Cultivating Fruits & Vegetables at Home with Ed Laivo - Garden America Radio Show [6.7.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, what do you know, as the old saying goes
of the group, what was at thin Lizzie Brownsville station?
The boys are back in town. Fact check me on that, John,
going back to the seventies.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I was already I already had that in my mind.
We're gonna say that anyway. Hello there, Welcome to Garden America.
We are back in studio, back live Brian Maine, John Begnasco,
Tiger Pelafox. Tiger's very intent. John Stee wants to make
sure that we're on that the audio is working, the
videos working, and after two weeks of a short little layoff,
we are back. You're back from Midas. Oh good to

(00:30):
be back too.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It does you look fantastic when just prior to you
leaving a little peak it because you had a lot
on your mind.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Right, you know what happened in Idaho that I had
forgotten was trying to think now the intense spring period.
You know how I told you when I lived in Detroit,
everything was sold in a thirteen week period. Right in
Idaho we got there, Let's see, that would have been

(00:58):
Memorial weekend, right, yes, and the nurseries were stock to
the gills for Mother's Day and after Mother's Day weekend
half their stock was gone and not replaced.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
How big are these gills that you refer to?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Enough to breathe Underwater's big enough for that? But yeah,
it was neat because my daughter had bought my wife
for Mother's Day some clemitis five as a matter of fact,
and which was interesting to get five clemitsts home.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah. I was gonna say, getting those.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Carry on duffel bag, which I did pack perfectly until
it got to TSA and they had to open it
and unpack it, and I said, you know, they're just plants.
I said, you've got to be really careful. And you
know how fragile clemitist stems are. I mean they just
snapped right. Yeah, So anyway that for the most part

(01:54):
they're still alive.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
You got five roots.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Was it a female TSA agent?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
See I'm thinking they might be a little more gentle
oh flowers.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Of course, of course, I think what happened, I'm not positive,
but it looked to me like when they were opening
to inspect that they knew they broke one, and.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
So they broke them all.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
So they said, we better not try this anymore because
I had a duffel bag Tiger and to get the
clementis in there. They were each one was probably the one.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Are we talking like a four inche a one gallon quartz?
Quartz like a four inch bigger than a four inch?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, a little small excuse me, a little smaller than
a gallon.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So they were all in this stuffel bag and you're
looking at two to three foot stems. It's all kind
of laid in there, and they would have arrived perfectly
had they not opened it.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
But did they open you bag anyway?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Because they were testing for explosives.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Gone through. They just put it through the X ray
and boom it. I'm not boom on plants.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Literally, that's literally that's why they that's why they're checking
the bag, Brin.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I understand, but they have to have some indication that
they think there might be something in there.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, and it's the soil. The soil has ammoniums and
is a fertilizer, which is also what they used to
Timothy McVeigh used to blow up the Oklahoma building. You
had nothing to do with that, did you, No? Okay, no,
nothing at all. So anyway, I was just surprised that

(03:37):
they because living in California now for so many years,
you have big sales weekends and you restocked immediately. But
there they sold half out and no restocking because they're
getting ready for summer.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
You know, such a short weak cold.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
With their climates, they only have so much to do.
It's very intense. Got to get this done, two weeks,
to do that, six weeks Mother's Day, it's gonna get cold,
gonna get hot. And we just kind of like, yeah,
you know, well, I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
To John's answer to like with the Clemitists.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
They can't plant it late, right, but they have to
plant it then because if they plant it late, it'll
it'll die when they plant it. Where us, Oh, if
I don't get it around to planting that today, I'll
do it next month.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
And it's not that big a deal.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I mean, you're talking about my driveway again right where
no answer, just sitting there there for a month.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
And that's the trouble with us.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
And even when it's funny because I have this conversation
with so many people when it's like even when it's
you know, the middle of August, they want to do
they want to a garden, and I'm like, if you
could wait another month or two, it'd probably be nice
and like, nah, we'll just get it done now. I'm like,
all right, yeah, let's let's you know what. You know,

(04:48):
it's shocking to me with all of this though. I
was in Rancho Santa Fe last week. They were completely
re sotting the golf course. Okay, like the entire golf
really up there. I don't know which specific golf course
this is, but it's in the Rancho Santa Fe gated community.
Why why would you resawd in June? And I'm not

(05:11):
talking they're done, like they still have a long ways
to go, so meaning they're going to be resadding this
course all the way.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
You said this was where Santa Fe. Oh now yeah,
well yeah, but I mean you know they're not they're
going to be doing it June.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
It's going to go into July, it might go into September.
To lay down sad at that time of year, it
has got to be such a challenge. But like John said,
it is Rancho Santa Fe, so money's no.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
They can treat their lines as an annual.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Would you rather do that or would you rather Tara
Ruff in August?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh goodness, I was excited because in southern California we
cannot grow peonies right doesn't get cold enough. But I
had sent some to my daughter for I believe her
birthday a couple of years ago, and anyway, she'd put
them in her garden. They were in full bloom. They

(06:05):
were just unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
She's gonna be your your gardener in a different region
for you.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
You're just gonna send her. You're just gonna send her
plants and say, please plant this for me.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Actually, let me know how it's pretty close. That's what
I was doing. She did. I think she sent a
picture in the for the newsletter of the bouquet of
peonies that she had cut. So it was kind of
exciting to.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
See those peenies are so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
They really are. They're spectacular, I assume now I'm glancing.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
We have questions comments. I'm not sure how how serious
some of these are yet, as we are early into
the show, but we do want to get to the
court of the week. We want to talk about our guests.
Do you see anything on the right now we should
address her well.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Just quick, going back after Lisa wanted to our Carla
was asking Lisa how her fire fly petunia was doing
because while we were in Idaho, I showed you guys
a picture and I believe I put it in the
newsletter and Lisa started this way back in January letting
us know about this. And so I saw a display

(07:12):
of firefly petunias It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Which was yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And what I thought was most interesting is because this
bioluminescent gene is now in the paton that petunia, that
if you save the seats from that petunia, you'll have
uh petunias that glow in the dark all the time.
And if you go to Instagram, you see a cute
little cartoon of the firefly petunia and your buddies at

(07:39):
Garden America.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yea, but yeah, the John's Cartoons cartoon adventures continue, so
check that out in the newsletter, also on our Facebook page.
Let's see, we've got a couple of two or three
minutes until the first break. We'll bring on our guest.
We'll talk about the guests. But what about the quote
of the week? John?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
What about that?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
What's going on with that? Huh? Who are we this week? Anyway?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
You know, we had our guest today's EDLVA, one of
the world's leading experts on fruit trees. Right, But in
that particular newsletter where we did not do the show
that week because of circumstances beyond our control, we have

(08:23):
ed this week. And I repeated that quote just because
we didn't do a show that week, and I really
liked the quote was from Ralph Waldo Emerson, and he said,
for each thorn, there's a rosebud for each twilight, a
dawn for each trial, the strength to carry on for

