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July 19, 2025 • 50 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
It's the Classic Gardens and Landscape Show on them Ready
and when you want show up plants and grass to
grow up?

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Two percent?

Speaker 5 (00:22):
Chris, Chris and Chris. No, Chris knows it. Chris knows it.
Chris knows it. Chris knows it. Chris knows it. Chris
knows it. Chris knows it.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
See, Chris knows it.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
And now you're a host. Chris Joyner and Chris.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Keth, Good morning, Welcome the Classic Arts a Landscape Show
on w e r C.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
I'm Chris King, I'm Chris Joiner. Hey, seventies models, trucks
and eighty models.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Men.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
They don't make them like that anymore, do they?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Am true? Oh man, we're just talking.

Speaker 7 (01:00):
So this is a classic Gardens and Landscape show or
number if you want to call us, it's two O
five four three nine nine three seven two. Before we
started the show, we were complaining about UH trucks and
how we think we feel like we just need to
go back and get like a seventies model F five
hundred and you know, five speed.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Dump truck to work out of us.

Speaker 7 (01:24):
And you know we're gonna you know, can the can
the the two thousand and fifteen, two thousand and above
and above stuff and go back old school, because it
seems like every time we turn around, we've got a
truck in the shop. Right now, I think we've got
two in the shop and we just got yours out
of the shop.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Yeah, and we keep we And I'm telling you, like
we keep our trucks like in I mean, we mat
you want to talk when you want to talk about
like scheduled maintenance, we do scheduled maintenance, you know. Uh uh,
you know we'd spend all our downtime maintaining equipment. When
something's broke, we fix it. We do. And not just
that like preventative maintenance. I mean we're we're constantly, you know,

(02:06):
doing stuff just to try to make sure everything is
in top work in order, you know, even just even
from just washing them, washing them and keeping them clean.
You know, it's it's, uh, that's what we've always done,
you know, since day one. But I mean, gosh, man,
I like, so my truck had a. It's diesel, and
it's got a death system on it, you know, exhaust fluid.
And I was I was doing aeration, and I had

(02:29):
to before I went to do aeration. It was one
of those things I had some yards like in Springville,
and so I went ahead and just took the trailer
home with me. Uh. I dropped the kids off at
my mother in last house be cause Sarah was working
that day. And I'm turning the trailer around and as
I'm as I'm backing up, I see I see like
smoke coming off the side of my truck. And Caroline's like, Dad,

(02:51):
your truck smoking. And I'm like, oh gosh, yeah, I
see that. So I put it in park real quick,
hit the you know, put the parking brake on. I
jump out, I start, and by the time I get around,
there's no more there's no more smoke. I'm looking looking
looking out and seeing anything. So I backed the trailer
back down to where I, you know, normally park, and
I see it coming out again. I jump out real quick.

(03:13):
I run around and I'm looking and I and there's
like a little injector that goes into the side. I
guess it's a catalytic converter right before the exhaust, and
that shoots death fluid in there to you know, for emissions,
and that that that injector, I guess it had a
crack in it, and so that death fluid was spraying
out of it, and it it caked up death It

(03:35):
fluid is basically like your EA, and so it crystallized.
And the heat from that exhaust whenever I, you know,
got going a lot, it would heat it up to
the point where it would start smoking. And so, uh,
I had to take that to the shop and get
that fixed. Not long before that, I want to, like,
our R F one fifty personal vehicle air conditioner quit working.

(03:55):
So I check all the fuses, I check all the
relays and everything right. So I look down and there's
a clutch on the front of the compressor, and that
clutch wasn't kicking on. So, you know, I'm thinking, Okay, well,
maybe that's obviously you know, either compressor's bad. Clutch is bad. Well,
the dagum things in the middle of the engine, so
you have to take like the entire top side of

(04:17):
that engine apart just to get to the compressor clutch,
and just a just a nightmare, not a couple of
years ago. Right here I go again. We're talking about
like newer model cars. Our suburban has a little oil
pressure sensor on it, oil sending unit or something, I
don't know. I don't know what it's called. But basically

(04:37):
it as the engines running, it splashes up oil onto
the sensor to make sure that the oil level is
at the right level. Well, it's got a little filter
in it, and so the oil has to splash up
through that basically through that filter to hit that sensor
will over time, you know, sediment and everything will clog
that filter up, and so then your oil pressure basically

