August 4, 2024 • 26 mins
Offseason Clippers Talk with Adam Auslund who you can find now @folllowadama on youtube with video for this episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome in to an off season edition of Clippers Talk.
You may be watching this on YouTube. You may be
thinking that you're watching this on the Clips and Dip
podcast page. Well, I've gone solo, Me, Chuck and Will.
We've all broken up familiarity, breedze, contempt. No, it's nothing
like that.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We were on a break.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I just I gotta get more stuff out. There's so
much to talk about with this team, and so little
time before the season starts just two months away. I
thought I would start my own YouTube channel connected up
with Clippers Talk, which is already something you could subscribe
to on Spotify on iTunes. We've been doing this for
some time now in a five seventy LA sports. You're
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a home with the Clippers. So we'll have it in
podcast form audio only, and then we'll have the vodcast
is what they call it. Yeah, we'll have that too
at follow Adam a on YouTube, just like my Twitter
x handles at follow out of Ma same thing on YouTube.
Some people want me to put it on TikTok too. Well,
they don't like long form videos. And even though I'm
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doing some shorts and I'm showing you some behind the
scenes stuff with my life. I think I took a
video of my sister earlier that was kind of weird.
She was holding a Chicago Bulls starter jacket. Even though
I'm doing other things, maybe some fitness advice on my
YouTube channel, I just look. I'm trying to make sure
that we don't run into the same problem that we
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are right now with streaming. The rebundling must start because
I am so damn tired of having to go to
five different places to watch TV shows, to watch movies.
Nobody likes it. I know we all wanted to cut
the cord. Initially, we were wrong. We have to admit
that now, so I'm not going to do the same
damn thing. There's just two places to find me and
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at follow Out of May is the handle for both
on YouTube now and on x been there since two
thousand and nine or something like that. Got my birthday
balloons on Twitter recently. So This is an off seasoned
edition of Clippers Talk edition and edition with some of
the guys that are now on the squad some of
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the guys who are gone. We'll talk about some of that.
We've discussed it at nauseum.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Paul George PG.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Thirteen with CND with Chuck and Will on the Clips
and Dip podcast. Still, I think I have a few
more things to say. I think Matt Moore might join
me from HP Basketball because we got into a Twitter
spat recently, so that could be entertaining a little back
and forth, a little embraced debate. Speaking of more on
that in a little bit here with some comments from
Stephen A. Smith. I put out a tweet earlier at
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follow out of May. That's really the only reason I'm
doing this episode. I just feel compelled to talk to
you right now. I get these urges to want to
talk more and more about the Clippers, and sometimes I
can't wait for Chucking Will. I just got to go
and I have the capabilities here, got the microphone, got
the HD stream going, and a little bit of a
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show for you, even though we're two months away from
being it into a dome. If you haven't gotten the
tour yet, I have not checking for that email.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Or I gotten it back yet. No, maybe they fired me.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get some video
for you add into a dome. I'm not Carlo Jimenez
with the tiktoking and the snap faces and all that stuff,
and I can't edit the way he can, but I
can do something. I could do something for you. I
just want to bring you more and more Clippers content,
and that's really what this channel is about. It will
veer off into some other areas and maybe I'll be
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talking about Game of Thrones later or anything like that.
I just earlier today. It was a little bit impulsive,
but I made the commitment to be involved with social
media more for a year and just see how it goes.
See if I can grow the account at all. See
people care, if they're interested, if they.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Want more Clippers Talk from me.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
There is an off season edition. We won't have any
Clippers basketball Summer League's over two and a half muscle
the season stars. But again we got a pretty good
I don't know, we're poor myself in the audience here.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
We've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Those of you that have listened to Clippers Talk, the
Official Clippers podcast and show prehalf in post is what
I like to do. It is one of my favorite
things in the world. And every postgame show with Clippers
Talk where we take callers, we'll be doing that here
so much, just podcast form. Maybe at some point I'll
do some live streams and stuff, but every show ends
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up at Clippers Talk on Spotify, on iTunes, wherever else
you find it now on YouTube and video form. If
you want to see me wearing a black tank top
like I'm Pat McAfee. It's not homage to him or
anything like that. It's just really damn hot lately. And
you know, I roll with the original pms. Not the
original original, but the show Petro some money show. Those
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are my guys. Pat McAfee's fine, whatever, don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I will go after somebody else.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Though a little bit later here in the show, I
do feel you know what I'm gonna get you right now,
some type of way over a tweet I saw a
little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
If you're looking at my account at follow out of May,
I gave it a retweet.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It came from I had to double check this NBA Central,
the Dunk Central, which I think, while an aggregator does
not put out, you know, fake tweets. Barry mccochner stuff,
who I do like and I've interviewed before, but it's
not a fake account like MLB Facts with an X
that says Mike Trout has missed the last three thousand
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games straight. It's an MLB record. It's nothing like that.
Now there is another one called NBA Central.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Tries to throw people off, like a fake WOJ account.
