Classic Gardens from August 23rd, 2025

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It's the Classic Gardens the Landscape Show on the head
Ready if you want show up plants and grass to grow.
Two docent Chris, Chris and Chris. No, Chris knows it,
Chris knows it. Chris knows it. Chris knows it.

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Chris knows it.

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Chris knows it.

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Chris knows it. Chris knows it.

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And now you're host Chris Joyner and Chris keith.

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Speaker 5 (00:49):
I'm Chris Keaton, I'm Chris Joyner. You got your caffeine
flowing through your Chris kid.

Speaker 6 (00:53):
Man, I had, I didn't have one at the house
this morning, so I had to stop right here at
the Valley Store.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah. Girls of the Valley Store. They do a great
job on everything.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
On the huge.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
Sandwich fuy Hey, yeah boy, a blowne egg and cheese
sandwich in the morning.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah from the Valley Store.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yep, yep, that's the ladies in there, got it going on. Man.
There it's one of those little country gas stations. And uh,
on my way to work, it's packed many because they
just make biscuits and and yeah in their little kitchen
in the back. Yeah. Man, it's good, good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Good stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:26):
So yeah, So on my way in to chriss, I
go grab me a coat because I didn't have one
in the fridge. And on my way out, I'll grab
me a blowne eag and cheese sandwich.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
So I'm contributing to the Valley store. We need to
sell a truck, don't we, Yeah, we do. We somebody
got a suburban.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
I don't like a car. I don't like a car
payment at all, but you know I don't I buy
a car about once every fifteen years, I think that. Yeah,
so I got a suburban for sale.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah you had to bite the bullet.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, it happens to us all, you know, eventually, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah what eventually?

Speaker 6 (02:06):
You know, my father in law is a stickler about
not having a truck with high mileage, and I'm right
at the opposite.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I'll drive a tough freaking wheels fall right, but you
hear me.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Yep, So you've got a suburban that's you know, two
hundred thousand miles dealing man, y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Two y'all stuff, yea almost twenty y'all, y'all, keep y'all.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Stuff clean as a pen. So, uh, you know, it's
full size suburban five three engine and you know, automatic
hole nine yard and all the bells and whistles on
there or whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
But it's you know, it's a baby holler.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
Yeah, you know, and uh it's got up there two
hundred twenty thousand miles and you just bit did the
plunge and bought you another one.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
So I mean we travel a lot. Yeah, I mean
just with soccer. When I say travel a lot, I
mean we're just all constantly going to you know, yeah
mobile and that two hours away stuff and my Sarah
halls all the kids and our kids and nieces and
nephew around and uh, you know, just one of them things.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
So if you gotta do it eventually, yeah, if you
want to clean subourbon with with high mileage christ.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
It looks virtually brand new. It's cosmetic. There's some cosmetic
stuff on the inside, like any any us. Oh yeah,
I keep that thing.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Kids riding around with a drink. Eventually, one of is
gonna hit the dirt.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Oh no, sir, uh uh not my kids. Really, there
was one time. Let me tell you this. Let me
tell you my this is. This is my parenting style.
This has been several years ago. I was I was
detailing the inside. I washed the cars probably once a
week and then maybe once a month. I mean, I'll
take everything, every single thing out, and I'll go through
there and I'll clean everything.

Speaker 7 (03:43):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
A couple of times a year, I'll get our carpet
cleaner out, clean the carpet. That's how I like. I
like a clean car a couple I don't know when
a couple of years ago, I was cleaning out the
back seat and there was like cheese itt wrappers, oh lord,
and skittles and that kind of stuff just kind of
scattered on the you know, up under the seat and
on the floor and everything.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Thing.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
And uh, I went upstairs and I snatched my children
and I said, come on, girls. I wouldn't mean about it.
I said, come on, girls, And they say they stayed
down there and they helped me clean that entire car
and it took four or five hours. But they've never
done it again ever since then. They take all the
when they get out, they get all their trash and
there's a trash can in my garage and they put

(04:20):
their trash right in the right in the trash can,
you know. So I got to teach them responsibility right
right there. Same with same with eating on the couch.
Like okay, I don't you know if sometimes we'll have
movie night or whatnot, we'll have a TV trays that
we sit in front of the couch and they can
eat there. But when it comes to like yogurt or
popsicles or spaghetti stuff like that, they know they know

(04:45):
better than that.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
So it sounds like I'm hard on my kids, but
I mean not really. They just it's teaching you.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
They get it right, get.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
It, that's right. And you know when we get you know,
go out to restaurants and stuff, people compliment, you know,
they say yes ma'am, yes sir, and thank you and
hold the door for you know people and whatnot. So
I just feel like you just talk.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
You just taught them common zen. How about that, Chris?

