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Insurance dot com for more info.Hey, it's Uncle Mike and joining me
this morning in the studio is adear old friend, actually someone who's part
of my family. I got involvedwith Frank Castelli sin here. Good morning,
Frank, how are you? Goodmorning. I don't like to use
the term old friend. We've beenlongtime friends. Okay, quite well taken.
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I got involved with Frank quite afew years ago with the Veterans Appreciation
Project, which is the main thingwe're going to talk about today, and
that features the Warrior Wagon, whichis an incredible wagon that Frank built.
He is he conceived the whole projectwith the Warrior Wagon. He designed it
and he built it. And he'shad a lifelong history of breeding and showing
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percheron horses, which is how wepower the Warrior wagon. We're gonna talk
a little bit about that too,but before we get into that, Frank,
I always like the people listening tous just to get a little bit
about the voice behind the microphone.Just give a little bit of your background
so they can get an idea ofwhat you're show. More than two hours,
well, we can do it intwo parts. Okay, Well,
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I'm gonna give you a little briefsynopsis of what my experience with the horses
has been. Started as a youngboy up in New Hampshire watching the loggers
pull stuff out. I was inthe mid early nineteen fifties. Being a
little boy, I was very curiousabout it and really amazed me to watch
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these great, big horses yet sogentle hook up the logs and pull them
out, and they actually if theysaw a snag on a trail, they
turn their head and look back andmoved the log around without any assistance.
They call them twitching horses. Andactually, at the time a horse that
would do a job as a twitchinghorse it was probably worth three times more
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than a regular draft horse. Theywould go from the top of the mountain
to the bottom of a mountain unassisted. After they made the run a few
times with somebody driving them, there'dbe a person at the bottom of the
hill and a person at the topof the hill, and they dragged the
horses or the logs down with thehorses, and then they turn around,
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give them a piece of a carrotor a chunk of sugar, and they'd
go back up to the top wherethey'd get a treat and do the same
thing all over again. And itused to amaze me to see how these
horses did it. So I gotto burn back then an interest in me
with horses, and particularly draft horses, and I always said, someday I
wanted a team of my own.Fast forward a number of years, and
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I used to hang around We livedin Connecticut, and I hung around the
blacksmith shop down the road from us, and there was an old gentleman there
named Old Joe Chriz, and hestill shod horses in the blacksmith shop.
People would bring him down on atruck with a trailer or what have you,
and he would put shoes on him. And I used to watch him,
watch him work the forge, andI'd clean up a little bit do
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little odd jobs around there, andI kind of became a mascot to the
farm. His two sons, Johnnyand Joe, who are both deceased now,
but they'd be well into their hundredsif they were alive today. We're
both World War Two veterans and theywere in the cavalry, believe it or
not, in World War Two.So when they came home from the war,
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they started shoeing horses and they werethe first mobile blacksmiths in the Northeast.
Somehow, John Chris had a connectionwith Aggie Bush from Annheuser Busch,
and Aggie talked him into being thefirst flying ferrier and wherever the Clydesdale hitch
would be at the time and theyneeded to be shod, they would be
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there to do it. You know, they'd fly anywhere in the country to
do the horses. So it wasan interesting upbringing I was at that time.
I was probably twelve thirteen years oldand just always had an interest and
then began breaking and driving horses onthe farm and we would go to Danbury
Fair. It was a privately runfair by mister Lehigh in Danbury, and
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would bring fifty horses to the fairwith harness and equipment, so it was
a challenge every day being a privatelyrun fair, and they ran a parade
every day, and we would harnessand hook up maybe twenty four twenty six
horses each day for the parade.I think I was probably sixteen years old.
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And one of the gentlemen that drovethe stage coach normally, whose name
coincidentally was Frank name was Frank Castlebecause they couldn't pronounce my real name Castella,
So Frank didn't show up. Oneday and the parade is ready to
step off, and Johnny said,Castle, jump up on the wagon and
follow the crowd. And there's fourhorses hooked up on the wagon. I
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never drove four horses before. AndI got up there and I said,
Johnny, what do I do?It's just follow everybody else. Horses are
well broke. And that was thebeginning of my multiple driving career. Showed
horses right up until two thousand andfourteen. I one Senior Driver award in
two thousand and fourteen at the WorldShow. I came out of the arena,
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I thought to myself, you know, these are horses that we raised
and bred ourselves. My family wasmy crew. I built the wagon.
