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Chris Joiner and Chris Keith.
Speaker 6 (00:33):
Good morning, Welcome, Classic Gardens and Landscape Showing w r C.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
I'm Chris Keith, I'm Chris Joiner. I hope everybody's doing
fantastic this morning.
Speaker 6 (00:41):
Yeah, it's a little cloudy. Yeah, it's kind of dreary
a little bit yesterday. But hey, we finally got a
little rain. When I say a little rain, that's all
we guys, a.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Little little rain. I think some got more than others.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
But yeah, but we had a when we have at
some point we got to change the trend, right, Yeah,
I mean here we are. It's uh, you know, the
second day of November, you know, and and where next
week we got a twenty or thirty percent chance of
rain about two or three days next week, so you know,
we're kind of getting into that.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Better than zero.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
All right. I told y'all.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
About mid about mid November, it'll start raining and then
won't quit until May. And sure enough, we're we're flirting
with it right now. I mean we're not. We don't
have any record breaking rain in the forecast, but just
having a twenty or thirty percent chance every day is
a heck of a lot better than going to six
weeks with no rain.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
That's right. And when the temperatures have kind of cooled
off a little bit, like they're hopefully going to know
they have cooled off, that little bit of rain goes
a little bit further, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Well, the plants just don't use it as much, you know,
there everything's going dormant, even you know, even your evergreens.
You know, you see you pine trees. You're really dropping
a lot of pine straw right now. And you see
these conifers, these all providers on the corners of the
house and everything, and they're they're getting that old orange.
You know, they're molting on the inside. So if you
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see your arbividers, you know, starting to turn brown in
the middle, Uh, they do that every fall. That's just normal.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You know.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
In the winter, they they're gonna are in the fall.
They're gonna molt some the even evergreen shed leaves. Uh,
they just are shed needles. They just uh, you know,
I have to take what they do. They ship it
doesn't fall, and then they put back on new on
the outside kind of thing and flushing new.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Growth, and we get tons of phone calls about that
over the next couple of months. Arbividers particularly, you know,
they'll people be like, my harboridis dying from the inside out.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
The we can sit there and I can shake it
and it's like a Christmas tree. All the inside needles
just fall off.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Wether you know, it'll be one that I planted six
months ago or whatever, and uh, they'll call the garden
Center'll be like, you know, this new landscape you're planning
for me six months ago. Now, now I got these
arbividers and they're turning brown the inside, and you're like,
that's good, it's.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
All right, that's natural. Yeah, they do that, even ever
like you said, even evergreens they do shd.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Man.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
I was at somebody's house yesterday and obviously it's been
dry and it you know, it's been hot too, but man,
they had a massive pine tree out there and uh,
and Herda, who was like, man, they got plenty of
pine straw just all over the ground.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They hadn't blown it up or anything. So we used
to talk.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
That just reminded me of the story growing up we
used to we lived in Roebuck Springs. My grandmother lived
up the hill kind of like where Mike and Ann
used to live. I don't even know what that would
be considered. What the name of that particular neighborhood is
up by WJ. Christian Big pine, big long leaf pines
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all over that neighborhood. I still you know, there's certain
smells that you can just remember, you know, all throughout
your life, and that's one of them. Like whenever we
would go to her house, you could no matter what
time of year it was, you just walk out there
and you smell the pines. Whether it's spring or folly,
it's just that pine smell.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Well, everybody up there had enough pine straw for probably
half the state of Alabama, uh, this time of year.
And so once they got through, you know, spreading all
the pine straw on their flower beds, they would just
break it out, piled on the street, and everybody in
the neighborhood would come through with their with their car
trunks or garbage bags or whatever and fill them up. Well,
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I remember we used to go up there, you know,
on the weekends, and uh we just put lay plastic
down in the trunk and uh we just filled the
car trunk up with pine straw, take it back to
the house and keep making trips and keep making trips.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Teresa's granddad and their grandma grandparents lived up in that
same neighborhood, and they had a piled up there. I'm
talking about it. It was a massive man there, you know.
I mean you have a four foot wide truck on this thing.
It had a hew muggins and they were constantly getting
pine straw up out of the ore and so yeah,
they never had to bite any bullets. They just take
it and put it along the front.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You know. They big, you know big.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
All his houses down there too had big, massive, you
know old fashioned azelias and stuff that you know, we're
as old as the house.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And you know, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
They her both sets of her grandparents lived, you know,
wentin a mile of each other, like in that same
neighborhood where you grew up. And one of them lived
over there by Banks, you know, around the corner from
Banks High School where they tore it down, yep. And
the other one lived, you know, down down in the
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other part, you know, just a few blocks away. And
the one that lived closer to Banks. When they bought
their house, they bought it for like thirty thousand bucks,
and when they sold it, they sold it for like
ninety seven thousand and then uh.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
But when they.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Sold the house, it's like a big three bedroom, two
bath with a full basement and the holding brick house,
and they bought a little garden home and they paid
one hundred and twenty thousand. Like, man, it's crazy how
things are.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Oh, man, for sure, that's still a good neighborhood, you
know where. Oh it's neat back there. My brother's house.
