Autumn Rose Care Tips & Tricks - Garden America Podcasts & Radio Show [9.6.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So here we go, John, that was a good idea.
Welcome to guard in America, Welcome to whatever mess we
have going on in here with wires every place.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
And I was my daughter's visiting from out of town,
my daughter and the grandkids, and we went to the
beach and Carlsbad stayed at the Tamarack Beach Resort for
a few days. And while the weather was one hundred
degrees in Fallbrook, it was in the eighties on the coast,
eighties and humid, which is about as high as I

(00:31):
think you guys get tiger right, Did you hit ninety
at all?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I don't think we did. You know, it definitely felt
like it sometimes.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Because of the humidity, but I don't think we actually did.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's cooling off though today's like supposed to be even cooler.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
We're going to hit ninety in Fallbrook again.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Eighty one where we are.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, So my daughter came out for a visit. Because
everybody's birthdays around the same time. So we were celebrating
my daughter, Gina's birthday, which is on the twelfth of September,
which is let's stay the ninth.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Or eighth eighths, No, what is today? Because my Mom's
is on the ninth.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Let me see here. Oh six, Oh, it's only the six.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You know what. I like John's idea, we're going to
back up here. This is gonna be for Daniel, so
we're gonna start the show.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I think it's a great idea since we haven't said so,
here we go three two one. People love this, you know,
because it's a peak behind the scenes. Yeah, welcome to
guard in America. Your boys are back. We're in studio.
I'm Brian Main, John Begnasco Tiger Pelafox here. Uh, thank
you for joining us. We hope you had a good week.
We enter the weekend very positively, lots of optimism. Whatever
you heard before the other start of the show is

(01:45):
a moot point because we just started fresh John. Everything
from here forward is the real reality, not what you
thought you heard before.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
As opposed to the fake reality.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yes, yeah, yes, we got.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Into that fake news thing for a while and it
just wasn't working.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
It didn't work for us.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
No, no, the gardening. You need real news. And by
the way, today's show is going to be geared towards Roses.
Oh right, I figured let's talk about something I know
there you go at least we can get that taken
care of. And it's it's important to talk about roses
because this is the time of year where certain things
should be happened.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
That was in the newsletter. Yeah, you talked about this
is one last push, right John. If you're in California, yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Know, if you're in colder areas of the country, you
don't have to do anything. Yeah, if you're in Michigan,
just let let them go, don't cut them back. You
never want to cut back roses and cold climates going
into winter because your pruning is in the spring and
it's cutting out dead wood, you know, from everything that freezes.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I told John a couple of weeks ago, after seeing
his rose that I cut my way back to sticks
they look like. Yeah, I had never done that before.
I've always been kind of a more a sissy pruner. Yeah,
and just a little bit here, a little bit there,
But I cut them way back. This has been now
three weeks already, leaves they look like they're brand new roses.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Anybody that's that's afraid to do that, do it make
the plunge cut them back.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm asking Tiger to give me comments.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, I don't know what's going on. I think it's
just a new way. It's up here for the comments. John,
you got to call I figure out. But Carla wrote
that she loved Tanya's lithops from the newsletter.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
You know, Tanya sent me some a couple emails, you know,
one with the picture of her lithops, but one with
a little care on how to grow lithops, which I
thought was kind of funny because I wrote two books
on cactus and succulents, and I have our listeners instructing

(03:56):
me how to grow lithops, and I admit I've never
been able to grow them. But the one that I
have in the ground I think will bloom this week.
So I never had that much trouble with lithops growing
in I would say, in pots, because you can just

(04:17):
stop watering them during the times when you're not supposed to.
But in the ground that's been a problem for me
if they get too much water at the wrong time.
But as time you pointed out, this is the time
of year where they are going into their growing season
and that's when they can use some water. But anyway,
I'm kind of excited about the ones that I have
and they're going to be opening. But back to roses.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, I'm excited. And I never set you pictures when
I cut them back, I say, Sean.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Done it before and after. Yeah, but if you're in
California and you're cutting back now, in six weeks, your
blooms will be almost as nice as they were in spring.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I'm looking for I'm halfway there.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
You know, we usually use six weeks as a general
rule of thumb, but in the fall it sometimes takes
a little longer because the days are getting shorter. I
think it used to be. Was it last month? Was
eight o'clock before the sunset? Now it's yeah, setting at seven.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Thank You just have to touch the screen and then
they'll pop up. Carla has a couple questions that she's
queuing up for you regarding roses right now.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, let's hit Carla.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Let's don't hit Carla. She's sign a good girl.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Hey, figuratively speaking.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
The one thing I wanted to point out Lisa in reading.
I wanted to know she got one of those propagating
boxes and she put all her cuttings in it and
they all died. So she wanted to know how what
she did wrong? And first of all, I want to
point out to all our listeners. If you go to

(05:57):
to YouTube and just put how to row rose cuttings,
you'll come up with quite a few videos and video.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, picked the one you want, and the one you.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Won't be John's because.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Because it's not fair. But the one you want is
one that shows you how to do it with the
cutout soda bottle where you cut off the bottom and
that right, Well, used to use that for years, right, yeah,
So on these propagating boxes, you you do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
The humidity dome, right, that's what you're trying to achieve
with it, Like that one that you purchase down Amazon,
and it's got the heat pad and the ventilation and everything.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
How is that working out?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
By the way, well that's what Lisa has. And I
just took a sip of tea and drank it down
the wrong one. Well, but Lisa said she's not using
the heating heating pad because she thinks it's warm enough
degrees you need the excuse me, you need the heating pad.
So Lisa turned that out and turn it to medium.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
So even she hasn't even even if it's ninety degrees outside, right, now.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Right, because the soil's not ninety degrees.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Okay, So no, no, that's a great note.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I would have never thought to use the heating pad
in the summertime when I was propagating plants, because I
thought it would be warm enough. But you're saying that
that heating pad warms up the soil, right, And that's
the critical part of the warm not not the outside air,
not the you know, sun on it, but that soil
needs to get up to that temperature.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Then the other important thing is what type of cutting
to take, right, And I find shoulder cuts are the
most effective. And a shoulder cut is if you look
at first of all, it has to be a rose
that just bloomed, and the bloom is faded, and you
cut off the bloom and then take the cutting from

(07:52):
where it attaches to the stem.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
So way up high right there the shoulder sort of speak.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Right where it's attached in that area that you cut
off is the area where roots are usually going to
form naturally. And if you try to cut it in
an angle, that's good. And I think Lisa said she
used one bud per plant. Well, you've got to have
a six to an eight inch cut cut. Yeah, small

(08:17):
ones not going to work, So do that. Go to
YouTube and and everything else Lisa was doing was fine,
so you should get much better results. And it's important
not to keep the soil too wet, just evenly moist.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I always describe the correct moisture for soil is damp,
like a wrung out sponge. So if you were to
pick up a handful of that soil and squeeze it,
no water would come out, but it would still fiels
moist right right, But it's not dry and powdery.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
You know that's the ideal situation.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Now, let me ask you because you mentioned the flowers
need to be fading, John, so you know this can't
be a butted up cutting.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You cannot be a fresh bud that has an open door,
a flower that's still open.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Now, what about on the opposite end, like it's already
a hip?

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Is that too late?