But this one, NBA Central, is legit. How do I
know it's legit. Well, it's got one point six million followers.
I've got like less than twenty right now on YouTube.
I'm just starting. Give me a break. But the content
that they put up earlier today comes from First Take,
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And while they didn't post the clip, they posted a
snippet a quote from Steven A. Smith, something we've seen
many times before because one of his favorite people, for
whatever reason, to go after is Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Full disclosure. I met Steven A.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Smith one time at Fox Sports Radio back when he
was there. I went and got him pancakes late night
from someplace. He was nice, much quieter off the air,
and by all accounts, really good guy behind the scenes.
Of course, you don't get to see that side of him.
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You get stuff like this, him saying, quote Kawhi Leonard
invents ways to get her.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Now, am I part of the problem too?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Because I am dunking on that comment and using it
to create my own content.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Here a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
We were all guilty of it from time to day time.
But this is not the first time that stephen A
has said this about Kawhi Leonard or something to this effect.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Remember after you got hurt, tore the.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Meniscus right knee in game two, might've actually tour it
in game one, played through it in game two, wasn't
able to go the rest of the series against the
Phoenix Suns in twenty twenty three in the first round, well,
he said he should retire. Then Kawhi Leonard came back,
had one of his best seasons last year. Ever regular
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season wise ended up I think at sixty seven and
sixty eight games played before. Unfortunately then he was swallowed
up again or swollowed up again. But he had a
stretch that was historic. I was chronicling it saying Kawhi
for MVP with a hashtag all over Twitter. I was
trying to make sure everybody knew just how efficient he was.
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Where over a thirty game stretch, he set the all
time efficiency record an NBA history over that long of
a period of time, shooting shooting splits of fifty seven
fifty one ninety fifty seven percent from the floor, fifty
one percent from three ninety percent for the free throw
line over a thirty game span. God Tyr is just
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scratching the surface of what he was doing. Basketball deirvana
was being reached. It was unbelievable. And I've said this
before and I'll say it again because I'm hoping for
it to happen again. When Kawhi Leonard has gotten hurt,
he has come back stronger and a more efficient player.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's a fact we've seen.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
People always talk about the run in twenty nineteen with
the Toronto Raptors. The numbers he was putting up in
twenty twenty one with the Clippers were even better in
the playoffs before he got hurt. The numbers he just
put up last year coming off the meniscus.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's the best regular season stretch up.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
His career, and people slept on it. They weren't paying attention.
Why the Clippers were at the top of the conference
for about two days if that, and then they went
through that swoon in January and February dropped down to
fourth place. He gets hurt on March thirty first, apparently
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against the Charlotte Hornets. Was out after that tried to
give it a go in the playoffs. And this is
kind of the crux of the issue here. This is
where I have a problem with Stephen A. Smith. I'm
not going to go after him like he went after
Kalmi Brown, but there are I'm sure people in the business,
in the industry that feel the same way about him
and his ran about kawme because he does stuff like this,
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and I get it. He is ESPN and this is
how he gets paid, and apparently he's damn good at it.
He's the highest paid person there. But he says ridiculous
things for attention. Quote Kawhi Leonard in Ben's Ways to
get hurt, quote Kawhi Leonards to retire, he finds a
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polarizing subject. This is what.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Gets me going.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
People act like there are actually classes on sports media
and broadcasting and journalism. There are classes out there. I
think my friend Rob Parker teaches one of them. Maybe
a usc love Rob the hobmong the YouTube at some
point on clipper Stock. But there are actual sports media
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classes out there, Like it's not obvious what Stephen A.
Smith is doing, Like they have to teach you a
class about what's happening here. The jig is up, guys.
It's pretty obvious to everyone, at least it should be.
I'm gonna lay it out for you.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
All you do to gain attention.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Is get on a big enough platform, say some inflammatory,
usually inaccurate things, some low information takes about a polarizing
team or polarizing player, teams like the Lakers and Cowboys
or Patriots, or players like Tom Brady and Lebron James.
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And what you do is you split the audience into two,
not in a bad way, not like you're talking politics
and you're gonna lose half the audience. You actually gain
both sides because you garner attention from the positive side
of the group that likes what you're saying, loves that player,
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loves that team. If that's the angle you're taking, say,
it's I don't know, Skip Bayless defending Michael Jordan as
if his legacy hasn't been defended enough all the time.
It is a religion for some of these older gentlemen
saying get off my lawn, or shaking their fists of
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the clouds, get off my clouds. Kind of what they're saying, the.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Old ways were better.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I think their nostalgia tripping. That's beside the point. Half
the people are going to agree with them and they're
gonna get attention off of that.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
The other half.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
They're gonna hate what they're saying, but they're gonna hate
watch it. They're gonna continue to watch to hate watch
like I have with somebody shows I should have gotten
out of earlier, like The Walking Dead, like how did
I make it to Season seven? Stupid Mayer and stuff,
and then Nakan the Bat that was a pretty good
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tease of whoho is going to kill? But they killed
two people.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
This is what sports media has become.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Just talk about someone polarizing, talk about a team that
people love to hate and some people love to love,
like the Cowboys, and you will get your audience. And
it's so simplistic and so it's sports simpleton. That's what
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it is, sports simpleton talk. I hate it. I've been
asking for this for a while. I've been waiting for
a hot take bubble to come. Maybe it's happening Skip Bayless.