My brother still lives there. His house burnt down back
in January. He's it's just about doing all the it's
just basically waiting on an ac unit and they get
the faucets in and the inspection fausets are in. Yeah, finally, Yeah,
everything's pretty much done. There's just a couple of little
nickknacked things in the and the sign off from the
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inspector and uh, it's good to go.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I was back in that neighborhood yesterday. You know, we've
my irrigation truck just decided to crap out on us
about a month ago, and they thought they had it
fixed and like they had to go back in and
do something else to it. So it was like down
for honestly five weeks. So we've been doing everything but
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irrigation because it's like everything you need is in that truck,
you know, So if you try to go do repairs
and something else, it's like, man, whatever you need is
not in you don't have it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's all in that truck.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
So we put off irrigating repairs, which is kind of
it sounds kind of backwards. We don't like doing irrigation
repairs anyway, let's just put it like that. It's more
like a public service than you ain't making no money
doing repairs. You got to send a couple of guys
out there, and you know, they we might get depending
on what's wrong, we might get three or four done,
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and we might get ten done. You never know what
has broke till you get there. So we don't even
like doing it. But I was at a guy's house
right around the corner from your brother yesterday, mister Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, we saw at his front yard.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
We saw it as yard, putting new shrubs in, put
irrigation in, We put piped his down's back. We did
all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
That was God. That was in March. You get his.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Grass cut, because it was long last time I went
out there.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
It's still a little long. I told him, I said,
you need to start dropping that stuff down.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
I told him that about three four weeks ago when
I was when I was fertilizing it, that he needed
to drop it down. So they start working it down
a little bit. He he'd, like everybody else, just got busy,
you know, the end of summer, and grass got a
little tall. So good. I'm glad to know he's working there.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
He's working on it, but it's still I told him,
I said, you just know, every time you cut it,
just go down a notch, you know, get it down
where it's right, because you he's got just enough.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Slope right there to screw it up. Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
He had to lay over on him. So we're preaching her.
We're preaching the right thing. But he uh, he thought
his water bill was a little too high. And I
got to looking at it, and he was still watering.
He was still watering three days a week. And so
(08:39):
I backed off on the I took one day out
of there. I mean, heck is grasses, it's it looks great.
And uh I told him, I said, look, let's back
off til twice a week. And uh so that'll you know,
that'll take that water bill back down a little bit.
But he uh, you know, you just got to pay
attention to something like that. The the Lapier's we did there,
(09:03):
we sided their yard two months ago.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, they're straight up from Louisiana, right, Yeah. I met
mister Lopierre. Well, I gave him a quote to fertilize and.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
His yards about pancake flat.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
He started talking and I was like, he's from south.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
He had centipede in that yard that was like he
mos it like with a real not really, but I
mean it's so low you can't like you could. It's
it's low as a putt and green, and uh we
killed it and uh put put emeralds ois in that
yard and and did now we put Z fifty two
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in that yard and uh put in the irrigation system
for him. He was still watering twice a day, and
at two months I told him, I said, no, we
need to back way off of that so his grass
you could I mean it's it's firmly rude and in
at this point, I mean you couldn't even pull it up.
I was like, we did it back off to every
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other day. He was complaining by it being squishy. I said, well, yeah,
it's a little wet. Yeah, you keep it, and it's
looking a little chloratic too, but I mean you're leaching
everything out, so uh, you know, hopefully I got him
steered in the right direction. Now he's watering every other day,
which will be plenty good for that Z fifty two.
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It's gonna go dormant in the next couple of weeks anyway,
And I said, hey, look when when the rain kicks in,
and it's gonna kick in, y'all a couple of weeks.
I promise it's gonna the switch is gonna flip, you know,
the faucet's gonna get turned on and it won't quit
until May, and uh, you can cut that irrigation system off,
but for right now, it's still a little hot and dry,
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and you gotta keep water in a little bit.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
He don't just don't have the water like you were
in August, because that's the same way Chris Keith's I
was treating, treating yards all week long, and and there
were some that, just like mister Lopierre's, are squishy, and
you can tell that they just hadn't they hadn't backed
off on their irrigation schedule. And there's still watering three
days a week. That's on established yards.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Now.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Mister Lapierre is a little different because his is newer
and so it's not quite as established. But you know
somebody that's got a yard that's been there for years
and years and years, you know, once or twice a week,
really giving it a good soaking. That's all you really
got to do, right now.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Why I was that? Who's that?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Mister Wilder's Bob Wilders yesterday and he only waters twice
a week, but he waters like an hour and twenty
minutes the zone. He's only got two zones in there.