(08:43):
each storm cloud, a rainbow for each shadow of the sun,
for each parting sweet memories when sorrow is done.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
He was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Wendy, Well, you know you whenever you have three names.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yes, you gotta gotta make it.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You're either a poet or you're somebody who assassinated somebody.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Alfred Lord, Tennyson, Lee Harvey Oswald. Is there another assassin?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Oh yeah, John, John Wilkes Booth. And they always do
it right, so there's no confusion in case it's another
John Booth John Booth walking around. You put that middle
name in there now. Who attempted to assassinate Jackson? Or did?
Or were the success? Andrew Jackson was the first one,
I think, right, President, It was assassinated.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Or they Jackson was never assassinated.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
That somebody made an attempt on his life.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I think, really, you think you're confusing him with Garfield.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, that's the cat. That's a cartoon maybe.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Cartoon Garfield eighteen eighty one. The assassination.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, but I think I think somebody. I think it
was a duel or something Jackson was involved in in something.
I don't think he died. I think you're right. So
this is why we want our people to fact check.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Ut Aaron Burr, that was the guy involved with a duel.
Look at you just remember from the milk commercial, not school,
but the milk commercial.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Aaron bern was Vice President of the United States.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Who was Hey, So yeah, go ahead and in fact
check us. We like that.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Can we talk about who we're gonna have always carried?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yes, he was in a duel, I think I think so.
I think he was in a duel.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
We have to take a break, right, we have to talk.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
About maybe a nose.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
We're going to take a breaking back with our guest,
ed Livo. Get your questions comments, ready, boy, talk about fruits,
fruits and nuts. Here we go, mostly fruits here as
guard in America, continues. We are back on Brian Maine,
John Beg, Nascar, Tiger Pelafox. We have a break coming
up for a good friends on biz talk radio. Do
stay with us. For those on Facebook live watching us,
that was that was a long break and you saw

(10:52):
us kind of running around scattered here looking at this,
checking that out to Tiger came over. He was pointing
at things.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
By the way, before you go any further, you've got
three or four people commenting about how much they're looking
forward to hearing ed Liva.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, and see that's the thing on it we're working on.
We got a phone We were out for two weeks
and this is what happens. Obviously during that time, one
of the engineers or somebody was in here and they
were what I call fetching around, obviously doing something. They
thought that what they were doing was correct and inadvertently
have done something to the phone line. When we cannot
call out and nobody can call in.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
When you used to sleep in the studio, that never happened.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Never happened r back in the good old days. So
the bottom line is we can't call out, they can't
call in. We're going to see what we can do
but rest assured. That doesn't mean that ed Livo's off
the hook, because at some point we will have ed Livo.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, I guess if if we can't get them on
the phone today, you can have the phone fixed during
the week. Right.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Well, I'm going to call one of the engineers and
very nicely explained what happened. And in the meantime, here's
the good news. That means that for three separate times
you'll have Edlibo's picture in the newsletter.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
There you go, exactly. You just keep going. You know,
you got to keep teasing.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
You got to keep teasing everybody.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Where does he live?

Speaker 4 (12:12):
I mean he always is doing a work up by
Burchell's and all those places, which is in the valley.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
So I don't think he works for Burchell's, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
He's always doing work used.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
To be and for some reason, Mountain View is sticking
sticking in my memory.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well, if we can ever get him on the air,
we'll find it.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I want to get him in studios, but I'm leaning toward.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, if we get him in studio, we don't have
to worry about this.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
You know, But I'll find out Steve is a good
friend of mine. He's one of the engineers, and I'll
I'll say, Steve, something wrong with the phone. Can't call out,
can't call in. Yeah, So anyway, so here's the good news.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
We are back.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
We have plenty to talk about.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, there's a lot happening right now, and this is
a weird summer for us so far.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
You know, we were talking when we came in about
the weather last week in southern California.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
So let's explain how far you are to Tiger and
I was he twenty miles away.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, it's forty five minute drive, so probably now, yeah,
our drive.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
So on Thursday, you said you told Tiger and I
thunderstorms hail one of the worst thunderstorms in the history
of mankind. It will mate.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
It was biblical.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I've been in California for fifty years and it was
the biggest thunderstorm I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
So go twenty miles south and Tiger and I are like,
what are you talking about? It drizzled a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, you know, the view from my backyard, it was
like watching a light.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Show seeing the so cool.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
But the thunder was unbelievably loud. That that's what sis me.
You know. I think I told you the last earthquake
we had that it the sound was like a semi
drove into my house. Yeah, you know, and then the
whole house shook. The sounds of the thunder were that loud.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
So let me ask you a question as somebody who's
from Detroit, because back in the late sixties, I would
attend summer camp in Toronto, Montreal, back east it's summertime,
and I recall listening to the loudest thunder I'd ever
heard in my life. It sounded like a bomb one off.
So for you to compare that to the thunderstorms in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
It was equal.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
It wow out loud wow, and you and you and
we had an incha almost an inchur rain and hail
on top of it.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Like I told Tiger, I looked outside, it was like,
did it rain or is that the sprinklers?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah? Well, the good thing it was easy. It's kind
of as bringing up a sar subject. When you mentioned
the sprinklers. Ah, my wife goes, why do we have
the sprinklers? What?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
It's because I don't know how to turn them off.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I can't turn those up.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well, let me ask Tiger this. I don't think this
might not be a good idea. Couldn't you have a
sprinkler system that would detect water or rain coming from
something other than the sprinklers and just not come on
like the sensor.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
There's multiple ways to do that.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Number one is you can get sprinkler systems that connect
to your internet or Wi Fi and they rely on
weather data and where your zip code primarily is, and
if you got rain, well, you know. The issue with
that is kind of like what we're just talking about,
that you could be in the same zip code and

(15:36):
you could not get rain, and other parts of the
zip code could get rained.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
But can it sense if it's actually raining itself?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
That's so yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Then they have sensors that you could put connected to
sprinkler systems that it's it's really actually simple. They have
these almost like cardboard discs in them, and when they
get wet, these dis expand which tell the sensor to
turn off the irrigation system. The problem with that is

(16:06):
that even they will come on when it's raining because
that sensor has to get wet enough to turn off
the system. So it's more responsive than you know, proactive.
And then the other issue with that is that it
won't turn back on until those discs dry.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Out, yeah, completely, And.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
So sometimes they'll stay off for too long for a
yard because the disc stays wet, but the yard dries out.
So there's all kinds of little things I think, you know.
I mean, yes, there are ways to help people that
want a very just it takes care of it, but
it doesn't still surpass. The best person is to just

(16:48):
get out there and turn on, turn off your system.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
When you had a VCR, was it still flashing midnight
all those years? That's the earliest recollection when you know digital.
I thought I was supposed to do that when digital
work was coming into play here with everything we have
in the VCRs and you set your clock, it's all digital,
and people didn't know how to do it. It just kept
flashing midnight.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Well it was so difficult because they didn't have a
button for the clock, right. It was like you had
to press the play button and hold it while you
push the reverse and then the forward to get it
to go fast.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Forward to reverse.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
And then they made each one different, so like this brand,
you did it this way, this other brand.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
You know what's interesting you say that we have timers
in the house, but not the digital timer that I
like where you actually see like, oh it's ten forty five,
I want this to go on at eleven o'clock. We've
got the little dial clicky ones.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Like a like a like a kitchen timer.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
No, it's like because Dana knows how to use these
and I don't. It's just it's got all these numbers
and stuff on there and you click it click click,
click click to go on at a certain time, and
then click click click to go off at a certain time.
Then you have to set the time. But it's not
digital in terms of lighting up LED it's just like
what do you you mention up the doors tank the
living room light to go off at ten o'clock.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Oh, those ones, So it's like it plugs into the outlet, yes,
and then you set that.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
We use those a lot for lighting systems in landscape.
Just to click the click click click, and then you
pull out the little the you pull out parts to
make it turn on and push in yes and make
it turn off.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Now, to me, it's like I'm looking at I might
also be looking at a puzzle that's all white and
somebody asked me to put it together. I'm like, I
have no idea. Dana loves it. She goes, I don't
like the digital ones where you actually see the numbers.
This is easier for me. Yeah, I'm like, we'll go
for it.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
No, And that's what we use a lot for, like
ir lighting systems, because then we can program. You could
actually program with that to turn on and off multiple times, meaning.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yes, so it's probably more efficient in a lot of ways. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
For people, they will be like, Okay, I want my
lighting to turn on at six pm, but I want
it to turn off at ten pm, because I don't
want it to stay on all night. But the next
morning when I wake up at you know, five, it'd
be nice if it came on again and was off.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's exactly what we do to the aquarium. Yeah, comes
on at five am, goes off at nine am, comes
on at five pm, goes off at nine pm. Hey,
it's break time, aloys and girls, ladies and gentlemen. Any questions, John,
it's kind of an open I was going to say,
open phones. We don't do that anymore. Open discussion, open conversation.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
By the way, Veronica and Spring Valley said that the
thunderstorm there was amazing too, the loud thunder, So that's
Spring Valley. That's closer to you, guys.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Really look more inland. We're going to take a quick
break for our friends on BIS Talk Radio. Thank you
for tuning in. This is Garden America. Stay with us.
We are back on the air Garden America biz Talk
Radio Facebook Live. I got the uh, the eye roll
from John a minute ago. Very uncomfortable that eye roll
because it can be interpreted in so many different ways.

