November 16, 2025 • 47 mins
Alarm bells are officially starting to ring after a third-quarter collapse left the Clippers down by double digits in Phoenix, and it only got worse from there. Adam's got the full analysis on what went wrong, what changes should come to the lineup, and where the Clippers can go after 3-5 start to the season. Carlo Jimenez stops by for postgame thoughts, and the calls of Clipper Nation light up the phone lines.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The game is done, wrap this one up. Now the
reaction begins. This is Clippers Locker Room, your post game
look at the LA Clippers on the LA Clippers Audio Network.
Now your pre and postgame host Adam Osland.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, the Phoenix Suns were hotter than a Gila monster
sitting on a volcanic rock in Phoenix as they beat
the Clippers one fifteen to one oh two, with nineteen
three pointers and an avalanche of them coming in the
third quarter in the second half. Welcome into your postgame show.
I'm Adam Oslin as the Clippers drop to three and
five on this young season coming up, We'll get to
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your phone calls on Clippers Talk if you want to
get on early eight six six nine, eight seven two
five seventy and if I throw you on hold, we'll
just hold on. We gotta get through this postgame blocker
room show first, and let's get back out to Carlo
Jimenez in Phoenix. Carlo, not a lot of pose in
this one. The Clippers had a three point lead at
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the half and then simply got ambushed in that third quarter.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, you knew it was gonna be tough. No Kawhi Leonard,
No James Harden for the Clippers in this one. They
were zering three last year when that happened, but it
proved impossible when Phoenix Adams started, I believe seven for
seven from.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Eight eight, eight for eight, even.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Where we don't want to short them.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, eight for eight to start the quarter. I mean
that was just unreal, and they hit shots and the
Clippers couldn't rotate defensively. They turned the ball over and
Phoenix burned them almost every single time. I mean twenty
six points off fifteen turnovers. I believe it was twenty
six off thirteen turnovers till the very end there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So for the Clippers, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You struggled to get back and struggled to find consistent offense.
And the Phoenix Suns shot incredible Jalen Green, what a
debut in a Phoenix uniform. Twenty nine points ten of
twenty from the field. And then you look at the
other side. The Clippers needed Bradley Beal to play well
and he shot two for fourteen and it wasn't his night,
and that just I think boils down that what happened today, Adam.
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The Clippers survived in the first half without brad playing well.
They needed him to play well in the second half
and it didn't come through, and nobody else could kind
of carry the load.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, Visa Zubas ended up with twenty three and eleven
and had sixteen of his twenty three points in the
first half. But early in the third quarter it felt
like the Clippers were trying to match them from three
instead of continuing to feed a Visa Zubats, who had
a distinct advantage. They got caught up in it maybe
a little bit, and obviously the turnovers started to pile
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up as well, as they had five in the third
quarter when they only had five in the first half. Meanwhile,
it was the Phoenix Suns cutting down on them. But
you point something out early on the ballgame. The Suns
had nine offensive rebounds in the first half. They finished
with fifteen of them, and towards the end of that
third quarter, even when they started to miss, they kept
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getting extra possessions.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They had seventeen second shots, and it's unbelievable in this game,
they only hit five of them, and they still finished
with seventeen second chance points.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So a lot of those at them that will tell
you were threes.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Like Phoenix had a lot of threes on offensive rebounds
and were able to kick and find shooters who hit
big shots for the Clippers in this one. I think
they there is the Obviously you could lean back and say, well,
we didn't have Kawhi and James and Phoenix hit you know,
nineteen threes on almost forty percent from the field. If
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you have James and Kawhi, it's probably hard to win
this game with that shooting. But I think for this team,
Adam who's now fallen to three and five, it's the
urgency is now right, like the pressure is on. I
know it's eight games in, but this is ten percent
of the season, right, Like you got to start.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Piling them up.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
You look at the schedule, it's not getting any easier
for this Clipper team. I mean they got Phoenix on
Saturday at them, and then Denver is next week as
part of that schedule. I think Atlanta's coming to town.
It will just won't be easy for this Clipper team.
And you have to imagine there are gonna be some shakeups,
whether that's in the starting lineup, whether that's in the rotation.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Tylu Is somebody who's patient.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But at this point in the season, I think you
have to assess that whatever is going on now probably
isn't working a ton. I think camp Christie could be
a huge benefit for this Clipper team. I thought he
looked great against Phoenix's starters. I know it's not close game,
late situation, but as somebody who could just get ahead
of the defense, Like how many times was he leaking
ahead of the Phoenix defense? How many times was he
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battling for a rebound on the offensive class? He was
really really impressive in this game. I also think Adam
we might see a little more Yannick, just because when
Lopez is out there, it's hard to get a guy
who's gonna dive on the floor who's gonna get back Defensively,
Yannick speeds them up on the offensive end. I just
think this team needs an injection of energy right now
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on both ends.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, some youthful exuberants and that energy. As you mentioned,
Cam Christy with his young career high of seventeen points,
the game didn't look too bad for him when he
got first half minutes in a tight ballgame. I thought
he acquitted himself himself very well. And if CP three
and Bogie are going to continue to struggle offensively. Maybe
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that's the answer. Maybe a lot of people thought, you know,
Cam Christy is still a year away. Well, he looked
great in Summer League. He was much better defensively, He
was much better with the ball in his hands getting downhill.
He showed some growth there. I don't hate the idea
of finding a young guy that can soak up some
minutes right now, as the Clippers just look well, we
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knew they were the oldest team in NBA history coming
into this season. They've looked the part so far, unfortunately,
and maybe it's getting their sea legs and processing out
there just hasn't been what it's been in the past.
But look, I still think a lot of these guys
are gonna end up contributing. But right now, you talked
about it. The sense of urgency has to be there,
and coach low in that ten game or fifteen game
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sample and may get cut down to an eight game
sample or a nine game samp coming up, because that
game against Phoenix and the rematch it into a Dome
on Saturday feels huge for this ball club.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I mean, you don't want to start three and
six if there are a lot of people I mean,
myself included, Adam, I thought this team was gonna start
eight and.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Two, seven and three at worst.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, yeah, So this is just something that is time
to a little bit figure out, all right, what do
the Clippers do here to try to get back on
tramp Now. The perfect answer is you get James Harden
and Kwhi Leonard back will help you a lot, but nonetheless,
just a process has to be better. And I think
not to get all Saban on you, but he always
talked about the process.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Right, how does what habits are you building?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And right now, Adam, you look at the Clippers, and
defensively there are moments where they're building good habits. Offensively,
there are moments where they're building good habits. But consistency
isn't there from this team on either end.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No, they can't play that way for forty eight minutes.
When you see those flashes of what we saw last season,
especially on the defensive end, you're very discouraging to see
them struggling that much on that end when they were
a top three defense last season. The Phoenix Suns win
this one one fifteen to one oh two in Phoenix
over your LA Clippers, who dropped to three and five
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as we mentioned, next ball game against these Phoenix Suns,
but back it into a Dome Saturday night tip off
at seven thirty. Pregame shows starting at six thirty. Carlo,
great call. We'll see you back at the Dome on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
My friend Adam, I get to see that beautiful face
on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Let's go. Let's run it back.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Coming up next, we'll get to your final box score.
We'll take your phone calls, as I see people calling
in tonight after the Clippers get blown out again in
the second half. We're trailing by as many as twenty five,
lose one to fifteen to one oh two to what
was a three and five Phoenix Suns team. Now they're
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four and five, the Clippers three and five. You're back
in of course.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Okay, Russo just tweeted this. Uh, the last five seasons,
the Clippers have started four and four, four and four,
three and five, four and four, three and five, So
this might just be Clipper DNA at this point.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I've been saying since the twenty twenty one season they
haven't gotten off to good starts. They've been able to
rally and figure it out, but it still is a
little bit alarming. Because Kawhi Leonard has been healthy and
played five of these games so far.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I didn't have him and James Harden though, tonight, and
this Clippers team has to be better. We expect that
on Saturday. Carlo will see you. Then take a quick
time out. Clippers lose in Phoenix. I'm out of Moslin's
and you're listening to the Los Angeles Clippers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Let's get back at it. This is LA Clippers basketball
right here on the LA Clippers Audio Network.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Clippers lose one fifteen to one oh two in Phoenix.
But honestly, it wasn't even that close. They were down
by as many as twenty five. This game was over
by the nine minute mark of the fourth quarter. When
they were down by twenty two. It was ninety nine
to seventy seven. And I'll be honest with you, I
fired up the YouTube Clippers Talk. I was ready to go.
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Then it looked like this team was ready to get
out of there. And look, there's some built in excuses
with no Kawhi and no James Harden. And I don't
fault the effort from a lot of these guys tonight.
I don't think that was the issue, but they definitely
ran out of talent and ran out of defense, and
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the Phoenix Suns went nineteen of forty nine from the
outside and just hit the Clippers with a kill shot,
maybe early in that third quarter with four straight made
three pointers, and they started eight of eight from the
field in the third and what was a three point
lead by the Clippers of the half well turned into
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a double digit deficit quickly. And this season feels like
it's quickly getting away from the Clippers. At three and
five now they still have what is seventy four games remaining.