(04:58):
just reads zero. Is that is that little Is that
little sensor in a spot where it's easy to get?
Oh heck no. I was laid up on top of
the engine, my arm like shoulder deep down into this
uh down into the engine like fiddling with this thing
trying to get You had to have a socket, you
had to have an extension, and then you had to

(05:20):
have a uh a swivel. Yeah, that thing.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I replaced it on my truck.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
It's uh, this little part is about as big as
a spark blood.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
And so my brother in law used to have an
old Cheyenne pickup truck, and man, you could you could
take a lawn chair and you could set that thing
down into the engine compartment, do anything you wanted to
have had as much room as you can as you needed.
So you think I'm still hanging on, I'm just I'm
just complaining.

Speaker 7 (05:48):
Yeah, way, we've been venting ever since I walked in
the door.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
But my glasses, my glasses is full today because man,
it's uh this summer. Yeah, grass is growing, everything's still blooming.
We got a little sneaky dry, you know, past two weeks. Yeah,
but we got some rain yesterday, which I think gave
us a little relief in some spots, and we'll probably
get sneaky dry again.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
You know where I was at and it did not
rain on me, did not and leeds, it didn't rain
a drop.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
We were in Homewood yesterday, or I was in Homewood
fertilizing yards and Anne sent me a video of it
flooding at the garden center and I looked up and
I took a picture of the sunshine and I set
up to the sunshine's in full force. Not long after that,
it came a heck of a flood.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:37):
I mean this week we've been at David Dobbs and
thank goodness, or we were there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and
thank goodness, we had three really nice days to work
and we're able to get his done. He has he
bought a golden rain tree from us at the Garden
Center like thirty years ago, and this golden rain tree

(06:58):
has been down there in his yard with like a
nice rock wall around the around the circumference of that
thing for the whole time it's been there. And uh,
somebody talked him into putting monkey grass around that thing.
So like when I say monkey grass, it's like it's
the twelve hundred square feet of monkey grass. And uh,

(07:21):
so he wanted to get rid of that monkey grass.
So we went in there and we took all that
monkey grass up and put in emeralds. Ooyasu there. Uh,
scratched all that stuff out of there. We had a
machine go down while we were over there, so we
had to get it back to the Garden Center and
uh and get that thing fixed. Luckily, we've got two

(07:41):
of those machines, so we were able to go grab
the spare one and bring it back and you know,
It's funny too. The spare one never breaks down.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
It it's the gas burner.

Speaker 7 (07:52):
It's a gas barn, not near strong, but it never
tears up the other one. It seems like we're constantly
working on the thing.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Well I'm glad. I'm glad. We're all good mechanics.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
I mean, you talk about it, David David and Anita Dobbs.
You want to talk about great customers, man, they've been
customers of ours forever. Yeah, I mean, great, great folks.
I worked on a spot in his backyard. He had
a little bad spot last summer pop up, and I've
been working on it.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
There's a couple of little rashes there about it as
big as a as big as a dinner plate.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, and it was now two car hoods. But that thing,
we've been giving it some extra attention. I'm glad to
see that that's got side and take all root right
in that spot and it and it messed it up
pretty bad, but we got it fixed.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
You got more side now.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Up on that top side he had he had some
seputate work done.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
I think that's was the deal.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
And up there on the top side of that hill
we went in they screwed up some flagstone, and we
went in there and laid flagstone back in between where
they screwed it up, you know, from one end to
the other, and uh then resided or sided on both
sides of it. Used to be like creeping Jenny and
like just old weeds, old dead nettle and stuff.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
And now it extends up. It's good zoys up there.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
You remember that old golden rain tree we had at
the garden center.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Or was that before you cut?