(19:52):
In fact, I do love the eye roll. I use
it at home.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I thought the b roll was your favorite b.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Roll's okay, but then you have to go back and
ed it and decide what you're going to use because
you don't use all of it.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
And sometimes you don't tee any of it.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, Veronica brought up I think it was Veronica here.
I have to double check, but she brought up plumeria
that she planted three and two of them have already rooted. Yeah,
And I was looking at my plume area, which I

(20:26):
thought I had had rooted because they were still nice
and green. And I put him in the last fall
and just took him out yesterday because they had withered
at the bottom and Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Are you playing them in the ground?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
And are you I was trying to root them in
the ground. Are you putting any cactus mixed or anything?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
And there when I was trying to root them, it's
on the side of the hill with DG.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Right, so I thought they'd be a perfect rooting medium.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
You're talking about draining, you're making sure everything's draining.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Okay, Yeah, I didn't mean. I didn't know. It's that's
a bummer, you know, you would think because I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
I told you guys about my flub up at the
Master Gardener's talk about propagation. Yea mixing up scarification and
scarification and what was.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
The other one?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
You're still mixing.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
What are the two? Scarification? And it's it starts with
an s. Scarification and scratification.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Gratification.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Scarification is cold now.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I no, No, that's the physical, that's.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Your Christian jo sanctification, right, But what we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Well, anyways, I did also make the comment at that
event that if you are a.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Plumeria breeder or a drainium breeder, you're really not.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
A propagator because those are two easy things to propagate.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
So I might have offended some people.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Is that a correct term to breed or a propagator? Propagate? Right?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
You know you don't have breeders, okay, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, but but yeah, so, I mean plumerias tend to
be very easy to to propagate.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
It wouldn't that be begin I would want to start there.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
No, it's great.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
It's like one on one.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Oh yeah, it is one on one. So the fact
that John can't is yeah, probably a bit.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, the dead for crea that I took from here
you grew out. No, it's dead.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Oh I thought you were saying.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Actually, I look, it took another four months before it died.
So I had it on for four months. Uh. I
think maybe a combination of the cold winter. It just
wasn't good for it.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
It had rotted out too, which is tough, right, because
plants that dry out sometimes I think they can come back,
but like when they're rotted, you because you you will
need to add moisture for it to survive. But the
fact that it's dying is because of over moisture, so
you have to allow it to dry a little bit.

(23:07):
And it's that balance where where if it plant is
drying out dead, like when John has you like when
John has his gopher ridden roses and then he brings
them back to life. It's because the plant is dry
and it you you, you baby it back into life.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Got another gopher last week? Nice, Now they're showing up
in my rose bits.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Well, now it gets serious.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, now we got to Well I think it's because
of the I think it was because of the rain
really soft, because it made the soil softer. Right, Yeah,
so they said, hey, you know, let's let's head up
to that area we haven't been to for a while.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
So, but gophers are traditionally solitary creatures, right, yeah, more
or less.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Living in community.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, because they're not like prairie.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah, they don't live in a community, but they could
have a lot of them in an area.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah. So I'm just I'm trying. I'm thinking about how
this might look.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Meerkats would be cute to have in your yard.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I'm just thinking about all these gophers that are really,
you know, solitary creatures. But you know, they're within a
i don't know, one hundred feet of another one, and
they're all like heading toward the same you know, John's roses.
You know where is it. It's up the hill here.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
If you lived in Madagascar and you have like this
garden and you're like, oh, mirror cat problems.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Oh you know what. In Australia they have a bounty
on cockatoos, you know, those big.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
White cockatoos, those pretty birds.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, because they destroy roofs, the roofs, they'll they'll bland
someplace in Traparta, you know, a wood siding or yeah,
they have a crops.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I would think also, right, fruit crops.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I would. I would say, so, yeah, it's amazing there's
pretty birds you see in a pet store and that
people are out there shooting them.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
And then in Costa Rica they were talking about the
two kids. Remember yeah, how annoying they are and how
they don't like them.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yep, I'd like it.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Meanwhile, us we're like, look at there's the two kids.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
It's weird to see, like we were. I took a
picture which I have hanging in our living room. We
made it. We made a pitch stop in coastal Rick
at a liquor store and got a couple of sandwiches
and whatever. And outside in the parking lot were these macaus.
Were these beautiful macaus, and it's like, shouldn't you be
in a cage or in a pet store or someplace
and to see them in the wild like we did

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that too, can in front of somebody's house.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yes, John, I was just laughing at one of our
listeners comments here Veronica. She said, she said, gophers be
like rose party at John's house.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, that's right. So what is your plan of attack now?
Because you can't afford just to he No.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I got the one in on the left side of
the driveway, I think coming from my neighbor's house. So
I got one before we went to Idaho. And then
yesterday we dumped the soil on the driveway that we
were hauling to the back and I saw gop for activity.
So I put out a trap, and this morning when

(26:03):
I came to work, I saw that it was set nice.
So when I get home, I'll have to check and
see if I got that another one.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Gosh.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
So I'm really surprised by this point in time you
don't have more predators.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Because you leave them making care of you leave them out,
like you know, in the next day they're gone.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, but I don't think do you think that coyotes
dig up gophers.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
No, but I think that if they come to an
area where they're constantly getting fed, that they would probably
be more into the area, which would then deter critters,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Like I mean like rabbits and yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Everything you know, and then even then, I mean, it's
just not even coyotes, it's also owls and hawks that
are getting them. So I would think it would I
think everybody around your house would be like, oh man,
I'm just hanging out here.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
They're not doing their job.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, he's right. You know when you think about that,
you have a lot of predator out there. But you know,
if you've got to work for your meal, you appreciate
a lot more than if someone just gives it to you.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, yeah, true, Like we do the birds in our pet, Like,
why should I do this work when I know he's
just going to lay it out there for.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Me, lay it, he's going to barbecue it for me.
This seasoning we were.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's just about we're getting into plumerius season.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Right, Yeah, minor minor leafed and butted.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Now, Carla was wondering, Tiger, could I cut off the
dead end on those plummerea that rotted from the bottom,
let it callous and try again. What do you say that,
because I'll tell you I have tried that and at
least forty fifty times, never once been successful. Yeah yeah,

