Classic Gardens from September 6th, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
It's the classic Gardens and Landscape shovel.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
On the head, ready and well, if.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
You want show up plants and grass to grow two percent.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Chris, Chris and Chris. No, Chris knows it. Chris knows it.
Chris knows it. Chris knows it. Chris knows it. Chris
knows it. Chris knows it. Chris knows it.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
And now you're a host. Chris Joyner and Chris.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Keith, Good morning, and we go up to the classic
Gardens Day and the Landscape Show on w e r C.

Speaker 6 (00:49):
I'm Chris Keith, I'm Chris Joyner. I hope everybody knows it.

Speaker 7 (00:52):
I know it.

Speaker 6 (00:53):
You know it? Yep, all right, I know it's hot.
It's hot and dry.

Speaker 7 (00:56):
It is hot.

Speaker 6 (00:58):
I know that much.

Speaker 7 (00:59):
It's fall is so it's supposed to be dry.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
When is the first official day of.

Speaker 7 (01:04):
All technically it's in like two weeks.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
All right, Well, you know I'm gonna go ahead and
say it's fall.

Speaker 8 (01:09):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:09):
We had fall with some cool weather last week too, whatever,
but it's.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
Gone back hot again. We you know, we'll have about
dry again.

Speaker 9 (01:17):
I'm not even gonna say it's sneaky dry and day
sneaky dry was back in like you know, late July
or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
This is just dry.

Speaker 9 (01:24):
You know, September and October typically are dries months out
of the year. And you know, here we are and
it's and it's dry, And there's a difference between present
and past, right, So like I talked to a lot
of homeowners, and we talked a lot about grass, obviously
because I'm the I'm the grass whisperer, and uh, you know,
people's irrigation systems won't be working, and we'll talk a

(01:46):
lot about water, and probably the next couple of weeks
people's irrigation systems aren't working properly, or maybe they're just
not even watering. And they'll say, well, we've had plenty
of rain. Well that's past tense, right, We got to
live in the present.

Speaker 7 (01:59):
Night have had we had.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
Just keep that out.

Speaker 9 (02:04):
We have not not just with you, not just with
your plant grasp, but with your plants. So like if
you did landscaping, you know, back in the spring we've had.
We've had fantastic grain all year, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (02:15):
Chris, Yeah, give or take.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
I mean there's spots, you know, you get down in
Hoover River Chase areas like that. I mean, we did
a did an irrigation repair. It was virtually this And
we don't even like talking aback doing irrigation repairs, to
be honest with you, but I mean it's hot.

Speaker 9 (02:32):
We've always said, like you've got to you've got to
be like our mama's to do irrigation repair for it.

Speaker 7 (02:38):
You've got a new we got a new lawn care customer.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
He's down there right off the River Chase Parkway, and
he got an irrigation system that hadn't run in like,
you know, ten years. And I mean we had to
fix the master valve because it was leaking right off
the jump, so we replaced it. Then we leave from
there and he's got two breaks where it's somebody piped
out the down spouts from the corner of the house

(03:03):
and literally took as saws all went right through the
main line and another line just cut them smooth into
So we had to fix that. Uh, he didn't His
controller was ancient we put a new controller in, so
we had to do all that stuff just to get
water to the first valve. You know, that's I mean,

(03:23):
that's a lot of stuff to have to do just
to get started. And then uh, you know, he had
like three breaks on the first zone and they had
put in they'd put in another drain in the corner
of the driveway every way and they went right through
the right through the pipe and bust that into and
it was just like an all day repair virtually, you know,

(03:46):
a day and a half and uh fixed his irrigation system.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
But you gotta.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
You look at it, and you're like, man, would it
not be better just to put in a whole new irrigation system. Well,
a new irrigation system, you know, for him would have
been ten thousand bucks and he had like a three
thousand dollars repair.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
Yeah, you know, the price is just yeah, the prices. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
So you know, but we don't we don't like doing repairs,
but some of the time we have to jump off
of it. Obviously it's hot, it's dry, and we don't
want our customers yards looking poor.

Speaker 7 (04:21):
So you know, we're gonna get out there.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
While we were at Ben Shivers, yesterday and uh out
there in the garden deal and uh he just he
had like two heads Chris that you know, a lot
of people didn't run their irrigation system till the last
three weeks and then they just turn the thing on. Well,
those of the eighteen o fours, you know with the

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little pop up nozzles that they'll the grass that grow
over the top of them if it's you know, it
hadn't run in nine months, so you know, we just
had to go in there and cut them and you know,
cut the grass of loose, cut the turf loose that
had grown over the top of them, and boom they
hop up, you know. So he had three heads like that,
one head that wasn't shooting far enough.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
And did were you by there?