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Now?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Is it kind of like you got to be right.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Or it'll still work, but you're getting to where it
might be too late.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
So the other thing is that spring and fall are
the best times to take to write roses, so this
is a good time to do it.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I have a rose question for you too, John, I
don't know how you feel about this, and other people
that are rose growers out there listening, let me know
what you think about this right now. But you know,
you would go to some people's homes with their roses
and they were, you know, just absolutely gorgeous. I think
I told you, you know, some months ago, John, I

(09:48):
went to this home in Temecula and they had roses
and they were just everything looked perfect, you know, no
problems whatsoever on any of these roses that I figured
they've got to be using something like the Beyer you
know all in one or the Bayer three and one
that was protecting them against bugs and disease, and they
were fertilizing and all that stuff, which which was is

(10:11):
a great product, you know, if it's a really no nonsense.
You you know, you treat your roses with one granular
product and you don't have to worry about them. And
we've talked about how you know, you don't have a
lot of bugs or problems and your roses and you
don't do anything. But this is just something for people
to make it easy. But doing away with a midaclopri
now in California, you know where now they can't put that.

(10:33):
They put in a new chemical. I saw it on
the shelves again this week, so they saw it. I
saw the bear or advanced is it nowance advanced or something?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
And I okay, I think so so.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
As the same you know label so to speak, that
the three and one and the all in one, but
the chemical makeup was different. And I don't remember what
it is off the top of my head, and I
don't have my phone in here to look it up.
But they switched the chemical and I'm wondering, you know,
I mean, the rose growers out there, I'm sure those
systemic treatments were probably just part of their program every

(11:11):
year you did. What do you think did a lot
of people use that or is it going to be
a thing that's missed.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
If you only had a few rose bushes. I think
it was one of the safest chemicals to use for
the environment because you weren't spraying everything in the air.
You were putting it in the soil and the only
thing that would the only insects that would kill would
be insects that were chewing or sucking on the rose bush.

(11:39):
But you know now now who knows?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, and the new chemical that they put in there
could be like you're saying, like worse for you know
what it is. I mean, who was it that we
were talking to about Andy from Fertilum about the glycophate,
and they take away the glycopate, but they replaced it
with a product that's actually, you know, actually worse.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
They take our first break to keep us on time.
BIS Talk Radio. Welcome, Thank you for joining us. Those
that are watching the weird video on Facebook Live. I
say weird because look at look at who's on the
look look at you guys. Anyway, we're going to take
a break on Brian Maine, John Bag, Nascar Taget, Pela Fox,
this is Garden America. Back after these messages. Okay, right
back after that break on the BIS Talk Radio. Very

(12:23):
quick on Facebook Live. Just one camera for those that
are watching Facebook Live. Kind of a weird long side
shot of John and Tiger.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Weird long side shot.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Weird long side shot, good description for radio. Weird long
weird long side shot. So you had mentioned just a
change in products. Well, we talked about this a few
weeks ago and I asked what I thought was a
very basic question, was these people making these decisions to
take away something to discontinue these people, these people exactly.

(12:57):
So where are they getting their advice from. You would
think experts in the industry that would say, actually, it's
it is safe, or perhaps if you want to change
your chemical, go to this chemical. How are they making
those decisions.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
From the pressure they get from environmental activists.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Which makes no sense, because that's fine, give us all
the pressure you want, but at the same time, let
me do some research and find out what is safe
and what isn't sane.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, and they've pulled products off the shelf that we
know are not safe to use.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
But then they replaced it with this new chemical you
talked about.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
But no, but I'm saying, like you know, no, there's
products that we used to use that definitely were not
good to use, which is fine when that happens.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, you still use agent orange John on your property?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, yeah, because they have a lot left over. It
can't Pendleton, Sure, it's so close.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, and it's But I'm also interested to know, you know,
because we have listeners from all over the country.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Right and all over the world, all over the world, and.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Just because something's not available to us doesn't mean it's
not available to them, and.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
There's all kinds of products. I had this friend that had.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
A rattle snake problem at their house. I used to
live in East County, San Diego, and they had a
rattlesnake problem at their house. And they were all kinds
of snake repellents.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Out there right right.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
And you know, obviously California has its rules about putting
what they can put in there. But then we had
this other friend that lived in Arizona that lived and
died by this like snake repellent that they had, and
but we couldn't get it here in California. So my
my friends in California would get my friend in Arizona.
Whenever they would visit, they'd bring out these these repellents.

(14:41):
But you know, sometimes there's products that are found elsewhere.
And so what I'm getting is, yeah, is I bet
you there's people out there that you know, have their
products that they buy in their hometowns or their states
that they love to use, whether it's for aphids or
for snakes or for gophers or all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I mean, we used we used to. I don't think
it's available anymore.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
But you know, the gopher bait with strychnine, right, like,
that was an option for us for a while there,
and I don't think it is anymore, but I'm sure
there's a lot of states that still allow some because
there's some big pest problems wherever you go.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh yeah, I don't know if you carried it, but
most nurseries and X supplies had the Will Cooke ground
squirrel bait. Yeah, and that was what a year ago
last January was discontinued. Discontinued, Yeah, and you can't get
it anymore and it was very effective. Well you know
now ground squirrels are taken over again.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, And I mean not just stray too much from
your topic of roses, John, but you know that's always
been the that's always been the picture on the package,
you know, for plants, you know, because roses is the
number one thing, roses, tomatoes.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
You're going to sell something for gardening.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Put a picture of a rose or put a picture
of a tomato on there, and people are gonna say, oh,
I need this for my roses or or for my tomatoes.
So you know, through the years, there's been a lot
of products that you know, people have been specifically catered
towards for roses and rosarians have their have their thing.
You know, you talk about the was it the grow

(16:23):
power product or grow more product that only the San
Diego Rose Society gets made for them like once a year.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Oh yeah, I think it's grow more.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Grow More.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, you know, and you guys love that and you
guys buy a palette of it once a year.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
And no, it's the I think it's the best for
lights around the market.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, that's g R O. Isn't it just g R
O R W Y grow power?

Speaker 3 (16:47):
But the problem is like, yeah, we can't like eat,
I can't even get it.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
It is a W for grow more?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Right is it? Grow power is just g R O
and then grow more is g r O W. So yeah,
I don't know, not sure.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I'm not sure what Tanya was referring to, and maybe
you know, but talking about I'm sorry, I guess it
was Carla. She said, like HB one on one in California?
Can you not get HB one on one here anymore?

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Great question. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I'm Amazon, I'm a little bit removed from the side
of it things now, but I know we have some
on our shelves.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
So hope nobody from the county or city.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well, the ones that you're going to throw away, Yeah,
those are still sitting on the shelf.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
But but I think, I really think that the problem
there is the packaging, right, because they leave HB one
on one is very vague. Right, they don't put a
lot of specifics in their.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Package that it's kind of for extracts.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, California wants you to tell us exactly what's in it,
I think exactly, and exactly what you can use it
for and what does it do? Yes, and if your
package is any kind of like do you think that
I could put a bottle on the shelf and just
say spray?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
You know?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, to be honest, the HB one oh one is
kind of like the old snake call, yes.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
You know, except it worked.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
It does work, It works really well. But I've never
understood it. Yeah, so I just choose.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
It true, like you know, you you're you're right.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Like for those of us that have been involved with
HB one on one for all these years and talk
to talk.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
To what was her name, Oh yeah, we had it
on a time.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Or a few times, I can't remember, but you know,
she's the rep the manufacturer for it.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
All and still don't understand how it works.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well, when you describe it to people, they say, is
it a fertilizer. No, it's more like vitamins. It's more
like taking a vitamin B. It's good for you.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
But see the problem there is they used to sell
vitamin B one, which did absolutely plan. Yeah, well that's
just the analogy I give people that they did sell that,
so people kind of get the same feeling that maybe
HbA one on one it is the same kind of hoax.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, yeah, exactly knows.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Lisa brought up you know, we were talking I guess
was last segment about the routing.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Box, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
The one thing that we neglected to say is that
it does come with lights on the box. The what
are those kind of lights?

