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September 22, 2025 103 mins
Welcome Back From The Weekend!!! We Talk About The Best & Worst Parts, There's A Video Of A Woman Being Pulled Off A Balcony By A Shark, Stealing Tarantulas From A Pet Store, When Your Rage Baiting Video Content Backfire On You, We Narrowly Missed A Skkyscraper Sized Asteroid, Spoke To An Awesome Listener, Jeff Hensley Stops By, & TPing Has Been Banned In An Iowa Town!!!
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There are so many crazy things you see online, And
I came across this story online yesterday, and I'm not
sure how much of it is true. Now I'm gonna
send you a links so you can see the story
for yourself here in a second, but I want to
explain what happened. So apparently this couple was vacationing near

(04:37):
the ocean, and after a day of hanging out, they
decided to go to bed. Everything seems normal at this point, right,
But apparently the mail in the story could not sleep
and he decided to go fishing on because apparently he

(04:58):
could fish from the balcony of this house there staying
at That's cool, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (05:03):
Something my husband would want to do, oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
And so he's doing that, apparently does it for a
few hours, but then he needs he gets stomach cramps
and he's got a line in, and why he couldn't
reel it in, I don't know. But he decides to
tie the fishing line around his girlfriend's ankle so he

(05:28):
could go to the bathroom. And then while he's apparently
going to the bathroom, seeing the videos, you can see it,
she a shark takes whatever's on the hook and pulls
her overboard I'm sorry, pulls her over the balcony into

(05:50):
the water. So there's a couple of things in this
story that immediately I was like, huh, the video instantly
gives it credit, makes you believe it's real instantly, right now,
I don't know how far he could cast, But if
he's in the water, there's no way the house is

(06:12):
fully in the water. Now, maybe if he's in the
outer banks, maybe the inland party a waterway maybe, but
I don't know if he could cast far enough to
make a difference. Right, right, right, Because you're on a balcony.
There's walls there, you know that prevent you from like

(06:35):
really going all the way and the roof. Right, So
if he's using a sea fishing pole, which is usually
pretty long, huh, you're right. And even if he if
he cast it sideways, not over him, but sideways maybe,
but still the walls behind you and the sliding glass
door whatever to get into this place, I would still

(06:58):
slow you down a little bit thing anyway. I mean,
even if the deck is in the water, it isn't
gonna be a massive deck, right so anyway, So and
then so that's there's that part. To me. I'm like, hah,
I get, you can't sleep. I get, but fishing for
three hours and in three hours time you get tummy troubles.

(07:21):
Whatever you ate would have already been processed through your body.
So there's a little bit of that. And then this
is the final part. What made you think tying it
to a human being was better than tying it to
the deck right right? Well, because you would feel the

(07:44):
human being would feel the tug when the when when
the fish hits right, and then you know, hey, you
gotta buy sure, you know, the balcony would not do
that except she's asleep right well, I mean she got
woke up. Yeah, I would be like, what's what do
you what? What's tugging me? So there's and then how

(08:09):
did he tie it around her? Because of the fishing pole,
he wasn't handrailing.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Right, what is she to do with a line tied
to It's not like she can just pull it.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
In, right, Where's the fishing pole? Is the question if
it's And then the other part is if a shark
did grab it, because there was something on the hook,
and the shark did grab it and pulled her, like
the video implies, the fishing line would I would imagine
start cutting into her skin pretty fast? Right, yeah, I would.

(08:46):
I would think, I don't know how tight he had it.
But so to me, there's a and I can't find
what I can find this story in this video on
TikTok a lot. Yeah, but I cannot find any validity
of a credible quote unquote source online besides it being

(09:06):
on a social media site with a video and some commentary.
One place it says it happened in Florida. Another one
says it happened in North Carolina. It says it happened
in August of this year. That's a pretty alarming story. Yeah,
she apparently survived. So you say that he tied this
around her ankle. The story says he tied it around

(09:29):
And here's another part. I'm not sure how it's making
her walk backwards. That's kind of what I'm sitting here
just watching it back and forth, just the moment that
she's pulled off of the balcony, And you would think
if it's tied around the ankle, like the story says
that her leg her legs are kind of in front
of her as she's going backwards, right, if this massive

(09:51):
shark was pulling her, it would pull her leg back, right, Yeah,
I would think she would be there's no fight happening, right,
there's no like she's holding on to any It doesn't
it doesn't appear so. And furthermore, like it would drag
her off of the balcony, and at least in my listen,

(10:12):
I'm no physicist. I don't know how this works out right, Yeah,
you stayed at a holiday. Yeah, it is true statement.
You would think that it would drag her off feet first,
exactly feet first, but she's going off this balcony ass
first and pulls her straight straight over the rail. Yeah. Yeah,
I just there's too much for me to be like,

(10:33):
there's no way this is real. And then this is
the final piece. There's somebody that you can see in
the video, there's someone in bed with her.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Oh yeah, that pulls the blankets so that so did
his tom tum hurt.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
And then he would just like, oh bebe my tum
tum hurts, and then forgot. He tied this to her
ink I'm calling Shenanigans man. Yeah, it's a wild story. Yeah,
it's a wild story. And there are stories of shark
pulling people into the water, yeah, in an odd way,
but they all involved some sort of the person already

(11:06):
in the water in some capacity, and sharks are strong.
But I can't imagine a shark could do this. I
don't know. You hear shark, you instantly think jows. Not
all sharks look like jows, no, right, right. A lot

(11:27):
of tiger sharks are smaller compared to jows, right, And
I don't know if they have that same power that
jaws has.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
When we were in Saint Croix, when Kevin and I
were just dating, we were on vacation there and he
did some shoreline fishing and he had a what he thought,
I mean, was a pretty decent He thought, we're gonna
have I'm gonna cook us some fish tonight. I've got
a good fish on the line. And he thought maybe

(11:57):
it was a yellowtail or something delicious, and he's fighting it,
fighting it, fighting it, and all of a sudden he
did see a shark tail or a fin excuse me,
come up and scoop up his his fish and his line. Sure,
and got it. But it was no jaws, you know,

(12:18):
it could have been any type of shark. But it
took it. It took his fish, and he was pissed,
bummed out. But he never in any way felt like
he was in any danger. It was probably like thirty
feet away from him out in front, and he saw
just take it.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, sharkshur in the water, I get that exactly. I
also think that if the shark was this powerful to
pull her over, I don't can't imagine he would overcompensate
on the test of the line. No, you know what
I mean. If he's just fishing for yellowtail, right, I
would imagine a shark would break it. Yeah, if it's

(12:56):
got this much power. I've never been seafishing, so I
have no idea, but I would I would think he's
not having no stronger test line than he would need to, right, exactly.
It's a wild video. I'll try and repurpose it if
I can figure out how to do that, because apparently

(13:18):
we need social numbers.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
Well, when her leg stops, yeah, I'm calling fake on it.
When her leg stops right before the railing and then
it almost looks like she's jumping back. When she first
comes out of the room, it does look like her
leg is being pulled right, and then it stops, and
it's it's not so much she's being jerked away by

(13:42):
a shark's she jumps backwards.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, and I mean we've been to golf Gimpi's been
down in that area. We've all been near. How many
houses do you see with decks in the water in
the water. Not very many, no, minimal Because the sea
is damning. It does a lot of damage to property.
The saltwater's horrible and just the erosion of the land

(14:06):
underneath it. That's why they have them offset high tide,
low tide. Now, it's possible could have been close, but again,
I can't imagine it was splashing onto the pillars like
you see like lighthouses and stuff, I mean land. Yeah,
but the ways come crashing up on these you know,
white lighthouses or whatever.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
You know, it's not like yeah, and they're starting there's
rocks and big boulders down below them. To keep them
from erosion.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yes, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
So she would have hit her head done something, and
they're saying that she survived it.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
It looks completely and to me, this is a wild
enough story that happened in August. There's no local news
story about it, right, if she survived, wouldn't that be
a crazy story? Yeah? Just in general, there should be
some kind of story about it, like live news story.
We read stories about, you know, people calling the cops
because they didn't get catch up packets exactly. I would

(15:05):
think there's a news story about this. But it is
a wild video to see. And the depths of free
time you all have, I almost feel like this. I
don't want to hear you don't have time to work out.
I don't want to hear you don't have time to
spend you go to your kids game. I don't want
to hear you don't have time to work on your schooling.

(15:25):
Because the amount of content that is out there on
social media that people put together that takes time, right
is wild to me. Hey, nobody got time Forday, apparently
they do. Apparently they do. Y'all just messing around unless
it's AI created and if it is a I created. Well,
then that's a goddamn good video. Yeah, that's not it. It

(15:47):
does it? And why is that camera that's the only
if this house has cameras, that's the only camera angle, right,
I find that hard to believe. True, I was the
camera set up. I'm thinking, there's a rope tied around
this woman's waist, and that rope is attached to a
boat in the water. So I mean, if it is

(16:08):
put together, it's not a shark that did it, because
you could you don't ever see the shark. It's off camera, correct, right,
And then there's just a story of that makes it
even better. So I could I could see somebody saying, hey,
we're gonna make some videos. Well, we're gonna now hear

(16:29):
me out. Sure, We're gonna go ahead and tie a
rope around your waist, darling, and then we're gonna tie
that rope to a boat and we're just gonna pull
you over the balcony end into the water. The water's
right there. You're not gonna hurt yourself. And then zinc
And that would explain a whole lot. That would explain
why she is pulled backwards with her ass in the

(16:51):
air and goes over the balcony that way as opposed
to feet first from I think you're coming up with
a great theory. The rope would be more visual. Maybe
you have to be a stronger rope. Maybe so black rope.
And I say that because if you look at her
her waist, like above her shorts or whatever kind of
looks like she's wearing a belt, you know something's right

(17:13):
there that seems a miss to me. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, nighttime,
black rope boats off off camera. Can't see anything we
don't have I'm not listening to the audio, so I
don't know if there's now you can't hear anything. You
hear her scream? Okay, yeah, but so okay, we all agree,