Speaker 6 (05:06):
I was by there at the end of the day.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
What did you think about that spot up there? I
didn't obviously I was there to fix the irrigation. I
wasn't there to do that. But there's a damage spot
beside the beside the mailbox.

Speaker 9 (05:18):
I think it probably got a little chinch bugs in it.
We Camden, one of our long cair technicians, was out
there about two weeks ago and and you know, Notate
obviously that it was dry, and that he suspected some
chinch bugs. He couldn't find them, because, man, I'm telling
you what, Chris Keith. If you take this little pen
and this big pin that I got right here, and
you make a dot on a piece of paper, that's

(05:39):
about how big a chinchbug baby is.

Speaker 7 (05:42):
But the dam put like fifty of your thumbnail.

Speaker 9 (05:45):
But the damage has a certain look to it, So
sometimes you're basically, you know, doing some treatments based on
how the damage looks because you can't hardly see the things,
and they tend to hide in the in like the
little cracks and crevices of the grass where it comes
up out of the ground. And so he spot for
you those with insecticide and basically got rid of those

(06:06):
because I couldn't. I couldn't find any either, and it
looked like that that damage was kind of healing based
on the pictures that we took.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
But chinch bugs tend to like dry grass.

Speaker 9 (06:15):
Like I would say, ninety eight percent of the chinch
bugs that I find are in you know, yards that
aren't irrigated or maybe you know have irrigation issues, and
that's just like they man, they just they go to
that dry grass and they like it. So they probably
had them, but we ended we took care of them.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
Well, two they have.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
So the nearest sprinkler head against the driveway right there
is like thirty feet away, and the nearest one up
the street is thirty feet away, so there there's not
a head. Both heads go into that corner, but the
one up the driveway it gets hit.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
You know, it hits that big.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Mal and you know, I got that bigal mail box
with two big brick planners on either side of it.
And when it gets around there too, that even it's
it's not getting any water from that head. So the
head that was over here, it was fanned out a
little bit so it was only shooting like twenty five feet,
so it wasn't getting all the way out there to
the street anyway. So we backed that thing out so
it'd get on over there a little bit, a little

(07:15):
bit more. He's got that thing set where it'll run
about forty five minutes on that zone. So you know,
meat and money Wednesday Friday, he should be good to go.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Yeah, he should be there.

Speaker 9 (07:24):
The Shivers are kind of they're one of the Mount
Rushmore customers they've been with us for we know, I've
been a classic over twenty five years and they've been
with us that long.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I used to do her pots for you know, she
had those cocoa line post right and every year she'd
bring those things in there, and every other year I
have to cut a new liner for them, and it
was such a pain in the butt. But uh, I
would do that for her every year, and potter plants
up for and uh yeah, I mean back when I
worked in the garden center, I'd do that stuff for
people all the time. They'd bring their pots back in

(07:55):
there and I'd redo them for them.

Speaker 9 (07:57):
They got a little torpedo grass in their backyard. Man,
you can't hard to get rid of that stuff.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
It is tough.

Speaker 9 (08:01):
That's a tough way to get rid of. There's a
couple of neighborhoods we actually did want. We actually the Wakefordsille.
We killed the uh that that neighborhood it's down off
of uh down on off two eighty area. That whole neighborhood.
When they brought that sod in, it was full of
torpedo grass. And there's there's one particular company in there

(08:24):
that was treating a bunch of them, and and you
know they were saying, yeah, we can kill it, Yeah,
we can kill it. Yeah, we can kill it because
you can come in with a product called Quinn Chlorac
and it's labeled for torpedo grass, but it's uh, you
spray it and it will it'll beat it back and
it'll turn it yellow. But the roots of that stuff
will stay alive and then it'll it'll pop right back out.

(08:45):
So we had we came in at Wakeford Is because
I talked with it and I was like, listen, I
was like, you can't get rid of this stuff, and
and you have to come in there with like a
round up type product, you know, glyca sate, and to
come in and kill everything and wait a couple of
weeks and spray it again, and then wait a couple
of weeks and sprayed again to make sure that stuff's dead.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
We sprayed their's. We sprayed there's two times in the fall. Yeah,
because you know we were over there. They had a
landslide in the backyard. We do a lot of work, y'all.
So if you need if you need landscaping, our landscaping
just itting just you know, going in and putting in
new st or putting in new shrubs or stuff like that.
So the Wakefs had a landslide in the backyard. And

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when I say they had a bluff, they basically about
thirty feet off the back of their house is a
bluff and they had a wooden privacy fence in the backyard. Well,
the side of the bluff slid off, took out the fence,
and uh so we went in with the excavator and
I moved dirt all that. When I say all day long,