Speaker 7 (09:13):
Right before I showed up, and I was still killing
Probably five years later, I was still killing golden rain
trees like up in the fountain, yeah, and stuff where
they had seated and we had we'd have to cut
those blooms off every year because those love bugs would
be what we're attracted to that thing, and those love

(09:33):
bugs would come in by the millions and so and
so we used to sit up there with pole pruners,
right and uh we would It's at a certain point
we would cut all those we would cut all the.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Blooms and stuff off of them. And man, you want
to talk about wrecking your shoulders. Whow you know there's
that was everybody hates. Everybody hated doing that you can
look it's like changing the it's like changing the sign.
I hate that sign.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
Yeah, you can look at just about well you know
that back before, back before, like Osha Aliyah rolled around
or Osha rolled around and saw you doing like violations,
Like we would take the fork lift up there and
just put somebody on a palette and like raise them
up there and change the sign. And now it's like

(10:20):
somebody rides by and catches you doing that. Man, It's like,
so now we got the the stick with the stock
with the plungerr thing on it, cup on there, and
you have to reach up there and do that thing.
And by the time you get done and you feel
like you you feel like you've done CrossFit for thirty minutes,
you know.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
But uh, hey, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
I like it.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
But that that kind of led me to another thing
I just thought about, Chris. Every plant just about has
a pro and a con, and probably everything on the
planet has.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
With you know. But uh, it's like the golden rain tree.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
It's if you see one in somebody's yard when it's
in bloom, that thing is beautiful, Yes it is, you know,
the bark kind of reminds you, and the in the
structure of the tree in most cases reminds you of
a walnut tree because of just the way it grows
and the and the color and all of the bark
and everything. But it has that con that it when

(11:20):
it blooms every year, it's gonna draw a million bugs
and you know it's and it'll seed like crazy. So
that's that's a con to it.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
That's but you know, you don't see very many of them, know,
they're not many, maybe maybe about five in the state.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
Right There was a big one in downtown Spring that
was a little it was disfigured. Something happened to it.
I got it struck by lightning or something. And they
took that thing down a couple of years ago. And uh,
they always had issuesually not being able to grow grass
under it and everything else because it was so huge.
But every year when that thing bloomed, it was like, Wow,

(11:56):
that thing's all.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
Yeah, you can see it from a mile away. Yeah,
yelling balloons on him.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Prety well, Chris, we're time for a break. Let's go
ahead and do that.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
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(12:27):
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Speaker 7 (17:25):
If you need to set up in a landscape and appointment,
if you need long care, if you need drainage work. Yeah,
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a habit.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Really. People wait till it's dry to.

Speaker 7 (17:38):
Call for an irrigation system, or they wait till it's
wet to call.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
For drainage work.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
I mean, obviously it's fresh on the brain when it's
you know, when it's pouring down rain. Oh my gosh,
my yard is not draining properly, or my downspouts are
flooding the side of my house. Or they'll call you
when it hasn't rained in six weeks and say I
want an irrigation system, and it's like, you know, if

(18:07):
you call me, then I'm glad to be eight weeks
booked up, you know, So don't wait until you know
the rain quits and then holler at us and say, hey,
we need an irrigation system, go ahead and call us
now and we'll get out there and knock it out
for you.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Even if you do have an irrigation system, don't wait
till it gets bone dry to turn it on and
make sure it works. I'm guilty of doing that because
I just turned mine on, oh last week, because we
got sneaky dry, and I went ahead and ran the
irrigation and of course, like two days after that, you know,
it fluttered rain here at the house. But I've got

(18:43):
a bunch of pop up heads along my driveway and
the grass had grown. You know, We've had a fantastic
rain this year for the most part, and grass has
just grown like crazy. Well, the grass had grown over
those heads and had gotten so thick that those heads
weren't popping up, and so I hit, I hit go
on a irrigation system, and I start looking around and
I just see water kind of bubbling all out on

(19:05):
the driveway and had to go out there with a
little knife and cut out areas around the irrigation system.
And that's one thing that you know, Chris Keith, you
and I see a tons like people will just set
their irrigations to run on you know a certain schedule,
and they'll never even watch it. They'll never even make
sure that it's running properly. They just assume that, you know,
it's running Monday and you know Thursday for X amount

(19:28):
of time. And uh, you know, heads get, heads get
out of whack, so you might have to adjust. Heads,
heads break, you know, heads don't pop up, heads get mode,
heads get mold. That happens a lot. Heads get chopped
off by some kid with a baseball bat or you
know whatever.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Just you know, things happen. So every now and then,
it's a good idea just to run the irrigation system.
You know, sit back with whatever your favorite drink is
and and watch it go, just to make sure that
everything's working properly.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
Yeah, we' I mean, we've always preached, you know, you
need to water earlier in early in the morning. But
it's kind of a catch twenty two. You know, you
start the irrigation at five o'clock in the morning, it
goes through three zones or four zones for twenty minutes.
That's you know, putting you you know, getting done at
six thirty or whatever. And uh, you know a lot