I'm very proud of that wagon.It's a showpiece. It's well known throughout
the country. But when I cameout of the arena, I just said,
you know what, it's not goingto get any better than this.
This is time to retire. SoI feel like I retired at the time.
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But you can't get what we callhorse manure out of your blood.
Sure you know there's another vernacular namethat we could use for that, but
it's horse manure and your blood basically. Yeah. So, Frank, it's
interesting and fascinating story, and I'veheard it before, obviously, and I'm
humbled an honor that you've got meinvolved with the Veteran's Appreciation Project and the
Warrior Wagon. I am the voiceof the Warrior Wagon, and it's grown
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so much in the last few years. Obviously we had to put our brakes
on for two years now because ofCOVID, but we've got some exciting things
happening. And I want to makeit a point. Everybody's probably gonna laugh
when they hear this, and you'regonna chuckle, But the Percheron horses and
all the driving you did, andnow the Warrior wagon. That's a hobby
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for you, that wasn't your mainlivelihood. You've been a printer, You've
been a printer all your life.Yes, I am, and and that
we went through some changes with thatjust recently as well. Yeah, I
sold my business two years ago andretired. I'm going on seventy eight in
January. My mind still tells meI could do everything I did forty years
ago. My body sometimes doesn't alwayscooperate, but I'm very thankful at my
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age that I can still do whatI do. Work pretty much every day.
I build hot rods. I haveseveral that I'm working on right now.
I take care of the farm,the horses and the maintenance. My
wife does all the mowing around thefarm. I call it a one man
circus with little help from my wife, and it does turn out to be
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a circus at times. You know, we enjoy the farm, we're up
off a grunt and the road.But the most enjoyment that we get is
when we put veterans on that wagonand listen to the comments and look at
the smiles that we get when wehave an honest ceremony. It's very,
very touching. The first time wecame out with the Warrior Wagon. Was
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at the World perch ron Show,and which you remember you were there personally.
We did the first honest ceremony includingmyself. There wasn't a dry eye
and the whole coliseum, and thatwas at the Big E. It's a
large coliseum, but it's just it'sa very emotional time. We've honored somewhere
around six hundred veterans since we started. But the interesting part is, and
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the part that I'm most proud of, is a lot of these veterans,
whether they're World War Two veterans orVietnam or Korea, never really got a
proper thank you when they came home, particularly the guys from Vietnam. You
know, I grew up in anera where we saw a lot of World
War Two veterans that had come home. We used to see a lot of
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the newsreel clips and stuff, youknow, from Korea, and they'd have
ticker tape parades and stuff. Butwhen the guys came home from Vietnam,
they had an awful hard time there. The news media, for the most
part, not all, but forthe most part really put them down,
which they should never should have.And they came home to some hard feelings
with people. It was tough onthe guys. So when we do an
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honest ceremony, and like I said, I don't care what arror they were
from, it's very emotional. Theguys really appreciate it. I designed a
really nice metal. If people areinterested, they could go to our Facebook
page. It's Warrior Wagon on Facebook, of which there are several. There
are several of them that they callWarrior wagons that are hot dog carts and
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Hamburger cards. But if you searcharound see the Warrior wagon. You could
put Franka Stella behind it will showup. There's some wonderful videos of some
of the bigger honest ceremonies. Thispast summer, we were able to get
one really nice ceremony in and thatwas the nine to eleven one that you
helped organize and officiate Tilsa County Fairgrounds. Yeah. Why don't you tell us
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a little bit about that, becauseyou have a better insight than I do.
Yeah. Well, the Director ofVeteran Services, who incidentally we both
had a lot of history with becausewe used to do the shows over at
Stewart and he was the chief MasterSergeant there so he was the liaison between
the civilians and the military there.So Mark casuppose he was he retired from
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Aaron became the director of Veteran Servicesand he called me up last year and
said, you know, I gotto go ahead and do an honor ceremony
for nine to eleven. And youknow, we got the fair grounds and
then we called Frank right away toget the Warrior Wagon involved and we put
the show together and we raised weused the show. It was a free
show, but we had some greatsponsors and we collected money at the show
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itself. We were able to raiseabout thirty thousand for Hope for Heroes.
We thought we were going to havea lot bigger crowd than we had,
and looking back, I had saidit was a bad idea to do it
on nine to eleven, and itwas unfortunately, because that's a wonderful venue.