I don't want to panic too much, but I can
see Clipper nation is right now in the chat and
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by those who have already called in the Clipper stock,
we'll get to you guys. After the Clippers lose one
fifteen to one oh two shoot forty four percent from
the field, thirty two percent from three to the Phoenix
Suns forty five percent from the floor, thirty nine percent
from three on a high high volume, nineteen to forty
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nine from distance. The Clippers just got an avalanche of
three pointers put on their head in that third quarter
and throughout the second half, and while Viza Zubas led
them with twenty three and eleven, and Cam Christy had
his career high seventeen in twenty five minutes. There aren't
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many other positives to find in this ballgame.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It is.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Making it tough on me tonight to find those silver
linings after the Clippers dropped a three and five eight
games into the season. They're banged up, Bradley Beal went
two to fourteen and is still on a minute restriction,
and they don't have Kawhi and James Harden tonight, and
we don't know their status for Saturday when they're taking
all the suns and into it dome Ooh, A lot
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of moving parts to this unfortunate start to the twenty
twenty five twenty twenty six season. Hard to put a
finger on just one thing. I know, Clipper Nation, you
might disagree with that. We'll get into it. I'm out
a moslind and you are listening Jerry Clippers postgame Locker
(11:42):
Room Show on the Los Angeles Clippers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
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Speaker 2 (12:02):
The Clippers start off the season three and five and
feel like the Suns hit three of every five to
three pointers they took in this ballgame as they take
down the Clippers in Phoenix one fifteen to one oh two.
Welcome back into your postgame locker room show. I'm at
a Moslin coming up on a five to seventy LA Sports.
We'll have Clippers Talk eight six six nine eight seven
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two five to seventy. I will make sure to get
to all your calls tonight. Don't worry about that. Clipper
Nation might have to do some extended Clippers talk after
this one, because I can see Clipper Nation is distraught, dismayed, discouraged, defeated,
feeling like this season is over. I don't think that's
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the case. They're only eight games in only, but this
is a disastrous start considering the expectations coming in in
how the schedule laid out. Within the first ten games
outside of Los Angeles, we are leaving you until the
Clippers run it back against Phoenix at into a Dome
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on Saturday night, tip off at seven thirty, pre game
at six thirty in LA and on the chat on
Clippers Stock on the YouTube side, do not go anywhere.
We got you coming up.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Next, Welcome in the Clippers Talk, the official postgame show
of the Clippers on the LA Clippers Audio Network. Load
up the phones and make your feelings. No now your
host for Clippers Talk. It's Adam Oslack.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The sun's burned down the nets against the Clippers in
Phoenix and win one fifteen to one two, dropping your
Los Angeles Clippers to three and five on this still
young in early twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six NBA season.
Welcome in. I'm out of Oslin. This is Clipper Stock.
We'll get your phone calls each six nine, eight seven
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two five seventy eight six six ninety seven two five
seventy if you'd like to get on, got one spot open.
This Clippers team is not meeting their expectations for a
variety of reasons. Going into this ballgame tonight, we knew
James Harden was out for personal reasons and Kawhi Leonard
missed his second straight game after returned the right ankle
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late against the Mammi Heat on Monday. So you're missing
your top two guys. A lot of people if you
told them that would go, I could see how you'd
lose to Phoenix one fifteen to one oh two. But
when you actually dig into how this game went, the
Clippers were right there. And by right there, I mean
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they had a lead at the half. That's what makes
this so discouraging. They're up fifty one to forty eight.
They're doing the right things. They only had five turnovers
in the first half. They were turning the suns over
in the second quarter. My Son's had seven turnovers. There
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zuboss was punishing them with sixteen points in the first half.
The Clippers were playing with the right spirit. Even a
young player in cam Christie, I think he's just twenty
years of age or she's still nineteen, had a nice
play and transition for a bucket. Getting real minutes in
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a competitive ballgame. You're thinking, they play like this, with
this level of energy, they're gonna be right there. Third
quarter Stars Beal misses a three. It was short to start.
Many of his shots in this game were Bradley Beal
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not exactly a hero's welcome in Phoenix a villains. They
were booing him all night. He shshed him at one
point when he hit a three pointer, but that was
the only three you would hit, and he went two
of fourteen from the floor, not putting it all on him,
but they obviously needed much more without James Harden and
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Kawhi Leonard tonight. The problem is after he missed that
three to start the third quarter, Jalen Green hit one,
and he had sixteen points in the first half. It
was his first game as a member of the Phoenix Suns.
Of course he comes back when the Clippers are playing them.
He had twenty nine points in the ball game, second
best debut by his son, only behind Charles Barklay. Then
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Royce O'Neill hits a three pointer. Ohlips were up by three.
Well now they're down. Booker hits a three pointer. What
am I seeing here? A Beal turnover, dives on the
floor for a ball, foul called on him going after
it with Grayson Allen scrapping, but a turnover. Nonetheless, NFL.
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It's a thirteen to two run by the Sons, who
now lead by six. The Clippers led by three at
the half. Thought Beal was probably trying to do too
much at times, but they also needed him to And
I hope he got the shooting bunker slumper whatever it's
going on right now, and I know he's on mans restriction,
but he got all the shots he wanted. I hope
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he got it out of his system. This cold streaky,
I think that's the case. The Suns had sixteen points
in the opening three minutes of the third quarter. They
had seventeen points total in the second. They started four
of four from three. After Devin Booker hit another one,
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now they're up ten. Grayson Allen makes it seventy one
to fifty nine. It's a twenty three to eight Sons run.
After a Rois O'Neil three, they're eight of eight from
the field and the Clippers are down fifteen. They start
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eight of eight, The Clippers start four thirteen in the
third quarter, just insane. Rois O'Neil hits another three. They're
up by twenty. The Clippers got away from feeding a
Visa zubots. They tried to answer with jump shots. You're
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not gonna be able to match the Phoenix Suns and
what they were doing with how hot they were, and
guess what, when you're not making shots, it lets them
get out and get into their offense quickly. In transition,
they only had twelve fast break points, felt like more,
but they were attacking quickly off of Clippers missus in
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that third quarter. Collins hit a three pointer to get
it to sixteen, also had a really bad turnover a
couple of them losing it in the crowded paint. Kobe
Brown made an appearance in the third quarter, probably not
the best sign. Coach Lou's looking for a spark, He's
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looking for anything. The Clippers had a bit of a
run near the end of the third in eight oh
run to get it to within twelve, but then when
the Suns even were missing three pointers, they ended up
seven of sixteen in the third total from three after
hitting their first four. The Clippers can't get a rebound.
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The Sons had fifteen offensive rebounds in the game, and
Grayson Allen appropriately so hit a three pointer to end
the third where it goes from an eleven point lead
to a fourteen point lead. Everything good that happened in
the second quarter turned against the Clippers in the third.
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The Clippers took thirteen free throws I want to say
in the first half, hit twelve of them, and the
Suns took I want to say five. Well, then the
Suns were getting to the charity stripe over and over again.
The Clippers only had five turnovers in the first half,
the Sons had eleven. They only had two in the
third quarter. But they did have nine offensive rebounds in
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the first half and that continued into the second half.
And then when the shooting catches up and they stopped
turning the basketball over, well, that's how you get blown out.
The Sons had twenty six points in the first six
minutes of the third. Clippers made a little bit of
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an effort late to get it to within twelve, to
within eleven. But when you're down twenty two with nine
minutes left in the fourth quarter and the backups are
out there, Yannick had a couple of nice plays, and
Cam Christ he played great. You're not coming back from that.
That may be insurmountable down twenty two with nine minutes
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left in NBA history time and score. Though, I remember
the Lakers coming back on the Clippers last season down
twenty one. Okay, I don't want to think about that.
Clippers had a late thirteen to one run. Put some
lipstick on the pig. That was a game where they
were down by as many as twenty five and lost
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one fifteen to one oh two in Phoenix to the Suns.
Granted the caveat the Clippers did not have Kawhi, they
did not have James Harden. They missed their two best players.
But when you're competitive and take the lead into the
first half, you just expect a back and forth ball
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game and not for things to escalate that quickly. They did.
Some of it's hot shooting, some of it's bad defense.
It's been bad defense so far this season. They're twenty
six defensively. I'm just wondering because everybody who was asking
for coach Lou to be fired tonight and has been
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doing that for years, some of you and gave Jeff
Van Gundy all the credit when their defense played good
last year. Does he get any blame now their defense
is not playing good or is all the blame just
going to coach Lou. I'm just wondering, are we going
to be fair? Are we just going to try to
blame coach Lou for everything because John Collins didn't start again,
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Like that was going to be the answer tonight. I
don't think it was. Does that mean I'm against the move?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I said before the OKC game, it's time to have
a sense of urgency. I was ready for it. I
was ready for moves six games in. Now we're eight
games in and they're three and five, But coach low
is preaching patients and saying, we haven't gotten to evaluate
things the way we've wanted to because of injuries, and
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the problem is that gives you a built in excuse
to go further with lineups that may never work. They may,
and he's already made it clear Bradley Beal is a
starter for us. He's not coming off the bench. He's
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not at this point. So what you got one starting
spot up for grabs when this team is healthy. Derreck
Jones juniors and he's played well so far this year.
He's one of the guys. I'm not looking at him
for this three and five start, but it's alarming. They
also still have seventy four games left. It's as alarming
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as it could get though for your first eight games.