(27:52):
but what about the fifty first time? Well, I'm wondering.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
It depends on how much it really does, because you
know that rotting doesn't just stop right there.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
You have to go pretty It has to be a
pretty big cutting.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Like most people's cuttings are like six inches maybe a foot,
and that's not long enough to do a secondary cut, right,
So you've got to have a cutting that's a branch
or longer to do that secondary cutting, because, like you said,
like you've tried it and it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I know when i'm rooting rose cuttings sometimes they'll even
leaf out. And I've even had occasionally the cutting a
leaf out bloom and then die and then I pull
it up and it's dead at the bottom. You know,
it's black and it's just weathers and dies. And I
have tried those cutting off the top again and rerooting

(28:49):
it and never been successful.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
No, But I will say that if you have a branch,
then at that point in time, you'll probably be much
more successful. I'm not like with rose cuttings, but with plumeria.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Some people try to do a cutting where there's a
branch section, and if you can do it at that point,
then you'll be way more successful. But if you just
try to cut off four or five inches of rotted
material and then replant it again.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Now, do you remember the For people who haven't heard
us before, Tiger's doing some landscaping in my backyard, putting
in some rose bits. When you got your crew first started,
do you remember that Cooper's Forerme's rose that was in
a five gallon camp and it rooted into the ground. Yeah,

(29:36):
and the thing was gigantic, right, I don't know how
long ago it was you dug it out, but I
now have one gallon two to one gallon plants from
cuttings that I just took off that rooted and then
now they're in one gallon. Yes, just a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
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(30:17):
news Top of the Hour back at six minutes after.
And what is that?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
His thumb is locked?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Is your thumb locked?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Trigger?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Whatever happened to you? Is it just because.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
You scare me like that? I'm welcoming people.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Have occasionally anybody who's over sixty listening to us, do
your hands ever locked up?

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, I've got I've got a bad thumb here that
was an old injury when I was a kid, that
it'll lock up sometimes to there then I have to
click it down.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
But this happens to me, It stuck there and I
physically will have to Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Exactly, I think that's Isn't that what trigger finger is?
Is when a finger locks up?

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I think?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
So, then you go, did it hurt? It's weird how
they make you feel. Yeah, you know, no matter what,
when you get older, you think that you've seen it all,
there's always something there.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
We want to know if this has ever happened to you.
Those tuned in on Facebook alive.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Where your hands just come about?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Now?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
My wife always says, because you're not drinking enough water,
you really need to drink more waters.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
We're talking about your digits. Those are digits, right, Yeah,
you know your thumbs like homeplate.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
But it's not just my thumb. Sometimes I'll have weird
like claws or something that.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Well, gardeners always have hands as you get older, gardner's
claw the right is the pruning, the grabbing.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, it's my left hand.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, but it doesn't matter because you're just so active
with me. You know.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Let's be also honest with the listeners. Right now, you
moved forty was it forty of soil yesterday?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Right?

Speaker 4 (32:00):
So grabbing that wheelbarrow, lifting it, walking it, dumping it,
you know that movement over and over.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
It has that happened to you prior to the wheel
barrow experiment? Oh yeah, it happens episode I should say.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Right, but it could be from but it doesn't hurt.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
It doesn't hurt.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Like it didn't hurt being in that position.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, I could feel, you know, a pressure, you could
It wasn't a pain, No, no, on a one to
ten scale, maybe a two.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Okay, say that wheelbarrow I can't say wheelbarrow, wheelbarrow? Is
that it wheelbarrow?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Barrow?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
It doesn't sound right. You ever come across the words
I can't wheel barrow?

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Well, and it's barrow where you want to say barrel?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I want to say burrow, like a wheel burrow, like
I'm burrowing into some I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I mean, I think I get it when people say
wheel barrow.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Just want a fake one. He wants a wheel burrow exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's like, you know, that's like during the week when
I'm reading copy, when I'm producing commercials, and I'll come
across the word that I know, but I can't say
all of a sudden, I can't say it. I'm like,
are you kidding me? I can't say this word?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Or when you're reading it and and you're they're like,
that's not the word. Why is it spelt like this?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Hey, ore U. Our friend Tanya up in San Jose
says that her plumeria cuttings that she got from a
very kind man who lives across from Mission Hill's nurse
ery started growing. She's so excited.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Now my question is did he know that? Yes, he
gave them.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
To she told me. She asked, okay, which.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Which is doesn't seem like the kind of person would
just go.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
And he's got and he's got a whole bunch of
them in his front yard and they're actually they're actually
growing into the sidewalk.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
So I think he ruins them. He prunes them pretty
often house right across the street, directly across the street.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Okay, Yeah, and he's got them planted, like I say,
right along the sidewalk, and so they they need to
be proved because they're just growing into his yard in
the sidewalk.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
So both parties were happy, I think.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
So, I mean, so I don't think they do this
anymore because I think that plume area has become more
popular here on the mainland. But I know for a
long time companies growers would work with landscape companies in
Hawaii where these landscape companies, I mean they'd have to

(34:26):
prune these plume areas constantly, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Like grass over there a lucky Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Well, so what they would do is they would take
all these cuttings, throw them into a shipping container and
then ship them to the States and then on on
the other end here they would grab them and then
you know, that's where we would get all of our
Plumaria cuttings from was because they're just over there. They're
just they're like hacking at them with machetes and getting
rid of them.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
And then but people would be like yeah, like they'd
be like, hey, give me a ship, you contator.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
I'll pay you money to take this away. You know,
I don't know if it happens anymore.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
But the weather over there too, they just grow so quick. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Now Plumeria are native to Baja, right.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Baha, And there's a couple of varieties right there, well speak.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
A couple of species. There's like the evergreen plume area
are native to Asia like Singapore, and they are the islands. Yeah,
the more and they're the more tender varieties. The deciduous
plume area like the ones that grow in Baja, the

(35:31):
hardiest ones.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
But the amount of breeding that's been bring up your
word again, Brian breeding.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Breeding.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
The amount of breeding that's been going on in Thailand
is unbelievable. There's a few websites that specialize in plume
area and the new ones that are it's like roses
used to be, you know, where there'd be new ones
every year. These are probably I'm thinking like one hundred
to two hundred dollars. Yeah, you know, until there's enough

(36:01):
plants where you can get a lot of cuttings.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Well, and then the cool thing with Plumeria is, like
a rose, is you can breed for multiple things, you know,
like roses, like you could bring for fragrance, right, you
could breed for color or or flower style.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
You can breed for growth habit.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
So yeah, you know, there's yeah, dwarfs are really popular.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Unlike some plants that it's like, oh, you know, that's
a cool flower, you know, and you just get that
and there's no fragrance and the plant doesn't grow any
different like roses, like Plumeria, you know, you could breed
for multiple different avenues and have very different takes on
the whole plant, you know. I mean when we were

(36:43):
at the Plumeria show in Balboa Park and to see
the different ones with fragrances and the fragrance of the flower,
it's just spectacular because not everybody thinks about plumary having
the fragrance because they just think of the flower.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
True.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, yeah, really, I think I think it's just a flower.
I always think of fragrance.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
If you want fragrance, go into the men's bathroom. No,
it smells. Really, I don't know what they've done. Really,
it's like a it's like a garden oat.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
It's because there's only four people working in this entire building.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
But it's when I think of a plumeria, I think
of a rose. Like the first thing you want to
do is smell. I know I feel the same way
about it.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Everybody wants to do that. That that that may not
know much about roses. Yeah, the first thing they do
is put their nose up to it. Does it smell?
I go, do you mean does it a fragrance?