Yeah, it lent itself perfectly forthe show. The stage, the
infield, everything was just textbook.It was beautiful and we're gonna do it
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again next year. We already startedplanning for next year, but I want
to go back. Frank. Youwere talking about all the different veterans we've
had on and first responders as well. We we've honored some first responders,
which we're going to continue to do, yes, fireman, first responders,
Law enforcement correction eleven. Event waspeople, Yeah, not necessarily even in
public service, but went in tothe World Trade Center complex and helped to
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clean up and find bodies and peopleand what have you. So it was
it was an honor for us todo it. Yeah. But when we
talk about veterans, I had theunique perspective. So actually this past Friday,
my father would have been ninety nineyears old. He was a World
War Two veteran, decorated Bronze Star, and my oldest brother served in Vietnam,
so I got to see both sidesof that. My father's stories were
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a lot different than my brother's stories. Obviously, my brother was a extremely
proud Vietnam veteran and proud of allhis guys, but he endured a lot
when he came home. Tina,my better half's two brothers both served during
the Vietnam War, one state sideand one was in Vietnam in country,
and he still tears up when hetalks about coming home. He remembers having
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they lived in the bronx came intothe port authority and he was spit on.
He has his uniform on and heremembers cleaning his uniform before, so
his mother didn't see it. Whenyou think about that, that's something no
one should have to go through,was especially somebody who just risked their life
for this country. More than risktheir lives, they put everything on the
line. Boy. And then oneof the guys in the offensive that kept
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on going in with the helicopter.I think he got wounded four times with
six helicopters shot out from under him, and I guess his commander after like
the third or fourth one, toldhim he couldn't go back, and he
said, somebody's gonna have to shootme to stop me to go back,
And he went in, grabbed anotherhelicopter and kept on bringing supplies in.
And we had the honor of havinghim on the Warrior Wagon. Unfortunately,
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I don't remember his name. Ithink we have a record of it somewhere,
but he had more medals on hischest. I thought we were going
to have to use a lift toget him on. You know, it's
interesting, Frank, And unfortunately it'sonly a half hour show, and some
of the stories of the veterans thatwe've had on there. The one that
comes mine was Edie Meek. Youknow, she was a nurse in Vietnam
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and you've seen her now. She'sbeen in several documentaries. And Frank has
a rule with female veterans, theywrite up front with Frank and he's and
everyone has and of course was actuallyhad a couple of service members at the
nine to eleven memorial that Mark corralledand had him right on the seat with
me. Yeah. Well that's justone of the rules. That's where it
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goes. Well, we have tohave a little fun, you know,
and there's nothing like a little bitof camaraderie and the whole crew, you
know, Jimmy Lieberman, Dale Martin. We lost Bill Martin, he passed
away a year or so ago,but his son came down. Yea,
his son lives up in Plattsburgh andhe took his dad's place for that show,
and we dedicated the flag that,yeah, the pow flag that Bill
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Martin didn't like the quality of thebow flag that we had on the Warrior
wagon, so he had one maidwhich is quite a nice intricate and you
could read it from both sides.Beautiful, beautiful flag, and we were
waiting to have a ceremony so thatwe could dedicate that flag to Bill.
In the meantime, Bill passed away. I think he passed away several days
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after I got the flag in themail, So it was kind of emotional
for the whole crew, and UncleMike did a nice service for him and
we made the presentation and his sonactually put the flag on the Warrior Wagon.
Yeah, it's one of those momentsthat well, we remember for the
rest of our lives. Rank Let'stalk real quickly about the Veteran's Appreciation project,
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and there's a there's a real incrediblestory that kind of motivated you.