(17:34):
But now I want to know what happened? Right? What
is the story? What kind of a whole friend says, listen,
we're gonna tie a rope around you and then we're
gonna have the boat take off and yank you out
of a house. Right right. There's some interviews coming out
right now with Johnny Knoxville, and they're the guy that
owns Vice. If you know who that guy is. He
they're apparently really good friends and he's interviewing Johnny Knoxville

(17:56):
like a one on one and Johnny's saring a lot
of stuff and it's super fast cause Johnny Knoxville talks
about the toll it's taken on his body and how
ridiculous some of the things were, and you know, hindsight's
twenty twenty. He's like that we made it. We did
a lot of ridiculously. You can see the authenticity. And
I don't think he's promoting a book. I don't think

(18:17):
he's promoting a movie. It sounds like he's just doing
an interview. Sure, and he's like it's it's some of
the craziest stuff. So there's no way this is like
a jackass thing. No, I think it's AI. I really do.
It could be. You never know. You know it's not AI.
A pair of Mega Ride passes because we're gonna give
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little bit. News quickies when we come back. More of

(18:40):
the Big Mad Morning Show is nest It's new news quikies.
These are stories you may have missed in the news,
but we cover them here. It's time for newsquakies. World news,
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the Here's Corbyn Gimbiam Lindsay with what's going on news
quakies from The Big Mad Morning Show. In ninety seven, five.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
Woman busted stealing tarantula's from pet store. Twenty two year
old Resia Johnson of Mobile, Alabama is in jail following
her arrest on a charge of organized retail theft in
the case of two stolen tarantulas. So She's accused of
removing to red rump tarantulas from their habitat at a

(19:24):
local pet store, leaving the store without paying for them.
The alleged theft took place at around four point thirty
last Saturday at a B and B pet stop. Officers
were able to find and detain Johnson the following Wednesday
around three point thirty in the afternoon. The pet store
owners said that both tarantulas were recovered and they were

(19:45):
both okay.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Good. Yeah, I mean I don't mind tarantula's, but of
the animals I'm worried about saving. It's not on the radar.
We're stealing for that fact. Mean why some people love
them though, like for pets. I guess ah, they're good.
Like we've done it before. Yeah, I brought one up

(20:09):
here and have it crawling. Yeah, I'm all right with that,
having one as a pet, I don't. I'm all right.
I don't need it getting out, you know, and then
crawling in my bed and bite me on the balls
while I'm trying to sleep. I'm good on all that.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Growing up, our neighbor had one and it got it
got out, and his mom decided, I'm not staying in
the house until you find it because it just freaked
her out. And they finally after about three days, they said, mom,
you can come home now. We found it. And they

(20:42):
hadn't found it.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
And it's like a good family dynamic they have here.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
Right right right nice. And she did come home and
she said, okay, well where is it? And they said, well,
we just took it. We got it out of the
house completely, just for you, Like we took the the
it's it's container whatever to a friend's house, so now
he has it. We really completely. No, it was in
her closet the entire time, Like she went to get

(21:09):
ready for work the next day, found it, screamed it
was awful. They weren't allowed pets anymore.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Why would you if you're that terrified of them. Why
would you ever allowed as a pet in your home?

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Because well she had all sons and they so what
promised to take good care, what accident ex ever.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
You want to make your kids are happy and whatever
they want an actual not real parent and telling them no.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
No, would you rather, like you said, finding them? Fine?
But that or a cat? Stolen cat?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Like as a pet?

Speaker 6 (21:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh transl all day.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Cats are the absolute worst. They are the absolute worst.
Did you say a stolen cat?

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Lindsay, well, when he said finding them if?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, when he said why would you say stole?

Speaker 6 (22:00):
In the beginning, you were like, eh, I'm glad that
they were okay. You said you know that you were
glad that they were okay. Not the least you were
worried about. There are other animals that you would care
more for.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
It need to be saved, that need to be saved.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
Yeah, mad cats because you don't like cats.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
No, cats are the worst. Cats are the worst. Yeah,
but they're the worst animal to keep as a pet.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
They have complete they're really not They keep mice out
of your home.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Huh yeah, so to tarantulas, so to dogs. Here's what
I don't understand about people that own cats. Do you
own a cat that doesn't knock glasses over or jumps
up on refrigerators and knocks things over, or jumps on
your head in the middle of the night. It has
to go to the bathroom indoors. I'm not even hit.
That's like the number one reason.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
Yeah, it does go to the bathroom indoors. It's true.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Oh my cat doesn't, you know, sit on my head
while I'm sleeping or whatever. And sometimes it does knock
glasses off. But it did knock off and abaka off
my counter. Last week, I was making dinner, right and
I'm like, put the avocada here, go outside because I'm
waiting for stuff to finish up. And I smoke and
I come back, I'm like, where'd my avocado go? Searching
all over this goddamn house for an avocado because I

(23:14):
don't want it rotting under the TV or something like
that at an hour and I get right right, and
I guess the cat knocked it off the counter. One
of the danes came by and ate it. And the
only reason I say that is because I found the pit.
Oh thank god, the pit in their cage. I guess

(23:36):
it had popped out and I was like, oh, well,
oh like it passed it popped out there. Yeah, that's
the whole pit. The whole pit. Sure, because I look
in there, I was like, is that a tird? That
can't be a turd? And I get in there with
you know, the tissue, and I go pick it up.
I'm like, I mean it kind of was, but it

(23:57):
was the whole last pit. And I was like, well,
I explain to my Ocata went, well they take They're
just like, We'll sit there and all of a sudden
they jump and crow. Christopher then't and they always do
it in the least like ideal time, right most inconvenient ever, Triangela,
I can just put in a box and leave it there.
It'll do nothing and probably die because iront feeding. In

(24:21):
rage baiters video scheme backfires. This comes out of Florida.
A guy named Anti Tie lives in a trailer park
and he likes to make these rage baiting videos and
post them online try to make money out of them. Well,
apparently racing, Like twelve forty five in the morning, he
was found in the common area of this trailer park

(24:43):
that he lives in and he's yelling loudly. He's yelling
at his mama. He's yelling at some kids. He's yelling
at their mom. He's even got this giant stick, is
what they say. That he was waving around at neighbors
and you know, just trying to still fear in them
or whatever. They got tired of it. They called the police.

(25:04):
The police come out and he tells them, Yeah, I
make these videos and I post them online, try to
make money out of them. Cops didn't give a damn.
They went ahead and arrested him for disorderly conduct, took
him a jail.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
With a stick too.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I don't think they took the stick to jail. Skyscraper
sized asteroid zips past Earth. I don't know why this
keeps happening to me every time I get this set.
Every time so annoyed. So I get it previewed right
so I can read the story, and then I guess

(25:40):
because it's scheduled, it then isn't available for me to
look at anyway. A massive asteroid is being studied after
making a close approach to Earth Thursday. The asteroids, said
to be comparable in size to the New York skyscraper,
traveled at over twenty four thousand miles per hour while

(26:00):
passing Earth. It was first discovered in March and initially
thought to have a small chance of impacting in twenty
eighty nine, but NASA and the European Space Agency both
confirmed that it was not an immediate threat. So I
don't know if you guys got what I just said.
They didn't think it was gonna hit till twenty eighty nine,
and it did it last Thursday. They don't know what

(26:21):
they're doing. Well, technically it didn't hit. It just kind
of kept on going, but close enough for me. And
did they know, like, hey, hey boss, it's gonna be
here on Thursday.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
Yeah, our calculations were a little off.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Sixty years.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, all these stories are on our Instagram. Look for
it at nine to seventy five kmod.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
More of the Big Men Morning Show is next, and.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
We're going to go through our picks on how he did.
But I wanted to look and see a stat real
quick because I think a unicorn happened. Okay, Uh yeah,
I think a unicorn happened. Yeah, okay, four, Okay, So

(27:12):
this week's results, we all got Kansas City, right, we
all got San Francisco right, and then uh, Chicago had
the Game of the century and and yeah, they played
amazing and got the win. So the record for the
week is two and one, two and one, and then
Lindsay went three and zero, So the over settled down

(27:36):
because the overall record is you're three and six. Yeah,
gimbe a six and three, and then I'm at five
and four. So the unicorn that happened is it hasn't
been since Week four of last year that all of
our teams won in the same weekend. Awesome, week four
of last year, correct, Dymium, so about this time last year. Yeah,

(28:00):
good morning Lindsay.

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Speaker 2 (28:37):
Along Good luck Good morning gim Pie. Well, good morning Corbin.
If you're looking for something to do Wednesday night, Blink
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dot com. All right, best and worst of the weekend?
What's the best thing that happened this weekend? And the
worst thing that happened this weekend? Bmms and whatever that
is to eight two, nine four five, lindsay what's the

(28:58):
best and what's the worst?

Speaker 6 (29:00):
The best part of the weekend was on Saturday. We
were together with some really close friends and family for
celebration of some birthdays, and we watched some football, had
some amazing food all day and it was just a wonderful,
wonderful day and time spent together. The worst of the

(29:23):
weekend probably Friday. I left work. We had picnic at
our kids school, which I look forward to, but I
left here. They wanted Chick fil A. They wanted me
to bring them Chick fil A. So I did that,
and I'm waiting in line to get their food. I

(29:47):
get it, and before I head to the school, I
think I've got a few minutes. I'm gonna swing by
the house and change because I was wearing sweatpants and
it had gotten pretty warm, and the picnic of course outside,
so I wanted to change my clothes really quick and
use the bathroom. Well, I get home, I run inside

(30:08):
the house, and I didn't even turn my car off.
I was going to be that quick because I was
running short on time. Come out, drive to the school,
and I get to the school, I perk my car
and I turn it off, grab the bags of food,
and I go to grab my purse and my purse

(30:29):
isn't with me. And I'm like, that's weird. Where's my purse?
Did it roll underneath my seat? I'm looking, it's nowhere
to be found. My keys are in my purse. Well,
I turned my car off already, so I try to
turn my car back on. There's no key detected. My

(30:50):
car will not work without my key in my vehicle.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Does your car beep if it can't detect a key
like my car? If like I leave it running and
get out of the car, it'll start beating, saying, hey,
the car, there's no remote detected. Because my understanding is
that the car will not run if it suddenly starts.
Not detecting the.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Key, Yes, but I think it has to be you know,
without you know, within us certain miles away. I guess
I wasn't enough miles away.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
How far do you from your kid's school?