(09:46):
I'm talking about all day long, for a day and
a half. Literally justin was dipping it up off the
side of the hill and putting it in my bucket.
I was turning and making a U turn going out
of the backyard and dumping it off in this ravine.
And uh I did that for a day and a half.
That's how much dirt slid off the side of that hill.
I mean, it must have been like, you know, ten

(10:07):
tracks loads of dirt. And we moved to a bucket
at a time off that hill and uh you know,
went back in and reside where it screwed the grass
up and all that stuff while we were over there.
Then they had the torpedo grass in the yard. We
started killing the grass literally that fall. So we sprayed
it like two or three times that fall. Obviously, then
it went dormant. Then the next spring we waited forever

(10:30):
anything to come back. What do you know, there's some
torpedo grass again. We sprayed it three more times uh
that spring, and then went back in and laid permuted,
I mean laid zoysius sawd and uh finally hopefully got
all that stuff out because man, it's one of those things.
It's like some some weeds. I mean it's somebody was

(10:52):
we were at somebody's house, said that it was mister Rayley's.
He got a little bit of uh, he got a
little bit of kyl inga right on the right hand
corner of like going in down the air the red
and Uh, I sprayed all that with round up and
and all that stuff because I've got his yard like
scorched dead right now. Everything in the front yard is

(11:13):
just dead, and uh, we're about to lay always just
saw it back in there.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
He said, So what about that? I said, it's going
to come back.

Speaker 9 (11:20):
It's just something we we've been dealing with nutgrass in
our front yard.

Speaker 7 (11:23):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
He had a little bit of wild veronica, you know,
real low under the end. It's it's one of those
that a lot of times applicator will missed it because
it lays so low in the grass you can't see it.
And uh, he had a little bit of that in there.
And he was of course, he's one of them guys
you know who keeps his grass cut a by the
inch tall, and he probably stands out there and looks
at it like a chicken peck and uh, you know,

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and the like honestly, and uh, he's like, what about
that weed right there? I said, no, what I'm spraying
right now is to smoke that. And he's like, oh,
what about that? I was like, no, that kyleena, or
that nut grass. If you've got any of that, it's
coming back.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (12:06):
It just is what it is.

Speaker 9 (12:07):
I love customers like that. It didn't have much. There's
like there's like not a thing out of place in
those customers yard. Like they don't collect they don't collect guns,
they don't have you know, they don't collect.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Bourbons or dah dah day. They don't have. Their hobby
is their yard, right yep. And that's what they do.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, you got him and the mister mister Raleigh, and
you got like Ed Kleine, you know, and people like
that that stand out there and cut their cut their
shrubs like twice a month.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
You know it's too cool.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Well, Chris, let's take a break or number if you
want to call us two O five four three nine
nine three seven two. If you need landscaping, if you
need irrigating, the man landscaping right now, this is a
fabulous time to do it. We got a lot of
sod lined up what to do. We're doing mister Rayley's
and uh, we'd love to do yours too. When I

(12:56):
sprayed about three or four yesterday, Chris that we're gonna
be doing sid work for But uh, you know, if
you don't have an irrigation system and we're gonna be
doing work for you, go ahead and think about getting
that done, because man, it sure is a lot easier
just to turn that thing on and say, okay, it's
gonna water when it needs the water. I mean, we'll
have it set for you and we'll have it ready
to go. But yeah, if you need drainage work, any

(13:19):
of that stuff, call us at the office eight five four,
four thousand and five. But again, if you want to
call us on the radio show, it's two O five
four three nine nine three seven two.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
We'll be right back.

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need landscaping, if you need irrigation, if you need night lighting,
if you need a patio or attaining wall, forest mulching,
land clearing, all that stuff we did.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
If you got a landslide in your backyard, we can clear,
we can clear.

Speaker 9 (19:17):
That's not our first landslide that we've dealt with now,
I made at Wakeford's house. There's one in uh uh
Inverness Parkway. Remember remember years ago the.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
House on the right, we ended up coming in and
put like a huge catch base.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 9 (19:33):
And then a few years after that, the house on
the left had that landslide and they had like a
brand new deck built or something like that, and I
mean it completely covered up their deck and we had
to come in.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
And do it the same bunch. But we wound up
putting in uh.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
We did a retaining we did an entertaining wall, and
put in a catch basin for one and literally the
catch basin we ran like I don't know, a couple
hundred feet of pike.

Speaker 9 (19:55):
You could put this catch basing at the bottom of
the Mississippi River and it would redirect that whole river.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
That's how big that catch basin was.

Speaker 8 (20:02):
They had.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
They had a big flood down there, like it got
like seven inches of rain in like two hours.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
I mean, it was catastrophic, you know, and all that.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Water came down the hill and like literally turned the
retaining wall over on their their new porch.