(20:16):
of people don't even get up until the end, so uh,
you know, you never saw what it did on the
first three zones kind of thing. So it's a good
idea to get out there in the middle of the
day and just cut the thing on and see what
it's gonna do.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
And then you know kind of where you're at.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
And uh, if you need a repair, then you can,
you know, costs get something done. But as it sits,
you just got to make sure the thing's gonna run properly.
We were out, Uh, we went all the way down. Uh,
mister McPherson, we've been been a customer of Mars forever
as long.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
As we've been in business. Uh.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
He's got a lake house down on Lay Lake, and
we went down there every about a year go and
fixed his irrigation.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Hardly anything when run, it's just a it was all terrible.
And we went in there and had to do rewiring
and all this stuff. Well, the Dad Gum Cable company
came in and went through there and put in a
new the.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Little fibber eyety.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
Cable up there now that runs kind of everything to
their house and cut right through our line. So we
had four zones in the front of the house. It
wasn't even working, and uh so we had to go
in there and find where they crossed it and cut
it because they hadn't even turned the thing on this
year where they put that five er optic cable in
back in January. So you know, everything's growing over. You

(21:34):
can't tell where anything. Plus you know that line they
don't when they put that thing in. It's they dig
all this skinny, shallow srend and everything. So it was
deep enough where they ran this spot with that little
machine that they had that they cut our wire yep,
And uh so we had to find it and fix that,
and then we just ran back through his system. He

(21:55):
had a head or two that was broke, but for
the most part it still good from when we were
there before. He's got another small little house like on
down the Heat's got so much water frontage down there.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
It's a beautiful place. He's about to have forty.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
Trees taking out down there, cris in the backyard in
this house. No, lie, he's probably got sixty pine trees
that are like it's big, you can't reach around them.
And now, I mean it looks like a pine forest
back there. And they've got they've got like flags on

(22:32):
everyone about three quarters of them back there to take
them out. So he's about to have somebody come in
there and really clean that place up, and.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
It needs it.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
I mean if I on this place, it would look
like a beach back there. He's got a good stand
the emeralds osia on those pines though, because there's the pines,
I mean that would have a limb for sixty feet.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Yeah, So he gets enough sun under there, enough.

Speaker 7 (22:55):
Sun, but it kind of gets a sneaky dry in
there when he's not doing running his irrigation, because it
just it just you know those pines, you know, they
suck up so much water.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Yeah, you get into you get into a little dry spell.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
They are only ten feet apart. I mean, it's hard.
It's really amazing that he's got as he does.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
It's it is. You get even a you know, normal
yard that has one or two trees in it, you
get into a dry spell, and uh, that's typically the
first thing that will start to fade and start to
brown out as grass that's within the drip line of
a tree, because the tree roots just absorb and suck
up all that moisture. Because they're bigger, they're gonna win

(23:37):
and uh, it's it's amazing to see that.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Well, we you know, we get calls on the on
the radio show here all the time, you know, how
can I get grass to grow under this tree? When
of the movies we say the same thing virtually every
time you're fighting with shade, you're fighting with compaction from
the roots of the tree. You know, you're fighting with
you know, just the tree itself that just sucking all

(24:00):
that water up and all those factors in. It's just
tough to grow grass right up against a great big tree.
And uh, you know it's one of those things you're
you gotta put out more water, you gotta you know,
quar air eight.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
You gotta do things like that.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Or spread some pine straw, breads, read and give up
out right. Sometimes that's it. How on irrigation repairs, I
do want to say that, like you got to be
a very special person for Classic Gardens to do an
irrigation repair. We're not huge on doing that because, man,
I tell you what, sometimes it's like it's like remodeling
a house. You tear open that wall and you don't
know what you're getting into until you peel that sheet