I think he's got he's got two grass zones. He's
got a little bitty yard in the back. I mean
it's it's tiny, it ain't a half a pallet of sod.
And then in the front, his yard's pretty small.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Too.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
And when they water, they water infrequent, but buddy, they
put it to.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
It's like a tropical storm came through after they water
really good.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
They got a lot of innat plants. You know, you
could tell he's he suffered a stroke too long ago.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
He's he's down off of like Pountain pat and Chapel
Bluff Parker. Oh Man, Yes, so he's got a lot
of neat plants. He's a bit, he's a big dy guy.
He's shot with us since we opened door.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, yeah, plants forever.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
When you said neat plants, I just remember walking back
through his backyard and it was just like, yeah, okay,
you can tell this guy's a gardener. You know, he's
got little rock walls everywhere and and uh you know,
all kinds of different perennials all over the place. That's
that's a fine man right there.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, neat sleeper, neat yard right in the you know, right.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
In the end of the drive and you you know,
pull up at his yard. You know the grass. You
can tell, you know, he just cares. You know what
I'm saying. You tell the people that just care. I
was at another mister Dills yesterday. He's over in that
Hoover area. Goodness, he's more like on the Helena side.
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We've treated his yard forever too, but he's got a
got the naturary in the front with the sunshine.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
You're talking about, yes, Empire empires yard and that thing
is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's a neat yard.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
And uh he had he had about six irrigation heads
that had just settled and they were too deep and
the grass, I mean the the head wouldn't even pop
up over the grass. So we raised those heads up.
He had some new shrubs that he put in down
the right side because he took out some magnolia trees
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and uh so we put extended his drip and put
drip on those shrubs. And he had a roder in
the back that was it wasn't spending and somebody had
backed in the driveway and got on it. So we
had to fix that and just some ods and ends.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
His driveway cracked and settled years ago, and he had
a company come in and when I was treating the yard,
they were drilling holes all in the driveway and I
was like, huh. I started talking with the contract actually
I was doing it. I was like, man, what are
you doing? He's like, we're leveling this driveway. And so
they basically drill holes in it and they spray and
I don't I'm just gonna use like everybody kind of
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knows what that expandable foam is that comes like a
great stuff foam. They basically spray something similar to that
up underneath it, but it hardens like a like a resin,
and they just go through there. They drill, they pump
that stuff under it, and it uh it, it levels
out the concrete and then they come in and just
resurface it instead of ripping the whole driveway up and
redoing it. It's a lot cheaper.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
I've seen people do that with sidewalks and stuff like that.
You know they you lay a sidewalk the wrong time
of year, man, you know that it'll settle just you
know that like in the wintertime when you get freezes
and that the dirt we say, the dirt spews up
or the dirt expands, you know, and stuff like that,
and then it retracts.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You'll see a concrete fall on some of these, some
of the.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Sidewalks and stuff like that, where they just go in
there and pour concrete, you know, on the fly. And uh, yeah,
I've seen them do that before on those and it
worked really good. I recommended somebody do that. They had
a pool on the side of the hill up in
Carrington Lakes, the Owens, you remember, the Owens had had
the blue tile pool in the backyard and had the
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fountain on it and all that stuff they had, Like
I went, it was bad, man. I mean, they had
to have the whole pool redone and everything. But they
even after they had the pool partially redone, they had
like voids in there under where they poured the concrete
and stuff. And I recommended them doing some similar like
had having somebody come in and spray that farm stuff
in the voids and try to get that thing back together.
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But yeah, that's pretty neat process.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Well, Chris, we're past the break. Let's go ahead and
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Speaker 5 (19:49):
When when is squirrel season?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And them chickens talk to me?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
So I went out there a week and a half
ago to look at my calle.
Speaker 9 (19:56):
It's about squirrel season because Chris Keith gott in the world's
pretty a collar greens you've ever seen have you ever
watched a video or a documentary on people that grow
like you know, world record pumpkins.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I think that's where Chris Keith is at with his
vall guarden.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Probably got some.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Of my God, chrisky. So I go out to look
at my green. I planted, you know, collar greens, the
different you know, we had three four different varieties and
I mixed them all up. And then I got a
tray of kell because I love kell, and I planned
tray of kell too. Went out there and looked at
my my collar greens about a week ago. I think
it is water in them. And uh, I said, man,
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dang deer smoking these things. And so I'm looking her
all around. You know, there's no deer droppings, there's no
deer prints anything like that. And I said, well, I'm
gonna get some netting or something, put some netting over it.