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Because it smells but got good fragrance. But does it
have fragrance?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Now have you ever been around somebody john that that
smells fragrance on a rose and then you or somebody
else's I don't smell anything.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Oh yeah, well now yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
But I mean or they say it has slight, slight fragrance.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Little I used to give talks on the different fragrances
in roses. You know, different roses have different fragrances. And
I think we've talked on the show before about how
in France they were breeding roses for the perfume industry,
right right, That would have like maybe a Guardina fragrance. Yeah,

(38:14):
so that instead of growing Guardina's to get that odor,
you could grow roses.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
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Speaker 2 (39:02):
I think we have enough people online to open up
trigger Finger support group.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
We got some reactions, Oh a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, Carla says she feels strangely comforted. She thought she
was how about that lots of people out there, and
then a couple of people said, yeah, it's called trigger finger.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
And it just it just it just tightens up and
you can't move it right.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, it's not always the the thumb area. It's just
really weird shapes. I think it's kind of fun actually,
because I always show up to my wife so that
I can hear her say, you need to dream, drink
more water?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
What about just a spray windex on?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
And what's weird is I brought about the water today
and it locked up, so so there. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
You kind of enjoy it like like back in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Fun.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Back in the seventies, we sniff gasoline, we enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
That is so different. That's not all.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
But what I'm saying is he's enjoying what should be
like uncomfortable and smelling gasoline shouldn't be pleasant.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Analogy, since we're talking about my wife Shannon, when we
were first married, she would love to visit my parents'
house because to get into the house, no one ever
used the front door, use the side door, and that
you had to go into the garage.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
That sounds real sneaky, what's going on.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
That's just the way the house was set up. But
you go into the garage, and she loved the smell
of gasoline. Yeah, she just yeah once. So I guess
there's people out there who really like.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Even when it's an enclosed area like Shannon was in
the garage and not.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Just in the pump in ninety two. Octane is so
much better than eighty.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Back in the day, the good stuff was called ethyl. Right,
you had ethyl in regular You don't remember ethyl?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Ethyl was the good member lucy in ethol?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
No, come on, ethyl was the good gas. Now you
have what do you have? Leaded? Unleaded in?

Speaker 3 (40:56):
What you don't have? Lead it anymore doesn't exist. What
I'm what I'm saying, different grades, I know.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
But what I'm saying is back in the day, when
you had ethel there was I guess leaded gasoline was
a choice too.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah probably because now.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, right, But I'm trying to think of like the
premium gas.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
It's like you pay more for what what do you.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Pay more for today? What's the most expensive gas?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Premium? But it's octane it's what is it ninety one
or something like that, right, right, which I think is
the scam.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, I think so, oh yeah exactly. It was just
like just like ethyl, yeah, give me the good stuff.
Yeah for ten cents more, you bet will put the
good stuff in your car.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
So you know, so we're talking about all the smells
and things. I really do feel my daughter has, which which,
by the way, she graduated middle school yesterday.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I have a high schooler congratulation.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Yeah, tenth grade. Tassia is in the ninth grade. Did
you say tenth.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Well you said she graduated middle school.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Correct, So now she goes into ninth grade.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
See when my when we went to school, it was
first to sixth elementary, yeah, then junior high was seventh
to ninth, and then high school ten to twelve.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Oh really yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Oh is that for you too?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
John High School was yeah, ten eleven twelve, yeah, and
then seven eight nine, right was junior high Junior high
which because and I think they called junior high middle
school now, which is why I got thrown off when
you said, yeah, we did the same thing when we
were in Idaho. We took my granddaughter out, uh to
celebrate her going into seventh grade.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so but I think she has
more receptors for for for taste, it smell. She's a
very she she knows exactly what's in a meal and
she can pick.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Up those are called super tasters.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, like I really do think she is, and it's amazing.
And maybe she could be a wine yeah what I
called the u somon yer.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Some John, you're a wine drinker.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, but you know it's the same.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
You know.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
It's funny is that we have an employee and his
his wife as an artist and she's a Mission Hills
artist and she's it's actually proven she has more receptable
receptacles in her eyes that allow her to see more
colors than in the average eye. So when she sees something,
she can pick up the different colors better than we

(43:18):
what we can, which is which is it's funny because
we all think we're seeing the same thing. Like, right,
you go through your life thinking, you know, I'm looking
at you, Brian, I see a red, a gray and
a red and a gray and the walls white.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Well, your eye could be seeing a completely different color
than me.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
And when we talk about like breeding of roses and
these other things, it's really neat to see what people
create from what they see, because it's it's.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Well, yeah, then you can get into the various artists
that paint pictures, and they have different styles.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
You know why the psychedelic artists pasta.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
White. Picasso put an eye just in discrim only wherever
he wanted to in a picture.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
It wasn't really a I was never a big fan
of Cubism. Oh yeah, and uh, and I always thought
that was because somebody didn't really have any talents, so
he just made something up. But then I saw some
Impressionist work that Picasso had done, and he was He
really was a good artist.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, so here we go. This gets back to philosophy
in college. Was it Descartes who was.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
The I think therefore I am right that was d.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Renee Day Cartes. So that was the philosophy class. And
his whole thing was kind of what you said. If
you and I drink a seven up same you know,
seven up years of seven up? Do we taste the
same thing? Does it taste the same to me as
it does to you? Or is it different? Does the
stop sign look the same.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
We used to have? Do you remember the party trick
when you were, you were younger where you would get
blindfolded and then have to tell the difference between coke
seven up and ginger ale and they all tasted the same.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Do you know what I could? I could taste the difference.
I can taste the difference between coke and pepsi. Pepsi.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Oh yeah, Pepsi.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
To me has a little sweeter taste. To me, I
don't like pepsi, and coke is a little more carbonated
and less.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
I was so bugged out when I was a young kid,
because that's when coke and pepsi were having their battle
right in every yeah, and everywhere you went. It was
like cocoa pepsi, cocoa pepsi, and they would have these
taste tests and if you got it right, you got
like a pepsi hat or T shirt or something like
that right. And I didn't get it right, And I

(45:37):
was like so bummed.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
You weren't as discriminating as you thought, you know, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
I was not.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
What have we got?

Speaker 2 (45:43):
On the old comment question line, John Well Dana wonders
if the summer blend smells different than the winter blenda?
Sure what you talk?