Speaker 6 (31:25):
About two miles maybe two and a half maybe.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
And I would think it would be less than that, right,
like a carjacker, Maybe your car will run without the
key there if you already got started like Lendsay's right.
But the moment you turn it off, that's when you're
so yeah, you know, and I get what you're saying.
As soon as you like step out of the car,
it's like ding ding ding. Hey your key's not in
he a sucker. But if it's still running, you can

(31:48):
you can still take off. Wow, yeah, it'll apparently keep
running for yeah, just like you said, so just stupid.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
So during the pack, I was a little freaked out.
I was having a hard time enjoying myself because I
was like, okay, so did I leave, Did I take
my bag inside and leave it inside my house? Or
in that short period of time, did someone happen to
open my car while I was inside and steal my.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Purse out of it inside at your home?

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Yeah? No, inside my car.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
No, like when you were you went inside your house, yeah, right,
right right, and somebody could have taken that's what. Yeah,
if it was a grocery store, gas station, I could
see that. Not your neighborhood, right.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
So and thankfully another one of my close friends who
was there at the picnic as well, she took me home.
She was there to drive me home and drive me
back to the school, which is of course a headache
for her, but thank god, she was my hero that day.
And so I walk in my house and I'm searching.

(32:56):
I look at my kitchen, first on the counter, not there.
I run into my bedroom. There it is. It was
like a spotlight shown right on my handbag, like there
it is. Thank god, because the whole time in the picnic,
I'm looking at my credit card apps, making sure no
one's using them, you know, just panic.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Mode, right, because you've had your personal.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Before yet exactly exactly. So that was the worst part,
but thankfully it wasn't stolen.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Best and worst of the weekend. What's the best thing
that happened this weekend? The worst thing that happened this weekend?
BMMS and whatever that is to eight two, nine, four five,
give me what's the best and what's the worst. That's
a tough one, man. I'm gonna go with the best
being Friday. Friday, myself and my brother and two of
my buddies went to Hank Williams Junior, that rescheduled concert

(33:42):
at the bok Center. Awesome show, Awesome. We partied our
little lasses off and had a good time on a
Friday night, and I guess you know, that's where the
worst of the weekend comes in. Woke up the next
day hungover, and I was like, see, I stopped during
the week right, So I just drink on the weekends
Friday Saturday. That's it. And I haven't gone that hard.

(34:06):
I didn't even go that hard at Oklahoma this year, right,
So I woke up. I had a remote Saturday morning
at US Sailor there on forty first, and Sheridan had
to be there at ten o'clock, and I was hungover.
I was like, this ain't nothing new, right, I've been
worse than this before. It's okay. So I made it
through the remote, okay. And then after the remote, myself,

(34:33):
my gay friend Chip he's not really gay, but nonetheless,
and a couple other buddies we rode down to Oklahoma City,
right because there was this bike fest that was going on.
So the plan was to go down there, play some
disc golf in the city, go head out and check
out the bike fest. And so we get down there,
we ride all the way down to Oklahoma City, and
we decided not to play the disc golf. Let's just

(34:54):
go ahead and go over to Bucks check out the
bike fest because by the time we got done with
the disc golf at a bit late whatever. So we
did and that was fun. That was a lot of fun,
you know, had a few drinks, still hungover, nonetheless, but
then rode all the way back to UH to Tulsa
from the city and as we're riding back, the sky

(35:17):
starts lighting up a little bit, and I was like, okay,
well we can get week week. That's okay, We'll get
to where we need to go before the rain hits. Okay,
And for us, every every adventure starts and ends at
the town pump, right, So when we got finished off there,
we got to the town pump and I wouldn't there
maybe ten minutes and the brain starts pouring down and

(35:42):
it's like ten o'clock at night at this point, in
time right, and I was like, I was done with
the day. I was done. I've been up, i've been hungover.
I'm just like I am ready for my bed. So
I guess ultimately the worst part of the weekend I
had to sit different like an hour and a half
and wait the goddamn rain. Now finally there was a break,

(36:04):
and I was like, I'm taking my chances. Now I'm leaving,
and then rode my happy ass home. Hit a few puddles,
got lit with legs, you know whatever, But it's just
having to wait it out. I just wanted to just
go home. Best and worst the weekend? What's the best
thing that happened this weekend? And the worst thing that
happened this weekend? Bm my mass and whatever that is

(36:25):
to eight two, nine, four five Best in the weekend?
Best and worst are the kind of the same for me.
Best we had some friends in town, so we went
out to eat and we ate down on Barons on
first and Uh it was phenomenal meal, good beverages. Uh
had the Antelope. Every time I have antelope, it's so good.

(36:45):
I've never had an It's awesome. Okay, what's it compared
to maybe flay okay, like a beefy flavor, more like
a gamey dearie venezula. Not game at all. Okay, not
game at all. It's not doesn't have a lot of
fat in it, like a ribby. But uh it's really good. Okay.

(37:06):
I've had it a couple of times this year, and
every time I'm like, damn, that is good. Huh. Yeah.
And they had a crazy good dessert with like these
little donut things and these drunken cherries and it was awesome. Yeah.
Uh So that was the best part. And always seeing
our friends is a really good time. And then the
worst part of the weekend is as we were finishing eating,

(37:29):
it started raining. We're like, okay, well we'll just go
to the bar here. Let that pass, and then we'll
move to somewhere else. No, it was a and we
didn't know it was even supposed to rain. Torrential downpour,
I mean sideways. It was coming in under the door
at this restaurant. That's how much rain. One guy left

(37:53):
to go get his car. He came back, he was drenched,
You're like, and then he cared. I picked up this
woman and carried her to the car, and I'm like,
she's still getting wet, right, but she doesn't have to
walk any sure, And so anyway, I learned this is
the worst part what high demand pricing on Uber is right,

(38:17):
because not only was it raining, which probably made the
price go up, and everybody was trying to get an
Uber rather than walking to you know, two blocks away.
Shane Gillis was getting out, and I think there was
another event that was happening downtown too. So normally from

(38:38):
downtown to my house is about thirty forty bucks, right
it was, And we tried to wait it out, and
this was less than what it initially was the first time.
We looked and we're like, well, we'll have another one.
So normally I would have been home by ten. Yeah,
I didn't get home till midnight. It was almost one
way pastime, way past my bedtime. One hundred and forty

(38:59):
dollars low would just for the Uber, just for one
Uber to our house. Well, it was already thirty forty
dollars to get by the way, way cheaper than the
DUI sure don't. I'm I am fifty. I'm no plans
to be in a jail cell, so I don't care
how much it costs. It's like having my septic system fixed.

(39:21):
I don't care. I told you that I was done.
I was ready to go home, right. So my thought
was the same thing. I'll just get an uber from
the pump, get a ride home, and then I'll just
walk back from my house because it's only like seven
eight miles right. Exercise anyway, I didn't exercise any at
all last week, so I'm like that would be a

(39:41):
great way to make up for it. And uh, I
get on there and they wanted forty bucks to take
me from the town pump fifty first Memorial to seventy
first Street and Broken Arrow. I said, I'll just wait
it out. You said you're exercising. Ye, I'm sorry elaborate.
That feels like a well, that feels like it feels

(40:03):
like you just said you got married. Like that's a
wild statement coming for you. And so for you to
dumb it down, like like yeah, like I should just know.
It's not like I'm doing set ups or pushups or anything.
I just walk around the neighborhood. Man, that's it. You
go on a little solo walk, grab my dog, a
little walk aout. Yeah, and I just walk around the neighborhood.

(40:23):
I h I figured a nice little path in my neighborhood,
takes me around the hood, pulls me back out on
elm there and I think by the time I reach
back to my house, it's like two and a quarter mile. Okay,
So I just pop my headphones in and sometimes I
take a dog with me. Sometimes I don't. But yeah,

(40:45):
we just walk around the neighborhood. And I try to
do that at least once a week. Good for you,
least once a week, just because it's something better than
just sitting there getting fatter. You know what I mean.
Who had gimpie eating healthy and exercising on their BMMS
Bingo card? No one, no one. There wasn't even a

(41:06):
debate to put it on the Bingo card, right right,
You know it's time for a change. As I sit
here and look at this fat good of mine, Hey,
look at your own gun?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Best and worst of the weekend. Best part of the
weekend that somebody text in firstborn child happened Thursday after
two rounds of ibs. Worst. Let let the sleepless nights begin.
Every time I hear about somebody having kids and they
are like their baby's born, especially their first one. The

(41:37):
journey you are about to go on. Is wild to
think about the amount of self doubt the amount of joy,
Like it is a wild journey there you cannot be
prepared for. So good for you. Best of the weekend
wife got off early with you on Friday, so we
could spend the evening together. Worst, wife got off work

(41:59):
early on Friday, so I didn't get a chance to
get a free tank of gas from Gimpie. Oh you
could have. You could have put it on the back
of that back and roll right on out there. Don't
be a bitch, come on. Best was winning a two
hundred and fifty dollars Sanders Nursery gift card. Worst was
Cowboys Lost, trying to listen Sanders Nursery's awesome, trying to

(42:28):
decide it if that would how high that would get
up on my best if you're a plant head, I
could see how that could be okay, really really enjoyable,
like a little mother's tongue. Yeah, So do you spend
the whole two hundred and fifty on one plant? Or
do you spend your two fifty on several several plants.

(42:49):
I've put it around the house. I mean probably you
could easily spend it on one house plant. Yeah, that's
so bizarre. Two hundred and fifty dollars for a plant.
Yeah a pot? Okay, yeah, pots are really nice. Ones
are yes, But yeah, how did you win it to it?