Sarah calls me a couple of days after that, and
we've got two tropical hibiscus on the on our back porch.
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She's like, these dumb squirrels are eating my hibiscus. Huh.
It's like, keep an eye on that for me. Look
keep an eye on my garden. And she calls me back,
not too long. Those dumb squirrels are over there eating
your collar greens. So those squirrels actually eat the freaking
leaves on my hibiscus, and they're eating the dagum collar
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greens too. Hadn't touch the kell They're just sitting there
eat just eating it like a rabbit.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
They're eating them from moisture.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
I guess so because there ain't none in the woods.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I hadn't I had one.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
And so there are all my collar greens I planned on,
you know, a month ago, and they're all basically sticks
right now.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
I had one broccoli plant that just like it was
pretty one day and the next day it was like
laying dead flat as a pancake. And I couldnt figure
out what was going on. And I got to looking
at it, and there's something that ate it off at
the stems, and I said, well, I had a bowl
moved through something and nothing else has been messed with.
So I don't know, man, you talking about you was
(21:52):
talking about my greens. I've got turnips out there as
big as a baseball. Yeah, boy, I ain't playing man.
You go out there, pull them up. I'm talking about. Yeah,
that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Bradishes mixed in with them and stuff.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
My my my neighbor's uh, my neighbor's old special Forces
of green bray and he loves squirrel. Come on, man,
next video show.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'll bring in my whole set.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Heathin the population years ago because they were getting up
on it, like ours and his and my other neighbor.
They were getting up on the on the roof and
they were eating like the exhaust vents from the the
like the sewer vents, you know, the plastic pipes that
come out of.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That carnish on you get into your attic.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I had a little little cocoa line or fountain that
had a plastic water basin in it, and they chewed
the whole thing all that, and and uh if I
left a five gallon bucket out there for whatever reason,
they'd get on that bucket and they'd chewed that thing up.
So I think it's about time for old mister bend.
Do get make some squirrel dumplings.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Well, Teresa sent me a picture from the house. I
guess I was doing some sidework or something on Saturday.
She hit me a picture and it was a squirrel
chewing on the side and on that little building in
the backyard. And I've already had him get in the
corner of the building before and get in there and
mess up some sheet rocking that building. So yeah, it's
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about wartime.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
That's right. So on my collars, you were talking about
winterizer for the break, I'm gonna start pumping some winter
eyer those things and my shrubs and my lawn.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
You know, I don't think million I think would repel squirrels.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I don't know. I don't think anything repel squirrels. I
don't either, you know, my granddad had twenty bird feeders
in his back in his backyard, and I think that
that was his his job in life was to keep
the squirrels off of all his bird feeders because he
used to get all fancy bird food he you know,
would attract different types of birds. Yeah, And I think
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he had any every type of invention that you could
imagine to keep those squirrels off of those things. And
they would figure they would figure out A, and so
he would make B, and then they would figure out B,
and he would make sea and so on and so
on and went all all the way through the alphabet.
You look in his backyard and it just looked like
a tinker's workshop.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Man.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
There's so much satellite dishes and poles coated and basoline,
you name it. He had it. Man.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
It's it's a catch twenty two when you feed birds,
because if you're feeding birds, you drawing rodents.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
It's just one goes with the other drawing drawing rodents.
She's drawing snakes. Yeah, and you got the old food chain.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It takes. It's a it's a real thing, you know.