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yes, because I remember how they switch it in the
summer in the winter.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I this might seem heard to people, but both my
mother and my grandmother used to wash their husband's clothes
and gas.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I think I've heard about that.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah, yeah, well because they would they worked in construction.
You come home and you'd have like oil or grease stains.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
To get take it out.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Really yeah, but then then you then you would use
regular soap after.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Go down to the creek and beat it on a rock. Well.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
I also hope they were in next to any open
flames wearing that stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I remember going into my grandmother's house and almost being
knocked out and say, Grandma, doesn't that.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Make you dizzy?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
So let's see, oh there was. Brian was about to
say in my day back and I know, right.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Does she pick on you for that back in my time?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (47:02):
But it's like, because you know what nobody cares about
your day, I'm coming to realize more and more to
what's exciting to you. And we used to do things
this way. People are like, so what, we don't do
it that way anymore?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
You know, I really admire Tiger teaching his kids about
his day. I mean, really, you want we don't do
emphasis on history for your kids, right, yes, And I
don't think the school's really concentrate your.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Kids growing up, you know, kind of impart your your
knowledge and your childhood and history and things like that,
so they get a jump in school because I remember
picking up I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
I was involved as tigers.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
I remember picking up my son Eric when he was
I don't know, seven eight years old. We'd be driving
home and I say, hey, let's learn the state capitals.
And in the car we'd go back and forth. I said,
you know, one of these days in school, they're going
to do this, and you're gonna be ahead of everybody else.
And I think two or three years later, he goes,
guess what we're doing the state capitals tomorrow? I go,
do you remember? I think I do? And you got
an a.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
That was one of my favorite games growing up. Do
you remember the puzzle of the United States Wardingham? You
would put him all together and then there was a
little plastic flag with the capital that would stick in
the hole that was in the That was one of.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
My Here here's my state capital question, which I love.
What is the capital of Vermont Montpellier? Very good? John Wow,
case a lot of people go, I don't know, Vermont
is Vermont of state? Yeah, yeah, Vermont.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
So I'll have those things online where everybody up and goes,
do you know what the capital of Chicago is? They'll
go on Tennessee, We're going to take a break for
our friends, our good friends on bistalk, and I want
to talk you tell you when we come back about
what's what kind of things his nursery's caring to put
in the garden.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Now, let's do that and more of your questions comments
on Facebook Live. This is Garden America. All right, that's
a very quick break. If you're tuned in on Facebook Live,
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us live. John.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
That's always exciting, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Yeah. Eight o'clock in the West Coast, eleven o'clock Eastern
time zone. And then you have Central and Mountain, which
we tell people you can figure that out. So you
want to talk to Tiger.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Well, you can listen if you want, if you do
it quietly, No, I was just wondering, like in different
parts of the country, there's different things going on. You know,
Tiger you mentioned that, you know, like it's all over
in some of the cold climates, like you don't put
annuals in anymore because it's just too late. And maybe

(49:46):
in areas like Alaska you're just beginning to put in.
It's hard to say, but in southern California we've gone
from May gray now in the June gloom. It seems
every morning is cool, dristly. So what kinds of things

(50:06):
are people putting in? I know, to put in say natives,
you probably wait a little yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
That'd be ideal, right, because we know we're gonna get
hot and dry, and natives are going to struggle if
you try to plant them when it is hot and dry.
You know, it's funny that you bring it up, because
it kind of like what we're talking about with plumeria
is normally this time of year.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
That's what we shift over.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
We shift over to tropicals, We shift over to the
palms Hibiscus plumeria, you.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Know, the.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Cannas, you know, guardenias, all those all those kind of
more tropical plants. Yes, and and normally it's hot and dry,
and so it's kind of a weird, a weird shift
because it's like, yes, it is time for that stuff,
but it's also hot and dry for that stuff. So

(50:57):
it's a challenge. This is amo almost the ideal. You
said it's cool, and it is chill.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
It is.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
It is cool, but it's actually humid and warm like
during the day, which is a great environment for this
more tropical stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
So this is actually probably.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
One of the best years for those plants that we've had, because,
like you're saying, normally in the end of May we
shift over to tropicals, but it's sunny and it's hot,
and nobody can really plant anything. And and you talk
about June gloom, and that's a lot of coastals San
Diego and southern California, but normally inland San Diego and
southern California is is still sunny, it's still warm, but

(51:37):
we're getting this cloud all the way through into the
inland into the mountains, and you know, like we're saying
a thunderstorm with lots of rain all the way into
the inland and mountains that this is a great year
for tropical plants. I think I think people are going
to be real happy with their hibiscus this year, plumeria
palms and stuff like that, because it isn't as hot

(52:00):
and dry it as it normally is by this time.
So if you're looking to go to the garden center
and you're looking for something, that's what you're gonna kind
of find.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Bananas. Bananas are also.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
By planting now and by the time it does get hot,
they've already established. Yeah, and that's what you want, that establishment,
so when it does get hot, they're not effected.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Well, what Tiger's saying is you've got the the humidity
and the more at least the morning cloud cover. Even
if you're inland and it burns off later, you've had
that humidity from the cloud cover that helps plants take off.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Yeah, And so I mean it's a it's a funky
year because this weather is lasting a lot longer than
it normally would. But for the summer plants, they're gonna
love it. And then you know, you you know we
talked about natives. When you look at our native hillside,
they definitely are not as dry as they normally are
this time of year, where you know, everything turns into

(52:54):
a big tumbleweed on the on the mountain slopes.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
You know.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
I mean you you have this beautiful vista over a valley.
Normally this time of year it's all brown and you
know you might get a splash of color here and there.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
But now it's still looking good.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah. So what about in the vegetable garden? And the
reason I ask is that I'm putting in a vegetable garden. Finally,
I didn't have room before, So now we've got that's
my question.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
John is terrible about this, I know, but we should
try to document the vegetable garden because I'm really interested
to see what happens in John's vegetable garden because you know,
it's open to the elements. So, you know, we talked
about it. You got a lot of critters, you have
a lot of predators, you have a lot of birds,
you know, so what are you going to grow? And

(53:45):
then how is that going to be effected down the road?
You know, I mean planting right now we're in June.
I mean, it's it's pretty. It's borderline too late for
a pumpkin, right, shouldn't that have been done like more
like may?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Right? I don't know if I have room for pumpkins.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Well no, but I mean, you know, to talk about
our first level of summer planting.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
So what you're saying if you're talking about things that
might be a little bit too late, definitely pumpkins unless
you unless you wanted to grow say pie pumpkins or
sugar pumpkins. What about squash, Well, that's that's what the
next thing. I was gonna say, winter squash. Maybe some
of the winter squash that take longer, that take longer
your borderline, It depends where you are, like you're saying.

(54:30):
But still plenty of time I would think for for beans, Yeah,
still time for tomatoes.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Right, yes, cherry tomatoes definitely. You know, some of the
bigger tomatoes you might struggle with the heat as it gets.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Hotter into the you know time of year. Eeppers, peppers,
I mean this the go for right, I mean, they're
great bushes in general, just to have and they'll go
for us all the way through into the winter.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah, if it doesn't get too cold. Yeah, I'm thinking, well,
because us now we have limited space.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Uh uh.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
And my wife pointed this out, and I think she
makes a good point. And I only want to plant
what I'm going to eat. Yes, well, yeah, absolutely, because
one year I had the best turn up crop you've
ever seen. We don't eat turnips, and we threw them away,
but you could have taken to the fair that it
looks so good.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Some beets and radishes.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, radish, what about radishes? You can get get a radish.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
In two weeks?

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Are you a radish eater?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Love radish?

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I love radish too.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
And then John let his little recipe about putting oil.
What do you put on it?