Speaker 6 (05:13):
So right now, you know, looking at you know, the
seven or ten day fortcast or whatever it looks like
for all.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Men, come on, now I'm gonna go ahead and tell
you I'm done with summer.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
You know, I think every year that I age, I
get a little bit more done with summer.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I mean, I think I've sweated enough the past like
six weeks to for the rest of the year.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
I don't think I can take it like I used to. Man,
call me a call me a woods or whatever. But
I mean, I just I don't know. It's just getting
a little tougher. So, uh So that being said, obviously
we want you to call in eight five four four
thousand and five and get on the books to do landscaping.
We've been a little slow this summer and be honest

(05:55):
with you. So we'd like to, you know, get y'all
ramped up. So to call us eight five four four
thousand and five and get us on the books. You know,
we're landscaping, irrigation, if you need not lighting, if you
need a forest, multi land clearing, if you want a
patio or a taina wall built, uh you know, call
us now, we're not that busy. We can jump on

(06:16):
it pretty quick for you.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Ten day forecast, man, I'm liking it. We're going down
into the upper seventies. For the highs. That's what I'm saying.
I'm out, So, I mean, I'm liking that.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Point being made.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
That's you know, virtually right at the end of August,
you know, labor days next weekend. We want work Monday.
So if you come to the garden center, obviously we're
closed on Mondays right now anyways, but if you come
into the garden Center, uh, you'll have to come on Wednesday,
like normal hours Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
But y'all call us.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Anyway if you need landscaping done, well we'll get you know,
somebody will call you back and we'll get you on
the books for that stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
You know, landscaping and planting plants. Chris, we've preached this
how long we been doing this radio show thirty years forever,
you know, and we've been preaching that like fall is
the best time to plant plants. It's right opposite.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
Well, I'm saying, run to my head and said, hey, look,
what would you you know if you just said now
here in Alabama we landscape three hundred and sixty five
days a year, So it doesn't matter if it's you know,
twenty to five degrees outside or it's ninety five degrees outside.
We're constantly landscaping. Plants are under your care for the

(07:30):
first two years. It doesn't make any difference whether you
plan them in August or whether you plan them in
you know, January, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Make any difference.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
So well, that being said, you're gonna go through spells
where it's hot and dry, You're gonna through spells where
it's cold. You're gonna go through spells where it's rainy.
You know you're gonna have here in Alabama, our our
climate fluctuates so much till there ain't a good There
ain't a bad time to do landscaping.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
You do it anytime you want to.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
If you think about it this way, I mean, they
build houses every day, it doesn't matter whether it doesn't
matter what time of year it is. A house is
being finished. And when they get done with that house,
what do they do. They go in there, They scratch
it down the flat. They nine times out of ten,
they lay you know, you saw it on top of chirt,
rock or gravel or whatever's there, and they plant you

(08:19):
bushes and whatever's left, and the shrubs make it. You know,
So you got to know that you can plant shrubs
three hundred sixty five days a year. Now, if you
put a gun to my head and said, Chris, when
would be your favorite time of year to plant shrubs?
I would say right now. The reason being, you're going

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into September. Yeah, it's hot, yet it's still gonna be dry.
You know, we're going to our driest months a year.
But you know it's hot, you know it's dry, and
you're gonna take care of it because it's fresh on
the brain. So you go through the next six months,
next six weeks or so, and you water everything thoroughly.
And then and uh, once you get past that little
six or eight week time frame, guess what we get

(09:04):
into our rainy season. Once we get the first sec
that week of November, it starts raining, no quit to May.
So you don't even have to worry about watering for
the next, you know, six months after that. So you're
already about four you're already about you know, eight, nine
months into the game. Granted you get around that next May,
you know you're gonna have to hit a dry spell

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or two. It'll get a little hotter and you'll have
to start watering again, but you're not gonna have to
water near as much at that stage of the game
as you will say when you first start, and you know,
first put those plants in the ground. So now's a
great time to start planting. And we'd love to get
you on the books.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
You can call our office Monday through Friday, Jenny and
they're in their answer in the phones eight five four
four thousand and five, and get on the books for
landscaping long Cares the same way right now, Chris Keith.
You know, we're getting into we're getting into that time
of the season where you know, temperatures are dry and
you got to get your pre merging down to head
off all your poanna hen bit chick weed, basically all