And uh, my dad.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
So I was had they feed uh, they feed birds
at their house and they've got chipmunks. Well, they was
over there one day and you know, they've got bird
houses on the on the porch and they got six
or eight bird houses out there, and uh, the birds
are nesting in one of those one of those bird houses. Well,
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he's sitting there on the porch one day and all
of a sudden, this snake comes off the top of
the house and starts coming down the banister and trying
to get off in the bird house, and he, uh,
you know, he he shrew them off.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Just.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Blew them off the side of the thing. But I
was sitting there one day. We were having a fish
fry and I had the fish fryer out there and
the garage, you know, and we're kicked back and frying
fish and drinking a beer, and all of a sudden,
this snake just comes slithering out of the garage and
I'm just like, oh my god. And you know, there
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was just a old chicken snake. But it's like, man,
they feed the birds, you get the chipmunks. You got
the chipmunks you're gonna have, you know, you get chipmunks, squirrels, rats,
you got snakes.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
So I'm alright with the good snakes with the chicken.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Snakes feeding no birds.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
I got in the bird kicked years and years ago.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
And uh, everybody that I know that uh feeds birds
has got chipmunks and rodents.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
I'm just like, no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I'm anti rat, you know, like.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Like I'll I'll play with a snake, but like a rat,
I'll eat like a little school girl and run off things. Man,
let's take another break right quick, or number if you
want to call ask us a guarding the question, you
can do it. It's two o five four three nine
nine three seven to two.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
We didn't talk much about winter aster. It's time to
do that. You know, it's a cool thing this time
of year.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Chris.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
If you put on the bag of gold, uh back
in back in September, you you're never too late to
start a pre emergency program. I will say, if you
put it on there right now, you are gonna have
some poana. I mean, we've we've had a cool enough
nighttime temperatures back in October. You're gonna have some poana
out there. That stuff already started germinating. But you know,
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there's not a bad time to start on a pre
emerging program. If you start now you might want to
actually just do the winter ezer with the weed prevent
in it. Uh, it's gonna take care of some of
those broad leaf weeds and stuff like that. It'll be
a little less expensive. And then you can jump on
the bag of gold in March uh and start getting
on that. But uh yeah, so get that out. You'll
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get your winter eyser out and uh you can line
the yard at the same time, and you won't even
have to get back out in the weather for you know,
until you get around in the February March. You know,
so it's time to get that done. Uh, let's take
that break. We'll be right back in Classic Guardens the
Landscape Show.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It's the classic Godess the Landscape Show all ready to
come when you'll watch up Lands and Grass to Grow
Christ and.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Chris No and now you're a host Chris Joiner and
Chris Keith.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
And we're back for the second half of the Class
of Gardens and Landscape Show. And Chris, when we went
to break, we were talking about the importance of winterizer
and lime and uh, you know, if if you were
only gonna fertilize your grass one time of year, the
lime application. It would be the most important. It storms
car stores carbohydrates in the roots.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
The winteriser, Yeah, winterizer, It.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Stores carbohydrates in the roots and gets that thing to
where Man, what is it's like feeding asleep and bear
you know when it's going into hibernation. Man, when your
grass comes out in the spring, it will just tear
out and do great.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
And you can use that on lawns and then shrubs
as well. It's huge on trubs. We do a big
winterizer application a couple usually a couple of times a
year on shrubs. Uh, you can do it. You can
do it early, like in the fall, and then you
can come back in like January February and do winter
ezer because it again it helps to strengthen the root
system of the of the plant, makes it more winter
hardy and like you said, store all that energy. So
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when we when we do get into the spring, man
night and day difference.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Well, and then you got your lime application too. You
can put it out at the same time you put
your winter ezer out. But what it's going to do
is it sweetens the soil. Our soil is naturally acidic
here in in you know in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Uh, there's a few little odd spots, you.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Know, down around Alabaster, places like that, you know, just
randomly that don't need lyne But for the most part
in the Birmingham area there are grasses and our ground
is naturally acidic. And once a year you have to
put a little line out and uh, it's that time
of year.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Which time of year that?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (29:48):
We got Harold on the phone. Good morning, Harold, how
are you okay?
Speaker 7 (29:53):
It's sixty four degrees beautiful morning for a run here
in Homewood.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
You hadn't even broke a sweat at sixteen miles in,
not even a drop of sweat.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Right now, I'm sixty six years old. I can only
go five miles house, so I'm three miles halfway.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Oh you guys, you ever did you ever you ever
done a Have you ever done a marathon? Herold I ran?
Speaker 7 (30:15):
I ran the Chicago Marathon six times.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Oh wow, that's what I remember. My sister in laws,
my sister in laws and father in law, they did
the Mercedes years and years and years ago, and I
remember them training for that thing and it was like NonStop.
They ran like every single day. They were in great shape.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Yeah, yeah, you actually I did the Mercedes half twice,
but I think I ran in Chicago first time two
thousand and two. Then I ran it for six straight
years in Hell. Sort to getting old.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I run from dogs.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Hey I got I've got one. You'll run from two.
And you know you know her well too, I do. Okay,
let's talk about rye grass. I know, don't put it
over the Emerald Zoyda because it'll delay it coming up.
But I've got some bare spots under a tree. Is
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that fescue or.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Do I do?
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Go rye grass? And I'm not in the backyard.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
At my first house, Harold, I had, I had three
Bradford pears, and there's I don't. I don't recommend a
Bradford pair. I hate Bradford pears, but when I bought
the house, they were there, and I had I had
three in a row, and I had basically a big
oval shape around those Bradford pairs where the bermuda wouldn't grow.