Giving the expectations and the moves this Clippers team made
that gave us a lot of hope. And I'm not
giving up on these guys that they brought in off
of a small sample size where the main guy, Bradley Beal,
has been on a ministertriction. I'm just not I've seen
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this so many times before. In fact, Justin Rousseau tweeted
this out and nobody's gonna want to hear it right now.
But the Clippers started last season three and four. They
trailed that next game by twenty five, bright twenty six,
I should say, they won it against San Antonio. That
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was the first ever win at into a dome to
get themselves to four and four. The year before that
they started three and four. They trailed in the next game,
game seven, by thirty one. They would not come back
in that game, started three and five. The point is,
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you can look at it one glass, half four, half empty. Optimist, pessimist.
How are you gonna look at this? How are you
gonna see it? They have started slow consistently since the
twenty twenty one season, the twenty twenty twenty twenty one
season that crosses over from twenty twenty into twenty twenty one.
They have not gotten off to a good start since then.
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They have been starting three and four every year. This
is another year of that, where now they're three and five. Well,
last year they still won fifty games. They still were
able to write the ship. Right now, everything's doom and
gloom and the doomers are out in droves. We'll take
a quick time out before we get to your phone calls.
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Speaker 1 (25:52):
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Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm just saying they can pull out of this tailspan.
I've seen it plenty of times before, Like I don't
know the last two years when they started three and
four and then had runs where they were eighteen and
three at the end of last season. The season before that,
they had a twenty six and five run over thirty
one games, the best regular season stretched and Clippers basketball history.
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I can't give up because there's evidence of this happening
before and them turning it around. I'm sorry, there's a
pattern here. I'm not giving up after eight games more
Clippers sock next turning in five to seventy l A Sports.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Let's get back at it. This is La Clippers basketball
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Speaker 2 (26:56):
Tough night, Cliper Nation, tough starts of the year. The
good news is there aren't eight games left in the season. No,
it's actually they've only played eight games and there's seventy
four left. Seems like there's an opportunity for them to
turn this around as they have done like every year
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the past four or five seasons. So maybe the same
thing could happen again. I don't know. I'm holding out
out for that. I'm holding on to that hope. I'm
not giving up on this squad yet. But if people
want to be angry, if people want to lash out,
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that's what Clippers talk is for. Clipper Edward is calling
in from Granada Hills. Clipper Edward, how you feeling tonight?
Have you hit the panic button on this squad?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
I have definitely hit the panic button. I do not
know where the defensive discipline has gone. The chemistry has
totally disappeared. John Collins has become an embarrassment, a laughing
stock of the team. I can't believe what I am
watching with this kid. Other than that, I have no
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other word.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Wait, why is John Collins become an embarrassment with this team?
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Did you not see him play today?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
So your criticized John Collins play? No, I think he
had some really bad turnovers, some really bad plays. The
majority though, of Clipper Nation is saying you have to
start Collins. The reason we're losing is because Collins isn't starting.
So I'm just I'm a little taken aback that you're
not calling for coach Low's head for not starting John Collins.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Well, no, I definitely think Tylon needs to go because
he's part of the problem. But tonight John Collins was
definitely showing why he's not what we thought he was. Honestly,
I didn't know enough about the guy. I didn't know.
I don't watch a lot of Hawks games, but from
what I'm seeing now, it's just he's not what we needed.
You know, now I'm really missing Norman baw Bradley Beal
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is just I mean, he's another embarrassment, Like where has
this guy gone? I know he was cooked, but I
mean he can't even get us ten points. Nick Batunen,
I love the guy, but I think it's time to
retire tonight. You know, I wouldn't mind if I don't
see him back on the floor again. And I love
the guy, thank you for everything you brought, but I
think it's I mean, we have to make this more
decisions if we want to win games.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So Clip Edward, let me ask you this. And this
goes from many people in this chat and other people
calling in. I'm sure are going to have similar thoughts
and sentiments here, and this could be the overall sentiment
from Clipper Nation at the moment. If Beal drops twenty
easily on Saturday and they beat Phoenix, is everything fine now?
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Like you're saying, all these guys are permanently cooked and
we'll never play well again and it's over. That's what
you're saying.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
No, I'm not saying it's permanently cooked, but I'm just
basing on the LAT five games where they haven't showed
us anything. I mean, even tonight's Zubatch. It looks like
his confidence is gone.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I mean, I thought Zoo looked pretty good. He had
sixteen in the first half. He ended up with twenty
three and eleven. I wish they went to him more
in the third quarter instead of trying to match Phoenix
in the jump shots. I get what you're saying, but
things change.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
I mean off of his misses though.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Let me see how many offensive rebounds he had in
this ball game. He did have five, that's fair.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
I mean he literally couldn't put the ball in the
rint today and then those turnovers. I was just like,
that is not zoobotch. He's so much smarter.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
He had two turnovers.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
I think he's I think he's I think he's lost
his confidence because that's how bad that he is playing.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
All right, I appreciate the phone call. I hope you
call in when I believe they turn this around.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
And the night was the first game I actually got
to watch on TV. So anytime I get to watch
on TV, oh, expecting my call.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
All right, Clipper Edward, we'll be looking for you. Chris
in La Chris, you're on Clipper stop without a malls
and what's up?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Chris?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
A Hey, Adam, how are you?
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Let's talk intelligent basketball now, please like we always do,
like we did the last game win after the OKC game.
If you recall I I sit three rows behind the
visitor bench at every Clipper home game and a half
for many years. That last Pauler. We can't have callers
like that. John Collins is thirty for fifty four on
the season. He's shooting fifty five percent from the floor.
I don't know what that guy's watching or hearing. And
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John Cowins is well.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
To be fair, To be fair, Chris, he did admit
this was the only game he's seen so far.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Well, you don't have to watch it to look at
the stats and listen to the game. I mean, the
litmus test is John Collins is not the problem. Here's
the problem. And we talked about it the other night.
You kind of pooh pooed me a little bit, and
I love you, Adam. Chris Paul is one of the
major problems. Chris Paul six for twenty five on the season.
He's shooting twenty four percent. He's made one, I think
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maybe two two pointers. He's completely a non factor. He
can't guard anyone. And finally this said, we're not gonna
play anymore. We're gonna play Cam Christy. Here's the bright
spot again. Zubach is forty eight for eighty two on
the years. He's got a little bit of a slow start,
but Zubach was back tonight. We go as Zubac goes.
When Zubak gets fifteen to seventeen touches a game, we
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typically win. He's got to touch the basketball. Coming into
this game, he hadn't shot eighty two shots so far.
I think he had sixty eight shots coming into the game,
where Harden and Leonard had one oh three and one
oh two.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, Zubos was in single digit shot attempts his last
three games, so it was nice to see it be
featured more.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Hey, thank Chris.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Nobody has been talking about Zoo getting the ball more.
I can pull up tweets from twenty twenty one. This
has been my campaign. I've been crying about this for every.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Two I mean too when he touches, and go look
at the stats and I challenge your stat guru team
over there at the radio station. The games that Zubach
touches at thirteen times or more, we win seventy five
plus percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I don't doubt there's something in that range with him.
There is a direct correlation of eats a Zoo boss
punishes teams.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Here's the challenge of why I'm concerned. We keep taught
and I'm not panic button or any of that, but
this is what why I'm concerned. Okay, forget about the
last three or four years. Those last three or four years,
sure we have the same starting record as we do
now are very similar, four and four, three and five,
whatever the case may be. However, our four losses this year,
four of our five losses were blowouts, not even competitive.
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Three of those losses were blowouts on the road. Every
road game we played this year, we've gotten smoked and
we were close in the first half. But everybody knows
in the NBA it's the second half adjustments and second
half game it's and so what concerns me is horrible.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
They made the wrong adjustment. The Phoenix Suns hit every
three pointer. It was the wrong adjustment.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
No, well, listen, it's not about the adjustment and the
guys are going to make shots and misshots, but at
the end of the day, you got to run them
off the line. But there's it's not about when game
it's it's in totality. Again we talked about the other night.
Four of the five losses were blowouts. That's not Clipper basketball.
That's not what we saw. Out of the three out
of the four of the five, we didn't get blown out.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Well in game they were getting blown out and came
back and won against San Antonio in game seven or
excuse me, in game eight. So we're comparing game eights
of the last two years. But we did game last season.
They came.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
I get it, but we lost four of our five
games this year were blowouts, and all three on the
road were blowouts. That is a concern to me. And
and what I mean by that is, let's get some
infusion of the young players. Cam Christy played great to
or Christie played great tonight, let's get him. I know
Jordan Miller's on with the hamstring, but really it's because
he can only play certain leagues because he's on that.
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On that two way contrast.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You're looking for young guys to keep you from getting
blown out. I would point to a lot of young
teams that get out all the time. Like that's like
I under supplement, supplement with some young guys. If you
want Cam Christy to play more, I'm interested in that.