Katie's crew who was on the sideof the wagon kind of was sort of
your motivation for the whole thing.B seventeen Katie's Boys. Yeah, that
was my father in law was onthat crew during the war. March ninth,
I think it was nineteen forty four, if I remember correctly, They
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were on a bombing mission over inGermany. Bresden, I believe was their
target. The B seventeens flew daylightraids and big formations their only safety they
had. They really couldn't get awayfrom the flat because they were at ten
thousand feet somewhere in that vicinity andthe big cannons the flack would come up
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by him their plane got disabled.But the only safety net they really had
in those big formations was their crossfire. The B seventeens had machine guns all
around them, tailgun, belly gun, turrent gunner, so my father in
law was what they call an axialgunner. He would have been on one
side, behind the wing, onone side of the ship or the other,
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and he was also the ship's armoreror what they call a mad deuce
or the fifty caliber double machine gunsthat each station had. They lost hydraulics
and one engine to a flack,and the day that they went on this
mission, I think it was theirtwenty third mission, the belly gun and
the turn had a panic attack,and you couldn't be a big guy to
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get in. There had to bea small man. My final law wasn't
too big, but he had beentrained on that turn, and the turrent
gunner couldn't get in, so heswapped positions with him. He got into
belly turn and the turrent gunner tookthe axial gun. Of course, when
they started hitting flak, one ofthe cartridges got jammed up in the track
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of the turn. And as theplanes started veering away and broke formation and
the German fighters would shoot them down, they couldn't go into the formation of
the fighters because the crossfire, theway that they were set up and the
way those groups were designed, Iguess you would say their positions had so
much crossfire that a fighter couldn't getthrough them. They would try to pick
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off planes as they got disabled,and they did all everybody. The pilot
called everybody to bail out, andmy final law couldn't turn the turn to
getting up his position to get out. Well, a guy that he took
the place of and one other gunnerthat was the other actual gunner kept on
working on that. As the planewas spiraling down. Pilot and the co
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pilot were ready to bail, butthey wouldn't bail until they got Curly out,
who was my father in law,Curly Hutchings, otherwise known as Derwood
Hutchings, but everybody called them Curly. And they worked on that turn until
somebody figured out where the casing waslodging up the gear track and they got
out and just about in time,the bail and everybody on the plane survived.
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When I initially had the concept ofbuilding the Warrior Wagon, it came
to mind, I held my fallingon a very great reverence, great person,
and when it came time to builda Warrior Wagon, we just decided.
I said, you know what,there's no better way to honor his
name than to dedicate the Warrior Wagonto the crew of Katie's Boys. And
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I get chills every time you tellthe story, and and I'm proud to
be part of it because of thatstory, the Warrior Wagon itself. Frank,
So the Veteran's Appreciation Project is somethingyou decided that you wanted to do
for the rest of your life.Even before you thought about retiring and selling
the business, you had started it. And we've been trying to get our
nonprofit status for quite some time,and it just seemed like one thing after
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another was coming up that we justnever got it accomplished. So everything that
we've been doing, the six hundredplus we've honored, and all the events
you've seen as that have virtually comeout of Frank's pocket. I mean,
he's had a little help here andthere, but not a lot, and
we need to get a nonprofit.So we were lucky our affiliation with the
Hope for Heroes Foundation. Well,we got talking with Mitch and Lisa who
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founded that, and we are goingto become part of the Hope for Heroes
Foundation and we were going to workoff there at five oh one c three.
So now we are a nonprofit.So everybody listening to us it has
always said they wanted to help andthey wanted to donate. Okay, we're
going to have our nonprofit status,so we need to checks. We need
to start having that money come inbecause if we're going to continue this,
it's expensive because a lot of moneyto take care of the horses, and
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if we're going to travel with it, that's even more expensive. Yeah,
that's a lot expense involved. Rightnow, all the trucks and trailers and
everything I've been supporting at seventy eightyears old is getting a little harder for
me to keep up with it.We're to the point where it would be
good if we could hire somebody torun the trucks and you know, do
the preparation work, because it's gettingto the point where even with my volunteers,
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you know, my main guy isJimmy Lieberman and Dale Martin comes whenever
he can. But Dale and Iare both the same vintage, so he's
slowed down a bit as well.But to me, it's a way to
give back to our veterans and consequentlyto our country and it means an awful
lot. And anybody who has seenthe Warrior Wagon, either when we used
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to do Duchess County Fair or anyof the local parades, we've done the
Veterans they parade up in Hartford,we've done the the events down at Stewart
Air Base Military Appreciation Day down there. We've got a really neat poster that
we did with the Warrior Wagon infront of one of the new C seventeens
with Colonel Donald the commander on board, and she did right up front with
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Frank like she was with Colonel Donald. Is the first female base commander ever,
right, Actually she's now General Donald's. She just promoted and oh,
we had a lot of fun thatday. It was a lot of enjoyment.
But Frank, so our goal,your goal, and you've taken me
along with you, is we'd liketo be able to take this wagon around
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the country and on our veterans,and we can't do that until we get
some funding because it's just doing whatwe're doing here in the region is expensive.
If we've got to start traveling acrosscountry the horses, you've got worked
out, You've got one team left, and we do have to mention.