But I wanted grass and I didn't want to keep
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extending the pine straw. So I came in with fescue
in that shady area around those three trees and did
fescue and it blended and it blended well for the
most part with Bermuda up until we got to you know,
July August, when it got just real, real hot, that
fisky started to burn up a little bit. But that's
just in the south. That's how fescue does. You have
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to come in every fall and lightly over seed it,
so that would be your option.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
Okay, good deal. Now I'm I'm going to be going
to a lawyer about a copy writ infringement. You guys
keep talking about the bag of gold, and I'm not
getting a royalty check on that.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
I guess we need to supply him a bag of
gold every year for free.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Hunh. Well, I think one bag of gold would do Harolds.
You are about four times a bag of gold.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
For the law. You would cover about thirty minutes of
his time.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Yeah, you're right about that.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Well, yeah, you guys know I believe in that stuff.
I was skeptic at first, and I complain about the cost,
but it is well worth it in like you guys say,
uh you if you do the pre emergent, you know,
for six times a year. Yet at the cost, it's
it's the bag of old super Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Well and for the results, I mean yeah, yeah. I
mean for the results. I mean it's it's a no brainer.
Yes it is.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Okay, I need I'll be looking. Is Mike Pinder gonna
sign the check for the royalty?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yep, he'll personally deliver it too, So don't wait.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
By the mailbox, is what y'all are saying.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Okay, Hey, one of the little tip guys, take your
old pumpkins, take the seeds out, put it to compost.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Ben, Why because you want to grow pumpkins next year?
Speaker 8 (33:33):
No?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
No, no, you take the seeds out, but you use the.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Post you got, you got you, I'll stile for whatever reason,
I was like, why are you putting pumpkin seeds in
your compost?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Ben?
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Well? This is well, this is one of those things
you learned the hard way to virtue. I just see
the pumpkin in there, and the next spring I had
all these damn pumpkin plants come. I got smart. I
got smart and started taking the seeds out and throwing
them away and been putting the rind in there.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Okay, that's a fine life lesson.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
I'm gonna let something, but I hope the next guy
you on old royalty money too, take care of roll tide.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
All right, man, have a good one.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
I just threw all my pumpkins out in the woods,
and I will all have little little pumpkins coming up
here and there, and I've got them come up under
my deck for some reason, but I let them. I
just let them grow just to see what kind of get.
But usually it's just some kind of old gourd that
that pops up from that.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
You know, I've got I've got some stray corn and
some tomatoes and stuff that are coming up in the
garden where I've just you know, like I've had a
squirrel get a get a ripe tomato and screw it up,
and I just throw it. I've got enough tomatoes and
stuff for you know me and half a spring. So uh,
I have one on there that's just went bad or
something like that, or cracked and just got a bad
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spot on it, and I just throw it and you know,
throw it to the side. And yep, I've got little
tomatoes coming up all over the place.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
So Harold's life lesson, take the seeds out. Yeah, this
has been a week of life lessons. A clear learned
one Wednesday before car Line, all my girls have you know,
Claire's my procrastinator, right I can we have to tell
her to get up and get a shower five thousand
different times, But it seems like Caroline's exact opposite. You
(35:15):
tell Caroline to go get in a shower, She's in
there before you even finish the sentence. Claire's like, my boy,
she doesn't want to take a shower. She'll run around filthy,
dirty and stinking. Well, if when I give my kids
on Wednesday, I give them two notices before we're gonna
leave for Carline, I'm like, all right, we're leaving in
twenty minutes. Y'all get all y'all stuff together. I don't
get their stuff together. They got to do that. That's
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part of their responsibility, right, So twenty minutes fixing and leave.
Ten minutes we're fixing the leave all right. We're walking
out the door right the Wednesday. Claire's walking down there,
she's carrying everything. She ain't got shoes on, she ain't
got socks on. We pull into Carline, I'm telling them
to unbuckle to get out. Claire slips her shoes on.
She's like, Dad, I got two left shoes. I'm like,
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what one of them's Carolines, which is about a size
and a half two sizes of small. And she's like, yeah,
I got Caroline shoe. And I was like, well, babe,
I got a new I got a new guy starting
at eight am, so you're just gonna have to take
that shoe and loosen it and suck it up for
the rest of the day. It's like, I don't have
time to go back and get my shoe. I was like,
I bet you'll get ready when I tell you too
the first time. Well, I put it on our family
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our family group text, just like, hey, Claire just learned
a life lesson. When I tell her to get ready,
she better get ready to do it the first She
better get ready the first time. And of course all
the ants are like, oh, poor baby or sweet baby.