(43:09):
By the way, Who's like, nah, I don't know what
I'm doing. Best of the weekend my husband and I
got to see Shane Gillis at the Bok and it
was awesome. Worst of the weekend giants are now in
three Thanks Corbyn. I wouldn't call it wasn't that awesome.
Best part of the weekend was Sunday getting baptized. Worst
is having to go back to work for the week
away from home. Gonna miss my fiance and kiddo. Congratulations

(43:32):
on the Mulligan Saturday. The best hung out at the
bar on our cruise ship in gavel Galvelston, Galvelston. Yeah.
The worst Sunday driving home eight hours with the hangover,
First world problems. Worst was my house sounds like an
infirmary with all the infected noises noses. Best was we

(43:58):
did a lot of lounging and resting. Best I've got
a four wheeler for free, just needs a new battery.
Worst part was going to the casino the Day of
Fun and losing the budget in an hour. Our luck
was atrocious. Yeah, I worked at Shane Gillisonvint and had
to walk afterwards to my car across the tracks. I've

(44:19):
never walked in rain like that in my life. Keep
it up, Gimbi. Walking daily can change your life.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
Hooray.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I'm sure it. I'm sure it can't. I'm sure it does.
Lindsay's talked about working out before I've talked. We've never
gotten no, man, I'm not at the gym membership level yet.
That's not the point. The point is no one's ever
sent a message of encouragement to Lindsey or myself about

(44:52):
working out. Well, I mean, I guess that's what happens,
because you guys aren't sloths like I am. Like finally
getting up do something. Best found my grandpa's family history
stash and original Muscogi nation books in the Muskogi language
from eighteen eighty That's cool. Also found in unseen photos

(45:13):
of the chiefs of Pulpa family and original documents. That's cool.
I'm hyped, and I'll let you guys know if I
end up with tuberculosis after going through everything, worst I
don't know, can't complain. Best of the weekend. Wife got
off early, so we did that already. Best, ou wins.
Worst Dallas still sucks. We'll get into that. Best had
a lazy weekend with my wife. Worst had to cancel

(45:35):
our motorcycle trip to Branson. Best got to see Hank
Junior Friday night. Even better got to see the Sooners
beat Auburn. Worst, it's all over all right, we're gonna
take a break. We've got tickets. I'm sorry, We've got
Mega Ride passes.

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(46:35):
You're in. All right, let's do our listeners are awesome.
We like to chat with the listener. They share part
of their life with us. And on the line right
now is Keith. Hey, Keith, how are you?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Hey? Good morning Keith.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
It says here that you are not married and you
have a new girlfriend. Congratulations, Thank you for that. How'd
you meet your girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
At my work? Actually? She come in need some services
and kind of took off from there and you gave.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Her some, didn't you. How do you ask out a customer?

Speaker 1 (47:12):
It was kind of the other way around.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I love that for you. That had to be an
ego boost.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Oh yeah, definitely right.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah? What did she say? What was her line?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
She just asked if I wanted to go out sometime, I.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Mean right to the chase. Sounds like a very simple woman.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
It says that most of the time, right, It says
here that you ride with the Priesthood Motorcycle Ministries. Tell
us about that, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
So man, it's just a group of friends, that big
group that just likes to ride motorcycles and talk about Jesus.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
And how did you how did you get connected to them?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
So, man, I come to Bottlesviell back in twenty sixteen,
trying to get away from the old life, you know
what I mean, and look for something different for myself.
And my first week or two there, I walked in
Homele Road Church here in Bartlesville, and the Bartlesviell chapter
of the Priesthoods based out of there, and I just
kind of got to know them over the years, and
then last year when I bought my bike, I started
going to events with them and just kind of taking

(48:14):
off from there.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
And so you didn't even have a bike then, you
It wasn't until you kind of got involved with them
that you were like, I want to get a bike
and ride with these guys.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Well, I you know, I always wanted a bike, but
I didn't know until I got one how much I
wanted one, you know. And that's when I really started
getting involved in their events. I mean, I went to
a lot of their events before. But you know, having
a bike now, I was able to start riding with them.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
And what was it that made you want to change
your playground and move to get up to Bartlesville?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
The sick and tired of being sick and tired?

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Man?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
You know, I wanted more for myself and I was
running with the bad crowd and wanted just wanted something different,
you know, And I heard about a place up here.
It gave me the opportunity to have a fresh start,
and you know, life is kind of own up and
expand it from there.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
And it sounds like you've been pretty active with them
since you joined. You recently put together a charity ride.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yes, sir. It's called the UH through the Iron Butt Association.
It's called the Saddlesore one thousand, and it's basically it's
a thousand mile motorcycle riding under twenty four hours. It's
kind of a bucket list deal for me and a
buddy of mine, and well, me and Jim, one of
the guys's going with me, and we we's got to
talk and he's like, well, let's do it for charity, man,
And we do a our church does a memorial ride

(49:35):
for a guy named John Prentis and his daughter recommended
that we donate the money to pet Trivett. So we
was like, well, we'll just do that. So we're we're
riding in any anything we raise, Any funds that we
raised through the event goes directly to Pets Rivettes.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
And tell me about that organization.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
So you know, they raised money in they train these
pets to go to these vets, you know, to kind
of give them a new mission in life, you know,
give them something something to focus on, kind of get
them past their past traumas and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I'm looking at your Facebook, brother, you do a lot
of charity stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
So about four years ago, Man, I had this idea.
I wanted to bless you know, a few families with turkeys,
and I stay up in front of my church and
ask for people to get involved. And you know, my
goal was ten or fifteen turkeys, you know, and that
year we handed out seventy eight. I have no corporate

(50:39):
or commercial sponsors that get involved. This is all members
of my church and my community to help me. And
then that following Easter, you know, I decided that it
be kind of cool to put some Easter baskets together,
and I've been doing both those for about four years now,
you know. And to be honest with you, I think
I get more out of it than the people I
get to help, you know, because it really really sets

(51:00):
me free of the bondage of self and helps me
to focus on something positive.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I mean, one hundred percent. That is the number one
way to make yourself happy is to give to others.
And it is, you know, probably one of the less
taken advantage of lessons in the Bible is to help
help somebody in need.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
That's right, you know, love your brothers, yourself.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, and when you give these turkeys, now, are you
playing a part of like giving turkeys to people? Yes,
so you physically hand the turkey or meet up with
them or.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yes, sir. So you know, I from the beginning beginning
to the end, I'm involved, and I've the past couple
of years, I've had some friends that jump in and help,
but I rally the money, you know. I started a
fundraiser on my Facebook individually, you know, and then people
just kind of donate, and then the last last week
before Thanksgiving we work on getting them delivered. To have
time to fall out before Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Sure, I just can't do that A day before. Do
you go to the grocery store and like, hey, I
need three hundred turkeys? Is that how that works out?
And then they're like all right, fine, and then they
roll out a palette of turkeys and then load them
in your try. How's that work out? Oh? Man?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
I just go in there with a cart and I
go straight back to turkeys and you can get about
ten or fifteen in before you break a basket.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Can confirm I was gonna say, did you learn that
the hard way?

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Uh? For sure? For sure. But you know, you know,
Walmart's been great. They always have great prices and they
don't give me a hard time about emptying them out
every time I show up. You know, on a good year,
we average about one hundred and fifteen turkeys. You know.
The challenges of it. The challenges of it is storing them,
you know, because I got to stay frozen, tell you
deliver them and so it gets technical and complicated sometimes,

(52:51):
but we make it happen.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
So do you call in favors to people that have freezers?
And like, hey man, you bet I do. Could you
just not ask the store that you get them at
and be like, hey, I want to pay for them,
but I just need to house them here until I'm
ready to be pick them up.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Man, I never thought about that.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
There you go, light bulb. You love me?

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Hey, I say that same thing.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I love that. I love that. You know, we're solving
problems for you. What else you got on your plate?
We could fix what else you need to fix? Man?
So you do the easter baskets to do you play
a part in making sure those get delivered to the kids?
Like do you get to see their face?

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Absolutely? Absolutely? I do, man, And it's really rewarding. You
know that the Easter baskets is pretty cool. I'll go
to I go to a dollar tree and gether everything
up and we put them together and then and then
same with you know, just like the turkeys we deliver them.
I like the turkey drive more because I know that
it's helping more than just one person for piece. You know,

(53:54):
Easter baskets are really cool. He gets the light up
the life of a child. But you know a turkey
lights up a family.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, well, and that's such an important family or communal moment.
And then the idea that they get to have that
I know that from our involvement with Toys for Tots
and and seeing parents like know they're going to get
to be a part of Christmas is just an incredibly
moving thing.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Yeah, you know, there's there's a lot of families out there.
I grew up Christmas and Thanksgiving and you know, all
the holidays were really special in my family. You know,
I was really blessed, and I kind of grew away
from that as I got older and started getting in
trouble and stuff. But whenever I came to Bartlesville, you know,
it dawned on me how fortunate I was and how
many people were less fortunate than that, And you know,

(54:40):
I just wanted to I wanted to make a difference,
you know. And you know, through my past lost stuff
I've done, I don't have the ability to make amends for.
So you know, I do this stuff to make living
amends to people that I can't you know that I
can't make rights to If that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yeah, one hundred percent. That is Uh, it's making amends.
Is one of those things is that you probably can
cite things that you've been a part of in your
life that you should make amends for. I always get
twisted up on the ones that I'm not aware of
that I should be making amens for. So even if
I'm doing I'm like, Okay, well, I should probably do
this because I'm sure there's one out there I'm not

(55:15):
aware of, and I need to be in commenced for
that too.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Absolutely. And you know, my grandma was real big about
helping people and giving to people, you know, and you
know there's a part of my period of time in
my life while she's still alive, but I put her
through the ringer, you know, with my attitude and actions,
and you know, part of me given is just is
just carrying on what she taught me.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Yeah, was she like one of the more important people
in your life.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
I grew up with her and my grandpa raised me,
and they were extremely important in my life.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
At what age did you start living with them and
them raising you?

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Uh, two days old? Maybe?