But you can't just have all of a sudden this
young roster turnover. With all these young guys playing, it's
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you're not gonna win games.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Not what I'm no. I agree, but that's not what
I'm saying. It's a mix of both. That's not what
I'm saying. What I'm saying is a mix of both
young and old.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
But what you said, Camp and I'm like, are we
playing all the young guys all of a sudden like we.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
No, no, but we've got to play some because we
don't play them enough. And the other teams are playing
younger players look around us and number two on top
of all this, So if you allow me to just
finish real quick and I'm sorry to dominate all the
time you are out on us, they're gonna they're going
to pick us up ninety four feet the whole time
and get up in us defensively and they're gonna push
us all in transition.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
To the same thing last year, and the Clippers still
won fifty games. When it comes to that style of
play and what they're we we did not.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
We did not lose four games this way in blowout
fashion at him and.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Okay, hold on, hold on. I make a point that
teams knew last season to do what they're doing against
the Clippers this season, and they still won fifty games.
And then do you just go back to they have
not been blown out this many times and this like
I get it.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I think that at the beginning of our season, the
roster at the beginning of the season last year had
young players. Kevin Porter Jr. Was playing no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm saying later in the season when they got older,
when Kawhi came back, they turned the ball over way less.
The correct analysis is they shouldn't be turning the ball
over as much because they didn't at the end of
last season when they had Kawhi back, So there's less
of an excuse now with a healthy Kawhi for them
to be turning the ball over as much as they are.
I appreciate the phone call, Chris, you talk a lot.
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I gotta get some more people. Eli, whit you here? Eli?
What's up?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
I got you look here?
Speaker 8 (36:55):
Okay? Nice? Well kind of I was gonna say, kind
of guys talking a bit about it, but just really quick. Yeah,
I'm not too nervous yet because I think you need
like maybe like a fifteen to twenty games sample size
then you can hit panic button. But first of all,
I did want to say, the disappointment for me comes
into comparison to last season with the level of competition
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and personnel. I understand that we do have some injuries
with bel and I forgot who else, But I think
the main point is that looking at last season and
the way the team started and had more closer games
compared to now, where he had Brook Lopez a film obamba.
You have bogdan Bogdanovich. You don't have taking for a junior,
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faking the lack of discipline and like you said, turning
the ball over and making these big mistakes for a
veteran team I think is honestly the biggest disappointment.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I would say this, when you talk about the turnovers
and everybody wants to go after the coaching staff, I
would point to you to Tillmarazzari's Twitter, who coming into
this game yesterday, he posted every single turnover so far
this season by the Clippers, and there is a real
hard argument to make that it's on the coaching staff
and not lacks of day'sical players making miserable passes out there.
(38:13):
Like the players have to be better, they have to
be much better. I know that wasn't exactly your point. Yeah,
I just wanted to get that out there, Eli, But
anything else.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
Yeah, no, for sure, and thanks for clarifying. But yeah, no,
it's mainly that I think one hope I do have
and this is kind of a weird parallel, I would say,
do play cam Moore, especially if Bogdanovich is doing pretty
terrible because he is a young player obviously who shows
the grit. But it's gonna sound weird, but if you
look at the Phoenix Suns last year when they were
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winning games, they actually were playing their two rookies, Ryan
Dunn and Igudaro, and they actually had some energy, not
saying they're like the tippy point of games, but on
the defensive end and just the energy standpoint, they gained
that team which they'd have a lot of vetteran and
had a decent start kind of a bit more of
the energy.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
So they also didn't make the play.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
So that's the way.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
Later and if you do look at the stats, they
did play the rookies a lot less, and that was
a big criticism of good Enclosures.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Or budd all right, I got you, Eli, I appreciate
the phone call. Okay, become a regular here.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Well problem, thank you, quick time.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Out as we do have to take breaks here. Clippers
fall to three and five. They lose one to fifteen
to one oh two to the Phoenix Suns in Phoenix.
I'm out of Mosland and you're listening to Clippers stock
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Speaker 2 (39:48):
Clippers lose again. So the Phoenix Suns, who they had
beaten for their first victory into a dome to start
off this season. Now they lose in Phoenix tonight. We're
getting blown out in the second half half after leading
by three in the first half. Final score Suns one
to fifteen, Clippers one oh two. Ryan and Burbank, Ryan,
you're on Clipper stop with that on Maaz And what's up?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Adam? How are you?
Speaker 5 (40:12):
That was a fun game, wasn't it? Did you have fun?
Are we not entertained? I'm being I'm being sarcastic.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Good Zee, I know, I know the.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
I think a couple of callers have hinted at this,
and I think I mean, I think we're seeing it
with our own eyes to a certain extent. Right, We
went into this season as Quipper Vans seen and like
we addressed a lot of the shortcomings that were last season.
Beginning of last season, correct, there was no ball handler
for James in the in the in the backup unit. Right,
we thought, hey, Seep three, give us give us thirteen
to fifteen solid minutes a game to spell James Harden,
(40:49):
We'll take that. Brooke Lopez give us thirteen to sixteen
minutes a game to spell Zubak, We'll take that.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
You know again, John Collins, I think has been the
bright spot right for many Clipper fans. I could speak
for myself when I say John Collins isn't the problem here?
The problem that I think that we're finding this, I.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Would ask little I heard this already once tonight. He's
not the problem. I agree with that. My question is
is he the solution? Is he the cure all? And
I don't think that is the case either. I do
think he can help them.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah, and I tend to agree with you, Adam. I
don't think he's the cure all. He probably needs to
play more than twenty five minutes a game, but I'm
not sure playing him thirty plus is going to just
cure all the Clippers' ills for this season. At the
same time, though, I think the real question becomes, are
is Brook Lopez and or CP three? Are they done?
(41:42):
Are they are?
Speaker 4 (41:42):
They?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Are they not going to be the solution? Because that's
the biggest issues I see right now. Again, game whatever game,
the game agains to Miami James Harden plays nearly forty
minutes in that game. We're five games into the season,
six games in the season, Adam, He's playing forty minutes.
I mean, like, that's that's the concerning thing to me.
(42:03):
When I look at this team, I go the guys
we thought were going to be helping the bench unit,
I'm not entirely sure they are. And that's that's the
issues that I have with this squad right now. And again,
like you said earlier, Kawhi Leonard's been healthy for the
most part and he's played great. Yet the Clippers are
three and five. James Harden has been healthy and he's played,
(42:25):
by all it counts, very good basketball. They're three and five.
Zubac has you know, again you up and down on
Zubac a little bit. I'm gonna I'm gonna concede that one.
He hasn't played, I think, to the fullest potential we
saw him of last year. But yet they're three and five.
And again, I understand Bradley Beal's on a ministrastition. He's
not where he needs to be at Okay, okay, But
(42:46):
the other pieces of this team, to me, at least
when I when I'm watching the eye test, I'm not
convinced that they're they're helping us. And again, Adam, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
One is arguing that Brook Lopez are helping them right
now or doing what we thought they would be doing.
The argument is, does this mean they're done or do
you need to give them more time? Because it's only
eight games, and to me, it would be crazy to
give up on guys with this body of work this soon.
(43:16):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
And Adam, I don't necessarily disagree with you with that.
I just think the question is when when can we
as fans hit the panic button? Because the forty twenty
rule still applies, right we still talking about the forty twenty,
the forty twenty rule, you know, the forty wins, the
four twenty loss. The Clippers have five now, and and
and and and you've you've pointed this out too out
And I think a lot of Clippers stands have two.
(43:41):
When I looked at this first ten games, they said
this Clipper team should go seven to three, it should
go soppy worse. We penciled in at worst, we penciled
in a couple offers. We said, hey, I'll probably lose, Okay,
see on back to back. They'll probably lose. You know,
they'll probably lose one of the Sun games. Maybe they'll
lose the Warriors game. You know, I can, I can.
I can accept that as a Cliper saying I don't
expect them to be perfect, Ryan. But now there's three, three,
(44:04):
and five and four. The losses at them have been blowouts.
I'm with you, blowouts.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Part I was.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I did a whole show on Clippers Talk after the
loss of Miami's saying there needs to be a sense
of urgency. Now we're two games further in with two
more losses. I'm with you. I'm with you, Ryan. I
appreciate the phone call quick time out. Clippers lose in
Phoenix one fifteen to one oh two. The difference is
(44:33):
and the callers have been pretty good about this. The
chat is the chat, and it's like every chat that's
ever been to some degree on the Internet, where it's
going to be doom and gloom and the sky is
falling completely in the season is over. I'm not there
after eight games. That's where we may differ more. Clippers
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Speaker 8 (45:21):
Quickly here, Joe, Hey, Adam, all right, So I just
want to do some objective analysis here. What in your
opinion with no caveats, are Tylo's top three greatest flaws
as a coach?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Uh? Top three? I don't know if I want to
go top three, but I will say there are times
and I can't I can't know this for certain because
as much as he can seem calm and cool after losses,
sometimes and he doesn't have the fire and brimstone that
everybody wants. I can't tell you that behind the scenes
(45:58):
for certain, coach is not always like that. But sometimes
it can come across as coach Lou is too cool
for school or whatever, or doesn't have that sense of
urgency that you're looking for. That that's the one thing
that I would say I can understand people feeling when
(46:19):
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Speaker 6 (46:35):
Oh?
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Now your pre and postgame host Adam Osland.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, the Phoenix Suns were hotter than a Gila monster
sitting on a volcanic rock in Phoenix as they beat
the Clippers one fifteen to one oh two, with nineteen
three pointers and an avalanche of them coming in the
third quarter in the second half. Welcome into your postgame show.