Her feet are gonna hurt by the end of the day.
And my sister and my sister in law kadies, She's like,
you want me to go get her shoe for I'm like, listen,
you can do what you want to do, cause I
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got work. I gotta go to work. I got a
new guy starting. I can't be late. And old Aunt
Kick went and got clear came to the rescue, which
I'm probably pretty glad because Clara was like, my foot
hurt so bad for the for the thirty minut so
I had to wear that too small to you. But hey,
I mean you gotta learn. You gotta teach them, right, aunt,
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kei key came to the risk, ant key key to
the risk kind of I'm glad Clare would have been
so mad at me by the end of the day.
Probably most definitely. Well, Chris, let's take the last break
of the show our number. If you I want to
get in the last minute, call you can we come back.
I'll tell you about this irrigation system we've been putting
in on the river. You know, we finally got our
irrigation truck back and we uh man, we had to
(37:30):
lie in on this one. You know, we've been waiting
for a month to do this job and you know
we finally got on it and it's it's big.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
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Speaker 5 (39:17):
I pull in weed them the the sun.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
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Speaker 4 (39:24):
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Speaker 2 (39:30):
My yarn work never sent them. Get me done.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
I bought the lawn Ever long line.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
About the lawn.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Aver long line.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
And we're back and Chris, when we went to break,
I was telling you about this irrigation system we're doing
out there.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
We're on the Talladega sides.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
We're like, uh, you get off the Lincoln exit and
you take a rite and go out there and it
shoots back in over there by.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Uh. Anyways, it's on that side of the river.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Over there by that side of the river.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
This nice big acre lot on the on the river,
and they've had a bunch of trees taken out.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
And you know what we're doing.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
When you do an irrigation system on the river and
you put a pump in out there, the pump is
strong enough that you can run like ten heads instead
of like you know, normally on an irrigation system, at
at your house, we'll put a we'll put a pressure
regulator on it regulates the pressure down and where you
like to run about four or five heads on his zone.
(40:41):
Well at the lake you put this big bad a
pump out there on the on the dock and you
can run like ten heads on his zone. So we
got seven zones out there, but technically if it was
at your house, it would be like fourteen zones. So yeah,
we got irrigation in on that. And the plan is
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we're gonna go in there. There really wasn't enough grass
there to amount too much. There's a little bit of
centipede in the backyard. It's got a house trader on
it now. But I'm they're you know, making plans to
do different things, but we're gonna overseed.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
It would rye.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
We're so we're gonna go in and grade the whole
yard because the yard's humpy and bumpy and got holes
and dips and everything else. So the plans to go
in there and hearty rake the whole yard out smooth,
and we've added topsail to it and everything else and
get that thing smooth, and we're all oversea.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
It would rye for the fall.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
And then next year, probably about May or June, whenever
the ground temperature gets hot enough, we'll go in there
and seed it with centipede. But they got a new
good irrigation system on it now, so that centipede seed
to come up out there and do fine. We don't
usually do centipede seed, but there's still some trees on
the lot, and it's you know, it's at the lake,
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you know, and it's one of those things, you know,
the centipede is kind of the lazy man's grass. So
we're gonna wind up seeing that thing with the with
centipede seed and it'll do fine for out there at
the lake.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
You want have to mow it, you know, very often.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Typically bermuda is about the only seed that we recommend,
but I'm guessing that probably doesn't get enough shape or
enough sunshine.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
It's sporadic. You know, there's there's areas in it where
bermuda just wouldn't grow. You know, if you had to
mix seed and stuff like that, it just look janky,
and you know, so just going on one type of seed,
we hardly ever recommend centipede. I mean, it's just this
is just you know, kind of the perfect the perfect
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situation for some centipede.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Seed and centipede's not a bad grass. It's just like
you said, Chris, it's a lazy man grass.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Well, the more you do the centipede, the worse it gets. Right,
So thing you do is seed it, you know, you
get it up and then you pretty much forget it.
You know, if you fertilize it in the summer, it's
got fungus. It feeds the fungus, and spray it.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Spray the weed killer at the wrong time of year,
burn it, burn it up.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I mean it just the more you mess with the
worse it gets. So you better off just not mess
with it.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
We don't even like, we don't treat centipede or Saint
Augustine on our lawn care program. Uh, we've got to
do it yourself program. Out of the garden center. You
come in with a couple of fertilizers that you know,
during the summer, you some centipede fertilizer in the spring
mill organize. It's a fantastic one for centipede and Saint
Augustine in the summer months and pre emergent. You have
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to do your pre merging a little differently during the summer,
you use them without fertilizers. It's really just like you said,
Chris lazy man grass.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
Yeah, you don't have to do a lot kind of
feather edge it if you're gonna do anything to it
at all.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, what most people do is just mow it.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
Yeah, I mean right, And that's really what we're trying
to do on this lot is just get something on
it that's a good consistent one thing.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
You know, that is a lake house.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
You know, you don't want to have to be out there,
you know, putting stuff on it all the time and
messing with it. Just mow it and call it done
kind of thing. And uh, I think that's the plan
on this the place.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
It can be sensitive to cold weather, both of us
centipede can. That's one of the one of the downfalls
of it. So when we get really cold cold winter,
I have cold winters or late frost late freezes in
the spring, it can it can get dinged up pretty bad.