I don't know if he's retiring or just leaving FS one,
but people are patting him on the back, like Nick
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Right and saying he carved out a lane.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Nick right.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I think acknowledge that he might not have a job
or be in this business and the manner he is
if it wasn't for guys like Skip Bayless. I think
it is some of the downfall of sports talk, of commentary,
of analysis.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
If you want to call it that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Some people call it journalism. The landscape has changed so much,
but it's just so transparent what's going on. It's so
easy to be divisive. I don't see it as talent
so much. It's just a formula for success, an easy
one that they've been writing for so long, like a
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bad dose coin or something some whacked out crypto Kanye coin.
What is that still around? Do I still have some.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The bubble may be happening before our eyes.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think people are starting to tune out guys like
Steven A a little bit more. I think the rating
can say that, I don't know if it's a cry
wolf thing. How many times do we have to hear
false narratives and inflammatory speak and outrageous takes when we
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know better. Granted, sometimes once in a while it's entertaining.
He was screaming about weed. Lay off the weed. I
once in a while, Max Kellerman saying I want a
goadala that gets used in the DJ beat, But I
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think it's just so appealing to the lowest common denominator
that I think is starting to smart and smarten up.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And I'm hoping.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Because I really changed things here with my one reach
wheet of the Steven A. Smith quote regarding Kawhi Leonard saying,
quote Kawhi Leonard events ways to get hurt, and me saying,
Kawhi is trying to give it a go in Game three,
as I posted the clip of him hanging on the
rim against the Dallas Mavericks when he probably shouldn't have
been playing at that point, but was trying so hard
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to go for the Clippers. He was laboring out there,
noticeably gimpy, limping around, and he caught that alley from
Paul George, who I don't know why he was throwing
him an lu if he knows Kawhy is hurt.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Kawi went up and.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Got it, and then he hung on the rim, afraid
to land. It looked like because of that impact on
the force of hitting the court on his right knee.
It's hard to watch, it's painful to watch, and I'm
sure it was painful to be out there.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And he was.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Don't tell me he's inventing ways to get hurt. Don't
tell me he doesn't love basketball. Don't tell me he
isn't trying to win a championship for the Clippers. His
body has betrayed him. Yes, that's a fact he's been
injury prone. It's a fact he hasn't been able to
close out a season the last four for the Clippers.
No one is more upset about this than Kawhi just
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because he's not holding the press conference, just because he's
not putting the press sho release out there on social media.
And I know he doesn't need me defending him. But
when you see Lawrence Frank out there talking about Team
USA sticking up for his guy and Kawhi, you knew
who was disappointed I'd being able to play. And we've
talked about what seems like a double standard. Kevin Urant
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didn't play at all in exhibition games that for TMOSA
this year, but they kept him on the team. Okay,
didn't seem like much of a collaborative effort with Kawhi
Leonard and the Clippers for why he was left off
Team USA.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Different subject for a different day.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
We talked about it on Clips and Dip with til
Marrazari a couple of weeks ago. But he wants to play.
You don't got to kick a guy when he's down.
That's what Steven A. Smith is doing. And it's just
so weak and just it gets me irked because he's
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gonna get eyeballs over and a lot of low level
NBA people are gonna be like, yeah, Coawha never plays,
he can never play. You can never make it through
the playoffs, make it through the regular season. It's like,
what do you want to do? Scream at his knee
stop swelling, and what can he do outside of put
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the work in, do his best, be prepared for each
and every season. I mean, now we see we hear
the same people who are giving him grief for allegedly
load managing when I think he was hurt. You saw
him limping around the twenty nineteen finals, was coming off
that injury. Load managed the first couple of years with
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the Clippers. It's like, yeah, I think if there's anyone
who's rightfully load managing, I think it's a guy like
Kawhi Leonard. I think it's someone who's one of the
greatest NBA players at his peak in a high leverage
situation in a playoff series.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I think there's probably a top ten all time playoff performer.
You look at his numbers over his last sixty playoff
games since he became an undisputed Number one was San
Antonio in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Ridiculous numbers.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Over thirty points, over fifty percent, shooting about forty percent
from the outside. He's a playoff all time riser. But
to continually harp on it and go after him for
not being out there doesn't really help the situation much.
He wants to be out there. If his body allows
him to be out hit there, he'll be out there.