Speaker 9 (20:17):
Yeah, and I think and I think that they had
had some event or something like that at their house,
like you know, a month down the road or something like.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
It was one of those situations.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah, we had to go in there and tear it
to all that that whole retaining wall out. Of course,
we had to take their whole deck and uh, you know,
their deck was virtually new, take their whole deck and
tear it off the house, and uh go in there
and rebuild the whole wall and put in that big
catch back. It seemed like we were over there a
month and uh fixed all that, and then the lady

(20:50):
right beside her on the right. We wound up having
to go in there and virtually do the same thing
to theirs.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
And uh yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
So if you need any of that crazy, if you
have some catastrop, off it cap and we can come
to the rescue.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
And a lot of times too.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
I mean it's like, just because you buy a house
with a pool, don't mean you want the pool. And
I guess over the years we filled in a dozen pools.
Uh you know, where people just move in there, and
it was just some of the time they move in
there and they're like, man, I got a pool. They
love it, you know, and then and their kids grow
up and all that stuff, and then next thing, you know,

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the pool is just.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
A money pit.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
A money pit.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
I mean it's it's you know, my mother in law has.

Speaker 9 (21:31):
A pool, and I know that Sarah and I over
the years, you know, help keep it, cleaning everything because
we're over there, because.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
You know, for a long time I was I was
the pool boy.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
You know, I'd get out there in my speedo and
I'd be brushing it and everything I do. I'm too
pale for a speed I'd be as red as your shirt.
But oh man, those things are a money pit.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
Man.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
By the all the chemicals and stuff you got to
buy for that good night.

Speaker 9 (21:55):
Yeah, and yeah, you know, because we don't even swim
in it as much as we used to, and with
everything going on, we're always at some ball field or
birthday party or event or something like that.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
But yeah, we can fill in pools too. We just
did that recently.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
So yeah, call us if it involves moving dirt or
like taking down a forest or anything, we could probably
do it for.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
I agree, yes we can. I know, Chris Ann got
some mums in.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
I know, I tell you, by half of a vegetable
we had we had, we still we still got.

Speaker 9 (22:27):
I don't even know what's all out there. I know
I saw some lettuce, we got collar greens. I'm getting
some turnip greens, probably some broccoli stuff like that. So
we kind of got our first shipment in of some
of some fall vegetables and mums. We don't have any
betting plants yet, pansies or Merrygold's or anything like that,
but I'm sure that those are probably a week or

(22:48):
two away before we get those. So you know, fixing
a start getting our fall betting plants in plant wise
at the garden center. We're always fully stocked three hundred
and sixty five days a year on shrubs. So if
you're a di wire that wants to get out and
relandscape your yard with the you know, I say, the
cooler weather, it's just not it's not one hundred degrees outside,

(23:08):
but falls a great time to get in there and
redo your landscaping. So we've got man eight greenhouses full
of completely filled with plants pretty much yep. So you
can get in there and get plants to do that.
It's the season for pre mergent. Chris Keith, I know
that's right now. That is probably the most priority thing
that you need to do for your yard outside of watering,

(23:30):
is get your pre mergent down now. So we got
two options. One, as Harold from Homewood has preached about
for years and years and years as a bag of gold,
it's a pre mergent that we put down twice a year.
You do it once in September and then once in March,
and you're done with your pre mergent for the year.
And the big thing about this premergent is in years past,

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Poanna has built a resistance to our old school pre
emergence that we still use but you know, if you've
used them for years and years and years and you
continually see more and more poanna in your yard in
the spring, you have no choice but to switch to
this new pre mergent because that particular weed has gained

(24:14):
a resistance to the old school pre emergence. So that's
our six month pre emergent program. And then we still
carry all the products for the pre mergent where you
come in and do that every other month to stay
on top of the weeds. But regardless of which one
you do, Program MAY or Program B, I mean, now
is the time that you have to put down pre emergent.
Regardless of how your yard looks. Some people will be all,

(24:37):
my yard looks fine, right, Chris, So I don't need
to do it. I don't need to do anything else
this year. I can pick back up on it next spring. Well,
I can guarantee you we're going to get panic phone
calls from those people saying, oh my gosh, it's March
and I got weeds all over the place. I need
you to come out here, and I need you to
take care of it now. Well, we're telling you right
now that like this is the most important step that

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you can take for how your yard looks next spring,
and that's getting the pre merging down.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
You know a lot of people complaining about burr weed
in the yard. You know, they're walking around out there
with stickers all over the yard, or you know, they
they come in the garden center with a big sack
full of you know, stuff that looks like turnip greens
in the spring, and and we constantly tell them, hey,
you need to start in September, you know, and that
stuff starts germinating when you nighttime temperatures are in the fifties. Well,

(25:27):
guess what, we had a few fifties, you know, we
had we were flirting with the fifties there. Uh, you
know a few days ago, and looks like, you know,
five day forcast. Looks like we're gonna be flirting with
the fifties again, you know, next week. So you know,
with that being said, you got to get your pre
merging out. You know, most people are too busy to

(25:50):
stay on top of it theirself. And that's where we
come in. You call us and we'll come out there
and give you an estimate to start taking care of
the yard. It's just based on your square footage, so
we'll come out there and measure it, and we'll give
you a price to come out there and start treating it.