I'm Adam Oslin as the Clippers drop to three and
five on this young season coming up, We'll get to
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get on early eight six six nine, eight seven two
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room show first, and let's get back out to Carlo
Jimenez in Phoenix. Carlo, not a lot of pose in
this one. The Clippers had a three point lead at
(01:03):
the half and then simply got ambushed in that third quarter.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, you knew it was gonna be tough. No Kawhi Leonard,
No James Harden for the Clippers in this one. They
were zering three last year when that happened, but it
proved impossible when Phoenix Adams started, I believe seven for
seven from.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Eight eight, eight for eight, even.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Where we don't want to short them.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, eight for eight to start the quarter. I mean
that was just unreal, and they hit shots and the
Clippers couldn't rotate defensively. They turned the ball over and
Phoenix burned them almost every single time. I mean twenty
six points off fifteen turnovers. I believe it was twenty
six off thirteen turnovers till the very end there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
So for the Clippers, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You struggled to get back and struggled to find consistent offense.
And the Phoenix Suns shot incredible Jalen Green, what a
debut in a Phoenix uniform. Twenty nine points ten of
twenty from the field. And then you look at the
other side. The Clippers needed Bradley Beal to play well
and he shot two for fourteen and it wasn't his night,
and that just I think boils down that what happened today, Adam.
(02:04):
The Clippers survived in the first half without brad playing well.
They needed him to play well in the second half
and it didn't come through, and nobody else could kind
of carry the load.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, Visa Zubas ended up with twenty three and eleven
and had sixteen of his twenty three points in the
first half. But early in the third quarter it felt
like the Clippers were trying to match them from three
instead of continuing to feed a Visa Zubats, who had
a distinct advantage. They got caught up in it maybe
a little bit, and obviously the turnovers started to pile
(02:34):
up as well, as they had five in the third
quarter when they only had five in the first half. Meanwhile,
it was the Phoenix Suns cutting down on them. But
you point something out early on the ballgame. The Suns
had nine offensive rebounds in the first half. They finished
with fifteen of them, and towards the end of that
third quarter, even when they started to miss, they kept
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getting extra possessions.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They had seventeen second shots, and it's unbelievable in this game,
they only hit five of them, and they still finished
with seventeen second chance points.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So a lot of those at them that will tell
you were threes.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Like Phoenix had a lot of threes on offensive rebounds
and were able to kick and find shooters who hit
big shots for the Clippers in this one. I think
they there is the Obviously you could lean back and say, well,
we didn't have Kawhi and James and Phoenix hit you know,
nineteen threes on almost forty percent from the field. If
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you have James and Kawhi, it's probably hard to win
this game with that shooting. But I think for this team,
Adam who's now fallen to three and five, it's the
urgency is now right, like the pressure is on. I
know it's eight games in, but this is ten percent
of the season, right, Like you got to start.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Piling them up.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
You look at the schedule, it's not getting any easier
for this Clipper team. I mean they got Phoenix on
Saturday at them, and then Denver is next week as
part of that schedule. I think Atlanta's coming to town.
It will just won't be easy for this Clipper team.
And you have to imagine there are gonna be some shakeups,
whether that's in the starting lineup, whether that's in the rotation.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Tylu Is somebody who's patient.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But at this point in the season, I think you
have to assess that whatever is going on now probably
isn't working a ton. I think camp Christie could be
a huge benefit for this Clipper team. I thought he
looked great against Phoenix's starters. I know it's not close game,
late situation, but as somebody who could just get ahead
of the defense, Like how many times was he leaking
ahead of the Phoenix defense? How many times was he
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battling for a rebound on the offensive class? He was
really really impressive in this game. I also think Adam
we might see a little more Yannick, just because when
Lopez is out there, it's hard to get a guy
who's gonna dive on the floor who's gonna get back Defensively,
Yannick speeds them up on the offensive end. I just
think this team needs an injection of energy right now
(04:50):
on both ends.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, some youthful exuberants and that energy. As you mentioned,
Cam Christy with his young career high of seventeen points,
the game didn't look too bad for him when he
got first half minutes in a tight ballgame. I thought
he acquitted himself himself very well. And if CP three
and Bogie are going to continue to struggle offensively. Maybe
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that's the answer. Maybe a lot of people thought, you know,
Cam Christy is still a year away. Well, he looked
great in Summer League. He was much better defensively, He
was much better with the ball in his hands getting downhill.
He showed some growth there. I don't hate the idea
of finding a young guy that can soak up some
minutes right now, as the Clippers just look well, we
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knew they were the oldest team in NBA history coming
into this season. They've looked the part so far, unfortunately,
and maybe it's getting their sea legs and processing out
there just hasn't been what it's been in the past.
But look, I still think a lot of these guys
are gonna end up contributing. But right now, you talked
about it. The sense of urgency has to be there,
and coach low in that ten game or fifteen game
(05:55):
sample and may get cut down to an eight game
sample or a nine game samp coming up, because that
game against Phoenix and the rematch it into a Dome
on Saturday feels huge for this ball club.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I mean, you don't want to start three and
six if there are a lot of people I mean,
myself included, Adam, I thought this team was gonna start
eight and.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Two, seven and three at worst.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, yeah, So this is just something that is time
to a little bit figure out, all right, what do
the Clippers do here to try to get back on
tramp Now. The perfect answer is you get James Harden
and Kwhi Leonard back will help you a lot, but nonetheless,
just a process has to be better. And I think
not to get all Saban on you, but he always
talked about the process.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Right, how does what habits are you building?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And right now, Adam, you look at the Clippers, and
defensively there are moments where they're building good habits. Offensively,
there are moments where they're building good habits. But consistency
isn't there from this team on either end.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No, they can't play that way for forty eight minutes.
When you see those flashes of what we saw last season,
especially on the defensive end, you're very discouraging to see
them struggling that much on that end when they were
a top three defense last season. The Phoenix Suns win
this one one fifteen to one oh two in Phoenix
over your LA Clippers, who dropped to three and five
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as we mentioned, next ball game against these Phoenix Suns,
but back it into a Dome Saturday night tip off
at seven thirty. Pregame shows starting at six thirty. Carlo,
great call. We'll see you back at the Dome on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
My friend Adam, I get to see that beautiful face
on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Let's go. Let's run it back.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Coming up next, we'll get to your final box score.
We'll take your phone calls, as I see people calling
in tonight after the Clippers get blown out again in
the second half. We're trailing by as many as twenty five,
lose one to fifteen to one oh two to what
was a three and five Phoenix Suns team. Now they're
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four and five, the Clippers three and five. You're back
in of course.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Okay, Russo just tweeted this. Uh, the last five seasons,
the Clippers have started four and four, four and four,
three and five, four and four, three and five, So
this might just be Clipper DNA at this point.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I've been saying since the twenty twenty one season they
haven't gotten off to good starts. They've been able to
rally and figure it out, but it still is a
little bit alarming. Because Kawhi Leonard has been healthy and
played five of these games so far.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I didn't have him and James Harden though, tonight, and
this Clippers team has to be better. We expect that
on Saturday. Carlo will see you. Then take a quick
time out. Clippers lose in Phoenix. I'm out of Moslin's
and you're listening to the Los Angeles Clippers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Let's get back at it. This is LA Clippers basketball
right here on the LA Clippers Audio Network.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Clippers lose one fifteen to one oh two in Phoenix.
But honestly, it wasn't even that close. They were down
by as many as twenty five. This game was over
by the nine minute mark of the fourth quarter. When
they were down by twenty two. It was ninety nine
to seventy seven. And I'll be honest with you, I
fired up the YouTube Clippers Talk. I was ready to go.
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Then it looked like this team was ready to get
out of there. And look, there's some built in excuses
with no Kawhi and no James Harden. And I don't
fault the effort from a lot of these guys tonight.
I don't think that was the issue, but they definitely
ran out of talent and ran out of defense, and
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the Phoenix Suns went nineteen of forty nine from the
outside and just hit the Clippers with a kill shot,
maybe early in that third quarter with four straight made
three pointers, and they started eight of eight from the
field in the third and what was a three point
lead by the Clippers of the half well turned into
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a double digit deficit quickly. And this season feels like
it's quickly getting away from the Clippers. At three and
five now they still have what is seventy four games remaining.
I don't want to panic too much, but I can
see Clipper nation is right now in the chat and
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by those who have already called in the Clipper stock,
we'll get to you guys. After the Clippers lose one
fifteen to one oh two shoot forty four percent from
the field, thirty two percent from three to the Phoenix
Suns forty five percent from the floor, thirty nine percent
from three on a high high volume, nineteen to forty
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nine from distance. The Clippers just got an avalanche of
three pointers put on their head in that third quarter
and throughout the second half, and while Viza Zubas led
them with twenty three and eleven, and Cam Christy had
his career high seventeen in twenty five minutes. There aren't
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many other positives to find in this ballgame.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It is.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Making it tough on me tonight to find those silver
linings after the Clippers dropped a three and five eight
games into the season. They're banged up, Bradley Beal went
two to fourteen and is still on a minute restriction,
and they don't have Kawhi and James Harden tonight, and
we don't know their status for Saturday when they're taking
all the suns and into it dome Ooh, A lot
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of moving parts to this unfortunate start to the twenty
twenty five twenty twenty six season. Hard to put a
finger on just one thing. I know, Clipper Nation, you
might disagree with that. We'll get into it. I'm out
a moslind and you are listening Jerry Clippers postgame Locker
(11:42):
Room Show on the Los Angeles Clippers Audio Network.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
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Speaker 2 (12:02):
The Clippers start off the season three and five and
feel like the Suns hit three of every five to
three pointers they took in this ballgame as they take
down the Clippers in Phoenix one fifteen to one oh two.