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I just I don't know a guy like Steven A.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Smith who.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Seen some of his basketball highlights. Not that I say,
because you know who am I that would be.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Hypocritical of me.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'm not saying you got to be a professional basketball
player to criticize guys. But I'm saying, if you're going
after someone for trying to play, playing through it, being
injury prone, no fault of his own, his body betraying him,
that might be crossing the line. As someone who didn't
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play at the highest level that suspect to me. But again,
the attention is going to be there regardless unless we
get rid of this hot take bubble world we have
been living in for far too long now. It would
be great to have some more honest sports takes, like
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how is Tim Leagler not the most well known basketball
guy on ESPN. He's brilliant. He's hopefully going to be
calling a lot more games next season. I don't know
why that hasn't started up before this him as the
color commentator. Fantastic, He's an actual basketball analyst. Instead, we
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have to listen to stephen A and Kendrick Perkins routinely
get the facts wrong and just spit out hot take
after hot take, with Bob Myers trying to join them,
I don't know, reduce himself to throwing out hot takes.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I love the TNT guys, I also feel like they
could do a little bit more basketball analysis. I understand
the point of their the most entertaining of the hot
take artists out there, and they are Sometimes they sound
pretty well informed and like they don't actually watch games,
and I think they've admitted that many times before. Still,
they are the most entertaining studio hosts in the history
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of existence. That's not the case with Stephen A. Smith.
A lot of these guys are just living off of
saying inaccurate things for far too long. And I just
did not like what he said about Kawhi Leonard over
the last week and what he's been saying about him
now for a couple of years. How is he the
guy to tell someone else to retire a professional athlete. Yeah,
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you know, it wasn't as hot in here earlier, but
now I'm kind of kind of getting myself worked up
a little bit here.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
He's the best at his craft. This is what he does,
this is how he's made a living. Doesn't mean it
can't push back, not that Kawhi needs my help. And yeah,
maybe I'm using him for content, just like he does
with other stuff. Ah, it's tough not to well. I
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have to live with those double standards sometimes rules for the.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Not for me.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Look, I'm not telling any professional athlete to retire, not
in a position where I'd feel comfortable ever doing that.
But the clickbaiting, the aggregating, this is what works.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'm hoping.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I'll play less of the game myself and just talk
more Clippers basketball as we move along here. I do
want to talk with I believe he's at HP Basketball.
Matt Moore. Yeah, Matt Moore, NBA writer for Action Network HQ. Now,
we did get into a debate about Paul George or
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he said something that I found to be a little
bit off, and I'll just give you a preview of
that in case I have him on later this week.
I am efforting that conversation, but he said something to
see the effect of what they'll miss most is Paul
George's leadership. I'm not sure that's the case. They will
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miss Paul George. I think on the court is basketball talent. Yes,
there's no way to replace that guy. However, the way
the Clippers have pivoted pretty impressive. From the front office.
I have to say, I'm a big Lawrence Frank guy.
Let Lawrence Frank cook. This offseason. You got to see
him a little bit less restricted with some of the
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moves he's been making and how he'd liked to build
the team because they're under both aprons. So am I
excited for Clippers basketball? Yes, this defensive oriented team that
we're gonna be looking at this year, It's gonna be fun.
You can win a lot of games on defense, God willing,
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Kawhi Leonards is healthy, James Harden and the Clippers still
have enough on the offensive side to scare a lot
of teams in this league. I just want to see
Kawhi Leonard be healthy. That's what we all want.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I think we all want.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Well, this has been an off season addition of Clippers talk.
I'm oudam Oslin and these impromptu episodes could just be
happening now. I don't know. I see something else on
Twitter gets me going. Somebody was telling me about Kayi
Jones and how he should be the starter. Maybe I'll
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try to put that to rest. As the rumors are
eat to Zubots, you know, contract extension, who knows could
be coming. We just saw another big man and Jared
Allen get paid in the Cleveland Cavaliers, and it beats
Zubots top five room protector has been pretty much the
entire time he's been in the league so far. So
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maybe I'll address that a little bit later this week.
I don't know. I just like the freedom to be
able to crack a mic and turn it on whenever
I feel like it. If you're listening to this on
the Spotify side, on the iTunes side, on the podcast side,
well that's cool, but maybe give me a subscribe on YouTube,
check out the video, maybe watch clips and dip. I
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don't normally wear a tank top on there a jersey.
I have one before Dick Povetta. But yeah, I'm in
rare form in some ways going after the sports media landscape.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
On the hot take bubble.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
That may have just popped a little.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Bit, a little a little bit of the air came out.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't know. Skip Bayless is probably gonna go back
on ESPN. He mad Dog and Steven A. Smith will
endlessly going after one another. Oh that would be painful,
and mad Dog's another one. Yeah, I don't want to
have to light up too many people here. I could
just start playing clips, but then I may copyright stuff YouTube.
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I don't know how all this works. You guys know
me and technology. We're trying to figure things out together,
our relationships. A little bit afraid. Until next time, this
has been Clippers talk. I'm out a Mason, I'll talk to.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You later this week.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
More
Welcome in to an off season edition of Clippers Talk.
You may be watching this on YouTube. You may be
thinking that you're watching this on the Clips and Dip
podcast page. Well, I've gone solo, Me, Chuck and Will.