Speaker 9 (26:04):
And not just the fact that we don't I mean,
we don't forget to come out and put the product out.
But you know, we're very good at diagnosing yards. So
I had a customer and we were talking water. Earlier
in the show. I had a new home, new homeowner,
new customer down Homewood that, uh, I think we probably
treated you yard three or four times. And she had
called mentioned that she was seeing some brown spots pop

(26:26):
up in her backyard. And so I go out there
and everything is just lush green except for the back
right corner. And in that back right corner, the grass
is starting to turn brown while I'm scratching at the
dirt when I'm out there, and the dirt in that
brown area is I'm talking about dry, like a desert.
And then you go over into the green and there's

(26:47):
tons of moisture in the soil. And so I was
talking with the missus and I said, you know, the
irrigation is probably just not hitting that area, so you
need to watch it and check to make sure that
it's getting proper coverage. Because I know it's not and
she would have never thought about that, you know, And
so we got irrigation issues that we diagnose. You got
insect issues, you know, spittlebugs have been popping up in yards.

(27:10):
Chinch Bugs have been a really big deal. I'm talking
about a bad, bad issue over the past like three
or four years. And most people, if they don't know
any better, they think that it's just drought damage in
the yard. But they continue to water and it doesn't
get any better. And so if that's the case, and
it's probably chinch bug issues, and we'll probably start to
see some brown patch fungus popping up, you know, over

(27:32):
the next couple of.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
Weeks, or just simple mowing.

Speaker 9 (27:34):
You know, not everybody's in tune with what's going on
with their yard, but you know, mowing company misses a
week and then they come out and they cut the
grass down real short and then starts turning brown everywhere. Well,
you know, it could have got stunted by the mowing.
So these are all things that we look at, you know,
when we come out and treat you yard. So you
have to get proper diagnosis on that to make sure

(27:55):
that everything stays healthy.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
You see any of fall army worms. No, I'm seeing some.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Moths knock on wood. I haven't seen any yet. And
I was talking with our fertilizer rep that, uh, he's
in tune with everybody. I mean, this guy. If you
want to talk about like a law care nerd, that's uh,
that's James.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
Because he loves it.

Speaker 9 (28:14):
He's basically done everything in this industry. He's treated yards
when he was younger, and then he ran companies and
then he moved up to management and some big companies,
but he always liked he always liked the science behind
like the fertilizers and the disease and the insects and
all that stuff, and so he found his way into
into sales. And it's really I really am thankful and

(28:38):
glad and blessed that I've got James as our fertilizer rep. Because, like,
when I give him a call asking him about a product,
I know that I'm probably going to be on the
phone for about thirty or forty five minutes.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
And it's not just chit chat.

Speaker 9 (28:49):
He's given me like he'd give me like in depth
information about products so I can make the decision on
my own. And anyway, long story, Shore in the he's
he's he said that he's seen very few and heard
very few cases of army worms as of right now.
And you know this, they deal with a lot of
you know, hay operations and agricultural farms, sports turf, you know,

(29:12):
all that type stuff, and they haven't Maybe we might
have missed it this year.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Yeah, I just I'm when I'm mowing down like around
the pond, you know what I'm saying, in my hayfield,
I still hadn't got that taken care of you completely.
But when I'm mowing down there on that low grass
or whatever, I'm I'm seeing some moths coming up, and
usually that's a sign that you might be getting, you know,

(29:37):
some fall army worms or something. So I didn't get
down on my hands and knees and crawl around, and
I don't have any damage down there.

Speaker 7 (29:46):
So you know, it's some of the time, you know,
just because I mean, just because you see the.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Moths or whatever, it doesn't necessarily mean that you've got
like an outbreak or or something of of you know,
army works or whatever. But I mean, if they hit
late enough, it ain't gonna matter anyways, you know. I mean,
and some of the time when the grass is super dry,
like we're starting to get right now, then that kind
of that kind of set some backs, set some back

(30:14):
or whatever anyways, because they really don't have that good, tender,
lush grass to thrive on. And uh, you know so
and most of the time too for whatever is and
bermuda is their candy.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Oh man, I tell you I've seen it in yards, Chris.

Speaker 9 (30:28):
Like if you have a bermuda yard and there's a
patch of centipede or patches oysa in it, the army
worms will basically eat everything except for like the zoysa
grass it's in bermuda.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
It's it's crazy.