(10:06):
the stuff that you're gonna see.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
All the stuff you hate, like March.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
You know. You know, yards may be clean right now,
maybe maybe not, depending on who's taking care of it,
but if you don't start doing something right now, come
next spring, it's going to be a disaster.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
We always have people call us in, like you know,
March and say, hey, I've got this sticker weed all
in my yard, you know, and I've got to you know,
what can I do to kill it? And you can't
even walk around in the yard because you got you know,
all these stickers in the yard and all this stuff, well,

(10:41):
all that stuff that you hate in the spring, you know,
old purple hend bit and all that stuff that comes
up looks like turn green patching yr. If you want
to hit all that stuff off, that stuff starts germinating
when these temperatures start dipping down in the upper fifties.
Well guess what that's next week. So you got to
get your pre merging out, come in the garden center

(11:01):
and get the back of gold. You only gotta do
it twice a year, and so you put that stuff
out in September, you put it out in March, and
you're good to go.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Better. Yet, we could come out and put it out
for you. Yeah, I bet we're putting out We're putting
out the gold, the gold juice right now.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
That is even the better option, because, man, if you
call the garden center eight five four four thousand and five, Chris,
come out there a measure yard, and it'll give you
a price and start taking care of it. And let
me tell you, the price versus you buying the stuff
and putting it out and us doing it for you
is virtually the same. I mean it's pennies on the

(11:36):
dollar difference and you can kick back and not have
to worry about it. It's gonna get done because we
ain't gonna miss We're gonna be there every month.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
We'll talk about a guy that missed their premergent when
we come back from this next break.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Yeah, I remember that, dude. Yeah Yeah, We'll be right back.
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Where he ball my flowers gone, No cloud spisyne, where
headball my flowers gone, no fur too long? Where the
ball my flowers gone turned to dust by the summer

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sun as I just watched them burn someday day.

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My which.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
And we're back on the Classic Guards The Landscape Show
and Chris uh Man. We've really been fortunate I mean
we've hit a few dry spells or whatever, and there's
still parts of town Like I was. We're now working
in uh Hoover, Vestavia, Ish area the other day and
that's pretty freaking dry down.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Yeah, it's hitting miss or some spots or powdery you know.
I mean even like the couple it flooded like like
you know, Noah's Ark at your house, yep, And it
didn't even get under the didn't get even get didn't
even get wet under my truck that day.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
You know, it was crazy, but I got two and
a half inches of rain in about an hour and
a half. I mean it's like God poured a bucket
on my head. It was like, I mean, it came
down like crazy. And yeah, it got to uh the
garden center the next morning and there wasn't even a
drop in the rain. Gage I get to my job
in Homewood at the Gilberts and it's rained like two

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inches there and uh, we wind up having to wash
mud out of than I'm a good thing.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Every every time.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
We leave a job for a day to come back
to the job, we do a pretty good job of
cleaning everything up, you know, just really blow everything off.
And make sure it's it's we're not leaving a mess overnight.
And but it rained so much. We went on in
the on the Gilbert shod and so like they had

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a little slope. It's pretty minor. If it was, in
my opinion, I would have just kept mowing it. But
they didn't want to mow that that area, that little
bit of slope or whatever. So we went in there
and Hearty wrecked all the all the grass off of
it and took all the we'd already sprayed it was
round up. You sprayed it, and I sprayed it again,
and uh went in there and Harty wrecked all the

(18:21):
all the grass off of it and uh planting uh
jasmine vines on on the side of the hill. So
now it's just been a groundcover on the on the
side of that slope. And then we ran in put
new foundation shrubs all over the place. We had a
big plan we're going to do for the Gilberts. I mean,
it was a big job. We were going to go
in there and and shave a third of the yard

(18:42):
off and literally go in there and make build a
rock wall for like another parking pad and all this stuff.
And they had this big elaborate plan, and I mean
it was pretty and it was going to be pretty too,
and the City of home Wood just wouldn't go for it,
wouldn't let us get permitted, so you know, we squashed that.
So we wound up just doing uh, you know, a

(19:03):
small landscaping job for him.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Took us a couple of days, but we were in
there and out.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
But point being, we had to go in there and
and you know, pressure wash the street and everything else
because some of that dirt had slid you know, off
the off the side of that hill and down in
the road. So we had to clean that stuff up
that next day. So you can't ever tell, let's hit
and miss all over. But for the most part, we
haven't been in a heavy dry spell by any stretch,