But yeah, that sounds like a perfect situation for it. Yes, well, Chris,
we switching that time back tonight, so don't forget to
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do that. Turn your time back, check your smoke alarm batteries,
I'm gonna remember to do that. Keep an eye on
your irrigation schedule. You don't have to water three four
times a week right now. Night Lighting that's another thing
I'm have. Everybody needs to change their night lighting back
once that time changes.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Uh, maintenance on the more perfect time to do it,
since the grass has slowed down significantly growing. You know,
if you need to sharpen your blades, you need to
get the old changed, greases, fittings, change pulleys, anything like
that perfect time because uh, mowing the small engine repair
shops will kind of start slowing down, and so they'll
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be they'll be able to get you in and out
real quick on your mower. All the debris from that's
fixing the fall in the yard, so leaves. You don't
want to maultch the leaves into the yard. You want
to get those off of the yard. Bag them, blow
them off into the natural areas, into the woods, whatever
you know, sticks and stuff like that. Make sure to
get those off off the ground. Don't multch us up. Nuts,
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hickory nuts, acorns, you need to don't mulch those up.
Break those up and get them off of the yard
because they actually can secrete a toxin into the ground,
kind of like a natural way to help the tree regenerate,
you know, put up new trees. Jug loan is that
what that stuff's called. Jugling. It's a it's a it's
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secrets out of the out of a hick out of
the nuts, basically poison.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, stick to.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
Sterilize everything up under the tree, so that those little
saplings can come up and grow. So get to all
those hickory nuts and acorns, raked those up off the yard.
Don't grind those back into the end of the grass,
and then you won't have a hopefully you won't have
a billion tree saplings popping up next spring with all
those acorns.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
A lot of times everywhere, little acorns everywhere.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
Let's see the little oak trees and they's basically the
maples man, Yeah, the little maple trees that come up
all over the place.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
That's right. So just you know, take the time to
take care of the yard mowing, make sure that it's
not three four or five inches tall. Typically we like
to keep yards at about two inches give or take.
That's kind of that sweet spot you know, through through
the winter months so it doesn't lay over, you know,
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crank does leaf blowers up baby at that time. Leaves
have been falling this last week. I swear you can
be treating yards and it's just like rain and leaves everywhere. Yeah,
so you gotta stay on top of it. Don't let
all the leaves. Don't wait until all the leaves fall
before you before you blow them all off the yard.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
I think if you're gonna see any fall color, you
better go look, because I think it's gonna drop pretty
heavy over this one.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
We're gonna make some rides over over the mountains from
Pencon to Springville after the game, after a football game
that we gotta go to today, We're gonna cut back
over Pine Mountain, Chandler Mountain.
Speaker 6 (47:25):
Me and Teresia did that last Saturday or last Sunday,
and uh kind of went up towards Coleman, Yeah, and
then kind of shot back off down fourth down, four
thirty one back over into there and uh some places
over you know, above mountain top, flea market and stuff
like that, and came back down through Gallant yep, and
shot back across there and there's there's with some pretty
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fall color last last weekend. Hopefully it's uh hangs in
there for you and you can go take a country
ride this weekend and scope out the fall color.
Speaker 8 (47:57):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (47:58):
If you need landscaping, if you need irrigation, if you
need long care, if you need a patio or a
taining wall, if you need forest mulching, land clearing, I
know Justin's.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Got his.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
Big track code down in Bibb County doing some work
for a fellow down there. So if you need land
clear and anything like that, you call us eight five
four or four thousand and five. We'd be glad to
come out there and do your work for you. Chris,
I think I got about another month and I'm gonna
be sitting it out for about a month trying to
get my hands back going with this corporal tunnel surgery. Said, well, yeah,
(48:32):
y'all want you want to see me, you better see
me in the next month or you'll be seeing me
in the next year. Give us call eight five four
four thousand and five and we'll see you next weekend.
On the Classic Gardens and Landscape Show
Speaker 3 (49:00):
No.