Unfortunately, in the last couple ofweeks, the leader of the of the
teams since I've been involved, Richard, unfortunately passed away. And when I
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say unfortunately, it's unfortunate that he'sgone, but he had him won the
hell of a ride, Yeah hedid, and he was one heck of
a horse. Yeah, he hada good lifespan. He lived to be
twenty five and in a big horseworld, that's well aged. I would
put that in comparison to human beingprobably somewhere around one hundred years old.
I'm speaking with Frank Castella, Senior, who was the creator, designer and
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builder of the Warrior Wagon and whoconceived the Veterans Appreciation Project, which is
what this is all about, thankingveterans and first responders. Richard unfortunately,
he had a couple of years ofretirement on the farm. He did alrighty,
he was retired about five years.Yeah, but Richard and Edward,
who is the elder team that youhave, and you have Revin count or
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the younger team we use now,and they're coming into their own they oh
yeah, no, no, they'rewell into their own. But the thing
I remember most real quickly with Richardand Edward, we were up at the
Duchess County Fair and he used tocome out of the tent and parade over
to the gazebo where I was todo the honor ceremony. Well, I
look up one time when I seethe horses come out and the trailer is
kind of going sideways because Frank hasa habit of not taking the brakes off,
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and these two incredible horses were dragginga loaded wagon, ten thousand pound
wagon with the wheels locked across thegrass. Everybody yelled at Frank to take
the breaks off. I don't thinkthe younger team, even as good as
they are now, could pull thatoff, because I agree with you,
they're a little smaller, a littlelighter. They were our lead team on
the six. Yeah, and generallyyou put your lighter horses out on the
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lead. Then middle team is theswing, and then your big team and
the strongest ones, that what youcall the wheel team closest to the wagon.
All the memories I haven't I tellyou I have a boatload of incredible
memories Frank that I have because ofbeing part of this. I'll never forget
that. Because I got over yougot over there, and I said to
Jimmy Lieberman, I said, whywas that wagon going sideways? He said,
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Frank left the brakes out and theguys were just dragging it across the
grass. That's incredible. What youthink about it? Do you know the
story I love is Charley Phillips.That's probably one of my favorite stories.
The fair starts on a Tuesday,and we had lined up. We don't
have to get at least twelve,and we can get a few more in
the back. We have seating fortwelve veterans, and we can get fourteen
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sixteen on the wagon. Few ofguys and gals will stand up in the
back, and generally we'll get anextra one on the seat with me and
I look up. We're just aboutready to step off for the honest ceremony,
which would be at one o'clock.And I looked to my left and
walking down one of the aisles atthe fair is a middle aged woman and
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rather old, kind of hunched overman, walking with her armed arm,
and she walks up to the sideof the wagon and she says, mister
Castella, do you think my fathercould write on the wagon? He's a
World War Two veteran and he wasin the Battle of the Bulge. And
all of a sudden it hit me, Man, we got like, we
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got more people on this wagon,and when we could hardly even fit there
in the back, like they're ridingin the train in Manhattan. And I
turned around and it just came outof my mouth. It dawned on me.
I said, would wanted few soldiersyield your seat to a veteran of
World War two Battle of the Bulls. And everybody on the wagon stood up
and saluted. And I looked tomy left, which is the single seats
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that one side's got single seats,the other side's got double seats. And
there was a young soldier there,and I said, a soldier, I
said, would you mind going downand assisting this gentleman on? His name
was Charlie Phillips, which we foundout later on. He went down and
we were going to bring him upon the wheelchair lift and he say no,
no, he says, I'm goingup on the steps. Well,
they bought him up on the steps. Jim assisted him make sure he wouldn't
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fall, and everybody stood at attention. He came up and he sat in
his seat, and then everyone satdown and I saw the young soldier getting
off the wagon and said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute,
soldier, I said, you getback on here and stand up with
the guys in the back. Andwe went through the honest ceremony. Afterwards,
everybody got off and they all,if you remember, they all stayed
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at attention while Charlie was the lastone off. So fast forward to the
following day. Now, normally peoplewill ride once on the Warrior Wagon.
But the following day, just aboutthe time we're ready to step off,
who comes walking down with his daughterbut Charlie Phillips. And this time he
comes up to me says, Frank, do you think I can ride on
the wagon again today? Well,we did that repeat performance every day and
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we were glad to do it.And we were glad to do it.