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and uh most, for the most part, of the yards
looked really good this year.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah, have been growing like crazy. Yeah, there's no doubt
about that. I guess Gilbert treats his yard himself. We
used to treat his yard years ago, but I guess
he's do it yourself for now.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
The yard looked pretty good. Yeah, I mean in that
slope maybe had some chinch bugs in it last year
because there were some dead patches in it.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
But I'll have to give him across it kind of
hard right there too. You know, we were hardly raking
that off. There's a spot right there it gets pretty charity,
real shallow, so that may have been the may have
been part of it right there.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
I'll give my a quote for us to come out
there and treat it, because it's easy to forget, Chris Keith.
I mean, once upon a time, once upon a time,
like we knew a guy that forgot to do his
as in me. I think I used to treat my
yard myself, and uh uh it was at the it

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may have been the first year. So let's back the
story up right. We were talking about sticker weed. Yeah,
and I think I've experienced every nightmare in my yard
that you could throw at, you know, both my yards,
my first house we went we lived at. Uh, I
missed a treatment in the fall, and I had a
big garden kind of like you, not as high tech
as you, but I had a thousand square foot garden

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in my backyard. And I was walking back there late spring,
and I was barefoot, and I was going to just
kind of tell do this pedal around in it, and
I'm stepping and I look and I.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
See all that.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
It's called burwed. It forms it, it germinates, now grows
through the winter, pops up in spring, and then it
forms the seed head. And that seedhead is soft at first,
but when it dries out, it's like it's like a
little tiny ball with metal spikes all over there. I'm
telling you what, these things will hurt. And so I'm
walking barefoot through my yard. I stopped because I'm picking

(21:23):
them out of my feet, and I look around and
it's like it's like a sea of burrowed all over
all over the place. I'm like, well, heck man, I
can't there's no way out. I gotta I gotta suck
it up.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
And run right, like running out into hot coals.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
That's right. And so I just I just, you know,
I just I gritted it and I took off running,
and uh, you know, had to pick all the burrs
out of my feet by the time I got back
to the to the garage. So after that, I stayed
on top of treating my old yard. And it took
me about two years. If you have a bad stand
of that bir weed, uh and you start on pre

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mergent right now, You'll catch like ninety percent of it
with pre emergent. And then if you see you know
that ten percent, if you see a little bit coming
up here and there, when the temperatures get cooler, you
come in with a weed free zone and spot spray
it and uh and that will pay. That will keep
it in check. So then the spring you won't have
to deal with it. So fast forward to when we

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bought this house. Uh, I missed my pre mergent one September.
It's kind of one of those things like, oh yeah,
I'll just I'll bring some stuff. I'll bring them back
of gold home and uh and do it. And then
next thing you know, I'm meeting Sarah swapping out kids
going to the soccer field, going to cheer something like that,
and uh, I forgot to do my six. Chris Keith

(22:41):
throws up in here in like late March and calls
me out on it, and he's like, man, Chris, the
heck you got all that Poeanna in your yard for
And I kind of like tuck tailed then put my
head down like a like a shame dog. And I
was like, man, I forgot, And like.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
Jesus Christ, you run a freaking long chap and what
the hell is going on?

Speaker 4 (23:02):
You got poana everywhere?

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Oh well, you know what I got on our long
care program. And we don't forget right, Yeah, and uh
that's basically what we treat ma yard. And uh, once
poana comes up, it's hard to kill.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, you go back and try to spot
spray it. It's time.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, man, you have to catch that stuff when it's real,
real small. And uh, if you forget your pre mergent,
you know, in the September time frame, you're gonna you're
gonna freaking regret it. Yeah, you know, come March, April
and May, because all that stuff is gonna be growing
like crazy until our temperatures get hot. Poana will usually
die out. It doesn't die out until, you know, we're
starting to hit eighty five degrees constantly or continuously during

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the night and you're mowing like crazy, and it's just
it's a nightmare. It grows, It grows really, really good
in like late March, April and and beginning of May. Well,
at that point in time, your grass really isn't growing fast,
and so like the weeds are growing up, putting on seedheads,
and it's just it just makes your yard ugly. So
you got to get on a pre emergent program starting

(24:07):
right now to head all this stuff off in the spring.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
And what bothers me the worst is like, you know,
when you get on one of those yards and it's
like there's purple hen bit everywhere here.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
You do not like hen bit.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
I just man a big head. You know, your grass.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
When your grass is healthy, when your yard looks like
Khaki like all over, that's when it's right. When you've
got you know, chick weed and you got hend bit
and you got all that big stuff that just comes
up and you know, it just covers your whole yard.
I think it drives me more nuts, Chris, because I

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used to have people like bring me sacks full of
it in the garden center.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
And the weeds are eight yeah, and they're like I.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Need something to kill this, you know, and they want
this magic cure, you know, to kill these weeds that
are like a tall in there yard. And I said,
cut your freaking grass. I mean, what are you doing.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Right that one?