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Lights?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
LED? And Lisa wanted to know how long do you
keep those on? And you know what I do on
mine is it's sometimes you can buy it this way,
depending on what system you bought, but if not, just
get a timer and I set it for twelve hours.
So I let it on for twelve hours. I think,
especially because it's LED, you need a little longer time

(19:56):
and and it's not natural lights, so twelve hours and
just have it go on and off and you don't
have to worry about it.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, And so basically you're getting twenty four hours of
potential growth, potential development versus if you don't have a light,
you're really only getting the daylight hours, right.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And if it's indoors like mine's in a garage, Oh yeah, yeah,
so I have it. I think I have it set
for eight tight.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Your garage is nice too, it's very well lagage, that's
of natural light going in there.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Where do you keep the hay bails in the garage?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
No, there are no hay bails, So do you do
you only set it though at night though, because you,
like I say, your roge is very naturally lit, or
do you just have twelve hours no matter what time
it is.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's not on a shelf, so it's not getting good
light direct light.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Okay, I'd love to continue this garage talk. We have
to take a break, all right, Talk Radio. We can
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Brian Maine, John Begnascar, Tacket, Pello, Fox Break Time, Pace
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Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yes, indeed, some squirrels, some chemicals in your storage.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
We are back from the break, Carol, you're wondering. You're
absolutely right on that one.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
It is GUARD in America. Thank you for joining us here.
We go up. Been talking about roses and chemicals and
fertilizers and HB one oh one things taking off the shelf.
And yeah, it does vary state by state. Yeah, and
it's it's interesting how it's not like there's not one
consensus that, yes, it's been proven that this is this
is bad, take it off across the board. Yeah, it's

(21:33):
it's state by state.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Well, I mean, and that it does make sense to
some degree because you know, we have different problems than
other places do. So there are some things that we
need to use more or less than other places. I mean,
you know, was it could could sue. That's the rampant

(21:54):
weed kind of through the south cutsu you know, rampant
weed through those south kind of it. They and you know,
i mean, I'm sure that they need to use GLA
to control that. And because it's it's literally taking over
eight you know, forests, you know, and that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
So what's what's the eagles right?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, My uneducated opinion is that it's one of the
safest chemicals in the world.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Yeah, yeah, you know, but but.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's been sprayed by tons.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, all over yeah, and all over our food. Yeah, forever, forever, forever.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Bag. You can't get up in front of somebody.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Eight John, So I got another rose question you talking about.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Your Hey, quickly a little let me just answer Lisa.
She said hers did come with a timer and she
can't figure out how.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
To use Just ask John. He's an expptist with you.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I want to admit the same thing. I couldn't figure
out how to use it. So I got, you know,
the kind of use for Christmas trig Yes, that you
just go to the to ace and you can buy one, yeah,
and just plug it in that way.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
John, John's timer is on his phone and he sets
an alarm and he's it goes off and he goes out.
He turns it on and then he goes off and
he turns it off.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
And dealing with timers. So there's the digital timer which
actually has and then there's a little.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Dial that's the one he's talking.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Okay, So I cannot figure out that dial Dana loves it.
I said, well, just get the digital one right there
gives you the time and then tells you how much
time to turn it on or off. No, I like
the digital, and not the digital but the another one.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
You're talking about. But that one's simple to use. Once
you figure out that you have to take the little
dial and turn into the current time. Okay, And once
you do that, then if you wanted to one to
either push push those little buttons down to where you
want it to stop or pull him up.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
And you think that's easier than your your sprink sprink sprink.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Sprinkler, sprinkler?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
What's a sprinkler?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Wow, I don't know, I'll figure that out. You think
that's easier than sprinklers? That that that you haven't figured
out yet? The timing on that.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Oh, I still know how to do this, but I
do know how to turn him on and off manually.
Tiger's gonna teach me how.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
To But it's simple, right, you just know it's nuts.
There's a clock, right, and then there's a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Of buttons that do a lot of jobs. Let's say
that right, like like the same button you can activate
something or the same button also adds time, or the
same button changes to a different mode. So so it's
kind of like English where you have one word that
means four different things, and you've got to figure out

(24:38):
which thing are they trying to determine. Here one word
that sounds the same but spelled four different ways.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Okay, here's a problem I see already with that. So
you could teach John how to do it. You go, oh, okay,
I've got it. Now, he doesn't have to do it
for the next several months, that is, and then you forget.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
And it's so funny you mentioned that, Brian, because I
had the same conversation with the customer of mine this week,
and so I have a rose question for John again.
But regarding as irrigation thing, I was at someone's house
and I was programming their clock for them because they
had problems with it. And so I go out there
and this is a very common thing, and I'll see

(25:20):
if I can explain it well to people listening.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
But when you have irrigation controllers, they usually.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Have multiple programs, and you have multiple programs to change
the frequency of water days. So, for instance, like a
lawn in a hot summer time, you might want to
water it three to four times a week, so you
need to have it on its own program.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
So you can have it activated three to four times
a week.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
How long you wanted to go.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah, and that involves the station time. Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
But then at the same time, you might have plants
and they only need water once a week, so you
can't have them on the same program because you got
one activating four times a week and you only want once,
you separate them out on different programs.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
So that's the programs. Okay. Then you have start times.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
So the reason why you might have multiple start times
is the biggest reason is you have a sloped area
and if you run your system for what it needs,
maybe twenty minutes, you might have runoff, meaning after five
or six minutes of the system running, water just starts
running down the hill.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Well, you can have multiple start times. So what you
do is you run.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
It for five minutes, have it turned off, run it
again in an hour for five minutes, have it for
turn off, run it again in another hour for five minutes,
have it turned off. So you're getting twenty minutes of watering,
but it's staying there.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
So that's why you have.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Multiple start times, and then you have your run time
which is the individual zones, which you know five ten
minutes an.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Hour if you have a drip or something like that.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
So people all get in there and then they start
programming it all and they put in multiple start times times,
they put in multiple programs and.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Next thing you know, your WAT is getting watered.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Seven days a week, three times a day for thirty
minutes and you can't figure out what And.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Then you have the changing of the season summer to
winter where you don't want the same times or the
same you know duration.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
But but but then, like what you hinted on, the
biggest problem is is I do this every day? Yeah,
I go to someone's home almost every day and adjust
their irrigation controller.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Where like you say, like.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
John, you the normal homeowner, they're really only touching it
maybe once a month or once every three months. If that,
you forget and you forget what you did last time
for you had to do it, and it's become.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
You need you need to to take a video like
like if yourself explaining it to somebody, put it on
your phone to you have to do it. You can
just go down there and do it. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
I get it, So John, I rose.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Question the time out is for me? Is Tiger's explanation.
I just zoned out. I don't even know what he
was talking about.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I mean I get the concept because Tiger's boring is
because my mind, no, but it can't comprehend them.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
But I get the concept. But it's all these because
you have not everything, because you're sharing. This button shares
and does a lot of things. Yes, it doesn't just
do one thing exactly. It's not like on and off no,
or you can turn it on and off, but you
can also set it for five minutes too. You can
set it for a slope and go five minutes, ten minutes,
fifteen minutes and pretty soon like.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Wait what what?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Because it's so multifaceted, I mean, can you can you simplify?
Can you dumb it down?