(24:36):
rock back and then and then six times six projects later, uh,
you know you're finally done.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
Well, we don't make irrigation repairs our top priority, and
the reason being is because we don't make much money
off of it, very little, and it's really more a
public service of when we're doing it for somebody, So
like I'm not pulling off of the landscaping.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Job to go do irrigation repairs.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
But if we've got a Friday like this week David Dobbs,
we were on his yard Wednesday or to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
and then we had a little something we had to
do Thursday, and that left Friday open for a repair
to well, you know, that's when we'll go do those
just to fill a little time.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
And and that's this, that and the other.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
But for the most part, we and that's where it
becomes complicated because most homeowners, you know, when you have
to work on their irrigation system, obviously they've got to
let you in the house most of the time, unless
they're irrigation controllers on.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
The outside of the house.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
So it's like it's inconvenient for them, it's inconvenient for us.
Kind of that's what makes it difficult to actually uh schedule, coordinate.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
It's hard and.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
Uh, you know, if the homeowner can't be home or
they you know, they can't leave the garage door open
or whatever, then it just becomes a hassle. And then
we're trying to plan around that kind of stuff and
we call, you know, ten people for repairs and we
wind up with three. So that's just why we don't
fool with that much.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
It's a nightmare.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah, it's a lot of trouble. Well, Chris, I know
it's time for another break. Let's go ahead and do that.
Our number if y'all to call us is two O
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Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's the Classic Gardens and Landscape Show.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
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Speaker 1 (28:03):
And now you're a host. Chris Joiner and Chris Keith.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
In the second half of the Classic Garden for the
Landscape Show and our number. If you want to call us.
It's two o five four three nine nine three seven
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Speaker 6 (28:15):
Old mister Lopier. That's a that was a full scale job.
We've laid killed that yard. We laid that side. We
uh take care of that side. And man, it looks
so good. Now.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
He had centipede in that yard and he kept that
thing cut like real.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
Even still on the left hand side of his driveway.
I have never seen cinnipede cut that short.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Man, it looked. It looks good.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
Yeah, usually when you cut centipede real short like that,
it'll burn out, you know what I mean, It'll look
real thin. But I don't know. Man, he's got some
centipede that's been there since like nineteen twenty. And uh, man,
that that yard looks good.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
His front yard was pretty much the same way it was.
I made no lie a half inch tall, and uh
he just wanted an irrigation system and all that stuff,
and you know the whole idea of tearing up the yard.
He's like, man, if you're gonna tear up my yard,
and he just he's caging as they get. He said,
you're gonna tear my yard up. I want it redone.

(29:11):
You know, back in and laid z fifty two oas
in there and it looks it's it's immaculate. But he
had a breakout there yesterday evening and we were over
in uh leeds working on some stuff and it's like, hey,
we got to jump off of this because it's in
his main line and he ain't got no water. So
we come to the rescue and got that thing fixed

(29:34):
right quick, and uh got him back up and going.
But that made her day a little long. But heck,
we had to take care of the care of no options.
We've been down there today, don't it.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Yeah, you gotta have water, right, you gotta have water.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
I used to hate that we leaving you hanging at
our At our first house, we had uh the uh
the main line from the road to the house PVC,
and I want to say it's some sections of the yard.
It was probably only buried like two inches deep, and
so it was almost like over time, you know, running

(30:08):
the mower and stuff over that area, there'd be little
rocks and stuff and they'd punch a little pinhole in
that PVC just from you know, the pressure. Yeah, and
it does. It seemed like about once or twice a
year I'd see a soggy spot in the yard, I'd
dig it up and I'd put a coupling in and
replace it. It was almost to the point where I was
fixed and replace the whole line, But we ended up
selling and moving.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
We know, I did that Chris at the house. I
had an old galvanized line going to my house that
was there for years before I ever put my house there.
And Mike brought where we brought the bulldozer to my
house and Mike pushed up a bunch of trees for me. Well,
when he went off the edge of the neighbor's driveway,

(30:51):
he happened to go right over where that water line
went through there. Well, obviously that galvanized w old water
line from ancient years like just snapped. And when it did,
I still I just had a crack in it, so
I still had pressure.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
But some somehow.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
Or other, I know, the water bill came in and
it was about twice as high as it normally was,
and I said, well, we got a leak somewhere, and uh,
sure enough, I just walked down the water line and
right there it was, you know, just a spot right
there that was soggy. So I went in and replace
the whole one. I had bad water pressure anyway. Obviously
that galvan I was lying on the inside looked like

(31:29):
a straw, you know. So I had bad water pressure anyway.
So I went in there and trenched in the whole
new water line and uh and knocked that out.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
But uh, yeah, the stuff like that happened.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Yeah, you know homeownership, right, that's it.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
Well, I back, well, when before I did that, I
haven't had such poor water pressure. Like you could flush
a toilet another end of the house and like it
backsuck your if you were in the shower, it suck.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
All the water.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
That's how it is in our in our camper.