We've all broken up familiarity, breedze, contempt. No, it's nothing
like that.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We were on a break.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I just I gotta get more stuff out. There's so
much to talk about with this team, and so little
time before the season starts just two months away. I
thought I would start my own YouTube channel connected up
with Clippers Talk, which is already something you could subscribe
to on Spotify on iTunes. We've been doing this for
some time now in a five seventy LA sports. You're
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a home with the Clippers. So we'll have it in
podcast form audio only, and then we'll have the vodcast
is what they call it. Yeah, we'll have that too
at follow Adam a on YouTube, just like my Twitter
x handles at follow out of Ma same thing on YouTube.
Some people want me to put it on TikTok too. Well,
they don't like long form videos. And even though I'm
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doing some shorts and I'm showing you some behind the
scenes stuff with my life. I think I took a
video of my sister earlier that was kind of weird.
She was holding a Chicago Bulls starter jacket. Even though
I'm doing other things, maybe some fitness advice on my
YouTube channel, I just look. I'm trying to make sure
that we don't run into the same problem that we
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are right now with streaming. The rebundling must start because
I am so damn tired of having to go to
five different places to watch TV shows, to watch movies.
Nobody likes it. I know we all wanted to cut
the cord. Initially, we were wrong. We have to admit
that now, so I'm not going to do the same
damn thing. There's just two places to find me and
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at follow Out of May is the handle for both
on YouTube now and on x been there since two
thousand and nine or something like that. Got my birthday
balloons on Twitter recently. So This is an off seasoned
edition of Clippers Talk edition and edition with some of
the guys that are now on the squad some of
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the guys who are gone. We'll talk about some of that.
We've discussed it at nauseum.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Paul George PG.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Thirteen with CND with Chuck and Will on the Clips
and Dip podcast. Still, I think I have a few
more things to say. I think Matt Moore might join
me from HP Basketball because we got into a Twitter
spat recently, so that could be entertaining a little back
and forth, a little embraced debate. Speaking of more on
that in a little bit here with some comments from
Stephen A. Smith. I put out a tweet earlier at
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follow out of May. That's really the only reason I'm
doing this episode. I just feel compelled to talk to
you right now. I get these urges to want to
talk more and more about the Clippers, and sometimes I
can't wait for Chucking Will. I just got to go
and I have the capabilities here, got the microphone, got
the HD stream going, and a little bit of a
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show for you, even though we're two months away from
being it into a dome. If you haven't gotten the
tour yet, I have not checking for that email.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Or I gotten it back yet. No, maybe they fired me.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get some video
for you add into a dome. I'm not Carlo Jimenez
with the tiktoking and the snap faces and all that stuff,
and I can't edit the way he can, but I
can do something. I could do something for you. I
just want to bring you more and more Clippers content,
and that's really what this channel is about. It will
veer off into some other areas and maybe I'll be
(03:28):
talking about Game of Thrones later or anything like that.
I just earlier today. It was a little bit impulsive,
but I made the commitment to be involved with social
media more for a year and just see how it goes.
See if I can grow the account at all. See
people care, if they're interested, if they.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Want more Clippers Talk from me.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
There is an off season edition. We won't have any
Clippers basketball Summer League's over two and a half muscle
the season stars. But again we got a pretty good
I don't know, we're poor myself in the audience here.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
We've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Those of you that have listened to Clippers Talk, the
Official Clippers podcast and show prehalf in post is what
I like to do. It is one of my favorite
things in the world. And every postgame show with Clippers
Talk where we take callers, we'll be doing that here
so much, just podcast form. Maybe at some point I'll
do some live streams and stuff, but every show ends
(04:26):
up at Clippers Talk on Spotify, on iTunes, wherever else
you find it now on YouTube and video form. If
you want to see me wearing a black tank top
like I'm Pat McAfee. It's not homage to him or
anything like that. It's just really damn hot lately. And
you know, I roll with the original pms. Not the
original original, but the show Petro some money show. Those
(04:48):
are my guys. Pat McAfee's fine, whatever, don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I will go after somebody else.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Though a little bit later here in the show, I
do feel you know what I'm gonna get you right now,
some type of way over a tweet I saw a
little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
If you're looking at my account at follow out of May,
I gave it a retweet.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It came from I had to double check this NBA Central,
the Dunk Central, which I think, while an aggregator does
not put out, you know, fake tweets. Barry mccochner stuff,
who I do like and I've interviewed before, but it's
not a fake account like MLB Facts with an X
that says Mike Trout has missed the last three thousand
(05:32):
games straight. It's an MLB record. It's nothing like that.
Now there is another one called NBA Central.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Tries to throw people off, like a fake WOJ account.
But this one, NBA Central, is legit. How do I
know it's legit. Well, it's got one point six million followers.
I've got like less than twenty right now on YouTube.