Speaker 4 (28:37):
You can?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Like John doesn't. Does John need all that?

Speaker 4 (28:42):
No?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
But he needs to know that because when he's adjusting,
he needs to know the mistakes he's making. Okay, Meaning
like I said, some people go in there and they go, oh,
I should put it in these four start times. You
can have four zones like no, no, no, no, you need
one start time because it doesn't it doesn't start for
every zone. It just is it's going to start on
zone one and then go to the next one, then

(29:04):
go to the next one automatically. And people don't know that.
They think they have to put in a start time
for every zone and they don't realize they're running their
system four times.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
The other thing I'm thinking of is do you need
to change systems on a regular basis, like the actual clock, No,
the the types of sprinklers, like you know in the
back we we had those sprinklers and we pulled them
all out and we put in neaphim. Yeah, because the
other ones won't work, weren't weren't working. And now I'm

(29:38):
thinking the area in the front of the house where
we have that system. There's landscape there now and nothing's
getting watered except the very.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Front because it's blocking.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
It's blocked.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Yeah, you need to adjust right based on so.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Too.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Maybe the only issue that I have with the netifim
is it makes NETAM makes it.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Very difficult to play plant new flowers annuals, you know,
small perennials, because you know, with a sprinkler system, you
run it for seven or eight minutes and it water
is pretty good. Right Where with NetFM, if you're not
planting an annual or perennial right next to the line,
then it doesn't get water and you have to get

(30:19):
out there in hand water a lot until until it
gets established.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
So but with the other system you get no water,
right yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Well, or you move a sprinkler, you know what I mean,
Like sometimes add sprinklers to the back to the back.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, it just depends. So it just depends on what
you want to do.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
But you do need to, like you're saying, like as
beds mature, as beds grow, things get blocked.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
You know, Well where we put the netfim in the
back with the roses that they're doing spectacular.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
They look great and I think it was a great spot.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
It was a small bed, right, you know, all you
really have is roses there, so you just soak that bed. Yeah.
The the rose question I had for you, John was
we got we.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Got about thirty seconds.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Okay, we'll lead it and then we'll go to the break.
You got your starter.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
We also you've also started roses from seed before. Are
you the kind of person that's just gonna scatter those
seeds into that starter bed and then as they grow
you'll divide them and pull them out and separate them
into individual plants.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Or are you the person that's going.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
To grow them an individual rows so that way later
on they are individual plans.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Spread your seed, go forth and multiply. We're gonna take
a break, final break for I should say, the final
segment for Bistalk Radio hour one and for the rest
of us on Facebook Live. We'll just keep on cruising along.
This is guarding America back after these BIS talk radio messages. Okay,
we are back, as I mentioned, going into the break,
final segment for hour one on BIZ Talk Radio Facebook Live.

(31:48):
Thank you for the questions the comments as we just
roll along here talking about lots of sprinkler systems roses
spreading your seeds, John.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
What what would you do if you got a flat, okay,
and you're gonna plant seeds in there, no matter what
they are. Are you just going to scatter those seeds
in that flat and then as they grow you'll take
out the plant the viable plants and then maybe replant
them or you know, transplant them, or you kind of

(32:19):
person that would take that flat and you're going to
put your seeds in individual like rows, spaced out evenly,
so that way when they did grow, they would already
be individual plants.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah. Probably, I think ran would be the kind of yeah, yeah,
I would be what are you John?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, it depends that if it's from breeding, you want
to know what that cross was, so you don't want
to mix it with other things. Yes, So I usually
put them in individual liner pots, right with the tag,
and I put the cross in that pot, so whatever germinates,
I know what it is. But then I let them
grow in there for until they develop maybe maybe three

(33:08):
four inches, and then I pull them out and separate
them and put them in because.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
You do grow multiple ones in liner.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Pots, right, but you don't know what's going to germany.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Right, So you in that liner pot, you got this.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Like eighty percent termination. Others would get five, some none.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
And at what at what plant? This this is roses?
At what plant heights? Do you begin to.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Separate them out about three inches about three inches?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
And do you throw away the the runts or do
you keep them and try to get them together?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, I want to see what they're gonna But the
way they do it commercially is they'll have a they
do it in greenhouses, of course, but they'll have long
beds and they scatter the seeds in a row and
or an area with a label at the end, and
they let them come up and actually bloom there and

(34:02):
then they go through and they pull them out.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
So do they use a flat or the you know
what were you know when we were at plug Connection
and we were doing the tomatoes and stuff, they would
have them in little cells kind of a thing.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Is that the way?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
No, No, the like Jackson and Perkins used to or
Weeks would have tables that were seed starter soil mostly vermiculate, okay,
and they would plant the seeds in that and let
them just so any seed that Germanisan seeds that Jackson

(34:38):
and Perkins used to do when Keith Zeri was there,
they would make. They would be surprised if they got
five plants that they kept out of three hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Now, when we were in France at that meon that
were they developed in groups, they took us out in
the back and there was these huge piles.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Those were roses that made it through that that stage
where they eliminated all the bad ones. Those were the
ones they thought had merit and and all those huge
piles we saw were you know the second calling that like,
you know, we thought it would be good, but it's not.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
It's not in huge I mean you think what a waste, right, yes,
you think nothing is good in there.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
It's that's funny good enough for me.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
It's funny, exactly funny How we get with that with life.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Like we've talked about this with you before, Brian, that
you're a uh, you know, salvage gardener where if you
see a plant just laying by the trash can and
you'll grab it and then bring it back to health
and keep it on your patio. And you know, there
are so many, you know, plants out there that just

(35:49):
go to waste, and we always feel bad, you know,
for those plants.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
But at the same time, it's just like, oh, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Part of it. Yeah, I found I found a succulent
just randomly on the grounds, but just.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
It's just like a cutting that was like fell off
of someone's.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
So I took it and uh kind of you know,
haphazardly stuck it in a pot.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
You're so lucky you don't have like ten acres no,
I know, right, if you if you had a lot
of property.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I'd be going, That's all I would do.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, all I would do.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
I'd be out there all the time. Yeah, and yeah,
it's uh because what I do have is very crowded.
But I took this succulent. I kind of stuck it
into a pot till I can decide what to do
with it. And Dan, well, Dana says, well, it's gonna
die go. No, it's okay for a while, you can.
I can put it on the ground, you know, for
a month, and it would be okay. I just don't
know what to do with it. Maybe I will throw

(36:39):
it away, But it's fine. It's green, it's it's very viable.
I can't stand and sit, you know. It's like tossing
out a I don't know, No, I mean a living creature. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah, but yeah, you're you're lucky you don't have a
lot of property, because I think that, yeah, you would, uh.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Every every plant on your property would be salvageable to
you or maybe or maybe you would learn to let go.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I think you have to learn, yeah, because look.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
At John, like he salvages everything too. Like he's saying
like he wants to see what the rose is. But
you also are okay with the roses dying every once
in a while, you.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Know you You're okay. You understand used to be.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
A traumatic experience. Really, you know called Susan Ball and
I think I had the last one in the world.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
And well, that's different. That's different.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I was on vacation.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
No, I'm talking about your like, your propagation, your cuttings,
and you're that one didn't make it not.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Oh, I don't have that kind of attitude. But it's like,
oh my gosh, I can't believe I can't root these anymore.
I think we I think a bunch from from Sangerhaus. Yeah,
that I've been trying to get to root and I can't.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I think a lot of gardeners take it personally. You
know you're responsible for that plant done.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, well you like the little prince.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Like, well, yes, it was under my care. But I
did everything I was supposed to do. I really had
no control over it, didn't you. Well, I got that's
all defense restaurant her Wait.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Wait wait, no, I tried.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yes, you can order trees right, yes, can you order
trees for customers?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Can you get Lila in Poway a brachia kite and
disc color. Was that the one we were asking about
last Yeah, I thought that I had seen it at
at Green Thumb Nursery, right, I think we mentioned that, Yeah,
and Lilah went and checked. And so she didn't come
out and say, John, you lied, you had no idea

(38:44):
what you were talking about. But she said that they
didn't have one.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Okay, So I can't access my phone right now, Lilah
because it's holding us.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Up part of the baleen wire. That's wait.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Send me an email and when I'm back in on Monday,
I will look into it for her because I'll be
back out at her house I think in another week
or so.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
So yeah, all right, it is break time for BIS
Talk Radio because top of the hour news is coming in.
For those fine listeners on bist Talk Radio Facebook Live,
we are coming back sooner than later, so do stay
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Nasco taking Pella Fox. Thank you for tuning in to
Garden America and again after the top of the hour
for Bistalk Radio, we come right back. Stay with us.