Speaker 9 (30:41):
Now they'll still they'll still eat zoysa, but the fibers.
The reason why is like the fibers in zoysa are
stringier and harder to eat. It's like eating a green
bean or a piece of okra that's a foot long. Right,
It's just like it's like chewing on bamboo. Yeah, and uh,
that's that's why they don't eat zoysia attack it much
because it's harder to eat. Yeah, the fire This is

(31:02):
information I learned from our fertilizer it right.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Well, it's just like I mean, you know, if you
think about it.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
I mean, if you take a pallet of bermuda sod
and you leave it out in the sun for four hours,
when you when you unstack it, it's yellow. You know,
because it's it's not as it's you know, as far
as fibrous or whatever. It's just not that much.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
There's a lot more moist and everything.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
You can take a pallet of emeralds oision, leave it
out in the sun ten hours and it won't but
turned yellow.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 7 (31:36):
Ain't that something? Chris is time for another break. Let's
go ahead and do that. Our number.

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Speaker 7 (32:25):
Keith And we're back for the second half of the show.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
And our number, if you want to call it, was
two o five four three nine nine three seven to two.
And Chris, we've been talking a lot about you know,
irrigation and and bugs and and stuff like that. And man,
we we've been working on a job over ross, I
mean a shoe creek on the golf course.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
Man, it has been a dust bowl.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
Yes, I'm sure it has till it was nothing. It's
nothing but dirt.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
You are going you I was, you know, So we
weren't over there yesterday.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
We had some things we had to catch up on,
you know, odds and ends, had to spray some yards
that were gonna be you know, gonna be doing later on,
you know, in the next couple of weeks. And uh
so we had to bounce off of that for a
little bit. And uh yesterday I felt like I had
this like like my chest was tight, you know, and

(33:19):
I had this cough that I wouldn't I wouldn't accomplishing anything,
and I'm coming down the road and I get I
get over here, you know, by Chris's house, and I
turn on turn on Birch from Circle. When I do,
I was like, and I kind of hacked. And when
I did, like, I spit out of water. Mud Man,

(33:41):
My chest has been full of dirt for the last week, honestly.

Speaker 11 (33:47):
Man.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
We we ran machines moving dirt over there for like
three days straight and it just.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Moved, just moving dirt, leveling things out in dust. Yeah,
it's terrible.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
So we've got that done and now we're about to
We're we're working on drainage right now on that job,
and then we'll be working on irrigation on that job,
and then we're gonna be working on shrubs and trees.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
For that job.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
And another company is coming in and doing the grass.
But yeah, it's a it's a big old job.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
Yeah, it sounds like it.

Speaker 7 (34:21):
It's a big old house. But man, we've moved some
dirt Shoal.

Speaker 9 (34:25):
Creaks a nice neighborhood, and we've done We've done long
care working there.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
The golf the golf course is dead, is it really?

Speaker 11 (34:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (34:33):
I been there in a minute.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
Yeah, So it was so weird.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
You pull up, I guess.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yeah, so you're thinking, oh man, you're gonna pull up
on the golf in the show Creaks, one of the
most pristine God, yeah, only in not only in Alabama,
but like in the country. Yeah, you know, and I
pull up and it's dead. It's like I'm not, Oh
my god. And the weird thing about it, you know,
people are still out there playing it.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah you know it the ball I bet the ball
roll is good on that.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
I mean it, even the fairways over there, you know,
a quarter of an inch tall, and uh so they're
playing it and just looks like it's dormant, you know,
but it ain't as dead. And uh so all the
all the uh the actual putting greens, they're all still alive.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
So they left the greens.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Yeah you got you got this twenty five foot round
spot that's now beautiful and green. And you like, the
the whole golf course was like scorched earth. You know,
it just looks it looks funny. But they're about to
they're about to spend a whole lot of money and
uh make that thing yep awesome again.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
That neighborhood's got it.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty neat. We got a collar.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
It's from mount all of it. I didn't catch the name.
Good morning, morning, go guys doing this morning?

Speaker 7 (35:52):
Man, we're doing good. How can we help you today?

Speaker 12 (35:56):
I never studied to be arborist, but I used to
do landscape with this lady and I uh, I took
a sprouting from a green leafing maple off of roots
and a red leafing maple and grow them trees and
they were nice, nice for many years. The green leave
is doing very well, but the red leaf is taking

(36:17):
on dead limbs. Now did you give me any idea
what be going on?

Speaker 7 (36:22):
Yeah, so you may be getting what what's called twig bores.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
And what the what they'll do is they'll bore in,
and as they're bored in, they'll they'll push sawdust out,
and the sawdust will will wake out there and it
looks like a cigarette ashes hanging out there off out there.
I would look for those. The whole won't be any
bigger than the size of a pencil lid. So if

(36:47):
you got that going on, then you know you got
twig bars every fall.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
Yes, uh.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
We recommend a product called fertile on systemic insect drench
And if you got a nice tree in your yard.
I don't care what kind of tree it is. If
you don't want to lose it, you pour some of
this stuff around the base of it once a year
in the fire, and it'll keep you from getting bugs
in that thing.