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Olive oil and salt on the salt, olive oil, salt,
And it's amazing that kids will eat that well.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
And the cool thing about you growing it is you
get the ones you want, and you can get the
varieties that you can't find, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Like John said, beans, you know, that's great.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Grow beans, you know, and you know, but grow a
variety that you're not going to find at the grocery store,
because that's why you want to grow by Otherwise you
might as well go to the grocery door. If you're
just looking for green beans, go to the grocery door,
get green.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Beans, romano beans and boiled potatoes cut up, mixed together
and was again salt and olive oil is just amazing.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Boiled potatoestato, boiled romano beans and then.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Two together and then.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Then salt, salt and olive oil.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
It is delicious.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
And I say romano beans because romano beans have to
me a little meteor texture than snap beans.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Still time for summer squash though, right, Yeah, like the zucchinis.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Yeah, and you know, I mean, like you know, Brian
mentioned the radishes, you know, and then herbs. Herbs are
always able to be planted. You know, this time of year.
You got to be careful with some of the stuff
that bowl.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
It's like the.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Cilantro and basil. But I mean if you're looking to
have some parsley reagano chives, things like that.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
It is break time. We have two more segments coming up.
Next segment's a long segment. Takes well time for lots
of things to happen here. So do you stay with
us obviously here in Garden America. Brian Main, John Bagnascar,
Tiger Palafox, a break for biz Talk Radio. All right,
got to make sure we push the right buttons. We
are back from that break, and what to plant, what

(57:30):
not to plant? What's too late. What might work?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
I just wanted to come in quickly. Went back to
when we were talking about how loud the thunder was
at my house during that star Paula mentions that her
dogs were terrified. Oh and Paula lives in Fallbrook also,
so it was a lot of enough to scare the dogs.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
You know, a couple of years ago, evening time. I'm
not sure exactly what time of the year it was.
Our front door was open, and this flash like it
looked like the flash of lightning came into the house,
is what it appeared to and within a second or
two later, boom. Now don't they say that between the
time you see the lightning and you hear the thunder,

(58:13):
that's how far away it is. It must have been
in the parking lot. It was unbelievable, and the whole
place showed.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
And and so speaking of that, John, when you had
this storm, could you see the lightning and then hear
the thunder or was it mostly just thunder that you witnessed?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Well, you mean heard, yeah, heard right? Yeah? But no,
it was both.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
It was both.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I was sitting on my back, Patty, I was like
a light show.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Aren't you supposed to see the lightning and account one
two and then the thunder, and that tells you how
close it is.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
But you know, because they talk about thunderstorms, right, and
that doesn't always mean that there's.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Lightning, right, like you know, it's always right, right, there's.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Places that have thunder storms and it's just loud and boomy, right,
it doesn't always mean there's lightning. And so I'm wondering
if there's something that makes it louder, like what makes
the thunder louder?

Speaker 2 (59:06):
I remember in Michigan we would have we called them
heat storms where there'd be no rain, but you would
get lightning. Really you could just watch the lightning.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yeah, whoa.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I was surprised that with all the lightning there was
that there were no fires. Yeah, but maybe it was
because of the rain that was with it.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Yeah, it's funny how nature works that.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Out Right, we're going to light this stuff on fire,
but don't worry, We're gonna come along and put it
out right now, do.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
You guys remember that Carla had bought a yellow plumeria
at Mission Hills, bought it at your store, and she
took it home and it fell apart. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
and she was worried I was going to die. She says,
she's got new shoots coming up everywhere. Excellent, So she's
all excited.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Who doesn't like a good new shoot, right?

Speaker 2 (59:53):
You know? Yellow plumeria is one color that I don't have.
My wife, we have a bed that I don't color
coordinate anything. I just plant what I like, right, Yeah,
and it all seems to work together. She just one
bed where she wanted pink and white and somehow purple

(01:00:14):
had creeped into it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Also, but what does that mean? Like, did you not
know it was purple?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
No, she bought it that she saw a purple lustrome
area she really liked. So it's planted in there, got it,
and then it's okay to put some purple. Well, now
she's decided that we have to weed out the purple,
so it's going back to pink and white. So I've
got to find new places for some of the things

(01:00:41):
that were purple. But one of the plumary colors I
don't have yet is yellow. I've got seems like every
other color. Oh and you know what I wanted to
bring up that that is looking awesome as time of year,
our day lilies. Oh, Yeah, the dailies are just spectacular.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Do they?

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
I mean that falls in like you know you see
day lilies with like tropical displays, does that fall into
a tropical because it's not right. No.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
I always put my dailylase with my roses. I think
they're great companion plants. I know a lot of people don't,
but I just think they mix good with roses. And
by the way, if you ever need any more delalies,
I know I've given you some, but they all need
to be divided, so I need to.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
I love that John manages his plants like that, though too,
like he divides them like he actually does not a
lot of people. Yeah, he does divide, he does conquer him. Yeah,
he's like you've been conquered, but I'm going to divide
you now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
I might.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Maybe next week I'll try to bring in some flower
buds from the day lilies, because some are just amazing.
Like I have one called Bella Lugosi, which is a
black purple you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Know Bella Lagosi. No, okay, he was an actor who
played Dracula.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Oh my legs, yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
They wanted to establish that otherwise you're telling a story.
He's like Bella Lagosi Remainian or something, or he was
a Remainian.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Actor something like Eastern Europe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Eastern European anyway, So you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Know the last movie he made supposedly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yeah, he made a bad B movie towards the end, didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
He The last movie that he was in was supposedly,
and actually there was footage of him home footage of
it in the beginning of the movie was Plan nine
from Outer Space.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Yes, you know what, You're exactly right, which was also
in Seinfeld when he was falling asleep and he would
wake up and write these ideas down and him and
Larry David were going back and forth about like the best,
the worst, the worst, best B movie, And I think
Planet nine was mentioned Plan nine, Plan nine anyway, Bella Legosi.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Do you know the original name for Plan nine from
outer Space?

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Plan eight?

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Wasn't it Plan two?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
The Vampire Lesbians of him?

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
God, I feel all of a sudden, I feel very uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Yeah, well, do you know he's got beat?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Do you know why they changed the name? Oh? I
could think of a while, especially back then. Well, the
main reason was that Ed Wood, who was the director,
needed money to make the film.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
And they wouldn't give him the money.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
And he couldn't find it anywhere. But he got talked
to Baptist Church into sponsoring his movie, but it never
told him the names, so he had to change the
name once he got was able to get their money. Anyway,
What were we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Daily?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
The Daily? Yeah, bella lego. See that dark purple with
a yellow center and it looks awesome and a big
flower too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Would you go so far as to say it's striking?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I would, Okay, I would, because that's what I'm picturing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I had to stop and think because I have a
rose that's called striking.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
But you you given me a couple of dailies, and
I love them, and I think maybe that is one
that you've given to me, because I feel like that
stands out in my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
But here's what I may have, but I kind of
doubt it because it's one that I always struggled with.
Oh yeah, and I finally got to the point where
it's you know, big.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
The issue that I have is I have them planted
along my path down to the pool. Zero irrigation to them. Okay,
so they get because they're on a lower part of
this like slope. I have irrigation behind they do, and
I'm like, this is perfect. They're growing wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
And they don't get too much. It's always a perfect
watering path.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
It really is. But they still get rust.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Oh yeah, that'll happen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
You know what I mean. And that's frustrating because, like you, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
A relatively new phenomenon.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
You would need like no water on the foliage. It's
not in a it's not in a shady area.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
And it's not regular rust. It's day littly rust.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Why do you say that's a new phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Well, I'm not sure where it came from, but up
to I think within the last and by new for me,
you know, everything's relative, so like, but you wonder years
ago there was no rust on day lilies in California. Well,
this came in from somewhere and now it's affected.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Some day lilies like roses, are resistant to thrust, and
they're trying to breed day lilies that are resistant, but
you know, some of the old spectam and they only
get it in the spring though. Tigers, Yeah, they grow
out of it. And if you really wanted to, which
I don't have, Yeah, I don't have to do. But

(01:05:43):
you could go through and use systemic fungicide and in
the spring before it starts, and you want to get it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Yeah, I just I just get, you know, frustrated when
plants get problems, when you would think like, oh, it's
a great environment, you should be able to grow alone
without any kind of interference like that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
But it's it's all right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
I'm disappointed in my dogs though, because in that same
bed is where I planted those dalias and I told
you it came up, like you know, I planted these
values there and they grew wonderfully for a year and
then I was just like, we'll see what happens in
the next few years for these and it was growing
perfectly and beautifully and it was blooming. And then I