Speaker 6 (25:06):
It's that one you gotta mow, like get all this
stuff up. I say, then we give you a little
something right here. This weed freeze on. But you're gonna
have to wait till the weeds come back up just
a little bit, because it doesn't It doesn't work on
these big weeds that look like you know, they've been
growing for four months out there. So you cut all

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that stuff down. Then you gotta wait for it to
grow up just a little bit, and then you spread
it when it's small and it'll wipe out the brunt
of that stuff. But the key is a pre emergent.
I mean, you gotta start on the pre emergent. You
gotta start right now to head off all that stuff
that you will have, you know, in in February, March,
April May. That's just competing with your grass when your

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Ready to come when you'll want, show up, Lance and
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And now you're a host, Chris Joiner and Chris Keith.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
Andy, we're back on the Classic Gardens the Landscape Show.
Our number on the show, we hadn't even give out
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Speaker 5 (27:12):
I like it? Did I hear you and Anne talking
about collars and broccoli.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
The other day?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I sure did?

Speaker 6 (27:17):
I said, man, boy, I told her, I said, uh,
I said, hey, it's bumping. September first, and uh, we
got to get some broccoli in the ground.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Sure enough.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
We don't have fall betting plants hip because it is
still summer. It's still one hundred degrees this past week, man,
But that's on the cusp. They'll probably growers will probably
be sending out availability list for some of the fall
vegetables and fall betting plants. So it's right around the corner.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
I went.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
I jumped the gun last year and I aced it.
You know, it's like you didn't jump on the first pitch,
but boy, the second one looked pretty and you just
slammed it out of the park. Well that's what I
did last year. And I'm right at the first versus September.
Last year, I planted in my broccoli, I planted my collars,
and I planted my turn greens, and I knew it

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was a little bit early, but I said, man, it's
so if you really want that stuff to do good,
you don't wait until it's you know, middle October to
plant that stuff because it needs the heat and all
to start growing and you know, put on good growth.
So you want your plants in the ground early as possible.

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So first second week of September you need to go
ahead and get your broccoli in your collars or any
of your fall and you calliflower or any of that stuff,
go ahead and get that planning. And then you got
about three weeks where it's still warm and it's hot,
and that stuff grows for you real well. But if
you wait until you get into middle of October, you're
only gonna have two or three weeks you know, hot weather,

(28:49):
and then you know it's gonna turn cold, and it
just kind of it never gets off the ground. So
last year, I put mine in about the first of September,
and man, I had the beefest, prettiest broccoli you've ever seen.
I mean I grew like heads of broccoli that were like,
you know, ten or twelve inches across, and uh I
had cabbage out there. I picked one cabbage that weighed

(29:10):
like twelve pounds.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Like the size of a bake.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
I mean, everything was like I was killing it, you know.
And uh so I told her, I said, man, go
ahead and order me some some broccoli plants and uh
some college and all that stuff. So yeah, that's the key,
I mean, get a And what I did is I
used mill organize around them because I've got deer walking
around my house like dogs, and uh, so put the

(29:34):
mill organize out there, and it's just like you put
up a fence. I mean, they didn't touch anything, and
uh and it fertilizes and it fertilized or deep green
and pretty and everything just going nuts. And uh kept
all the kept all the critters out of there and
all that, and man, it just it killed it.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Chris Keith Garden is eighth wonder of the world.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Let me tell you that. And I'm telling me what
I got to do though.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Half a bucket full of ochre out there, I'm gonna
be frying.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
I got a whole another sack in the truck.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
I mean, it's just like, yeah, okra is one of
those things you can plant like ten seeds and have
more ocre than you can give away everybody.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
On the black and the hotter it gets, the faster
it grows. Maup that stuff.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
I took a picture of that stuff out there. One day.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
My sister called me and she said, Chris, what is
that blooming that's so pretty in your garden? And I said,
that's the ochre. She's like, Man, when I went by
there earlier, I was like seventy blooms on that.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
I said, oh, yeah, I took a picture of it earlier.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
I mean it was just like they look like high
biscus balloomes and they're kind of a kind of a
lime yellow color and there it is beautiful, and I
took a picture of it, and I said, yeah, I
just popped a picture of it because.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
It was so pretty.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
But She's like, now I can't believe that Ochre is
doing that good. I was like, man, it's so tall.
Now I have to like grab it and like bend
it over it the tops of it. It's crazy.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
You talk about hibiscus, Chris Keith. I've got some annual
hibiscus that I've gotten some flower pots around here. And
you want to know something that squirrels will absolutely completely
eat every leaf off of dad gum hibiscus. Really, yes,
I've got one out there and I don't. And then
how you know it's how you know it?