Speaker 7 (32:02):
That when I put that in there, you could go
in there, flush the toilet, you could run another shower
and take another shower to go.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
It wouldn't change, wouldn't change a bit.

Speaker 7 (32:12):
Right after I did that, I was like, man, I
should have done that like ten years.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
Well, Chris Keith Man, I'll tell you what long hair
is running wide open right now. I know I've still
been going out doing a ton of bids because this
is like, this is the time of year where you
really have to have a trained professional out on a
yard to figure out what's going on. And you know,
homeowner may have a current company and they've got bad
spots in their yard and there's just they're they're not

(32:38):
getting better. So I go out and do a lot
of lot of you know, consulting with people and signing
up for long hair because you know, fungus has been
really rampant this year with the amount of rain and
humidity we've had, so brown patch and dollar spot, it's
still it's still all over the place. And chinch bugs
have been the last really like three or four years.

(32:59):
Chinch Bugs have been a real big issue, especially on
the Zois yards. And you know they've always been like
chinch bugs have always been around, but they've always kind
of been like a Montgomery South deal, you know what
I'm saying. So you get down into the Florida Panhandle,
you know, South Alabama, even you know in coastal areas,
you know, with a lot of Saint Augustine and Sentipee,

(33:19):
they really really love that stuff. But over the years
they've they've made their way into the Birmingham area, and
you know, I talked to a lot of people that
you know, they we obviously last year, except September or September, August,
September and October, we had a bad drought. I mean
it got super super dry, and so a lot of
yards got you know, dinged up by that. Well, chinchbugs

(33:42):
love when it gets really really hot and really really dry,
and so they they're almost attracted to those type yards.
But at the same time, homeowners think, well, you know,
we hadn't had ourrain in six weeks. You know, it's
just dry. And then before you know it, we're in
November and December, everything's dormant. Well, then you come into this,
you come into this uh you know, this time of year,

(34:04):
and you still got bad spots in the yard. We've
still had plenty of rain, and these spots continue to
get bigger and bigger and bigger. Well, then automatically people think, well,
it's just fungus in the yard, and so they start
spraying with funge inside and these spots don't go away.
And then I was at a house yesterday the McDaniels
and their neighbor, which we don't treat, has an area

(34:25):
like that, and Miss McDaniels like, hey, these people have
an area that the home the homeowners will do it yourself,
or he keeps spraying with fungus, he keeps getting bigger,
and it's making its way towards my yard. And this
was in the middle of one of these storms. Lightning
bolts are popping down everywhere, and I drive by the
neighbor's house and I don't even have to get up
and get out and look because it just chinch bug

(34:47):
damage just has a certain look to it. Basically, they
kill the grass down to dirt and the and the
outside edges will have kind of a yellowy, you know,
brownish orange tent to it, and so once you see it,
you kind of know what to look for. And I
talked with miss McDaniel and I say, hey, listen, I've
got a spray that I can put on here once
it was pouring down rain, but we're gonna go back

(35:07):
out first the next week spray the yard and it'll
keep the chinch bugs from coming into her yard. But
I told her, I was like, listen, if you know
your neighbor, you know you need to talk with him
if he's a do it yourself or and you need
to tell them what's going on, because if he doesn't
get that treated right, it's gonna wreck it. It's going
to kill his whole yard. So hopefully he'll get the
point because some people just and they don't care. Yeah,

(35:30):
and they'll try to do it themselves. But you really
have to have a trained professional out on yards this
time of year to you know, to properly diagnose, you know,
what's going on and treat with the right product. You
can't just you know. I had another homeowner down a
mountain brook and I could pull up to his yard
and there's burn spots everywhere. And I look and I
was like, yep, he went to Low's or home depot

(35:51):
and he got some weed killer and he smoked his yard.
And I talked with him and I was like, man,
what'd you spray on the yard? And he's like, oh,
I just went and got some over the counter, and
I went and got some stuff off the shelf at
the big box store and spray it. And it's like, yeah,
the spots might not come back, So gotta be careful
if you're doing yourself for yeah, for sure, and what
you do and when this time here.