Speaker 12 (37:11):
Yeah, I noticed none of that. I hadn't looked at clothes,
but I had to saw some limbs though already. But
I will check into that, and I appreciate you very much.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
Those holes are hard to see.

Speaker 9 (37:21):
I meant, even I've got great eyes sight, and I'm
just I all have to sit there almost with a
magnifying glass to see that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
So, but that's probably what their microscopic.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
I mean, the whole is. Literally when I say the
size of a pencil lid, that's that's what it is.
And I think we lost them. But yeah, that's the
best of best advice to just use the fertilong systemic
insect drench. And uh, let's go ahead and get Joe
real quick. Good morning, Joe, how you doing, buddy?

Speaker 11 (37:47):
Hey, Good morning guys. Hey, I went to high school
with Mike Pinder. Uh, tell if you see him, tell
them Joe. Joey Brocado said, Hi, But I do have
a question. Years ago, years ago, I went to hardware
shore way out in the country, uh, and this man
sold me something in a bag granulated a granulated product

(38:08):
in a bag that the railroad used, and it was
some type of weed killer and it actually must have
sterilized the dirt. It was something good. Is that illegal
to get now? Or you know, how would you keep
like off of a property line that will never have
anything on it but a fence, no grass, no flowers,
no trees, where it would just like round up on steroids.

Speaker 9 (38:30):
Yeah, there's there's soil sterilants available. Paramatol is one that's
pretty pretty common.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Parmatolls. Parmatoll is a little more like Parmatol. You can
buy over the counter.

Speaker 11 (38:44):
And it can I get it from you guys.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
I don't know that. I don't know that we sell
that anymore.

Speaker 9 (38:50):
That's not something that we ever really sold a lot
of because a lot of people don't use.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
It that WI wand be more for like if you
were trying to put it on your drive way or
like something like that. So like if you had a
gravel driveway and you wanted to go in and spray
it and have like a total vegetation control like that.

Speaker 11 (39:08):
Then that was Yeah, that's what that's what I want
to do. Yeah, that's what i'd like to do. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
It basically just gives you a longer control and you
can buy it in a granulated form where you just
broadcasted out there.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
We tried it at the garden center.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
It didn't work that good for us because we water
every day, so the product leads a lot faster. But
like if you had just normal, if you had so
we used it like on the aisleways and you know,
out in the in the tree bed and stuff like that,
and we put out and it worked pretty good. The
only problem is is the irrigation runs every day, so

(39:44):
it leached out too fast. In the garden center, where
you might get a year's control or you know, nine months,
ten months control, we were only getting like two or
two months control or three months control. Well, I mean
that ain't even any better than the spraying round up,
so it wasn't really a for us in that case.
There's another product that I used to sell back when
I was at the co op, and you'd have to

(40:05):
have a restricted pesticide permit to use it, but it's
called spike and it's uh, it's for like if you're
trying to kill like fence rows, and you like never
want anything to come back on it for like a year,
you know, ten years kind of thing.

Speaker 11 (40:22):
I mean. Was that great? Was that granular? Was that granulated?

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Now it was a it was it was a water
soluble powder and you would mix it up in like
a tank sprayer and use it.

Speaker 7 (40:35):
But again you had to be you had to be
the man to buy it.

Speaker 11 (40:40):
I got you with the only thing I remember about this,
the guidet the hardware store. That's his way out of
the country. He recommends, he said, whatever you do, don't
let it, don't let it get wet, right even rain
on it or whatever. For a long time, it would
run off and it would cut a path to your neighbors.
I said, oh, I understand that. And I had it
a little bit run off in my property and that
was okay. But he was right. It cut a path

(41:02):
and I don't think anything grew there for a long
long time, which is what I wanted. You know, if
you've got to, if you can control it, it did
exactly what I wanted. Where would I I know, if
you guys don't sell it. Where would I find it?
Just a farm farm store or where where would I get.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
You know, yeah, you might have to go to a
farmer's co op, probably one of the bigger ones. I'm
not sure what area of town you're in, but you
may have to go out to like Talladega, or you know,
go out and go out to one of our blunt
county co op.

Speaker 9 (41:29):
Like you talking about back in the day, you got
this old farm store way out in the middle of nowhere.
It's going to be one of those out in the
countryside where all the farmers and hayfields and cattle farmers are.