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Squirrels?

Speaker 5 (31:20):
I want to know for a fact. Yeah, because I've
got I've got I've got two on my back deck
in big pots, the high biscuits and uh, and you'll
see the squirrels come down the deck rail and they'll
stop and like you're talking about picking, okre, they'll grab
that dad gum limb and they'll come over there and
they'll pick the leaves and they'll they'll eat the leaves
off of it. And I'll tell Sadie, I like say,
you go beat on the door real quick, and she'll
start beating on the door and run out there and

(31:41):
chase them off. A couple of years ago, my neighbor Uh,
he squirrel hunts, and I was like, man, you can
come in my backyard anytime, because those little rodents will
tear up so much stuff. I mean, you want to
talk about plastic pots, plastic buckets. You know, they get
on your roof, they'll eat. They'll eat through the vents
and getting the attic and you know the exalt, the

(32:04):
vent pipes on top of the house. They'll eat that
kind of stuff. And so I got to get my
neighbor ben. I got to get him back out here
squirrel hunting this year because he's got to deplete the
population because the only good thing I will say is
they'll eat all the hickory nuts. You know, I've got
a bunch of hickories in my backyard. So the squirrels
will take care of the hickory nuts, but by god,
they'll eat everything else but the high biscus. Man, they

(32:24):
ate one, ate every single leaf off of it.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Yeah, I don't know. I guess it's just a sweet
leaf to them or something. But man, they tore it up.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Man, you're talking about high biscus. Ann who's got some
in the garden center? You see that one that she
got planted out there by the mailbox.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Is that the purple leaf one. One's got dark leaves.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
On the dark leaves, But she got one.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
I planted one in a pot for a lady out there,
and trust well, I did some. She got pots around
her pool, and I plant her bed and plants and
her pots for and I used one of them. One
of the pots is like three foot across, you know,
So I had to have something big in there, and
it's on the pool decks.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
She wanted that big. They're tropical, you know.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
So I put like a grass in one, then I
put a high biscuits in the other one, and then
I put you know, something else big in the third.
They got three that are like staggered, like huge, still
pretty big, you know, real big, and then kind of
smaller right together, and I put one of those high
biscuits in that thing, and man, it has went freaking

(33:28):
crazy and got blooms all over it. But Anne's got
one planted by the mailbox at the garden Center, and
I bet you that thing yesterday had twenty ballooms on it.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
And those blooms will be like all this the small
saucer plate all the way up to dinner plate, big blooms.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
But she's got some of the garden Center for sale,
and uh so, yeah, I get in there and get
you on the high biscuses. Man, they are pretty.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
We planted one of those at my in law's house
when y'all landscaped it in a flower here. That's been
twenty years ago. Yeah that was before I was dating Sarah.
Yeah we've been married sixteen, but together twenty ish.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
We put in a bunch of keystone blocks and dog.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
That was years a long time ago, planting Atlantana. That
still comes back every year. That stuff gets twelve fifteen
feet tall. But they had it late that We put
a high biscuits in one of the pots and it's
changed pots over the years, but that high biscuits still
comes back every single year.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yep, there's a lot aniles.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
It's not like it's not like the high biscuits that
I'm talking about that the squirrels are eating. That's one
that they'll buy. Like, we don't sell those. I think
I got a buddy that has a little far, little
roadside market and they sell a lot of those annual
tropical plants and they sell meat and stuff like that,
and I bought a couple of those from him, and uh,
but that's the ones that we sell at the garden
Center are perennials, so they come back every year. And uh,

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you want to talk about pretty blooms, many are? They
are spectacular?

Speaker 6 (34:53):
Yeah, and they're tough too. I mean, you get in
one of these, get in one of these spells where
it gets a little dry or whatever, you forget the
water on. Even if you got one in the pot,
you know it'll it'll forgive you and uh it, man,
they do a good job. There's a lot of pretty
plants in the garden Center right now. I mean they're
there's probably an as a stickler for high drangers and
there's probably about thirty different varieties in the garden center.