Speaker 7 (36:09):
And the products that will take care of chinch bugs
and stuff like that, they're not expensive. You can go
in the garden Center. You go in there though, and
ask and should give you the right thing. If you
just go in the big box store and grab a
sack of and seckt the side off the shelf, if
you don't read every little fine print on that thing,
then it's I will say it's a preventative.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Yeah, we're not. Or if suppression is one of the
big things that it says, well, that doesn't necessarily kill suppression.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Fix it.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
Yeah, So you got to make sure you get the
right product and come in the garden Center Wednesday through Friday.
You get it right there, Classic Gardens. We got Billy online.
Let's get Billy before we go to break Chris, Good morning, Billy.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
How you doing alright? How you guys doing good? How
can we help you? Buddy?

Speaker 9 (36:53):
Well, I hope you can. I live in play what
you as you know, probably as a name that for
a reason. And we've had a tremendous amount of rain,
I think more than most of everybody else out here.
And I've also got a pond and I've had centipede
yard forever and it's didn't great. I just had no
trouble with it at all. And then with all this rain,

(37:14):
I live at the base of three mountains and everything
is just flopping wet, and now I have nut grass
like freight. I mean, I've never even seen this crap before,
and it is everywhere, and like it seems like overnight,
I've got in places at least a three foot band
around my pond. And as you probably know, anything that

(37:36):
kills nut grass will probably kill your pond too. So
and that's spreading up again in just a matter of days.
That seems I'm into my front yard and into the
rest of the pasture, et cetera, et cetera. So I've
been reading and it sounds like sedge Hammer and Charity
and pond Master may be my options. But I was

(38:00):
ready to start actually yesterday, but of course it started
raining and I can't spray this stuff in the rain.
So I just was looking for ad bias. It's sort
of a nuclear weapon or something of that sort. How
to handle this stuff that it's going faster than I
can keep that with it.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
Yes, Edgehammer, that's one that we use. I mean, that's
that's one of the name brands. I mean, the active
ingredient in that you can find another stuff, but that's
probably one of the best products that you can use
for nutgrass and Billy. Yes, nutgrass this year has been
I mean absolutely terrible because there's yards that I've treated

(38:37):
personally myself for years and years and years and it's
like they've never had a sprig of nutgrass in it,
and now all of a sudden, it's like that stuff
has exploded everywhere. And I remember, I'm on Facebook. I'm
a member of this group and it's I forget the
name of it, but it's basically turf and ornamental pesticide
applicators and it's a nationwide group. But this is probably

(39:00):
been six weeks ago. There's a couple of people that
posted on there, hey have you guys been seeing more
nutgrass this year than you ever have before? And it's
like everybody in every single Southeastern and Midwestern state is like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Nutgrass loves it wet, I mean love it loves rain,
and so it's a it's a catch twenty two because like,

(39:21):
you know, you've got to have the moisture and the
rain or the irrigation, you know, for the grass to grow.
But nutgrass also loves it, and those it grows it's
difficult to kill because it grows from a nutlet kind
of like an onion bulb, and you know that nutlet
can that stuff can be several feet down into the
ground and so people will pull it and they think

(39:43):
that they that they pulled the weed up, but they
didn't pull the actual nutlet up. And those nutlets can
lay dormant in the ground for years and years and
years before they ever emerged. But just you know a
short story that that is a very very difficult weed
to control. But sedgehammer is one that that is very

(40:03):
very good on it. Mix us are facting in with
the with the spray. Uh, you know, try to do
it when you've got some good weather. Uh, you know,
when you're not expecting rain for a couple of days
and hopefully you can beat that back.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
Yeah, the reason why you use that for facting is
because that stuff is so slick, I mean, it's nutgrass
is I mean it's it's so smooth till the the
product will.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Just run right off of it and you don't get
a good kill.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
So if you use this for facting, it's gonna you know,
make it stick and do a better job. But yeah,
you're if you got nut grass, you're always gonna have
nut grass. You know when you mentioned when you when
you mentioned when you mentioned nuclear bomb, Uh, the nuclear
bomb wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Kill the Nuh that's like kudzu. That's worse. Having nutgrass
is worse than having cuds.