Welcome back into your postgame locker room show. I'm at
a Moslin coming up on a five to seventy LA Sports.
We'll have Clippers Talk eight six six nine eight seven
(12:23):
two five to seventy. I will make sure to get
to all your calls tonight. Don't worry about that. Clipper
Nation might have to do some extended Clippers talk after
this one, because I can see Clipper Nation is distraught, dismayed, discouraged, defeated,
feeling like this season is over. I don't think that's
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the case. They're only eight games in only, but this
is a disastrous start considering the expectations coming in in
how the schedule laid out. Within the first ten games
outside of Los Angeles, we are leaving you until the
Clippers run it back against Phoenix at into a Dome
(13:07):
on Saturday night, tip off at seven thirty, pre game
at six thirty in LA and on the chat on
Clippers Stock on the YouTube side, do not go anywhere.
We got you coming up.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Next, Welcome in the Clippers Talk, the official postgame show
of the Clippers on the LA Clippers Audio Network. Load
up the phones and make your feelings. No now your
host for Clippers Talk. It's Adam Oslack.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The sun's burned down the nets against the Clippers in
Phoenix and win one fifteen to one two, dropping your
Los Angeles Clippers to three and five on this still
young in early twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six NBA season.
Welcome in. I'm out of Oslin. This is Clipper Stock.
We'll get your phone calls each six nine, eight seven
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two five seventy eight six six ninety seven two five
seventy if you'd like to get on, got one spot open.
This Clippers team is not meeting their expectations for a
variety of reasons. Going into this ballgame tonight, we knew
James Harden was out for personal reasons and Kawhi Leonard
missed his second straight game after returned the right ankle
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late against the Mammi Heat on Monday. So you're missing
your top two guys. A lot of people if you
told them that would go, I could see how you'd
lose to Phoenix one fifteen to one oh two. But
when you actually dig into how this game went, the
Clippers were right there. And by right there, I mean
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they had a lead at the half. That's what makes
this so discouraging. They're up fifty one to forty eight.
They're doing the right things. They only had five turnovers
in the first half. They were turning the suns over
in the second quarter. My Son's had seven turnovers. There
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zuboss was punishing them with sixteen points in the first half.
The Clippers were playing with the right spirit. Even a
young player in cam Christie, I think he's just twenty
years of age or she's still nineteen, had a nice
play and transition for a bucket. Getting real minutes in
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a competitive ballgame. You're thinking, they play like this, with
this level of energy, they're gonna be right there. Third
quarter Stars Beal misses a three. It was short to start.
Many of his shots in this game were Bradley Beal
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not exactly a hero's welcome in Phoenix a villains. They
were booing him all night. He shshed him at one
point when he hit a three pointer, but that was
the only three you would hit, and he went two
of fourteen from the floor, not putting it all on him,
but they obviously needed much more without James Harden and
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Kawhi Leonard tonight. The problem is after he missed that
three to start the third quarter, Jalen Green hit one,
and he had sixteen points in the first half. It
was his first game as a member of the Phoenix Suns.
Of course he comes back when the Clippers are playing them.
He had twenty nine points in the ball game, second
best debut by his son, only behind Charles Barklay. Then
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Royce O'Neill hits a three pointer. Ohlips were up by three.
Well now they're down. Booker hits a three pointer. What
am I seeing here? A Beal turnover, dives on the
floor for a ball, foul called on him going after
it with Grayson Allen scrapping, but a turnover. Nonetheless, NFL.
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It's a thirteen to two run by the Sons, who
now lead by six. The Clippers led by three at
the half. Thought Beal was probably trying to do too
much at times, but they also needed him to And
I hope he got the shooting bunker slumper whatever it's
going on right now, and I know he's on mans restriction,
but he got all the shots he wanted. I hope
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he got it out of his system. This cold streaky,
I think that's the case. The Suns had sixteen points
in the opening three minutes of the third quarter. They
had seventeen points total in the second. They started four
of four from three. After Devin Booker hit another one,
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now they're up ten. Grayson Allen makes it seventy one
to fifty nine. It's a twenty three to eight Sons run.
After a Rois O'Neil three, they're eight of eight from
the field and the Clippers are down fifteen. They start
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eight of eight, The Clippers start four thirteen in the
third quarter, just insane. Rois O'Neil hits another three. They're
up by twenty. The Clippers got away from feeding a
Visa zubots. They tried to answer with jump shots. You're
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not gonna be able to match the Phoenix Suns and
what they were doing with how hot they were, and
guess what, when you're not making shots, it lets them
get out and get into their offense quickly. In transition,
they only had twelve fast break points, felt like more,
but they were attacking quickly off of Clippers missus in
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that third quarter. Collins hit a three pointer to get
it to sixteen, also had a really bad turnover a
couple of them losing it in the crowded paint. Kobe
Brown made an appearance in the third quarter, probably not
the best sign. Coach Lou's looking for a spark, He's
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looking for anything. The Clippers had a bit of a
run near the end of the third in eight oh
run to get it to within twelve, but then when
the Suns even were missing three pointers, they ended up
seven of sixteen in the third total from three after
hitting their first four. The Clippers can't get a rebound.
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The Sons had fifteen offensive rebounds in the game, and
Grayson Allen appropriately so hit a three pointer to end
the third where it goes from an eleven point lead
to a fourteen point lead. Everything good that happened in
the second quarter turned against the Clippers in the third.
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The Clippers took thirteen free throws I want to say
in the first half, hit twelve of them, and the
Suns took I want to say five. Well, then the
Suns were getting to the charity stripe over and over again.
The Clippers only had five turnovers in the first half,
the Sons had eleven. They only had two in the
third quarter. But they did have nine offensive rebounds in
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the first half and that continued into the second half.
And then when the shooting catches up and they stopped
turning the basketball over, well, that's how you get blown out.
The Sons had twenty six points in the first six
minutes of the third. Clippers made a little bit of
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an effort late to get it to within twelve, to
within eleven. But when you're down twenty two with nine
minutes left in the fourth quarter and the backups are
out there, Yannick had a couple of nice plays, and
Cam Christ he played great. You're not coming back from that.
That may be insurmountable down twenty two with nine minutes
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left in NBA history time and score. Though, I remember
the Lakers coming back on the Clippers last season down
twenty one. Okay, I don't want to think about that.
Clippers had a late thirteen to one run. Put some
lipstick on the pig. That was a game where they
were down by as many as twenty five and lost
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one fifteen to one oh two in Phoenix to the Suns.
Granted the caveat the Clippers did not have Kawhi, they
did not have James Harden. They missed their two best players.
But when you're competitive and take the lead into the
first half, you just expect a back and forth ball
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game and not for things to escalate that quickly. They did.
Some of it's hot shooting, some of it's bad defense.
It's been bad defense so far this season. They're twenty
six defensively. I'm just wondering because everybody who was asking
for coach Lou to be fired tonight and has been
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doing that for years, some of you and gave Jeff
Van Gundy all the credit when their defense played good
last year. Does he get any blame now their defense
is not playing good or is all the blame just
going to coach Lou. I'm just wondering, are we going
to be fair? Are we just going to try to
blame coach Lou for everything because John Collins didn't start again,
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Like that was going to be the answer tonight. I
don't think it was. Does that mean I'm against the move?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I said before the OKC game, it's time to have
a sense of urgency. I was ready for it. I
was ready for moves six games in. Now we're eight
games in and they're three and five, But coach low
is preaching patients and saying, we haven't gotten to evaluate
things the way we've wanted to because of injuries, and
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the problem is that gives you a built in excuse
to go further with lineups that may never work. They may,
and he's already made it clear Bradley Beal is a
starter for us. He's not coming off the bench. He's
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not at this point. So what you got one starting
spot up for grabs when this team is healthy. Derreck
Jones juniors and he's played well so far this year.
He's one of the guys. I'm not looking at him
for this three and five start, but it's alarming. They
also still have seventy four games left. It's as alarming
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as it could get though for your first eight games.
Giving the expectations and the moves this Clippers team made
that gave us a lot of hope. And I'm not
giving up on these guys that they brought in off
of a small sample size where the main guy, Bradley Beal,
has been on a ministertriction. I'm just not I've seen
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this so many times before. In fact, Justin Rousseau tweeted
this out and nobody's gonna want to hear it right now.
But the Clippers started last season three and four. They
trailed that next game by twenty five, bright twenty six,
I should say, they won it against San Antonio. That
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was the first ever win at into a dome to
get themselves to four and four. The year before that
they started three and four. They trailed in the next game,
game seven, by thirty one. They would not come back
in that game, started three and five. The point is,
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you can look at it one glass, half four, half empty. Optimist, pessimist.
How are you gonna look at this? How are you
gonna see it? They have started slow consistently since the
twenty twenty one season, the twenty twenty twenty twenty one
season that crosses over from twenty twenty into twenty twenty one.
They have not gotten off to a good start since then.