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Obviously the encoorzellias started blaming about for the second time
about a month ago. And you know, depending on the variety,
some of them started a little earlier than others, and
many every one of thems got color on them right now.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
I mean, they're gorgeous.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
So if you want and our our azaleas in the
garden Center are in the greenhouse, so man, they are
just they've been flushing and and there you go, buy
a three gallon of zella at the garden Center. It
looks like you bought one that's you know, been in
the been, you know, groomed for three more years than
everybody else is. So uh, they're going crazy right now.

(35:52):
So get in there. If you need landscape shrubs. If
you don't, you don't buy them, I'll be planting them.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I continue that.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yep.

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Speaker 4 (40:20):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I'm very well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
How are you guys?

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Good? How can we help you this morning?

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I have some Laura Peddlum and I wanted to know
what's the best time of the year was to trim them.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
They're just about ain't a bad time, so anytime they're
actively growing. So if you say somewhere around the first
of April to about September, what happens is if you
so we getting to the point right now, like late
in the late August, uh where if you trim something,

(40:59):
I'll be sleep. When you trim it, it encourages new growth. Well,
any new growth that jumps out there has got to
have time to harden off. What we call hardened off,
which basically if you have new tender growth, Uh, it's
got to actually go through a two month process before
you get a freeze or whatever. What happens is it'll

(41:20):
it'll just burn it off. It wouldn't kill the plant,
but what it'll do is it just burn the new
foliage off of it. So we're almost to the point.
So like right now, we're third week of August. So
if you want to print them, go ahead and do it.
Don't do any severe printing, just shave them up a
little bit. But if you trim them, say if you

(41:41):
trim them late September, what happens is they'll flush new
growth and the new growth to get burnt off by
the first frost or freeze that we get. So you
want to whatever you do, you want to do it
as fast as possible. That's really pretty much for any shrubs,
all right.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
That sounds good.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Also, have a large banana plant, now that's kind of
taking over.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Is there a better what's the best way to divide those?

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Just dig them up and there's no bad ways.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
It's not a bad way.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
So you just kind of remove two thirds of it
every few years. What that that someone ist like a
tuber or whatever, but that or like a big bulb,
but that thing will just continue to get broader and
broader and broader. So about every couple three years, you
go in there and you know, just take take you know,

(42:36):
two thirds of it out to kind of thin.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
It, okay when it's coming up, because it's a lot smaller.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Than Yeah, I mean, yeah, you would. It'd be tough
to do that now, so you can wait till the
spring when it starts coming back out. I still don't
think you would be You wouldn't be hurting anything if
you did. Now, you can't kill you can't hardly kill them.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Yeah, what's these things get established, It's pretty tough to
kill them. But you yeah, when you see it coming
out in the spring, you'll know kind of where where
the basically the main part of it is and you
can just kind of remove everything around it.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Okay that sounds good.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Alrighty, well, thank you so.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Much, Yes, ma'am, no problem, and yeah that U so, yeah,
right now you want to we're to the point where
if you want to do any last minute pruning, you
know you need to do that, like right now, because
what happens is, like I was saying, and the new
growth would be tender coming back on the new plants.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Most of the time, you won't kill them.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
It just makes them look unsightly because you know, you
they flush that new growth and it just turns that
new foliage black one.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
And like you said, nothing freeze, nothing heavy. I mean,
you're just kind of shaping things up. You don't want
to take a six foot lower pedal on and take
it down to three feet right now or Holly's. You
don't want to do that to them. You're really just
kind of kind of getting them in check, giving them
a light haircut. Most of your heavy, you heavy pruning,
you'd come in and do next, you know, next spring.
That way will give it time to flush back.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
I had a lady call me the other day that
I've done a little work for over in McDonald farm
here in Springville, Chris, and she was saying, I want
my azaleas cut back, And I told her, I said, look,
you know all her azeggas are formosa azaleas to their
old fashioned azaleas, and those old fashioned azaleas, if you
prune them after the first of July, then you're pruning

(44:26):
off next year's blooms. So I thought, I ain't much
you can do about them right now. You know, you
should have called me two months ago kind of thing.
But you know, so you just have to be careful
on what you're trimming. And you know, different varieties of
high draine, just some of them, you know, you have
to prune right after they're done blooming.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
You know these limelight hydranges that are out there now,
you can prune them just about whenever you want to,
and it doesn't make any difference. What happens is it'll
just kind of set the set the blooming cycle back.
So a lot of times you've got varieties of those
things that that will bloom kind of a pink color
or a red color.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
And the key to that is is.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
The lower uh, the lower I'm not trying to say them,
the shorter daytime hours uh would trigger those things to
bloome that different color. So you have to prune them
a little later in the spring then you typically would
That way at offsets the blooming cycle to a little