Speaker 9 (40:57):
Oh my, I've got a pond that's got baths or
a mirror and colompia and bam and all that stuff.
And I don't want to kill it. But uh, sedge
hammer or sedge hammer and clarity apparently will kill it.
Kill the pond. And high clothes Can I get to
the pond? Nobody ever said that in any of the
directions of the Minute of Ants or a succeed or

(41:19):
high clothes.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
I mean tip you know, you know, typically a few feet.
I mean, if you've got and especially like like I'm saying,
you don't want to spray it when you're expecting a
lot of you know, a lot of rainfall. Uh, you know,
so if you've got if you've got several days for
that stuff to absorb into the into the leaf tissue
of that nutgrass, you should be okay. You just have

(41:40):
to be careful to drift, and a lot I think
it would and even even then, I mean, I think
you'd have to you'd have to get a tremendous amount
of any any product and just dump it directly into
a pond to have a negative effect of it. But
obviously you want to use some common sense and be careful.

Speaker 7 (41:57):
Yeah, that's that's the biggest thing, is not over a
plyme and uh. I mean, honestly, I've got a pawn
that's got bass and crappy.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
You fish it all the time I was there. We
were there smoking crappy and bass and hammering them left.

Speaker 7 (42:13):
I spray from one end the other would round up
right up into the edge of the pond.

Speaker 9 (42:19):
Oh really, well, yeah, there's the pond massa. You know.
I'm sure you know it's round up that's made somehow.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
Yeah, what they do is take glyphs of sake and
mix it with dyke. What I mean, that's a lot
of what those things are. But you get a faster
burn with it with that stuff. You know, you got
to read label directions obviously, But you know, I I
honestly I mix it by I mixed regular ranger with

(42:50):
you know, as the label suggests. But I sprayed right
in the edge of my pond. You know, I've got it.
I've actually got weeds that grow out in the edge
of the pond, and I spray it with that, and
I've never lost a fish. You have to be a
little careful though, again with with rains and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
You know.

Speaker 7 (43:09):
The biggest thing is is like you don't want to
do you wan't nuke everything at one time kind of thing.
You can go out there and spray a quarter of
the pond, wait a week, spread another quarter of the
pond kind of thing, and just.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Do it a little long.

Speaker 7 (43:22):
It's worse on ponds that have a lot of a
lot of like vegetation.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Growing in it.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
So if you went in there like nuked everything all
at one time, then you're gonna mess with the auctionen
in the little lake. And that's where you start having
issues with killing fish.

Speaker 9 (43:38):
Yeah, if I kill everything along along the edge of
the pond, and I'm going to get a lot of
mud and silk and stuff washing down in there, how
quickly could I reside something over that? If I kill it?

Speaker 7 (43:53):
You could next day. The trouble is is you're going
to have that at whatever it is, come back up
through the sad.

Speaker 9 (44:00):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering.

Speaker 10 (44:02):
I know.

Speaker 9 (44:03):
Nutgrass is bad about coming back. So oh yeah, yeah,
I'm not quite sure how to handle that.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 6 (44:11):
We've been spraying nutgrass in our front yard at the
Garden Center since nineteen ninety. I mean, you know, some
years some years, some years we beat it back to
where we think it's gone, and then we get a
year like this year, and it's just like that stuff
pops back. And I sprayed at the beginning of the year,
and it's I keep it beat back, but it just
it seems like one of those weeds that never goes away.

(44:33):
Once you get it.

Speaker 9 (44:36):
By the pond. It's just solid. It's like and it's
not a spread to here and there. It's like yards
of this solid nutgrass, like three full feet wide by
twenty or thirty two long. It's oh, it's gonna be
a mess.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
That's a tough one.

Speaker 7 (44:51):
Yeah, it's it's not a good situation, all right, any
thanks guys.

Speaker 9 (44:58):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
No problem. I don't think we sugarcoated that.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
Yeah, I mean, nutgrass is bad.

Speaker 7 (45:06):
Nuclear bomb. Ain't getting rid of that, no, Chris, let's
take a short break. We'll be right back on the
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Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.

The Breakfast Club

The Breakfast Club

The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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