

Speaker 13 (01:33:08):
Too, absolutely so through our PUHUSCA office. And don't worry
about the location. That's just where the office is. We
do everything all over the state of Oklahoma. Give Sam
Allison a call up there. He's the one that runs
our office up there. It's the Shoemake Law Firm. Yes
it is a different name, but it is our firm.
We just left it because it's been there since the
nineteen seventies. We get Sam a call up there if
you've got anything in addition to family law, and you know,

(01:33:29):
such as restitution for businesses, or if you've got a
contract issue oil and gas, if you've got a criminal
We do a lot of criminal work up there for people,
So something as mundane as a parking ticket as all
the way up to murder and everything in between.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Please give Sam mc call.

Speaker 13 (01:33:43):
We'd love to help you out with any of those
issues and anything else in addition to family law.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Sam can answer for you.

Speaker 13 (01:33:49):
If you don't remember the name of the firm up there,
just give us a call in Tulsa here at Hinsley
and Associates and we will hook you up with Sam
up there to get you taken care of.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Night five six nine two for associates. Jeff, thanks for
coming by. Thanks, we'll be back.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
This is a fantastic story about a guy rubbed a
bank and happened in California. He owned a apparently famous
restaurant and he robbed three banks in one day last week.
The man is sixty two and on September tenth, he
hit three different banks, passing handwritten notes to the tellers

(01:34:24):
demanding money and upon a so there's some weird things
that are in this story. Upon arrival, one of the
tellers told police that a suspect handed her a note
demanding cash and I ain't going to die over this
handed him the cash. Wow, makes sense, right, I would
absolutely do the same thing. The suspect then fled and

(01:34:47):
an investigation obviously was launched. And here's the most interesting thing.
Authorities stated that members of the police department's Ambassador's program huh,
helped identify this guy the chef, as the robber.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
So I didn't know what this was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Is this like junior police officers or something like that. No,
this actually makes a lot of sense. Retired police officers who.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Help in the community.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Oh and like especially in touristy areas, recognized him and
so it's almost like a goodwill from the police that
they're out and can be seen stuff like that, right,
And so they were like, yeah, we know him. So
they were investigating him and got caught via these ambassadors.

(01:35:32):
Then they looked at footage of two other banks that
happened that day and it was like this is the
same guy.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Right, So they put together a plan and they got
him without incident. But this isn't the first time he's
robbed a bank. Apparently he did it in twenty sixteen,
and he did it in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Wow. I just never got caught those other two times.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
It's unclear of what happened, but he was accused of it,
and I guess like they couldn't prove it or whatever.
But he says I thought it was a good plan,
but it was not. Desperation will make you do bad things.
He apparently used a bb gun and he wrote, my
action wasn't aggressive. It was a fake gun. I don't

(01:36:19):
even know how to load a real gun. I don't
know if we need to do this public service announcement
along with don't put a toaster a pugged and toaster
into your bathtub. If you use anything and act like
it's a gun. You can get in trouble as if
it's a gun.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Yeah, even the old banana in the pocket. Yeah, you
do your finger, use your finger gun right that they're
gonna get you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
And so he's like it wasn't aggressive and he's like,
I'm real sorry, and he wanted to find he was
behind in some payments and wanted to pay.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
So that got me thinking, you rob a bank, how
long are you hanging out? I can tell you for sure,
I'm not hitting two other banks.

Speaker 8 (01:37:02):
I'm out instantly.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Okay, how long do we hang out? Like inside the bank?

Speaker 13 (01:37:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
No, like you've got your money, you've exited the bank.
How long are you hanging out? Because my first thought was, man,
I'd get on a plane, but that's not a good idea.
If they figure out it's you, and they AI can
move pretty fast on identifying things, and they go through footage.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
I don't even don't even know if they have this.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
But if they go through footage and see you bordered
a plane to let's just say la, you are gonna
be they'll be waiting for you when they when you land. Yeah,
too much time and you're not gonna waste time on
a fifty minute flight to Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Because the other part is you got to get a car.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
And when you get a car, they're gonna they're gonna
watch you walk to the car and they're gonna get
a license plate. So you gotta have a ditch. You
gotta be changing. Like, the amount of planning you have
to put into place is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
So what do you do? How do you get away?
Uber that's linked to a credit card, so there's a
paper trail there, Yeah, bicycle, GIMPI phone a friend, have
them pick you up. Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:38:06):
Oh yo?

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
No, Hey, hey man, will you come pick me up
at the like right now at the corner of right
Uh yeah, yeah, I'll be there in fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Man, hey, got I didn't see you. You guy was
hiding in the bushes. Why I just like it there?
Why I just robbed a bank? Get out of my car. Well,
you don't tell them why the bushes? Yeah, you just
tell them, Hey, car broke down. I need you to
come pick me up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
If I pick you up and you've been hiding in
the bushes and I'm like, why did you hide the bush?

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
And you go, I ain't telling you. You also getting
out of the car.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
I had to right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
No, also get out of get out of my car. Well,
I could have crapped in your car. Would you rather
do that?

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
But they don't have toilet paper, so get out.

Speaker 8 (01:38:49):
I I just felt sick. I threw up in the bush.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
Yeah, you do look pale and sweaty, right, exactly because
you robbed a bank.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Yeah. You can't ride a bicycle out of town, that's
for sure.

Speaker 8 (01:39:02):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
I mean I guess you could, but be a slow
escape and they'd be looking for you, right, So you
would have to like you'd have to start carjacking people
at the intersection.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
I don't think that's a good idea that brings attention. Yeah,
you'd have to have multiple vehicle stags.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Already set up. Yeah, yeah, like one couple of blocks away,
another one a couple of miles away, another one on
the outskirts of town.

Speaker 8 (01:39:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
I think as long as you get to the one
on the outskirts of town, I think you might be
all right after that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
And you can't do it too far ahead because popo,
if they see a car on the side of the road,
they may mark it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Right, it was just up an orange sticker that really
makes you stick out. Well, now they've documented your car, Yeah,
I don't you have to be well planned. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
And the idea that oh desperation, Sure, I get it,
but you literally went, I don't know anything about.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
A gun right now, I'm gonna rob a bank. Yeah,
that literally was your best plan. That was like, well,
what are you gonna do? And did they say how
much he got out from these robberies? It doesn't, but
some other reports said like eighteen grand. See to me,
I don't think it's worth it, but I guess desperation
you'll take whatever you can. But if I'm robbing a

(01:40:18):
bank and I'm looking at some major time, then I'm
I'm trying to get at least a hunter k or something.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
But the problem is is that the amount of people
that go in and use banks is lower than it's
ever been, so they don't keep a ton of cash
in the drawers.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
So then you gotta what go to the safe? Well? Yeah, yeah,
how to get the manager? You gotta hold him a gunpoint.
They may be pistol whip a few times, yeah, and
then when he doesn't cooperate, you shoot him.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Grab the assist man's idea either yeah, and then what
are you gonna do? Wait, wait till they load the ATM.
You're like, get out of here, right, what are you
gonna do? Push the guy over?

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
We get because we're in the building of a bank
and sometimes I'll walk out when the armed guards are
taking money to or from and I'm always like, you
get a giant berth man, Like, I'm not trying to
be close to you, right, I don't need you getting
happy trigger Nope, nope, because I'm walking too close, not
paying attention, and you think I'm gonna take your dolly

(01:41:22):
right here?

Speaker 9 (01:41:23):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
It's a Monday. They already upset anyway because they got work. Yeah,
all right, we take a break. We'll be back. The
Big Man Morning Show returns next