(39:27):
All righty, welcome back to the show. If you are
a BIS Talk Radio listener. This is the very beginning
of our number two. At about six minutes after the
hour Facebook Live, people questioning the camera angle it is
because of the way we're set up this morning. We
just have the one camera which is being which is
able to work off the Wi Fi here in the studio,

(39:49):
and we just had to decide where we were going
to point it. Yeah. Now I was going to point it.
I wanted to point it out to the ceiling at
the roof, at the roof and the carpet, and you said,
now let's put it on John and myself. Yeah, so
that's why it's there. Now. I didn't realize a lot
of people, a lot of people who listen to us
on Facebook watch it, don't watch it, they just listen,
but apparently people like to watch.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Yeah, we got to do more visual. Yes, visual shows.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
The you know, I'm having trouble on my phone where
I usually followed the comments. Yeah, and uh, Carlos says, well,
I please answer Leonora's rose questions find it and yeah,
I can't find Leonor's rose question.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
So Tiger's going to do that right now.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
So you tell me how you, Brian, how you had
all you cut your roses back three weeks.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Ago, three weeks ago, the week after, the week following,
are remote at your house?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Okay? And you said they all have great leaves and
they look like spring. But do you have any flower
buds yet? Or just the leaves.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I'm going to take a closer look. The leaves are
the obvious, the red leaves, the early young red leaves.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
You still have about probably three more weeks before you
get flowers.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
I would say I might have the beginnings. I'll go
look at all of them. But yeah, that was quite
a task to undertastes.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Do you have now?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Fifteen? Wow? Yeah, one, two, three, four, five, six seen?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, fifteen roses in a condo full of trees and fountains, Well.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
I've got I've got most of them up lining the sidewalk,
which is not really it's my property, but it's not.
It's still considered hoa. But hey, what the heck? It
looks nice. I'll show you. I'll I should take a
video and show you what I've done. But everything's doing well.
What's the last plant that I had that died?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
The one that I gave you that the rad eight.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yes, well that had barely got started. That poor thing
wandering jew.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I told you, I maybe it just wandered away.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
The the.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
What was I going to say? And it took forty
days for that to happen?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Never mind, No, it was it took four days. I
did start you a new one, and I checked it
yesterday and the roots were just starting to come out
of the pot.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
So I will, I'm going to put it someplace else.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I'll bring it to you next week.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm not gonna put it where I
put it the other one.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
You know, my wife was thoroughly disgusted yesterday because I
don't know if you remember, but we have a table
on our patio. Then in the corner there's two there's
two palm trees in a pot.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I know the palms. Yes, they're very big palms. It
looked very nice.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, well, yesterday I went and watered that because it
looked like the impatients in there were drooping with all
the heat. And thought, I thought I heard something Russell,
and I put more water and a rat ran out
of it. Oh no, my wife was so discussed.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Was she right there?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
But of course I had to tell her about it.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Here's a difference between Shannon and Dana. Danny would say, well,
where it go, I can probably feed it.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Oh goodness, no way, I couldn't get it. Yeah, I
get him.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Brian, you want my phone or.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Can you pull open the comments over there and see
if you can find.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
See if you can find roses? And then someone else
had a question on grow power.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
And well Brian's doing that. We'll go with the quote
of the week.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Quote of the week is by may Sartin, who is
a I think around the turn of the last century
was I'm trying to you know, I might be misremembering this,
but I think she lived in like the Bahamas or
Bermuda or one of those islands, and she was a

(43:55):
gardener and a writer, and I think she wrote some
poet poetry. But anyway, she said that a garden is
always a series of losses set against a few triumphs,
just like life itself.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Very true and you know, embrace the triumphs, right because
you know, because there's so few of them.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Exactly did you find him?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Okay? I think yeah, And I guess there might be
several that were that we didn't address, But yeah, think
real quick.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
The problem is is John, the way that our system
is set up right now and the way that John
can see comments, it's not like what we used to
be able to do.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
So we'll rely on you.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
So this is Leonora that they.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
She said, she asked, she just posted again she wanted
to know for two rose plants that are kind that
kind will recover. Yeah, and she said they look brown
and dry from that description, I would say no, but
you know, it depends too where they grafted, where they're

(45:00):
not grafted. If they were not grafted, even if the
top is dead, sometimes if the roots are still alive,
it'll send up new sprouts. So if they're in an
area that doesn't hurt, you know, just leave it. If
they're in containers, keep them watered. Yeah, but uh, I
would say that ninety five percent of the time one

(45:23):
I try to bring one back that that it's dead.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
And and a lot of people make the mistake. They
begin to overwater it right like they flood it.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Yea, and that is also you know something you know
again we just emphasize the idea of keeping it damp
but not wet, because you know, then you know this
plant that is dried out. Now you flood it now
it's feeling like it's underwater. It's just going to stress
it out and it's going to make it worse.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Are you John, I guess you can see the comments
and questions.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Now, Will Rochelle had a question.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Yeah, well did you see it? The grow power question.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Question is was where could she get it?

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I'll believe, but the one that we were talking about, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
We were talking about grow More, grow More, grow Power.
I have no idea, but I think that do you
guys carry grow Power? I know Walter Anderson's does.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
I don't think we do now, but I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Okay, well, Walter Anderson's carries grow power if they were
the big grow power sellers in San Diego, so you
could check with them. But if it's grow More Rochelle
and I think the product, do you remember tigers are
called Biostart.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
I think that's what it was, or the bio something.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, But anyway, that comes in forty pound bags. So
you could get one bag and it would probably feed
your plants for.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
The whole year, but that one you had to order
through the roads.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Well that's what I was going to mention, is that
if you join the San Diego Rose Society. They take orders,
uh starting in December, I think, and then they it's
ready for pick up in January. So uh, they allow
their members to go ahead in order. Yeah, so I
would do that.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Okay, okay, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Are you going to join?

Speaker 1 (47:16):
You do what you want to do?

Speaker 4 (47:19):
You can?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
You can?

Speaker 4 (47:20):
Yeah, doesn't mean everybody has to.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
But at least you see the questions now right where
we well there.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Doesn't see him. They reposted him his don't stay up like.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yours on my phone. They wouldn't stay up either.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
No, because it's the way that we're doing that live.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
And also John looks at it from Facebook, where I
look at it from the Facebook Business Suite, which shows
a different view.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
And since since my phone is over there, I can't
do that.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
And a quick apology to anyone listening on Biss talk
radio because you're you're thinking, you know who cares?