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They have been starting three and four every year. This
is another year of that, where now they're three and five. Well,
last year they still won fifty games. They still were
able to write the ship. Right now, everything's doom and
gloom and the doomers are out in droves. We'll take
a quick time out before we get to your phone calls.
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Speaker 1 (25:52):
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Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm just saying they can pull out of this tailspan.
I've seen it plenty of times before, Like I don't
know the last two years when they started three and
four and then had runs where they were eighteen and
three at the end of last season. The season before that,
they had a twenty six and five run over thirty
one games, the best regular season stretched and Clippers basketball history.
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I can't give up because there's evidence of this happening
before and them turning it around. I'm sorry, there's a
pattern here. I'm not giving up after eight games more
Clippers sock next turning in five to seventy l A Sports.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Let's get back at it. This is La Clippers basketball
right here on the LA Clippers Audio Network.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Tough night, Cliper Nation, tough starts of the year. The
good news is there aren't eight games left in the season. No,
it's actually they've only played eight games and there's seventy
four left. Seems like there's an opportunity for them to
turn this around as they have done like every year
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the past four or five seasons. So maybe the same
thing could happen again. I don't know. I'm holding out
out for that. I'm holding on to that hope. I'm
not giving up on this squad yet. But if people
want to be angry, if people want to lash out,
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that's what Clippers talk is for. Clipper Edward is calling
in from Granada Hills. Clipper Edward, how you feeling tonight?
Have you hit the panic button on this squad?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
I have definitely hit the panic button. I do not
know where the defensive discipline has gone. The chemistry has
totally disappeared. John Collins has become an embarrassment, a laughing
stock of the team. I can't believe what I am
watching with this kid. Other than that, I have no
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other word.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Wait, why is John Collins become an embarrassment with this team?
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Did you not see him play today?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
So your criticized John Collins play? No, I think he
had some really bad turnovers, some really bad plays. The
majority though, of Clipper Nation is saying you have to
start Collins. The reason we're losing is because Collins isn't starting.
So I'm just I'm a little taken aback that you're
not calling for coach Low's head for not starting John Collins.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Well, no, I definitely think Tylon needs to go because
he's part of the problem. But tonight John Collins was
definitely showing why he's not what we thought he was. Honestly,
I didn't know enough about the guy. I didn't know.
I don't watch a lot of Hawks games, but from
what I'm seeing now, it's just he's not what we needed.
You know, now I'm really missing Norman baw Bradley Beal
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is just I mean, he's another embarrassment, Like where has
this guy gone? I know he was cooked, but I
mean he can't even get us ten points. Nick Batunen,
I love the guy, but I think it's time to
retire tonight. You know, I wouldn't mind if I don't
see him back on the floor again. And I love
the guy, thank you for everything you brought, but I
think it's I mean, we have to make this more
decisions if we want to win games.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So Clip Edward, let me ask you this. And this
goes from many people in this chat and other people
calling in. I'm sure are going to have similar thoughts
and sentiments here, and this could be the overall sentiment
from Clipper Nation at the moment. If Beal drops twenty
easily on Saturday and they beat Phoenix, is everything fine now?
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Like you're saying, all these guys are permanently cooked and
we'll never play well again and it's over. That's what
you're saying.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
No, I'm not saying it's permanently cooked, but I'm just
basing on the LAT five games where they haven't showed
us anything. I mean, even tonight's Zubatch. It looks like
his confidence is gone.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I mean, I thought Zoo looked pretty good. He had
sixteen in the first half. He ended up with twenty
three and eleven. I wish they went to him more
in the third quarter instead of trying to match Phoenix
in the jump shots. I get what you're saying, but
things change.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
I mean off of his misses though.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Let me see how many offensive rebounds he had in
this ball game. He did have five, that's fair.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
I mean he literally couldn't put the ball in the
rint today and then those turnovers. I was just like,
that is not zoobotch. He's so much smarter.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
He had two turnovers.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
I think he's I think he's I think he's lost
his confidence because that's how bad that he is playing.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
All right, I appreciate the phone call. I hope you
call in when I believe they turn this around.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
And the night was the first game I actually got
to watch on TV. So anytime I get to watch
on TV, oh, expecting my call.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
All right, Clipper Edward, we'll be looking for you. Chris
in La Chris, you're on Clipper stop without a malls
and what's up?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Chris?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
A Hey, Adam, how are you?
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Let's talk intelligent basketball now, please like we always do,
like we did the last game win after the OKC game.
If you recall I I sit three rows behind the
visitor bench at every Clipper home game and a half
for many years. That last Pauler. We can't have callers
like that. John Collins is thirty for fifty four on
the season. He's shooting fifty five percent from the floor.
I don't know what that guy's watching or hearing. And
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John Cowins is well.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
To be fair, To be fair, Chris, he did admit
this was the only game he's seen so far.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Well, you don't have to watch it to look at
the stats and listen to the game. I mean, the
litmus test is John Collins is not the problem. Here's
the problem. And we talked about it the other night.
You kind of pooh pooed me a little bit, and
I love you, Adam. Chris Paul is one of the
major problems. Chris Paul six for twenty five on the season.
He's shooting twenty four percent. He's made one, I think
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maybe two two pointers. He's completely a non factor. He
can't guard anyone. And finally this said, we're not gonna
play anymore. We're gonna play Cam Christy. Here's the bright
spot again. Zubach is forty eight for eighty two on
the years. He's got a little bit of a slow start,
but Zubach was back tonight. We go as Zubac goes.
When Zubak gets fifteen to seventeen touches a game, we
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typically win. He's got to touch the basketball. Coming into
this game, he hadn't shot eighty two shots so far.
I think he had sixty eight shots coming into the game,
where Harden and Leonard had one oh three and one
oh two.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, Zubos was in single digit shot attempts his last
three games, so it was nice to see it be
featured more.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Hey, thank Chris.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Nobody has been talking about Zoo getting the ball more.
I can pull up tweets from twenty twenty one. This
has been my campaign. I've been crying about this for every.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Two I mean too when he touches, and go look
at the stats and I challenge your stat guru team
over there at the radio station. The games that Zubach
touches at thirteen times or more, we win seventy five
plus percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I don't doubt there's something in that range with him.
There is a direct correlation of eats a Zoo boss
punishes teams.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Here's the challenge of why I'm concerned. We keep taught
and I'm not panic button or any of that, but
this is what why I'm concerned. Okay, forget about the
last three or four years. Those last three or four years,
sure we have the same starting record as we do
now are very similar, four and four, three and five,
whatever the case may be. However, our four losses this year,
four of our five losses were blowouts, not even competitive.
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Three of those losses were blowouts on the road. Every
road game we played this year, we've gotten smoked and
we were close in the first half. But everybody knows
in the NBA it's the second half adjustments and second
half game it's and so what concerns me is horrible.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
They made the wrong adjustment. The Phoenix Suns hit every
three pointer. It was the wrong adjustment.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
No, well, listen, it's not about the adjustment and the
guys are going to make shots and misshots, but at
the end of the day, you got to run them
off the line. But there's it's not about when game
it's it's in totality. Again we talked about the other night.
Four of the five losses were blowouts. That's not Clipper basketball.
That's not what we saw. Out of the three out
of the four of the five, we didn't get blown out.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Well in game they were getting blown out and came
back and won against San Antonio in game seven or
excuse me, in game eight. So we're comparing game eights
of the last two years. But we did game last season.
They came.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
I get it, but we lost four of our five
games this year were blowouts, and all three on the
road were blowouts. That is a concern to me. And
and what I mean by that is, let's get some
infusion of the young players. Cam Christy played great to
or Christie played great tonight, let's get him. I know
Jordan Miller's on with the hamstring, but really it's because
he can only play certain leagues because he's on that.
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On that two way contrast.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
You're looking for young guys to keep you from getting
blown out. I would point to a lot of young
teams that get out all the time. Like that's like
I under supplement, supplement with some young guys. If you
want Cam Christy to play more, I'm interested in that.
But you can't just have all of a sudden this
young roster turnover. With all these young guys playing, it's
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you're not gonna win games.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Not what I'm no. I agree, but that's not what
I'm saying. It's a mix of both. That's not what
I'm saying. What I'm saying is a mix of both
young and old.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
But what you said, Camp and I'm like, are we
playing all the young guys all of a sudden like we.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
No, no, but we've got to play some because we
don't play them enough. And the other teams are playing
younger players look around us and number two on top
of all this, So if you allow me to just
finish real quick and I'm sorry to dominate all the
time you are out on us, they're gonna they're going
to pick us up ninety four feet the whole time
and get up in us defensively and they're gonna push
us all in transition.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
To the same thing last year, and the Clippers still
won fifty games. When it comes to that style of
play and what they're we we did not.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
We did not lose four games this way in blowout
fashion at him and.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Okay, hold on, hold on. I make a point that
teams knew last season to do what they're doing against
the Clippers this season, and they still won fifty games.
And then do you just go back to they have
not been blown out this many times and this like
I get it.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I think that at the beginning of our season, the
roster at the beginning of the season last year had
young players. Kevin Porter Jr. Was playing no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm saying later in the season when they got older,
when Kawhi came back, they turned the ball over way less.
The correct analysis is they shouldn't be turning the ball
over as much because they didn't at the end of
last season when they had Kawhi back, So there's less
of an excuse now with a healthy Kawhi for them
to be turning the ball over as much as they are.