Speaker 6 (55:54):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Did you know your mother?

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely, she just she was living a life
where she wasn't in a position to raise me at
the time. And you know that's part of part of
my story. I followed down that same path for a while,
and you know, that's that's how I ended up here.
In Bartlesville.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
How old were you when you realized that your grandparents, Like,
did you always call them grandma and Grandpa? I mean
two years old? You probably? I mean they taught you
how to'll talk and do all those things. So did
you always call them grandma and Grandpa?

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I always called them granny and Papa? I mean that
was you know, for as long and far back as
I can remember.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
At what age were you that you realized this isn't
normal for a mom to not be around and that
for grandma and Grandpa to raise you?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
You know, I never thought about it, honestly.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Because for you, that was normal, right, Like that's that
was right? Absolutely, that's the way it should be.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, and I knew. I knew that
that there was there's certain issues in my mom's life
that hindered her from being there as a regular parent,
but you know, she did the best she could for
her circumstances too. Though.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah, dude, we got a text just now and this
doesn't happen very often, uh, and they just said, uh,
I used to work with Keith. He's a good person.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Oh wow. Who ever sent that text, thank you. I
appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
That's that's awesome unsolicited. When we get things like that,
it just doesn't happen. I mean, people, our listeners are
nices most of the time, but they also can be
real dicks. And uh, for somebody to send that in
speaks highly of your character, that someone's hearing of you
and like, man, he's a good guy and wanted to
pick up their phone, type out a text to us
and hit send.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
That's crazy just because just because you're.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
A good dude. Listen, Keith, it's been awesome talking to you. Man,
Good luck. When is the ride? Are you? Are you
putting any training in?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
So I've done I've done several, you know, four or
five six hundred mile days, so it's nothing for me
to jump on the bike and go a distance. This
will be the longest and hardest ride I've been on.
But Jim, he's going with the gym where he rides
more than I do. And then my buddy Michael Alexander,
he's been going out every day and riding two or
three one hundred miles just to prepare himself that, you know.

(58:16):
Other than that, you know, when we leave October thirteenth,
it's a whole new world to all of us how long.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Like how like how many stops will you get to
make during that ride?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Oh, probably four or five each way.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
And like how long will you get to stop? Like
maybe what ten?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Maybe fifteen minutes at best, you know, just to just
to make sure we keep our mile of javerage up, fill.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Up for gas, stretch your legs, and back a little bit,
and then background down the road.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
You go, huh, well, I don't need much time to
stretch my legs. They're short, so yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You're going at a good time that the wind shouldn't
be that crazy going through uh Amarillo and stuff, right.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Right, Yeah, who knows. Gimpy can join us.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
On the thirteenth. Oh, man, look I got something going
on the detch. No, I'll clear it for you. That's
a that's a monday. I gotta work. Yeah. Yeah, you
want to stop, you want to do something like this.
He's a good guy. Man, be a party. You've got
this whole new chapter of your life. You're going for walks. Yeah,
you're eating healthy now, now do a good charity event

(59:24):
outside of the show.

Speaker 6 (59:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I don't know if my bike can make a thousand
miles and a twenty four hour Spain, but Listen, Hey,
anything can happen. Now, that's another thing.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Gimpy, you raised enough money you got on the back
of my bike.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
I don't think so. Listen, how much does it take?
How much does it take for him to ride on
the back of your bike. I'm pretty sure we can
get it together. A lot to ride, bitch the whole way.
I love that dude. Keep for right, Gimpy, I'd probably
a good trip. Listen. Thank you so much for talking

(59:58):
with us. Man. Good luck it's the ride. I'm sure
it's going to go great. And it sounds like you're
a good human being that does good things for people
around you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Yeah. Absolutely, man, I appreciate it. And hey, if it's
all right, I'd like to, you know, just kind of
address our veterans. I just want to say, you know,
thank you for everything that you've done for our country.
We love you and we appreciate you. And it means
an awful lot to me that I have the honor
to do stuff to benefit you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
That's awesome, man. Thank you so much for talking with us. Buddy,
good luck with everything, and let us know how it goes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
I'll sure do it, man. Thank you. You'all have a
great day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
See your letter. That's Keith. Our listeners are awesome. Take
a break and we'll be back. Things are never what
they seem right. Because of movies, we're led to believe
certain things well, and sometimes even how society depicts certain individuals. Right.
Let's use child molesters as an example. We think are
people that are going to flash kids at the playground.

(01:00:53):
You think they're wearing a trench coat. You think they're
going to still be wearing their black socks with their
sock guarters on, loafers, yes, and a mustache, right, But
in reality, they look like the person next to you.
That's the truth. They look like somebody you know, somebody

(01:01:14):
you trust. That's why. Yes. So there's a story of
a man. He went with his family on a nice
little cruise to the Cayman Islands with his pregnant wife
and eight children. Wow, Wow, I gotta know what he
does for a living, because holy crap. Anyway, those kids

(01:01:34):
are raised agingwhere between five and twelve. Seven of the
children were adopted from former foster kids. And I don't
know if I mentioned, but his wife's pregnant. So when
they returned, they went through customs and border protection which
is what you do. Even though you're on a cruise ship,
you are now basically cruse ships are their own countries essentially,

(01:01:56):
and so when you come back, you've got to go
through customs. Now, when we did the Disney Cruise, I
gotta be honest, it was pretty a nothing burger. I
didn't see people getting questioned. I had to answer like
one question and then boom, we were on our way.
It was nothing. Not a lot of people using the
Disney cruise to smuggle things. And I don't know just

(01:02:17):
whatever CBP is they maybe they don't see it as
a threat, or they think the Disney ones are the
less ding I don't know. And of course you know
there's thousands upon thousands of people, so maybe they did
detain some people. But apparently during a routine inspection upon
returning back to America, they checked his phone after he
gave them the pass code, oh, which I find fascinating. Yeah,

(01:02:42):
because I'm not giving you my pass code. No, there's
no need to. I know what you're saying, Well, why
not just cooperate, right, if you've got nothing to hide,
why wouldn't you give them your pass I think that's
a fair thing to say, yeah, for sure, I think
that in certain distances. If you think I've committed a crime,

(01:03:02):
that's different. But if I haven't committed a crime and
you haven't clearly explained to me what the crime is
I've committed, you think I've committed, I'm not sure why
I should go along with that, Right. So they go
through his phone and they find images suspected to be
child sexual abuse. One folder was labeled six year old

(01:03:26):
rare and there were about forty five images. He admitted
he knew of these images and that they were on
his device. He also said no one else had access
to the phone. He's being charged with possession and transportation
of child pornography. If convicted, he could get how long?
So all he's doing is possession and transporting the photos, right,

(01:03:51):
because he's on a cruise ship going.

Speaker 8 (01:03:54):
Back five years okay, fifteen thirty years in prison, Okay,
which I'm fine with. Yeah, right, I have no But
he's been a foster parent.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Right, right?

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
So how many more?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
How many kids were under his care? Yeah, it's only
fair to have that question. And there's a lot of
questions there, like the are these pictures of the kids
that he fostered? That him and his wife fostered because
they only have one right of their own and another
one on the way, and the rest of them are
all adopted apparently. Yeah, so are these pictures of the

(01:04:34):
kids that you have fostered in the past or are
they just something that you got off the internet? Even then?
Huh h. I don't understand why you keep it on
your phone. I don't understand people that do this type
of thing keep it on their phone, right, especially if

(01:04:56):
you know you can get caught with it. Just it's
like downloading porn, regular porn, like adult porn onto your
Like why would you download it? Right? Just watch it
and go on about your business. Yeah, so keeping it
to it later, keeping it is very bizarre. Think about
his poor wife, she either did or didn't know about this.

(01:05:17):
Let's just assume she didn't. And now she's pregnant and
she's got seven foster kids, right, and she's going to
deal with all this by herself because now I'm assuming
he's in jail. Oh it's his I think it's safe
to say his life is over right as he knows.

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
It at least, and well, the police have to show
her the photos to identify the victims to see if.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I mean, if I think, I think it's possible, but
I gotta be honest, that would be a tough pill
to swallow. Like, I want to help you out. I
don't want any kid, but I don't know if I
can look at those I don't know if I want
to look at those photos. Yeah, I have a couple
friends that dude children sexual crimes investigation, and I can't

(01:06:07):
imagine the toll it takes on them. Yeah, I can't imagine.
You can't unsee those things. And I would imagine when
you see those type of things and you see the
predatory behavior, you can now start spotting it a mile away, right,
and you just can go mm hmm, and that every

(01:06:30):
thing you could do, because it's just a hunch, right,
And you can't just take someone's phone and look through it,
well unless you're customs agent. He gave the pass code,
that's the thing. What did he It was so normal
for him. He didn't think twice about it and gave
the pass code? Right, right?

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
Did he think he was above the law or did
he was he hoping to get caught, maybe to put
an end to to it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
That's that's a possibility. No, it's not that is I
feel like that is said to and I'm not saying
you're doing this to like normalize it. This person ain't normal. No,
so did he Maybe he did. Let's just say he
did good. You don't get an award for that though, No. All, So, like,

(01:07:19):
I don't love that mindset of like, well, maybe he
wanted to get caught, like he knew it was wrong. Nope,
if he knew it was wrong, he would have never
done it any he would have deleted it off his phone.
So for me, the idea of like he just thought
it was okay. I don't think he thought he was

(01:07:40):
above the law. Maybe thought it was hidden good enough.
That could be, But it's crazy to think how many
children have entered through his home and how I mean,
I don't know anything about children and sexual abuse. Is
it safe to say that someone who's into this just

(01:08:04):
looks at photos but doesn't participate. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:10):
I don't either. And better, and if you are a
foster home or family, should those things be investigated? Should
you have to turn over your computers or your phones.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
And have background checks like to random inspections?