(45:25):
bit later in the season.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
Hydrangers are not cutting dry when it's blooming.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Very it's very particular, you know, depends on the variety,
depends on the variety. It's, uh, they prune if if
they bloom after May, you can prune them in the spring.
If they bloom before May, you got to prune them
after they're done blooming. That's right, I mean, it's it's
a little more complicated with with high dranges.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
The the lime lights really showed out this year. Boy,
I I mean, I don't mind started blooming. I feel
like three months ago and they hadn't quit. Yeah. Uh,
the rain that we had really showed out. And we've
got some in the garden center. They get and when
after we water, they get so heavy the branches. Those
things just sag almost all the way to the ground
because the blooms are so big on those things. Absolute

(46:09):
limelights are one of my favorites. Yeah, full sun too.
That's one of those hydrangers you can plant in the
middle of a parking lot and as long as you
keep it water, it loves it.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
You keep it watered for the first three or four
months or whatever. Once that thing sets its feet, it
don't matter if it's like a desert, they'll do just fine.
It's crazy how how good they'll do out in the
full sun. Now, those bloom struck hydranges and stuff like that.
You really need some afternoon shade for those things. But
that's another one that will bloom all the time. And
the cool thing about the endless summer or the bloomstruck

(46:42):
hydrange is it doesn't matter when you prune them. They'll
you know, they'll flush back. They bloom on new and
old wood, so it really doesn't make any difference. So,
I mean, hydrange is a little tricky on that stuff.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah, for prune and a yet it just depends. So well, Chris,
we're coming up on the end of the show shortly,
and I just I want to stress the importance of
pre merging and getting that down on your yard as
soon as you can, because you're going to head off
all the nasty winter weeds that are going to be
coming up mowing. You really got to stay on top
of mowing. Uh you probably saw my yard coming up.

(47:15):
We got behind. We missed it. We missed a week,
maybe about a week and a half, and we had
to get our bermuda to cut back down and it
it turned it brown in a lot of spots. But
you don't want to go into the winter months with
your grass too tall because that will end up getting
laid over and that'll cause you issues uh in the
in the coming spring. So if you if like a

(47:36):
lot of people, if you're on location or you got
rained out for mowing and the grass got three four
inches tall, you need to start, you know, slowly lowering
that stuff back down to you know, that inch and
a half two inch mark, uh, to prepare it for
the fall. This time of year, for for long care,
it's it's all about preparation, you know, making sure your
yard is as healthy as it can be before we

(47:57):
get into the winter months, making sure you get your
pre merging out, head off all the winter weeds, staying
on top of the watering. You know, Like we said earlier,
it's really been hit and miss. There's areas that have
gotten great rain, areas that have not. And one of
the misconceptions I see, particularly as we go into the
you know, through September, which it gets really really hot
and dry, people start to see their yards turn brown

(48:20):
and they just think, oh, well, it's starting to go dormant. Well,
if we hadn't had rain in three weeks, that's far
from far from the case. So stay in tune with mowing, watering,
and your applications to make sure your yard stays healthy
going into the winter months.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
And you also want to make sure you know you're
on top of insects. I mean, just because we go
into the fall months or whatever, there's still insect issues
that will come up. You know, we obviously have had
a big problem with chinch bugs. But you get into
this fall and you know, you grass looks like it's
going dormant or whatever. You may have a grub issue.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Could be sure, pittle bugs have been popping up.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
You don't want your grass going dormant with grubs because
what happens is, I mean they're eating the roots off
of and you're thinking, oh, it's just you know, it's
it's going dormant for the winter. And the next spring
you come out and you got all this root damage
and all that stuff, and it takes months to recover
from that. So you've just really got to stay on
top of it. The thing about it is is you

(49:19):
don't have to stay on top of it. All you
got to do is call us and we'll stay on
top of it. Call us eight five four four thousand
and five, and let Chris come out there and measure
that thing for you, and we'll jump right on it.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
You know, if you know you're doing everything right, like
you know you're mowing properly, you know your water and well,
you know you irrigation system works, and you've got brown
spots popping up in the yard, there's a problem and
you got to have expert diagnosis for that. And that's
where we come in.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yep, easy breezy, y'all.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Call us eight five four four thousand and five. We'd
love to come out and do landscaping for you. If
you need a irrigation, if you need long care, any
of that stuff, call us eight five four four thousand
and five. We'd be glad to come out and do
it for you. And uh, we'll see you next week
on the Classic Guards of Landscape Show. And hope if
everybody has a great labor.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Day, and uh we'll be right back on the Classic
Guards of Landscape Show.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
H m hmmmm.