I appreciate the phone call, Chris, you talk a lot.
(36:48):
I gotta get some more people. Eli, whit you here? Eli?
What's up?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
I got you look here?
Speaker 8 (36:55):
Okay? Nice? Well kind of I was gonna say, kind
of guys talking a bit about it, but just really quick. Yeah,
I'm not too nervous yet because I think you need
like maybe like a fifteen to twenty games sample size
then you can hit panic button. But first of all,
I did want to say, the disappointment for me comes
into comparison to last season with the level of competition
(37:16):
and personnel. I understand that we do have some injuries
with bel and I forgot who else, But I think
the main point is that looking at last season and
the way the team started and had more closer games
compared to now, where he had Brook Lopez a film obamba.
You have bogdan Bogdanovich. You don't have taking for a junior,
(37:39):
faking the lack of discipline and like you said, turning
the ball over and making these big mistakes for a
veteran team I think is honestly the biggest disappointment.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I would say this, when you talk about the turnovers
and everybody wants to go after the coaching staff, I
would point to you to Tillmarazzari's Twitter, who coming into
this game yesterday, he posted every single turnover so far
this season by the Clippers, and there is a real
hard argument to make that it's on the coaching staff
and not lacks of day'sical players making miserable passes out there.
(38:13):
Like the players have to be better, they have to
be much better. I know that wasn't exactly your point. Yeah,
I just wanted to get that out there, Eli, But
anything else.
Speaker 8 (38:23):
Yeah, no, for sure, and thanks for clarifying. But yeah, no,
it's mainly that I think one hope I do have
and this is kind of a weird parallel, I would say,
do play cam Moore, especially if Bogdanovich is doing pretty
terrible because he is a young player obviously who shows
the grit. But it's gonna sound weird, but if you
look at the Phoenix Suns last year when they were
(38:44):
winning games, they actually were playing their two rookies, Ryan
Dunn and Igudaro, and they actually had some energy, not
saying they're like the tippy point of games, but on
the defensive end and just the energy standpoint, they gained
that team which they'd have a lot of vetteran and
had a decent start kind of a bit more of
the energy.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
So they also didn't make the play.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
So that's the way.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
Later and if you do look at the stats, they
did play the rookies a lot less, and that was
a big criticism of good Enclosures.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Or budd all right, I got you, Eli, I appreciate
the phone call. Okay, become a regular here.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Well problem, thank you, quick time.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Out as we do have to take breaks here. Clippers
fall to three and five. They lose one to fifteen
to one oh two to the Phoenix Suns in Phoenix.
I'm out of Mosland and you're listening to Clippers stock
here on a five seventy LA sports.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Back to more LA Clippers basketball. Take us with you
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audio network.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Clippers lose again. So the Phoenix Suns, who they had
beaten for their first victory into a dome to start
off this season. Now they lose in Phoenix tonight. We're
getting blown out in the second half half after leading
by three in the first half. Final score Suns one
to fifteen, Clippers one oh two. Ryan and Burbank, Ryan,
you're on Clipper stop with that on Maaz And what's up?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Adam? How are you?
Speaker 5 (40:12):
That was a fun game, wasn't it? Did you have fun?
Are we not entertained? I'm being I'm being sarcastic.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Good Zee, I know, I know the.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
I think a couple of callers have hinted at this,
and I think I mean, I think we're seeing it
with our own eyes to a certain extent. Right, We
went into this season as Quipper Vans seen and like
we addressed a lot of the shortcomings that were last season.
Beginning of last season, correct, there was no ball handler
for James in the in the in the backup unit. Right,
we thought, hey, Seep three, give us give us thirteen
to fifteen solid minutes a game to spell James Harden,
(40:49):
We'll take that. Brooke Lopez give us thirteen to sixteen
minutes a game to spell Zubak, We'll take that.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
You know again, John Collins, I think has been the
bright spot right for many Clipper fans. I could speak
for myself when I say John Collins isn't the problem here?
The problem that I think that we're finding this, I.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Would ask little I heard this already once tonight. He's
not the problem. I agree with that. My question is
is he the solution? Is he the cure all? And
I don't think that is the case either. I do
think he can help them.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah, and I tend to agree with you, Adam. I
don't think he's the cure all. He probably needs to
play more than twenty five minutes a game, but I'm
not sure playing him thirty plus is going to just
cure all the Clippers' ills for this season. At the
same time, though, I think the real question becomes, are
is Brook Lopez and or CP three? Are they done?
(41:42):
Are they are?
Speaker 4 (41:42):
They?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Are they not going to be the solution? Because that's
the biggest issues I see right now. Again, game whatever game,
the game agains to Miami James Harden plays nearly forty
minutes in that game. We're five games into the season,
six games in the season, Adam, He's playing forty minutes.
I mean, like, that's that's the concerning thing to me.
(42:03):
When I look at this team, I go the guys
we thought were going to be helping the bench unit,
I'm not entirely sure they are. And that's that's the
issues that I have with this squad right now. And again,
like you said earlier, Kawhi Leonard's been healthy for the
most part and he's played great. Yet the Clippers are
three and five. James Harden has been healthy and he's played,
(42:25):
by all it counts, very good basketball. They're three and five.
Zubac has you know, again you up and down on
Zubac a little bit. I'm gonna I'm gonna concede that one.
He hasn't played, I think, to the fullest potential we
saw him of last year. But yet they're three and five.
And again, I understand Bradley Beal's on a ministrastition. He's
not where he needs to be at Okay, okay, But
(42:46):
the other pieces of this team, to me, at least
when I when I'm watching the eye test, I'm not
convinced that they're they're helping us. And again, Adam, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
One is arguing that Brook Lopez are helping them right
now or doing what we thought they would be doing.
The argument is, does this mean they're done or do
you need to give them more time? Because it's only
eight games, and to me, it would be crazy to
give up on guys with this body of work this soon.
(43:16):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
And Adam, I don't necessarily disagree with you with that.
I just think the question is when when can we
as fans hit the panic button? Because the forty twenty
rule still applies, right we still talking about the forty twenty,
the forty twenty rule, you know, the forty wins, the
four twenty loss. The Clippers have five now, and and
and and and you've you've pointed this out too out
And I think a lot of Clippers stands have two.
(43:41):
When I looked at this first ten games, they said
this Clipper team should go seven to three, it should
go soppy worse. We penciled in at worst, we penciled
in a couple offers. We said, hey, I'll probably lose, Okay,
see on back to back. They'll probably lose. You know,
they'll probably lose one of the Sun games. Maybe they'll
lose the Warriors game. You know, I can, I can.
I can accept that as a Cliper saying I don't
expect them to be perfect, Ryan. But now there's three, three,
(44:04):
and five and four. The losses at them have been blowouts.
I'm with you, blowouts.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Part I was.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I did a whole show on Clippers Talk after the
loss of Miami's saying there needs to be a sense
of urgency. Now we're two games further in with two
more losses. I'm with you. I'm with you, Ryan. I
appreciate the phone call quick time out. Clippers lose in
Phoenix one fifteen to one oh two. The difference is
(44:33):
and the callers have been pretty good about this. The
chat is the chat, and it's like every chat that's
ever been to some degree on the Internet, where it's
going to be doom and gloom and the sky is
falling completely in the season is over. I'm not there
after eight games. That's where we may differ more. Clippers
sock next turning in five to seventy other sports.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Streaming on the iHeart this is the Los Angeles Clippers
heard exclusively, I'm the LA Clippers.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Network Clippers lose to the Suns. We'll do Clippers stock
after dark. I'll keep going with you guys off air,
which means you can say whatever you want. Oh God,
Joe in LA, you're on Clipper stock without a moslem.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
Quickly here, Joe, Hey, Adam, all right, So I just
want to do some objective analysis here. What in your
opinion with no caveats, are Tylo's top three greatest flaws
as a coach?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Uh? Top three? I don't know if I want to
go top three, but I will say there are times
and I can't I can't know this for certain because
as much as he can seem calm and cool after losses,
sometimes and he doesn't have the fire and brimstone that
everybody wants. I can't tell you that behind the scenes
(45:58):
for certain, coach is not always like that. But sometimes
it can come across as coach Lou is too cool
for school or whatever, or doesn't have that sense of
urgency that you're looking for. That that's the one thing
that I would say I can understand people feeling when
(46:19):
it comes to Coach Lou. Anything else show because I
gotta get out, Okay, I mean yeah, yeah, I'll tell
you what, Joe, I'll put you on hold. We'll get
you on Clippers Stock after dark on the YouTube side.
On Clipperstock is everybody's calling in freaking out tonight. What happened?
Speaker 6 (46:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
The Clippers are three and five. Next game come up
against Phoenix. Add into a Dome Saturday night tip off,
a seven thirty pregame show at six thirty. Before we
get out of here, I do want to thank the
Clippers organization. Ralph Lawler'brian Seeman, know what igo, Carlo human
is on the call people, Brother, Jake warnercy on Saturday,
Daniel West back in the bank, Joey Kimball, love y'all,
(46:55):
Clipper Nation, love you too. We'll do some Clippers Talk
after dark off air on the YouTube's some exclusive Clipper talk. Next,
Clippers Talk is over, but it's going on your feed
right after the show.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
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Speaker 4 (47:11):
I listen on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Make us a preseur.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
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