I'm just starting. Give me a break. But the content
that they put up earlier today comes from First Take,
(06:00):
And while they didn't post the clip, they posted a
snippet a quote from Steven A. Smith, something we've seen
many times before because one of his favorite people, for
whatever reason, to go after is Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Full disclosure. I met Steven A.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Smith one time at Fox Sports Radio back when he
was there. I went and got him pancakes late night
from someplace. He was nice, much quieter off the air,
and by all accounts, really good guy behind the scenes.
Of course, you don't get to see that side of him.
(06:39):
You get stuff like this, him saying, quote Kawhi Leonard
invents ways to get her.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Now, am I part of the problem too?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Because I am dunking on that comment and using it
to create my own content.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Here a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
We were all guilty of it from time to day time.
But this is not the first time that stephen A
has said this about Kawhi Leonard or something to this effect.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Remember after you got hurt, tore the.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Meniscus right knee in game two, might've actually tour it
in game one, played through it in game two, wasn't
able to go the rest of the series against the
Phoenix Suns in twenty twenty three in the first round, well,
he said he should retire. Then Kawhi Leonard came back,
had one of his best seasons last year. Ever regular
(07:34):
season wise ended up I think at sixty seven and
sixty eight games played before. Unfortunately then he was swallowed
up again or swollowed up again. But he had a
stretch that was historic. I was chronicling it saying Kawhi
for MVP with a hashtag all over Twitter. I was
trying to make sure everybody knew just how efficient he was.
(07:55):
Where over a thirty game stretch, he set the all
time efficiency record an NBA history over that long of
a period of time, shooting shooting splits of fifty seven
fifty one ninety fifty seven percent from the floor, fifty
one percent from three ninety percent for the free throw
line over a thirty game span. God Tyr is just
(08:18):
scratching the surface of what he was doing. Basketball deirvana
was being reached. It was unbelievable. And I've said this
before and I'll say it again because I'm hoping for
it to happen again. When Kawhi Leonard has gotten hurt,
he has come back stronger and a more efficient player.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's a fact we've seen.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
People always talk about the run in twenty nineteen with
the Toronto Raptors. The numbers he was putting up in
twenty twenty one with the Clippers were even better in
the playoffs before he got hurt. The numbers he just
put up last year coming off the meniscus.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's the best regular season stretch up.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
His career, and people slept on it. They weren't paying attention.
Why the Clippers were at the top of the conference
for about two days if that, and then they went
through that swoon in January and February dropped down to
fourth place. He gets hurt on March thirty first, apparently
(09:17):
against the Charlotte Hornets. Was out after that tried to
give it a go in the playoffs. And this is
kind of the crux of the issue here. This is
where I have a problem with Stephen A. Smith. I'm
not going to go after him like he went after
Kalmi Brown, but there are I'm sure people in the business,
in the industry that feel the same way about him
and his ran about kawme because he does stuff like this,
(09:41):
and I get it. He is ESPN and this is
how he gets paid, and apparently he's damn good at it.
He's the highest paid person there. But he says ridiculous
things for attention. Quote Kawhi Leonard in Ben's Ways to
get hurt, quote Kawhi Leonards to retire, he finds a
(10:07):
polarizing subject. This is what.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Gets me going.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
People act like there are actually classes on sports media
and broadcasting and journalism. There are classes out there. I
think my friend Rob Parker teaches one of them. Maybe
a usc love Rob the hobmong the YouTube at some
point on clipper Stock. But there are actual sports media
(10:36):
classes out there, Like it's not obvious what Stephen A.
Smith is doing, Like they have to teach you a
class about what's happening here. The jig is up, guys.
It's pretty obvious to everyone, at least it should be.
I'm gonna lay it out for you.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
All you do to gain attention.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Is get on a big enough platform, say some inflammatory,
usually inaccurate things, some low information takes about a polarizing
team or polarizing player, teams like the Lakers and Cowboys
or Patriots, or players like Tom Brady and Lebron James.
(11:26):
And what you do is you split the audience into two,
not in a bad way, not like you're talking politics
and you're gonna lose half the audience. You actually gain
both sides because you garner attention from the positive side
of the group that likes what you're saying, loves that player,
(11:47):
loves that team. If that's the angle you're taking, say,
it's I don't know, Skip Bayless defending Michael Jordan as
if his legacy hasn't been defended enough all the time.
It is a religion for some of these older gentlemen
saying get off my lawn, or shaking their fists of
(12:09):
the clouds, get off my clouds. Kind of what they're saying, the.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Old ways were better.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I think their nostalgia tripping. That's beside the point. Half
the people are going to agree with them and they're
gonna get attention off of that.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
The other half.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
They're gonna hate what they're saying, but they're gonna hate
watch it. They're gonna continue to watch to hate watch
like I have with somebody shows I should have gotten
out of earlier, like The Walking Dead, like how did
I make it to Season seven? Stupid Mayer and stuff,
and then Nakan the Bat that was a pretty good
(12:51):
tease of whoho is going to kill? But they killed
two people.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
This is what sports media has become.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Just talk about someone polarizing, talk about a team that
people love to hate and some people love to love,
like the Cowboys, and you will get your audience. And
it's so simplistic and so it's sports simpleton. That's what
(13:24):
it is, sports simpleton talk. I hate it. I've been
asking for this for a while. I've been waiting for
a hot take bubble to come. Maybe it's happening Skip Bayless.