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
I mean I don't hate that. Yeah, I don't hate that.
I wonder I know of stories where people have been
in the foster care system to be adopted and unfortunately
they're all over the age of eight or nine, and
the abuse that they go through. So I don't think

(01:08:48):
you sit here and go is there any safeguards? No?
Right there, We're, as Hinsley has said before, we're a
reactionary base. It's reactionary based. I'm sure they do their
diligence ahead of time. Have you been convicted of felonies? Right,
But ultimately it's only after your Like I'm sure this

(01:09:11):
guy had a clean record, but his fail if his
wife didn't know, like I think about his poor wife.
If she knew, well that's a whole other thing, right, Oh,
then she's going to get charged for that. If she
did know. You think I don't know. I don't think

(01:09:32):
you get I don't think there's like a tattletale law. No. No,
I mean, actually, y'all, least the way it was put
to me. If there's abuse in the house by somebody
and you knew about it but didn't do anything about it,
you are just as guilty and you get in trouble

(01:09:53):
as well because you did not report the crime that
was being happening, right, So if I guess if she did,
if they found out that she did know about it,
then yeah, she would totally get popped as well. I
don't know, and I wouldn't I wouldn't say it's just
as bad. I agree that it's not okay, But the

(01:10:14):
parameters could also involve threats of violence and things like
that to the person, the other person in the home.

Speaker 6 (01:10:25):
What if she was being abused as well?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yeah right, yeah right, you're in fear of your life.
So I don't like the optics of like charging somebody
who's also getting abused because they were so scared. Yeah,
I get what you're saying. Get I totally get that.
I feel like and I'm probably wrong. I don't know,
but like, hey, it doesn't matter. You still know, knew,
and you didn't say anything about it, okay. So there

(01:10:47):
are different scenarios of reporting the abuse failure to protect
laws In many states, if a parent or guardian knew
or should have reasonably known about abuse and didn't act
to stop it or protect the children, they can face charges.
Things like child endangerment or neglect are usually and he
usually carries a felony penalty, obligation to report. Parents, caregivers,

(01:11:10):
and sometimes even other adults in the home may have
a legal duty to report suspected abuse. If they fail to,
prosecutors can argue they enabled it, which is what GIMPI
was saying. Here's my question. If I suspect my friend Joe,
I was gonna use one of you, but then I

(01:11:30):
decided I appreciate that, But Joe is maybe hurting his kids.
An accusation of that in involving the police could potentially
blow up his life without me knowing for sure. Right,
but I suspected it but didn't tell, right I am.

(01:11:57):
I'm all for the argument of like, yeah, even if
you're not sure, why not double check? I hear you,
and in the sake of the child, I agree. Right,
But if Joe really isn't doing anything you just had
a hunch, the investigators would do their due diligence to
find out and it would come back, you know, unsubstantiated

(01:12:18):
or no, we don't have anything here. So if it's
kept under wraps, right then it wouldn't. Then then there
wouldn't be any problems. Hey, boss, I need the day
off because I've got to go speak with the police.
Why I'm being suspected of child abuse? Right right? It
could still potentially ruin his life, you know, with work

(01:12:40):
and that stuff. But for the safety of the children, Okay,
I'm on board. This text here is like they had
to have suspected something. I've been on twelve cruises and
multiple cruise lines and I've never been asked to see
my phone. So that makes me wonder what the cruise
line was he caught or you know, suspected peeping on
kids while they were using the bathroom or being creepy

(01:13:01):
out at the pool. Well, they would not know that
because they're back on American land though CBP doesn't go
on the ship, but I would suspect and I'm just
guessing here. Yeah, the texture didn't travel with seven children,
and I would think that maybe it has some and
if they all look different, right, there could be some

(01:13:21):
optics of trafficking. And even if they like, there's some
questions to get asked to make sure they are your
kids and you know you did adopt, you know what
I mean, Like, yeah, that makes sense, that would be
doing diligence and then maybe the answers triggered some curiosity
on the officers and they asked further questions which led
to the phone being procured. That would make sense. Yeah,

(01:13:43):
but just because you and your wife go on a
bunch of cruises and it never bothers never get asked,
doesn't mean that there's no filters in place when they
see anomalies, like somebody on a cruise ship with seven
kids that you know, there's nine of you and it
costs what easily one thousand dollars each?

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
Yeah, and was it just her his phone? They didn't
ask for her phone as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
This story doesn't say that. Yeah, maybe this texture should
take seven random kids from seven different nations on a
cruise with them and see how that works out, all right,
challenge accepting.

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Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Good morning, gimpee, good morning according to this picture that
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you know, communicate with us, you can do so by
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(01:14:56):
the studio now is Jeff Hensley from Hensley and Associates.
Good morning, Jeff, Hey, good morning. He's here to answer
any question you have about family law, anything that's to
do with custody or guardianship or adoption or things like that.
I've got two news things that i wanted to ask
you first. So while I'm asking that gets you a
question to us eight three three four six, Oh, KMOD
you can text a BMMS and whatever that question you

(01:15:17):
have for Jeff to eight two nine four five or
email show at kmod dot com. First one is we
were reading a story on the just a few minutes
ago about a man who was re entering the country
after being on a cruise with his wife, pregnant wife
and seven kids that are adopted. He went through his
phone the found sexual abuse images of children, and he's

(01:15:39):
obviously now in trouble for the appropriate charges.

Speaker 7 (01:15:43):
Sure, first of all, go ahead, what are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
The safeguards for kids that are in the adoption in
the foster care system to safeguard from these type of things.

Speaker 9 (01:15:57):
Well, okay, so just quick question, how did they get
into Who got into his phone?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Was so he was re border protection that I guess
they pulled him aside. He voluntarily gave his pass code
and then that's when they went through the phone.

Speaker 7 (01:16:10):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Okay, so right, there's some questions.

Speaker 7 (01:16:13):
Yeah, there's no different.

Speaker 9 (01:16:13):
Questions there about you know, search and seizure and all
these other things.

Speaker 7 (01:16:17):
But anyway, so you know.

Speaker 9 (01:16:21):
The adoptive process is something that's meant to be joyful
and safe and wonderful for families and for kids. Do
these bad things happen at times every once in a
blue moon. Yeah, you're gonna hear you do hear these stories? Unfortunately,
mean it's unfortunate side of humanity. Right As far as safeguards,
I mean, no one should ever be afraid, especially children,

(01:16:43):
should ever be afraid to tell somebody that they're being
hurt or miss miss mistreated or assaulted or whatever it
may be. So you know, as far as kids are concerned,
I mean, I would tell any children child out there
that's old enough to understand, you know, be honest and
if something is happening telegram, is that kind of what
you're getting at.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I mean, I just didn't know if how do they
ensure when somebody is going into the foster care it's
gonna be a foster parent that they're these things. Well,
so that's going to happen.

Speaker 9 (01:17:12):
Well, as you know, the foster system is all screwed up,
and it is one of these things that there is
a big they're trying to do a big lawsuit against
DHS dealing with the foster system. They've been trying to
get a grand jury going and that's a whole nother
you know thing going on there our system And I'm
sorry if anybody in that works for the system is

(01:17:33):
listening to this, but our system is broken. It's one
of those things that I think there should be far
more safeguards put in place for our children that are
in those programs than they're currently are. And I hope
that based upon some of the things that have come
in the pipeline and have made the news and things
like that will help those who are in charge of
those systems decide that they need to make those changes.

(01:17:55):
Any child should never feel frightened or scared in the
home that they're in. You should always be able to
tell a grown up what's going on so that you
can get some help. I mean, it's we're there to
protect the children, not not cause them any more pain
than they're already going through.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
I would think that if you are someone who's an
advocate for fostering kids in the process or adoption, that
you also believe in the responsibility of being a good
custodian of the ideology of being a parent that fosters
you're doing more damage to the system right than you are.

Speaker 9 (01:18:31):
I think there should be better safeguards put in place
for choosing foster parents, honestly, But you know, again that's
just my my belief because that's where a lot of
the abuse occurs is in those homes where people have
not been vetted the way they should in my opinion so.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Well, and there's some bad actors that try to take
advantage of the system that to help make sure foster
kids are taken care of when they're in someone else's
custom play.

Speaker 9 (01:18:55):
So if you have any problems with this, always, you know,
contact your legislator.

Speaker 7 (01:18:59):
They are the ones that can make these changes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Do you ever get calls from not children, but people
under eighteen.

Speaker 9 (01:19:07):
Every once in a blue moon we get a call
from somebody wanting to know about emancipation. That's really the
only phone call that we get from someone under the
age of eighteen. If it's for something else. You know,
we don't get those calls, at least not at my office.

Speaker 7 (01:19:22):
We just get emancipation questions.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Jeff Finsley's in the studio. If you have a question
about any family los scenario, he can answer it eight
through three, four six, Oh, KMOD BMI mess in whatever
your question is to eight two nine four five, or
you can email show at kmod dot com. The other
one I have Connecticut is now the first state, starting
in October first, to ban first cousin marriages. So my

(01:19:47):
question I have for that a bad idea. My question
I have for you is that is a tattletale law,
right in terms of someone would have to tell on you,
they don't do it basically.

Speaker 9 (01:19:58):
Yeah, I mean when you apply for a marriage license
in any state, you don't have to list your family tree.

Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
I mean you don't, right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
I don't have a list barely anything.

Speaker 9 (01:20:07):
Well, not to take it political, but you know we've
got a member of the squad who married her own
brother right to get him citizenship. Nobody checked that one.
And you know, again we've talked about this before that
there is no national database for marriage licenses, right, So yeah,
I mean, you don't have to prove anything. You don't

(01:20:29):
have to again give your family tree or your background
or anything like that. It's I want to marry this person,
and here's my day to birth, and you know, I
sign here. And some states require blood tests for diseases
and things like that. Others say you can take marriage
counseling to get around that kind of stuff. So I mean,
there's just there's a lot of moving factors. But to

(01:20:49):
answer your question, it is kind of a tattle. No
one's gonna know unless you tell them. Right, there was
a case, I want to say it was a little
less than ten years ago here in Oklahoma, where a
mom had her rights taken away through an adoption, and
then she found the daughter when she was older than
or the son or the daughter Kimbridge one found them

(01:21:11):
when they were older and then married the daughter.