We had Charlie on every day exceptfor Sunday, which is traditionally the last
day of the fair. But hisfamily were showing their cows on Sunday and
they weren't able to bring him downand he wanted to stay and watch his
grandchildren show the cows. But that'sour Charlie Phillips story, and I'll tell
you it's one of the most heartwarmingthings that every time I talk about it
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and think about it, it bringsa big smile to my face. Unfortunately,
Frank, it's the fastest thirty minutesin radio. But I wanted to
highlight a little bit more like wejust did about the Warrior Wagon and the
fact that we are moving forward asa nonprofit with the Hope for Heroes.
If you go to Heroes Hope dotorg, I believe is the website will
be up on there very soon andyou'll be able to donate there for the
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Warrior Wagon as we will be anonprofit. Uh, Frank, if they
want to get on, I thinkit really I guess the best place.
If you put the Warrior Wagon onFacebook, you can really see what we're
all about. Yeah, it explainsthe whole process of you building the wagon.
Yeah, but I think that's on. Yeah, it's a world War
two surplus wagon that Frank bought upin Alaska, and there's a story we
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probably can't tell how he got itback to New York, but he did
and ended up using really just therunning gear and the wheels, more or
less of what the and then youbuilt everything else. It was a big
trailer, four wheel trailer that theyused to transport a d iSER up in
the air base in Alaska. WhenI bought it, paid dollar for it,
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but then I had to figure outhow to get it home. They
had taken the compressor and the tankoff, so it was really just the
running gear. But we managed toget at home through cooperation of some people.
And that story and then the buildingof it is on Facebook. I
think, yeah, if you goback far enough, you can find a
lot of the pictures and so forth. So Frank, we'll have you back
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again because we're hoping next year,between becoming nonprofit and things finally opening back
up, that we're going to doa lot more ceremonies next year. That's
our goal. Anyway, that's thegoal. How can people get a hold
of you right now? Frank?What's the best way to get a hold
of you? Well, I don'tknow my email. I guess okay c
as d I e sel cast Dieselat aol dot com. That's my own.
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So if you're interested in in bookingus or having it. You got
an event you think we should bepart of, send Frank an email and
well, we're rather limited on whatwe could do because of help and so
forth, but we're working on it. I have to tell you one of
the next generations of the of theCastle family, Kayden, your grandson is
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in here with us. He's beenvery cooperative and very quiet, but it's
nice to see him and his sisterand your daughter who are very involved.
Yeah, she's the CEO and sheruns the Clydesdale Registry and the half Linger
Registry as well as the Perch run. So the family is there. It's
going to be able to carry thison, which is hopefully Yeah, well
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it's got it. We're gonna be. We'd like to be able to put
things in place because at my age, we'd like to get everything lined up
so that this project could continue onupon my demise, which I'm figuring I'm
going to live to be about onehundred and ten and I probably have to
slow down when I'm one hundred andfive, so we're playing on that.
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I will tell you of all thethings, a lot of things I love
about Frank, one of them ishe is a stubborn old cust so I
can tell you he's going to bearound for a while. Frank, thanks
for stopping by. Thank you.And it's an honor for us to be
at the radio station. And mightI add a little bit of a piation
to Uncle Mike. Mike has beenthere for the veterans, whether it's the
Warrior Wagon or the Trees for Troopsor any program that they run. Uncle
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Mike is the voice and he's beenat the parades. I call him up,
say Mike, this is what we'regoing to do. He says,
oh, I'll be there. Yeah. Well, it's the least we can
do, Frank, for everybody whowas willing to risk their life. That's
what we always tell people. Sometimeswe'll have somebody that's rather reluctant to be
honored, and through the course ofevents, we came up with a little
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scenario and it's so so true.And the question that we ask him,
did you take an oath? Yes, did you say you would do anything
that they asked you to? Dogo anywhere they asked you to go.
Yes, I did. That's goodenough for us, and it works,
and it works generally. Yeah,one soldier one time. We need a
little help from Congressman Chris Gibson,but we got him on there, all
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right, Frank. We'll talk toyou real soon, all right, buddy,
Very good, Thank you. Ihope you enjoyed this week's episode of
clear View Hudson Valley, and Iwant to remind you that all the episodes
are available on a clear View HudsonValley podcast available at iHeartRadio dot com.
I'm Uncle Mike, and if Idon't see you out and about, I'll
catch you on the radio. Havea great week, everyone,