I don't know if he's retiring or just leaving FS one,
but people are patting him on the back, like Nick
(13:47):
Right and saying he carved out a lane.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Nick right.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I think acknowledge that he might not have a job
or be in this business and the manner he is
if it wasn't for guys like Skip Bayless. I think
it is some of the downfall of sports talk, of commentary,
of analysis.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
If you want to call it that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Some people call it journalism. The landscape has changed so much,
but it's just so transparent what's going on. It's so
easy to be divisive. I don't see it as talent
so much. It's just a formula for success, an easy
one that they've been writing for so long, like a
(14:32):
bad dose coin or something some whacked out crypto Kanye coin.
What is that still around? Do I still have some.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The bubble may be happening before our eyes.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think people are starting to tune out guys like
Steven A a little bit more. I think the rating
can say that, I don't know if it's a cry
wolf thing. How many times do we have to hear
false narratives and inflammatory speak and outrageous takes when we
(15:09):
know better. Granted, sometimes once in a while it's entertaining.
He was screaming about weed. Lay off the weed. I
once in a while, Max Kellerman saying I want a
goadala that gets used in the DJ beat, But I
(15:29):
think it's just so appealing to the lowest common denominator
that I think is starting to smart and smarten up.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And I'm hoping.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Because I really changed things here with my one reach
wheet of the Steven A. Smith quote regarding Kawhi Leonard saying,
quote Kawhi Leonard events ways to get hurt, and me saying,
Kawhi is trying to give it a go in Game three,
as I posted the clip of him hanging on the
rim against the Dallas Mavericks when he probably shouldn't have
been playing at that point, but was trying so hard
(16:00):
to go for the Clippers. He was laboring out there,
noticeably gimpy, limping around, and he caught that alley from
Paul George, who I don't know why he was throwing
him an lu if he knows Kawhy is hurt.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Kawi went up and.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Got it, and then he hung on the rim, afraid
to land. It looked like because of that impact on
the force of hitting the court on his right knee.
It's hard to watch, it's painful to watch, and I'm
sure it was painful to be out there.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And he was.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Don't tell me he's inventing ways to get hurt. Don't
tell me he doesn't love basketball. Don't tell me he
isn't trying to win a championship for the Clippers. His
body has betrayed him. Yes, that's a fact he's been
injury prone. It's a fact he hasn't been able to
close out a season the last four for the Clippers.
No one is more upset about this than Kawhi just
(16:54):
because he's not holding the press conference, just because he's
not putting the press sho release out there on social media.
And I know he doesn't need me defending him. But
when you see Lawrence Frank out there talking about Team
USA sticking up for his guy and Kawhi, you knew
who was disappointed I'd being able to play. And we've
talked about what seems like a double standard. Kevin Urant
(17:17):
didn't play at all in exhibition games that for TMOSA
this year, but they kept him on the team. Okay,
didn't seem like much of a collaborative effort with Kawhi
Leonard and the Clippers for why he was left off
Team USA.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Different subject for a different day.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
We talked about it on Clips and Dip with til
Marrazari a couple of weeks ago. But he wants to play.
You don't got to kick a guy when he's down.
That's what Steven A. Smith is doing. And it's just
so weak and just it gets me irked because he's
(17:58):
gonna get eyeballs over and a lot of low level
NBA people are gonna be like, yeah, Coawha never plays,
he can never play. You can never make it through
the playoffs, make it through the regular season. It's like,
what do you want to do? Scream at his knee
stop swelling, and what can he do outside of put
(18:19):
the work in, do his best, be prepared for each
and every season. I mean, now we see we hear
the same people who are giving him grief for allegedly
load managing when I think he was hurt. You saw
him limping around the twenty nineteen finals, was coming off
that injury. Load managed the first couple of years with
(18:40):
the Clippers. It's like, yeah, I think if there's anyone
who's rightfully load managing, I think it's a guy like
Kawhi Leonard. I think it's someone who's one of the
greatest NBA players at his peak in a high leverage
situation in a playoff series.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I think there's probably a top ten all time playoff performer.
You look at his numbers over his last sixty playoff
games since he became an undisputed Number one was San
Antonio in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Ridiculous numbers.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Over thirty points, over fifty percent, shooting about forty percent
from the outside. He's a playoff all time riser. But
to continually harp on it and go after him for
not being out there doesn't really help the situation much.
He wants to be out there. If his body allows
him to be out hit there, he'll be out there.