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Yeah, exactly, I hear you, guys.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Just especially you guys. Just fine.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
I'm just so disappointed with Brian's description radio descriptions.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Carla wants to know how close to the to the
main stem of a plant below a bud union should
she cut off a rootstock cane, and if it's possible
to pull it off, rip it off. That's the best

(48:28):
way to ensure that it doesn't sprout again. But otherwise
get as close as possible, because if you leave even
a half inch nub, there's dormant buds in there and
it'll just resprout again.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
And some are worse than others, you know, Fortuniana rootstock,
any buttle just send out this twenty foot plant within
a year, So you've got to keep that cut back.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
And they sold the product called sucker Stopper, which was
a spray that you think when you yeah, you cut
it and then you spray it on there, which would
help control it too.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Except on sucker stop or you don't cut it. Oh,
just as the sucker's coming up, spray it.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
So it's got to have a new amount of foliage. Okay,
it comes up every minute, right, I thought you cut
it and then sprayed it.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
It is break time.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
We can talk stopped every minute, sucker born every.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Minute, and it's kind of playing Pete barn and Okay,
we're gonna take a break. Bistok Radio Facebook live back.
After these messages, it is Garden America. Thank you for
joining us. Okay, just like that. When we are back,
I think we're almost caught up with the questions, the comments.
What are you grinning at?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Well, I'm grinning grinning because it seems like if a
listener doesn't like an answer, they change the information they gave.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Didn't We just talk about that in the nursery the
other day. People come in, Oh, I know I watered
it yesterday. I believe you watered it, but the week
before where you didn't water it.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I like John's story where the guy that was working
for Frank's nursery said, Okay, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
All right, if you admit you didn't water the plant,
I'll get you a new one. Okay.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Water.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Leonard added a little more information. She said that she
still had one green stem. Yeah, if you've got still
got a green stem in a rose, it's way better
than a fifty to fifty chance that I'll come back again.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Water.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Well, you know, Leonora lists in canyon country, and that's
I don't know if it's not as bad as palm Springs,
but it's getting up there right, so.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
It's possible to overwater.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
What you're saying No, No, what I'm saying is that
the roses go into a dormant period in the summer,
and it's not water that they need except to just
you know, make sure they get too dry. It's getting
harder and harder to breathe. They were just too weren't
they Maroon five Wednesday night?

Speaker 4 (51:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah, they're doing a private concert. I was invited. That's
why I brought it up.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
I didn't go at somebody's house.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
No, it was just for John.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
What's called the shell in San Diego.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Do you know that used to be the one on
the water down there in La Vista, right, No, it's
the one in Seaport Village.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Oh see, yes, it used to be Va House concerence
by the bay. Yes. Anyways, it's a grassy area right
now there.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
They were grassy all right?

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah. I saw Santana there years ago and Paul Simon.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Actually, well, if you'd have been there Wednesday, I would
have I would have seen more on five. You know what,
there's a burling leong is breda rose called Maroon eight.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Is that supposed to be a play on Maroon five?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
You know? I said, where did you get the name from?
She says, well, the colors maroon and it has eight petals. Oh,
because that was my first thought. I'll play on maroon five.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Yeah, what happened at six and seven?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I mean, come on, you know, my fourteen year old
granddaughter asked me that exact question yesterday. She's fourteen already, Yeah,
that's her. She just had her birthday.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
That's quick, I know, fourteen.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
But I was trying to get some roses ready that
you know, I told you people are coming over from
the California Rose Society to get roses ready for the auction.
And she picked up one that said maroon eight. She goes,
what happened to six and seven?

Speaker 4 (52:35):
I have the same mind as a fourteen year old girl?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Of course, Well, your daughter's fifty four in trouble Tiger careful, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
She is fourteen, going to be fifteen in October.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yeah, they're fourteen going on sixteen.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
Oh yeah, for sure. It's intense.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
It's intense. She goes to an all girls school, you know,
Tasia does. And you know, I think when I see
kids at a normal public school, it's kind of hard
to see the range sometimes of you know, this type
of kid versus this type of person.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
Right.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Well, but when you're looking at you know, the same
sex and it's all girls, and you see, you know,
girls that dress and act this way, and then you
see girls that dress and act this way, it's easier
to see the spectrum and ands. Yeah, they wear uniforms,
and it's it's crazy to see the difference just within
one community.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
And it's a small community. I mean, you know, the OLP.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
School I think is maybe four hundred No, no, it's
got to be more than that, maybe eight hundred people
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
So it's it's a very.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Small sample compared to some of the other bigger public
schools that have like thousands of kids there.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
But it's it's funny, you know, I don't know for
the next four years.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
I you know, I don't know what to think for
these next four years, what TOSSI is gonna I really.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Feel for you exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
When Gina went to high school her junior year in
New Zealand, she went to a school that was the
only co ed school in Lackland.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Oh really yeah, Oh was she a foreign exchange student obviously? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Oh, she wasn't foreign, she was from here, but she
was foreign to them. Yeah, but they they still wore
uniforms though. Yeah, even though it was co ed, they
all they had uniforms.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Uniform is a great thing, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, I've worked well you you want to know, but
I've wore a uniform in grade school.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
I went to public school. We wore jean shirts whatever
we wanted.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Did you grow up in PD Yes, right, so you're
lucky if you guys had shoes on, like your teacher
was like Brian, put.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
On shoes when you come in.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
The teacher didn't want to shoot. They came into flip
flops and short. True, it was very very laid back,
very casual, and Pacific Beach back in the sixties was
just sleepy. Just nobody even knew it existed.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
If you didn't live here, you were lucky. If you
learned to read.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
I did, okay, okay, I'm up to I'm up to
M and the alphabets.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Now, oh, I know that's not true because you can
say it backwards, say it backwards.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Yeah, and that Speaking of teachers that I told you
the story, we had a in twelfth grade. We had
a teacher who was actually a professor, but he taught
part time with the high school. His name was doctor Stern,
but he was he was one of those guys from
the sixties and he was like, hey man, it's all cool.
I get you, I understand you. You you look forward
to going to his class and he so he said,

(55:50):
I want to teach you how the brain works. So
what we're gonna do is we're gonna learn the alphabet backwards,
and you're going to start with Z and you may
get z y and then stop, and then you're gonna
put a little dot there and you're gonna chart to
see how one day you've you've got five or six
and next day maybe you only get two or three.
But like the stock market, you should see, you know,
a rise in your learning aspect, and after about maybe

(56:11):
a week, you'll you'll get it. And yeah, sure enough,
And to this day I still I never ever forgot it.
And that just really weird, going from from backwards to
to forwards.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Do you know it both ways?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Just as easy think so z y x w v
u k z y x w v u t s.
See this this is the thing that I get.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
That's not really compelling radio. No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Y x w v u t s.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Game where you you would go around, well you usually
play it on a bus and you would have to
think of a rose Friday that began with A. So
the next person had.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
The rose game. Which bus were you riding? Where you
had these people with you? How were.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
We would take? You know, remember we would do I
think that was back with garden Compass we would do.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
We did bunch tours.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah, and you just do go through the whole alphabet,
you know, and as soon as somebody was out, they
if you couldn't think of one, usually it was X
or Q that would stump people.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
There's got to be a rose named Xylophone or Zebra.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Well there's there's Lottie dept Ze perfect. There is one
called Zebra too.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I believe it, just like every time you look at
an alphabet chart for exit xylophone, for zi Zebra.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Yeah, or as they say in South Africa and England zebra.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
I think we mentioned this before, but Tiny Petals Nursery
which was in Chula Vista and de Bennett was the
owner and breeder of a lot of miniature roses. Her
goal was to have created a rose for every letter
of the alphabet.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Oh and she got to X.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
She came up with X Rated X Rated.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
It is break time. Two more segments, by the way,
so do stay with us. Garden in America. BIS Talk
Radio gonna take a break for our friends on bistalk Radio.
Thank you for tuning in. This is Garden America. Alrighty
having fun. Back from the break BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. No,
never wore a school uniform. Friends of ours who went
to a private school, did Lahoya Country Day they wore uniforms. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I went to a parochial school and we through grade school,
we all wore uniforms. I don't think the high school did, though.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
No, did you go to summer camp? I'm not not
summer camp, but but like sixth grade camp during the
school year.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
They didn't have that there, No, did you?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah? It's San Diego, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (58:47):
California?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
California?