Speaker 7 (01:21:16):
No one checked that one. Again, there's no right.

Speaker 9 (01:21:19):
It's a tattletale law in the sense that nobody knows.
Now if you get caught, obviously there is a repercussion
for that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:25):
But you know, nobody's gonna again.

Speaker 9 (01:21:26):
No one makes you pull out your family tree and
say are you a first cousin?

Speaker 7 (01:21:29):
And you know those kind of things.

Speaker 9 (01:21:31):
So we should we should obvious say bad ideas from
marrying first cousins, I mean in breeding and things like that.
I mean, look at European royalty right throughout history. But yeah,
it's a tattletale law for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
To point out, most states have laws to prevent marriages
between parents, grandparents, sibline's children, things like that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:48):
So yeah, absolutely, I mean because again.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Does it happen a lot or did it happen? Was
this more of like a fear of a monarchy than
it was happening like an epidemic that they had to
solve it and write along?

Speaker 7 (01:21:58):
I don't know. I mean, I think.

Speaker 9 (01:22:02):
This is Jeff's thoughts based upon the history that I know,
and I'm a kind of a history buff, but I
will tell you that some of it I think tied
into the fact that you had these groups of people
that were by themselves, their their marriage pool was very limited, right,
and so they would had inner marriages based upon the
fact that that's all they had access to at certain
points in history. Right, you know, that's just not the

(01:22:25):
case today. There's seven billion people. Find somebody other than
your relative, right, right, I mean, I mean, gimpi's laughing,
but it's the truth, right, there's seven billion people on
this fricking planet. Yeah, find somebody else. And there are
more women there are men. So guys, find someone other
than your cousin. Man, you already got to send them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
In common though, Yeah, I mean, you got, you know, family,
You don't have to worry about bringing in this whole
other difference less gifts and Christmas. Right, Well, I can understand.
I mean obviously I agree hundred percent.

Speaker 9 (01:22:53):
You know, I feel like I need to make an
Arkansas West Virginia joke here, but I sure won't. Sure now,
I can make Arkansas jokes, guys, because both sides of
my family from Arkansas, so boom, I'm allowed to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Yeah. But well, and there is an argument there were
side quested. There is an argument there about that rural
areas where that's why Arkansas and certain places get labeled
that way because of the ruralness and the lack of
availability or even not knowing ignorance that they were their cousin.

Speaker 7 (01:23:23):
Right, Yeah, I mean there's that.

Speaker 9 (01:23:24):
I mean, it's it's like the propagation of the species, right,
I mean, you you interact with those that you're around
if your pool is very limited, and especially in days
where we didn't have cars and it was easy to
travel and all those kind of stuff and you had
to you know, do horses and carriages and all that
kind of crap. Right, So it was very different back then.
But obviously with it with the way modern society is
and the availability of being able to go pretty much

(01:23:45):
anywhere in the US very quickly by plane or car,
bus or whatever it may be, obviously those laws need
to be in place because you know, again there could
be potential genetic issues, and we don't want sure being
sick and having those kind of issues.

Speaker 7 (01:24:00):
You deserve to live a good, full, healthy life.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Jeffers make good choices. Jeff Iss here from Hensley and Associates.
You've got a question about fanal law. Now is the
time to get your question to us eight three three
four six oh kmod text bmmss and whatever your question
is to eight two nine four five or email show
at kmod dot com. This text says, the biological father
of my wife's daughter wants to sign away as rights.
What does that process entail?

Speaker 9 (01:24:23):
Well, you'd have to do an adoption. I mean that's
going to be the only way to do that in Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Someone else has to take responsibility.

Speaker 9 (01:24:30):
Right, correct, exactly. I mean you can't just we can't
just give away rights. Ok O state doesn't work that way.
It hasn't worked that way in forty plus years. I
think the legislature, I think the legislative intent there was
obviously they want to keep families together and they want to,
you know, make sure the kids are taking care of
financially and otherwise. But you can't just sign away your rights.

(01:24:51):
The only way to do that is through two ways
in Oklahoma. It's either through an adoption, right, or you
can sign away your rights in a deprived child neglect
action through juvenile court. So they're different titles in the statutes,
but the point is those are the only two ways
you can do it. So you can't just say, well,
I'm going to sew my rights away.

Speaker 7 (01:25:11):
And then walk away.

Speaker 9 (01:25:12):
Well, it doesn't work that way unless it's doing adoption
or through that other one.

Speaker 7 (01:25:15):
In a juvenile court.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
What about sitting at the kitchen table and signing a
piece of paper.

Speaker 9 (01:25:19):
Nope, means nothing. I mean you've wasted ink and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Would all right, So this email came in and it
says I have a question for you guys, and I'd
love for it to be dressed on the show. A
colleague of mine had a child with her now ex boyfriend.
She's hesitant to initiate any action with DHS regarding paternity
or child support because she's worried it might lead to
a custody dispute. Her main concern is whether DHS gets

(01:25:47):
involved in custody or visitation matters once paternity and child
support are established. Can you clarify whether DHS and Oklahoma
handles custody, custody or visitation issues or are those are
strictly handled through the courts. And they send a follow
up e mail and said, both the mother and father
are Native American.

Speaker 9 (01:26:07):
Okay, So the fact that their native it doesn't really
mean anything other than to say if they wanted to
handle it in a native court, they could. But most
tribal courts are pretty much the same when it comes
to these issues. All right, So what I will say,
is this, DHS, when you open a child support collection case,
the only thing they can do is they can find
dad to be dad and then make dad pay, right,

(01:26:27):
That's all they can do. They have no control or
input into custody or visitation at all in any way,
shape or form. Those have to be dealt with in
the district court. So you know, if you've got a
case like this, we would follow paternity action and deal
with customing visitation in the district court. When it comes
down to Native again, most Native courts and I'm licensed
in seven different tribal courts throughout the state. We're working

(01:26:51):
on more, but they're all pretty much the same when
it comes down to these issues. There are a few
crimes that have a few changes here and there, but
most of them follow the ocal mastatute on paternity and
those kind of things. So again, DHS only only has
the we're talking about the Child Support Enforcement Unit, okay,
of DHS. Their only control they have is on the money.
They have zero control on custing visitation. So if you've

(01:27:12):
got that issue where we need to worry about custing visitation,
give me a call.

Speaker 7 (01:27:15):
We can help you with that. And the concern is
a valid concern.

Speaker 9 (01:27:19):
Right, you poke the bear, you might end up getting
you know something back. And a lot of times people
hold off on filing child support actions because they're afraid
that somebody might come back and do say, well, okay,
if you're going to get my money, I want to
see my kid, right. And that's a very common concern
and a very common action that happens. So the concern
is valid and is something that does happen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Jeff from Hensley Associates is in the studio eight three
three four six, oh kmod or you can text BMMS
and then what you want to say to eight two
nine four five. This is the softball. You're ready. Let's
go for it, Jeff. Do you take payments?

Speaker 9 (01:27:54):
We have certain things we can work out with people
on a case by case basis, So please give Tracy
my own office a call. She's our operations manager and
can handle all the money questions.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
This text says, my divorce case has been open for
a few years and was told to file for default
and hope they don't show up. Should I do that?

Speaker 9 (01:28:15):
If you've got a case where it's and I don't
know the reasons why it's been open for so many years.

Speaker 7 (01:28:19):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:28:19):
Every case is different when it comes to that, but yes,
a default and filing for one is one way to
try and get a case complete by saying, if the
other side is not going to be involved, okay, if
they failed to show up at the hearing, then we
could get the case completed. So yes, that is definitely
an option, but it's not one you should do on
your own.

Speaker 7 (01:28:36):
So please give us a call. We can help you
with that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
I don't know anything about this person's situation, but do
Sometimes people set up an appointment with a lawyer and
get divorced and then treat it like set it and
forget it. You've got to play an active part, right,
and well it's started to keep that communication going.

Speaker 9 (01:28:54):
And sometimes it's that, all right, exactly what you're talking about.
Sometimes it's the other side is like, well, I'm I'm
just not going to be involved, screw you, and you
serve them, and you serve them, and if you know,
the main thing is if they don't respond within twenty
days of the initial petition, if we're talking about a
divorce or paternity case, all right, then we could file
emotion for defaults saying that they are choosing not to

(01:29:16):
be involved in the case, and if they fail to
show up, then we get the default and we get
the final order in place in life goes on. I mean,
sometimes it's that clean. That's a more rare scenario. Okay,
if you're on a scale of one to ten, with
ten being the most common and one being the least common,
it's more like a two or three. It's not like
the eight, nines and tens we deal with all the time.
But you know, it's one of those things that it

(01:29:38):
is an option and it does happen. There are people
that will say, well, I'm not going to give you
a divorce. Who cares not in Oklahoma? All right, we
don't have to have your permission to get the divorce done.
If you're not going to be involved in the process,
that's fine. We're going to default you and get it
moved done and finished and moving on with lives so
that we're not waiting around for years and years and
years waiting for you to do something. Okay, there are

(01:30:00):
options to move the case forward, and again we're just
going based upon what this person sent in.

Speaker 7 (01:30:05):
I don't know what the specifics.

Speaker 9 (01:30:07):
Are, but if it's a very simple thing like what
we have been talking about. Then yes, we can file
for the default and get it done if they're not
going to be involved.

Speaker 7 (01:30:16):
Absolutely, that is an option.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
When you file something like this and let's say she
he or she follows through with it and the default happens, right,
they don't reply, don't participate, Right. Can the other party
then come back in a few years and try to
undo it.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:30:35):
The only time that they can come back and undo
it is within the first thirty days of it being
entered by the court. So once the default decree is filed,
they have thirty days that start running. That says that
they can try and get the default undone right, because
at the end of the day, courts don't like defaults
because they like both parties to be involved. Obviously they

(01:30:56):
do happen in the law allows for it, but it's
one of those things that if you get a fault
against you, you've got thirty days to file emotion to
vacate that default and get the case moving that way.
So but no, you can't come back years later and say, oh, well,
I didn't like the fact that they got a de
fault against me because I was too lazy to get
off my button do something.