(19:35):
I just I don't know a guy like Steven A.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Smith who.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Seen some of his basketball highlights. Not that I say,
because you know who am I that would be.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Hypocritical of me.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'm not saying you got to be a professional basketball
player to criticize guys. But I'm saying, if you're going
after someone for trying to play, playing through it, being
injury prone, no fault of his own, his body betraying him,
that might be crossing the line. As someone who didn't
(20:09):
play at the highest level that suspect to me. But again,
the attention is going to be there regardless unless we
get rid of this hot take bubble world we have
been living in for far too long now. It would
be great to have some more honest sports takes, like
(20:30):
how is Tim Leagler not the most well known basketball
guy on ESPN. He's brilliant. He's hopefully going to be
calling a lot more games next season. I don't know
why that hasn't started up before this him as the
color commentator. Fantastic, He's an actual basketball analyst. Instead, we
(20:54):
have to listen to stephen A and Kendrick Perkins routinely
get the facts wrong and just spit out hot take
after hot take, with Bob Myers trying to join them,
I don't know, reduce himself to throwing out hot takes.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I love the TNT guys, I also feel like they
could do a little bit more basketball analysis. I understand
the point of their the most entertaining of the hot
take artists out there, and they are Sometimes they sound
pretty well informed and like they don't actually watch games,
and I think they've admitted that many times before. Still,
they are the most entertaining studio hosts in the history
(21:40):
of existence. That's not the case with Stephen A. Smith.
A lot of these guys are just living off of
saying inaccurate things for far too long. And I just
did not like what he said about Kawhi Leonard over
the last week and what he's been saying about him
now for a couple of years. How is he the
guy to tell someone else to retire a professional athlete. Yeah,
(22:13):
you know, it wasn't as hot in here earlier, but
now I'm kind of kind of getting myself worked up
a little bit here.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
He's the best at his craft. This is what he does,
this is how he's made a living. Doesn't mean it
can't push back, not that Kawhi needs my help. And yeah,
maybe I'm using him for content, just like he does
with other stuff. Ah, it's tough not to well. I
(22:43):
have to live with those double standards sometimes rules for the.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Not for me.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Look, I'm not telling any professional athlete to retire, not
in a position where I'd feel comfortable ever doing that.
But the clickbaiting, the aggregating, this is what works.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'm hoping.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I'll play less of the game myself and just talk
more Clippers basketball as we move along here. I do
want to talk with I believe he's at HP Basketball.
Matt Moore. Yeah, Matt Moore, NBA writer for Action Network HQ. Now,
we did get into a debate about Paul George or
(23:31):
he said something that I found to be a little
bit off, and I'll just give you a preview of
that in case I have him on later this week.
I am efforting that conversation, but he said something to
see the effect of what they'll miss most is Paul
George's leadership. I'm not sure that's the case. They will
(23:54):
miss Paul George. I think on the court is basketball talent. Yes,
there's no way to replace that guy. However, the way
the Clippers have pivoted pretty impressive. From the front office.
I have to say, I'm a big Lawrence Frank guy.
Let Lawrence Frank cook. This offseason. You got to see
him a little bit less restricted with some of the
(24:15):
moves he's been making and how he'd liked to build
the team because they're under both aprons. So am I
excited for Clippers basketball? Yes, this defensive oriented team that
we're gonna be looking at this year, It's gonna be fun.
You can win a lot of games on defense, God willing,
(24:36):
Kawhi Leonards is healthy, James Harden and the Clippers still
have enough on the offensive side to scare a lot
of teams in this league. I just want to see
Kawhi Leonard be healthy. That's what we all want.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I think we all want.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Well, this has been an off season addition of Clippers talk.
I'm oudam Oslin and these impromptu episodes could just be
happening now. I don't know. I see something else on
Twitter gets me going. Somebody was telling me about Kayi
Jones and how he should be the starter. Maybe I'll
(25:14):
try to put that to rest. As the rumors are
eat to Zubots, you know, contract extension, who knows could
be coming. We just saw another big man and Jared
Allen get paid in the Cleveland Cavaliers, and it beats
Zubots top five room protector has been pretty much the
entire time he's been in the league so far. So
(25:34):
maybe I'll address that a little bit later this week.
I don't know. I just like the freedom to be
able to crack a mic and turn it on whenever
I feel like it. If you're listening to this on
the Spotify side, on the iTunes side, on the podcast side,
well that's cool, but maybe give me a subscribe on YouTube,
check out the video, maybe watch clips and dip. I
(25:57):
don't normally wear a tank top on there a jersey.
I have one before Dick Povetta. But yeah, I'm in
rare form in some ways going after the sports media landscape.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
On the hot take bubble.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
That may have just popped a little.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Bit, a little a little bit of the air came out.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't know. Skip Bayless is probably gonna go back
on ESPN. He mad Dog and Steven A. Smith will
endlessly going after one another. Oh that would be painful,
and mad Dog's another one. Yeah, I don't want to
have to light up too many people here. I could
just start playing clips, but then I may copyright stuff YouTube.
(26:38):
I don't know how all this works. You guys know
me and technology. We're trying to figure things out together,
our relationships. A little bit afraid. Until next time, this
has been Clippers talk. I'm out a Mason, I'll talk to.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You later this week.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
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