Speaker 3 (58:49):
But even now I think it's not even everywhere, does
it Not in California used to be part of California
curriculum exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
I did go to a summer camp one year though.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
That's but that's part of their life there. See where
here we have to remove ourselves from the city.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
And I think in second grade I went to summer
camp too with a buddy of mine, Camp Marshton. Oh yeah,
it still exists, does it, Camp Queen Mecca.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Yeah, that's the sum that's one of the big places
that kids go to. Six Rade camp at.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Okay, back to our rose discussion. Carlo wants to know
how far up the main stem you can put soil
just as far as you want.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah, right, as far as past the leaves.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
What do you what do you mean when.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
You're planning it? I guess she said that hers seem
to get above the quite a bit above the soil line.
Usually in California they keep the bud union above the
soil line so you can see if the plant's suckering.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Yeah, they leave, you know, quite a bit. But in cold.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Climates they buried the bud union because if the plant
freezes to the ground, there's still a chance that'll come up.
The bunch union is exposed.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Then the whole plants and if you want to plant,
you don't want the graph to be below the soil.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
And in cold area it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Is the saying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
In cold areas they do put it below the soil.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
And they multch the whole plant sometimes right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Well, we used to do. We used to have they were.
I don't know what they do now because I haven't
lived in a cold climate since nineteen seventy seven. But
the we used to have rose collars and it would
be like a plasticized cardboard thing that you would hook
around the rose and then you would fill that with

(01:00:38):
like coca bean mulch.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Or cocoa bean molts or straw sometimes just some type
of multi bults.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Yeah, and that just prevents that, like you're saying, it
from freezing in the wintertime.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Yeah, it's usually not the the cold, but it's the
drying winds. So if you've got something around at the
stems usually Now, like I said, that's what they're spring
pruning is is, is just cutting out everything that's dead.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Now, I'm sure there's this has happened because there's so
much prep work, Like we talked about here. You know,
you put down when there's a frost advisory, you know
those plants that you're concerned about, you put a frost
cloth over. We you know, we've said just a light
sheet is enough. You don't need a blanket. Don't do
a plastic bag. Definitely, don't do a black plastic bag.

(01:01:29):
The heat well, like and there's no light, and if
you forget to take it off, it's very bad. Right,
So back there, did they have to be really on
top of removing that winter prep work stuff or was
there like a good window, like a month that you
had that if you left it on too.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Long, did it kill the plant?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Well, you wanted to make sure you did not remove
it too early, because you would usually have like a
January thaw, the temperature would go up to seventy degrees
for a day or two, so you don't want to
remove it during then. But then you don't want to
leave it on so long that the buds begin to
grow under there, and then when you take it off,

(01:02:08):
you've got this really tender growth and then you get
a cold weather. Okay, so I really admire rose growers
in those areas.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
There's a lot of plants.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I don't think I would grow roastes if I lived
in those areas.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
A lot of planning, a lot of prep work, Yeah,
a lot of timing like we talked about, Like you say,
and you could do everything right, Like let's say you
waited until after your normal last frost and you're good
to go, and you go through and then a weird phenomenon.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Weather event happens next thing, you know, Debt. Yeah, it
used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
We've talked about it before, but there were thirteen weeks
in the spring where garden centers were open, yeah, and
they sold plants, and after that you couldn't get outdoor
plants anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
It was just like if you haven't planned by now,
what's the point.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
That's why you guys at Frank's sold other items right, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Yeah, you'all winner, you know was women's bloomers, garments, bloomers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
And uh Frank's Bloomers, Frank's bloom.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
All kinds of irregular clothes, some more parachutes. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Are we good?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Well are I think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
It's you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
I won't ask now off the air. You can explain
to me why that's happening this way now.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
The questions, Yeah, well you know, yeah, yeah I can explain.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
But what I did say is it's because of the
way we're shooting it now, and it's because you're not
opening it under the business suite, like meaning you're opening
it as Facebook as all of our other listeners are
watching right now, where normally when I open it, I
open it under the business suite which is which gives

(01:03:53):
us different view of the comments.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
But it has to do with the way we're shooting.
That's why, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
And there's other people I said, oh, I can't see
all the comments, and you know, and it's only popping
up on the top part of the screen or and
it's because of the way we're shooting the show right now,
is what's creating that problem. You know where Brian is
watching it on a computer, so he has a whole dialogue.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
On the right side, right, because it's on the computer.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Yeah, but if you're.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Watching it on a phone right now, and probably even
a tablet, it's a different view.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
So what do you think next week? Do you do?
You want to give it a shot at your place?

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Yeah, let's do it all right, then go, that'll be
fun guarding America in my house.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Yeah, all right, in the backyard there, yep, right there,
cameras and everything. Yeah. Wow, okay, we're going to give
it a shot. It's not too far from the station.
That's the beauty.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Oh it's close, yeah, exactly right up the road.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Make a left, right road, make a left. Yeah, I'll
get directions again.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
I'll get you all set up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah. So that'll be next week, So that'll be fun.
That'll get people a completely different outlooking view of what
you're doing back there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Yeah, it'll be good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
One thing we haven't talked about on roses yet. If
you're in warm climate, this false great time to plant
new roses.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Yes, and it's great trying to get roses because they're
usually on sale. I mean the ones that you find
right Your selection is limited, but the prices is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
That like buying a barbecue right now, Yeah, same thing.
Hey it was five hundred bucks last week, Yeah, two fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Like buying fruit trees.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Yeah, you know that's what's so funny. But you know,
seasonally what we can do gardening, it's kind of like
those the barbecues you see at home deeple right, they're
on sale now, they've drastically reduced. We're probably gonna have
good weather for a while. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
We're very different than like, you know, the back people there,
like you say, packing up, putting it all the way,
and we're like, no, we still got four months, three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Hundred bucks off that barbecue. I can probably use this
through January.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
And cold climates. You don't want to be planning roses, no,
because they're not going to have time to get established
before winter, and they're just going to freeze. I did
want to make a comment about you know, we recommended
that people go to YouTube and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Look up the rose starting videos.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Right, And you know, sometimes I have to admit I
have an elitist attitude, which yeah, you know, I try
to fight it, but you know, first my first thing
is to criticize. But there's some younger people on there

(01:06:22):
doing videos and it's like, I listen to the video
and the guy who did it, actually he did a
good job explaining how to to go through and take
rose cuttings and root them. And I would say he's
he was probably maybe ten years younger than Tiger, so
young guy, but he did a good job. But as