Speaker 7 (01:31:14):
You've got thirty days from the day that it's entered,
and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
And that's it. There's no like special circumstances like you're
in jail or rehab or anything like.

Speaker 9 (01:31:22):
Nope, you've got thirty days period. Doesn't matter where you are.
You know, there might be a special dispensation if you
are a person on the iss or something out in space.

Speaker 7 (01:31:32):
But that's about it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Last one here and then we have video, right, you
can last one here for Jeff from Mensley Associates about
family law questions. We pay monthly child support payments for
our seventeen year old. Our daughter complains of food concerns
when she's with the other parent, or needing personal things
that I thought could support covered, thought support covered. And

(01:31:56):
it's clear the child support is not being spent wisely
or on the child. Is this something we should be
concerned with? This parent also lives with her parents, so
there's no mortgage or bills out of their pockets. Can you,
as the other party be have an audit or be
concerned with how child support is being spent on the
other side of the fence.

Speaker 9 (01:32:17):
Here's my favorite response to that. Have you ever heard
the song gold Digger, Sure, all right. The reason I
say that is because you know it talks about using
child support for LPO and all this other My point
of saying this, besides just trying to bring some levity
to the situation, is is that no state requires an

(01:32:37):
accounting of how the money is spent. Now, this is
something that I, as an attorney, have been bitching and
moaning about since I started doing family law, simply because
I truly believe that there should be some sort of accounting.
But the idea is that child support covers everything from
paying for electricity, to paying for water and trash pickup,
to paying for food and clothing and tooth brush and

(01:33:01):
hair brush and you know, tennis shoes and all these things,
you know, help pay the mortgage or the rent to
those kind of things. I mean, the idea is that
there's so many things that it could be used for
that it's not required. And there's no requirement in any
state whatsoever as to where.

Speaker 7 (01:33:18):
The money goes and what it's being spent on.

Speaker 9 (01:33:20):
I would say that's one of the vaggaries of our
child support system, is that we need an accounting of
what parents spends that money on, because are there people
that go and blow that money. Absolutely, are there people
that don't need that money, because for example, this is
what I've told before, is you're married to a minor
league basketball player who plays in the European leagues making
millions of dollars, Do you need that five hundred dollars

(01:33:42):
a month? Absolutely not right. But again there's no requirement
for accounting. And that's the unfortunate part of it. And
again I keep saying this and I will continue to
say this every day we do a show. Is is
that if you've got a problem with the way the
laws are, because some of the laws suck, all right,
talk to your legislator. They're the ones the legislator for
your district. Give them a call. They're the ones that

(01:34:03):
have the power to make that change. So yeah, unfortunately
there is no accounting. And what their concerns are absolutely
one hundred percent valid, absolutely if the kid's not being
taken care of, But unfortunately there's no accounting requirements.

Speaker 7 (01:34:15):
And that's where it falls apart.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
If you have a question about divorce or custody or
any of those things, you need representation that knows the
system that isn't chat GPT, that isn't Google, That isn't
your friend, Sandy. You need to make sure you go
with someone who's got experience, like the folks at Hensley
and Associates and you can call them night three nine
eight five six nine two for Hensley Associates and if
you mentioned KMOD you get a free consultation over the

(01:34:40):
phone nine one eight three nine eight five six nine two.
And if you unfortunately find yourself in other areas of
the law outside of family law, Jeff can still be
the solution.

Speaker 9 (01:34:49):
For you, absolutely so through our office in Basco, give
Sam Allison a call up there, call her office in
Tulso and we can hookip with Sam. He can definitely
help you with anything in addition.

Speaker 7 (01:34:57):
To family law.

Speaker 9 (01:34:58):
So if you've got any criminal matters, we do a
lot of criminal matters to our office up there, and
it doesn't matter what county you're in, we can help
you with that. If you've got contract issues at oil
and Gas, if you've you've got property issues, if you've
got probate, wills and trust, we do a lot of
wills and trust. We've been doing a lot of prenups
lately too, so please give us a call. Anything in
addition to family law, we would love to help you with.

(01:35:20):
It's the Shoemake Law firm up in Pasca. If you
can't remember the name, just give us a call at
Hinsley and Associates in Tulsa. We'll give you the number.
Direct number up there to Sam and they can get
you taken care.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Of nine six nine two mentioned KMODI six nine two
for Hinsley Associates. Jeff, have a great week.

Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
Too, thanks the Big Men Morning Show returns.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
I grew up in northeast Iowa, and uh near there
is a town called Jessup, Iowa, and the police and Jessup,
Iowa have issued a Tepean warning because at homecoming sometimes
at least where I went to school, the cheerleaders would
tp seniors' homes. So the police department has issued a

(01:36:08):
warning saying it is now banned and anyone caught doing
it will face legal charges, including fines and community service.
Please say this has turned into a harassment targeting the
same non participants every year, right, because way if you
get the wrong house, that is true. You thought you
didn't know that cult move?

Speaker 7 (01:36:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
The department made numerous attempts last night to deter individuals
from entering into a specific residential property and dumping a
significant amount of toilet paper. The police department said, we
cannot and we're not available to watch every residence for
every minute in town last night. Just so you know,
Jessup is a town of twenty five hundred people, not
that big, not that big. There is a high probability

(01:36:56):
you can just go talk to their dad. Yeah, it
might even work with them when you go pick up
your groceries or the talk to the president of the
bank or maybe even your kids. It feels like it
would be easy to narrow it down absolutely, not like
who's doing this. It'd be like, Karen, what are you

(01:37:19):
doing out right now? You do I need to call
your dad?

Speaker 6 (01:37:23):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
Problem solved. I grew up in a town of seventy
five thousand. That happened. Hell, you would go to neighboring
towns and they would know you, yes, and I only
so I can say the name of this town is
why I'm going to say this. But we would go
to Dyke and they would know us right for whatever reason.

(01:37:51):
So I don't understand why you have to make an
announcement and you're going, well, can the police do that.
Can they ban something, Yes, and no, they can't ban it,
but they can enforce current laws like trespassing vandalism right
where maybe they'd be like, a, it's not a tpeen

(01:38:12):
law if you will, not yet, but it they can
start enforcing some of the other things around it. But
if they said, hey, tpe is illegal and then just
started doing it, well, then they have to make sure
they get every single person that does it.

Speaker 6 (01:38:27):
There be no kids in school, then I.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Don't think there's any kids in school already. If they are,
they're all in the same schoolhouse. Right, it's twenty five
hundred people. It's that's definitely K through twelve, all one,
all one building on the class size has to be
seventy kids, right, maybe, so it doesn't seem like unless

(01:38:53):
you know, they've conglomerated to some like neighboring town or something,
it's possible. I don't know if you said, I don't
think you did, but did it say like how long
this has been going on? Like has this been a
time honored tradition of Jessup, the town of Jessup, you know,
since like I don't know, the sixties or whatever. Every
homecoming during you know since nineteen sixty five, the kids

(01:39:17):
get together, you're in toilet paper houses. I mean it
doesn't say that, but growing up that was a thing,
so at least for Errot thirty plus years. Yeah, So
my thought there is like, if it's just going on
for a week, let the kids be the kids. Man,

(01:39:39):
they're not drugs. Yeah, they're not doing meth. They're just
getting toilet paper out there in your trees. And yes,
it's a giant pain in the dong to clean up.
It's terrible, but you know what, the kids are having fun.
They're not really hurting anybody.

Speaker 6 (01:39:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
The comments are great because of course it's on their
Facebook page and people like, so egging's okay?

Speaker 9 (01:40:00):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Another one, how about you enforced leash laws? Another one
pressing charges for tea peing. Uh, but you get it.
But you'll deal with that when you get a call
for domestic violence. But you can't go help them because
you're dealing with the t peers. Right. This one says
sounds like they're on a roll looking for suspects and

(01:40:23):
they won't wipe this clean until they're caught. But that's
just up stand up comedy eating right there. The only
other thing I can think is that it's happening to
like the mayor's house, somebody, the police chiefs house. Yeah
yeah right, and they're like, well, I'm the mayor. Hmm, yeah,

(01:40:45):
that would make sense. Yeah, our our town kids do
it too. It's a timeless tradition. On the other hand,
I also think that the next morning they should all
be out cleaning up the town that has been littered.
That's my complaint. I listen, our house got tepeed a
handful of times for sporting events, and probably also not Uh.

(01:41:05):
It takes a few minutes, that's it. It's not a
giant Maybe on the mornings there was dew, right, or
the mornings where they sprinkled flour on it because the
dew would then make it, yeah, more of a solidified product.
But it was not a big deal. No of the

(01:41:26):
things that I would be concerned about of them enforcing
my neighborhood, it ain't this speeding. I have to be
more concerned with speeding exactly, right. Toilet paper rain never
killed anybody. The let's see a weak toilet paper. I
remember egging somebody did bleach in the yard. Oh that one.

(01:41:47):
My dad was not happy.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
Yeah, that would have been horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
That's kind of fun. That feels dramatic. Horrible, Yeah, horrible,
like going blind. It's not horrible, it's not horrible. That's
a very dramatic response.

Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
Taking out mailboxes that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
Never really happened. That never really happened. Federal crime too,
by the way, Uh, somebody I remember forks like people
would put forks in the yard, like plastic forks, which
I never really understood. Laundry soap, liquid laundry soap. Yeah,
because it would take a few a few days. Yeah,
I just hope that there's not a rain. Yeah, that

(01:42:26):
one didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:42:26):
That one happen at the fountain at the at the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
That happens all. I mean, that's another timeless thing you
do with fountains. It's still kind of body. It's not
that funny. I mean, look, it's bubbling up. You just
go smells delicious. You ain't buying, You ain't buying fabulous. Right,
you're not getting gained for the fountain at the hospital. No,
you're not getting tied. You're getting you're getting pied, right right,

(01:42:56):
whatever the cheap knockoff you're getting ball, You're not getting gain,
you're getting lost. All right, We gotta take a break.
We'll be back.

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