(01:06:29):
went out there yesterday and I could it was obviously
like the dog like jumped into it and then like
just smashed the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
But for the previous two years nothing they were fine. Well, no,
almost said the dog discovered them.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Well, something happened where the dog just jumped into it.
I don't know if the dog saw a critter or something,
but the dog normally stays out of the area and
this time. It just went straight into a Dalia bush.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Do you remember the story I told you guys about
I think it was like maybe three weeks ago about
the little baby bunny.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Oh, yes, and found in the driveway dilemma what to
do with the baby bunny?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
The world dilemma?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Right? And I just left it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
And Elaine Ornellis is the president of the San Diego
Dahlia Society. We have twenty five seconds and they gave
me a really special dahlia. It was growing really well.
That baby bunny grew up and ate the doll. How
do you know what's the same bunny? I could tell
I saw it. I saw it. Run away.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Audio break, Facebook Life, Stay with us. I'm Brian Main,
John Magnascar, Tucket, Pela Fox here on gard in America. Okay,
we are back. It is our final segment. Seven minutes
and forty eight seconds to get to or, I should say,
take care of any last minute business things we have
not yet brought up well or brought to the surface.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
We have a question from Tanya. She says that her
iceberg growses have come back so well the sheer should
she cut off the dead blooms or let them go
natural tiger icebergs. Yeah, A lot of people don't do
anything do anything to icebergs, and they just keep pre blooming.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Most of the iceberg is under the water too, very
little is on top.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Just right, So I would I would just say that
you don't have to do anything with an iceberg, but
if you do clip off the buds, you are going
to get more blooms.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
And the plant looks better.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
So I I don't do anything to my roses. I
don't do anything to a lot of my plants, and
I probably if I had an iceberg, I probably wouldn't
touch it, right, But I will also say that if
you do trim it, it looks better.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Now is that a pattern that you fall into if
you own a nursery, Yes, I don't need to take
care of it. I'll just put in a new one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
If guys exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Yeah, I'm very I'm very much on the side of
buying a plant and planting it that will grow to
the size of what I want it to be, not
not anything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Or will grow despite you, Yes, despite yourself, it'll grow.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Yes, you hope that it will. Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
I'm still planting little tiny trees.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
I have a friend to grow. Yeah, I have a
friend that texts me and there's I have.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Another tree issue, you remind me. But I have a
friend that text me and it's a Pygmy Day palm,
probably about four feet tall, and it's obviously dead. And
he's like, is this a goner? And I'm like, yeah,
it's it's it's dead, like you know, just think of
it as a chance to put in something new. And
he's bumming out for it, and I'm like, this isn't

(01:09:44):
some like rare psy cat or like a rose that
was you know, the old last one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
The premium plants. Uh yeah, back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Twenty years ago. But no, I mean Pigmy Day Pauls.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Right now, you can get them anywhere because they come
up from Florida, right yeah. A lot of palms come
in out of Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Yeah, And and I mean, you know, I mean it's
not even that cool you know nowadays too.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
I still like them because I still remember the dames.
But yeah, it's definitely not a rare psyche, not a
encephal artists or anything like.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
I have a tree also, I forget the name of
the tree, but it came up in one of my
Pomeria pots and I just let it grow and now
it's like twelve feet tall.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
You know that I don't know what I'm going to
do with this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I think I finally learned my lesson on that when
little little seedlings come up, just get them. You know.
You remember the the eucalyptus that was back by the
vegetable bed was we cut it down, oh after it
got to which kind of surprised me, because what do

(01:10:53):
you think that was a pretty big tree, right, yeah?
And why didn't you think that there'd be a lot
involved in cutting it down?

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I mentioned to my son and he said, let's go
cut it down now. Yeah, And I said, oh, well,
you know you can do it someday when you got
to let me. He said, no, I won't take that long.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
He got out his twenty foot pole pruner started cutting
from the top down and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Right five minutes later it's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
No, not too much, like a half an hour to
an hour, the whole tree was down. Yeah, So we
loaded it up in his trailer and brought it down
to He.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Cut each one like the same each piece, as.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
There were branches to the side that you had to
cut first, and he knew what he was doing. Yeah,
he knew how to bring it down, especially so it
didn't smash anything. Hey, I wanted to mention after Tanya
asked the question on the iceberg roses that if you
need to keep roses in check, a lot of roses

(01:11:57):
now are to the point where they need to be
dead headed, it's okay to go ahead and cut them
back more than just dead heading. You know, if you're
dead heading, you're cutting off what four to six inches.
But if you've got a branch that shot up and
say it's four feet tall, uh, and you want to
keep that rose in a certain area, you can kind
of back to two or three feet it'll be fine,

(01:12:19):
and you know, just put out get ready to bloom again.
Depends where you are, of course, Like if you're in
in a really hot area like inland palm springs, things
like that. Are areas like that you have Industry. That
name always got to the city of Industry just sounds.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Like commerce, isn't it next to commerce too? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
And Bellflower and Downy Well no, but.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
I mean industry and commerce.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Yeah, that's like those are places that seems so hot
and the last place you'd want.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
To live yeah, commerce, see if none, If you're in
a commerce you would love the industry.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
You would love to live in the city of That's
too busy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Just too many things going on, commerce, fast traffic, things happening.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
There's a lot of roses named city of Oh yeah,
is the city of New Orleans?

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Because every every city wanted a rose. I mean that
was a very popular thing back.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
In the day.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Day, back in the day exactly was to like, you know,
have a park and it's like, oh, this is the
city of Lakeside and you know, this is the road,
the Lakeside Rose.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
This is going to be our new bus term now
moving forward.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
You know, back in the day lake Yeah, what is
it lake still?

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Yeah, back in the day city. How about the city
of New Orleans, which is also a song. Obviously, I'm wondering,
if there's.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
A rose, there's got to be a New Orleans rose.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Isn't that a train?

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Yeah, but it's a song, Arlo Guthrie.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
You know, really cool for a New Orleans rose is
to have it be purple with yellow and like maybe
some orange or something thrown into it, like the what
was the one we were just saying sentimental how it
has that splotch. If you can make of rose it's
purple and then have yellow, and then if it could
have a little bit of like orange also into it,

(01:14:06):
that'd be a really neat New Orleans rose.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Or call it like jazz fest or something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
There is a Marty craw rose is there?

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Is it? Is it purple and yellow?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
No? Not, none of those colors.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
What color has it been?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
It's like reds And that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Makes zero sense. Why would it not be purple?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Back in my day it would have Yes, Right, Okay,
I think that's gonna do it. Guys, we gotta wrap
things up. We got about about thirty seconds to go here.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
So even gardening today, pulling weeds, it's easy when it rains,
it is really easy pulling weeds.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Rochelle wants to son. Props to you, Brian for having
a good show on a recovery. What's the phone problems?

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
What are you gonna do? I mean, we're gone two
weeks and people were in here messing around. It's just
the way things go at a radio station.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
But now next week are we going to be back
or we offer another two No, no.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
We're off for the next month. Then we come back
in July. No, I'm kidding, we're here, we have to be.
In fact, we're not going to leave the studio. So
get your food, get your suitcases, get your change of clothes.
We will be back next week. Enjoy the rest of
your weekend. Thank you for your patience putting up with us,
and again, enjoy the weekend. Have a safe weekend. I
guess we'll we convene back here next week here from
the iHeart Media and Entertainment World Domination Studio. All right,

(01:15:18):
from all of us here guard in America. Take care
and be safe. Catch you next week.

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