(01:06:45):
he's going through this greenhouse, he goes, we're going to
propagate roses today, and look at this yellow one. This
is beautiful, and then here's a red one, and then
there's a there's a white one, and it's like, you know,
a rose arian would never say their colors.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
It's like, what's the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Name of it? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Yeah, yeah, what it's like just like a basic yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Then he'll make a comment like, uh, but we won't rop.
We won't propagate any that are copyrighted, of course, Well
you don't copyright rose. You only cop for cop for
copyright books or literature. Roses are tent or trademarked.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Well, here's something else too. Have you ever gone to YouTube?
You just want directions on something, right, it's go, oh good,
this is how you put together this chair. As an example,
it takes him ten minutes to get to the actual
instructions because he's busy trying to be a YouTube star. Hey, Hi,
how you doing. I just came back from the store.
My wife and I going to make dinner, and I
know we got this nice chair. You probably wonder how

(01:07:47):
to put it together. It's like, okay, just get to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
It, go, go go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I just want you to just tell me, just tell
me how to how to do it. And occasionally you'll
find someone who gets to the point. It's two minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Here's how you do it now, now, John, I mean,
can you like take a cutting from a rose and
propagate it and just not sell it? Or is it
completely illegal to take a trademarked rose and reproduce it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
You can.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Reproduce trademark roses all you want. You just can't sell
them as under that name. They could sell them, and
I put, for instance, a lot of people will grow
David Austin roses and they don't have a license from
David Austin to grow it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
So if it's we're going to take a break real quick,
we'll come back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Don't lose take the break.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
You have to remind me when I will trademark roses
growing propagation. One more segment. Do stay with us on
Bistalk Radio, Facebook Live. This is Garden America and we
are back. Hope you had a good break. Thank you
for tuning in those on bis Talk Radio. As we
wrap things up another edition and just prior to the
break here on guard in America, trademarking roses, growing roses
propagating roses, John said, you could grow all you want,

(01:09:03):
you just can't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Well if they're trademarked and you wanted to sell them. Yeah,
And let's take a David Austin rose. Let's say the Squire.
You could not sell it as the Squire, but the
breeder name is all Austin Roses. I have a breeder
name that's a U S something maybe a US squire.

(01:09:27):
You could call it a US squire and sell it
as that, and people could go and look up what
Rose is that and they go, oh, this is is
the square? Yeah, this is what I want. So you
could go ahead and sell it that way.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm not trying to I'm not trying to
cut out what doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
But what you cannot do is a patent did Rose?
Patent did Rose? You own the rights to that, and
no one can take cuttings. And as a matter of fact,
that the patent usually says that as actual reproduction is prohibited,
so that means you're not supposed to root it, you're

(01:10:04):
not supposed to start a new one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Okay, I'm sure everybody abides by that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Well, I was just trying to kind of point out that,
you know, not to scare people, because you know a
lot of people you know, might you know, be worried
about whatever they're doing. But you know, as long as
you're not selling it, if you're just having it for
your your it's still illegal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
But yeah, no, no, no, nobody knows you're breaking.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Well what I'm saying patented patented, it's you're saying it
is illegal, right, But if you're seeing like a trademark
one it is not illegal to progress.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Trademark is just the name. Yeah, it's only the name
that's trademarked, Okay. And the reason people trademark instead of patent,
because patent gives you complete protection, is it's much.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Easier to and cheaper to trade trademark.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
You can go and I've trademarked uh plants myself, and
you can do it through the United States Patent and
Trademark Office online, So once you get used to it,
it's not that difficult to do. But for a patent
you almost need a patent attorney.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Yeah, and you've got.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
To go through and don't those last only so many years?
And then everybody can jump.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
For twenty years on plant patents. Plant patents are different
than regular patents.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
But yeah, I mean, but you know, yeah, if you
were going around and selling them or trying to make
money off of them, it's different. But if you're just
doing it because you want to try it out and
have it at your home, then you know, yeah, nobody's
nobody's coming around you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Well, I think your general attitude is that laws are
made to be broken. If you're not hurting anybody, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
That's that is definitely not howbody.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Yeah, we all know what I do as I travel.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
It's like like speeding on the freeway. Nobody's there, there's
no traffic and it's two o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
It's only wrong if you get caught.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Yeah, oh man, I want to make sure I didn't
miss you addressing Carlo's question. When's the what's the last
Carla question that you addressed? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Carlos said she had one more and she promised it
was the last one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Do you know what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
And I wanted to hold answering it because I'm not
sure I believe that promise. But no, you know, we're
happy to answer questions all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Oh yeah, sure, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
And she has a rose called land Lust.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
Land of Lust, No land Lust, land Lust, yes, land.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Like a nightclub.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
This is a rose, alright, I believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
It's called land Lust, and I think it has another another.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Name, land less like there's no land or land lust
Lust with a tea at the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
End, right, okay, But it has another name also, which
is I'm forgetting. But she says it sends out really
long canes and they're not rootstock, and she wants to
know she.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Can prune them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Off, you know, don't prune them off if it's not rootstock.
Just cut them back, you know, to the rest of
the bush and it'll it'll put out stems.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Is that it will be more of a vining rose.
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Some roses are like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Depending on the climate they're in. I usually call them
semi climbers, and depending on the time of year, they'll
put out long canes like that. But you can cut those,
cut those back. Got It doesn't hurt the plant to
cut it back. Okay, I'm trying to think of what
the name was. I think it was more of a
tropical name.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
What oh the original name for that one?

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Well, I think land Lust is the original name, but
I think it's being sold under something else.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Hawaiian lands Lust.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Hawaiian lands a tropical name.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
Oh pena penia colada let us.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
No land bless is not even in the name.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Oh bummer, I'll is just land or just lust.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
They're confusing me exactly as he's I could see his
mind punched as he's punching on his phone and then
thinking to do something.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
It's kind of like when I'm starting the show and
you guys are talking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
You haven't heard him target for ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
We're trying to read his facial expressions away on the
air as I could. Is there a problem?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
You know it's in I'm on help me find and
it's not in there. Land Blust is, but it doesn't
he doesn't have the other one, the other name of Mmm.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Did you finish watching twilet Zone with your kids?

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Not finished? But we've watched some more. Yeah, it's do
you know do you know where the term jumping the
shark came from?

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yes, it came from Happy Days. It came from Phonzie
when he actually jumped a shark when he was water skiing.
At the end. I think by that time, Ron Howard
had left the show, a lot of people had left,
and it was like it was like, you know what
you should have You should have shopped last season, like
like when when a series goes too long.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yeah, you should have stopped before you jumped the show
jump the shark.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
And so, you know, we watched some more of the
Twilight Zones, and you know, Twilight Zone, I don't think
you ever jumped the shark because it started off.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
Already jumping the shark, you know, meaning like you know,
you know what you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Yeah, so you know, but we've definitely got to a
point where they're like seeing some remakes or some same.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Morals, same themes, Yes, just.

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
Put it in a different way, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
So they get on another planet.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Yeah, so they get kind of we'll start one and
then they're like, I don't want to finish this one
because we already know what's what's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
The Hey, we got we got to wrap up here,
So yeah, this is it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
So next Wait a second, we haven't had the time
where the show close down.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Now we're going to close it down this week?

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Is that possible?

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Yeah? So next week at Tiger's house, look forward to that.
That's gonna be fun. We should have a good hook up.
We'll get there early, we'll set things up. So enjoy
the rest of your weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Have a great week, and thanks for listening.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Appreciate. This is Garden America. I'm Brian Maine, John Begnascar,
Tiget Pela, Fox Biz Talk Radio. Til next week, have
a safe one and we'll do it again next week,
I assume from your backyard, right Tiger. All right, there
you go, Garden America. Take care till next week. From
tiger's house

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