Speaker 11 (41:40):
Okay, let me ask one more question. If I needed
that type of weak control, not exactly using that product,
but if I needed a traditional weak control on a
fence line at my shop, for example, would you guys
come out and do that? You know, we're not worried
about really growing grass. Our job, our business, we're cobline guard.
Our job is cut grass in the equipment part of it.

(42:01):
Do you guys come out and just do my fence
line for me? Can you can you offer that service?

Speaker 9 (42:06):
That's something that I could look at. You could give
our office a call. I mean we're not there. We're
not there. We're there Monday through Friday eight to four.
But if you wanted to call our office and leave
a message, I could take a look at that. I
do a couple of commercial sites where we do vegetation
control like that.

Speaker 11 (42:23):
Oh, that'd be about it. Okay, you guys don't work.
We don't work on saturdays anymore either. You guys don't
work on saturdays anymore.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
No, sure, don't.

Speaker 11 (42:31):
Okay, I don't blame you. Yeah, that's that people. Yeah,
give you a good gives you a good week.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
Everybody values time with family, So that's that's that's Oh.

Speaker 11 (42:39):
Yeah, well that's that's why we after forty years, that's
why we finally figured out the hard way thinking everybody
needs to kind of at least a two day weekend.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
That's right.

Speaker 11 (42:49):
All right, Hey guys, I appreciate it so much. You
guys have a good weekend.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Thank you, Joe, Thank you, Joe. Appreciate your call. Yeah,
that's a good question. There's all different kinds of products
on the market or whatever. You just have to a
lot of times you'll have to go out in the
country to find some of that stuff because it's just
not readily available in a small small faunasor obviously you
can't go in a big box store and buy heavy

(43:14):
duty chemicals like that.

Speaker 7 (43:15):
But Chris, time for Breakless Squad and do that. We'll
be right back on the Classic Gardens and Landscape Show.

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Speaker 12 (47:11):
Hey, guys, listen, So what what's the latest date, latest
month or time that I can put out fall pre emergent.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
What's what kind of like you need it?

Speaker 9 (47:21):
Like yesterday now September, you know, anytime, anytime during September is.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
Is you got some windows.

Speaker 9 (47:28):
It's not like it's not like weeds, you know, all
coordinate like a massive attack and they're going to say
we're going to germinate on you know, September seventeenth at
three point fifty three pm.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
You know, September. September is that month and even in October.

Speaker 9 (47:44):
So like like this bag of gold pre mergent that
we're talking about, it actually has it actually has a
post a slight post emerging effect. So if you do
have some weed seeds germinate, that pre mergent will actually
still eliminate those weed seeds. But I mean, you don't
want to wait till November, December, January. I mean, but
you want to go down that September time frame.

Speaker 12 (48:05):
You guys have that shot. It's at where are you located?

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Eight eighteen fifty five Carson.

Speaker 12 (48:12):
Road, Carson Road, and that's the garden shop.

Speaker 6 (48:16):
Yes, sir, sure is Monday through Friday, eight to four.

Speaker 12 (48:20):
You got it. I'll see you guys a few days,
all right, we'll be there, Thanks, Bud, take care.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
Yeah, there's a whole big old paletteful of the sack
of gold laying there, and all you gotta do is
come get a sack, spread it on your yard and
you ain't got to worry about having a turnt green pack.
That's right.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
It's as simple as that man.

Speaker 7 (48:40):
Speaking of turret green patch. Boy, I'll have a good
Oh I.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Saw I saw you with your back of the mill
organ night.

Speaker 9 (48:46):
And then not long not far behind that, I saw
you carrying an orang ful of collars, and I was like, yes.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Sir, so I got I got some plants for me,
but I also got some plants for a couple of
buddies of mine. And uh so I got I got broccoli.
I got me half a dozen cabbage or a dozen
cabbage plants. I got a I got me some collars.
I'm gonna stop down here at Central Sea because I
thought I had some turnip green seed. Apparently I sold

(49:11):
all of them.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
Yeah, you grew every turnip green seed that you had
last year.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Yeah you could tell it too, man, because I had
like six hundred square foot of turnip greens and the
boy and that, I mean, they came up together.

Speaker 7 (49:22):
What the whole plan was.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
I was gonna plant a bunch like that because I
was scared the deer was gonna eat them, you know,
And I said, well, they'll have their share and I
have my share, and.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
Everybody will be here, whether deer didn't need it, wether
deer didn't need it.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
Because I put mill organite all over the garden like
every three weeks, and uh it kept them, you know,
at Bay, So I had this massive, uh turnip green patch,
and uh, you know, everybody got their fair share and.

Speaker 7 (49:49):
Life was good. Plus a man I had plenty.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Well, Chris, that music means we're out of time. Uh,
y'all come see. It's the Garden Center money through Friday,
eight to four. And uh, if you need landscaping or
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It's eight five four, four thousand and five. We'll see
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